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Yoreh De’ah 201:52-54. Mikvaos: Hashaka, Combining Mikvaos · SHULCHAN ARUCH YOMI: Own the Halacha in 25 minutes a day!

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  OK, good morning. We're continuing Helkos Mikvaos
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  Raish aleph. We're starting today with nun
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  base. OK, how about the art of Mikva
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  puzzle O kasser E Mikva Kasser la hakshiro.
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  OK, so you have a pit of water or a mikva, whatever and it's
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  puzzle or it's lacking 40 SE OK, there's two possibilities.
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  So then it's and right and there's another mikvah that's
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  next to it that is kosher, but you just want to have another
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  mikvah. Whatever the reason is you want
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  to use the other mikvah. OK, there could be a myriad of
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  reasons. 1 might be more deep and dangerous.
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  The other one is more shallow and safer.
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  Whatever it is losing your Kaylee and whatever you want to
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  use it for senius reasons doesn't matter, right?
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  You want to re filter the water, empty the water and refill it.
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  Like we can do an R an R mikvahs.
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  OK, so then you want to make it kosher.
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  So what do we do? Or you have another situation.
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  It's another scenario. You have two mikvahs, but
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  they're both Paso because they're in Kaser.
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  That's the case. They're both Kaser they neither
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  one of them has 40. But if you were to combine them
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  together and make it 1, then there would be 40.
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  Like let's say each one is 21 for example, or 39 for example.
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  But each one by itself is not 40 SA guba and you want to combine
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  them in order to make it kosher. Either combine them like you add
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  each one, you combine them so that they now become bigger,
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  they become 40 SA or one was kosher and one was possible.
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  And you want to combine them to make it attached so that now
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  they're both kosher. OK, sarik shehe nekev shebinahem
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  rokhov rokhov kishwa ferret ha node.
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  So one way to make it kosher is you make a hole to connect the
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  two, right? They're two separate.
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  We're going to see they're two separate boroughs.
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  They're connected through a side wall and you want to connect
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  them. So the whole must be the size of
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  Kishwa Ferra Tanode. We had this many times.
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  Basically you take your two fingers and you just roll them
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  around and that's the size. So according to Okai I'm not, it
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  would need to be at least 4 centimeters.
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  And according to other opinions, it can reach close to and
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  according to many of our fingers it's closer to 5 centimeters.
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  So when you make a mikvah, generally speaking there always
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  has it's a pipe that's the size of about two inches, 5 or 6
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  centimeters, at least five. That's how they make them OK 5
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  or 6 usually, sometimes more OK. So that's to connect the, the
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  right the the mikvah you're dipping in with the Mayim Shuvim
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  to the original Ozar or bore the from the rainwater.
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  OK, so the size has to be a full circle of Kushpa ferrita node.
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  So if you're going to make it square, then the walls, the
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  walls of the square must be, we'll call it 5 centimeters.
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  So that's 5 by 5. And yeah, so it doesn't go by
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  area. It needs its full chauffeur
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  Etano. Very good question.
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  Now, again, we're going to see that sometimes.
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  And whenever they build on mikvah, that's always how it is
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  and that's what it is. But you'll we're going to see
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  cases where it can be much less than chauffeur Etano.
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  Basically, we're going to get to this.
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  If the connection goes above the walls between the two mikvahs,
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  let's say you're going to take two, we're going to see this.
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  Let's say you take 2 pits and you overflow them so that on the
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  top it's connected with water. Since it's connected by
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  overflowing the walls, then you don't need a full area of
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  Shwaferra tanode. We'll get there, but it OK.
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  The other thing also is the shock points out you need
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  Shwaferra tanode to connect them of Hashaka when this is the din
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  of Hashaka or whenever, right? An hashaka mix is a proper kibur
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  that you can combine them or one can make the other one kosher,
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  right? As long as the water is clean if
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  one of the waters is dirty or a different color from a masha.
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  So that's previous. So yeah, which could be a
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  problem. But what is the shock point out
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  over here, which the Sholkhanar does say here later on is you
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  need sholaferra to know if it's a Sul de arisa.
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  If you have a mikvah that's hustle da raisa and a mikvah or
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  it's missing and a mikvah, that's kasha right?
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  You want to connect them to do hashaka on a dim da raisa, then
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  we need chauferra tanod. But the mission is clear and no
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  one really argues. If it's only absoul darabanan,
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  then you need kehut hassera, just a masha.
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  So our mikvahs baby absoul dar aisa might be absoul daraban.
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  All right. We know maim shuvim if if it's
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  most the shokanara and most rishonim almost all say maim
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  shuvim is only a dinderabana, which we mean in our mikvahs.
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  Technically it would be OK if it was only kakuta sera.
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  We always build it with Shaffer to know it.
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  Anyway, it's according to Urbainutam that if the entire
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  mikvah is maim shuvim, that's a deraisa and the Rama says we
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  should definitely pass going to follow at least like Akhila, we
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  should follow the Rabinutam. So certainly according to the
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  Rama, we must make our mikvahs with kushal ferrita note and
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  that's that's what we do. But just point out if it's only
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  an independence, as long as it's minority, depends if it's
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  minority or majority, that's Rabinutam.
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  If it's mayim shui mazari sidharabana.
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  But OK, Hagaviki lua hamayim. Yeah, Naroka naked and the water
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  flow must be must fill up that schwalferrita node, right?
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  It's not only enough to have a pipe, a chauffeurrita node has
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  to be full of water for for it to be hashaka.
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  Now you make your kosher mikvah and sorry, you have your bore.
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  Oats are the original, let's see, we'll call it oats are
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  shaka. The oats are of Omega shamim,
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  the bore of Omega shamim. That's your original kosher
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  mikvah, right? From main water.
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  We don't touch that water. We don't change that water.
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  You make your other water that we go into for dipping, bore
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  tavila, whatever where we dip inside and that gets that.
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  We pour in the water from the faucet or really through ziria.
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  But OK, the point is if we're calling that Mayim shuvim and
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  we're using that mikvah as hashaka, So once you do hashaka,
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  then you could close up that hole between the two mikvahs,
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  keep, and then that mikvah that we make for going into, for
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  dipping. That's kosher la olambad until
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  you drain it and refill it up. Because you refilled it up, you
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  made it, you got rid of it. But once you make it kosher with
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  hashaka, it's kosher forever. Even if something happens to the
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  megashamim, the bore of megashamim, you get a leak and
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  all the water disappears and there's not going to be rain for
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  six months. That mikva is 100% kosher.
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  And that's the halacha. There's no question about it.
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  Let's keep reading. 1 moment you did Hashaka Nishar la Ola
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  ambachero, it's forever kosher. Afilu nistam hanekev Akharkov
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  even afterwards here. So now let me mention the the
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  Shah quotes the Rabenu. You're welcome.
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  Very famous. I think we mentioned this in
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  this year in the past that he holds no once that the mikva is
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  only kosher when it's open, when that Hashaka is is actually
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  happening when that pipe is open.
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  But if it gets sealed off, Robinia Rokum holds it's it's
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  it's puzzle the the the right, the mine Shuvi mikva that we
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  made Kushar it it's no longer Kushar once it gets sealed.
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  So therefore that's so that therefore we are Lekhatila.
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  We're Mahmer. Well, Katrilla, we are
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  definitely Mahmir. Every mithvah will always have
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  that hole open. Whenever a man or woman goes to
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  the mithvah, that hole must be open so that we're Mikayam.
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  The din of the opinion of Rabini Aruka has to actually be active,
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  otherwise that mithvah is going to not going to be kosher
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  anymore. And so that is why many mikvahs
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  will have a second bore or a third bore, whatever, a second
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  original bore. So now you have three in the
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  room. You might not see the three, but
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  OK, there's really three over there.
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  And the other one is what we call zrea.
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  We, we explained that already. But there's the reason why the
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  many mikvahs nowadays when we're extra mahamar not to make, not
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  to, to rely only on the hashaka, because to be makayam the
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  opinion of the urbania racham. Because what might happen when
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  sometimes that middle that that pipe for hashaka gets closed,
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  let's say sometimes they close it all the time so that you have
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  less water interchange. Or whenever they want to empty
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  the water and of the zipping water and fill up a new water,
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  they might close it. So for all these reasons, there
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  are times when it can get closed.
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  And we're afraid if you only rely on a mikvah of Asaka that
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  someone will forget to open it. So for that reason, that's the
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  only reason why they make a whole nother mikvah of Otzar of
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  Zuria. So that just in case, because
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  just in case, according to Rabinia Rochem, if that mikvah
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  kosher puzzle, if Asaka is not working.
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  So that doesn't help you. So that's why we we used an
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  Otzar of Zuria to make sure that you don't need it.
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  The dipping mikvah got water from the Ozar Hazriya and so
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  therefore you don't even need them.
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  You only need one or the other. You either need an Ozar Hazriya
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  or you only need an Ozar of Hashaka.
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  You never need both. But in in order to be Makayam
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  every shita in case it comes that one of them didn't work,
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  now you have the other opinion. I'll explain again afterwards if
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  it's not clear. OK, let's read inside Kaushi.
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  I'm a Schwerte nodemato. I feel a Dover shuhumi briata
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  maim suffik E maneka bracha chaerta nod imlav Paso.
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  Anytime you have that Schwerte tanode, if that, let's say you
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  originally had a Schwerte tanode, but it got sealed up
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  with something and it's so even though it's originally hatch
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  chauferitanode, even though it's getting sealed up, I don't know,
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  dirty parts of water, whatever it is, some dirt, some crud, I
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  don't know, algae, whatever is filling up that, that, that
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  hole, it's mamaya chauferitanode.
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  So if when you're doing hashaka, you don't have a clear clearance
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  filled with water of chauffeur, ferritanode, it doesn't work.
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  And right fuel diversion we bring out, even though it comes
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  from the water. I don't know about everything,
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  but OK. And then there's any obstruction
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  will close it off again. If it was originally you had a
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  shaka, then Mipaska and Mika are then olamva.
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  It's a problem. You don't even need it at all.
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  We're talking about you never had a moment when it was totally
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  clean and open and clear. And anytime you have a case of a
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  Suffolk, we have to go to La Cumra.
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  If we're talking about, yeah, generally speaking, we go La
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  Cumra. OK, right.
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  And it depends what the situation is.
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  Often the case of Shaffer, it's a Dender Isa.
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  Because if it would be an only, if it would only be a case of
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  Dharabana. And we learnt Kehuta Sahara is
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  enough. So generally speaking, if you
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  need Shaffer, it's a Dender Isa. And if it's a case of Dharabana,
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  you only need a Khuta Sahara. So if it's a question, we go,
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  OK. So if it depends what the case
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  is, if you sometimes you can have many little holes and you
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  they add up together to node that works.
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  If one is Shaolin, you have at least start off with the kosher
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  mikva and then you're just using and then you're using that to
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  make the other mikva. As long as you have at least one
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  of them kosher, then you don't need a a complete solid area.
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  Let me replace it without any interruptions.
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  A complete solid area node. That's only necessary if they're
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  both hustler and you need to combine them to add them
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  together to be 40. So then it must be completely
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  open without any lines in between.
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  Otherwise, if one is 100% Shalim and you're just using the other
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  one, it's OK if you add up a bunch of holes.
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  The motor lah por mekhlavitzad hanar valid Baba alpha piche and
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  BA arbaim SE AAA ara khule mekhalkhala to unrow in akhala
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  shibaniyam shamayim bahim in anar der khakho Dino me nakavim
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  dakim shibakaraka have a keyboard.
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  So here the Rama points out that you can even have essentially
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  microscopic holes. In other words, it's a very thin
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  wall between them of dirt and you see that the water is
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  flowing through. I'm not exactly sure how we're
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  going to know this or see this, but if you have a case where you
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  know that the water is seeping right through the wall right
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  through it. So then even though you might
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  not see the actual holes, but you see the water flowing
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  through. So then he says that's fine
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  because you get all the holes together are going to be more
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  than Kushal ferrets anode. But if they're both missing 2039
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  and 39 or 21 and 21, for example, 8 and a Kavima Dakim in
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  Star film Nakasha Ferreto notes. So for that, the little holes
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  don't aren't enough to connect the 2, though I didn't in Khalaq
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  Mikva bisal of Sal of a sock. If you have a Mikva and you
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  divide it up with a Sal or a sock in Ainsch or a Mikva Bisat
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  ekhad puzzle. If you don't, even if it's you
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  have if you don't have a quiche Ferretti, another opening or you
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  don't have enough on one side, then it's even though if even if
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  it goes through the basket or you have like a screen both
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  sides, it's not it's not. If both sides are not a sheer,
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  then let's say you want to hang up a screen between the two,
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  right, a bunch of fine holes. So it's not going to help you if
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  both of them both sides are not dirty, but otherwise it does
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  work. OK.
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  Abala akshar, abala akshar mikva shalu.
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  Abala akshar mikva shalu. Now you have one mikva, that's
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  mahim shuvim and one mikva that's not mahim shuvim, that's
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  kosher of Alpish Eno mashiko ella kissara kashir.
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  So this is what I said before. As long as it's kihuta Sara,
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  then that's fine. So our mikvas, according to the
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  Maran Shokhanara, that's fine, you don't need kisha
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  ferratanode, but according to the Roma you do.
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  OK, but filo en Mei hashaka rowing pine havir, even if the
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  water, right? That's what I meant to say.
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  The hashaka is going through the sides of the wall or underneath
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  like our miklas. So that's so then according to
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  the Mahabhar, you only need kehuta Sara.
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  OK, but all right with daf kabab soshi Eva shui miderabanam.
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  That's what we were saying. The only time it works kehuta
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  Sara is if it's a solderabana abab absul de araisa.
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  Any time it's absul de araisa right be in on kisha verita
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  node. Commotion is the air.
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  But then you need a full area kisha verita node right?
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  Well as we just mentioned before, it depends if it has to
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  be congruous or not above absul. The rest we don't kisha or not
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  commotion Vera feel of absul Shiva yeesh holkin vahena oila
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  wrote and that's the Rama. I was saying it's the the Rama.
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  The Rama is saying we should be like Hathila mahmir, like rabain
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  Utam and consider our our waters and our miklas Mayim shuvim as a
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  sold to Araisa and we need kishwa ferra tanod nandala koto
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  shebeen shne mikvao shanista. Now let's say you have a wall
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  between two miklas and you have a crack in between Mitzad
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  litzad. You have a full crack, right?
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  You can peek through from one side to the other.
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  I feel a kosher who, even if it's just a kosher who, if it's
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  so you have a crack, that's a kosher who, a thin little crack,
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  a line and it's going between the two Miklas.
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  So normally we say you need Kishwa Ferretanode to connect
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  two Miklas here. We're going to say, wait a
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  second. If it's a vertical crack,
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  Leschetti can, if you look in the mission and I'm showing him
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  it's a bit of a Mahalkas, but let's just let's just follow
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  here. If it's Leshetti vertical, so
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  then mitzvah, then it's good enough.
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  You don't need Kishwa Ferret to note because it's a vertical
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  crack, the La Arif. But if it's going to be La Arif,
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  La Arif, oh, sorry, you're right.
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  If it's Leshetti mitzharif, La Arif, Schnee hamikos la
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  Hakshira, then that works the Arif.
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  If it's horizontal, anum midstarfing.
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  If it's a horizontal crack, then it's not.
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  If it's a horizontal crack, so then it's not midstarif.
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  If it's horizontal, then it must be a full area of a circle of
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  we'll call it, we'll call it, I don't know, 4 or 5 centimeters,
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  the EM. So what's the difference between
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  Shetty and Arabs? Are the different explanations.
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  The Kitzer, if it's vertical, we assume it's not going to get, we
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  assume it's always going to stay.
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  It's a permanent crack. And since it's a permanent crack
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  and it's just a crack, we let it go and we the vertices will be
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  longer than the diameter. I'm not aware that needs.
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  I don't know if it needs to be. It would make sense that the
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  vertical crack must be at least 4 to 5 centimeters to be a
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  connection. I'm not positive, but it does
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  make sense, and we'll see. Even so, more so why that's very
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  it's likely to be true. I don't recall seeing anyone
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  discuss that, but you'll see for going over the wall.
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  It must be. It must be Fischer Ferretenot,
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  like you're saying. You'll see in a moment.
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  Hopefully we'll get there real soon.
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  OK, at the end of the sea if y'all get there.
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  So then if if it's vertical, we assume it's permanent.
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  So the opening is permanent and we call that a enough for it to
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  be in a roof or a shaka. If it's horizontal, the logic
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  behind horizontal is we're afraid or we assume over time
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  it'll collapse because it's just a hairline fracture or a thin
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  fracture. It's less than sure to note as
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  time like the wall, maybe dirt or stuff will end up coming down
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  and seal it up. Since we're if we assume it
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  might or it will close up over time.
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  Therefore we assume it's sealed up right now and it's not again,
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  it's it seems to be more of a Lachlan emotion you see, and I
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  type it in, but that's what some of them have Farshim explained.
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  OK, let's keep going. The IM nifrat takota la mala
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  zeliza. So here, this is what you were
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  saying. Now what happens if the wall
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  between the two MI kavos or two pits, the wall breaks down and
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  now the wall, the water's flowing over the wall from one
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  to another. It's not through the wall, it's
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  over the wall. OK, the wall gets lower than
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  it's over. So then the aloka is you don't
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  need a full area, a circle of 4-5 centimeters.
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  All you need is the mnifratza cota lamala zemiser al room
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  clipat hashum, the al rokhav Kishore ferret anode kasha.
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  So then you just need it's not enough to have moisture of tofea
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  Kalmanat lahatsvi. That's not enough.
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  You still need a flow, but it needs to be super thin, you
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  know, like a onion peel. So so still has to be mamasha
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  that you can see water connecting it.
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  But this thinnest amount is enough.
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  But it's not can't just be Kehuta Sara.
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  It does have to be since it's we're talking about Dina de
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  Reisa, it still has to be Kishva Ferra Tanode.
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  In other words, not the the a one line of four or five
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  centimeters, right? No.
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  Well, let's say they're equal. Let's keep it simple and without
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  bringing in too many different scenarios.
• 23:03
  So it means the water is overflowing from one to another.
• 23:09
  They could be they could be the same 2 equal Miklas and the the
• 23:15
  dividing wall between them became lower so that the waters
• 23:19
  connecting again. There's all kinds of scenarios
• 23:21
  you can make up, let's just keep reading.
• 23:23
  Haggah the Hua dinamaya gal shalafar Ben shnea mikvos.
• 23:28
  Let's say you had a pillar of stones dividing up a wall of
• 23:33
  stones dividing up A-22 mikvos. If not, tell me, go vahagal me
• 23:40
  at. Then you start removing the top
• 23:42
  layer of rocks that are separating the mikvah.
• 23:44
  So now they're attached from one to another.
• 23:47
  Kirohav Kishou Ferretanode the room creepa sashum.
• 23:51
  As long as you can remove enough rocks that it's wide enough of
• 23:55
  the kilua the water is overflowing like a waterfall
• 23:58
  type of thing. That's wide enough of Kishou
• 24:00
  Ferretanode, right? We'll call it 5 centimeters,
• 24:03
  whatever it is. So then as long as it's a thin
• 24:06
  thin layer of flowing over the room, the room creepas Hashim as
• 24:12
  long as it's the height of an onion peel.
• 24:15
  So then sagi de loba enon kemali, kisha ferritano ella bin
• 24:19
  nekev. The only time you need a full
• 24:22
  circle is if it's a hole between two walls.