Latest / Becker’s Healthcare - Clinical Leadership Podcast / Angela Talton, Chief Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Officer at City of Hope
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- 0:37This is Laura Dedo with the Becker's Healthcare Podcast.
- 0:40I'm thrilled today to be joined by a Angela Talton System,
- 0:43senior Vice President and Chief Diversity,
- 0:45equity and Inclusion officer at City of Hope. Angela,
- 0:47it's a pleasure to have you on the podcast today.
- 0:50Laura, thank you so much for this invitation.
- 0:54Now, I know we have a lot to talk about.
- 0:56Right now is a really exciting time in healthcare and a lot is being done around
- 1:00diversity, inclusion and, and really health equity too.
- 1:03But before we dive into my questions,
- 1:05can you tell me a little bit more about yourself and your background?
- 1:10Absolutely.
- 1:10And thank you so much for this opportunity to just share a little bit about City
- 1:14of Hope's commitment to D e I. Um,
- 1:17I've been with City of Hope for a little bit over two years now, and,
- 1:21and I joined, um,
- 1:23taking on this role to develop and implement a holistic and
- 1:28integrated vision and strategy for advancing diversity, equity and inclusion.
- 1:34Um, I also focus in on measurable accountability throughout the
- 1:38organization. So my team and I, we collaborate with the administrative,
- 1:43clinical and research teams and we're ensuring d e i is integral to our
- 1:48operations, um, throughout every aspect, be it our recruitment,
- 1:54our leadership development, health equity, community benefit,
- 1:58you name it. Um, I've been in d e I for a little bit over 10 years,
- 2:03most recently serving as the Chief Diversity officer at Nielsen,
- 2:07the market research company. But, um,
- 2:09my path to this work has not followed the traditional path. Um,
- 2:14I, I didn't start in hr. My background is actually operations.
- 2:19I've led very large 2000 plus employee call centers. And,
- 2:24you know, that's an amazing opportunity to learn about people,
- 2:28what motivates them, how to engage them. But I'll tell you,
- 2:32my day-to-day focus was also on strategy.
- 2:35It was on metrics and providing measurable, impactful outcomes.
- 2:40So I always worked to connect the dots of the department's strategic
- 2:45focus to that overarching strategy of the organization.
- 2:49And with City of Hope, you know, that's about curing cancer,
- 2:53but not for a small subset of the population for, for all patients.
- 2:59Absolutely. I really appreciate you talking about that because I know, you know,
- 3:02it,
- 3:02it is such an important space to be in and really making sure that you're able
- 3:06to hit patients and, and meet them where they're at and,
- 3:10and anybody in the community that needs treatment and services,
- 3:13being able to provide that for them. So, you know, what's it like to, uh,
- 3:17kind of work through, um, you know,
- 3:20so many different situations to touch so many different types of people,
- 3:23and how do you make sure you're constantly, uh,
- 3:27filling in the blind spots or, or areas that you know,
- 3:30you may not have realized in the past, um, you know,
- 3:33really needed additional support.
- 3:36Thank you for that. Um, you know, at, at City of Hope,
- 3:40we know that cancer is not one disease, but hundreds,
- 3:45every tumor can be different and affect different populations in unique
- 3:50ways. And that's why genomic research, that ability to, um,
- 3:55detect the unique thumbprint, right?
- 3:57That unique signature and precision medicine,
- 4:02identifying the best treatment options.
- 4:04That's why that's so important at City of Hope.
- 4:07It's actually the cornerstone of what we call our bench to bedside
- 4:12approach to cancer treatment.
- 4:14So connecting that patient d n a to innovations with
- 4:19medicine is the sheer definition of focusing on diversity.
- 4:24It's understanding and embracing differences, right?
- 4:28And then we add that to our focus on ensuring our clinical trials
- 4:32reflect the diversity of the US population and,
- 4:36and people who are disproportionately affected by certain types of
- 4:42tumors. That's connecting the dots to equity and inclusion.
- 4:47So with our D e I strategic focus,
- 4:50connecting that to City of Hope's overarching strategy,
- 4:54we can meet our employees where they are on the d e I learning journey and build
- 4:59awareness while solidifying and understanding of city of hope's vision,
- 5:04mission, and values.
- 5:06Got it. I, I think that's so important and,
- 5:08and definitely something that really makes a difference. Um,
- 5:11and I know a lot of organizations are trying to work through and understand how
- 5:15they can do something as meaningful on a large scale, um, as well.
- 5:19So I, I'm wondering too,
- 5:20if you could tell us about maybe one of the most exciting and impactful
- 5:23initiatives or projects that you're working on right now. Uh,
- 5:26what really stands out to you as being something that, um,
- 5:29is unique to City of Hope in, in really, uh, a proud spot for you?
- 5:35Well, right now,
- 5:36our focus is to deliver a one City of Hope experience.
- 5:41So, as you probably recall, in February of 2022,
- 5:46we completed the acquisition of Cancer Treatment Centers of America,
- 5:50and that's really transforming City of Hope into one of the largest national
- 5:55cancer care organizations. You know, this combined organization, we,
- 6:00we serve about 115,000 patients with
- 6:0411,000 employees in California now are Arizona,
- 6:09Illinois, and Georgia. And, um,
- 6:12so what I'm working on is sharing that d e I strategy, tailoring it of course,
- 6:16to the local nuances of our new locations, and, um,
- 6:21making sure that we are delivering and implementing
- 6:26that strategy. Our, um,
- 6:29our mission is to infuse d e I into the DNA
- 6:34of City of Hope. So with this larger footprint,
- 6:38we're really working on relating d e I to those
- 6:43local programs, initiatives, partnerships,
- 6:48so that we are inclusive of our staff, the patients,
- 6:53their families and caregivers, of course, faculty, students, residents,
- 6:58as well as the community at large, and,
- 7:01and really building a strategy that is, uh,
- 7:05that is sustainable.
- 7:07Absolutely. I, I love that. And I think it's so important to, like,
- 7:10as you mentioned, just have that, um, front of mind and,
- 7:14and building that right type of strategy that is, is going to, um,
- 7:18make a difference. Now, I, I know there's a lot of challenges out there,
- 7:21whether it's, um,
- 7:22just in general economic challenges in the healthcare space too.
- 7:26What do you see as some of the biggest issues that you're following right now in
- 7:29healthcare, um, whether they're, you know,
- 7:31roadblocks or drivers of change in any way, shape or form?
- 7:35I'd just love to hear about some of the things that you really have your eye on
- 7:38today.
- 7:40So, um, I'd say it's probably this, uh,
- 7:43this gap in the US between this current era
- 7:49of cancer innovation and the people who need and can
- 7:54actually access those breakthroughs.
- 7:57It seems like our industry just needs to close that gap by
- 8:02advancing equity for all patients,
- 8:05not just those who are seeking care at our own centers or
- 8:09with our own medicine. And City of Hope leads a coalition,
- 8:14it's called Cancer Care is Different,
- 8:16and this group is advocating for systemic change
- 8:21to increase underserved populations access to specialized cancer
- 8:26care. Laura, um,
- 8:28the coalition actually championed the California Cancer Care
- 8:33Equity Act, which was passed into law last year.
- 8:37And its goal is to ensure that all Californians, uh,
- 8:41including those on Medi-Cal,
- 8:43have the right to request treatment at an NCI designated cancer center
- 8:48where they can enroll in clinical trials and receive some of this, uh,
- 8:53leading edge treatment. And, and, you know, just to share a few stats, you know,
- 8:58despite having the highest rates of Medi-Cal enrollment, um,
- 9:02with African Americans at 44.3%,
- 9:05and Hispanics at 44.9%,
- 9:0930 of the 30% of them say that the quality of care
- 9:14that's accessible to them in their area is a barrier to
- 9:19seeking treatment. And you, you know,
- 9:22patients insured by Medi-Cal,
- 9:25the ones that are diagnosed with breast, colon, lung, and rectal cancers,
- 9:30they're more likely to be diagnosed at an advanced stage
- 9:35of the disease and have less favorable five year survival rates.
- 9:40So, you know, this level of advocacy is really important at City of Hope.
- 9:46Absolutely. That's such a great point,
- 9:48and thank you so much for sharing the data to back up. Uh,
- 9:51it is just fascinating and, um, I'm glad that you mentioned research and, uh,
- 9:55innovation too, because I know that it is really an important place where, um,
- 10:00a lot of these efforts towards, you know,
- 10:02bridging the gap in health equity and health disparities, um, really make,
- 10:06make a lot of work and make a lot of headway. Um,
- 10:09before we wrap up our conversation,
- 10:11I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about the most I important thing
- 10:15that healthcare executives can do now to make sure that they're setting
- 10:18themselves up for success in the future,
- 10:20especially with that health equity and diversity equity inclusion lens.
- 10:23I think that's something that so many organizations are really trying to focus
- 10:28on in the next year, and I would love from your perspective, some of the, um,
- 10:33you know,
- 10:33really important key things that leaders should do with an eye on the future.
- 10:38Thank you, Laura. Um, I am gonna have to give you three things though,
- 10:41but I will prioritize them. Um, thing one is, uh, leading by example.
- 10:46And you know, what I'd say is my ceo, Robert Stone,
- 10:51he demonstrates this quality so incredibly well. Um,
- 10:57you know, he speaks to the importance of diversity
- 11:02in terms of our staff as well.
- 11:0440% of patients are more likely to
- 11:09follow the treatment of a clinical team that
- 11:13represents their diverse community. So,
- 11:16so representation also is important,
- 11:19and hiring from a diverse slate of candidates is something that we really
- 11:23try to focus on. And I'm pleased that recently at our senior most ranks,
- 11:28we've hired Phil o' as our system president,
- 11:32Joanne Za Hague is our chief business officer, and Dr.
- 11:36John Carton as our new director of the Comprehensive Cancer Center,
- 11:41and our chief Scientific officer, priority two,
- 11:44I think should be sustainability, really building initiatives to last,
- 11:49not just for a headline, and, you know,
- 11:52really focusing in on that health equity piece as, as you mentioned. So,
- 11:56you know, I I think it's not just about, you know,
- 12:00that old adage about giving you food or teaching you to fish.
- 12:04I think it's important, like supporting HBCUs and msi,
- 12:09it's important to fo to support them financially. Yes.
- 12:14But also with scholarships and fellowships and internships that are going
- 12:18to lead to employment. I think that's important.
- 12:22And then three is infusing d ei into every part of the day-to-day operations.
- 12:27So it can't just be a focus during a crisis or civil
- 12:32unrest. It's,
- 12:33it's imperative that d e I strategies are holistic and,
- 12:38um, that there's this conscious focus on inclusion from hiring to
- 12:44clinical trial participation.
- 12:46It is important to respect and reflect differences.
- 12:50That's so critical and definitely something that I know, you know,
- 12:54is important to bake into your culture, as you mentioned. And, you know,
- 12:57when you think about, um,
- 12:58making sure that people are thinking through how, um,
- 13:03important it is to keep diversity, equity,
- 13:05and inclusion in mind in every action that they're taking,
- 13:07in policy that they're making, you know, where do you start with that?
- 13:11How do you really begin an organization that maybe has never even had a D E I
- 13:15policy in the past, or let alone a department? Where do you begin to,
- 13:18to try to infuse that within the whole, uh, team and everybody, um,
- 13:23in the decisions they're making on a daily basis?
- 13:27Thank you. I, I'll tell you, part of our implementation roadmap,
- 13:32um,
- 13:33it includes a focus on building awareness.
- 13:38And we do that with interactive scenario based training that we actually
- 13:43have co-created with our vendor, the Kaleidoscope Group.
- 13:48And this training is designed to not only expand knowledge
- 13:53about things like conscious inclusion and other d e I tenants,
- 13:57but it's to demonstrate what actions and behaviors are
- 14:02needed to create a more consciously inclusive city of hope.
- 14:06And so, you know,
- 14:08as we practice these consciously inclusive actions and behaviors,
- 14:12what we're seeing is a cultural transformation,
- 14:16and it's an impact that can be measured.
- 14:18Right now we're measuring it one way as with our employee engagement survey,
- 14:23and we're seeing year over year improvement across the entire system.
- 14:28Um,
- 14:28and especially with questions related to relationship with my manager or with my
- 14:33coworkers or that patient experience. And, um, also from a patient perspective,
- 14:39one of the things that we focus in on is increasing the diversity of our
- 14:44clinical trials.
- 14:45And we make this a point to ensure that we talk about
- 14:50it throughout the organization,
- 14:52that we want our trials to be representative of the US
- 14:58population. And, you know, just last year, our demographics,
- 15:02particularly for the Hispanic Latinx populations, um,
- 15:08not only on par but exceeds the national average at
- 15:1227.8%, and with black African Americans, it's, uh, it's,
- 15:17uh, 6%. So, you know, the,
- 15:19these are areas that are critically important to us to demonstrate
- 15:24and to communicate about with our staff and to make sure
- 15:29that that commitment to d e I is something that we, uh, that we,
- 15:33that we celebrate at City of Hope.
- 15:35Absolutely. I love that. Angela,
- 15:37thank you so much for joining us on the podcast today.
- 15:39This has been a really fun and informative discussion,
- 15:41and I look forward to connecting with you again soon.
- 15:44Thank you, Laura. I really appreciate this opportunity.