Latest / The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast / #165: Gill1918 Presents David Mitchell “Honoring the Baton” Powered by Coach O
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- 0:00Welcome to the Gill 1918 Project, a podcast series by
- 0:03coaches for coaches, powered by Gill Athletics.
- 0:05Think of it as the Ted Talks of track and field coaching.
- 0:08Short, insightful, and packed with valuable strategies to help
- 0:11you grow as a coach. This episode is part of the
- 0:13Youth and Beginner Series, brought to you by Coach O.
- 0:16In this series, we focus on topics relating to coaching
- 0:19youth athletes, coaching beginner athletes of any age,
- 0:21and supporting brand new coaches as they find their way.
- 0:24With that in mind, let's grow. Hey everybody, I'm David
- 0:28Mitchell, and I'm here today to talk to you about developing a
- 0:32culture that honors the relay baton and how defining roles and
- 0:36responsibilities for each relay league supports that.
- 0:41Good ideas are often birthed after struggles or failures.
- 0:45My teams had a few of those, and it led to setting up this system
- 0:49that I hope will help you avoid some of those uncomfortable
- 0:52moments. Let me tell you about two of the
- 0:55most painful failures. 4 by 800 meter relay at state
- 0:59championship. Ran great, over 4 seconds,
- 1:03better than anytime that year. School record, but got passed on
- 1:06the anchor and finished second. So what went wrong?
- 1:10My anchor flicked the baton down at the track and we were
- 1:13dequeued. No points, no medals, no school
- 1:18record. He knew better.
- 1:20So why did he do that? Because we had gotten our home
- 1:24track resurfaced that year with a nice bouncy surface, and he
- 1:29had gotten into the habit of bouncing the baton off the track
- 1:32and catching it, just flicking it down, having it flip a
- 1:36partial flip and grabbing in his hand.
- 1:39He was a great kid and a great runner, so I didn't get on him
- 1:41about it when he did it at the state meet, though on the harder
- 1:45track surface. Think any clang clang awful
- 1:52sound that no coach ever wants to hear, and disqualification.
- 1:58One improvement to our culture after that was to implement the
- 2:02rule that if a baton ever hit the track or the ground during
- 2:07practice or even during a meet, everybody stopped what they were
- 2:11doing and did 5 push ups. If it happened another time on
- 2:15the same day, the number of push ups doubled and that continued.
- 2:19It really helped instill the importance of protecting and
- 2:22honoring the baton and caused a little bit of positive peer
- 2:26pressure. Those athletes did not want
- 2:29their teammates unhappy with them for having to do the push
- 2:33ups. The other painful incident that
- 2:36reinforced the need for roles and responsibilities for each
- 2:39relay leg happened at the regional meet.
- 2:41At that time, the only way to qualify for the state meet.
- 2:45This time it involved the 4 by 200m relay.
- 2:48We are in the fastest seat along with the number one team in the
- 2:52state, but the top two were auto qualifiers so we were only
- 2:55paying moderate attention to them.
- 2:58Out in front our team ran great, clearly in second place, but
- 3:03really not terribly far behind good old number one and well
- 3:08ahead of 3rd and 4th place. Those teams were clearly behind
- 3:12us. It was clear that we were about
- 3:15to qualify. For state.
- 3:17Score eight points in the regional meet and smash our
- 3:20school record in the process. That is until our anchor leg
- 3:25came clearly into view and had a bright white puka shell necklace
- 3:30bouncing up and down on his collarbone.
- 3:33Instant DQ. Not going to state no points for
- 3:37the regional no school record. The biggest insult came at the
- 3:42state meet when our regional time would have placed second
- 3:45place overall. Brutal.
- 3:53We had the roles and responsibilities in place at
- 3:56that point, but this relay was made-up of three seniors and a
- 4:01junior on the anchor. They had been taking care of
- 4:04business all year long, so I did not stay on them about following
- 4:09through with the roles and responsibilities.
- 4:13Great kids, top athletes, but I shouldn't have let them get
- 4:16slack in the way that they did things.
- 4:19Culture, it's sometimes said as whatever we as leaders do or do
- 4:24not tolerate. And there I tolerated a little
- 4:27too much. Actually, in both of those
- 4:29instances, I tolerated things that I shouldn't have and
- 4:33unfortunately, it came back to haunt us.
- 4:37So what are the roles and responsibilities?
- 4:41First off, we only kept our batons home or away in our big
- 4:46black metal medicine kit Med kit for dual meets when we put out
- 4:52multiple teams onto the track in each relay we bring lots of
- 4:55batons, enough to make sure we had enough to fill fill the
- 5:00lanes at those times. But for a big meet, we would
- 5:07only bring 2, the two in the most pristine, unscratched,
- 5:11undented condition. Sometimes I might bring a third
- 5:14one that was hidden that they didn't know about because I just
- 5:18wanted to be sure. But as far as the athletes knew,
- 5:20we had two batons. They were always in the Med kit.
- 5:24The lead off leg have the responsibility of getting the
- 5:27baton, keeping possession of it and getting it to the starting
- 5:31line on the track. It was the lead off legs
- 5:35responsibility to be steady and reliable, AKA no fall starts,
- 5:41and to set the stage by competing well and passing off
- 5:45the baton very cleanly. Second leg had to get the relay
- 5:50card from me, turn it into the clerk at the appropriate time.
- 5:53If there were no relay cards, like at a dual meet, the second
- 5:57leg shared the responsibility of the third leg that I'll describe
- 6:01for you in just a minute. On the track, the role of the
- 6:05second leg was to receive and give the baton smoothly and to
- 6:10establish position. Second and third leg both had to
- 6:13be good receivers and good at handing off.
- 6:17Sometimes that helped dictate who got to be the lead off leg.
- 6:19If they couldn't receive very well or for some reason the
- 6:23anchor leg didn't hand off the baton very well, that got them
- 6:27on the anchor leg more often than not.
- 6:29The athletes were able to do all of those things just fine, and
- 6:33it was able to be placed more on ability than anything else.
- 6:40So second leg had to go out and establish that position for us.
- 6:44Third leg's job off the track was to check uniforms and
- 6:48jewelry to ensure that everyone was legal, properly equipped,
- 6:54dressed legally on the track. The third leg also needed to
- 6:58receive and give the baton smoothly in addition to being
- 7:02what we called the first anchor, getting the baton into or near
- 7:07the lead on that third leg. Third leg was a very important
- 7:12leg and often overlooked some coaches at clinics.
- 7:17I can remember Tony Veeny was a great speaker at clinics,
- 7:20probably still is, and he talked about teams that had three
- 7:25horses and a donkey or three studs and a dud.
- 7:29And where do you, where do you put the donkey or where do you
- 7:32put the dud? And we could talk about that all
- 7:34day long in another situation. But just one of those things
- 7:38that goes into the makeup of a relay team is figuring out how
- 7:43to best deploy your personnel based on their ability.
- 7:47So the anchor for the 4th legs job was to remain calm when
- 7:51receiving the baton and then go compete.
- 7:55Not to overthink, not to strategize, but compete as hard
- 8:00as possible through that finish line.
- 8:03After the race the anchor leg had the responsible
- 8:06responsibility to personally return the baton to the Med kit
- 8:10in a timely fashion because unless they were in the 4x4,
- 8:14somebody else was going to need that baton before the meet was
- 8:17over later on. So that fourth leg if if I had
- 8:22been enforcing that. At the state.
- 8:25Meet might not have gotten flicked down on the ground.
- 8:28We didn't have that part in place yet.
- 8:30That was in just my 4th year as a head coach.
- 8:35Or more accurately, if I had stopped him from flicking the
- 8:39baton and picking it back up off the nice bouncy track.
- 8:43But it looked kind of cool. And I admit I kind of wanted to
- 8:46do it myself. But I never did because I had
- 8:48been had it instilled in me coming up as an athlete to honor
- 8:53the baton. When the honor of the baton
- 8:57culture was fully established and the roles and
- 9:01responsibilities were made clear and enforced, it eliminated
- 9:06nearly every, never every but nearly every issue that could
- 9:10cause a disqualification. So do you have an honor of the
- 9:15baton culture? What do you have, what kinds of
- 9:19traditions do you have in place or what will you put in place
- 9:23after hearing this particular talk?
- 9:27Do your 4 relay legs have responsibilities off the track
- 9:32or do you kind of trust them to figure it out on their own?
- 9:36Or do you have coaches that are sort of micromanaging and
- 9:39looking over everything that that happens, everything that's
- 9:42done to be able to do that? I highly recommend that you go
- 9:48ahead and establish both and honor the baton culture.
- 9:51Push ups are great little motivator and that you have
- 9:55those responsibilities lined up. It doesn't have to be the same
- 9:57as what I had, but if you have something defined for them and
- 10:02they know their job on that leg, things will go better for your
- 10:06team as the. Show notes indicated this
- 10:10episode was originally recorded in July of 2025, long before the
- 10:15recent controversy in the news about disqualifications for what
- 10:20was mentioned as taunting under the rules in the National High
- 10:24School Federation. But what appeared to be a
- 10:26celebration. So rather than go over what's
- 10:29already been gone. Over a lot in social.
- 10:31Media and newspapers and all over the place, really, millions
- 10:35of views have taken place. What do we do?
- 10:38How do we deal with that? How do we move forward in a way
- 10:43that another controversy like this is not going to happen
- 10:47again? And that's a very tough
- 10:48question. So my thoughts are those within
- 10:52the sport, athletic directors, coaches that have some influence
- 10:57on state associations, work closely with their state
- 11:01associations. If your state has an association
- 11:04of officials to work with them as well so that everybody can
- 11:08truly get on the same page. Because there's a huge
- 11:12difference between taunting and celebration.
- 11:15And if we look around other sports, I mean, after I coached
- 11:20track for over 20 years, I became a volleyball coach and
- 11:23there's a whole lot of celebration that could often be
- 11:25considered taunting every time there's a mis serve, a ball that
- 11:30goes out of play, other things that a team that's getting the
- 11:33point of celebrating. And that that really is
- 11:37different. And, and when we look at the the
- 11:40big picture of college and professional sports and even
- 11:43high school sports, all we see on all types of media are people
- 11:48flexing and we see more bicuspids and tonsils than the
- 11:52average dentist because people are yelling with their mouth
- 11:55open after something good happens.
- 11:58So this is a very sticky situation that happened there.
- 12:03And I would say coaches just do the best that you can.
- 12:06Again, like the first part of the episode mentioned, have a
- 12:10system in place for yourself. Track should be fun.
- 12:15Kids should be able to celebrate and not have to worry about
- 12:19being disqualified. But also, there's no room for
- 12:22taunting, for actual turning around, flexing in somebody's
- 12:25face like has happened on the pro level that doesn't belong in
- 12:29high school. So having the conversation over
- 12:32and over again, not saying that anybody did anything wrong in
- 12:36this one. I'm not talking about that.
- 12:37I'm just talking about trying to move forward.
- 12:39Using this as a springboard for conversation might be one of the
- 12:44few ways that things can actually get changed.
- 12:47And and again, lobbying for an understanding, getting education
- 12:52for officials, that's one of the things that we're doing through
- 12:56Kocho's education program. We've got officials and meet
- 13:00management training programs. So find a place where that can
- 13:05happen and see if we can't avoid ever having millions of views
- 13:10for something controversial like this that that changes a huge
- 13:14outcome for a bunch of young people that deserve better.
- 13:18Thank you. So thank you for listening.
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- 13:41I would love to hear from you and hear what your struggles
- 13:46are, what your successes are and how you plan to make life as a
- 13:50relay coach go even better in this coming season.
- 13:54Thanks for listening. Bye.
- 13:55Bye. Hey gang, Mike Cunningham here.
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