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NOW What? Still a Twisted Sisterhood! | HBR Talk 359 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to HBr Talk three point fifty nine.
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  Speaker 3: Now what still a twisted sisterhood? Because I'm too lazy
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  Speaker 3: to come up with a new title for the same article,
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  Speaker 3: I'm your host, Hannah Wallen here with nonsense Annihilator Lauren
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  Speaker 3: Brooks and personification of pert Aptivity Mike Stevenson. And tonight
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  Speaker 3: about what's happening with now. We're going to the church
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  Speaker 3: of what's happening with now. So last week we learned
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  Speaker 3: that now does their does their accounting by like astrology
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  Speaker 3: or some weird shit. You know, it's like they literally
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  Speaker 3: We'll leave it at that. In the meantime, we left
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  Speaker 3: off last last episode talking about how now doesn't handle
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  Speaker 3: their accounting very well. We left off talking about what
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  Speaker 3: usual stuff. But the last paragraph we read was interesting.
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  Speaker 3: The previous president of the organization pointed out there's a
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  Speaker 3: So what do they mean by that? And of course
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  Speaker 3: I finished the show wondering that didn't remember that there
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  Speaker 3: was more to the section under this image, and here
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  Speaker 3: it is. John Erickson, another member of the Presidential Advisory
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  Speaker 3: Committee and a former National Board member, also characterized the
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  Speaker 3: treatment he witnessed by some Board members as outward racism
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  Speaker 3: toward Newness. He spoke with The Nineteenth about a recent
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  Speaker 3: Board media held remotely, during which he says members berated
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  Speaker 3: Nunez for about twenty minutes for not turning on her
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  Speaker 3: video camera for the meeting. Now and of itself, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think that's racist, Like this is something that seems
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  Speaker 3: like a technical thing that she didn't turn her video
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  Speaker 3: hunt and they're mad that she didn't turn a video on.
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  Speaker 3: Sounds like maybe they're assuming she's not paying as much
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  Speaker 3: attention to the meeting, or they want to see her
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  Speaker 3: facial expressions when talking, or some other such thing. Right
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  Speaker 3: at my workplace, my employer, if we had to have
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  Speaker 3: video meetings, we were required to be visible use our cameras,
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  Speaker 3: and it was a problem for me because at the
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  Speaker 3: time my computer did not have a camera and I
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  Speaker 3: didn't have a substitute. They didn't want me doing it
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  Speaker 3: on my phone, and I was like, why can either
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  Speaker 3: be visible or I can be on I can follow
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  Speaker 3: the don't use your phone role, And it was more
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  Speaker 3: important for them to be able to see me than
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  Speaker 3: it was to have me not do it on my phone.
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  Speaker 3: So their reasoning was, we want to know you're not
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  Speaker 3: driving while you're at the meeting. We want to know
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  Speaker 3: you're not doing other things while you're at the meeting,
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  Speaker 3: because you're getting paid, and that might be the case.
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  Speaker 3: So what Nuna's said was she attempted to explain that
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  Speaker 3: she was engaged in the conversation but consoling her sick
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  Speaker 3: son who happened to be in her lap at the time.
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  Speaker 3: And remember this isn't like a twelve year old the baby,
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  Speaker 3: so she didn't want to be on camera because her
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  Speaker 3: baby was sick and she was holding the baby. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and Richard Bierre has a very solid point said, by
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  Speaker 3: a board that's not publicly disclosed as to who the
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  Speaker 3: members are, so they get money from public sources, they
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  Speaker 3: affect the course of public legislation in every state of
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  Speaker 3: the Union and federally, but they don't want us to know.
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  Speaker 3: And yes, Gabriel, I could still drive while using a
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  Speaker 3: laptop or a tablet. The thing is, if I have
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  Speaker 3: my camera on and it's on me, they would be
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  Speaker 3: able to see that I was in the car and
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  Speaker 3: they would be able to hear at the same time
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  Speaker 3: with at least with my vehicle. If I'm driving, you
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  Speaker 3: can hear it. It's not a quiet vehicle. I drive
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  Speaker 3: a van, that is it used to be a moving van.
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  Speaker 3: It's on a truck chassis. It doesn't go quietly, and
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  Speaker 3: it also has some like we just had to replace
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  Speaker 3: the spark plugs and we just had to do some
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  Speaker 3: other engine work, and it makes noise. It just it
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  Speaker 3: makes noise, so they would know. And just like they
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  Speaker 3: would know if I was doing the dishes too, because
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  Speaker 3: I don't do that quietly either.
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  Speaker 5: Sort of explains why so many leftists do their TikTok
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  Speaker 5: rants from their car. Yeah, a lot of Europeans don't
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  Speaker 5: understand why they do this, and it's largely because almost
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  Speaker 5: every American has a car, and it's a good place
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  Speaker 5: where they could do it in a generally soundproofed environment.
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  Speaker 5: Because I don't want to invoke a stereotype, but a
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  Speaker 5: lot of them live with well, not in their mother's basement,
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  Speaker 5: but they live in a house with other people who
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  Speaker 5: wouldn't appreciate them yelling like they tend to yell about
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  Speaker 5: and whatnot. They do it in their car because it's
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  Speaker 5: a place where they can do it where not many
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  Speaker 5: people will will hear them doing They yelling, and yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's it's like the habit of Americans because every American
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  Speaker 5: has a car, because every American has to have a car, because.
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  Speaker 3: We do spend a lot of time. Yelling in the car.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, it's a good place to yell because, like I say,
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  Speaker 5: it's almost soundproof.
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  Speaker 3: Well, well usually yelling at each other. Yeah, I know
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  Speaker 3: we can hear you yelling at them, but I mean it's.
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  Speaker 2: It's the natural state of things, right, You're you're yelling
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  Speaker 2: at people in traffic.
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  Speaker 3: It's where it's where you get your frustration out, right, Like.
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  Speaker 2: It's where you go and you fucking sing your heart out,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's it's it's kind of
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  Speaker 2: like your own little place of solitude.
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  Speaker 3: But I think that the reason people go and do
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  Speaker 3: these type.
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  Speaker 2: Of yelly, cryy things in their car is because they'd
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  Speaker 2: be too fucking embarrassed to do it out in public,
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  Speaker 2: which I underst stand is a conundrum. It's it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of contradictory because they then go and post this shit online,
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  Speaker 2: right to make some kind of a point to get
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  Speaker 2: to gain, you know, like sympathy or interest in whatever the.
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  Speaker 3: Hell it is that they're saying. But it's just cringe.
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  Speaker 3: It's just cringe anyway you slice it. Yeah, As to
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  Speaker 3: address the rest of what Gabriel said, a phone makes
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  Speaker 3: no difference in that scenario. It's so my employer isn't
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  Speaker 3: always technically savvy. They know that your phone is being
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  Speaker 3: spied on by the government and by Google and by
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  Speaker 3: Amazon and every other fucking app under the sun. They
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  Speaker 3: haven't figured out that the same thing is true like
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  Speaker 3: your laptop, computer, your tablet, your desktop computer, if you
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  Speaker 3: have software on it, if it is online, if like
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  Speaker 3: Facebook is spying on you, Google is spying on you.
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  Speaker 3: Amazon even if you don't use Facebook, even if you
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  Speaker 3: are using a different and alternate browser besides Chrome, even
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  Speaker 3: if you have never had an Amazon boat, They're still
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  Speaker 3: spying on you. All of them are spying on you.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing on your computer is private, even if you have
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  Speaker 3: all kinds of settings on your computer to keep it,
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  Speaker 3: it is not there. Right, You don't have that privacy,
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  Speaker 3: and it hasn't been protected. If you're in the United States,
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  Speaker 3: it hasn't been protected by the one organization whose existence
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  Speaker 3: is supposed to be justified by protecting the citizens from
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  Speaker 3: from this type of exploitation. Yeah at night, motorcyclist says,
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  Speaker 3: Microsoft's AI listens all the time, right, all of that.
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  Speaker 3: If you're using if you're using Microsoft OS, Microsoft is
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  Speaker 3: listening to you. If you're using Apples os Apple is
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  Speaker 3: listening to you, and you know either either one. And
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  Speaker 3: of course you also have the FEDS spying, and my
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  Speaker 3: organization has privacy concerns because of HIPPA. So they like, well,
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  Speaker 3: you have to do everything you can to prevent any
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  Speaker 3: kind of a breach, and no amount of explaining to
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  Speaker 3: the people above me because I am just a direct
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  Speaker 3: support professional, so I can't possibly have any unrelated knowledge, right,
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  Speaker 3: I don't have a path, I don't have any experience
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  Speaker 3: with anything. I'm not a nerd. I don't hang out
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  Speaker 3: with programmers, none of that stuff. It matters, right, So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's like, well, you know, we have this policy and
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  Speaker 3: you have to follow this policy, and it doesn't matter
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  Speaker 3: if the policy is completely useless and doesn't have a point,
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  Speaker 3: you still have to follow it. Well, you know, unless
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  Speaker 3: you want to pay for our cam form my computer
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  Speaker 3: at that time, and like now I have a laptop
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  Speaker 3: that has a cam and we use it, but we
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  Speaker 3: don't have to do those kind of meetings anymore. So
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  Speaker 3: there we go then, and they really didn't like you know,
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  Speaker 3: the me explaining, well, you know, I don't get paid
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  Speaker 3: enough to go buy those things. Your employer doesn't like
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  Speaker 3: to hear that, and it's not a tool for the job.
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  Speaker 3: It's like I couldn't use it at work. Privacy concerns
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  Speaker 3: right only at home. So the COVID fiasco, like like
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  Speaker 3: I've started calling it the dip shit crisis. The dipshit
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  Speaker 3: crisis is going to be remembered. Is America's stupidest time
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  Speaker 3: for during gen X's entire life, at least since the
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  Speaker 3: Vietnam War.
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  Speaker 5: You have to wonder if this is what's going to
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  Speaker 5: happen at the Pearly Gates, like, you know, because God
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  Speaker 5: has been listening to everything you say everywhere, ever, and
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  Speaker 5: when you get to the Pearly Gates, they sort of
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  Speaker 5: replay you all the recordings of everything you said, even
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  Speaker 5: when you thought no one was listening, and they go,
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  Speaker 5: what was this all about? Mate? And I'm like, I
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  Speaker 5: didn't think anyone was listening, so I was just, you know, riffing.
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  Speaker 5: I was just talking to myself. I don't really I
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  Speaker 5: don't really think that about the Jews. I was just
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  Speaker 5: talking to myself. But like this is we have hell
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  Speaker 5: on Earth now because this can actually happen while you're
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  Speaker 5: still alive, because as long as long as you have
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  Speaker 5: some device open anywhere in your house where they can
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  Speaker 5: hear you, and they and they've had speech to text
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  Speaker 5: software all in all of these devices for the last
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  Speaker 5: ten years at the very least. And Yeah, if you
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  Speaker 5: ever do get arrested for me being a terrorist, someone's
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  Speaker 5: gonna be able to pull this up and go what
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  Speaker 5: was that you said about the Jews, Mike, And I
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  Speaker 5: thought I was talking to myself. Yeah, it's it's all
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  Speaker 5: gonna happen. It's all probably already happening.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think at that point, you know, with with humans,
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  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna go all in. Find just go ahead
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  Speaker 3: and shoot me. Now you're going to put me through
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  Speaker 3: some sort of fake trial, you know, why waste all
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  Speaker 3: the money. Just take me out there and bring your
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: bring your twenty one gun, salute, point it right on
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  Speaker 3: my chest. Good, we're done. Because that's I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 3: be able to excuse anything, so I'm not gonna try.
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  Speaker 3: And I guess it's it's the same way in the afterlife,
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  Speaker 3: Like there's no you can't lie to God, right, I
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  Speaker 3: mean you could try, but if something is omniscient, omnipotent,
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  Speaker 3: it's pointless to lie to it. So there you go.
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  Speaker 3: You're just gonna have to go through and everything that
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: you used to dodge your cognitive dissonance. In real life,
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna have to confront anyway, all the uncomfortable shit.
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  Speaker 3: Sounds like it's gonna be fun. But in any case, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they they got mad because they couldn't see her and
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  Speaker 3: she had an issue that sounds to me, this sounds
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  Speaker 3: like a feminist issue to me. Feminists usually complain that
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  Speaker 3: because women have responsibilities in the home, they should be
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  Speaker 3: given concessions, and they're not, and this feminist organization did
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  Speaker 3: not give Newness this concession. They berated her for twenty
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  Speaker 3: minutes for not turning on her video camera for this meeting. Granted,
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  Speaker 3: organizations that have remote meetings do have reason to want
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  Speaker 3: to see that you're focusing on the meeting, that you're
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  Speaker 3: not doing something else. But if you are in a situation,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like I suppose she cared about this because
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  Speaker 3: of her son's privacy, Like you don't necessarily, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: If my kids were little, I don't think I would
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  Speaker 3: have been upset about letting my organization see them. Everybody
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  Speaker 3: would have been distracted. They would all look at the
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  Speaker 3: cutie pipes, But that would have been would have been
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  Speaker 3: it because they worked with a lot of women, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure she does too, but but yeah, she goes
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  Speaker 3: on and says, or he goes on and says, they
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  Speaker 3: continue to almost make her feel bad for being a
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  Speaker 3: mother and woman in leadership, Ericson said, it's just antithetical
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  Speaker 3: to I think now as founding principles and what we
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  Speaker 3: should be doing and supporting. Nuna's experience highlights a long
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  Speaker 3: standing question concerning now's ability to adapt in an era
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  Speaker 3: where liberal progressive women skew younger and more radically diverse
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  Speaker 3: than the white baby boomers who make up the majority
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  Speaker 3: of now's leadership. So they made it racial, Right, it's
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  Speaker 3: not necessarily racial. White people's kids get sick too. Right,
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  Speaker 3: If my mom had been in that position when I
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  Speaker 3: was a kid, when I was growing up, depending on
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  Speaker 3: what time of year it was, there may have been
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  Speaker 3: more days that I was sick than there were that
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't. My mom raised a kid with disabilities that
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  Speaker 3: some of them we knew about, some of them we didn't. Literally,
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  Speaker 3: we had a doctor to all my parents when I
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  Speaker 3: was a child that if something didn't change, I wasn't
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  Speaker 3: gonna make it to twenty one. Something did change, a
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  Speaker 3: lot of things changed. I'm fifty three. I will be
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  Speaker 3: fifty four in July, and so I'm way out of warranty.
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  Speaker 3: I can't get any coverage on replacement parks or labor
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  Speaker 3: or anything like that. Right, But you know that's she
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  Speaker 3: would have had more days than not that. You know,
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  Speaker 3: her cam would have been off if they'd have had
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  Speaker 3: that technology back then, just because either there was a
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  Speaker 3: sick kid right there, the house was a mess, because
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  Speaker 3: she spent all of her time monitoring me to make
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  Speaker 3: sure that I didn't die. Literally slept out a bean
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  Speaker 3: bag in my room sometimes because she wanted to make
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: sure I was still breathing when I was sick, my breath. Yeah,
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: my mom was an amazing woman and I really miss her.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: But yeah, so I can see why Nuna's might have
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: wanted that concession, all right, And I can see why
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: this might be something that now might say, Hey, you know,
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: we should make this concession or we should be okay,
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: we should assure this woman, okay, it's all right to
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: show we understand that your house might be messy, your
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: environment might be messy. You might have a child in
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: your lap. We can conduct the meeting that way anyway,
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: but we still want to see that you're right there
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: in front of the in front of the camera. But
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: instead they made it an issue of contention. But I
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: don't think it has to do with color, because there's
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: there's no there's no limit on whose kids get sick.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: I think I don't think there's any ethnic group, any
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: race that that doesn't have illness sometimes.
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, it depends what they can do with the
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: things they inject into people with gene therapy. It's possible
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: to target certain races. And I won't go any further
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: into that because I'm not allowed to.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: There we go, Here we go. Well as a possessor
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: of the motherfucker gene mutation, Like, if they ever figure
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: out how to fix that, I'll be a happy camper.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: I can change my diet, although honestly, most of what
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: I have to eat is stuff I like. So there
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: we go. But yeah, Nuna's experience highlights a long standing
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: question concerning Now's ability to adapt. That's a big one
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: right there. But the whole thing about it being a
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: black and white issue, I just don't think it is.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Now was founded in nineteen sixty six against a backdrop
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: of the civil rights movement and the budding second wave
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: feminist movement focused on pushing for reproductive rights, workplace equality,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: protections against gender based violence, and challenging rigid thinking around
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: gender roles and women's sexuality. That's a mouthful when I
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: when I think about this, when they say pushing for
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: reproductive rights. So I want to point out all the
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: National Organization for Women has pushed for is abortion. They
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: made a big deal about the pill, but when you
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: look at the history of the birth control pill, pushing
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: for that to be rushed forward was a bad thing.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Even though it did give women more control over their fertility,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: it also came with a significant amount of risk that
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: was not detected when it should have been detected. And
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: there are girls now teenage, girls who have not yet
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: reached the age of majority where they can vote, girls
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: that are actually too young to consent to sex, that
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: are being put on birth control pills because their mom
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: and dad doesn't think they can control their behavior and
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: or they have other reasons right like, oh, my period's
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: too painful, I want to go on the pill when
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: there's like fifty other things you should try first, one
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: of which is regulating your weight, but nobody wants to
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: hear that, and they're having strokes, actual blood caught clot
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: caused strokes. And this has been a problem for about
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: It's been in the news for about the last fifteen years,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: so it's not something that just came along because of
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: the most recent cause of young people having strokes. This
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: has been a thing for a long time. When you
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: fuck with hormones, they fuck back with you, and that
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: that's been There are genetic predispositions that you can have
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: to stroke. There are other medical conditions that can make
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: you more vulnerable to a stroke, and so on. And
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: if you're in one of those groups, and they give
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: you hormones for birth control, which the birth control pill
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: operates by tricking the body into thinking it's pregnant, and
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: then you have three weeks of tricking the body into
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: thinking it's pregnant, and then one week of you know,
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: doing doing the dash part of the ding and dash,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: and then you have, you know, like the whole menstrual
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: cycle happens, and then you go back to, oh no, no, seriously,
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: were we are pregnant? We just didn't know it for
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: a week and you do this over and over again
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: to your body every month with this pill, so it
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: yanks around everything that your hormones change back and forth,
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: back and forth every single month for as long as
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: you're on the pill. And these problems didn't arise right away.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: They started happening after you had the first generation of
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: women who were on the pill for years and years
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: and then went off to have their babies. And then
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: the second generation of women who are on the pill
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: started going on pill for years and years. You started
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: seeing a few gen xers here and there with this problem.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: And then the millennial generation, which is the third generation
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: of women who would go on the pill for years
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: and years and then you know, have their babies after
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: they were done with all the things they wanted to
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: get done before they had their babies. They're the ones
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: that really started having the strokes. And so I've always
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: suspected that there's some generational damage there that screwing your
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: hormones around before you have your babies has an effect
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: on your maybe your eggs that we haven't detected. So now,
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: pushing that wasn't necessarily the best thing for women, even
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: if women wanted that control right then the challenging the
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: protections against gender based violence. Well, here's the biggest problem
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: with the second wave of feminist protections against gender based violence.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: They lied, They flat out lied. They don't care about
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: violence within relationships, and they don't care about sexual violence.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: They care about demonizing men. And the reason we can
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: say that is because there are two things that they
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: made sure to do when they did their research, their
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: so called research, and then they're lobbying using the results
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: of that research on these topics. One of them was
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: they organized their research, they orchestrated their research in such
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: a way as to avoid information about male victims and
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: female perpetrators. They hid that information as best they possibly could.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: And then the second thing that they did is when
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: they lobbied, they made damn sure to it to make
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: sure that female perpetrators were not as accountable under the
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: law as male perpetrators, male victims were not as protected
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: under the law as female victims, and when men were accused,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: their due process rights would be compromised. That's not advancement,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: that's not progress, that's actually creating gender discrimination. So the
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: National Organization for Women has never been a good organization.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: It's never been an honest organization the challenging rigid thinking
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: around gender roles and women's sexuality. They claim to have
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: done that, but then at the same time, what all
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: they really did was make up things about gender roles,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: like the idea that women were trapped in a domestic role,
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: when in fact women have always worked and it's always
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: been a thing that women had access to. But if
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: women chose to rely financially on a man, they could
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: not then also have the level of control that a
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: single woman has, because if they're choosing to rely financially
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: on a man, they are creating obligations for him that
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: require that he have control over certain things in order
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: to meet those obligations. So the National Organization for Women
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: the history and as they're glossing this over, and remember
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: last week we looked at the about page and this
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: is a I would say this is a sort of
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: second wave radical feminist slash intersectional on some things publication,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: and this would be one of them. So it goes
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: on to say black women played a role in Now's
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: leadership from the beginning. Co founder Poully Murray was a
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Yale law graduate and a member of President John F.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Kennedy's Commission on the status of women. Remember we get
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: told back in the sixties women had no political power, right,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: no power, no influence, and especially black women, no power,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: no influence.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: But she's on the President's Commission on the Status of
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Women who challenged racial and gender discrimination in her legal
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: writings and activism. So a little bit of history. The
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: National Organization for Women was founded after some of the
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: women involved and the President's Commission on the Status of
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Women were not satisfied with how radical the results of
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: that commission were. They made their findings, they gave their
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: advice to the federal government. The federal government did not
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: go overboard. We did get the Equal Pay Act, and
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: women did get included in the Equal Pay Act. It
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: was initially to stop racial discrimination in pay because it
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: used to be legal to just pay people differently based
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: on their race, based on their age, based on their sex,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: any any characteristic of them. You know that you could, well,
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: this person is they would they would refer to somebody
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: within intellectual disabilities as feeble minded. And while this person
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: is feeble minded, we're gonna pay them less, and so on,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: or even this guy has six kids. If we want
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: him to do this job, we have to pay him more,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: So we're going to pay him more. So you literally
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: had to just negotiate if you wanted more pay, and
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: you didn't have any kind of guarantee nothing. Nobody was
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: going to get help from the government fighting unequal pay,
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: and the Equal Pay Act federalized control over that. So
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: it made it on one hand, it made it harder
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: to wrongly discriminate, but on the other hand, it made
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: it harder to incentivize better work because people could use
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: demographic as as a tool of suing. You know, like
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: you have two sales people and one of them does
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: one hundred thousand a year in sales and the other
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: one does sixty thousand a year in sales. If one
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: of them is a different demographic that's protected, and the
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: one that does less sales, they can sue and say, well,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: the reason they're paying me less isn't because I do
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: less sales, is because I'm this other demographic. And it
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: puts the employer on their back foot they have to
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: fight that lawsuit, right, And so there's there's reason why
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: it was passed, but there's also like it's kind of
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: a sloppy thing to do it federally like that, But
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: in any case. Ever since that law was passed, women
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: have had the right to sue if they feel like
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: they're being paid less just because they're women. Again, it
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: puts the employer on their back foot. They have to
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: fight that lawsuit. They got to prove that they're not discriminating.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: So there you go. So let's see, in nineteen seventy,
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Eleen Hernandez became Now's second national president and the first
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: black woman to lead the organization. So they're kind of
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: undermining their claim here. That is a racist organization right
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: off the top. Before the term intersectionality was coined by
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: scholar Kimberly Crenshaw in nineteen eighty nine, Hernandez was one
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: of many black women leaders drawing nuanced connections between race
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: and gender. As said Catherine turk athorion and author of
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: the twenty twenty three book The Women of Now, how
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: feminists built an organization that transformed America. Remember, nice feminists
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: have no power, no influence. But the National Organization for
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Women transformed America. How did they do that?
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: And yet you still hear so many people blaming all
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: of this feminism and this modern day communism and this
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: intersectionist bullshit on white women. I've done it myself many
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: a time because I've fallen under the assumption that this
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: was all started by white women. I mean, Communism was
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: started by Marx and so it's it seems logical to
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: conclude that feminism was started by white women, Germanic women even,
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: and yeah, maybe it was, but to knee jerk into
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: oh yeah, the worst thing about our society as white
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: women is is my opic, to say the least. And
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: I say that as someone who is my epic, so
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: I am allowed to be ablest in that way. No,
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: it's not it's not as white women. It's women. It's
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: it's all women, it's Caucasian women, it's it's women. It
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: is whatever the word is for Asian ones, mongoloid, I
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: think is that is the technical term that we're not
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: allowed to use. But no, it's it's it's all women. Like,
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: let's not get confused about this, Like any given woman
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: that can be caught in the pincers of this movement
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: is just as culpable for for for any other women,
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: and it always has been. And that's what we're discovering
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: right now. This has came before any of the identitarian
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: intercessionist race bullshit. This is why we have the race bullshit,
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: because it was set into motion by the gender bullshit.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: That's why it's why we have the gay bullshit, of
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: the trans bullshit. It seems appropriate to bring it up
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: in June. We're not seeing much of the gay.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Pripar gay priparayes now it's all about men's mental health.
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: No, that's that they're too busy rioting about immigrants at
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: this point. This has been predictive for some time that
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: the immigrants that would overshadow the gay shit. And it has.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: And yeah, the secondary and tertiary advancements of modern Western
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: communism have seemed to overshadow the gender based communism. But
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: but that that's just it's a distrection. It all started
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: with the gender based community. Well, I suppose communism has
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: gone all the way back to the inception of the
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: Soviet Union and even long since before that. But then
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: there's Charles Fier, the French bastard, put communism into motion
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: in terms of gender. I'm saying that it all comes
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: down to women.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's he's the guy that actually
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: created the dictionary, the modern dictionary definition of feminism, by
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: the way, because prior to his definition, feminism was just
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: a synonym for femininity. It meant exactly the.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: Same thing as in the verb to feminize. Feminism was
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: just yeah, but yeah. It's difficult to say where communism
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: came from, but it involves victim mentality and involves the
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: the the bourgeoisie, and the proletariat. And even even before
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: the communism we know and love involving the rich and
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: the poor, even before that, there was the communism involving
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: the male and the female, and it came from Charles Foyer,
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: and history can only speculate where and where it came
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: before that.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, those those ideas have been around for a long time,
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: you know, like I.
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: Mean romantic romantic love and chivalry as well, I mean
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: as as our board as our boy Peter Wright has
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: been has been really trying to hammer home for some
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: time now, like this century. This has been going on
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: for a long ass time, like at least a millennium.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Well, and a different prototype of the victim narratives and
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: demands for legal changes for women that that only gave
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: women rights but not the same responsibilities as men. That
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: that's part of what start at the beginning of the
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: end for Rome, like the Roman Empire as well, so
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: it goes back and I'm sure other civilizations that rose
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: and fell experienced some You can't have a group of
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: people that has all of the rights but not all
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: of the responsibilities of an adult. And that's you can't
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: have one group of people be the shield between the
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: state and their family, and the other adult in the
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: family has all of the same rights but is still shielded,
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: and so if they exercise those rights wrongly, the individual
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: who has no control over them is responsible. Somehow. You
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: can't have that and have your civilization not develop problems
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: that lead to ultimately a crumble, which is what we're
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: seeing today and now. Is part of the reason for
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: that They did transform America. It's why we're in so
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: much trouble now, why we have so much shit happening now.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: It's part of why the current protests are happening right now.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: And I say protests lightly there, because we haven't had
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: real protests in this country very very frequently for a
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: long time. But what we have is is organizations that
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: put out flyers and spend money on buses, and they
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: get people from all over the country to travel across
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: state lines to go to so I'm getting told of
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: a background noise. Somebody's microphone is making noises. I don't
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: know who, but they get paid to travel to some
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: location and burn it down. And it's so organized that
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: there are pallettes of bricks for somebody right there that
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: knows how to break up the sidewalk and hand out
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: pieces and printed flags that are they still have the
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: fold marks in them. Okay, it's gone, the noise is gone,
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: and so on. You know, Craigslist ads getting offering people
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: money to show up for the protests and everything. That's
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: not how how organic protest works, right, it's it's it's
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: something that happens because people are angry, and you might
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: you might hear about it. You know ahead of time.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: You might see a hand printed or you know, somebody
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: goes to to someplace and gets actual flyers printed up
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: and saying this is this is going on if you
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: can get their show up. But you don't see wealthy
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: organizations paying people to show up or paying for people's transportation.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: That's not organic. That's that's actually orchestrated, and it it
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: becomes a sy up. And like I said on Tuesday
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: on on HBr News, the people who get involved with
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: this there. Of course, there are some that are just
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: flat out malicious people and they're they're manipulating, controlling, and
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: so on. There are a lot of people who get
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: involved in this shit because they're dumbfucks and and it
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: doesn't they don't have the tools to figure out the
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: damage that they're doing to their own country and their
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: own futures, and they just know that they're getting, you know,
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: a thousand bucks for spending a week doing this, or
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: five thousand or ten thousand or whatever. It's pretty good income,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: right until you realize that it's going to cause a collapse,
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: that that income won't matter and everybody's trading for coffee
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: and toilet paper. But yeah, all of that is happening
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: because of the entitlement culture and the victim culture that
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: feminism created in this country, and in particular, feminist intersectionality
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: made it worse. So, yeah, now transformed America. They should
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: be ashamed of that. During the height of protests against
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: the Vietnam War, Hernandez noticed noted that working classmen and
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: black men represented an outsized number of military members in combat.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: She spoke about access to welfare and the effects of
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: police brutality on black families. Their response from white middle
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: class leaders of now, that's not a women's issue. Turk said,
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: how often DoD feminists tell us that they care about men, Well,
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: we care about men. You got don't care about men.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: You don't do anything for men. We care more about
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: men than you do. But tens of thousands of men
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: dying in a war that maybe the United States shouldn't
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: have been involved in the first place, that's not a
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: women's issue. But it's men's fruetre right.
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: It doesn't matter if men die. It's men's fault. So
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: millions more men should die. Is that men's fault? Yeah,
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: all right, let's kill a bunch of millions more men.
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: Who's in government? Now? Is it sort of a women
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: involved in government? Now? Yes, but it's still not fifty
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: to fifty. I mean, women do have a fifty percent
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: chance of being elected into office, but they don't run
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: for office as much as men do. So it's still
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: only like a quarter of women. Is only one woman
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: for every four men, So it's still men's fault. Okay,
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: When is it gone too far? This is always the
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: question to answer to ask people when has it gone
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: too far? Like how many men have to die before
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: it's gone too far, And the answer from feminists is always, well,
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: are there more men in government than women? And it
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: hasn't gone too far? Are there more straight people in
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: office than there are gay people? Then it's men's fault. Wait,
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: how does that connect? Because getting straight is connected to
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: men and women? Okay, how many transsexual people have to
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: be in office at least fifty to fifty. As long
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: as sis sexual people are sending men to die, then
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: it doesn't matter. We need more transsexual people in office
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: in which and until that happens, we don't care how
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: many men die. Like it's just their way of saying,
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: we don't care how many men die. We will keep
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: moving the goalposts until all the men have died, and
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: then we'll still keep blaming men for everything, And we
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: don't care how many children get killed in the womb
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: by women. That doesn't count. At some point we'll just
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: blame the doctors for it. But but we're not gonna
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: be able to do that yet, so we'll just keep
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: blaming the men. Maybe because most men are doctors. Well
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: they're not, well I guess they are until DEI takes
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: care of that. And most women are docss. Why is
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: it that? Why are so many children getting killed? Well,
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: it's still men's fault. Shut up. Why is anything bad happening?
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: It's because it's because men still exist in society. Why
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: are there still was It's men's fault. Why is there
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: still famine? It's men's fault. Why is there still pestilence?
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: It's men's faults.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: You're chewing grown gum lose its flavor on the bedpost overnight?
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Men's fault.
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: Do you wake up with a Charlie horse? It's men's fault.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Well, its name is Charlie. Clearly it's related to the
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Vietnam War. Yes, yeah, I you know, one of these
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: things that we've been talking about. This there's a lot
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: of what we've been talking about with regard to this
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: article to get pissed off about. Right, but this paragraph.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Hernandez noted that working classmen and black men represented an
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: outsized number of military members in combat. She spoke about
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: access to welfare and the effects of police brutality on
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: black families. Right, this is during the late sixties. This
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: is during the late nineteen sixties, when the baby boomer
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: generation was in college or just starting their professional lives
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: or just a few years into their professional lives. Some
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: of them were still in high school. Right. This is
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: the parent generation of Gen X during the height of
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: when they were taking control of everything, could have addressed
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: those issues at that time. Feminists had the opportunity in
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: that moment to address the issues that led to gang
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: violence all over the country. All over the United States,
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: every city, every state, every county had some kind of
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: gang violence when I was growing up, even rural counties.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: In my generation, we had for those that are younger
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: than us, we had a major phenomenon of kids killing
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: each other over territory and stupid shit like tennis shoes, sneakers,
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: kids selling drugs, kids running around with guns in their pants.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: When it really kind of got started was the children
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: of the boomer generation and yests. There has been discussion
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: about the CIA exacerbating this and engaging in some chitanery
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: in black neighborhoods, and there's also a history of economic discrimination.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Banks pulled some skeezy shit, and then the welfare system
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: when it was first set up, was by design creating
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: single mother homes, and it's the black families were the
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: canary in the coal mine. Okay, so there was all
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: of that going on, the National Organization for Women had
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: the opportunity to come out and say, women are harmed
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: by conditions that take the father out of the household,
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: the father of their children out of the household. Women
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: are harmed by the fact that the husband they rely
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: on to help them raise their children is being sent
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: off to war to die, or pushed out by the
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: federal government, or trod on by the banks and discriminated
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: against by his employer. And instead, well, this isn't a
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: women's issue. We don't care about this, especially when it
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: was a color issue. They had plenty of time. Steez, Okay,
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: they had plenty of time to start addressing this before.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: In the nineteen nineties, kids teenagers were shooting each other
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: over wearing the wrong color of shirt or bandana. How
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: many Gen xers had to attend the funeral of and
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: bury a friend because these women just didn't think it
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: was all that fucking important to have fathers in the homes.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: These women just didn't think it was important at all
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: that the federal government was tearing people's families apart. How
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: many of our generation couldn't go places that our parents
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: got to enjoy because there was too much violence there
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: and how many of our kids generation were raised in
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: single parent homes because of the generational effects of this.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: These women had the opportunity to change the course of history,
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: to restore a system that was working for the benefit
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: of women and our children, and they decided it wasn't
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: a women's issue and they didn't have to care about it.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: And now we have a drug culture in the country
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: that kills hundreds of people a day. We have gang
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: violence that kills hundreds of people a day. We have
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: neighborhoods that have been completely destroyed. Just we have ghost
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: town neighborhoods that were once thriving and beautiful and fun
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: to be in and we're good places to raise a family,
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: that nobody even can live there. Now we have people
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: who are so broken that they can't be restored.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it gives a distinct impression that it was never
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: about helping women or children. Yeah, it was about hurting men.
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: It was about hampering and marginalizing men. And can you
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: believe it that's had detrimental effects on society.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Imagine what it would be like to live in the
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: timeline we're now decided that taking women's partners away from them,
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: you know, like encouraging women to abandon their partnership with
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: men was a women's issue because doing so harmed women.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: Imagine living in a timeline where feminists objected to the
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: draft because killing men is a women's issue, right, because
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: taking men out of women's lives, taking women's partners in
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: everything out of women's lives is a women's issue. Imagine
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: living in a timeline where now decided that actually welfare
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: encouraging women to boot fathers out of the homes is
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: bad for children, and anything that's bad for children is
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: bad for women. Like, we would have an entirely different
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: environment today. I honestly, I look back at this. I
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: wonder if there would have been a division like there
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: is today among groups of people in the country if
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: now had actually stepped up to the plate and addressed
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: this when they had the opportunity. I wonder at the
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Vietnam War the United States would have pulled out sooner.
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: People often like to point to a graph about scientific
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: and technological advances during the Greek and Roman ages, about
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: how it went up and up and up and then
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: crashed down into its old time in the deer during
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: the medieval ages, and they'd like to blame this on
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: Christianity and the Dark Ages over which Christianity resided. I
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: would like to point out that romantic chivalry resided over
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: those ages as well, and over the centuries, we've built
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: ourselves out of it because men were so innovative, so
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: driven to pulling ourselves out of this hole. And is
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: tempting to say that, yeah, if you really push men
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: to their mostly to their excesses, then they can they
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: can do the best they can. And again some Christians
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: will say, oh, well, maybe because it was because of Christianity.
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: Like you know, people will attribute the good things to
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: the ideology to which they pertain, the bad things to
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: anything but the ideology to which they pertain. I given
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: that almost every advancement in science and technology and the
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: arts and the spirituality has been as a result of
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: men discovering things and developing things, I would say the
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: most likely explanation for the Dark Ages was this idea
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: of hampering men in favor of women. And that's what
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: chivalry was, that's what romanticism was. And yes, eventually men
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: got over this or they didn't. They were sort of
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: forced to live within this system and that's when we
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: got the Enlightenment and the Renaissance, and then and then
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: the Modern age. Well, these technological developments. But this in
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: the same way idea logical atheists like to say that
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: it was Christianity that stopped this from happening. I would say, no,
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: a romantic chivalry that stopped this from happening. It didn't
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: even stop it from happening. It just delayed it by
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: some time. And then men adapted to it, as men
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: always do. But if this never happened, then they gradual
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: upwould decline, a would incline whatever it is towards scientific
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: and technological advianncements would have kept happening. The trend would
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: have continued from the Greek and Roman ages if only
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: men were simply allowed to do their own thing. And again,
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: you might say it did happen in the last five
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: hundred years or so, but it wasn't because men were
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: allowed to do their own thing. It was because they
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: were forced to do their own thing in favor of
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: the Wamans. And yeah, if romantic children never happened, we
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: really would be in the future by now or the
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: relative future, we really would have flying cars by rather
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: than people constantly complaining about how transsexual people don't have
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: all the rights they could possibly and all the memes
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: about we should have flying guards by now, but we're
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: fucking arguing about all this shit. And yeah, I'm speculating
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: and spitballing at this point, but yeah, it's difficult to
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: imagine a future in which men were just allowed to
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: be men because for the longest time, men have not
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: been allowed to be men. They have been coerced and
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: threatened into being agents of women's well being. And they
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: didn't need to be because they were already they were
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: already sort of genetically aligned to be agents of women's
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: well being that didn't need to be enforced, Like men
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: don't need to be taught to protect women. It's sort
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: of very much ingrained in us. And yeah, there's no
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: telling where we could be right now if society had
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: just just told men like, fuck women, I mean literally
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: literally fuck women literally. I just go by your instincts
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: when it comes to women, because you'll be fine because
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: your instincts are to protect women, and apart from that,
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: do your thing. If we had never had romantic chivalry,
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: if we had never had any of the of the
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: bullshit that might be associated with Abraharic religions. I know,
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: I don't even know how that plays into it. But
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: if that had never happened, yeah, the year we really
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: would have gone to Mars by now, we would have
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: gone to fucking Neptune by now. So I hope you're
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: listening to Elon. I know you probably not.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: Well, even even if anybody important is listening, A lot
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: of times I think they they responn by suppressing what
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: we have to say, because, like I said, we got
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: pushed into the private zone on that one video. And
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: it's not the first time, and it's not the last
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: time I've discovered that with other videos, and when I
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: discover it, I always take it out of that setting.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: Actually the second time I've had to do that with
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: that particular video. So somebody is really offended by the
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: idea that women's impact on the environment is not entirely positive.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: But in any case, I would say the biggest, biggest
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: contributing factor to modern all the problems we have in
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: modern era has been tolerance for female narcissism, which is
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: basically guyinocentrism, the idea that women are just by virtue
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: of being women without any caveat to what that means,
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: what is expected of women, what gives women value, et cetera,
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: Just by virtue of being women, women are somehow more
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: important and more valuable and more deserving of compassion and
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: consideration than men. Like that idea has been the single
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: worst thing humanity has ever come up with. It's been
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: that idea has been the kind of thing that humanity
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: has come up with with regard to different demographic groups
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: throughout history, and every time it ends in violence and
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: disaster between demographic groups. You end up with genocides, you
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: end up with wars, you end up with created famines
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: being created, you end up with with poverty, you end
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: up with civilizations just crumbling because of it. And those
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: are with local demographic issues. We have a worldwide problem here.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: We have this mind virus that has spread throughout the
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: entire world with this idea that one demographic of people
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: is more human than everybody else and deserves more compassion,
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: consideration and more of a seat at the human rights
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: table than everybody else. And that demographic is women. Adult women.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: They outweigh men, they outweigh children of both sexes. And
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: as a result, we've had the changes that we've had
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: in the world are things like behavior in between individuals
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: being treated differently depending on whether the person engaging in
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: the behavior is male or female, and whether the person
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: experiencing it is male or female. A crime carries less
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: accountability when a woman is the perpetrator, and being a
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: crime victim receives less compassion when a man is the victim,
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: or even when the victim is the victim of a
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: female perpetrator. Right, And it all boils down to excusing
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: women when they behave like that. Right. We have the
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: actual biggest cause of human death in the world, the
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: one that doesn't get counted by the World Health Organization
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: or your nation's main health organization, like in the United States,
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: it's the Centers for Disease Controlled that documents this stuff.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: They don't count it. But the biggest cause of human
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: death in the world is being aborted during gestation. More
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: human beings are killed by being aborted during gestation than
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: by heart conditions, cardiopulmonary cardiovascular conditions, things that are cited
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: as leading causes of death, cancer, war, starvation, things that
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: we can't help, disease. All of these are outnumbered individually
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: by being aborted, And yet women still crow about not
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: having reproductive rights. Women have reproductive rights. They don't have
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: any reproductive responsibilities. They're not responsible for taking control the
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: control that's available over their reproductive activities. Like you have
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: the choice whether or not to say yes. You have
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: the choice who with when, how how many times, what
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: birth control you're using, what birth control you're requiring as
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: a condition of your consent, and what you do during gestation,
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: and what you do after birth. You can you know,
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: women can still choose safe haven abandonment, they can choose adoption,
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: they can choose to share custody with the father. They
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: don't have to be single mothers. And yet in the
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: United States, that's because, I mean, the the biggest group
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: of mothers is single mothers by choice.
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: But we can just define a certain kind of murder
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: it's not murder, just like we can define a certain
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: kind of genital mutilation is not genital mutilation. We can define,
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: we can a certain kind of rape is not rape,
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: and a certain kind of domestic abuse is not domestic abuse,
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: and a certain kind of harassment is not harassment. We
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: just we could just say things are what we say
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: they are and not not what the words are supposed
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: to mean.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: That if we define a tail as a leg, how
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: many legs does a dog have as.
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: Many legs as we say it has? It has twelve
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: legs because we've added another fucking eight legs.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: I think a dog appede would be the cutest little fucker.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: But seriously, no, no, that would not be cute. That
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: would be the stuff that nightmares are made of. Hannah,
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, it wouldn't be nice for the dog.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: It would it'd be adorable for the you know, like,
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: but it'd be wouldn't be nice for that. It'd be
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: like those that'd be like little cats that there was
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: a mutation a few years back where a cat's legs
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: was born with its legs too short, and everybody's like, Oh,
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: that's so cute, let's make more of them. And they
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: are adorable, but they're handicapped. Like, it's not something you
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: should do to your pet on purpose. And I know
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: there's gonna be people mad at me for saying that,
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: but they're being deliberately bred for that. Now, that's not
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: fair to them. And I oh, I wouldn't do that
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: to a dog either. I wouldn't breathe a dog with
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: twelve legs, But if there was one out there, I
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: would certainly be hard pressed to refrain from adopting it.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm I'm allergic to them, wouldn't it.
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't breed a dog with a weird ridge on
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: its back, or a weird face that it can't breathe
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: out of, or a weird set of tiny legs that
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: it could barely run. Sorry, yeah, I wouldn't. They a
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: lot of people off right now because there are so
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: many dogs that are like that because they think they're cute. Sorry,
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: that's not cute. If you think that shit is cute,
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: there's something wrong with you.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: A couple of friends, if you're familiar with our history
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: and seven years in Hell, guy and his wife, Actually
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: they rescue. They do dog rescue, and they do get
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: a lot of dogs that are purebread rejects or people
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: have bought a purebread dog and then realize the health
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: problems that these dogs have and failed to take proper
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: care or become abusive, if not neglectful. So yeah, it's
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: there's a lot to be said about reining in what
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: we are doing to animals with our ideas of what's cute.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: Just saying like that's just a little odd tangent there,
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: but a lot of that actually is to be fair
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: female driven, right, because when you look at the history
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: of breeding animals, animal husbandry, for farms and work, they're
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: bred to have characteristics that make them smarter, stronger, faster,
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: more skilled at something like better sniffers, right, better better runners,
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: you know, things like that. But when you look at
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: the purse puppy culture, those end up being the dogs
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: that are bred to have some ridiculous health problem causing
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: feature that makes them difficult to take care of and
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: often creates personality issues in the dog as well. Now,
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: and it's not to say that men never have bred
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: dogs for bad purposes, because pit bulls are an example
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: where these dogs were bred to be violent, and that
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: you had the ones that were bred to be used
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: as guard dogs, and then you had the ones that
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: were clearly bred to kill each other in a pit,
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: fighting in a pit.
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: And then there's the spit dog. Does everyone remember the
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: tern spit dog? There was a dog that was bred
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: to run on a on a sort of circular treadmill
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: to turn a car spit Yeah, yeah, because they because
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: they didn't have the machines available at the time to
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: constantly turn the spit that turns the kebab so it
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: can be heated regularly. What a trad it was that
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: the turnspit dog that was genocided, right, that the turn
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: spit dog was no longer bred, so that that poor
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: species could know that poor subspecies of dog could no
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: longer exist. No, it wasn't It wasn't a tragedy. It
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: was a tragedy that such a breed of dog was
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: was ever created in the first place, whose only reason
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: is only raison detro was to run on a circular
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: treadmill so as to turn a fucking kebab. Well, pit
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: bulls are cold pit bulls because they were bred to
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: fight each other to the death in pits. Like, would
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: it really be a tragedy if that breed was discontinued?
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: We had one abandon in my neighborhood, not too long.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: It's like last year, last summer, possibly the summer prior.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: It's been a busy year, but I still remember, like,
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: look at this poor thing. You know. Of course everybody's
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: afraid to approach it because we don't know what environment
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: it came from, and we don't know if like there
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: is a genetic defect that happens with some pit bulls
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: where they just lose their shit for no reason, and
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: it's not the same as your regular like if if
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: you set one off because you've done something mean to it,
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: or it's been trained to do something, or like one
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: minute the dog is fine, in the next minute it's
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: trying to kill something. And so people kept their kids
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: inside and everything. And then the worst part was the
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: city organizations that are supposed to be dealing with animal
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: problems where somebody's abandoned a dog, or you have raccoons
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: that are entering a building, or there's a skunk problem,
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: like we had a skunk problem after the Memorial Day tornadoes.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: They literally got dropped by the tornado in our neighborhood.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: It was really bad, but they wouldn't come and get
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: the dog, and we couldn't get any of the organizations
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: that usually help with stray animals to come and get
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: the dog. And we finally threw the grapevine found a
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: person who rescues pit bulls to come and get the dog.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: But it was like with out that individual, like all
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: of the systems that are supposed to be in place
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: for handling a situation like this completely failed, and that
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: one individual that took the initiative on their own was
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: the rescue for the neighborhood in for this dog. And
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: of course we don't know after that what happened, because
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: we don't know what this person found out about the dog.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: It wasn't somebody that we were directly connected to. But
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: it's a really rotten situation. We had a kid in
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: my neighborhood when I was growing up, though, was killed
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: that way. Like his neighbor had a dog that had
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: a pitbull that seemed like just your perfectly normal dog.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: Nothing was going on, there was nobody picking on the dog,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: and yeah, it all of a sudden just snapped and
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: just just mauled this kid to death with no warning.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: So it's just one of those things that you know,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: my kids were grown at the time and not living here.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: But if they'd have been younger and we had been
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: told what we were told on the phone when we
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: called for help, I'd have been livid. I'd been going
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: to city council meetings. Why aren't you guys doing something
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: about this is a very serious situation. This is an
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: actual threat. This is as bad as having a coyote
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: in the neighborhood, which we did once as well. They
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: came and got that right away. Actually it's worse because
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: coyotes have a tendency to if they see you, they're
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: going the other direction. They don't want anything to do
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: with you. But yeah, and.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: It's the same. It's the same with feminists. We're not
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: talking about killing women. We're talking about discontinuing.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: This this guynes centrism breed.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: Of women that have been trained to fight each other
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: to death in pitts.
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  Speaker 3: All right, this is really a very simple situation here.
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  Speaker 3: Compassion belongs to all human beings. It is the responsibility
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: of all human beings, and all human beings are deserving
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: of it from birth to death, period like that. That's it.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: Being female doesn't make you more more deserving of compassion.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: It just makes you one half of what it means
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: to be human. The other half is male. At the
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: same time, now leaders put their full weight behind pushing
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: for the ratification of the Equal Rights Amendment, which would
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: add specific gender protections to the US Constitution. By the way,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: at that time it had a caveat that it only
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: protected women. It wasn't actually about equal protection then and
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: now some women of color within the organization felt the
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: measure did not go far enough to address their immediate needs.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: Race was a problem for NOW from the beginning, Turk added,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: but many women of color saw enough potential in the
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: organization structure and mission to work through those challenges. They
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: should have abandoned it. They should have gone off on
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: their own and formed their own organization. Maybe that with
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: them being less shortsighted than the other women in the organization,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: things would have been better today. I think things would
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: have been way better today if they had done that.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: They would have at least figured out because they seem
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: to have understood that you can't exclude men from compassion
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: and you can't exclude men from your recognition of human value.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: Now helped change the law and culture surrounding conversations about
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: women's rights, and it took off in the nineteen sixties
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: and seventies. The group served as a quote big tent
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: for women all over the country to harness power through
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: collective action on a range of issues they cared about.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: Turk said, reminder, feminists claim that women have had no
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: power and no authority, no influence. Apparently now was completely worthless.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: Now it was not just about sitting around and theorizing.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: It was all about taking action and organizing. Turk said,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: you could form a chapter anywhere you just find nine
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: other people. It's this flexible tool that's strong enough to
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: be lobbying before Congress and influencing the national policy debate.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: But it's locally rooted. That sounds like power and influence
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: to me. Doesn't that sound like power and influence you guys.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, we've been told for the last twenty years
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: of pushing for equally shared parenting rights, for the last
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: thirteen years or so of being online doing it, that
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: feminists are not our enemy. It's the patriarchy that's responsible
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: for all of the legal changes we're complaining about. Feminists
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: have had nothing to do with that. That's what we've
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: been told. We've been told that a feminist didn't change
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: animate partner in sexual violence law, Feminists didn't attack d process,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: Feminists didn't do anything to hinder family court reform, or
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: none of that stuff was related. Feminist organizations have achieved
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: nothing over the last sixty years or so. But now then,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: according to this article, this is a very powerful organization.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: This is like one of the most powerful organizations in
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: the country. And by the way, this is the organization
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: that for the last sixty years they fought every advancement
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: that fathers have made in family court where custody is concerned.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: They opposed joint custody as a thing. They wanted the
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: the default to be maternal custody with paternal visitation in
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: every divorce. And although the divorce would be no fault,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: but men, if they wanted custody of their children, if
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: they wanted a different arrangement than that should have to
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: fight for it in court, according to feminists, because otherwise
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: they would abuse their children. That was their argument, that
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: judges would be placing children with abusive fathers right. They
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: demonized dads as dead beats and abusers. They said men
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: only wanted to be around their children to avoid paying childs.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: That was their that was their argument. And then when
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: joint custody became a thing and father's groups started pushing
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: for shared parenting laws, which added some rights to the
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: joint custody arrangement but pretty much left the time division alone,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: feminists got that same They pulled that same argument out
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: of their asses and claimed that this would result in
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: more child abuse and less child support. They argued that
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: men only wanted to be in the loo on medical
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: decisions for their children and decisions in the school system
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: and stuff like that so that they could deny their
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: children resources and abuse them. That was their argument. And then,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: of course, now that equally shared parenting is the thing
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: being pushed for, where it's it's like fifty to fifty time,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: they're going ballistic and they've pulled out that same argument
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: out of their asses.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: That.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: Men only want men only want time with their kids
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: to avoid paying child support, when in reality, what they're
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: doing is they're projecting it's women only want to deny
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: father's time with the kids because they can use doing
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: the majority of caregiving as an excuse to collect child support.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: Women only want full custody with with scant visitation because
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: if they only have the kids half the time, they
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: don't have an excuse to demand child support, especially if
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: they have equal earning capacity. So you know, when it
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: comes down to itemist feminist tele you one way or another,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: what's on their minds. And since between seventy and eighty
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: percent of divorce involves the mother forcing the father out
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: of the house, literally filing for divorce, having the police
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: come and tell me as to leave and then demanding
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: money from him. It's pretty obvious what's actually going on here.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: But for the last sixty years, National Organization for Women
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: have argued that women should be able to do that,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: to kick a man out of the house and still
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: retain all access to his wallet and anything that they
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: think might interfere with that access to his wallet. They
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: blame on men, But the tension between women of color
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: and white women within the organization persisted go and it
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: continued to deepen into the NIE and as the subject
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: of intersectionality gained more popularity. So, and this is the
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: fitting because in the nighties, that's kind of when the
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: epidemic of unwed motherhood kind of started to take off
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: and the divorce epidemic start to take off. You also
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: had the issue of the epidemic of teenage violence started
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: to take off because you had more kids being raised
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: in homes that the father had been evicted from by
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: the mother and by the state. So yeah, of course
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: with this this hitting the black population and other minority
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: populations harder and first because of the circumstances being different
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: in how it was introduced. Yeah, it would have created
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: more tension even well into the tousands. Intersectionality was a
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: word that confused and even angered many of now's white members,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: O'Neill said. O'Neil recounted that during her time as president
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty thirteen or twenty fourteen, she pushed to
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: change NOW statement of purpose to include a focus on
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: intersectional activism. The subject ignited fierce debate during a national conference.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: She said, well, there's a reason for that. NOW also
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: includes radical feminists, and radical feminists are not necessarily an intersectional.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: The intersectional feminists have tried to bring men in masculinity
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: into feminisms. They sort of try to co opt men's issues.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: So radical feminists are anti male all the way, and
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: because they are anti male all the way, and gender
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: feminists are sort of radical feminist light, radical feminists are
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: gender feminists heavy, they all are at odds with each other,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: and so you have the trans movement sort of came
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: out of intersectional feminism. Oddly enough, gender feminists and radical
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: feminists refer to trans wominists and activists, so it's con
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: full circle, like they can't make up their minds what
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: they do and don't support as a movement, and the
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: sub sections of feminism infight. But they do all have
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: the victim narrative, the patriarchy victim narrative as their underlying scaffolding.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: Every version of feminism is built on that.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: I have made their minds up as to what they
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 5: don't support, and it's mat yep.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: Intersectional feminists will pretend they will, they'll talk about they'll
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: talk about men's issues from the perspective of treating men
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: as being broken because of the ways in which they
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: are different from women, instead of talking about men as
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: having deserving independence from female control. Like they won't they
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: won't agree to that. But if the subject United Fierce
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: Debate said there's women at the microphone yelling at me.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: Take that word out of there. Nobody knows what it means,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: we will look stupid. O'Neill said, I believe, Yeah, there
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: we go. This exchange captured a growing generational divide that
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: continues to plague now. O'Neill said, white women, baby boomers,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: raised on the flawed promises of a colorblind society are
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: angered by critiques that force them to examine their own
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: roles in a white supremacist patriarchy. So again, you have
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: two subsets of feminism at war there right, there's the
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: utopian feminism of Fourier, that the belief that you could
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: erase the conflicts that arise around differences between people of
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: different backgrounds, cultures, races, capabilities, religions, and so on. Rather
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: than learning to navigate those conflicts and negotiate those conflicts,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: you just they have to go away.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 5: It's yeah, it's how do we control our own men? Yeah,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 5: do we control them because they're men? Or do we
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 5: control them because they're white? And again, the same thing
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: happens with any other given race or sub race of women.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: It's it's always been about controlling their own men, the
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 5: men that they consider to be their property. And yeah,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: it's the same with the government. The government's only interested
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: in controlling the people they consider to be their property.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: And in the West that is Western men, which is
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 5: predominantly white men. It's the same thing. I call it
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: micophobia a lot, but it's it's sort of moss inis
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 5: than that. It's that we are white, and so we
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 5: must control the white people. And we are men, so
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 5: we must control the male people. And it's not as
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 5: though we are females, so we must control the female
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 5: people because This whole ideology started with feminism, which is,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 5: we are females, so we must control the male people,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 5: the male people who we consider to be our property,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: and in the case of white women, that men. We
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 5: must control our white men, which which only took off
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 5: in the last half century or so, but it sort
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: of explains why there's been this unholy alliance between between
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 5: Western women and Eastern men, because because Western women don't
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 5: consider Eastern men to be their property, they see them
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 5: as guests on their property, and they don't really care
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: how much they get raped by those Eastern men, because.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: Well, they use them. They use threat of that as
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: a means of controlling their men too. During the sixties,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: when this was playing out the beginning of the conflict
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: between different segments of the National Organization for Women, white
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: women were still using men, you know, men of color,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: men of minority status as a I guess a mcguffin,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: you know, or basically, you know, you have to you
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: have to do these things to protect us from these
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: these other men of other racial backgrounds, and you know,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: treating them like they were savage and dangerous and scary,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: and then flirting with them and so on. But then
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: turning around and pretending to be offended or pretending to
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: be victimized by the result. There was quite a bit
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: of that still going on during the nineteen sixties. I'm
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: getting a weird message from restream h I need people
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: to let me know if they can still hear us.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: That's really weird. And it just disappeared, so hopefully everything.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: Maybe it was just my internet connection being stupid. It
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: did that on Tuesday too, so but but in any case, yeah,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: that just kind of technical difficulties with the badgers. So
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna answer a question from chat Christmas Zuma
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: wants to know why women have excluded men from the family.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: So the first good I'm glad you can hear me.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: The first thing that seemed to persuade women to kick
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: men out of the family actually was welfare dollars. So
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: money was the original reason for the uptick in women
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: kicking men out of the family. They basically got paid
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: by the government to do it. The statements made by
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: women and surveys are often that they have complaints that
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: really boil down to a lack of compassion for men men.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: Women kick men out of the family because they don't
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: care how a guy's work may be different from their
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: office job. They want him to come home from his
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: construction job and before he rests or anything else, vacuum
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  Speaker 3: the carpet, wash the dishes, do the laundry. They don't
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  Speaker 3: want to count if he does yard work or is
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  Speaker 3: the car or fixes that creaking step on the stairway
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  Speaker 3: as housework, by the way, and as it turns out,
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  Speaker 3: they also don't want to count if he does the laundry,
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  Speaker 3: the dishes, or the vacuuming. When you look at statistics
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  Speaker 3: on who does housework and how much, you find out
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  Speaker 3: that women if they put a load in the washer
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  Speaker 3: and then the washer runs for an hour, and then
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: they take the load out and put it in the dryer,
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  Speaker 3: and the dryer runs for an hour, and then they
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  Speaker 3: spend twenty minutes folding it, they count that as two
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  Speaker 3: hours and twenty minutes worth of work. Whereas if a
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  Speaker 3: man does the same exact thing, those two hours don't
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  Speaker 3: get counted, and he cants it to this twenty minutes
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  Speaker 3: worth of work. And when you count equally, so that
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: the same aspects of the jobs are being counted and
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  Speaker 3: the time related to those aspects is being counted, equally.
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  Speaker 3: You find that men actually do more housework than women.
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  Speaker 3: Men also work longer hours at more often harder jobs,
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  Speaker 3: jobs that are made less emotionally rewarding but more necessary
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  Speaker 3: in society and so on, and so you find that overall,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: between housework and labor at work, men are doing more,
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  Speaker 3: but women get resentful and they push them out. They
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  Speaker 3: get bored, and they push them out. Most of the
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: time when women initiate divorce, it's not because of abuse,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: and it's not because of cheating. It's because they don't
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: recognize what the man is doing, and so they treat
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  Speaker 3: him as though he's not doing as much, and they
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  Speaker 3: resent him, and instead of talking about it, they let
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  Speaker 3: it build up in their heads until they've changed their
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: minds about the relationship, and then they initiate divorce and
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  Speaker 3: they can because they get paid for it. The state
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: steps in and takes the man's place. So it's a
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: really bad system, and the National Organization for Women for that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to go ahead in I think we are
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  Speaker 3: close to the end of this.
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  Speaker 4: We may not be.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we are. We're close to the ind this article,
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  Speaker 3: so I'm going to go ahead and finish it up.
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  Speaker 3: We just read white supremacist patriarchy, which the patriarchy of
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: feminist imagining doesn't exist, and the white supremacy of feminist
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: imagining doesn't exist either. They see their own oppression very
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: very very clearly, and it's very hard for them to
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: see the oppression of women of color in any other
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: terms than the terms of their own oppression, she said. O'Neil,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: a white woman, admitted that she also made mistakes and
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: faced criticism from women of color during her time and
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: Now's leadership, and had to evolve the way she considers
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: the intersections of different marginalized backgrounds. Erickson said Now's leadership
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: remains stuck in the past, which he believes is contributing
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: to declines in membership that and could threaten the organizations sustainability.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: Thank God, I will say this, the National Organization for
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: Women's failure to consider the impact on families when men
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: are taken out of the home did a significant amount
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: of damage in the specifically in the black population of
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: the United States. So it is fair for black feminists
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: to be angry at white feminists for this. What is
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: what is their big mistake here is that thinking that
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: feminism is not the problem, that that that racism is
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: the problem. Feminism is the problem because feminism blames men
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: solely for all of the issues faced in the world
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: by women, when in fact we just by talking about
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: this and talking about what feminism changed and what happens
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: in families when you take the father out of the family,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: when you get this increase in likelihood of criminality, this
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: increase in likelihood of unwed parenthood, and the issues then
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: become generational. Feminists causes a lot of women's own problems,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: Like if feminism never existed, a lot of the problems
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: that women face today would either be significantly reduced or
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: non existent altogether. And so black feminists are looking at
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: the wrong vehicle to solve the problems that they are
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: asking feminism. And actually Christmaszumo wants to say that men
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: also voted for big Daddy government. But this is the problem,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: is that that's not actually true. More men vote against
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: expansions of government, more men vote to keep their money,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: more women vote for safety nets, and our entire culture
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: changed when women got voting rights. The first thing that
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: they started doing was voting for candidates that promised them
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: safety nets and government programs and expansion of social programs
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: that our country was never supposed to develop. So, yeah,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: we're in a situation where it's really not acceptable to
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: claim that men are as responsible for women or as
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: women for this. And no, Black feminists don't need to
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: get to the back of the bus. They need to
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: ditch the bus and get themselves a more effective vehicle
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: because the bus isn't taking them anywhere good. This is
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: a bad bus. Ericson said Now his leadership remains stuck
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: in the past. We read that one in twenty twenty.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: In a twenty twenty interview with a Daily Beast, Yazzi
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: stated that NOW wanted her as a token rather than
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: a full functioning vice president. Nunas did not use the
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: word token in her own description, but she said she
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: and Yazzi shared similar experiences Externally, Nunas said she received
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: overwhelmingly positive feedback from NOW members and other outside observers.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: During her time as president. Nuna's led initiatives like Now
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: Is Unlocked the Future campaign, which demands humane treatment for
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: detained immigrant families, particularly women and girls fleeing sexual violence, assault,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: and poverty. She also spearheaded racial equity training across the organization,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: including now's grassroots chapters. The board did not push back
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: on these initiatives because it makes the organization look good,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: Nuna said, but the broader pushback she faced made it
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: difficult to do her job. The internal strife it now
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: reflects a larger flashpoint in liberal political leadership during President
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump's second term. Democrat leaders appear to be torn
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: between pressure from moderate and progressive voters, who all want
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: the party to fight harder for their needs. So the
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: more I'm looking at this, the more I'm seeing that
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: their problem with her isn't because she's black. Their problem
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: with her is because she's She doesn't have a narrow visions.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: She's got a broader vision pun intended, I guess, and
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: the people who have a problem with her don't have
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: that broad of a vision. That's an issue. She may
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: be better for the organization, although personally I would like
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: to see the organization fizzle out, and like with her
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: on the Vine, I don't think it's a good organization.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: I'm not even sure someone like this could redeem it,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: because they're still coming. They're all still coming from the
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: idea that man man, bad, woman good and you know,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: man evil woman victim. So it's an issue, and it
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know that. I don't know that even having
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: a broader vision that includes recognizing the need for men
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: and women to work together can redeem an organization that
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: has that as its backbone. It's just a thing. If
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: your organization scaffolding is poisonous, you can't build a non
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: poisonous organization around that. In the weeks after the twenty
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: twenty four election, liberal advocacy groups told The Nineteenth that
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: today's political movement or moment calls for more strategic action
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: rooted in grassroots organizing like Now hasn't always done that.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: Women of color organizers say that more work needs to
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: be done nationally and locally to center their perspectives. National
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: organizations like Now, the Feminist Majority, found Out, and the
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: American Association of University Women have grappled in recent years
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: with accusations of racism and claims that toxic white feminism
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: runs rampant. O'Neill said she questions whether or now, with
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: its current structure and leadership is capable of meeting those
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: demands for change. Nunez says she sees some promise in
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: local Now chapters, but a bigger shift needs to happen
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: in national and state leadership. I think some chapters are
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: effective in leading from an anti racist and intersectional approach.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: Duna says, However, the alienation many women of color experience
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: and reported experiencing, makes it very challenging for now to
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: move forward authentically and intentionally. So what we're seeing here,
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: I think is a war between gender feminists and intersectional feminists,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: and the intersectional feminists are using their broader spectrum of
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: isms and phobias as a weapon against gender feminists. The
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: intersectional feminists, in terms of their opposition to gender feminists,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: have some points, but every single one of those points
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: undermines their female victim narrative. So I don't know what's
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: going to happen with feminism, which which group is going
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: to ultimately win. If they want to continue to believe
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: in the idea that masculinity is the root of all
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: evil and femininity is the root of all salvation, they're
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: going to have to abandon intersectionality because it's not a
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: racial issue. It's not a sexuality issue. It's only a
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: gender issue, right, But if they want to bring in
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: the idea that these issues can affect people on the
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: basis of these other characteristics, even if they're male, they're
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: going to have to abandon the gender aspect. If intersectionality
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: takes over, you'll probably see feminists at some point having
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: to abandon patriarchy theory, and who knows where the where
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: the movement will go from there. If they abandon patriarchy theory,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: it will be an interesting thing to watch.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 5: Abandoned patriarchy theory, they'll keep parasitizing men, both the intercessionalists
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 5: and the I don't even know what the opposing faction
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 5: of feminism is even called that opposes intercesional feminism inists
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 5: called they call it white feminism, they call them turfs
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 5: or whatever. But it doesn't matter because they keep They're
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 5: going to keep parasitizing men for as long as they
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 5: can get away with it, and they will keep getting
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 5: away with it because even the people we call right
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 5: wing are still talking about how we can best protect
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 5: women against either against what whatever faction of men, either
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 5: section of the feminist war is going to keep demonizing
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 5: as the problem, whether it's men pretending to be women
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 5: or men in the Middle East or whatever, they're gonna
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 5: they're going to keep going. We need to fight back
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 5: against men because men are the problem. Like this is
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 5: all I hear from the right wing, and it's all
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 5: here from the left wing. We have to save certain
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 5: kinds of women from the men of their cultures, and
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 5: it's it's it's just going to carry on because there's
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 5: not many people speaking out against it. It's kind of
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 5: us and a few other space lepers and and they're
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 5: going to keep and they're going to keep going. Those
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 5: people are full of ship. We need to save women.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 5: We need to save some of some of the women
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 5: from some of the men, because I don't want to
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 5: say it's genetically built into us, but it's been sociopolitically
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 5: built into us for so long that there's very few
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 5: people out there who can even see through this bullshit.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 5: And people are going to keep going, Yeah, we need
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 5: we need to save the men. We need to save
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 5: the women from the men. It might be the women here,
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 5: it might be the women over there. It's always going
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 5: to be. We need to save some of the women
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 5: from some of the men, the vast majority of the
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 5: population is never going to even consider the idea that
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 5: maybe women don't need.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: To be If anything, if women need to be saved
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: from anything, it's themselves. It's these dumb ideas that women
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: have come up with. But you know, when it boils
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: down to it, like what we're basically looking at is
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: women using victimhood as a shield against being accountable for
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: themselves and their decisions in a variety of ways. That's
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: basically it. When we stop allowing that our society will
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: have an opportunity to advance. But I will also leave
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: you with a question all listeners, I want you to
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: consider something because we in our previous episodes, prior to
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: getting into USA spending and everything, we've been going through
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: history and looking at the history of suffrage. And we
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: still have upcoming issue or discussions that I still have
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: to get them organized. But I need to talk about
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: war history in relation to this, because you can't separate
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: the history of voting rights from the history of war.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: Are they are intertwined. In fact, the history of war
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: caused the history of voting rights. I will point this
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: out when we have looked at the history specifically of
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: women's voting rights. What we have found is that women's
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: interest in voting rights was not a grassroots movement. It
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: was establishment led, establishment promoted and pushed, and the women
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: of the grassroots had to be browbeaten into it. They
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: had to be consistently bombarded with you want this, you
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: want this, you need this, you have to have this,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: you have to want this. You're not really a good
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: woman if you don't want this. You're hurting other women
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: if you don't want this, and so on, you shouldn't
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: have the right to vote on this. By the way,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: we want to make the men just give it to
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: all women, whether you're asking for it or not. And
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: then eventually the establishment got what it wanted and women
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: got voting rights. The establishment's purpose for that was not
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: to benefit women, So you ought to consider what they
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 3: really wanted when they did that, because the thing that
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: happened afterwards was at the political establishment, the business establishment,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: the government establishment, they all got more power, significantly more
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: power over the lives of individuals in every country where
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: women got the right to vote. So with that, we
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: don't have any other super chat super chows or rumble
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: rants or anything. I will end the episode. Thanks everybody
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: for listening. Thanks to my to co hosts for going
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: over this this article with me. Next week we are
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: going to find out what the National Organization for Women
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: is mad about in regard to the current Trump administration.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: And so that's what you have to look forward to
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: next week. Thanks everybody, and we'll see you next Thursday.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 6: Can I all men's right activists are machines, dude? Okay,
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 6: they are literal machines. They are talking point machines. They
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 6: are impossible to fucking deal with, especially if you have,
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 6: like especially if you have like a couple dudes who
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 6: have good memory on top of that too, Holy shit,
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 6: you're fucked