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Unlocked Patreon Episode: Katy Fishell Thinks She Can Disobey Bridger Behind the Paywall · I Said No Gifts! A comedy interview podcast with Bridger Winegar

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  Speaker 1: Hello, listener. It was supposed to be a repeat episode
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  Speaker 1: this week, and I said, no again, my heart is
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  Speaker 1: just so generous. Let's unlock a Patreon episode. So here
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  Speaker 1: is one for you to listen to. I absolutely love
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  Speaker 1: this episode, and don't forget. You can come to patreon
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  Speaker 1: dot com slash. I said, no gifts to get more
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  Speaker 1: content like this, here we go.
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  Speaker 2: Hell, I invited you here, gonna made myself perfectly clear,
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  Speaker 2: But you're a guest to my home. You gotta come
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  Speaker 2: to me empty And I said, no, guests, your presences
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  Speaker 2: presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how
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  Speaker 2: do you dare.
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  Speaker 3: To surbey me?
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Bridger Wineger. We're
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  Speaker 1: here in the backyard. We're here in Patreon world. You've
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  Speaker 1: made it over the paywall as usual. What's going on
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  Speaker 1: my life? I was gone for four days. I was
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  Speaker 1: in Utah. And the way things are falling apart, the
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  Speaker 1: way I'm falling behind, it's unreal. And what do I mean?
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  Speaker 1: What do I have to do? I have to watch
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  Speaker 1: the Little House on the Prairie. No one even expects
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  Speaker 1: me to do that, but it feels like I'm unraveling quickly.
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  Speaker 1: So that's kind of where I am. I what else
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  Speaker 1: is going on? Almost nothing. I had a lot of
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  Speaker 1: garlic last night, and I think that kind of brings
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  Speaker 1: us to today, which is exciting. I truly just adore
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  Speaker 1: today's guest. She's incredible. It's Katie Fisher.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me Bridger, Katie.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I couldn't think. There's a very short list
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  Speaker 1: of people I would rather. I mean that I've what
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  Speaker 1: am I trying to say here? You're in a short
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  Speaker 1: list of people that are like top priority.
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  Speaker 3: To be on this Come come on, you've stopped it.
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  Speaker 1: I've you're somebody, and I feel like you must have
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  Speaker 1: this experience with a lot of people where it just
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  Speaker 1: feels like I think we've known each other for maybe
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  Speaker 1: a year and a half, right, yeah, but it feels
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  Speaker 1: like you've just always been in my life.
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  Speaker 3: That is so kind, and I feel exactly the same
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  Speaker 3: way about you. I felt, you know, I felt like
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  Speaker 3: a little well you know, I think you give off
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  Speaker 3: a vibe I would have picked up if this was
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  Speaker 3: not the correct interpretation of our relationship. But the moment
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  Speaker 3: we met, I was like, Okay, I really like this person.
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  Speaker 3: And then every time I would see you at a party,
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  Speaker 3: which is like I feel like when we're most often
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  Speaker 3: getting into each other some sort of birthday thing, I
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  Speaker 3: immediately be lying to.
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  Speaker 1: You, Oh, you're such a safe harbor at a party.
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  Speaker 3: That is exactly how I feel, because I think we're
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  Speaker 3: the same in the sense that, well, you seem no
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  Speaker 3: offense overwhelmed parties.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's an enormous understanding. I'm like, I walk
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  Speaker 1: in the door and I'm like, already you turning back
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  Speaker 1: to my car. I've had enough, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And I guess now that I think about most times
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  Speaker 3: that we've talked at parties, it's you have your book
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  Speaker 3: bag and you're out, you are actively leaving, and then
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  Speaker 3: I sort of grab you from the debts and I
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  Speaker 3: pull you back into the vortex because I want to
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  Speaker 3: leave but I can yet, And then I make you
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  Speaker 3: talk to me for twenty minutes.
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  Speaker 1: You're kind of a cheat at parties for me then
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  Speaker 1: to extend it's like a free life or I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: here's someone I actually want to speak to, and I
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  Speaker 1: won't be exhausted talking to them, so it makes me
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  Speaker 1: seem like I'm at the party for a while.
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  Speaker 3: But we're actually like so on the far out, we're
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  Speaker 3: by the exit, right, but still one foot in the party,
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  Speaker 3: one foot out.
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  Speaker 1: When you say you can't leave the party, is that
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  Speaker 1: just because you have social grace?
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  Speaker 3: And I, well, no, I guess it's because more often
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  Speaker 3: than not I'm there with Luke.
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  Speaker 1: Sure is like mister talk right, He's I mean, such
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  Speaker 1: a He's another person who's so easy to talk.
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  Speaker 3: He's so wonderful. My boyfriend is a He's a professional talker.
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  Speaker 3: He also has a podcast. He also does like a
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  Speaker 3: live shows where he interview views people and whatever on Twitch.
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  Speaker 1: A wonderful Twitch show.
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  Speaker 3: Wonderful Twitch show. And so he has the gift of gab.
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  Speaker 3: And I would say I do as well, but not
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  Speaker 3: to the degree that he does, where I think that
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  Speaker 3: more often than not, I'm in my head right, you
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  Speaker 3: know what I mean, where I'm just sort of like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: am I talking too much? Am I?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 3: For example, literally yesterday I did a podcast. This is
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  Speaker 3: not normal for me, and I left freaking out feeling like,
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  Speaker 3: oh no, do I talk too much?
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  Speaker 1: But it's like it's a podcast, of course, that's the job,
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  Speaker 1: main job of the podcast.
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  Speaker 3: I did my job, but I was like, am I
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  Speaker 3: a monster? Did I monologue?
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  Speaker 1: I mean I've run into people on I won't say
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  Speaker 1: what podcasts, but on a podcast where I've thought, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that person person should stop talking.
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  Speaker 3: See that.
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  Speaker 1: I can't imagine you're that person. I hope not, but
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, our relationships are similar where Jim
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  Speaker 1: my boyfriend will he doesn't live in his head. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes I'm like maybe a little bit, I've been
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  Speaker 1: there and just think about what's going.
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  Speaker 3: Take a step in, Yeah, come on, let's close that
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  Speaker 3: door just a touch, right.
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  Speaker 1: But Luke has a slight and this is not a
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  Speaker 1: slight on him, but a party boys to him like
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  Speaker 1: to have a good time. Yes, So I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I'm so jealous of that. I know.
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  Speaker 3: And he has sort of like a he's not a jock,
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  Speaker 3: but the first time I met him, I thought that
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  Speaker 3: he was like a like a power alpha.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's like a sturdy guy.
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  Speaker 3: He's a sturdy guy. He's like barrel chested, and he
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  Speaker 3: has like a big booming voice that marries and he's
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  Speaker 3: very confident. And so you see that and you're like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: well that's like a.
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  Speaker 1: Guy who led a frat right on paper, someone I
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  Speaker 1: should not like exactly and I adore.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's like the biggest sweet pea in the
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  Speaker 3: entire world. Couldn't be more opposite, you know, like likes anime, etcetera.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I like is so not that guy.
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  Speaker 3: But at a party, he really cleans up. He really
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  Speaker 3: mops the floor at a party because he's just so easy.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that I, you know, also at a party. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I think part of the reason why we get along
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  Speaker 3: so well is like I think it's like, well.
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  Speaker 1: I excel one on one right, Yes, I mean that's
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  Speaker 1: why a party to me is a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a waste of time, yeah, because I'm like, well, I
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  Speaker 1: would rather just go out to dinner with every one
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  Speaker 1: of these people, no exactly.
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  Speaker 3: And instead it's like I feel like I'm in this
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  Speaker 3: like bit circus where you get like this like bit
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  Speaker 3: tornado where you keep running into people and you're like oh,
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  Speaker 3: and then it's like for fifteen seconds each you get
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  Speaker 3: kind of locked and and then everyone has the same
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  Speaker 3: sort of fear in their eyes because everyone's.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah everyone, and everyone has the same nerosi.
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  Speaker 3: You know, and it's like I feel like I'm in
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  Speaker 3: a conversation for five minutes. I say, I have to
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  Speaker 3: go to the bathroom. I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, the people think I have a uti
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  Speaker 1: or something like. Something is going on with this man's
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  Speaker 1: bless something is really he just told me he just
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  Speaker 1: had to go to the bathroom ten times over the
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  Speaker 1: last half hour.
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  Speaker 3: You guys have to start a GoFundMe. Richard's really unwell.
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  Speaker 1: He's destroying our toilets.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, it's flooding you guys. Yeah, well, I am
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  Speaker 3: so glad you feel that way. I feel the exact
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  Speaker 3: same way about you. What a delight that is, because
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  Speaker 3: sometimes you think that you have found that person and
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  Speaker 3: actually you're being a terrorist.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yes, And I mean I've felt that
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  Speaker 1: a way about you, Like I'm like, what if she's
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  Speaker 1: just like tolerating? Oh no, here he comes again. Not
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  Speaker 1: a single party. I can have any peace that wretched
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  Speaker 1: redheaded man keeps finding me.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, all I want to do is hanging out
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  Speaker 3: with my sweet boyfriend with his beautiful gift of gas.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to be in the throes of this party.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, m yeah, it's a yeah, what a what
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  Speaker 1: a blessed say? I'm so go ahead No, you go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: You're the guest I get to call. I called the
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  Speaker 1: shots on the guests. Okay, that's how social interactions were.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, okay, well I was. I got excited and I
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  Speaker 3: meant to, uh comment on your intro because you mentioned
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  Speaker 3: Little House on the Prairier.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wait, are you go ahead?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's not that I'm familiar in it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, what if I ended it there? So I had
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  Speaker 1: some thoughts on your intro, I'd have nothing to say
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  Speaker 1: about it.
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  Speaker 3: They interrupt you to say that, Okay, it's just that
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  Speaker 3: I you said you brought it up in the sense
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  Speaker 3: that did you mean that you you went to uha Utah?
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  Speaker 3: You haw? You went to Utah and then you said
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  Speaker 3: you weren't doing well and so you turned to Little
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  Speaker 3: House on the Prairie and the comfort.
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  Speaker 1: No, so what the cases we've I've been I've been
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  Speaker 1: watching Little House on the Prairie for the first time.
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  Speaker 1: Oh and I feel like since I started talking about
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: it on this podcast, a lot of listeners are like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm on season seven, episode fifty, and I'm like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: still halfway through season one. Wow, the slow the pace
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  Speaker 1: that we watched TV in this household is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: What do you say?
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  Speaker 1: What? Like? What?
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  Speaker 3: How often are you returning to something one a night? Okay,
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  Speaker 3: that's normal though, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: But I feel like I know a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: who are like, I've watched four in a row, and
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  Speaker 1: I just this show in particular is very slow. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and kind of nothing ever happens, and Jim is asleep
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  Speaker 1: about halfway through each show, so it takes forever. But
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  Speaker 1: in missing four days while being in Utah, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like now I've fallen behind on another thing. Yeah, absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: and it's that show obviously has ended in I think
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  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two, so I don't know that it matters that.
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  Speaker 3: Spoil over. Yeah, I've never watched a peep of it.
• 9:51
  Speaker 3: Do you Is it something that you like confidently recommend
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  Speaker 3: to people or is it kind of really it's.
• 9:56
  Speaker 1: It's so fascinating. It's so like innocent and sweet and
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  Speaker 1: low steaks in so many ways, sometimes a little too Christian.
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  Speaker 1: Sure it gets into some where it's like, oh this
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  Speaker 1: was on network TV, and they're like, totally, Laura is
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  Speaker 1: like climbing a mountain to talk to God.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so it's not just a little it's like.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of Yeah, there episodes where it's full like what
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  Speaker 1: is happening? Pretty heavy handed, and then she meets it
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  Speaker 1: like an angel on the top of the mountain who
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  Speaker 1: also looks like kind of just like a miner who
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  Speaker 1: lives it's sort of thing as a kid. If I
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  Speaker 1: had watched it, I'd be like, that's scary. That's to
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  Speaker 1: meet a strange man in the mountains.
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  Speaker 3: I thought you meant like a person under age.
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  Speaker 1: She meets a guy who can't drink or drive, but
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  Speaker 1: he's holy, he's very close to God.
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  Speaker 3: What would you rather see gun to your head? An
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  Speaker 3: underaged angel, Angel that has worked in the mines.
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  Speaker 1: Angel who's worked in the mines. You see an angel
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  Speaker 1: who's gotten his hands sturdy, Yeah, who's seen the tough times.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It isn't just you know, wings and a harp, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean angel? Yeah, an angel. I feel like we
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  Speaker 1: need a rougher brand of angels. I think that's really nice. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you want an angel with the experience, Yeah, a bit
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  Speaker 1: like a kid. Angel is going to be precocious, totally irritating.
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  Speaker 1: I guess like then we're wondering, like when did you die? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's tough, which is a tragic tough. Our angels, now
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  Speaker 1: this is a question and I probably should know the
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  Speaker 1: answer to this, but our angels former humans who died,
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  Speaker 1: or they their own breed of heavenly.
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  Speaker 3: Creature, like yeah, sort of like a like a unicorner
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  Speaker 3: like right.
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  Speaker 1: They never like we're never a person. They just like
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  Speaker 1: God created them as his own arm.
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  Speaker 3: I think it absolutely is a person that died, because
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  Speaker 3: then it's like, what are you talking about when you're
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  Speaker 3: like God gained another angel?
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's right, yeah, phrase yeah, okay, right.
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  Speaker 3: Unless it's like something yeah, because it's like what if
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  Speaker 3: it's what you proposed? It's like God gained another angel?
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  Speaker 3: Is like when someone happens to die here, something really
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  Speaker 3: freaky happens there where like a cloud starts like pulsating,
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  Speaker 3: and then like a hand starts sticking, and everyone starts screaming,
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  Speaker 3: and then you know, and then you know, and then
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  Speaker 3: it forms into a person. There's wings, they're screaming, and
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  Speaker 3: they're so wet. They're so wet, and it's good.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a bird coming out of an egg.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then God has to feed it the yeah yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: God it's costs throwing up in its mouth and then
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  Speaker 3: it eventually becomes a person, and then it gains the harp,
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  Speaker 3: and the harp represents how many times it's gotten thrown
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  Speaker 3: up in its mouth, like how much nutrients each string
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  Speaker 3: on the harp is how many times it's happened.
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  Speaker 1: Why are birds the only creature who throws up into
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  Speaker 1: the baby's mouth?
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  Speaker 3: Because it's like, what else.
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  Speaker 1: Are they gonna do? That's what every stret should do, regurgitation.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean humans should be doing that?
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  Speaker 3: Well, wait a second, wait a second, because I think
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  Speaker 3: that's actually untrue.
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  Speaker 1: I think, hold on, oh boy, here we go. I
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: have you know what. I was a child of animal planting,
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  Speaker 1: Miss Zoo encyclopes, little miss.
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: Little miss mammal coming in. I I do think that
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  Speaker 3: there are certain like I don't want to say coyote
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  Speaker 3: with full confidence, but I want to say, like a coyote,
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  Speaker 3: like interesting is bringing food back to their young and
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  Speaker 3: at least chewing it.
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  Speaker 1: Right, pre chewing, pre chewing kind of like a parent,
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  Speaker 1: like cutting up the hot dog on a plate.
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  Speaker 3: One hundred percent doing sort of like a beanie weenie. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I do think that, Like, yeah, I think it's like
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  Speaker 3: maybe a raccoon situation or like, I think that is
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  Speaker 3: that is part of it.
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  Speaker 1: I can see a raccoon like ripping up bread.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, making like a panzanella.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not into a panzanella me neither. I'm kind of
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: like I wish it was just bread, and I wish
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  Speaker 3: it was just selling.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the two. It's like, well, we've just ruined
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  Speaker 1: both of these things in such an incredible way.
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  Speaker 3: I completely agree. And I also feel like every time
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  Speaker 3: I see it, I'm like, I can feel what it's
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  Speaker 3: going to be like putting you know where. It's like
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  Speaker 3: I can feel my mouth being ripped to sheds by
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: the toasted bread points, you know what I mean. Trying
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  Speaker 3: to have a conversation.
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  Speaker 1: It makes no sense.
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: I can't handle it. What's your favorite salad?
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: My favorite salad? Cob?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? You didn't hesitate?
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: Oh? I love a cob set. Have you had a
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: Clark Street diner?
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  Speaker 3: Not in a long time?
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: It they're cob salad. I could eat that three meals
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  Speaker 1: a day, Oh my god. Although it takes like four hours.
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  Speaker 1: I call it the four hour salad because it's just
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: your working through it takes. And this is a secret,
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: this is something I've learned recently a great power move
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  Speaker 1: at any dining situation, if you order the salad, you
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: are now in control of the speed of the meal.
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  Speaker 1: That's so real because the other person, if they didn't
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  Speaker 1: get a salad, they'll be done a tenth of the
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  Speaker 1: way through your salad.
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  Speaker 3: Sandwich is like ten bytes.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, salad is minimum three hundred and fifty bytes.
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  Speaker 3: I completely agree. Also, like what's what's going on? Like
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: what's the fork keft?
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 3: Are you doing like a dainty pee here and there?
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  Speaker 3: Like a chickpea stab here and there? Yeah? I completely agree.
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: You know who has a fantastic socept that I've been
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: really obsessed with recently. I found it and I said,
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: I'm never letting this go.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Jata on uh oh on York York.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: The chicken kale salad. Can I break it down?
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Please? I would love to know because I have questions.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: I have a whole Jata discussion to have after this.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely Okay, it's like a you know, shredded massaged kale.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not yet dry.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's like yeah yeah, but it's like
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  Speaker 3: it's like it.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Does have to massage, you have to massage.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: I'm just doing this until this is.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: My big complain about sweet Green. I don't think they
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  Speaker 1: massage their kale. And then it feels like you're eating
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: just like roughie.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. So this is like not that they've
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: done it right. Really nice moist grilled chicken that's sliced,
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: which I.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Always am like, that's a tough thing to do, Oh
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: my god, because if when you slice it up, clock
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: is sticking yep, and.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: It's it's they don't mess around. It's really nicely charred,
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: really nicely seasoned, really okay. And then you've got something
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: that I forget is so wonderful in a salad, but
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: deeply toasted.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Pine nuts, Oh fantastic. Oh my god, such an easy addition.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Easy and you're like, this feels so like special all
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: of a sudden.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: And easy to distribute through a salad.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: No, exactly, it's so great. It's like, yeah, it doesn't
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: like become like one horrible right right. Yeah. And then
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: it's just like really good cheese like I think, you know,
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: like a palm or whatever, and everything's like really beautifully
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: coated in the palm. And then they have I'm forgetting
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: some stuff. I assume there's like chickpea. Oh there's a
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: lot of like avocado.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Ok, this is my dream salad and that's what I'm saying.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: And then I'm almost done. The dressing is like a
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: gorgeous like lemony sort of cheese, oh vinaigrette.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: That I might get this for dinner.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: It's so great. If you do, please let me know.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: I will because I've been to John and for the listener,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Uh who's not based in Los Angeles? Again, Wait, but
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Katie did give you all the ingredients to make the salad. Yes,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: so stop complaining and get making. So you know what?
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Shut up?
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Toss it up, baby baby? What was I? Oh, I've
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: been to Jatta is spelled gg I t A, which
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: is mildly confusing. I'm not quite sure how that works.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: G G I A t A Okay what did I say?
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: I T A Oh I A t A yeah, okay, yeah,
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: What is that?
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: What is I don't know what the yeah, I don't
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: know what the double G is.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I could have done without. I don't know that
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: anyone needed. Yeah, but it's a little sandwich salad place.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: But I've only ever this is my fault ordered raps.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: But because and I will defend myself. The first one
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: I had sounded incredible, and I've had so a real
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: success with a buffalo chicken wrap in other place. Oh right, Yeah,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: it's almost always a surefire hit.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: Totally not a jotna. That doesn't surprise me.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Then I had a Caesar wrap Chicken Caesar wrap. Again,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I feel like you can order that at a theme
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: park and have a good version of totally didn't work. Really,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: I feel like they underdressed it. I think with a
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: wrap you really need to just dump as much dressing
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: as the pole.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: It's really not about anything other.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Than no, it should be essentially a burrito in like
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: moisture left you need the foil to catch, yes, absolutely,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: it should be getting soggy while eating, yeah, absolutely so.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: But now the salad is basically that without the dry tortilla. Totally,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: so that will be my next move there.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: You gotta do the salad. The sandwich is really good,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: but it is kind of a nightmare right where it's like,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: I'm not really a giant sandwich in the middle of
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: the day.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: No, that's a dinner.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: That's a dinner, and I like, I totally agree. I
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: did it the other day to like to like fit in.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Our peer pressured.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: It was fear pressured into a big, delicious sandwich where
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: I was just like working with a bunch of people
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: and we all went to Bubb and Grandma's on others songs.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Oh I had their meat loaft sandwich the other day.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, that thing is nine pounds and I
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: ate the entire thing.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Delicious, It's so fabulous.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: I had the brisket for the first time.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Oh with the apples.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: I hadn't, and I'd been, I'd been, I'd been avoiding it.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: It's like, this seems like a big mess, and it is.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: It's sort of a big, horrible mess, and it's and
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: it's sort of a big mess on the tummy, it's
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: a big mess on the plate, in the hands. But again,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: I was like with a bunch of fellas working and
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: they were like, let's go to Bulbs. And then I
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I guess I'll get a big sandwich.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: And it truly was like in the middle of eating,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: it's like it was so wonderful, but it was.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Like it's noon, so yeah, but they're not open for dinner.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Guess what, well, they're open Sundays and Mondays. Have you
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: been No, I'm dying to go.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: It's we have to go. It's so good.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: I looked at like dreamt about this menu, the chicken dish. Oh,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: oh my god. We have to stop because listener, you
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: should make a trip to Los Angeles. We're doing the
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: live show August twenty second. You can go to both
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: of these restaurants. What are we talking about? Book the flight,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: the flight, but you.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Have to make sure the live show is on a
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Sunday or Monday.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Well, it's on a Friday, so they have to do
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: a Friday through Sunday or Friday through. You can do
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: a weekend, perfect weekend trip. That's really well, say boss,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be here Monday. I gotta take
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: a long weekend.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: You know, I gotta get that Bubbs dinner chicken And
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: the boss says what and then you repeat it again
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: and then you get fired.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Lose your job. The Econnery is the all time peak.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: We're all having an incredible talk comedy. What could go wrong?
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Go wrong? Really? Nice?
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Wow? We do need to go there for dinner.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: We have to, and I think that that should happen soon.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I took a long break from bub and Grandma's, and sure,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: we'll keep talking about it because they opened, I think
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: in twenty one, and I had a whole conspiracy theory
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: about this place because we are in kind of a
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: rapidly gentrifying area of Los Angeles, and they they opened
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: next to a restaurant that had been protested. Yeah, done more,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: it dones more. And so they opened shortly after. And
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: my conspiracy theory was, We're going to open with lower
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: prices as to avoid people freaking out, because it was
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: very reasonable. They did that, and then not that long
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: after just a few months, the prices ticked up. But
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I still think it's in comparison to rest of LA.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: And now that I've gone back recently, I'm like, oh, actually,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: it is kind of For the quality of food, it's
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: fairly affordable.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: It's so sad to reckon with that because I completely
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: agree with you, but it's like, there are so many
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: times where I'm like over the moon, thrilled that I've
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: paid twenty five dollars for a normal sandwich with all
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: ingredients that cost forty cents and it doesn't make me
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: sick or taste like shit, And I'm like, you know what,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: that's a great deal.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: What a bark.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: It is just like, oh, I've been brainwashed, and it's
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: just like there's so many times where I've gone out
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: in this god forsake in town. I love living here
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: or whatever, but it's like and I've just paid just
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: an absurd for food. That's like, well, I just simply
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: could have made this at home.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the price is there's an I'm not going
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: to name. There's another sandwich restaurant here that I won't
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: even call out. I think I have on this restaurant
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: on this podcast before that I think was ground zero
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: for sandwich prices just doubling overnight, and I think I
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. Does it start with a W?
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, and great sandwiches, but
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: again not that great. Sorry not to turn a whole
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: the sitting into a culture of twenty five dollars sandwiches.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: It's too much. And it's also like the whole like, okay,
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna pivot a little bit. We'll see
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: so bub and Grahama's everything. What's your thought on a
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: smash burger?
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Oh enough, yes, I agree. I think it's a delicious
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: tasting thing totally. But now there used to be a
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: restaurant in LA called gold State. Yea Golden State on Fairfax,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: not a smash burger, probably the best hamburger I've ever eaten, whoa.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: And they were hanging in there until the pandemic that
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: then that shut them down. Then they opened up. They
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: also own a coffee shop next door called Kofax. Oh yeah,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: and they started selling hamburgers out of that and it
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: was like a miracle because every other hamburger in LA
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: is now a smash Burger. So we would drive to
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: West Hollywood probably every other week at least, just to
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: get a hamburger there. And now that's closed.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Well have you been to Castles?
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Now this is a whole other conversation I don't have
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: with you because I call it Casselles. And now which
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: of us is right?
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Well, so I think I actually started. I started out
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: in my Castle's Journey the Cells, but then I got
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: nervous because then I was like, am I like adding
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: like a fanciness to this that, like it's a hamburger place, right?
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: But then I but I don't know, I don't know
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: the answer.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: If I had my phone nearby. I would call them
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Yes, how do you say it? And they're like, don't
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: call here.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: This is what my method would be. The answer, say
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: the name, and I would hang up on them.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: That's genius. That's like, that's a better thing than what
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: I said.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Because if I'm more, if I'm wondering if a business
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: is open for the day, I won't call and ask
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: what their hours are. I'll call and hang up on them.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, they answered the phone, certainly they're open.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: That's free because I don't want to say are you open,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: because then I don't want My fear is I'll be like,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: what do you think.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: You're gonna be met with like a exactly like yeah,
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: that's a really you're kind of like doing like a
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: sort of a prank.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Call, which is probably more. I bet the employee is
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: thrilled that they don't have to answer any questions.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: But you bring up Castle's Casselle and tell me why.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: I think it's really delicious.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Best absolute best patty melt I've ever had.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: It's so psycho, it's so good.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: It's what you get there.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Well, and my orders changed. So I used to live
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: in Koreatown, and I was there in Koreatown during the
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: pandemic and Castle Slash Casseels was like a every once
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: in a while treat to go that because I did
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: like a carry out window during the oh yeah, and
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: it was like, you know, at fifteen minute walk from
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: my place, and it felt like such a special treat
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: because also the way it's like very kind of like
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: it's like a it's like an everyman sugarfish way they
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: do the carry out because it's like, you know, a
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: big cardboard box. It's like very handsome, like the stamp
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: of like the logo stamped on it, right, and then
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: it's like a checkered wax paper.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, I love that paper.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: And it's like so you just feel like taken care of,
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: you know. So I used to do like a like
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: a run of the mill like cheeseburger with with everything right,
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: you know. I think aesthetically, it's like give me the
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: onion ring, give me the likeliness.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: I love.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Like the the fry there, I think is really excellent
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: French fry.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: It's like they're not doing them right. Oh they are.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Nobody else.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Nobody else is doing it.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Every other manager in the city should go try at
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Cassel's Castle's French fry.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: It's so it's so spot on. And then I would
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: get they used to have and I think maybe maybe
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: it's like a rotating special thing, but they used to
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: have a tamer and soda.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Oh that sounds incredible.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: It was just like.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Unreal, oh, really really really great stuff. So I just
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: sort of did like a classic meal with a little.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Thun drink right right.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: But then I then I started to play around because
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: I think it was like you know, COVID lockdown brain,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: where I was like, if I get this and it's
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: not perfect, I'm gonna lose enough time. So I found
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: the thing that worked, and I was like, well, I can't.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: But then once everything was normal and I felt normal
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: and stable, I started getting patty.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Melts, the patty melts with the crispy cheese on the outside.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: I've ever seen something like this before. It's really wonderful
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: stuff they've got Secretly the Denver Omelet's very good.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: That's fascinating, very.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Good fried chicken sandwich. They're so good. What a great place.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: It's underrated.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: It's really underrated.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: There's one in there. I know. I will say. The
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: service is a little crazy.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little bit bananas.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: I feel like they have a new employee every single
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: time we're there who's just learning what's going on.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: They don't know what's happening.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: But the food's always good. How are you having your
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: hamburger cooked medium rare? Me too? Wow? Come on, just
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: two souls connected hearing.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: I'm so glad that you feel the same way about
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: smash burgers. I think enough is enough. I don't care
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: about them. No, did you go there's like that new
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: one that opened on eel Rock Boulevard that I live
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: in Eagle Rock and nobody cares. But it's like it's
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: a neighborhood and there's.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: One that get your map out, start circling things.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Oh sorry, but there's one that opened next to my
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: house that like everyone in my neighborhood was like freaking
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: out about. And I was like, you know, it was
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: caught in four conversations in a week where it's like,
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: oh my god, have you been to this place? And
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: I went with Luke and it was like, dude, this
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: is just whatever it's what is it called?
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Can you name it?
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I was suspicious that this was a smash burger place,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: and I'm just not going to do it.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: It's gross. I mean, it's not even gross, it's fine,
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: but it's like, you know what, I want my hamburger
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: to have meat.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, sorry, I wanted to endanger my heart. Yes, I uh.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: And that place, like the idea of it seems very
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: nice and I would love to, but it's like, come on,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: you're what, it's such a fad. It's that we had
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: moved past that.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: I agree. It feels very like like twenty twelve food
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: culture right to right, you know where it's just like
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden when everyone was like putting like
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: bacon on the doughnuts, you know what I mean. And
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: it's like very like we're taking smash burgers and actually
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: that's the old and it's like, you know, I wish
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: that that wasn't the case.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Do you know what? There's another restaurant and I will
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: name this place Burger Lords. Oh.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: I haven't been actually this place.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Speaking of gentrification, it feels like they're trying to gentrify
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: a gentrified neighborhood. That's so because they use because it's
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: to the uh the place which I can't remember, the
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: lodge it's called lodge room. Yeah, this place used to
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: be run by other people. They sold it to these
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: new people and and it used to be good. Whoa
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: they sold it to them. They stripped the menu to
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: nothing but their one smash burger and it's literally twenty
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: five dollars, and it's kind of like, deal with it.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: That's the attitude of the place. I don't leave negative
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: reviews for restaurants that often, but you get the people
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: are burning them down.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's so awesome, as they should. I
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: think that's like so offensive.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's so it's cruel. Let's just say it. It's cruel, cruel.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: If you were to open a restaurant, what would you serve?
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's a great question. I think I would probably do. Oh,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I can't open a Mexican restaurant. I feel like that
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: becomes problematic pretty quickly. Although I eat so many burritos.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: You could have a text Mex Text Mex. I probably
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: do you know what I would do? Breakfast burritos, breakfast
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: burritos and tacos, because there's another local chain that I
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: think is slipping. Huh, breakfast Tacos totally they're expanding too quickly.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Oh I know, yes, yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's not great.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: It's not great. It used to be really good.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: It's too salty now, way too salty.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: And frequently wet.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: And it's just like that's an easy thing to make. Yeah.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like this isn't rocket science.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, so it'd probably be that. But
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I have honestly thought about opening a cookie bakery, like
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: if I had.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: To open You're mister Cookie, I'm Cookie. You're your doctor Cookie. Yeah,
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: the doctor is in the prognosis is cookie. The last
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: time I was here, I to meet your sweet, perfect,
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: wonderful puff.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: We should have her on the podcast.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: You said you mentioned it in my heart skipped to
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: beat and I wasn't gonna say anything, But now that
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: you mention it again, I really hope she comes down.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Should we? Uh? I want to find out what you
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: would open? Do you need a minute to think about
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: as far as a restaurant or should we cover this
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: and then bring Bonnie.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Out for I think I know?
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Okay? What is it?
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Fried baloney sandwiches?
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Oh I've never had one?
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Wow? Wow? What h what goes into this?
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: Okay? So it's I mean, so I'm from the South, right,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: I grew up partially with this woman who lived in
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: deep South Tennessee and Pegram and she would make us
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: fried baloney sandwiches all the time. Rip Judy. She recently passed.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: She was awesome. She was really, really great. But it's
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: just like she would get bologne. Did you know bloney
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: came on a log.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: That's one of the unfortunate things about a balooney. It's
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: just like, I wish that this was just slices or something.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: I don't need to know anything else about this meat.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: I didn't know. I mean, it's like now you go
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: to a deli and you're like, oh, for sure. At
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: the time when I was a child, I was like,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: what is that? And then she would bring it up
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: from their freezer and like what you know, like on
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: her counter, but she would thick slice like two and
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: a half inch. Oh, that's the thick thick Baloney's I've
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: never had a thick that's the trick. That's really wonderful.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: And then you take that you put that in a pan.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Right, I don't think you.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Really need butter oil. You know, it's right, it's got
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: enough of that in there, It's got whatever is in
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: there is seep and out and it'll fry and it's
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: it's sort of excretions and you give it a nice
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: year and then you know, I think ideally, Actually it
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: was really sweet when when Judy passed away, I had
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: my brother come over to my house and we made
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: all of the foods that were like, oh, that's so sweet.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: We watched Angel on the Outfield, which was like the
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: movie that we would watch at our house, and we
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: made biscuits and apple butter. We made fried baloney sandwiches
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: and we like even tracked down like the apple butter
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: that was oh wow, like found it online and it's
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: like you know, spoiler, it's like cheap, normal apple, but
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: very specific. But anyway, so it's like big thick baloney, seared, seared, seared,
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: and then you get good bread like I think ideally
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: either you know, not like a potato bread because it's
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: kind of too mush, but like as much as I
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: love that, but maybe something with a little bit of no,
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna go back potato bread. Get
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: a potato bread, and then you get a crisp, good
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: butter lettuce, a nice thick cut, good quality tomato, good
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: thick mayonnaise. Either side of the bread and cheese optional.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: I don't like it with cheese. But it's just like
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: a It's almost like you're doing.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: A Blteah, it's like a hardy blt exactly. And I
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: was just I can't remember who I was complaining too
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: recently that a belt really never feels like a sandwich
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: to me, Like this is so this corrects that, right,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: It's more like because we're closing in on Hamburger territory,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: but with bacon flavor.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: Almost it's really nice.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Wow, that feels like a business that could happen.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: I think it could happen, and I wouldn't be a
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be like and that's actually all we have,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: you know. I wouldn't be like you know, it would
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: be it'd be sixty cents and then it would be
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: on a menu full of like Yeah, I would do biscuits.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: I would do sort of like an egg sandwich. I
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: would do like a nice like cucumber vinegar salad. Oh,
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: everything's really cheap, you know. I do like a pickle situation.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: This sounds incredible. This to me, I frequently feel like
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I eat like a I like detective food. What do
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: you mean food like that you just ordered a diner
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: that you could have with the coffee.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: But that's really nice. I like, you have to do
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: a lot of research to say what's in it.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I'm looking into every ingredient to make sure that it's
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: clean eating.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: You're terrorizing everywhere. That is I totally feel you. So
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: you're saying, like a slice of pie a nice like yeah,
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: non no nonsense, sandwich.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah. I remember when I was eating or
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: when I was working at Kimmy Schmidt. I remember they
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: had a birthday cake come in and I had a
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: slice and I had it with a cup of black
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: coffee and my boss said, what are you a traveling salesman?
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: And I thought, kind of, that's kind of my diet.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: It's really nice. It's so like wonderful. We like when
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: when when we have you know, like if there's like
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: a holiday or we have a party. Oh my god,
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: somebody brought we we had a Fourth of July thing
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: that hmm I did.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Huh, Katie, I actually want to apologize someone I was
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: so looking forward to coming to this.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: Interesting someone didn't show up to even though RSVPD yes
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: on the party for and then oh and behold, I
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: wake up this morning. I say, what a wonderful time
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: to just stretch and enjoy my morning. Came emergency text
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: from Bridger. Can you do a big favorite? Can you
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: be a guest on the pod?
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Is that interesting? Is the second? But I throw a
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: wonderful party and you're nowhere to be seen. That's okay,
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: that's totally fine.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: But anyway, I was actually I not only was I
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: planning to come, I was telling people I'm going to Katie's.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: What the next day I was going to Utah seven am?
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's why.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: And I had an early Fourth of July party that
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I went to at noon. Yeah, And I kept telling Jim,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I'm going to Katy's. I'm going to Katy's or you
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: can't do two parties like find Jim, you don't have
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: to come, I'm going to Katie's. The wall of fatigue
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: that hit me. Yeah, I was like, and I'm telling you,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: there are so many parties that I'm happy to just
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: not go to totally. This was one that was a
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: true moral dilemma for me where I almost texted you,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: but then I was like, she doesn't want to hear,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: she does not care.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Well, it's not that I was like, well, I'm not
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: to lay it on thick. It's like I would have
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: loved to see you. It wasn't that I was like
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: crushed that you weren't there. I totally get it. Like
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: I'm if there's someone who's at a different party, it's Bridger.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: It's like, I'm sure that you're You're mister party truly,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: not you're doctor Cookie, You're mister Well okay, you don't
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: like parties, but you're at them.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I'm adam, you're at them just a nice reluctantly there. Yeah,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: but this is a party that I would not have
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: been reluctantly there.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: That's nice.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: But literally, I don't know what happened to me.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: It was hot.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I think it was the heat. I think just being
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: on the heat for like the forty five minutes I was.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: The other event was just like sun sickness.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: It was really tough because ours started at three and
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: then people came uh at like three on the dot
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: actually and then like it didn't it wasn't tolerable to
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: be outside until about five, and it was really tough
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: and just like muscling through conversation and like Luke was on,
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: I mean Luke came alive on the grill.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Sure, of course, I.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Mean I will. I will say, not to make you
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: feel bad, not to rub it in, but you did
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: miss Piggy and her big shirt.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: I know, just read that. I wanted to see the
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: big shirt my doggy.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Piggy has a shirt and it is a Hawaiian shirt,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: and she does look terrific and it fits her like
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: a glove and she really becomes sort of a different
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: kind of doggie in the sense that she's like slightly
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: more gross.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Well, it's a power shirt.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: It's a power shirt. She really becomes like a wretched guy. Yeah,
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: it's sort of like a guy you set a bowling
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: alley who's been overserved. Yeah. Absolutely, But what was I
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: gonna say?
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: We were talking about the fourth of July party, me
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: not attending.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Right, I was, I was. I was trying to make
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: you sure shirt, Piggy shirt. You know what, I don't
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: think it matters, doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Go think about it. I'll go get Bonnie and you
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: think about maybe try to remember.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Okay, Oh my gosh, oh my goodness, is that the
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: most wonderful puppy that's ever Oh?
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: You a little nervous Bonnie is a little nervous. She's
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: never been on a podcast before.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: He can we can sniff. You can sniff the shoes,
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: you can sniff.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, figure, Oh my goodness, Bonnie's a little shy
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: on Mike, let me see. Could you want to get
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: up here so you can be on the camera.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, she is the most precious angel. Yes, that is terrific.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Bonnie's appearing on camera for the first time.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Wow, this is the first Bonnie.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the first Bonnie on the podcast.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: I am so honored to be part of this moment.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: How do you feel holding a microphone and Bonnie?
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: It's perfect, It's so natural, so natural. Okay, Bonnie, I
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: think you just need to use the bathroom. Then we'll
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: go back.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Well goodbye. You're an angel and you're perfect
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: and never change. High sweet bean. Oh my goodness, you
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: have such a wonderful smile. I'm gonna cry. What a
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: perfect puppy. Have you guys ever seen a puppy so wonderful? O? God,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: I love dogs. That was so wonderful.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, for the listener, if you're just listening, just imagine
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: the perfect angel of the world sitting on my lap
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: for a minute.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: Do you think any of that's gonna make it in?
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Oh? Absolutely, some of that. Connor do as what you
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: need as far as editing and cutting that. But we
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: should have some Bonnie on camera.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: You gotta have Bonnie on cam. She's so fabulous. I really,
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: just while you were gone, I was talking about how
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: like a wave of calm washed over after witnessing her.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: She's so cute.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: She is a perfect woman. Oh and you brought her
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: a lovely little gift. I did an elephant dressed like
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: a ballerina.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Actually it was a hippo.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hippo. Actually, my apologies to the hippo community.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: So yeah, did she chew it?
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course she went crazy for Oh that's
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: so good. Funny because every toy like that she chews up.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: But she has one bowl that's in her crate with
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: her that is just her roommate. She doesn't rip it apart.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: She just sleeps.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: That's so nice. You have a special friend. Can I
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: bring up something that's kind of crazy?
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: I was while you were gone. The first time. I
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: sort of whispered this to camera, and then I was like,
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm going to bring this up,
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: but then I am, and I'm just gonna see where
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: it goes. And part of this you already know, and
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: then there's another part that you don't know. And I
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: really want to preface this by saying I mean this
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: as no. I hope to God this doesn't make you
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: feel weird or bad in any way. This this ends
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: in tears. I'm never welcome back. I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: come out with a gun. Okay, So I sent you
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: a mess a while ago saying that your podcast made
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: my sleep rotation. Yes, yes, And I for the listener,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: I've had like trouble sleeping for a very long time,
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: like ten years ago. I started listening to podcasts just
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: to like wind down at night. And I have sort
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: of like a queue, like an eight hour cue Oh
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: my God, all night because I'll routine up and uh
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: and then I just need to like drift back off
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: right whatever. And I was like, had been searching a
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: lot for cause it was tough as I listened to
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: a lot of comedy podcasts, I listened to a lot
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: of like research podcasts, but I needed something that was
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: like something that holds my attention enough that it will
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: take my mind off of whatever I'm like kind of
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: spinning out about. But then also not something like so gripping,
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: like we're doing like a four part series about this
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: really crazy you know what I mean, like where did
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: she end up? Where exactly? Welcome back to where'd she
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: go exactly? And this is the final light that you
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: learned where she went exactly? So I couldn't do that.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: And also with comedy podcasts, it's tough because it's like
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: it was a really delightful What I'm getting to is
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: that yours is so perfect because you have a the
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: most perfect voice in the world. Oh that's very sweet
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: and b it's like it's it's it's so soothing and
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: so fun and so lightheart. Anyway, so I was it
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: was on rotation. It was just it was heavy in
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: the rotation for for months and months, and I would
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: just cueue up. I said, no gifts and it was
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: so great, and then something really crazy happened?
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: What and I haven't brought this up to Oh I cannot.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: You told. I woke up and in like half of
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: a dream stain and I had to go back and
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: find it to make sure I wasn't like hallucinating. But
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: on the podcast, you told a story from my life
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: that happened to me and Anna about.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, of course, oh my lord.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: And it's like a really crazy story and it was
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: really insane to basically, my friend and I were at
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: a sauna and a woman passed away and.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: The most devastating thing I've ever heard.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: It was really crazy and in a lot of ways
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: and so sad, and like, you know what, I'm gonna,
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: fucking I'm gonna this is We're departing from what I
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: just said all to say that it was the most
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: wild experience of my life. Because I was sleeping and
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: I was like.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, because I'm a podcast, imagine.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: Sometimes it makes its way into my dream, right, And
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: then all of a sudden I was confronted with this like, well,
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: here's someone else saying something that is like that feels familiar.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: Oh no, that happened? Did that happen to me? And
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: then it's sort of this nightmare situation anyway, so that
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: I'm and I like, and then I was like Charlie Coughlin, yeah,
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: And I was like, unfortunately, I don't think listen any
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: not that I'm like, you're always bringing me up. But
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: it was just like, oh, it was so crazy.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Imagine.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really like I was in a different
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: orbit basically what happened? Should I tell you? Yeah?
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: I would love because I didn't have all the details
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: and I've always been so curious.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Okay, this is crazy, this was awful. Okay. So me
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: and Anna and Luke went to on a beautiful Monday
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: night just to unwine. And then we're there from like
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: eight pm to ten pm or something. We're coming out
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: and Luke's already in the waiting room waiting for us
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: to leave, and then we're checking out and there's a
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: woman with like a face mask on and whatever who
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: like clearly is like a patron of the sauna, who
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: is in the middle of begging the front staff for help.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Uh huh.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: And we so we walk in and it's like, please,
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: please do something, Please you have to do something, please help,
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: please help. We look at the staff. They are not
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: looking at her. WHOA, They are not reacting to her. WHOA.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: The only thing that we see is them. Eventually, they're like,
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: we'll get to it. And then and then we're like
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: we kind of ignore it for a second because we're like,
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: maybe it's maybe she's like nuts, She's like, my sauna
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: smells bad. But then she turns to us and she
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: was like, please, you have to help me. There's someone
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: who isn't moving in the sauna. Please help, please help,
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: And then we like look at each other and then
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: we look at the people the again, the staff aren't
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: doing anything, so weird, it's crazy, and so then we
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: go back. She she pulls us back into the sauna
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: and there was a woman who was in there who
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: had passed away, and we uh, like we took her
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: pulse and you know, like she had been clearly like
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: had been. What was really awful was that we had
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: seen her. I mean, the whole thing was awful, but
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: we had seen her alive. Oh when we were in
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: the summer, Yeah, and like she was just you know, great,
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: and she was just hanging out and having a nice time,
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: like chilling. She had a little caddy and right, you know,
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: it was like clearly like a like a veteran, right,
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: a goer and uh and so okay, so if that's
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: not bad enough, so we're we're there. We have like
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: taken the pulse of this woman. And this is also
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: after like slowly approaching her like ten minutes has gone
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: by between us like confirming that this woman has passed,
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: and like when we were in the front lobby and
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: this woman was screaming for help right right, So there's
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: a lot of time here. After we confirm that she's passed.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: One employee walks back slowly huh and sort of warily right,
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: and I and another patron because there's like six women
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: look at her and we're like, call nine one one
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: right now. And then we watch her turn around and
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: walk out. Who we're not running, we're not even jogging
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: what She comes back three times and we and we
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: say in English and in Spanish, you need to call
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: nine one one right now. So it's like there's no
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: way that there was any confusion. And then basically oh
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: and then, uh, what else happened? So then we're they
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: eventually call nine one one. It took too long, I
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: would say. And then meanwhile, no one from the staff
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: has done anything to even put up a partition to
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: put up to take control of the situation, because there's
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: other people in this Yeah, of course, so there's women
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: that are coming out of like just getting massages or
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: whatever the sauna that this woman is in. This body.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: So me and Anna are and these other women have
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: taken it upon ourselves to like notify everyone else in
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: the changing room in the sauna. We're blocking off the area.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: We are telling women like, hey, there's gonna be like
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: firemen and policemen that are coming back here in probably
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: twenty minutes. Everyone needs everyone's naked. So we're like, you
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: need to change the criers. And so we just like
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: completely took control.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: You're now managing the spa, managing.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: The spa, and so, you know, so all of that happens.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: We're back there. You know, it's probably forty minutes or whatever.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: We talked to the fire department, we talked to the
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: police for a little bit. We finally leave. It's like
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: also hitting us that, like we have discovered a body
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: and it's horrible and what a terrible sad thing this is.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: So now, like that sort of trauma is like setting
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: up and we're starting to like cry and shake and
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: leaving the sauna. And guess what happens when we try
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: to leave. They say that'll be forty dollars.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: This to me was the biggest, the biggest error of all.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: They'll say that'll be forty dollars.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Unbelievable. I say, what what.
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: Sorry, what what is that? It's forty dollars? Do you
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: mean you're gonna give me forty dollars? What do you mean?
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: And then the guy was so disrespectful, and I was like,
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: I was like, we just we just saw a body.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: Like we were so shell shot, of course that I
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: didn't even have it in me to because normally I like, yeah,
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: you'd be like well no, I'll be like you fuck you.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: But I was so we were so out of it,
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: and I was like, there's a body that we just
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: saw a body, and he was like, yeah, it'll be
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: forty dollars, was so cold, didn't ask if we were okay,
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: didn't check up, We pay for it. We leave, and
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: then Luke has been in the lobby the entire time,
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: and then we we check in with him. He's like
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: the woman who was initially asking for help was out
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: there for.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: A while, who knows how long?
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: Who knows.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: So then so then we leave.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: This is a this is sort of a saga. It's okay,
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: oh yeah, of course, okay, okay. So then afterwards we're
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: so shaken up, and it's like one of those things
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: that's like so traumatic. But then you started to think
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: about it and you're like, wait, no, that's completely insane, right,
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: what an outrageous thing that no one took control, no
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: one seemed to care. All of it felt very disrespectful
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: to both the person who passed and also all of
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: the other patrons, where you're just not there's no protocol
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: for this. So then we leave, So we leave a
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: Google review. So I step, I put on my combat
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: boots and I put on my bereat, and I take
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: to the computer. And well, so me and Luke actually
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: we we we leave Google reviews and.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: And did you like lay out the situation in the reviews?
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: Kind of? I kind of wanted to be sort of
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: respectful because it's like, this is like a person who passed,
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: but then also, you know, but also fuck this place,
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: you know. Luke was actually more oh yeah, no, no,
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: So I think the three of us did. Within minutes,
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: we all get really threatening, like legal threatening nails that
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: are really long, right, that are very clearly like they
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: are trying to intimidate us into silence. And they used
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: like vague legal jargon that had no like I'm not
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: a lawyer, I'm a cartoonist. I don't know nothing about Nathan,
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: but I looked at it and I was like, that
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: doesn't make sense because they said something about like you
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: are utilizing anti slap something something slapp right, which is
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: something that means I think anti slap law is applied
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: to like it doesn't even matter. It's not applicable to
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: the situation at all. Okay, okay, it's something that happens
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: after a lawsuit, like you can not candor someone if
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: they have proven that you are right. Right, if you
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: said I have a tentacle leg and I took you
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: to court and I said, no, I don't, here's proof, and.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: They could no longer keep saying yes, that's my anti slap.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Well I think okay.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: Anyway, so it was just like you're just sort of
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: and it also felt very copy paste.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Us probably happened before so so.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: So I the Google review stays up because they're like
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: take it down. No, no, no, the Google review stays up.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: This is where it gets like quite sad. I get
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: a message from someone through the Google review who responds
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: and says, I am the son of the woman. Oh
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: really terrible. I'm the son of the woman who was
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: found at the SPA. Here is my number. I would
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: like to talk to you. So for the next couple
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: of months, I am in touch with this woman's family
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: and they're awesome and but they I you know, I
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: gave I talked to them, I talked to their lawyer.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: I learned a lot about her. She seemed so amazing
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: and great and like and it was something that I
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: I cause I didn't want to put the fear of
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: God in them. I was like, listen, like, I can
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: give you my account. I don't know if your mother
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: had a condition. I don't know. You know it's ASAUA
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: and you do sign a wave right, right, and that
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: is real. But the fact of the matter is is
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: that I'm thirty two. Anna's however old Stanna is young.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: I've heard she's like in her mid seventies.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: She's mid seventies. Anna is ninety six. And we were
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: in the hot tub for about ten minutes and both
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: of us got so light headed we had to get
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: out right something. So it's sort of unusually high temperature
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: in my opinion. Not only that, but usually at these
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: places there are staff members of course checking in on people.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, because it is kind of a dangerous thing. You
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: were going to fall awa, you me? People, Yeah, keeping
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: checking in, we spaw.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: It's constant. People are constantly opening this on a doors,
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: checking in. There's timers.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: There was not a single staff member back there for
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: the entire time we were there. So I told them
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: this the family, and I was just like listen, like
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: if it were my mom, I would want to know,
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: like what's like. They seemed very under they were very
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: underprepared for this. My experience was that it felt unusually
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: warm and there was nobody checking in right, so you know,
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: and so anyway, we kept in contact. She was like
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: sending me pictures of her mom, and she was just
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: like the best. It was really very and it like,
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know, it was just very like humanity can
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: be really nice sometimes. It was just like they were
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: just like a really beautiful family, and I felt so
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: terrible for them with a horrible tragedy, but I just
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: learned a lot about this woman and she seemed awesome anyway.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: And what I did get to tell them was like, well,
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: if if there's anything I can say is that your
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: mother died very peacefully, and she looked like incredibly relaxed.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, I know, that's like a kind of a
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: crazy thing to say, but it was right. She was
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: like literally like chilling and had her caddy and was
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: in asana and was very peaceful. It was very I
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: don't know, it was at some whatever anyway. Anyway, Uh
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: so I talked to the lawyer. This is the lot.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: I'm wrapping up the last thing that I told. I
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: don't know where the case is at. Now what I
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: learn this is not the first time this has happened.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: Of course, there are active investigations. Wow, whoa, I'm glad
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: this is on Patreon. I don't I know.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Listener, please be discreet about the whole staff is the listeners.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: But it was like it's it's really not good over there,
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: and uh yeah, so this is not the first time.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: It probably won't be the last time. And I think
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: that place should be shut.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy. Hopefully the city is getting involved.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: I hope.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Oh what a thing to have been through.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: So there I was sleeping and then I hear.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: You hear like the loosest retelling of the story possible
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: me like grasping for details, just deeply inaccurate that nicely, No,
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: it was it was.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: It was really it was really kind of a crazy experience,
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: but by no means was it. Like I guess it
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: was scary because I was.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Sleep Yeah, and like my retelling is probably kind of
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: like the weird, nightmarish version of right, It's like, well,
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: this is kind of the details, they're just in a
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: weird order.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean you did kind of tell a ghost story,
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: which is I think how you tell a story like that?
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's so scary. So unfair to you anyway,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Well wild look, speaking of egregious behavior. Oh no, there
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: is something. This is a good pivot for story, Katie.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: I was excited to have you here on the podcast today.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: I was so thrilled.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: I was so happy you were going to do it.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: I adore. I thought we would have a nice conversation
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: and we would move on with our days. So I
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: was a little surprised when you came kind of just
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: trotting into my house holding what could not more clearly
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: be a gift. The podcast is called, I said, no gifts, Right,
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: do you have any explanations this for me? I don't know.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: Listen. I you're right, So I want to start there
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: and say that you are completely valid in your feeling.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: And you're running theme in this podcasting right, very right,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: So I have I would say, I guess I would
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: challenge that it's a gift and maybe.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: More of a forget me not.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: I love forgetting me, not forget me not.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: Yes, and and but you know, but I do think
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: I bent the rules.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: Well, should I open it here on the podcast?
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: Please, if that's okay with you?
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: If I sure, well, yeah, will bend the rules once once,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: no one tell any other guests. It's in kind of
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: this gorgeous gift bag, this brown Starbucks bag.
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: Yes, I ordered a coffee beforehand, and I said, what.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: A fabulous Yeah, perfect, Okay, I'm reaching in Okay. Oh
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: now it's wrapped in a crunchy brown paper.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: That's right, be careful now, it's delicate. Oh it is.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a heart it.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: Oh isn't that the most wonderful thing you've seen? Can
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: you believe it?
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: It's a little yellow pig taxi cab. It's almost impossible
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: to describe as a salt or pepper shaker. And it's
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: a taxi cab that's kind of bent purposefully. Yeah, it
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: looks like it's been in a car accident. Actually it's
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: a cracked window, yes. And then it has a pig driver, yes,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: who is also coincidentally the same color as the tech
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: he kept, so he almost looks like he's part of
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: part of it. It's kind of a freakish monster. And
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: it's absolutely adorable.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: Isn't it the most delightful thing you've seen ever?
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: Come from? Okay?
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: Well so so the reason why it's all okay? So
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: it came from an antique store in uh outside of Bakersfield.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: I went Whitewater Rafting recently and we went to like
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: a little shop. It was two peas and anse and
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: I love like little I call them faw fast little
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: goo goos, you know, love this sort of bullshit, you know.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: And so this is this is one of a pair.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: I have the other one.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, this is now we're bonded.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: And this is a forget me not because so yes,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: it's a saltan and or pepper shaker. I bought two sets.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: So this is a pig in a taxi, and then
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: there was another one that was pigs playing the flute,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: and I just thought these are so fantastic. But you
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: know what's interesting about these is that you would think
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: the way that the because so for the less it's like, yeah,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: the pig is hanging out of the taxi, he's got
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: like a wry little smile on him. He's done something naughty.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: You imagine what he's done is he's crashed the taxi
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: because the hood is like bent up in a kind
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: of crazy way. But because it's like a salt and
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: pepper shaker, you would imagine what's the other one.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: The matching thing. I would imagine whatever he's run into.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's a dumpster with another pig peaking out, that
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: he's run into a tree that is now splintered. Another car.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: That's so creative and such a better, better thing than
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: what it actually is, which is an identical thiss. It's identical.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: They don't even it's not even the opposite. They don't
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: even like, Okay, well, surely they're gonna like where the
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: hoods bend, they're gonna touch, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: Of course they face the exact same way and kind.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: Of pushed together. Ultimately totally.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: Nor is there an indication of whether or not it's
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: salt or pepper.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I would you just have to guess I
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: wonder if salt if the holes indicates I've never thought
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: about that.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: That's so smart, Bridger, they're the same holes three, because
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: I think you're right totally, it's the.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: Same holes, right, I mean, there are so many options
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: this could have been, Like the pepper could have been
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: like a pig body. Yeah, it's run over, you met,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: you know, so it's obviously a New York pig. So
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: may like a fire hydrant that's been tipped over, totally
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: coming out of it. Yeah, but they've just got the
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: identical thing. Yeah, they've just got baffling.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: I mean I have because I've been keeping them on
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: my desk because I'm like, I don't know what to
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: do with the right you know. I mean, I think
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: they're fantastic. I really think it's like kind of the
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: most bizarre Salter pepper shaker thing I've ever seen. Yeah,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know what to make heads or tails of it,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: because it's just sort of like, why have it crash
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: in a weird shape like that if you're not going.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: To like complete right, what's the story?
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: That's the story here? But I just thought it was like, yeah,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: I think regardless, it's so confusing, But I find it
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: to be so precious and charming. And I I thought
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: to myself, I know how much you And and for
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: the listener, Bridgard just did.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Something that I had to complete.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: It stopped my heart, which was that he so he
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: rested the pig in the taxi salt and pepper shaker
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: on his laptop and then sort of nuzzled his black
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: raspberry lacroix just gently against it, so that actually it
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: completes the scene. Folks, the pig driving the taxi has
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: crashed into the lacroix, and.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: Of course he did. He was probably distracted by this
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: giant can of sparkling lass, I said.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: And then you know, he said, the cans of water
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: should not be that big. You know, I've seen a
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: lot in my day as a pig taxi driver, but
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: that is a first.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: This is me doing someone's job for them exactly.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: And he said, also, honey, black raspberry, what that means? Honey?
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: What what do you mean by that? What's that taste like?
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: Is it black or ras?
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: And he's not getting a sip.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: Well, so I guess my challenge to you is and
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: this is not usually part of it, but I was
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: thinking out loud listen. I know that you hate gifts,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: but are you really mad looking at this little I.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Couldn't possibly do. This is one of these you know,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: the amount of gifts I get on this podcast is
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: other worldly at this point. Sure, so many of them
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: just end up in my garage because they can't be
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: in a home, an adult home, or it just starts
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: to look like you're gathering garbage. This is going to
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: go on the kitchen counter.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: I'm so.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: I have several ideas already.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: Oh my, I mean, I just think it's so homey,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: it's so sweettas mine's on my work desk. And I
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: bet if you fill it up with salt and I
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: fill up mine with pepper or whatever, and we use it,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: I bet one of us our hands will start to
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: roll or something. Something will happen.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, there'll be some mind meld of like one
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: of us will be like, oh my god, their food
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: isn't seasoned correctly.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and then it's like I'm hungry and I
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: got a call Bridger. Yeah yeah, that's really.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: What They're so happy about this. And you went whitewater
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: rafting before getting it, I did. Can you believe for
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: the first time? Yes, how was that?
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: You know, it was really it was truly extremely fun.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: Oh jealous, it was really fun. It was a couple's trip. Okay,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: we hadn't gone really on a proper couples trip. It
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: was us and our friends Carry and Joey and and
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: they're fantastic and we love them so much, and you know,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: it's always like, it's not I didn't feel like we
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: were taking a gamble with them because they're so easy
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: right to hang out with. But you you're always like,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: what's gonna happen?
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: You never know people's vacation styles. Is that nuts all
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: over the place.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: Have you ever had like one go seriously awry?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: Thank God?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: But it could happen at any moment. You never know people,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: I mean the moment you go on a vacation with
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: a stranger, yeah, or not a stranger, a friend who
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: you have never done it with.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: It could be a full experience, ruining thing completely because
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: people just do different things completely.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: And I also like, I mean, maybe it's easier with
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: couples because it's so much more natural to branch off
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: and do your couple right on t to take a
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: three hour break or we're actually getting on a walk
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: or whatever. Group trips I think is really the ground zero.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, of course toxic the things that can happen with
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: a group of people. Uh, and tensions are you know,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: while traveling are high peoples, they're less savory. Qualities can
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: come out. Yes, And then with a group trip you
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: can start bonding against each other. Oh, you can form
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I mean it becomes survival.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: It can become survivor and alliances.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: And alliances happened, and then that could end friendships.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: It makes me like my heart is like palpatator.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: Have you had a bad one?
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: Yes? Absolutely?
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, really tough to end a friendship? Yeah, Actually,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: can you say where it was or will it give away?
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine that this is going to make it
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: back to the person. Okay, it could actually No, it
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter. I don't care. Yeah. Yeah, it happened in
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: New Orleans.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: Oh and it should be such a good time. I know,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: just a good time. I've been watching Secret Lives of
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: Mormon wives and they just went to New Orleans on
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: a girl's trip. What happened did not go well?
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: You were like, it went perfect? I ever seen It's
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: like little house on the Prairie that episode of Realize
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: of Mormon lines a sort of Christian No.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: They played pregnancy roulette, which I don't know if I
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: wasn't aware of.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: This, missus Ransom.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, these are all women like essentially thirty and
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: under who are desperate to be pregnant at all times
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: having children, and for whatever reason they decided to play
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: pregnancy roulette, which is you get pregnancy tests and then
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: everybody peace on them, you know, well of course, and
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: then they like put them in a you put them
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: in a jar and then pull them out one by
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: one to see if someone in the group is pregnant.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: But it remains anonymous.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: Baffling, that's not that is absolutely not a thing that
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: exists anywhere else outside of that ship.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine why would you do the show?
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: Unwell? Also, like also just even hygienically speaking, the jar
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: of pissed on Oh and you're reaching in no.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: Get your favorite snacks as well food.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got the mixed nuts here, and you've got
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: the peepe sticks there, and then it's sort of like, oh,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: one of us is pregnant, okay, and it's sort of
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: like so then it's like, well, I guess they're Mormon,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: so they don't drink.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: No, they well, it's unclear with this group of people. Yeah,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: that's kind of their secret life. And one of them,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, meanwhile, I'm like, this show is so dangerous
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: for these people because one of them has been struggling
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: with fertility and just like trying to get pregnant. She
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: is my least favorite character on the show, and I
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: do hate her, but in this moment, she ye, you know,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: He're like, it's a compelling you know, Oh my god, Like,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: how could this person? Like why are they doing this
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: to this person?
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: Should I watch this?
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: Literally impossible for me to say at this point, I'm
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: going to say, yes, okay, what guided you to that?
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: I think, especially for someone who didn't grow up in
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: that culture, is fascinating totally because it's just unlike any
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: other behavior. Do you see adults they're not quite adults,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: I guess, because they're all quite young, but they're the
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: arrested development going on.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: Completely.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: It's all very strange.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: I guess I'm sort of realizing in real time that
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: I think I did watch the first few episodes of
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: the first season because this is a new show, yes, right,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: and this is like the one that's like the big
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: like who who. At the beginning is that there was
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: like a thing online where they they're TikTok.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, and they're all like, maybe there was just swingers
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: scandal which haunts them for the apparently the rest of
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: their lives.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: And was that real or is that something that I
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: have to continue.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: To be a mystery. I'll be honest. There you get
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: more and more details, but everybody's story is different, and
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: my my grand theory is that none of them has
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: any idea what swinging even is.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: It's like that's the thing, right, It's like maybe one
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: one kissed.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: Someone, right, That's where it's like. At one point, I
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: think they do bring up spin the bottle.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: I literally was about to say spin the bottle as
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: a bit. It's so crazy, it's.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: Like Disney brain, yeah yeah. But then another one claims
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: they were all showering together. So it's like we're big
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: swings between behaviors. But I don't know that we'll ever
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: really know what happened within the swinging community in Utah
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: with these gals. My guess is somewhere in between, you
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna watch watch it and let me
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: know you think I will, well, I think we should
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: play a game. Okay, we'll play a game called Gifter
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: a Curse. Okay, so let me get our game pieces here.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: Do you have anything to currently promote? No, people should
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: be following you on social media?
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, I mean I listen. I'm at Katie kat
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: Y Official FI s H E l L on Instagram.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: I have a defunct cartoon account called at sex Underscore
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: is underscore weird.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: I'm worth checking out for sure.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: Both are worth checking out. Absolutely. I have an updated
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: that cartoon account about three years. But I do cartoons,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: I do animations, and I'm currently working on a book
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: that will be out goodness, gracious, who knows when.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine?
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: And that's that's about it.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: I would say, everybody type Katie Fisher into wherever you
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: want and just go crazy. Just okay, this is how
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: we play Gift or Curse. I'm going to name three things.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: You'll tell me if they're a gift or a curse
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: and why. Okay, I'll t if you're right or wrong,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: because there are correct ants, totally all right. This first
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: one is from a listener named Matt. Gift or a
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: Curse car, d excuse me, gift you a curse car
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: decals that say mommy AF or daddy AF.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: Curse why? Because that's insane. It's it's the same thing
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: as any sort of I feel strongly about any bumper
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: sticker with an attitude, any sort of like to me,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: that's like honestly akin to like a sort of slick
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: and a girl big boob, you know, in the window.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: I just think it's like, why would you why? That's
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: the first impression, right right, and maybe the only impression.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: Maybe the only impression, Am I right?
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: Correct?
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: That's okay. I was so scared of like I don't
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: know you at all.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: I can't look. I have a lot of opinions and
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of thoughts and a lot of things, but
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: a mommy AF or daddy AF who it's And it's
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: also the new culture of trying to put attitude on
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: being a parent, That's what I'm saying, which is so annoying.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: That's what that's referring to, you know.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: I think it's like kind of trying to be like
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: I'm a mother, which shows this weird insecurity about being
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: a parent. I think where it's just like, well, you
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: made the choice own it. Don't try to turn it
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: into your new edgy. That's lifestyle real.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: I guess you know what. I guess because of the
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: af of it all, it felt young enough and internety
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: enough that I thought it was like weird kink stuff.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: Oh and it could be. It could be, which is
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: still annoying on it as a bumper sticker.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: And why would you ever want to even blur those lines?
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: If you have like your sweet precious sun in the
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: back right going on your first like Easter Sunday trip,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: why would you ever want you?
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: And I totally agree.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: It's like this, like, isn't it so ironic that I'm
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: a dad?
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: No? No, it's not.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: You made a choice deal with this.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: Yes, you're raising a human being at this point. Please,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: you have some level of earnestness.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: You have to just take this seriously.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, And you're absolutely correct there, I will say there,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: How do you feel about new I feel like there's
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: been like a bumper sticker renaissance, where like there are
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: new bumper stickers where like sometimes I'll find myself like, oh,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: that is a good bumper sticker. For example, I think
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: someone that drives around Highland Park has one that I
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: think says why litter shove it up your ass?
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: Oh that's nice, which is just sure.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: And occasionally there's one where I'm like, I feel like
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: there's one where it says something about like the whole
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: car is being run by a team of rats.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Sometimes I'm like, well, maybe there's some decent
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: bumper stickers if you think of the key honking I'm
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: listening to, and then like a very specific we've done
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: it too much, it's over.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if we're going to do keep honking,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: we need a whole new variation. I agree, but I
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: think that there have been and I think we're kind
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: of we need to put that one back on the shelf.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: Keep honking. I literally have a gun in my mouth
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: and my hand is shaking and my fingers on the trigger,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: and if you do it one more time, I might
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: do it. Just do what I dare you keep honking?
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, my thought was keep honking. My mom died last summer,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: and I just can handle anything at this point. I think, yeah,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna go, you have to really get into
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: life details, you know.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: I do like a bumper sticker that's long in a
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: big overshare. Yes, I think that's pretty nice.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's the new category. Yeah, but yeah, bumper stickers.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: I'll never have one. I don't think I'll ever have
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: a bumper sticker. No, but okay, you got that one correct.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: Number two. This is from Brittany Gift or a curse.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: When the restaurant cashier asks if you want sauce, you
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: say no, only to find multiple sauces in the bag
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: of food anyway.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: Gift why, because, I mean, I think it really depends
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: on what we're doing here, you know, if this is
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: like a fry or.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: You know, I think you know what you know.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: Here's their actual reason. And this is maybe just a
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: me thing, but sometimes I panic in situations like that,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, I don't want to be difficult. I'll
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: do the shortest way out of this. Yes, no, thank you,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: have a nice day. And then I'm eating something and
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: I'm like, God, I wish I had a sauce, even
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: just to have the option. And also even if the
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: thing that I'm eating doesn't require a sauce, Guess where
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: that sauce is going, right in the fridge.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: Guess what I'm making the next day something that that
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: sauce will go nicely on? Am I right or am
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: I wrong?
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: Correct?
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: Ah?
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: Oh it's a kif. How could you possibly think this
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: is a curse? This is very Grandma energy. Whoever is
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: giving you the extra sauces is looking out for you exactly.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: They're seeing there like I actually know what you need.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like the note in the lunchbox completely.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's such a it's a real sweet gesture. They
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: see what you need. The cashier, anyone in charge of
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: a sauce ultimately knows better than you totally. Why would
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: you complain about that you got a free little X
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: or something for the fridge or potentially to experiment with
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: your food? Yes? Who cares? That's a gift, a game
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: they're playing with you. Okay, you've gone too so far,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: very nice And where is the final one?
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: Here?
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: Wow? I've highlight these in a way that is almost blinding.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: I'll be honest. Okay, Oh here we go. Here it is.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: This is from a listener named Ruth Gift or a Curse,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: beginning a social media post with here's the thing curse correct?
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: Why would you have to say anything else?
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: Why would you I would say any one of those
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: camp sort of like like when you when you post
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: like a best friend and you start a long post
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: with this one, oh you know what.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, or like I don't normally uh huh, you know,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: not to be too emotional or whatever, to be abundantly clear, to.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: Be abundantly clear.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: Uh, what's what other ones are there? You've said this
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: one a lot.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: Of people have, or like they're recently. I mean, of
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: course like that, there's been a lot of allegations.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel like there are so many of
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: those where and there's always like who was ground zero?
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: Who's the first person that type this? That was just
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: like here's what I'm thinking, yes, and then it caught
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: on the post went viral, and then suddenly that phrases
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: just somebody thinks, oh, this is how you speak, this
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: is how you would announced, this is how you write
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: a post.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: Which was the one that Ruth said, here's the thing,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: here's the thing.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, shut up, what do you think that's that's in
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: reference to let's see, here's the thing, here's the thing.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: And yeah, there's like a particular type of posts that
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: this here's the thing, and it usually isn't the thing.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: It's like, it's not It's like it doesn't really mean
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: it's a meaningless beginning to a total like it's like memish.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: We need to find a way to describe the sort
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: of Internet language where yeah, it is almost a meme,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: right right, here's the thing. And then it would be like.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: I feel like it's like a rant. It's it's a
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: it's a it's a ramp.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: Into into some annoying opinion.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: I don't normally feel this way about the taco stand,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: but they got they gave me extra sauce and I
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: specifically said none. And as someone who is very mindful
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: about food waste, you know what I mean, it's like,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: here's the thing.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And also beginning any post, no post should be
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: more than two sentences anyway, So if you're saying here's
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: the thing, and that having to lay out a bunch
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: of stuff, get a substack or something so we can
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: orre you folly.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: Unless it's like here's the thing, I'm engaged.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: I do feel like there are a lot of here's
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  Speaker 1: the thing where it's like I don't like this and
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  Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and then it like becomes like a
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  Speaker 1: tribute to somebody about their personality or how cool they are.
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  Speaker 3: Totally, so lame, totally, and I find it's like I
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  Speaker 3: don't even I the only times I will read and
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  Speaker 3: really like interact with a very long you know, onslaught
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  Speaker 3: of whatever is like death posts of any kind of course, right,
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  Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, like and there's and there are people
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  Speaker 3: have mixed feelings about that, and I understand why because
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  Speaker 3: it's like the question of who's it for? But it's like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I think in this day and age,
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  Speaker 3: you want to let people know something that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I also think that that is ultimately just
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  Speaker 1: for the person too. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I agree.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes you especially with really serious things, it's like do
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  Speaker 1: whatever you need to do.
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  Speaker 3: I agree. It's it's like, you know, it's I've only
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  Speaker 3: had to do that once in my life. But it
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  Speaker 3: was like, I don't know, cathartic nice and you're sharing
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  Speaker 3: and it's communal and whatever. But anyway, it's like you know,
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  Speaker 3: pets like people whatever. It's like, I really, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm down for it and I read it and it's
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  Speaker 3: sweet and it's nice and it's like a moment out
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  Speaker 3: of your day where you sit with that person or
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  Speaker 3: that pet anyway, but you can't be saying like an opinion,
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  Speaker 3: and you can't just be talking.
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  Speaker 1: About a memory, right, And the other thing about here's
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  Speaker 1: the thing is I kind of like that phrase. I
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  Speaker 1: think when it properly use, I feel like it's like
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  Speaker 1: a tough person to you. You know, somebody's really tough
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  Speaker 1: when they're saying here's the thing, and then they're telling you, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's like a good aunt or uncle pulling you aside.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Yeah, giving you some information. But if
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  Speaker 1: it's my cousin, shut up, shut up, you got it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to see here's the thing. On Instagram
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  Speaker 1: here's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: And it's like a picture of them like walking through
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  Speaker 3: a meadow and it's like the saturation's really weird, and
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  Speaker 3: they have like a white dress and like cowboy boots.
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  Speaker 3: There's like a chain link fence, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, we are not doing that here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: I don't usually mix formal in the Western.
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  Speaker 3: Left, but today, on this Wednesday, I said, I actually
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  Speaker 3: said it's time. And actually every year I feel like
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  Speaker 3: I've become more and more of myself and I just
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  Speaker 3: want to honor that because I feel like as women,
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  Speaker 3: as women also as women, sorry, as women. As a woman,
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  Speaker 3: I can say, I mean genuinely, it's like, we gotta
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  Speaker 3: get away from it. We can't be doing these like
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  Speaker 3: stamp No, it diminishes everything you have to say. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I will say, you want to know what's really delicious?
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  Speaker 3: When you're talking shit and someone says, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course, here's the thing. Oh yeah, Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, I was just out. This is not at all
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  Speaker 3: what we're talking about. But I was just out at
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  Speaker 3: dinner and we all realized it at the same time
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: that we all had the same shared dislike for someone,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: and I haven't had that in so long.
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  Speaker 1: The best. Oh my god, I'm gonna we have to
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  Speaker 1: circle back after the recording. I doubt if I know
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  Speaker 1: this person.
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  Speaker 3: I doubt you did.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, but you might. Okay for the full circle, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and we should wrap up for everyone, But I do
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  Speaker 1: I'm quickly going to say along those lines when I
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: want to. If I've heard a story about someone I hate,
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  Speaker 1: or if I've heard gossip about somebody, I text another friend,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: Yes have you heard about blank? And the first And
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a big lol person, not really into it
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  Speaker 1: at all, But if somebody responds to that question with
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: lowercase lol. My heart sores. Oh, because it's like that
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  Speaker 1: they know exactly what I'm talking about and they're ready
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  Speaker 1: to get into it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, it is the most It's like, the
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  Speaker 3: lowercase lol is the most like I see you, I
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  Speaker 3: see you, and I have so much to say. It's
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  Speaker 3: not interesting the way that language develops that way. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: it's really like who buddy, Oh, I got something for you.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, so satisfying. It's like a warm bath. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh well, we're not going to answer. We've answered every
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: question we possibly could today.
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  Speaker 3: I think, so what a Delighttie.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so glad you could do the podcask you so much.
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  Speaker 3: I truly had a blast. Bonnie was here.
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  Speaker 1: What this is such a fully formed episode. This is
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: easily I would say, a top five episode of the
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: whole show, get out top five.
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  Speaker 3: Do you say this to everyone?
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: No? Absolutely, I want to start telling people this is
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: a bottom three and.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe you should step it up in the future, and
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  Speaker 3: maybe you should get it together and you should work
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: on you. Here's the thing.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. We're deleting the audio.
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  Speaker 3: We're putting a different guest.
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  Speaker 1: No, Oh my god, I knew you would be fantastic.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: I had so much fun.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: Thank you for being listener. The podcast is over, we're
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: wrapping it up. You're starting the episode over and just
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: beginning the cycle again, I assume, so enjoy the episode
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  Speaker 1: for a second time. I'm out of here. Katie's out
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  Speaker 1: of here. I love you.
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  Speaker 3: Goodbye, bye bye. Be within