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Weekend Winners & Losers, Ross Jackson on Saints · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: All start Toyota presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester
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  Speaker 1: Well the plays get broken down and science gets denied.
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  Speaker 3: I got to come off the bench.
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  Speaker 1: Hour two of Off the Bench Live from the Mercedes
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  Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in hour number two. Here on
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  Speaker 4: a Monday edition Off Off the Bench, Taylor Sharps sitting
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  Speaker 4: in the host chair for Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
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  Speaker 4: Both of them will be back tomorrow. I got a
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  Speaker 4: text from MOSCOWO on Saturday saying, hey, can you host
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  Speaker 4: now TV on Monday?
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  Speaker 5: Jake's out. I was like okay. I was like, well,
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  Speaker 5: I was like, I'm good to do it.
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  Speaker 4: What about Matt. He's like, Matt's at the beach, apparently
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  Speaker 4: laundering you that. I didn't know that, but I'm like, hey, man,
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  Speaker 4: shout out, take a beach trip after as he's the
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  Speaker 4: media days. I'm all about it. More power to them.
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  Speaker 4: But they are apparently both back tomorrow. Jake had he
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  Speaker 4: told us he had something to do with the NFL
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  Speaker 4: flag football thing that's going on right now. I think
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  Speaker 4: he's actually probably there right now because he said it
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  Speaker 4: doesn't start till about nine thirty, so he's probably there
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  Speaker 4: as we speak. Okay, look, we were we were sec
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  Speaker 4: football heavy in hour number one. Then we close out
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  Speaker 4: the hour wrapping up at UFC three eighteen, which was
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  Speaker 4: just an electric event out there in New Orleans this weekend.
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  Speaker 4: Coming up this hour Schamarsh Stewart for the Cincinnati Bengals.
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  Speaker 4: Like normally we wouldn't talk a lot of Bengals on
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  Speaker 4: the show, but you do have Joe Burrow, you have
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  Speaker 4: Jamar Chase.
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  Speaker 5: It's somewhat LSU related.
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  Speaker 4: He did not report to camp on Saturday with the
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  Speaker 4: rest of the rookies and he has he is still unsigned,
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  Speaker 4: and neither side seems to be budging one bit. We'll
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  Speaker 4: talk about that a little bit coming up of Ross
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  Speaker 4: Jackson's going to join us at eight thirty preview some
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  Speaker 4: Saints training camp.
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  Speaker 5: We had Nick on Friday.
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  Speaker 4: We wanted to have Ross today, get a little bit
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  Speaker 4: different perspective, and then hour number three, Devin Snow's gonna
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  Speaker 4: jump on. He was also out there at UFC three eighteen.
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  Speaker 4: I'll get his thoughts on that, and then we'll close
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  Speaker 4: it out like we do every day with the bench
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  Speaker 4: right now, though I wanted to move it up a
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  Speaker 4: little bit. It is eight o'clock, it is Monday. It
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  Speaker 4: is now time for weekend winners.
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  Speaker 2: That's how win it has done. That's right. We can't
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  Speaker 2: have anyone freak out out there.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, he's got a k bark. Apologer got too far.
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  Speaker 5: I'm by winning. I went here and I win there.
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  Speaker 3: Now, what are you doing what it takes to win
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  Speaker 3: a championship?
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  Speaker 2: Wow?
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  Speaker 5: Winning?
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  Speaker 6: Well, then I guess there's only one thing left to do.
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  Speaker 5: What's that.
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  Speaker 6: Win the whole thing?
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  Speaker 4: All right, weekend winners every Monday around this time, we
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  Speaker 4: will let our own Alandra Villarriale go first a Landra
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  Speaker 4: winner or loser.
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  Speaker 7: Where we got So I'll start with the weekend loser.
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  Speaker 5: You love, you love the weekend loser, and I respect it.
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  Speaker 5: I respect it the weekend loser.
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  Speaker 2: I think Matt said the other day, like I don't
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  Speaker 2: feel like we do losers enough, and I'm like, I
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  Speaker 2: do the.
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  Speaker 5: You seek them out right, I do them.
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  Speaker 7: At least every week I have a loser.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, sometimes you just gotta I feel like
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  Speaker 2: we need to bring back shame a little more, and
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  Speaker 2: sometimes you just need to be you just need to
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  Speaker 2: call people out for being a loser.
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  Speaker 7: And this week the weekend loser to me is Kelsey Plump.
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  Speaker 5: Why do you hate women? Alunda?
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  Speaker 2: So I hate I certainly hate women so much. I'm
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  Speaker 2: a known woman hater, but I actually think Kelsey Plump
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  Speaker 2: is the one that hates women.
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  Speaker 7: Because so, if.
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  Speaker 2: You missed it, the w NBA all war shirts that
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  Speaker 2: said pay us with you osh I saw, which is
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  Speaker 2: a whole different other beast and of itself, and I
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  Speaker 2: don't know enough to talk about that. I do know
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  Speaker 2: that the w NBA operates at a loss, so I'm
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  Speaker 2: not really sure who owes who, but I'm also not
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  Speaker 2: like an economic person. But anyways, Kelsey Plum. Back to
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  Speaker 2: Kelsey Plum, there was a postgame press conference or just
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  Speaker 2: a press conference where she was talking about it, and
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  Speaker 2: for some reason she felt the.
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  Speaker 7: Need to call out Kitlyn Clark.
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  Speaker 2: So they were talking about the shirts and how they
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  Speaker 2: all had a meeting beforehand to kind of like express
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  Speaker 2: solidarity or whatever, and she was like, not to tattle tell,
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  Speaker 2: but zero members of Team Clark were very present for that.
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  Speaker 7: And I feel like I've.
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  Speaker 2: Seen so many different instances and where Kelsey Plum is
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  Speaker 2: kind of crapping on Caitlyn Clark. And that is so
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  Speaker 2: insane to me, because if there's any reason why the
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  Speaker 2: WNBA owes you anything, or if there's any reason why
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  Speaker 2: people even kind of pay attention to the WNBA now,
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  Speaker 2: not to say that some people didn't before, but like
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  Speaker 2: a lot more people pay attention to the WNBA, and
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  Speaker 2: the WNBA is a topic of conversation because.
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  Speaker 7: Of Kitlyn Clark.
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  Speaker 2: Soh for you to like call her out like that
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  Speaker 2: and call her out all the time, it just screams
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  Speaker 2: hater and it also screams just like I don't even
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 7: Know, but it's just not.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a good look for Kelsey Plum for her
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  Speaker 2: to always, for some reason have a comment about Caitlin Clark,
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  Speaker 2: which is the only reason why the WNBA is even
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  Speaker 2: remotely relevant.
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  Speaker 4: Now, I appreciate you for bringing this up, like it
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  Speaker 4: ain't just Kelsey Plumb either, like it seems like so
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  Speaker 4: many people out there hate on Caitlin Clark, Like jealousy
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  Speaker 4: is a bad look for you people, because.
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  Speaker 5: That's what this is.
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  Speaker 4: If you want the w if you want to be
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  Speaker 4: paid what you owed, guess who's going to bring in
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  Speaker 4: that revenue. Guess who's bringing in more eyeballs than anybody
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  Speaker 4: else in this sport. It's Kaitlyn Clark. You don't have
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  Speaker 4: to like her, but get on board with what she's doing.
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  Speaker 4: She is a tantalizing, polarizing figure. She is coming in
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  Speaker 4: and bringing eyeballs to the sport like never before. Like
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  Speaker 4: they ESPN put out a ratings the other day and
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  Speaker 4: I don't remember the numbers. I don't even know where
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  Speaker 4: you're gonna find the chart, but like the numbers had
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  Speaker 4: spiked incredibly high after Kaitlin Clark got into the WNBA.
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  Speaker 5: It's continued this year.
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  Speaker 4: Like, yeah, if you truly want to advance the sport
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  Speaker 4: of the WNBA, then you should get behind Caitlyn Clark
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  Speaker 4: full force and just go ahead and make her the
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  Speaker 4: face of the league. Like I don't really understand all
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  Speaker 4: this jealousy, Like people are saying, oh, well, you know
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  Speaker 4: you got to.
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  Speaker 5: Earn your keep, Like okay, what have you done? That's fine,
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  Speaker 5: you want to do. You want a.
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  Speaker 4: WNBA championship with the aces, that's fine. I can respect that,
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  Speaker 4: but like, get on board because you can't wear a
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  Speaker 4: shirt that says pay us what you owe as we
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  Speaker 4: deserve more, and the girl that brings in more eyeballs
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  Speaker 4: than anybody else crap on in the media. You can't
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  Speaker 4: do both pick one side of the fence and stay
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  Speaker 4: on it, Paul with your.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, well hold on. Sorry. The other thing that like
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  Speaker 7: kind of bothers me about this too, is that, like.
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  Speaker 2: You know, at the same time, men do crap on
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  Speaker 2: the WNBA all the time, and it's very easy to
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  Speaker 2: make fun of women in sports, Like it really is,
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  Speaker 2: Like I think we can all admit, yeah, like men
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  Speaker 2: will also hate on the WNBA and from right exactly
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  Speaker 2: that and also like the one thing that they'll say
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  Speaker 2: a lot that I see is that like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 2: women are their own worst enemy.
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  Speaker 7: Or whatever, and they're just like proving them right.
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  Speaker 2: So it just it's a bad look for Kelsey Plumb,
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  Speaker 2: it's a bad look for the WNBA. And like she
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  Speaker 2: really it was just a very unnecessary comment. There is
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  Speaker 2: no reason to make it.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody asked her who had more attendance team clerk or
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  Speaker 4: team call here, Like nobody nobody asked that.
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  Speaker 5: Like she threw that out there.
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  Speaker 4: And like to your point, like she kind of his
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  Speaker 4: WNBA's worst enemy at this point because support us. I'm
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  Speaker 4: not gonna support my fellow athletes, but we want you
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  Speaker 4: to support it. So it's just it's kind of a yeah,
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  Speaker 4: kind of contradictory there, Paul O'Neill, Well, we.
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  Speaker 5: Got we got a winner. We gotta lose where we go.
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  Speaker 8: I'm gonna go a week in winner. This is gonna
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  Speaker 8: go to former MLB pitcher Anthony Ianson.
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  Speaker 7: Let's okay.
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  Speaker 8: He was drafted in the third round, eighty seventh overall
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  Speaker 8: by Muso's Boston Red Sox. Yeah, but he signed his
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  Speaker 8: pro deal. He signed for one point seven to five million.
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  Speaker 8: Hell yeah, his slot value for eighty seven overall was
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  Speaker 8: nine hundred seven thousand, so he did sign overslot. He
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  Speaker 8: was ranked third in the NCAA with in wins with
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  Speaker 8: twelve and in k's with one hundred and fifty two.
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  Speaker 8: So yeah, shout out to Anthony Ions and shine that
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  Speaker 8: pro contract.
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  Speaker 7: Let's go love to see it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, shout out to Anthony Ions and left the heartfelt
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  Speaker 4: letter t l issume like that's just class act all
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  Speaker 4: the way around.
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  Speaker 5: We knew that, like you you had heard any interview.
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  Speaker 4: With him throughout the season, Like you you knew how
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  Speaker 4: classy of a guy. Anthony Iinson is like, congratulations to him,
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  Speaker 4: a guy that for whatever reason was under the radar,
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  Speaker 4: like if Kate Anderson is not on LSU's team, like
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  Speaker 4: Anthony Iinson is probably first second team All American like
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  Speaker 4: somewhere in there just underlooked because he wasn't your Friday guy.
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  Speaker 4: But like I always made the point throughout the season,
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  Speaker 4: like to me, it's one A, one B like LSU
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  Speaker 4: has two aces at this point Friday Saturday. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: don't care, like they can both get it done. But
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  Speaker 4: shout out to Anthony Iinson. My first weekend winner is
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  Speaker 4: going to be Scotty Scheffler. So I had to come
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  Speaker 4: to take it or leave it with Beck on Thursday
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  Speaker 4: because Hunt had to roll. They had an early flight
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  Speaker 4: to get back to bed Rouge, and he said, Taylor's
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  Speaker 4: gonna watch any of the Open, take it or leave it.
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  Speaker 5: I left it. Well, turns out I was wrong.
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  Speaker 4: I said down and watch the entire final round yesterday
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  Speaker 4: because I wanted to see Scotty Scheffler.
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  Speaker 5: And Scotty Scheffler dominated.
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  Speaker 4: He finished seventeen under par throughout the whole four day tournament.
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  Speaker 4: He wins the Open it is his fourth major championship.
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  Speaker 4: He's won the Masters twice, he won the PGA Championship,
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  Speaker 4: now he has the Open.
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  Speaker 5: Look.
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  Speaker 4: I like a good sports fun fact and I saw
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  Speaker 4: this yesterday. It was a graphic making the rounds. Everyone's
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  Speaker 4: going to compare Scotty Scheffer to Tiger Woods, right, wrong
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  Speaker 4: or indifferent? If I'm Scotty, I love the comparison. I
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  Speaker 4: know a lot of people say, oh, why do we
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  Speaker 4: I have to compare a guy to guy Tiger Woods
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  Speaker 4: between his first major win and his fourth major win.
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  Speaker 5: So one to four. It was a total of ninety
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  Speaker 5: seven days.
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  Speaker 4: Yesterday mark the one ninety seven day for Scotty Scheffer
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  Speaker 4: between his first Master and his fourth. The comparisons are
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  Speaker 4: going to stay there. Scotti Schefler the most dominant player
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  Speaker 4: in the sport. And like it's weird, you know he
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  Speaker 4: he's a guy that doesn't show a ton of emotion. However,
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  Speaker 4: I loved the emotion he showed yesterday after winning the Open,
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  Speaker 4: he threw his hat up in the air. His little
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  Speaker 4: boy came and ran out with him. He paraded him
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  Speaker 4: around the eighteenth Green holding up the trophy, like we
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  Speaker 4: need more of that. But Scotti Scheffer's almost a boring
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  Speaker 4: golfer because he makes it look so easy, Like you
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  Speaker 4: expect this from Scotty Scheffer, Like he hit it into
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  Speaker 4: the Ralph yesterday. I'm watching and everybody on TV he's like, huh,
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  Speaker 4: there's actually nothing the better of a shot for Scotty
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  Speaker 4: like anybody else. Yeah, and then what does Scotty do?
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  Speaker 4: He hits the ball up with his six iron about
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  Speaker 4: fifteen feet from the hole, Like that's just what Scotty
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  Speaker 4: Scheffler does. Even when he gets in the jam, he
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  Speaker 4: knows how to get out of it. He is playing
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  Speaker 4: at a level we haven't seen in a long time.
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  Speaker 4: Weekend Winter, Scottie Scheffer or anybody else got anything.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I know we talked about it last hour,
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  Speaker 2: but Dustin Poorier, even though he lost that fight, has
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  Speaker 2: to be a weekend winner just based off of like
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  Speaker 2: his send off, it was incredible. So shout out Dustin,
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  Speaker 2: Shout out UFC three eighteen, Shout out to the UFC. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I know, it's a very niche sport and not a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people like it. I didn't really realize that
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  Speaker 2: until this weekend because, like y'all know that, I've always
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  Speaker 2: really really enjoyed it. But UFC is freaking fun and amazing.
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  Speaker 5: It's so weird.
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  Speaker 4: Like I agree with you on given Dustin Poie a
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  Speaker 4: weekend winner, but like, yeah, you always have to give
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  Speaker 4: one to Halloween as well, not because of the fight win,
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  Speaker 4: but because going into it like this was all about Dustin.
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  Speaker 5: Poitier is respectful retirement tour.
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  Speaker 4: He was so respectful, but also like so many people
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  Speaker 4: were like, oh, Dustin's gonna win this fight, like it's
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  Speaker 4: it's set in stone, like this is his like he
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  Speaker 4: was Halloway goes in wins, doesn't brag about it. I
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  Speaker 4: mentioned earlier, like chatting with chatting with Poorier after the fight,
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  Speaker 4: Like as much as you wanted that big fight win
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  Speaker 4: to be about you, he still made the moment about
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  Speaker 4: Dustin Pourrier. Like weekend winner for me has to be
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  Speaker 4: mister Max Holloway.
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  Speaker 5: Paul, I want to.
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  Speaker 4: Ask you this, This has nothing to do with Weekend Winner,
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  Speaker 4: but you mentioned the Boston Red Sox, and this is
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  Speaker 4: something I've thought about a lot. So many people say
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  Speaker 4: the New York Yankees have so many Bandwagon fans, so
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  Speaker 4: I can't be a bandwagon fan. However, I think I
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  Speaker 4: know more Red Sox fans than any other fan base
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  Speaker 4: in the Major League, and the reason is, oh, well,
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  Speaker 4: they're not the New York Yankees. So like so many
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  Speaker 4: people are jumping on the Red Sox bandwagon because they
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  Speaker 4: don't want to be the Yankees. But like, I know,
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  Speaker 4: more just random Red Sox fans than anything I can.
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  Speaker 8: See that I think. I think I personally still still
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  Speaker 8: no more Yankee fans.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I only know two Yankees fans. They
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  Speaker 5: both were Andre and Moscono. If that's it is he,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, your brother. Shout out to mister O'Neal.
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  Speaker 7: No, no shout out.
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  Speaker 4: But it's just weird, Like, I just I see that
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  Speaker 4: a lot, Like people like the Yankees have so many
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  Speaker 4: bandwagon fans. I'm like, but aren't you kind of doing
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  Speaker 4: the same thing just despite the Yankees? Yeah, I just
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  Speaker 4: I just I see that a lot. Everybody I went
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  Speaker 4: to high school with, we're like, why are you.
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  Speaker 5: A Yankees fan?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean they're the they're the I mean, why
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  Speaker 4: are you Red Sox fan? Well, they're they're the Yankees'
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  Speaker 4: biggest rye. Okay, So didn't you kind of just do
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  Speaker 4: the same thing that.
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  Speaker 5: You cas just something I've always thought about. I'm not
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  Speaker 5: not accusing anybody of anything.
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  Speaker 4: Just something i've noticed from afar. Okay, one more weekend
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  Speaker 4: winner from me com Canipple of the NBA. They're there
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  Speaker 4: in the summer league. He took the Hornets to their
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  Speaker 4: first Summer League title, and uh, he's been dominant. He
• 13:54
  Speaker 4: got drafted fourth overall, and there were a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people right after the NBA draft that were like, that
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  Speaker 4: is way too high for Kankinill. He's more of an eight, nine,
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  Speaker 4: ten draft pick. You dropped them at four overall. He
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  Speaker 4: has looked like a stud so far. I understand that
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  Speaker 4: it's summer league, the competition is gonna be better, But
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  Speaker 4: right now that investment by the Charlotte Hornet certainly seems
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  Speaker 4: to be paying off. Conkinable looks like a stud.
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  Speaker 7: All right.
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  Speaker 4: If Nobes someybody else have a weekn winner losing, all right,
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  Speaker 4: well we're gonna take a time out and we get back.
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  Speaker 1: From the locker room to the Airwaves, gets Off the
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  Speaker 1: Bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
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  Speaker 5: Now welcome back in hour number two.
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  Speaker 4: Here on a Monday edition of Off the Bench, Taylor
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: Sharp sitting in for Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn. We
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: got a Landevilla Reale and Paul o'neola along for the
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  Speaker 4: ride as well. Okay, rookie mini or training camp for
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: most NFL teams starting up this week. The New Orleans
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: Saints will be on Wednesday, and to open show, I
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  Speaker 4: mentioned Tyler Shock was the last remaining second round pick
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  Speaker 4: that wanted guaranteed money to get that guaranteed contract at
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: forty overall.
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  Speaker 5: He got it. He's going to.
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  Speaker 4: Report to training camp. Everything fine and dandy on the
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: Black and Gold front. Well, one first round pick is
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: still unsigned, and that is Cincinnati Bengals rookie defensive lineman
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  Speaker 4: Shamar Stewart.
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  Speaker 5: He's unsigned. All the Bengals rookies.
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  Speaker 4: Reported to training camp on Saturday, Chamar Stewart was not
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  Speaker 4: in that number due to an ongoing dispute.
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  Speaker 5: So what it is is.
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  Speaker 4: It's a contract dispute, but it's not over money. So
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  Speaker 4: the rookie wage Scial was implemented in twenty eleven. Stuart's
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  Speaker 4: fully guaranteed contract would be four years, worth a round
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  Speaker 4: eighteen point nine million and about a ten point four
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  Speaker 4: million dollars signing bonus.
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  Speaker 5: Like that's that's set in stone.
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  Speaker 4: That's not really something you negotiate a ton of one
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  Speaker 4: way or the other. Now you could turn something into
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: your signing bonus, have more upfront on the back end,
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  Speaker 4: But as far as like number, that's pretty much set
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  Speaker 4: in stone. The disagreement is over language in Stuart's contract.
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  Speaker 4: So what it would do is trigger the voiding of
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  Speaker 4: his salary guarantees with a breach or a default in
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  Speaker 4: the contract on the part of Stuart. It says the
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  Speaker 4: Bengals want to tighten up the language to remove any
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  Speaker 4: ambiguity over whether all remaining guarantees in the contract void
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  Speaker 4: with a default.
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  Speaker 5: Now you can kind of see both sides of this.
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  Speaker 4: Stuart's camp wants similar language to what Amarius memes the
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  Speaker 4: first round tackle that the Bengals took last year. What
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  Speaker 4: was in his deal. He was actually selected one spot
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  Speaker 4: after Stuart Stewart selected seventeen this year. Mems selected eighteen
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  Speaker 4: a year ago. Now, there's not a ton of detail
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  Speaker 4: on like what the defaults or what the contract breaches
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  Speaker 4: would be on Stuart's part to consider voiding all the
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  Speaker 4: guaranteed money. Look, you can look at it from both sides.
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  Speaker 4: Let's pick on Stuart.
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  Speaker 5: First and then we'll pick on the bingles.
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  Speaker 4: If you're Stuart and you aren't planning on breaching anything,
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  Speaker 4: not a ton to worry about with the language.
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  Speaker 5: Now, I get it.
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  Speaker 4: You want your contract a certain way, you feel you
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  Speaker 4: have earned it. I can respect that to me, not
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  Speaker 4: just Stuart on the part of the Cincinnati Bengals. So
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  Speaker 4: this is an ego issue for both sides. If you're Stuart,
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  Speaker 4: you're like, hey, I want what everybody else got. Why
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  Speaker 4: are you singling me out? If you're the Bengals, it's hey,
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  Speaker 4: we're paying you close to eighteen million dollars on your
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: rookie contract.
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  Speaker 5: You take what we give you.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: I can see both sides, but it's not about money.
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  Speaker 5: Can both sides just get over it?
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: You find some sort of common ground, Like reports now
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: are that the Bengals are not budging and Jamar Stewart's
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: not budget and there is a certain date in twenty
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  Speaker 4: twenty five that if you're not signed, it's sometime in December,
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: you could like potentially apply for some sort of waiver
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  Speaker 4: and like re enter the twenty twenty six NFL draft,
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  Speaker 4: So like that's possibly an option.
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  Speaker 5: I personally don't think he gets there. There's a reason
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  Speaker 5: we haven't seen that.
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  Speaker 4: And then you know, there was a report last week
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  Speaker 4: saying Shamar Stewart he's practicing with Texas A and m like,
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  Speaker 4: is he is he going to try to sue the NCAAA,
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  Speaker 4: And I mean, we know that if you sue the NCAAA,
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  Speaker 4: now you're going to win. Judges hate the NCAAA, and
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  Speaker 4: they were like, oh, if you sue the NCAAA, you
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  Speaker 4: could potentially go back get your final year of eligibility back. Well,
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  Speaker 4: Mike Yelko came out last week and kind of squashed
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  Speaker 4: that notion. He was like, look, he's at our team facility,
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  Speaker 4: using our facility to work out in the offseason. He's
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: not practicing with the team, he's not doing conditioning with
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  Speaker 4: the team. He's doing his own stuff at our facility. Shocker,
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  Speaker 4: Shamar Stewart's not going back to school. I thought that
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: was kind of a load of crap when we first
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: heard it. To me, though, Bingles Stewart, this says a
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  Speaker 4: lot about both sides. The Bengals are terrible at contract negotiations.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: For example, Demetrius Knight, a fourth round picked this year
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: for the Bengals, also still unsigned. You have yet to
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: resign Trey Hendrickson to a long term extension. He wants
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: the money. He thinks he's a you've done next to
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  Speaker 4: nothing to get that contract done. And also maybe they
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: believe there's a reason to be extra cautious with Stuart,
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  Speaker 4: which kind of says a lot about him as well.
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  Speaker 4: Like Chamar Stewart, in my opinion, was a bad pick anyways.
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  Speaker 4: You drafted a guy eighteenth overall based purely on potential.
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't based on hon Field production. In his three
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  Speaker 4: year career at Texas A and m Shamar Stewart sixty
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  Speaker 4: five tackles, twelve tackles were lost, four and a half sacks.
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  Speaker 4: He had four and a half sacks in three years
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  Speaker 4: and went seventeenth overall. Now I get it he's a
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  Speaker 4: little bit more of a run stuffer, but I mean
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  Speaker 4: the production just really wasn't.
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  Speaker 5: It wasn't what she wanted it to be.
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  Speaker 4: Not a guy playing big time college football who's going
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  Speaker 4: to get drafted in the first round. Stuart will sign
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  Speaker 4: at some point because I don't think he has a
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  Speaker 4: choice again. He can sit out and try again next year.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: I don't think he does that. I don't know if
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: the Bengals fold Like I would like to say they
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: come to some sort of common ground, But again, the
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Bengals are so bad at contract discussions and to gociations
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  Speaker 4: that I don't know if the Cincinnati Bengals are gonna
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  Speaker 4: budge on this. Reports are right now that they're not.
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  Speaker 4: But how many time do you see reports this is
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  Speaker 4: this team's hard number. They're not giving a player of
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  Speaker 4: pennymore and then like two days later they give them
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  Speaker 4: like a record breaking contract. That happens all the time.
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  Speaker 4: My advice for the Bengals, though, like, work on this
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  Speaker 4: when you can. You gotta worry about Trey Hendrickson. Two,
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: you gotta re sign this guy. Trey Hendrickson was the
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  Speaker 4: NFL sack leader this year twenty twenty four seventeen and
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  Speaker 4: a half sacks. Oh you want to know what he
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: did in twenty twenty three, also seventeen and a half sacks.
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  Speaker 4: Since he's been in Cincinnati fourteen eight, seventeen and a half,
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  Speaker 4: seventeen and a half.
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  Speaker 5: That's many sacks he's had per season.
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  Speaker 4: So one season with less than double digits, then he's
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: had fourteen seventeen and a half twice. The guy's is
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: stud he is a top five pass rusher in this league.
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  Speaker 5: Pay it.
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  Speaker 4: You just saw TJ. Watt get a huge number. Miles
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: Garrett got a big number. Like all of these guys
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: are signing big time contracts. Don't let Tree Henderson walk
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  Speaker 4: out the door. You've already moved on from a number
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  Speaker 4: of defensive guys.
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  Speaker 5: You should not.
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  Speaker 4: You had one of the worst defenses in the NFL.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Like according to prof Football Reference, your defense was ring
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  Speaker 4: twenty fifth in the NFL last year out of thirty
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  Speaker 4: two teams. Case you're wondering that ain't good. Like how
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: much money did the Bengals have left? Like that's a question.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: A lot of people ask, what's your fault for signing
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: T Higgins? Like, I love T Higgins. I think he's
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: agree receiver. Sending him to a deal that big was
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: a bad move in my opinion.
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  Speaker 5: I get that.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Your starting quarterback comes out, and when Joe Burrow says, hey,
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: you have to resign T Higgins, the team feels like
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: they need to. However, like I get it, Joe wants
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: the weapons to play with on offense. You got to
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: show up that defense. Offense wasn't your problem. My year ago,
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: Burrow put up huge numbers. Jamar Chase is if not
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: the best, then no less than the second best wide
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: receiver in the NFL. Your running game is solid, it's
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: fine with Chase Brown and Zach Moss. Your offensive line's
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: actually getting a little bit better. That's not saying much,
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: but it's getting better. You have to shore up the
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: defense because there were a lot of times last year
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: the Bengals had put up thirty five, thirty eight points
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: and looking for one stop on defense to potentially win
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: a game, and they couldn't get it, and that's why
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: they've missed the playoffs two years in a row. You
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: can't have that happen. You have to re sign Trey Hendrickson.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: You ultimately got to get Stuart done as well. But
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: I want to blame Stuart. I want to be the
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: guy to be like, he's getting eighteen million dollars guarantee.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: You just signed the contract to move on if you're
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: not worried about breaching the contract and the language shouldn't matter.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: But at the same time, the Cincinnati Bengals have a
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: terrible track record when it comes to contract negotiations. Stuart's unsigned,
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Dimitri's Knights, unsigned, Trey Hendrickson's unsigned, not only as Trey
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Hendrickson unsigned. Like all reports come out there, like you
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: offered him a deal a long time ago, and like
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: you refuse to negotiate, Like you're the Bengals. It's not
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: like you're the Kansas ay Chiefs and people are going
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: there to win a Super Bowl. You need all the
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: help you can get. You're not one of the premier
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: franchises in the NFL. You're not a destination spot right now.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: You're lucky you got Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase. They're
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: keeping you about as relevant as you can be. Get
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: it together, Bengals, Get it together, Shimar Stewart, Get this done.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Like you're you're the final first round camp hold out. Like,
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: get it done. It's better for both sides if you
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: get this done. Put your egos inside for a minute.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Get the contract done.
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  Speaker 9: All right.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Look, we're going to take a quick time out. We
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: get back. We're talking about NFL next. We're going back
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: to the New Orleans Saints. I got Ross Jackson have
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: locked on Saints and louisianasports dot Net. He's gonna hop
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: on whether it's get a little training camp preview. That's
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: coming up next. You're on off the bench.
• 24:41
  Speaker 9: Off the bench, you go there, Matthew, heybuddy, all right,
• 24:44
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• 25:30
  Speaker 1: From players to legends, Hester and Flynn breakdown LSU football
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: like only champions can.
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  Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in out number two. Here on
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: a Monday edition of Off the Bench. We're about halfway
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: through our Monday show. We have hit a ton of
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: topics so far. In just a few minutes, we're gonna
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: go out to the Ralse Jackson. He's running a little
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: bit behind. Just got the text from him, so we'll
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: catch up with him in about two minutes. But look
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: Saints training camp coming up. On Wednesday, reopened the show
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: talking about Tyler Shuck. He got the fully guaranteed contract
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: that a lot of these guys drafted high in the
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: second round wanted. It'll be interesting to see the quarterback
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: bat like, okay, hand up. All things equal, I would
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: prefer the coaching staff go with Tyler Shuck. He's a
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: guy that has the potential. They drafted him for a reason.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: But look the two guys that normally sit here. They've
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: hyped up Spencer Rattler a lot in the coming weeks.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: Like my take on Spencer Rattler, he was thrown into
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: a really bad situation last year. It was a makeshift
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: offensive line. You had no weapons or receiver. Everything was
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: kind of all over the place. But at the same time,
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: I think there were plays that Spencer Rattler made. I'm like,
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: you can't make that through, And I get it. You're
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: trying to make a play. You're trying to show what
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: you can do as a rookie. But what I saw
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: from Spencer Rattler was Oklahoma Spencer Rattler, which got him bitched.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: Now again, he was a rookie, he was thrown into
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: the fire. He probably didn't expect to play much at
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: all last season as a rookie. But look, it kind
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: of is what it is at this point. I obviously
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: want whoever to win this job earned it. That's why
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: I was talking at the beginning of the show, like
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: it's important to have shocked just because like, sure, Spencer
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Utler may want to be in a great quarterback, but
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: you don't want to give somebody the starting quarterback job
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: by default because the other guy wasn't there. You want
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: these guys battling and scratching and clawing for every single
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: thing and ultimately let the best man win the job.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: Like that's where we're at right now with Saints training camp.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: Like quarterback battle's gonna dominate the headlines. There's a lot
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: of other spots you gotta worry about as well, Like
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: get everybody in the building ready to go for training camp.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: Speaking of training camp, we're gonna go out to the
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: phone lines right now, our guy Ross Jackson but locked
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: on Saints and writes for our website Louisianasports dot Net.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: Ross, how are you this.
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: Morning, hey man?
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Doing great, doing great?
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: Thanks much for having me, Thanks for your patience.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, thanks for kind of shifting things around. I
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: know it's a busy morning for you, because well it's
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: a busy week for the New Orleans Saints.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: Hrel's training camp coming up.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Look, I was just talking before you hopped on Tyler
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: Shuck now on board the contract situation in the past.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: How do you see this quarterback battle shaken out, You
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: got Rattler, you got Shuck all training camp Loan.
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, look, I think that it's going to be a
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: very good quarterback battle. I think both these quarterbacks performed
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: well throughout OTAs in mini caamp, with since Ratler maybe
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: having the slight edge as a guy that came in
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: with a little bit more experience, more rhythm to his game,
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: all those other things. Right, He's seen the NFL game
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: in the NFL speed already for a few games, and
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: so I think all of that kind of goes in
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: the credit of Spencer Rattler. But look, I think Ultimately,
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: this is a little bit of a little bit more
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: of an uphill battle for Spencer Rattler than it is
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: anything else because of the investment in Tyler Shock and Ahny.
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: We talked about the contract, right, like, the guaranteed contract
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: is really a conversation of like eight percent. He was
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: either going to get one hundred percent guaranteed deal or
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: he's going to get like a ninety something percent guaranteed deal.
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: And so it's not that huge of a difference in
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: terms of what happened versus what could have happened otherwise
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: when it comes to that contract. But I do think
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: that like being drafted number forty overall, being the highest
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: quarterback draft pick in New Orleans in the NFL draft proper,
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: not including the supplemental draft since nineteen seventy one, and
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: if you do include the UMETL draft, okay, then since
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: the nineteen eighties, and he's you know, kind of being
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: called Kellen Moore's guy. It sounds like he was kind
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: of Kellen Moore that identified that this was the quarterback
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: that he liked. And so I think, like, with all
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: that in mind, in this idea of kind of turning
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: the page and shifting to the new regime and shifting
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: to kind of the new era of New Orleans. I'm
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: it's going to be hard to kind of outplay that
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: idea of making that full shift, and so I think
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: it's a tough battle for both these guys because they
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: both have to prove it. And I think that whoever
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: ends about their Week one undoubtedly earned the opportunity to
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: be out there week one. But it wouldn't be surprised
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: if throughout the twenty twenty five season we end up
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: seeing both of these quarterbacks for some amount of time.
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: Rossa.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: All the talk obviously is going to be around the
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: quarterback battle because it's the position with the most eye
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: balls on a ride. But as far as the guys
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: protecting them, the Saints offensive line, we know what it's
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: been in the last couple of years. It's it's been
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: pretty makeshift. But you dropped Calvin Banks in the first round.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: You you're trying to improve that maybe going into training camp.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: What is your level of optimism for this group?
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Look, it's funny. I think that the offensive line
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: is both the source of optimism and anxiety for a
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: lot of day right, you know, it kind of kind
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: of bridges the gap between both of those things because
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: of what's happened in the past, and in particular, you
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: know the injuries and kind of drop off from the
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: starter unit to the backup unit. And look, there's a
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: reason why players are starters and there's a reason why
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: players are backup. There's always going to be some level
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: drop off. But when you got to the point last year,
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: I'm sure you were signing guys on Tuesday to play
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: on Sunday. It was a little tough, right, And so
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: I think that Fort New Orleans really this one, like
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: the sign of optimism around all of it is that
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: I thinks have kind of reshuffled things around, but are
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: still returning four of their five starters from last year,
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: even though two were going to be starting in different places.
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: It feels like there's still a level of continuity there.
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: They get a top ten tackle selection, that was the
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: Outland Trophy winner, that was the Lombardi Award winner, that
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: was a consensus Ald American and Kelsen Banks Junior. Like,
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: there's good talent and a lot of investment there, first
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: or second round picks all the way across the offensive line.
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: But I think that the real source of optimism for
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: this offensive line are the veteran depth pieces that were
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: added this offseason, Dylan Raident's Will Clapp junior Will Clap
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: coming back. I think that both of those guys give
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: you a better kind of emergency turn two should you
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: need to. If there be any injury on the offensive line,
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: then where the Saints were last year, they could continue
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: to build that up. Layel Collins was on this very
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: station talk about how he's had conversations with Kellen Moore
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: and so we'll see what happens there. But I think
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: that really the big thing is the amount of investment
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: that was in there. And this was a team that
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: is showing again that it would rather build from the
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: inside out. But I feel like they were really successful
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: at doing this offseason.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Ross one more on the offensive side of the ball
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: before we switch to defense. R Elsea Jackson locked on Saints.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: What he's saying a sports a dot net joining us
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: right now. Look as far as the receiver position, like
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: your frontline guys, like you know, everybody's like, oh you
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: need more help. Like these guys may not be elite,
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: but you know what they are, like a lave Shaheed Cooks.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: If they can stay healthy, like, they'll be fine. I
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: want to know like the depth behind them, Like is
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: there a guy that you think maybe steps up behind
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: those three?
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm really curious about Cedric Wilson Junior. This year,
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: the last time that he was in a Kellen Moore
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: offense was his best season, over six hundred receiving yards
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: during that time. Took a lot of his snaps from
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: the slot, which I think could help elevate the speed
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: of guys like Chris olave Rashi Jhaheid and Brandon Cook's
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: getting to work a little bit more on the outside,
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: so I'm sure they'll also take snaps in the slot.
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: You got a little bit of an interchangeable, versatile room here,
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: but I think Cedric Wilson Junior would be somebody that
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: could contribute there pretty well. Good blocker as well, kind
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: of helps you expand your offensive line when he's in
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: the slot. I think Donovan Peoples shown this is another
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: one that I would absolutely watch, and he's been away
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: from the game, but he was super impressive during OTA's
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: mini camp. All that and again, a really really solid
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: blocker can contribute in the run game. I think the
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: run game is going to carry is going to be
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: the big focus on this offense because I don't think
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: you're going to put that much pressure on either one
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: of these quarterbacks to go out there and you be
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: the big focus of the offense. I think the run
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: game is going to be a big part of that,
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: and so I think you're looking at who can contribute
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: in that area of the game. I think bub Memes
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: kind of blends the kind of bridges the gap between
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: the guys that can be physical but that also have
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: top end speed like Chris Alavey, reci To Heat and
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: Brandon Cooks, and so I think those six guys make
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: a lot of sense to me. But players like Mason
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: Tipton and Dante Pettis also make a lot of sense.
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: Kevin Austin Junior was in this offense.
• 33:57
  Speaker 7: They've got a couple of.
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: Undrafted free agent guys as well, so they have a
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: lot of ops and to look at at the position.
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: But I think when you have your top three guys
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: being those speed threat guys, those deep threat guys, I
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: think finding the other filling out the room with the
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: other physical players I think makes a lot of sense.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: Shifting over to the defensive side of the ball. Real quick.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: Obviously, you know, the cornerback position is one that everybody's watching.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of uncertainty there. And then you you've
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: heard all all season long, like the name of Sante
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Samuel Junior keeps popping up, like is there any sort
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: of update on him? And if the Saints can't land him,
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: what does that room look like without it?
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't necessarily have an update on him, and
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: we haven't really heard any things about him, but we
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: do know that, you know, there are a lot of
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: teams that are interested that at least have shown some
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: interest and everything, and the you know, Miami Dolphins feel
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: like a pretty natural spot after having traded away Jalen Ramsey,
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: even though a Sante Samuel Junior's dad, a Sante Sanuel Senior,
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: kind of you know, laid in about, you know, the
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: Dolphins organization and everything like that. So we'll see where
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: things go. But I think even if they don't land
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: a Sante Daniel Junior, that the Saints are in a
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: pretty good place when it comes to their cornerback room.
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: It's just a little unproven, right. It's a lot of
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: young players, and so I think you'd be looking at
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: Kulaid mcintry and Alonte Taylor as your locks. They're probably
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: you're starting to on the outside when they're in base sets,
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: so when there's only two cornerbacks on the field, but
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: then when they shift to those nickel sets where you
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: get a third corner on the field, then I think
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: Alonta Taylor moves into the slot. And then the conversation
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: becomes between Quincy Riley, who was drafted this year out
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: of Louisville, who's got that ballwalking, turnover production type of resume,
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: and then Isaac Gadam, who was outstanding with New Orleans
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: the last and then he was here in twenty twenty three.
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: That the conversation comes becomes between those two guys, but
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: who plays opposite Kulaid mcintry on the outside. And then
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: I think Rico Payton is the guy to keep an
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: eye out on because he makes the roster somebody that
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: has both a really strong, you know history already with
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: New Orleans both in defensive production during his preseason last year,
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: but also is one of your top gunners on spec
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: teams as a punt gunner, and that's an important metric
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: or important you know spot to fill opposite J. T. Gray,
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: and so I think maybe those five guys, and honestly,
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: I think if you sign a Sante Sine junior, then
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: you just end up keeping six corners in that way,
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: because I don't think as Sante Segni Junior necessarily leaps
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: any of those five guys in terms of they're the
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: way that they contribute, but I think could be additive
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: to them and certainly would be a good, you know,
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: depth piece to have behind Alante Taylor in that star role,
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: which is going to kind of elevate his kind of
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: disruptive game style play style on the inside when he's
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: in the slot under Brandon Staley and Sante sem Juni
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: has played that position before, so I think that's probably
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: where he would most immediately fit in, though of course
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: he could if signed, earn a much larger role than
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: that as well.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: Ross Obviously, you know, we started this interview talking Tyler
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: Shock Spencer Rattler, So as far as rookies go, like, yes,
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: Shuck's going to have the spotlight on him, but outside
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: of Tyler Shock, maybe like another rookie the Saints brought in,
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: and it could be a draft it could be an
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: undrafted guy like is there a rookie you're keeping an
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: eye on.
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean Kelvin Banks Junior should should be brought
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: up in this conversation. For certain, He's a rookie starter
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: at left tackle, which depending upon who you ask, is
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: the second most important position in football, as the blind
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: side protector for either of these quarterbacks unless one hundred
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: Deckers is playing, then all of a sudden, you know,
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: it becomes the outisite side is the left handed guy,
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: but under the under the circumstances of who's the most
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: likely to be the starting quarterback for Neil Orleans, Yeah,
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: I think Kelvin Banks Junior is the guy that kind
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: of gets the focal point outside of Tyler Shuck. I
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: think the other guy to keep an eye out on, though,
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: that's going to be really interesting, is Danny Stutsman, linebacker
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: coming out of Oklahoma, one of the best rated linebackers
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: in this year's draft bass off ball linebackers in this
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: year's raft class, and comes in and is able to
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: maybe earn that kind of third linebacker role, although I
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: think the fi suol is going to be really hard
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: to push out of that area. But then what happens
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: if he hits the field at some point because of
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: you know, injury or somebody's got to tie a shoe
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: or something like that. How hard is it going to
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: be to keep him off the field. He's a great leader,
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: very vocal guy, very active and athletic player, confrons of
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: so Al America and all these other pieces. Like, I
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: think he's probably one of those one of the most
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: interesting additional players to watch that maybe won't step into
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: a starting role week one because there's only gonna be
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: two off ball linebacker spots of this defense to start,
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: but throughout the season, I think the spotlight will just
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: grow brighter and brighter on him as a potential future
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: piece to this you know, starting linebacker room.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: Before you, Jenna here, let me ask you about one
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: more rookie. I'm glad you brought up Danny Stutzman, Like
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: he's a guy that I'm certainly keeping my eye on. Look,
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: you bring in Justin Reid in the offseason. You already
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: have Tyron there, you already have Jordan Holden there. But
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: like I keep hearing so much about Jonah Sanker and
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: his potential, Like, what do you what do you like
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: about Sanker? You think he has a legitimate role on
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: this team this season.
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he could because of the fact that
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: he can play in so many different areas and that
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: you can deploy him in so many different ways. He
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: can play in the slot, he can play deep, he
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: can play down in the box, he can the middle
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: of the field. There's so many different things that you
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: can do with him, So he becomes this really interesting
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: kind of, you know, defensive chess piece in a way.
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: I don't want to compare him to tast them hill,
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: but like there's such an urge to do that because
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: you could just kind of move him around and use
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: him in three or four different places. But I think
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: that because of that, where he becomes most helpful and
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: where he kind of earns his role probably from the
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: beginning is dime packages. Being able to get him out
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: on the field when you need six Dyv's defensive back,
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: and of course when there is an injury, and so
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: the opportunity to be able to kind of plug and
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: play him anywhere, I think is what makes him so valuable.
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: And then he'll grow into probably a more focus role
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: after that. But I think he was such a smart
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: investment by this New Orleans Saints defense this New Orleans
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: Saints team, just knowing their history and knowing that, like
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: there's players at those positions that might not be on
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: the roster next year, and so you get a guy
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: that can plug into a bunch of different places. I
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: think there's real value there.
• 39:54
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  Speaker 5: Ross, thanks so much for hopping on with me today.
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: Thank you boy, thanks for having me. You'll take care.
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: I'll talk to you soon.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
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• 42:26
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• 42:28
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  Speaker 5: But I'm here with you.
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  Speaker 4: For about another hour or so. We got a Laundervilla real.
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  Speaker 4: We got Paul O'Neill in as well. Thanks so much
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  Speaker 4: just hopped on with us break down all things New
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  Speaker 4: Orleans Saints training camp. I was gonna hit something regarding
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: Ella's shoe here. I want to spend a little bit
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: more time on it, so we're gonna push that to
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: probably nine thirty. Also, I saw a comment in the
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: YouTube chat when me and Ross were talking about Tyler Shock,
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: and I knew it was coming because it happens every
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: time you talk about Tyler Shock's success his last year
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: in college. Well, it's easy for Tyler Shock to have
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: success in college. He's twenty five years old playing against
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: nineteen and twenty year olds. That is just such a
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: bad argument. First off, you're a grown man when you
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: are twenty years old. Being twenty five playing against twenty
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: year olds is a lot different than being eighteen nineteen
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: in high school playing against fourteen year olds. Let's get
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: that out of the way right now. Like we pick
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: and choose so much about who we're going to throw
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: that out there, Like, okay, you remember back in twenty
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: twenty three, Jaden Daniels Bownix, they were battling for the
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: Heisman all year long. Michael pennocks in there as well,
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: what did you hear? Oh, Man, bo Nicks is old,
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: he's been in college forever, Like, of course he's gonna
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: be good.
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: How can you get him the Heisman trophy?
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: Man?
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: Michael Pennock has been in college forever. How can you
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: give him a Heisman trophy? Like I love Jaydon Daniels.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: I'm as big of an LSU fans as I am,
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: but like I can also kind of see the hypocrisy
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: go on that. Like just checked, Bonicks is eight months
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: older than Jayden Daniels. They're essentially the same age. Michael
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: Pinnock's same age as.
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: Both of them.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: Like nobody said it about Jayden. You're gonna bring it
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: up about Tyler Shuck Bownicks and all that. Like that's
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: that's where you lose me, because I don't think it matters.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: Like most of the quarterbacks in college have success their
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: fifth year Dylan Gabriel just let Oklahoma of Organs of
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: the number one ranking and the number one seed in
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: the College Football Playoff. He was a fifth year guy.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: Joe Burrow came here, he broke all kinds of records.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: He was a fifth year guy. Jayden was a fifth
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: year guy. His Heisman season. I just mentioned Bonicks, Michael Penix.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: They were first round picks, like they were fifty year guys.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: Like it doesn't matter, Like I get it. You can
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: go look and be like, Tyler Schuck had seven years
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: of college football, eh, I mean he played thirty games
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: in eighteen. I mean he was hurt and you can say, oh,
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: he had one really good year. Maybe we we really
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: don't know. The only other extended action we saw from
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: Tyler Schuck was twenty twenty when he was at at
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: Oregon his second year in school. Fifteen hundred yards, thirteen touchdowns,
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: six interceptions. After that he played and that was seven games.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: He played four games, got injured, six touchdowns, three picks,
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: seven games, got injured, four games again, got injured.
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: We really don't know. So all this talk about oh.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: Well Pinix, I mean, Tyler Schuck's twenty five years old,
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: of course he's gonna be Good's to say he wasn't
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: gonna be good. Everything else like sixty two twenty three touchdown,
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: six picks, that's a fishing, but like, take the h
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: thing out of it.
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: First, he's a quarterback. It doesn't really matter how old
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  Speaker 5: he is.
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  Speaker 4: They played till they're forty and secondly, like, y, let's
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  Speaker 4: be fair across the board, like get behind Tyler shuck,
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  Speaker 4: don't constantly tear him down and be like, oh, he's
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  Speaker 5: Twenty year olds.
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  Speaker 4: legally you were an adult when you were twenty years old.
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  Speaker 4: Get out of here. That that's an argument that I've
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  Speaker 4: always hated. All right, coming up an hour number three,
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  Speaker 4: straight up, nine o'clock. We're gonna be joined by Devin
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  Speaker 4: snow Hold, the Mayo. He was out there at UFC
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  Speaker 4: three eighteen as well. We'll get his thoughts on that
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  Speaker 4: and maybe preview a little bit of Saints training camp.
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  Speaker 4: We still got a lot of LSU football talk left,
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  Speaker 4: and we're gonna close this thing out like we do
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  Speaker 4: every day, with a little bit of ass the bench again,
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  Speaker 4: this hour very Saints heavy, even talk from Cincinnati Bengals.
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  Speaker 5: But look, we got one more hour left on this Monday.
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  Speaker 4: That's coming up on the other side here on off
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