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"4th out" fiasco, Angels fire Maddux, Breslow's spicy Adley quote, Ump misses crucial Braves challenge · Foul Territory

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: Look at you guys.
• 0:04
  Speaker 2: Wow, would each of you like to tell us what
• 0:07
  Speaker 2: you're wearing today? A Jyears is pretty timely. We're gonna
• 0:11
  Speaker 2: talk about him later in the show since he's coming back.
• 0:14
  Speaker 2: And would you say that Adley Rutchman was the biggest
• 0:18
  Speaker 2: trade headline acquisition. We don't know what it's going to
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: look like after the fact, but the biggest name that moved.
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  Speaker 3: I mean school Oh sorry, biggest biggest position player name
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  Speaker 3: for sure. I mean obviously he's supposed to catch today
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  Speaker 3: in Toronto for the Red Sox. So it feels like
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  Speaker 3: this made sense to wear today.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, it does fout.
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  Speaker 2: Territory shop dot com has that shirt and Kratz, what
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  Speaker 2: do you have for us?
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  Speaker 4: It felt like it made sense to wear the Adley shirt.
• 0:45
  Speaker 4: But you know what, Bryce had a little day off.
• 0:48
  Speaker 4: You know, there's there's other news that has to happen
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  Speaker 4: to and you know what, maybe Adley knows the four
• 0:55
  Speaker 4: out rule.
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: Yep, it's a fun Bryce animated shirt. Very nice.
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: On the topic of the Orioles, we had Dan Duquette
• 1:02
  Speaker 2: on Monday's show, former Orioles general manager, wanted to defend
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: himself and I thought it was a good segment.
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: We have a reply to the reply.
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  Speaker 2: Jacob Calvin Meyer put out the article and wanted to
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  Speaker 2: make it known that the article was not about Dan Duquette.
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: It was just a one liner in there. So he
• 1:22
  Speaker 2: replied to the tweet from foul Territory that said, quote,
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  Speaker 2: it really wasn't a mess because the team had a
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  Speaker 2: lot of good players that they could use for a foundation.
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  Speaker 2: This was Dan Duquette on our show, pushing back against
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  Speaker 2: the narrative that they left the team in disarray. Also
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  Speaker 2: just me commenting for a second, it's been eight years.
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  Speaker 2: You can't use that blame. But let's go to Jacob
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  Speaker 2: Calvin Meyer here. He said, I'd like to thank Dan
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  Speaker 2: Duquette for being a loyal reader of the Baltimore Sun
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  Speaker 2: and for the new nickname. J C. Meyer has a
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  Speaker 2: nice ring to it. I agree the article he's upset
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  Speaker 2: about wasn't about him, but Duquette's tenure in Baltimore was
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  Speaker 2: a success and he should be remembered fondly by fans.
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: I thought that was an appropriate reply, AJ to be like, dude,
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  Speaker 2: not going after you. I did put one thing in there,
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  Speaker 2: and Duqutt had a.
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  Speaker 1: Reply to it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I thought they. I mean, listen, Dukett
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  Speaker 3: defended himself and he should have. He felt like people
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  Speaker 3: were attacking him and he wanted to give his side
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  Speaker 3: of the story. I have no problem with what he said.
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  Speaker 3: And then he came on our show and kind of
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  Speaker 3: elaborated on what he meant by what he said. So
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  Speaker 3: and then Jacob Calvin said it wasn't meant to be
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  Speaker 3: about him, but how could it not be about him
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  Speaker 3: if he was the GM before Mike Elias got there.
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  Speaker 3: So that's why I mean, this was handled appropriately by
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  Speaker 3: all sides. And now we hopefully the Orioles can move
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  Speaker 3: on and try to get a playoff spot.
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  Speaker 1: M hm, right, they're in the mix. Okay, let's try
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  Speaker 1: to do something.
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  Speaker 4: One more thing hold on before we go to this.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, and as much as Duquet yesterday
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  Speaker 3: said what he needed to say, Dan duqutt and always
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  Speaker 3: get Dan and Jim because we have there's too many
• 3:00
  Speaker 3: do cats in baseball, I get them confused, right, Jim Dan?
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  Speaker 3: Tiger fans are attacking me on Twitter. If you haven't
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  Speaker 3: seen my Twitter, they think that I hate the Tigers.
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  Speaker 3: I do not hate the Tigers. Okay, sorry, I should
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  Speaker 3: not have singled out the Tigers and what I meant
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  Speaker 3: by that as any team. It just happened to be
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  Speaker 3: the Tigers who we showed. And I like the Tigers.
• 3:19
  Speaker 3: I love Aj Hinch, I love Scott Harris. I think
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  Speaker 3: they're also what they do okay, so let me just
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  Speaker 3: say that. But I also think that it's not a
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  Speaker 3: good president for baseball for any team that sells to
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  Speaker 3: go make the playoffs. I hope the Tigers do it.
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  Speaker 3: I hope their players play their asses off. I hope
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  Speaker 3: they kick ass. Do I think they're going to catch
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  Speaker 3: the White Sox. No, that's what everyone says. Oh you're
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  Speaker 3: scared of them catching the White Sox. Absolutely not. But
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  Speaker 3: here's the thing. I think it is a bad precedent,
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  Speaker 3: or maybe it's a good president if they make the
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  Speaker 3: playoffs after selling everyone, because it shows that a quote
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  Speaker 3: lower market team can do things. And again, as we've
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  Speaker 3: learned through different people, just making the playoffs is enough,
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  Speaker 3: not actually trying to win the World Series.
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  Speaker 4: Just make the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: All the fan bases are happy, no matter how many
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  Speaker 3: times so Tiger fans. It was not a personal attack
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  Speaker 3: on you. It was just the example because of these
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  Speaker 3: teams that are listed here. The Tigers were the team
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  Speaker 3: that sold the most of the Rangers, the Twins, the Guardians.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we can get into.
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  Speaker 3: The Blue Jays and Orioles, but we really think they're
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  Speaker 3: gonna get there, no, right, So they're the ones that
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  Speaker 3: are the closest. So they're the ones that I use
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  Speaker 3: in this example. So Tiger fans and players and coaches
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  Speaker 3: and front office and managers and everything. Pause, I am
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  Speaker 3: so sorry that I singled your team out.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, that was heartfelt. Can I add to that?
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  Speaker 2: So you know how some are obsessed with run differential
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  Speaker 2: and then I hate it to the highest degree. Do
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  Speaker 2: you know where the Tigers are at with run differential?
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  Speaker 2: And it was that a healthy number at the trade
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  Speaker 2: deadline too, plus eighty seven plus eighty seven run differential.
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  Speaker 2: Expected record for that run differential would be sixty eight
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  Speaker 2: and fifty. They are fifty eight and sixty. Everybody else
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  Speaker 2: they're kind of in the same range with is nicely
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  Speaker 2: into the next negatives, right, Rangers, Twins, Guardians, Orioles, Mariners,
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  Speaker 2: blue Jays, they all have negative run differential, and then
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  Speaker 2: the Tigers are worlds ahead in run differential. AJ, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not saying they shouldn't have traded Terrek Skouble. But if
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  Speaker 2: we're going by a stat that many are obsessed with,
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  Speaker 2: they should be sixty eight and fifty. So they should
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  Speaker 2: look at the rest of the season like, damn, we're
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  Speaker 2: one of the best teams in baseball? Why did we sell?
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  Speaker 2: You can't say anything because he already said his piece.
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  Speaker 4: He's already made peace. He's already made peace. People love
• 5:33
  Speaker 4: aj he killed you as a White Sox, but love
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  Speaker 4: him now as a bipartisan analyst for Fox one. I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, here's the thing. I mean, run differential great.
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  Speaker 3: That means they win a lot of blowouts, but they
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  Speaker 3: lose a lot of close games. It usually means you
• 5:50
  Speaker 3: don't have a very good bullpen. So I mean, we
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  Speaker 3: talked about it yesterday. I mean, I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: else I can say. I'm sorry that I singled out
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  Speaker 3: Tiger fans. They made a run in twenty four after
• 6:02
  Speaker 3: they got rid of Flaarherty and Chafin and Canaan and
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  Speaker 3: they got to the postseason. But the thing that got
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  Speaker 3: me was they think they're a better team now without
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  Speaker 3: Schooble and Casey Mice on their team than they were before.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you're not a better team. Okay, you might
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  Speaker 3: still make the postseason. That'd be awesome, But do you
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  Speaker 3: think you have a better chance if you have schoobl
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  Speaker 3: and Casey Mice and your team to win a World Series?
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  Speaker 3: Because as a player, the ultimate goal, and I can
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  Speaker 3: only speak as a player, I've never worked in the
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  Speaker 3: front office. I've never was a manager, I've never been
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  Speaker 3: a coach. I've just only been a player. Okay, so
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  Speaker 3: you can hold that against me. But the ultimate goal
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  Speaker 3: every year that I went to spring training and tried
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  Speaker 3: to play baseball was not to make the playoffs, because
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  Speaker 3: the playoffs are cool, yes, but it was to win
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  Speaker 3: the World Series. And so if Tiger fans legitimately think
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  Speaker 3: they're a better team if they make the postseason without
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  Speaker 3: school Ble and without Mice, and they think they have
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  Speaker 3: a better shot to win the World Series, and you
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  Speaker 3: know what, let's go Tigers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where you lose me.
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  Speaker 2: I've gotten into some arguments like that where people start
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  Speaker 2: crapping on some of the top players in baseball. I
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  Speaker 2: did plenty of that last week, where people told me
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  Speaker 2: that terror scoopl was not good and you know what
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  Speaker 2: last night, he was just Okay, we'll get to that.
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  Speaker 2: Let's start with counting charge about a one, A, two, A, three,
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  Speaker 2: A four, four outs in a baseball game, Red Sox,
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  Speaker 2: Blue Jays. I don't even know if I'm the guy
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  Speaker 2: to start to describe this. Besides the fact that AJ
• 7:31
  Speaker 2: we had the wrong number of outs placed on the scoreboard,
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  Speaker 2: which is run by Major League Baseball. It's not like
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  Speaker 2: a team thing trying to rig this system. This happened
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  Speaker 2: in Toronto. John Schneider was flipping out because the Orioles, sorry,
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  Speaker 2: the Red Sox ended up getting a run out of
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  Speaker 2: this despite neither of their base runners knowing how many outs.
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  Speaker 2: So Saddan rafaela pop up turns into an RBI even
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  Speaker 2: though we thought the inning was over because the screen
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  Speaker 2: said two outs, there was only one out. So your
• 8:00
  Speaker 2: thoughts on how all of this resulted and the fifteen
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  Speaker 2: minute delay during that game while they chatted with New
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  Speaker 2: York City and the command center about.
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  Speaker 4: It, here's going first, merecrats you.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, First of all, I did not know this rule,
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  Speaker 3: So I'm glad this happened because now I know this
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  Speaker 3: rule and anyone maybe there's somebody maybe Crofts knew this rule,
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  Speaker 3: but I've never heard of this rule, and so I
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  Speaker 3: would have not known what was happening on the field.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't think a lot of the players coaches.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess somebody knew the rule, and umpire
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  Speaker 3: Chad Tracy maybe knew the rule. But the scoreboard had
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  Speaker 3: two outs, Okay, now there had only been there had
• 8:38
  Speaker 3: been one out and two base runners.
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  Speaker 4: No one had scored. It hadn't been that long of
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  Speaker 4: an ending.
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  Speaker 3: How does every person on the field umpires play. I
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  Speaker 3: guess the umpires knew the rule, players, base runners, coaches
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  Speaker 3: not know there was only one out at this point.
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  Speaker 3: That's the part that I don't understand, even if it
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  Speaker 3: says to us. I know, when I was catching, there's
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  Speaker 3: many times I'd look up and say to the umpire
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  Speaker 3: behind me, how many els are there? Because I only
• 9:00
  Speaker 3: got one out? But it says two outs on the scoreboard,
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  Speaker 3: where are we at here? And you'd stop it and
• 9:05
  Speaker 3: they go and they'd say, okay, we only have one out,
• 9:07
  Speaker 3: and you're like okay, and then they'd hand up their
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  Speaker 3: hand and go one out, or they get on the
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  Speaker 3: microphone and I will say this about Chris Guccioni, who
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  Speaker 3: was the umpire last night. He did an outstanding job
• 9:15
  Speaker 3: of explaining what was actually happening. Multiple times he got
• 9:18
  Speaker 3: on the microphone, which I wish we had more of.
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  Speaker 3: So guccu did an awesome job as an umpire and
• 9:23
  Speaker 3: as somebody explaining because I was watching this live and
• 9:25
  Speaker 3: I had to rewind it and say, Okay, can I
• 9:27
  Speaker 3: see this again because I don't know what's going on.
• 9:29
  Speaker 3: The Other part of this is John Schneider came out
• 9:32
  Speaker 3: and said, oh, well, not everyone was off the field,
• 9:34
  Speaker 3: but if they showed the behind the home plate, they
• 9:36
  Speaker 3: all got off the field and nobody realized it until
• 9:39
  Speaker 3: it was too late, and then it was too late
• 9:41
  Speaker 3: for them to appeal, so the run counted even though
• 9:43
  Speaker 3: he didn't tag up. I didn't know this rule. It's
• 9:46
  Speaker 3: cool to see it happened and play out because you
• 9:49
  Speaker 3: learned something, But how do you not know how many
• 9:52
  Speaker 3: outs are? I mean, we all forget at a time,
• 9:54
  Speaker 3: but everybody on the field to forget that was pretty epic.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're just leaning on the scoreboard which said two outs.
• 11:01
  Speaker 4: Even the pitcher and catcher, base runners, everybody, third base coach,
• 11:05
  Speaker 4: even Eppie was a third and he was just you know,
• 11:07
  Speaker 4: he was taking the helmet. He was like, good, waituh,
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  Speaker 4: what I did know this rule. And the only reason
• 11:14
  Speaker 4: I can prove that I know this rule was because
• 11:17
  Speaker 4: on MLB dot Com, AJ texted our thread and it
• 11:20
  Speaker 4: said new rule alert in the Red Sox game. So
• 11:25
  Speaker 4: I went to the Red Sox game and the only
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: video they had was the video of the flyball because
• 11:31
  Speaker 4: they were still in like deliberation or whatever the flyball
• 11:34
  Speaker 4: and seeing the runners run and they threw the ball
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  Speaker 4: to first and that's when the video cut off. No commentary, nothing,
• 11:42
  Speaker 4: And I told my sons were there and I go,
• 11:44
  Speaker 4: I bet this is a four out rule and they
• 11:47
  Speaker 4: were like, what, There's no way there's such a thing.
• 11:50
  Speaker 4: So I love the fact that I knew this role.
• 11:53
  Speaker 4: I love the fact that I had no idea when
• 11:56
  Speaker 4: the play is actually dead though, because did everybody crossed
• 12:00
  Speaker 4: the line? Does that make the play? What if the
• 12:04
  Speaker 4: center fielder was still was still on the other side
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  Speaker 4: of the line. Could he have taken the ball that
• 12:11
  Speaker 4: was rolled to the mound and gone and stepped on first?
• 12:15
  Speaker 4: Was he or gone and stepped on third? Was he
• 12:18
  Speaker 4: the only eligible player? I don't know, but I did
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  Speaker 4: know the role. So it made me sleep really well
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  Speaker 4: at night.
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: Wow, you're the rules expert.
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  Speaker 4: Then I mean, I just knew this one. I knew it.
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  Speaker 4: I've gotten others wrong. I knew it because it's a
• 12:32
  Speaker 4: timing play, and it's if you know the minutia of
• 12:35
  Speaker 4: the rule, like the very like timing plays are different
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: than automatic or they're not called non time, and I
• 12:43
  Speaker 4: forget exactly what they're even called. And so it just
• 12:46
  Speaker 4: it matters like when did the when was the out recorded?
• 12:49
  Speaker 4: Did they did they touch home plate before that? Like
• 12:52
  Speaker 4: those types of things. And I knew it fell in
• 12:54
  Speaker 4: whether I read it in the rule book or I
• 12:56
  Speaker 4: read it as an example, like would there ever be
• 13:00
  Speaker 4: four outs in an inning? And I remember reading it
• 13:02
  Speaker 4: and saying, that's crazy. How would that ever come up? There?
• 13:07
  Speaker 4: It is big league.
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: Games, And for any frustration that Blue Jays fans had,
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: it quickly went away. They won the game. The Red
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: Sox got a run, but that was the only run.
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: They lost two to one. Let's get John Schneider, blue
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: Jays manager, post game.
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  Speaker 5: Before the out is recorded at first, the run counts. Now,
• 13:24
  Speaker 5: if we had just thrown a ball a third instead
• 13:26
  Speaker 5: of first, obviously different story. To my knowledge, Boston did
• 13:31
  Speaker 5: not challenge the time play. The inning was deemed to
• 13:35
  Speaker 5: be over. Charlie Ramos waved off the run, so everyone
• 13:40
  Speaker 5: assumed that that was that right, so we can appeal
• 13:44
  Speaker 5: that if if we stayed on the field to appeal
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  Speaker 5: to third and then challenge the play where he didn't
• 13:51
  Speaker 5: tag up and that would have negated the run, and
• 13:54
  Speaker 5: no one was given that opportunity to do so based
• 13:57
  Speaker 5: on reaction from the four umpire players And yeah, it
• 14:03
  Speaker 5: was it was confusing first time for me, but I
• 14:06
  Speaker 5: think the rule is the rule, and it was just
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: tough because they didn't challenge the play initially. It happened
• 14:14
  Speaker 5: in the middle of an England Morne's coming into warm
• 14:16
  Speaker 5: up and I think players just react. Players and coaches
• 14:20
  Speaker 5: and managers react to what is being said to them.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 5: So, after consulting with MLB, they told me that all
• 14:27
  Speaker 5: of my players were across the third base line before
• 14:31
  Speaker 5: before Charlie waved off the run, which I disagree with.
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: I don't know if that is that fast after he
• 14:39
  Speaker 5: got the ball at first, so we weren't given an
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: opportunity to appeal to third and going forward, when that
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: play happens again in the next one hundred years, if
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: it's us, we will record these meat out at third.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: Sorry, everyone needs to stay on the field longer.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: Now, everyone needs an how many outs are? At least
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: one person on the field needs an how many outser
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, and I'll say this, for most players, they
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: would have thought, and I guarantee you. I mean Kratz
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: is just apparently the only guy on earth that knows
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: this rules by the umpires, But every guy would have
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: thought the inning was over as soon as they got
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: the third out of third. They wouldn't even have worried
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: about going to third base because or at first, Sorry,
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: when they got the third out at first, everyone on
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: the field, I guarantee you ran off the field. Even
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: the umpire threw the ball to the mound and it
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: was on the mound. So as a player, you think, oh,
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: we got the third out, that run doesn't count because
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: he didn't tag up either, not thinking in your mind,
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: oh man, I gotta we gotta throw it to third.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: So it's hard to blame anybody in this situation. It's
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: a once in a million years play that happened, and
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: everybody on the field screwed it up. Just a weird play.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: There's no blame to go around. It was just to
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: screw up by the whole baseball.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: Game, but by a day. On that play. Let's say
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: let's say the runner of third, was it see at third?
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: Anthony Siegler. I'm not sure who was, but anyway, he
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: was at third. If he had tagged up and scored,
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: you at catcher would have been doing what as that
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: ball is getting thrown in to Vlat at first, what
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: would you have been doing? No, because it wouldn't.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: It would have changed the whole the whole rule of
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: the play because if he's out at first, it's a force.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: So I'm just like, throw it to first because he's
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: out in the run, doesn't score.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: No, But I'm saying, so it's a it's a fly
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: ball to center, just like it was. He's throwing it
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: to first and you're seeing, you're seeing the runner from
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: third coming home. What are you doing? Are you just like, hey, good,
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: you got him out at first, or are you looking
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: and being like no, no, no, he didn't score before
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: he does that out of the force. It's a force.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: It doesn't happen. It's not a force. It's not a force.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: It's he has to tag up or he's out. The runner.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: I'm saying the runner at third tags up. If the
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: case was the runner a third tags up, the runner
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: at first did not tag up. If they lobb it
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: in to first and that runner at third tagged up
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: and he scores beforehand, you would be you would be like, oh, yeah,
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: that run scored if he If that ball is thrown
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: to first and it beats the runner back to or
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: it beats the runner that's going home, there that's a
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: timing play, you know what I'm talking about? Like, are
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: you sure that's right? Because I think that's still considered
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: a force now a hundred percent. It's the exact same
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: as like a runner on second who dogs it going
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: home and some of the batter runners the runners forced
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: at first. It's a timing play. Any sac fly is
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: a timing play.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, I mean yeah, I would have I would have
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: still thought that since the runner at first is out,
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter when they guy on third scores, So okay
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: either way, Yeah, I mean, I I mean, I thought
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: I knew most of the rules, but apparently I don't
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: know these couple rules. But I always thought, if you
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: get the guy out at second or first, it doesn't
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: matter what the other guy does, because that guy still
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: has to tag up and out before the run scores.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: No, not that. That's why it's considered one of the
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: timing plays.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah know how many outs? AJ said he never knew.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: He never didn't know how many outs. I think you
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: said the same thing. So we just had brain fart
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: city for twenty minutes, I guess because it was a
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: fifteen minute delay here to figure all of that out.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: One footnote on that game too, Jameson Tyne pitched well,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: it was a tight game, low scoring. Exited for him,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: discomfort another Blue Jays arm unfortunately going down. We'll see
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: what the word is on him. I just want to
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: make sure we keep giving love to the Rays. They've
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: won seven in a row.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: AJ.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: They were down what six to two in the eighth inning,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: and then they just poured it on in that inning,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: ended up winning ten to six over the listless A's.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's not the right word. I don't even know
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: what it means, but bad A's it is.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: Were terrible.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: I thought they would have actually have a shot at
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: playing for a UH playoff spot this year, and they
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: got off to usually they were really bad in the
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: beginning of the year, and they played really well in
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: the second half of the year. This year, they're just
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: they were pretty good in the beginning. They remember they
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: were in first place out in about June, and now
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: they just are awful. So yeah, I don't know what's
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: wrong with the age. I feel bad for marcottsee, but
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: you know they got rid of their GM though, so
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: that was that was cool.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: I mean it looks like this is this is sponsored
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: by Keith and I think last year of the race
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: might have been affected by the heat a little bit
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: more little hydration that they might have needed. Like maybe
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: they weren't as bad as what they played because they
• 19:33
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• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Quints. But who's counting.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Liam Hicks has been awesome in a week of ball
• 19:44
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• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I think that's going to be a help having a
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: great year at the play.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Having a great year. If you haven't google his numbers
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: googles and his RBI totals off the charts. I mean,
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: he's he can hit, he's played a little first for him,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: he can catch a little bit of DH's for him.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: I mean he adds to Camonaro, Ronda and the rest
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: of that crew at the top of their order, which
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: they get a little more production from the bottom of
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: their order. They got some guys that need to step
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: up a little bit. But the Raiser are a good
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: team because they can pitch and they always figure out
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• 20:21
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• 20:24
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• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Gonzalez on the five innings that he went three runs
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: ninety five pitches, he said command was sorely lacking. This
• 20:33
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• 20:35
  Speaker 2: hitters that Schoogle put in two strike counts, two singles,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: two box, one hit by pitch, one home run, six strikeouts,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: four batted ball outs. I mean, I don't know the
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: exact percentage of how much he's converting into outs or
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: strikeouts on two strikes, but it's definitely better than what
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: he put together last night.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: So the two strike command wasn't what you would usually
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: see aj from Terrek Scoople.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: I mean it was they still won the game, right,
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: So that's at the end of the day, that's kind
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: of what it's all about. Yeah, he hasn't been great,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: he hasn't been perfect, but I mean he's switching a
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: new team. He switched teams for the first time in
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: his career. It's gonna take him a little bit. I'm
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: sure he was a little bit nervous early in that game. Uh,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: probably a little bit hyped up to start in front
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: of his new home crowd. So I'm not making excuses
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: for Troch schoobl It's just one of those nights. He's
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: pitching against the Royals a lot and they still won
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: the game, So we'll see how it goes down the stretch.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's crazy. He has made a lot of starts.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: In those starts since twenty twenty, his team is five
• 21:35
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• 21:38
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• 21:41
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• 21:44
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• 21:48
  Speaker 4: let's get into the division he's stole. This is the
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: first time he's been to LA as a home player,
• 21:52
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  Speaker 2: But the game was decided in the first inning. There
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• 23:44
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  Speaker 2: people are like, hey, Sean Murphy missed that right that
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  Speaker 2: someone pops up on the screen, Bryce Elder actually calling
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  Speaker 1: And in this case, I think the umpire just missed it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one of the problems we need to
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  Speaker 3: If Bryce Older, I mean, he just threw a pitch,
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  Speaker 3: He's getting out of the way of a throw from
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: his catcher, the catcher comes up, throws it down there,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: He's not going to immediately tap his head, right. Bryce
• 24:37
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• 24:40
  Speaker 3: umpires need to get together and say, you know what, Okay,
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: let's give it a little bit of gray speriod because
• 24:45
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• 24:53
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• 24:54
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• 24:57
  Speaker 3: him a minute, but if it happens in the middle
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: of all this boom boom, this is one of the
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: biggest arguments I have against robot umps. And people say, oh,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: robot MPs. And we've seen this happen this year already.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: A guy thinks he's walked, right, but they challenge it
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: and it's actually strike three and the catcher throws it
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: down there and the guy's tagged out and he's called out. Right,
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: if it's a robot ump, we have to wait that
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: split second the catcher comes up. Let's say he throws
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: it into center field and the guy is you know,
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: it's not a walk, and then the guy gets to
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: go to third right, whereas the catcher if he knew
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: how many times scratch is a catcher? Did you hear
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: ball four? And you just ate it real quick, right,
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: You're like, oh, I don't need to throw this ball.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: So because i'd always ask the umpire on three two, hey,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: give me a really quick call here, so I know, like,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: please give me the quickest call so I don't throw
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: this ball away and if he's going but yeah, it's
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: just common sense, like human decency, common sense, whatever, you
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: want to call it umpires, just think about it for
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: a second, get together and say, you know what, he
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: did tap his head in a timely fashion. There was
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: a lot happening. Can we go back and look at it.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: But everyone has to say, oh, no, we didn't see it.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: We didn't see it.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Someone saw it.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be a problem in the playoffs
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: if that's the case and someone's like, oops, I missed it,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: and it results in that like that was the game.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: The game was decided in the first inning of that
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: matchup and creed. Some people online were like, well, Elder
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: has to like show it more. No he doesn't. He
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: went like this period that means challenge.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Here it is. We're watching, this is we get to
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: see it.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: This is the pitch delivered.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: I haven't even counted to one and he already tapped
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: his head. What else do you want him to do?
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: And that's a I mean, that's a good Like, this
• 26:34
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• 26:36
  Speaker 4: go back. If you're listening, you gotta go back and
• 26:38
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• 26:40
  Speaker 4: sooner than that, you're cooked. But also at the end
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: of the video, watch the third first base umpire. I
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: think it's Adam Hamari is looking at the throw. In
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: a second, I think they're going to start talking to
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: umpires about, you know what you if you're not involved
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: in the play, Because the first base umpire has no
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: bearing on the runner stealing other than maybe some type
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: of obstruction interference of any kind, which never happens on
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: stolen bases. Maybe that's where they're gonna have to say,
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: you have to be watching that, like they have to
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: make the adjustment here because the umpire can't see it.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: Sean Murphy's like six or five, he's standing up and
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: throwing down the second he's also making the call. It's
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: so hard for anybody to see that. So I get
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: that the human error is there, but like AJ said,
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: we need you to use some common sense too.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm yeah.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Even I guess Bryce Elder postgame was saying I need
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: to be more demonstrative or something along those lines.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I guess.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: But like now we're gonna have, you know, then then
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: guys are gonna be doing too much, and then the
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: umps are gonna get pissed off.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: You're overdoing it, right, then.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: You're gonna have Jeffery yawn out there jumping around and
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: doing splits like on strike threes.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: So I mean, let's be careful what you wish for.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: A kid did that. A kid did that in my
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: son's travel game the other day. I don't think the
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: kid ever pitched. Oh he got a strike out and
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: he did you know, he did the Jeffrey Young. I
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: don't think the kid ever pitched, and he was getting waffled,
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: so I think everybody laughed about it.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: But fun well for the Mats. Yeah, Coode Sanga picked
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: up the save. Devin Williams on the ail By the way,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: mensar irrelevant, So I'm not spending much time there. I
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: do want to just sneak in some He.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Did throw his ball into the stanza, which was always
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: pretty pretty funny.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: That was funny. Is he supposed to keep it for him?
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: His first save, the first save?
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you'd want that. Why would you not want that?
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: That's kind of cool. I got a big league save.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: It's like a big league hit, big league win, big
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: league strike got I got my first pick.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: You ever did that? Did you ever do that? Age?
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Accidentally throw a ball away? That was like somebody's record
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: of some kind or something. No, but my dog.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Did he Jason Schmid's thousand strikeout ball or a hundred
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: win ball or something one time?
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Oh, I don't have it.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: There, Uh, but I did see one Yaribay. We turned
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: to triple play one time Minnesota and he threw the
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: ball in the stands. So we had to get it back.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: So that was awkward. We had to ask the guy
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: for BACKA one didn't realize what he had just done.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: So like Kwan, cool, but we need that ball back.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: So we all had to go out there and you know,
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: I'll give you a bat or whatever for and got
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: was nice about it.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: But it happened. It's happened.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: That's good.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Some quick injury notes on the braves because there's a
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: lot to look at here. We can just rack these
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: few in a row and then we'll get the comment
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: on the back end from it. So first off for
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: and this is all pitching related. Walt White said he
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: can't count on Strider or Hurst and Waldrup pitching again
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: this year, but both well at least started throwing program
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: this week, and Mark Bowman from MLB said this at
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: least encouraging regarding the possibility of them being available next season.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Waldrip got multiple opinions regarding his elbow of the past
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: few weeks. A recent opinion led to the decision for
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: him to begin throwing this week. Stephen Colbert, a R Dude,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: also replied to that and said Spencer Schwellenbach is still
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: not facing hitters, is pretty much ending that dream of
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: any sort of contribution in twenty six not impossible, increasingly unlikely.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: All I shifted to Robert Suarez, who's been out almost
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: eight weeks now and apparently is still sore. And then
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: there was one more update this morning that involved Strider
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: and let's see who the other one was, and Waldrop
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: that they will begin throwing programs this week. As we've
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: seen with Schwellenbach, doesn't mean they're nearing a return, it's
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: at least encouraging that this next step is not surgery.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: So these are some names that could be pretty big contributors.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: And then the Braves have been fine and they're humming
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: along right now. Ever since Akunya came back, they're really
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: humming along, putting together wins, but just talking about some
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: potential returns for them. We might do a segment later
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: this week on guys that could come back for teams
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: and how it could impact them. Of course, Aaron Judge
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: is an easy one, but these are some pretty good
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: names AJA that suddenly not suddenly, but might not be
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: a part of the mix for the rest of the year.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, have they been counting on them though? I
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: mean the Braves. I don't think the Braves have been
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: really counting on them. They knew this internally. Now they're
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: just saying it publicly. They know where they know where
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: everyone stands internally. I mean, trust me, as players, you're
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: always like, hey, you see somebody if they show up
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: at the park, like hey, when you're coming back, you're
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: coming back.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of hey, you're not coming back this year, Okay, cool,
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: see you next year.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Seeing spring training, I mean, in my wrong crowds, it's
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: like people, if you're not part of the team. This
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: is why people say being on the injured list sucks
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: so bad, especially when you're on it for so long,
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: because if you're not part of the team, and this
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: sounds really bad, you're not treated like part of the team.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: You're just not because there's guys that are grinding it.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Yes you're nice to the person, you say hi to them,
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: but you're not really part of the team because guys
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: are like, oh, well, he's hurt, so why am I
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: going to waste my time? And I hate to say that,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: but that's just the way it is.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: You're in the grind. You're in the grind every day
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: playing like these guys are coming in, they're trying to
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: stay out of the training room. If they're in the
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: city that you're in. They don't go on road trips. Yeah,
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: they've they've moved on. Would they love to have Strider back,
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: would they love to have Swell and Bob back Walldrip? Yes,
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: But I think the Braves are in a Their new
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: reality is they're going to lean on Chris Sale and
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: they're ridiculously I think there's still number one bullpen in
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: the game. And the reality is, I think they can
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: cruise to they cruise to their division. It's a matter
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: of how close can they get to having that second
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: that that buy in the first round, because I think
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: the rest of the National League East just doesn't really
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: care that much and a team like this that is
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: an older lineup needs their breaks.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Hey, quick minute or two on the patres. They picked
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: up a big win over Milwaukee yesterday. Also, Mike Petrello tweeted,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: one day we'll get the full story of why Fernando
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Tatis Junior closed up his stands so much the first
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: two months of the year before opening it back up.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: And since June one, his numbers are so much better.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: There's so much more pop. There's really kind of less
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: to all fields and more pull power from him. Not
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: to mention, Jackson merl is on fire in the second
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: half of the season and had the bake home run
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: op Logan Henderson in the seventh inning. That is the
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: difference maker in that one. Mason Miller picked up his
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: thirtieth save. So there's a lot.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Going on here, but mostly good things for the Padres.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Aj yeah, but but but Logan Henderson is the best
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: pitcher of all time and they're so happy they kept
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: him instead of getting to school, So sorry bur fans,
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: but yeah, the Padres are playing great. The Padres are
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: not in the postseason right now, though, which is amazing.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: They're one game behind the Diamondbacks and the Phillies, so
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: there's still work to be done. But if listen, if
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Tatis hits, Merril hits, Machado hits, they're gonna be pretty good.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: Because I do like their pitching.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: But the fact that Fernando Tatis still I think he
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: only has six home runs, even though that's the last
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: thirty games. They've all come in the last thirty games,
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: it's still pretty eleven eleven Sorry, okay, sorry, but he's
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: still He was supposed to be a thirty to forty
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: homer guy. That's what they paid him. Like, so whatever
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: he changed, stick with this, Fernando. Just my advice, stick
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: with whatever you're doing now. Don't go back to the
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: other way. And every time he hits a homer, I
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: get it. I get a message or two or twenty
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: on Twitter called the spade a spade just saying like
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: Tatis is getting hot, Like all right, yep.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Well you know the rules all right.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Time for a little seakeek look ahead to what's going
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: on tonight and in the future. I have one rule
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: for you guys. You can each pick a game, but
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: you cannot pick the Adlie Ritchman return. Why because we're
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: about to talk about it in the next segment, So
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: you have to hold that one. And also, yeah, people
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: know they know at this point we've already mentioned it.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Anything else you want to throw out there, I have
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: one in mind.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: I mean Tiger's Guardians.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: That's a good one.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: It's important playoff game, you know, I mean Drew Anderson, Tanner, Biby,
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: it's a big game for telling me if they're going
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: to stay in this race and if someone needs to
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: win this series or sweep it.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: Yankee Seattle, Yankee Seattle. The Yankees have a chance to,
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: in my opinion, eliminate the Mariners from playoff contention. They
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: may be eliminated. I mean, there are three there are
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: three plays. Let's put it this way. If you get
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: swept in this series, if you're the Yankees and you
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: get swept, or you sweep them and then come scept
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: come October, the season's coming down to Okay, now the
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: first round you're gonna play. Second round, you're gonna play
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: the Mariners. And you're like, in August, we could have
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: put them down, we could have swept them in a
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: three game series. I'm just saying there's a chance.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're still standings.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: Four out, four out right now.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: The Blue Jays are ahead of the Mariners.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: A lot of teams are ahead of the Mariners. That's
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: what I mean. This is this is big. Yankees gotta
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: face Woo that the Mariners have to go into Yankee
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: Stadium like that's it's a bigger series.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: And who's pitching on the road. Don't worry, don't worry
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Yankee fans. Who's pitching on the road. Sorry, check the numbers.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: I ain't kidding. Check who's numbers. He cannot pitch on
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: the road. He can't pitch on the road.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I've got one more on our way out here. Paul
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Skeen's pitching tonight for Pittsburgh. I kind of feel like
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: they're on life support. Like on a Paul Skeen's day
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: against Miami.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: You got to win.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Pirates have to put something together here National League and
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: as easy and you know Pittsburgh's been playing may lately.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Time to pick it up.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, code for you see geek if you want to
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• 36:37
  Speaker 2: one that you might want to check out. We're about
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: to talk about it with some spicy quotes from Craig
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Breslow coming up.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: That's what he said, That's what he said. That's what
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: he said.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: That's what he said.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Hey, Adley Ruchman is going to be a thing for
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: the Red Sox in Toronto against the Blue Jays, making
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: his debut tonight. For Craig Breslo, I'll take a little
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: piece of this and then we'll talk and I'll give
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: you more of the quote coming up. But he said
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: that roster mix sounds pretty bleep and sustainable to me
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: doing an interview, a little back and forth about trading
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: for him and the amount of players that he had
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: to give up to me aj And you know, Craig,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: you played with him, right, I have that right, Okay.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: I think that he has evolved very quickly over the
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: course of this season. I think that he was getting
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: labeled as too mechanical, and remember there were stories coming
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: out that he wanted to connect more within the organization
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: with players, etc.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: And I'm seeing it through quotes. I'm not in Boston
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: every day.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: They certainly won't give me access up there, but I
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: can see it through his quotes, the way he's talking
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: more like a human and more like a gunslinger. I
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: think is connecting with fans up there, and he's putting
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: his money where his mouth is with an acquisition like this.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: I agree.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: I think he's like basically saying screen and this is
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: how I'm running the team. And I changed my mind.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: We're going for it because they got hot, and good
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: for him. You have the ability to do this as
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: a general manager. I like Craig. I love playing with Craig.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: I played against Craig for a long time. Then I
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: got to play with him with the Red Sox, so
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: I really enjoyed him. And again, here's the thing. People
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: that are saying, oh, well, they paid too much for
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: him depends on who you ask. Because we asked Jim
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Boden about this trade. He didn't really love the players
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: they gave up, so it's internal. It's internal evaluations, like
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Jim said, and internally evaluated. They thought Aliy Rutchman was
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: more valuable than the players they gave up, so they're
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: going for it. So good for you, Craig for standing
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: up for yourself, and we'll see what happens.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: I have the longer quote too, before Kratz times in,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: so he explained this is Breslo explaining to Alex Spear
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: why he didn't see the Rutchman deal as a compromise
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: when it came to building a sustainable long term plan.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: So this is where I'll reiterate what I said before,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: but theny of you more. He said that right makes sense,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: pretty bleep and sustainable to me. It's one thing to
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: make a trade like this and say it's this year
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: or bust. It's another catcher is in need we had
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: If we didn't solve that need right now, we're going
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: to have that need in the offseason, or we're going
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: to have that need at the next trade deadline. This
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: is an opportunity for us to improve the team while
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: also having this position player, corps, starting rotation, and bullpen
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: that is going to be around for a while. So
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: that's the full quote Kratz to talk about how this
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: isn't just a rental. This is a guy who will
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: be with the team next year and guess what, if
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: they like him, they'll be able to re sign him
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: to or well, I don't want to say that for sure,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: he's close to free agency, but if they like him enough,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: they can try to push some money his way to
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: see if he wants to be there long term.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's what's been said about Adlie Rushmand
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: for his entire career. Franchise type of cornerstone catcher. You know,
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: the Orioles didn't think so they got rid of him.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: And if he used the F bomb, then Boston fans
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: will definitely be excited about it, because I think some
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: places in Boston the F bomb's not even really an
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: explicit explicit word. But I think his I think his
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: comment or his quote is exactly correct, sustainable. Like you
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: just you traded for a corner piece of your field,
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: whether you think he's going to be the best player,
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: one of the top five players, whatever. You have a
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: starting catcher now that you trust to do all the
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: things that you want your catcher to do, and you're
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: there for two years. That's not a rental, that's not
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: a we'll see if it works out for the last
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: two months of the year. Like this is a young team.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: We've said it's a young team. They've been doing all
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: this without Roman Anthony, without their best pitcher, and they
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: still believe that this window is going to be open
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: probably past Adlie Rutchman, but you know what, you don't
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: have an opportunity again. Adlie Rutchman every day a significant
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: contributor to Al East playoff teams with the Orioles. So
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: he made the move, and I think it has nothing
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: to do with sustainability.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: M nothing to do with sustainability. I mean he's going
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: to be part of the team next year too.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: No, no sustainability in the sense that it ruins the
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: because the question was is this gonna hurt their sustainability?
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: Like are they gonna be able? This is the exact
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: same team. It bols It makes their team better for
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: next year. So if you're like, well, three four years
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: down the road, this might really hurt you. Three four
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: years down the road. Three four weeks ago, Craig Resler
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: wasn't gonna have a job next year. M Like, why
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: is he? Why would he think three four years down
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: the road, you're gonna try to win this year with
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: this move, You're gonna try to win next year with
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: this move. From there, they don't win. He knows the
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: lifespan of a GM in Boston, it ain't lasting that
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: much longer. So to me, if I'm the GM. I'm
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: getting some dudes out of there, and I'm getting a star,
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: an all star, a three time All Star in Natalie Rutchman,
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: and to fill a need that we have.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Yep, good call.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Hey, We're gonna run a little clip in a moment
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: of the former manager of the Red Sox. But before
• 42:06
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to Alex kra Do you know Alex
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Cora was on the Ft Network last night on Dirt
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: from the Dugout. We'll run a little clip, but you
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: can listen to the entire conversation at some point at
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: your convenience on Dirt from the Dugout YouTube or podcast platform.
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: I gotta be very honest. I'm always honest, but this
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: is something that you know, probably people are gonna say, Ah,
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: he's playing the corporate card.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: But now.
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: That city, that city, the one I managed, Boston. Yeah,
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: challenge me every single freaking day, every day, every day
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: from day one, in that press conference in November, I
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: want to say seventh of twenty seventeen, all the way
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: till April twenty fifth in Baltimore this year, just the
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: expectations and the I mean, shoot, you feel that you
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: have to win one hundred and sixty two games in
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: Boston and they push you to be great. And when
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: you have bad days, you remember that you're in Famiway
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: Park and you're playing in Boston, and you cannot you know,
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: mope around.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: You have to show up.
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: And do it over and over and over again the
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: right way as a manager. As a manager, you know,
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: I don't know what the future holds. You know, I'm
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: in a good place right now. But from from that
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: day when I signed that contrail the way to the
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: decision one may you know that fan base challenged me.
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: Man is NonStop is actually very intense, and honestly, I
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: can feel now kind of like, oh okay, this is
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: kind of like looking.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and then talking about he looks different right now,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: he looks a little less stressed, but yeah, he was
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: feeling it. The Red Sox weren't a bad spot. They
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: weren't a bad spot after he left. But then eventually
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: they are now in a very good spot. So I
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: think Alex is going to return next year. We'll talk
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: to him, probably at some point in the offseason, AJ
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: but I think he'll be back managing another team next year.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it'll be next year, but he'll
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: definitely be he should manage again. I think he's a
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: really good manager. He's a great guy to interview. He's
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: a great guy to talk to. He's honest with you
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: listen to him. I have a special place in my
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: heart for the Cora family. Joey Korra was a part
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: of I play with him for seven years as his
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: brother as a coach. He was on our two thousand
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: and five World Series team. And I tell you this,
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: if any time I reach out to either Joey or Alex,
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: they will get right back to me.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: They will text me right back. They are not afraid
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: to pick up the phone.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Joey and Alex will text me during the postseason if
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: they see some on a team.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: They are just awesome. So I wish to them nothing
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: but the best.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Joey recently fired by the Tigers, obviously, Alex let go
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: by the Red Sox earlier this year. I mean, I
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: love these guys. I think they're great baseball minds, they're
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: great baseball people, and I want them to do the
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: best they can and succeed in life. But Joey and
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Alex are both awesome.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And you can catch the entire interview, including Alex
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: talking a little bit about his future, on Dirt from
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: the Dugout. Recent guests include David Ross, Eric Cosmer, Our Guy,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Buck Show, Walter, Tim Kirkchin was on a recent episode,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Jeff Nelson, Chris Burke, Raj Davis. There's DeRosa who was
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: on one of the first episodes Dirt from the Dugout,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Karl Rabbits justin Musil. You can catch it on YouTube
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: and wherever you get your pods. All Right, last topic
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: here in this one, Tony Botello going through it, the
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: whole giant organization, Kratz going through it.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: So there was a back and forth.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Where he was being asked about usage of Blake Tidwell
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: in a game. Right, this is super detailed in terms
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: of going into one moment in a game for a
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: team whose games really don't matter in terms of the
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: playoff race at this point. But here's the response from
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: a spirited Vitello.
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: Take Tidwell out at that point it seemed like a
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: good learning point for him to work his way out
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: of trouble, and yeah, well why take him out?
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Then?
• 46:46
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I think it's two things. Learning point
• 46:49
  Speaker 7: We need a lot of them. I mean, there are
• 46:50
  Speaker 7: several from this game, three out of the last four games,
• 46:54
  Speaker 7: really the sloppy game in the last series as well,
• 46:58
  Speaker 7: but really tight ball games. There's a whole basket full
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: learning points that everybody behind me and me need to
• 47:07
  Speaker 7: learn from and move forward. And at the same time,
• 47:11
  Speaker 7: we're kind of out of room for learning points. I
• 47:14
  Speaker 7: realized we're at a point in the year where we're
• 47:16
  Speaker 7: trying to give some guys some looks, if that's a
• 47:19
  Speaker 7: fair way to say it, but we're trying to win
• 47:22
  Speaker 7: ball games.
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: So at that.
• 47:24
  Speaker 7: Point he kind of emptied the tank against Altuve was
• 47:27
  Speaker 7: a pretty good battle.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: I have seen that.
• 47:29
  Speaker 7: I haven't seen as much baseball as well, or Wash
• 47:31
  Speaker 7: or some of the other guys, but seen that many
• 47:34
  Speaker 7: of times where you empty the tank, you know, and
• 47:37
  Speaker 7: kind of a standoff there and the next guy get you.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: We're not gonna spend a ton of time talking about
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: the Giants. The next month and a half, but thoughts
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: on how to manage this the rest of the way
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: for also a first year manager.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Crat it's tough.
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: It's tough because he came from a place where it
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: was nothing about nothing but winning, and I think that
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: was expectation when he came here. This is probably one
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: of the reasons that it's tough for some college coaches
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: to come into a situation. How much development has he
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: really worked with, Like it's he doesn't have like a
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: minor league managing career, coaching career where he's like, yeah,
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: you know, I get it, that was how we develop,
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: And so I think I think what he said is right.
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: We always talk about, yeah, it's about winning ball games
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: in the big leagues, but I would have a hard
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: time believing that the forty nine and seventy Giants are
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: in a spot where it's about winning ball games. It's
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: about developing players, and tid Well is a young player
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: in this game for the Giants. If they want to
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: know what he's got, maybe you push them a little
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: bit farther. I don't disagree with him along at bat,
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: but you got to push them. You've got to push
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: them sometimes and ultimately who are we to say, oh,
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: he should have pushed him here, but don't push them there.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: Why did you do that when you know it's you're
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: gonna be nitpicked all the time. And by ten gets it.
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: He talks a lot, so he's going to he's gonna
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: be nip The things that he says is going to
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: be critique because he says a lot of things.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: And you're right, he hasn't managed many games where it
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter, and he's going to do that at the
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: big league level. I mean, he managed a really good
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Tennessee program. I doubt aj. I mean, you follow college
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: better than we do. I doubt he was managing many
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: games where it was like, yeah, this doesn't mean anything.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: We're so far out of it.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: That never happened.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: Probably, I mean, every game in college matters because you
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: can always sneak into the tournament or figure out a
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: way to stay alive.
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: So here, here's the thing. This is where.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: Buster Posey, Ron Washington, Ron Wotis, whoever else he has
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: in his corner needs They all need to sit down
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: as an organization say all right, we have forty games left.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: I don't even know how many with forty to fifty
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: games left. This is what we need to find out
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: if one through twenty six of these players in twenty eight,
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: when he gets to September, and we need to find
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: out if this guy can do this, if this guy
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: can do this, and this guy can do this right.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: And I know it's always about winning games, I understand that,
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: but when you're not going to make the playoffs and
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: you're not going to be any good this year, it's
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: about figuring out what you have for next year. There
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: is no transfer portal, there is no nil where you
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: can go get new Juco players. You got the players
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: you got, and you have to be able to get
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: them better. And that's not a knock on Tony Vitelo.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: He's just never done this. So this needs to be
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: an organizational philosophy where they all sit down and say, hey,
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: this guy needs to figure out this. This guy needs
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: to figure out this. They need to have a developmental
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: strategy as an organization, and probably the front office needs
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: to tell Tony you're not gonna lose your job if
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: you lose these games here at the end of the
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: season or else he's going to continue to be like, oh, sorry, nope,
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: we have got a good adding we're going to go
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: to the next guy.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: He doesn't want to lose his job. He wants to
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: be a big league manager.
• 50:55
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  Speaker 4: Well, I have it on right now, and I'm all
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  Speaker 2: on the il right posterior elbow inflammation. Remember a j
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: he was one of the guys that was mentioned, like
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: do the Rangers trade Abaldi or de Gram or even
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Corey Seeger. They'd have to get permission, and they either
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: didn't get permission from guys or obviously didn't get far
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: enough to even have that conversation. But for the purposes
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: of Texas, I mean, they're right in the thick of this.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Ebaldi would be nice. So hopefully he gets well soon.
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they hold a wildcard, don't they Right now as
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: we speak, don't they hold the third wildcard? So yeah,
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: I mean they're they're counting on him and de Gram
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: and Mackenzie Gore a pitch better, uh, to win some
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: games for him and to get him into the postseason
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: if you have to, If you can go with Valdi,
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: de Groam, Mackenzie Gore, it's not a bad way to start.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: They just got to figure out away score some runs.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: But yeah, this is a big blow to the Rangers.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: But gosh, skip Schumacher in the way the Rangers have
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: handled things with all the injuries and all the things
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: they've had happened and they're still right here.
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: It's a good sign, but they need a Valdi back
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: sooner rather than later. When just when you thought you
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: knew who was gonna win the wildcard, Ivaldi goes down.
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: You're like, okay, you know that's that's how the America
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: League is right now.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Right, It's tough.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: But if you're Texas, I mean, it sounds ridiculous to
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: say the sage at least you didn't sell.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: You kind of just tried.
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: They tried to sell, right, But yeah, Atlanta said.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: I think they knew deep down he wouldn't go. I
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: think they knew that he was going to say no.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: There's time.
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: Listen.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: It's like when I had ten five rights with the
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: White Sox, if they would have come to me, they
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: will know I would have said no. So there are
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: times where teams go to guys and they know more
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: than likely they're going to say no. Not saying it's
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: one hundred percent, but it was more than likely that
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: Jacob deGrom he's comfortable in Texas.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: He likes his comfort level. He's earned that right.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sorry, but they had a feeling like
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: they kind of knew that he wasn't to say yes.
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: You feel like it's a pr type of thing, then
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: that's why it's a pr Of course it is because
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: they can say, oh, well, we tried to get rid
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: of him, but he wanted to stay, right.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: I mean they why does it need to be Why
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: does it need to be out there? That they even
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: tried to move Jacob to Grom It shouldn't even be
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: out there. If they asked him weeks ago and he
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: said no, then why does it doesn't even need to
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: be out there? There is no full no trade clause.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: Guess what when I was ten five, I had full
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: no trade clause. White Sox couldn't trade me. They would
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: add to release me. That's the right you earned as
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: a player.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Hey, the Angels just fired pitching coach Mike Maddox, assistant
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: pitching coach Darryl Scott, and bullpen coach Dom Chety. Sources
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: telling Jeff Passon Maddox joined the team this past offseason
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: and he was working on I'll add my commentary here.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: A classic Angels one year contract. Angels pitchers with about
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: a four and a half the ra the most walks
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: in baseball, ajay. The one year contract crew always works well.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: Here here's my hands on my heads. First of all,
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: I know two of these Two of these three I
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: played for Mike Maddocks. He was a pitching coach in Texas.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: He's awesome, he knows his stuff. He's as prepared as
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: any pitching coach I've ever been around. He's awesome, so
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: to blame him, especially almost in September, is ludicrous to me.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: And I know Dom Chidi very well. I've known Dom
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: Chidi for since I was in high school. So he's
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: also another guy that's been around. He's played, been with
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: multiple organizations as a bullpen coach. He knows his stuff.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Doesn't make sense why they're doing this. The only reason
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: it makes sense is because they're the angels and no
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: one knows what the heck they're doing. But doesn't really
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: matter at this point. I mean, you would think you'd
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: want a guy like Mike Maddocks and Dom Chiedti that
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: have been around the game with some of these young
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: pitchers to try to help them develop them. But again,
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: what do we know on the show.
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: Nothing? Yeah, some people on Twitter, I'll tell you exactly
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: what it is. How much money were they making time
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: to get rid of them? They didn't they didn't perform magic,
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: so they him. They still have to pay him. So
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: what's the point then, I just said that I don't know.
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Point is that there's almost and figure out a way.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Yes for half season contracts. Arti Morino is going to
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: look into that. Can we do half season we have
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: convinced people to take one years.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Can we figure out.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Half year deals? Can we do a monthly with our
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: next manager? Right now it's still Zooki. But the whole
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: you know, everybody just watching their back kind of thing.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: It's just it's a bad look. I know a lot
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: of assistant coaches and all that are often on one
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: year contracts, not all of them, but many of them are,
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: so I get that. But the point is they're just
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: doing things differently, and it's one of those situations where
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: they're like, why are you doing things differently from everyone else?
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: And maybe John Mozaylock is about to clean that up
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: if he's there long term. We'll see what happens.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: I do know that Arti Morino is aware of.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: A lockout coming up and doesn't want people in the
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: books during that time period, so he will get to
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: work there as well. Fun fun times, but yeah, we'll see.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, at least they picked up some prospects at
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: the deadline. They don't usually do that.
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: That's rare. They'll be in the big league soon because
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: artis like, we ain't letting anybody sit in the minor leagues.
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: You hit a few dangers and you're going up to
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: the show.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: Let's slap.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: I thought this was hilarious from Jake McCarthy, who's having
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: a really good season and that includes really good road
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: numbers for the Rockies. He won National League Player of
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: the Week his first time doing it, and aj his
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: quote to Bob Nightingale was, I didn't even know they
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: had that award. How many guys do you think know
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: and not know what's the percentage splits on the Player
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: of the Week award?
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: I think most players know they have one because they've
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: usually been on a team where the guy has won one,
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, and then they have to go on and
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: do interviews about it and people talk about it and
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: usually means you're really hot. So yeah, I'm surprised he
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: said this, But I mean most people know there's a
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: Player of the Week and a Player of the Month,
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: and every pitcher of the week and a Picture of
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: the Month and all that stuff. So I was a
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: little surprised that he said that, but hey, you know,
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: I also didn't know there was a four out role.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: So there's a lot of things we can learn. You
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: can learn something new every day.
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: Kid.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: You focused on the team too, not individual accomplishments, not
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: weekly individual accomplishments.
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: He's having a good year. If you haven't seen it,
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: he is.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: He is former diamondback. And we do have to say
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: that about Paul Seawald. Potentially he was designated for as Simon.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: He was racking up saves earlier this year.
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: He was, but it's kind of gone the other way
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: for him, so you know, I get they had to
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: make that role. Hey, did you have your Player of
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: the week trophies? Player of the month trophies? They give
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: you a watch. I'm sure I have its surprise Dash
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: Towanna stay somewhere. They give you a watch. He used
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: to give you a watch. I think I won two
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: of them.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: So they give you a watch like a Tornio.
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: I don't know how to say it. Tornio Torneo watch