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EP.72: Outgrowing Your Comfort Zone Hurts w/ Taylor Nardone | The Ambitious Podcast · Ambitious Podcast

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  Sometimes we have these lofty dreams and there's a part of us
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  that goes, oh, well, see, I really can't get there.
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  See, I'm really not worthy. No, if you move incrementally,
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  properly, you can get there. You know when our heads in the
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  sand, we can't even see possibility.
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  Imposter syndrome is being honest and having sobering
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  truths with yourself about the next step you need to take you.
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  Had all those beliefs and you had all these events that
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  happened and it's LED you to now and all of the pain or failure,
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  if that's how you choose to perceive it, is the reason
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  you're here. It doesn't matter how much money
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  you have, how little you have. We all have those wounds.
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  All of us are walking around imperfect.
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  I've always found myself wanting to have the perfect picture of
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  what was going to happen. Let's be honest, it's a little
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  baptism by fire down here, you know?
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  It's like, oh, you want me to? You want me to jump off the
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  Cliff? Yes.
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  If I just focus on the next step, what if my dream doesn't
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  happen? Or what if the destination
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  doesn't occur? What if the result doesn't
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  happen? When you release the internal
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  timeline, that's freedom. Hi and welcome back.
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  I am so excited to have you here and you're going to just love
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  today's episode. I will say I left this interview
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  feeling like buzzed, feeling just full of energy.
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  And you're going to feel it too after you tune in because Taylor
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  is absolutely incredible. I am honored today to be joined
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  by Taylor Nardone, who is just so many things.
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  He's a mentor, he's a creative, he's a guide, and he's just
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  someone who supports all different kinds of online
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  businesses, business owners, entrepreneurs.
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  And most importantly, one of the things that I know that he
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  really emphasizes is the ability for us to enjoy the process and
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  also to understand how to actually show up in a way that
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  is honest and sustainable for us and in a way that really allows
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  us as business owners and entrepreneurs to express
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  ourselves. And so Taylor Nardone has a
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  background in both marketing and mentorship.
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  He helps entrepreneurs to really reconnect with their voice, not
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  for performance, but for their truth.
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  Taylor's work centers around alignment, emotional safety, and
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  building a business that does not require you to feel like you
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  constantly need to prove yourself.
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  He brings a grounded, reflected presence to an industry that, to
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  be honest, often rewards speed and polished and inviting people
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  back into. The slowness is his thing.
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  He's looking at clarity and ownership and giving you back
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  the driver's seat of how you show up in your life and in your
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  business. And honestly, we unpacked a lot
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  within this episode. We talk about why entrepreneurs
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  secretly present their content and what that actually really
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  means for you and your business. We talk about the pressure to be
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  on all the time and what it's truly costing you.
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  We talk about how Taylor restructured his business to
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  really support his nervous system and what was coming up
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  the line between visibility and where you actually move into
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  self exploitation when you're posting online.
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  What happens when you grow an audience that actually isn't
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  aligned with who you are? Why slowing down doesn't mean
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  you're falling behind. Why letting go of the identity
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  that you've built your past success around can actually be
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  something that impacts your business.
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  How Taylor found clarity after walking away from a business
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  that no longer felt like it was his.
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  And the problem with trying to make everything marketing.
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  And most importantly, how to create a business that actually
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  feels like home. We just covered so much today,
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  and I can't tell you how much on this episode, it even hit and
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  transformed me in this conversation.
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  And so I cannot wait for you to dive in.
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  So without further ado, let's get into our episode with Taylor
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  Nordo. Hello you guys and welcome back
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  to Ambitious. I will say I am nerding out
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  today and I'm like fangirling a little bit over here because
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  today I am so excited to be joined by Taylor.
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  A little context, Taylor I actually found on the Internet,
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  which is what we all desire. I found him on the Internet and
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  every video I scrolled, I went one after another and I felt
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  better and better and better listening to him.
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  And if I could make him my alarm clock, I would.
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  So I very transparently slid into his DMS and I was like, I
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  need to be around you for 60 minutes, if not longer.
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  And so I'm so excited to have you here today, Taylor, and just
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  like hear all of your goodness and share it with anybody who
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  hasn't yet been exposed to it. So welcome to Ambitious.
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  Thank you so much for having me. No, we were just chatting.
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  I mean, I'm so excited to be here.
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  The sliding into the DMS, anyone listening?
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  It works. It works.
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  Slide on there everybody. I've never done it for dating.
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  This is the first time, actually, transparently, that
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  I've ever slid into someone's DMS in this nature.
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  But after this experience, I'm fully into it.
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  I see it, yeah. And by the way, you sent me some
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  voice notes. And that's it's like, boom.
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  Yes. Make it personal.
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  Yeah. Make it personal.
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  Give that tone. For sure it works.
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  It works. So obviously for anybody who's
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  not super familiar with your work or maybe hasn't been
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  exposed to it yet, give us like a quick synopsis on kind of
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  obviously you, at least for myself, you deeply motivate me
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  and inspire me and activate me anytime that I listen to you
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  speak on really frankly any topic.
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  And so I'm curious what kind of got you into this work and like,
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  what are the core things that if someone hasn't gone to your
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  content yet, they're kind of like the basis of what you love
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  to dive into? I love that question.
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  First of all, you said activate. Yes, actually at the beginning
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  of this journey when I started working as a life and
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  breakthrough coach, which is still what I do now, I, I called
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  a lot of my programs the activation because that's what I
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  think it does for a lot of people.
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  So hopefully it does activate people.
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  You know what? So I go by a couple of quotes
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  that I absolutely love that I think embody really my work
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  collectively. So the first one is by Wayne
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  Dyer, and he says when you change the way you look at
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  things, the things you look at change.
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  And so my job is to really come online.
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  I want to lift your spirits. I want to make you smile.
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  I want to give you some joy. But I want to start to lift your
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  head above the chaos so that you change the way you're viewing
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  things and that you actually start to walk through anything
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  and any of those illusions that have been holding you back
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  because I call them illusions, right?
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  All of that fear. So my job is to empower you, but
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  to also show you the truth of who you are, right?
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  And so when you have that feeling after you watch a video,
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  if it's mine or if it's, you know, anyone else who's who's
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  kind of motivating and inspiring you, that's your soul kind of
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  coming to the front going, yes, right, yes, walk in that
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  direction. That's it.
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  So that's what I hope to do. And I think the other quote that
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  I absolutely love and that I go by quite often, I actually have
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  it in my community. It's at the top.
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  It's by CS Lewis and it says don't look at me, look at where
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  I'm pointing. So I want to point you up in the
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  right direction. I want you to be able to lift
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  your head. So kind of going with the first
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  quote, right, changing the way you look at things.
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  But that's my hope. You know, I hope that if people
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  start scrolling that they will be able to just, you know, soak
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  up something and start to shift the way they're viewing even
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  just life right now. It's exciting to think about
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  possibility, but if you can change the way you're viewing
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  things right now, that opens up possibility.
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  So that's my goal. Absolutely.
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  And if someone like, first of all, even just listening to his
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  voice, how soothing, right? Like can he please do meditation
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  tapes, Honestly. But honestly, the videos that
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  I've consumed of you have made me feel exactly that way.
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  And it was why I wanted to dive in today because I know a lot of
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  your content and the things you've discussed have talked
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  about fear and you've talked about failure and you've talked
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  about not feeling like you're enough or in the right place.
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  And there's so many great mindset pieces that you hit on.
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  And I think one of the things that I'm so excited about in the
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  way in which you approach it is the fact that it feels so
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  practical and it allows people to find themselves within it.
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  I sometimes find within mindset or motivation, it can feel very
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  prescriptive to the point where it's like, here's how you're
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  supposed to feel or here's how you're supposed to approach it.
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  And what I love about your work is the fact that you allow
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  people to find themselves within it.
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  And I know obviously from your history you've done like
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  speaking in front of crowds and communities and all different
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  types of people that you've supported with your message.
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  So for anyone who hasn't kind of been exposed to that, just as a
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  quick snapshot, what kinds of ways or kind of, I guess
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  processes do you have in the way that you deliver your message or
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  get it to people? You know what, it really varies
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  based upon the person specifically that I have come to
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  my door because everyone is really different.
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  And I always think of myself as kind of a facilitator, right?
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  So I'm, I'm the one that drops the gem, you know, or drops the
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  bomb. And I'm like, OK, now process
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  it. You know what I want?
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  Because I want you. I want you to come to your own
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  conclusions, right? And I used to be a teacher and
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  that's kind of a philosophy as well with students, right?
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  It's like you present it to them and you want them to go to
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  critically think. So it's the same thing.
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  You know, I will say for me, I, I really view this beautiful
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  process and this is kind of my coaching, but really what I
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  bring to people, you know, if I'm, if I'm speaking or if I'm,
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  you know, whether it's virtual in person, I kind of take them
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  through this. And, and I say the first step is
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  really it's the awareness and starting to shift internally
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  your beliefs and your mindset. So that's really huge.
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  And so I have some practical strategies for that.
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  But then we start to go within and we start to go, well, where
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  are the internal blocks, right? Everyone has that resistance
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  that they come up against. And so we do kind of a deep dive
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  to illuminate those parts of us, those pain points that perhaps
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  were kind of tucked away. And here's the thing, when you
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  illuminate that, and often times it's some shame, shame can only
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  grow in the dark. It cannot grow in the light.
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  And so when you bring it to the light, you give it permission to
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  kind of heal. And we kind of walk through
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  that. And another practice I actually
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  take people through, you know, especially as they start to, you
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  know, kind of clear their path and want to head into new
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  ventures is actually the practice of forgiveness, right?
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  It's not something we talked about, I feel like much and
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  maybe the Wellness space, but it's been very pivotal in my own
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  life and in my in my messaging because that really frees you.
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  And then what I think about too, to really lift people up, as I
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  always say, you know, what's the next level version of you?
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  Who is that version of you that's being birthed?
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  And let's let them take your hand because they're going to
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  start to guide you to that next platform.
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  So I always say my goal, you know, if we're going to view
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  this, you know, A to Z, my goal is not to get you to Z, I'm
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  going to get you to B. And then when you get to BC is
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  going to unfold. And that's what it is.
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  This is like a big staircase. So I just want to get people to
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  the next step on their staircase.
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  Once you hit that next step, the next one will illuminate and
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  then the next one will illuminate, right?
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  Because we can't, only God could do, we can't conceptualize what
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  Z is going to look like and how we're going to get there.
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  We might be able to feel some of that and that's the excitement,
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  but then you got to let it go. So I just want to get people.
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  Hopefully this is the answer. Again, I just want to get people
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  up the staircase. Which I feel like if anyone
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  didn't listen to that, please rewind that because I feel like
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  every ambitious driven person is like, I am where I am now, let's
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  just speed to where it is that I want to go.
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  Yeah, I can't do that. That everyone wants to get to
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  the destination and never is allowing themselves to sit in
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  the process. So I love that.
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  OK, you unpacked a couple elements that I see there, which
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  is identifying. I love the idea of you have
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  illusions that you need to illuminate is what I heard you
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  say, which I'm obsessed with getting a awareness of where you
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  are right now and what are those limitations.
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  Then looking at forgiving those to be able to dive into future
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  self. It's kind of the three different
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  almost like areas that I'm seeing.
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  So those illusions that you spoke about, what are some of
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  those that you see maybe with clients or entrepreneurs or
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  people that you kind of interface with that someone
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  listening to this might right now who feels like they're going
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  for big goals. Maybe they have experienced some
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  failures recently. They have some fear that's
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  coming up around, you know, what's going to happen in my
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  business? Is it going to be successful?
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  And I'm sure many of the things your clients go through, I feel
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  like so many of us are in our head is in the sand.
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  We're just in the doing. Right.
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  And so I'm. Curious for those kind of things
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  that are maybe over top of us that really are guiding a lot of
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  how we behave, how do we even start to tune into some of those
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  or maybe what are some of them that you typically see with
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  people? It's a great question and I love
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  that you just said, you know, head in the sand.
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  I always use that analogy. That's what it seems like, you
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  know, when our heads in the sand, we can't even see
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  possibility, right? So there's so many things there.
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  I would really recommend to everybody listening to read the
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  book The Big Leap by Gay Hendrix.
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  This is a phenomenal book. And what Gay talks about, and
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  it's actually a foundational part of my work as well, is he
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  says that there's four different zones that we operate in, right?
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  So people that are listening right now, you are all trying to
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  get to your zone of genius, right?
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  So when you become an entrepreneur, and this doesn't
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  even have to be career wise, but in our life, you know, within
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  the four different zones, the zone of genius is the one you
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  want to get up to. That's where only you are doing
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  what you do, the way you do it. OK, so that's your secret sauce.
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  Now there's four of these. So the bottom one is the zone of
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  incompetence. And if we talk about this career
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  wise, no one really ends up there.
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  You can't survive there. The zone of confidence, which is
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  what you do, you do it just fine.
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  Other people do it the same, the zone of excellence, which is
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  where a lot of us high achievers get to.
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  But then the problem is we hit the ceiling.
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  We go, I want to be in my zone of genius.
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  And what Gay talks about is he says, you know, there's this
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  hidden barriers prior to getting to your zone of genius, but
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  that's the journey. OK, So what the hidden barriers
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  are, and I see this with everyone.
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  I see it with myself and the process is just, it's walking
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  incrementally through it. That's the biggest thing.
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  So actually, let me just pause and talk about imposter syndrome
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  real quick because everybody deals with imposter syndrome.
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  Here's the thing about imposter syndrome.
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  You have to change the goal post.
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  I have worked with so many people over the years that have,
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  you know, these huge lofty dreams.
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  They are lofty, they're exciting.
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  And I listen, I, I don't even verbalize half of mine.
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  I verbalize them to myself. The windows know about it, but I
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  don't verbalize it to some people because they're, you
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  know, they're big. But we we have to be.
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  And this is the I don't even like the term realistic, but we
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  have to be realistic about what step we're on and the next one
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  to take. If I have a goal that's up to
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  the ceiling, OK, by the way, I might subconsciously have a
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  little bit of self sabotaging going on.
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  If I say, OK, well this is the goal I have to get to, well, I'm
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  not that height yet. I can't jump up there.
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  That doesn't make any sense. If I say I want to run a
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  marathon tomorrow, that's probably I could pass away.
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  Trying to do that, right? There's a process of training.
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  Imposter syndrome is being honest and having sobering
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  truths with yourself about the next step you need to take.
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  It's not about trying to get to Z, it's about getting to B.
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  And sometimes that's scarier because then we have to
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  confront, Oh my gosh, I could actually do it.
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  So now I'm going to back it up because by the way, sometimes we
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  have these lofty dreams and there's a part of us that goes,
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  oh, we'll see. I really can't get there.
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  See, I'm really not worthy. No, if you move incrementally,
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  properly, you can get there. Now that's terrifying because we
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  fear our greatness and we fear our darkness.
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  OK, we fear both of those, but we want to start going up to the
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  path of greatness. But let me back it up.
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  So the hidden barriers, I really pull these out from that book,
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  The Big Leap. And again, recommend it to
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  everyone. So prior to getting to your zone
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  of genius, what do we all suffer with?
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  There's four of them. Number one, it's the fear of
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  failure. OK, to be honest with you,
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  here's the thing. How many of us have felt like a
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  failure, but we still get up the next day?
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  OK? That's predominantly, I think.
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  I think that's the most common feeling when nervous.
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  How's this going to go? You would be surprised.
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  A couple of perspective shifts and people realize, oh, well,
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  there's a lot of things that I've.
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  I'm just fearful of where I already am.
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  OK, Well, that doesn't make any sense.
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  So let me just keep walking, right?
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  The second one, if we're going to kind of go up the scale now
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  is the fear of success. Now this is legitimate as well.
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  Some of us need to work on our beliefs around money.
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  Because if I attribute to more success, to more money, but I
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  don't trust myself with money, whoa, what's going to happen
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  there? If I attribute more success,
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  especially if you're an entrepreneur.
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  OK, well, wait a second. Now I'm going to have more
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  success. Well, am I going to have to work
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  18 hour days because I'm used to money coming in a certain way.
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  So some people are going to go Nope, right, right.
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  So then there's the fear that we're fundamentally flawed and
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  that there's something wrong with us.
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  OK. And if we get to that level, Oh
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  my gosh. Well, what if they find out?
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  Now, first of all, this is null and void because I don't know
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  what model of perfection that we have on this earth.
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  There is not one person. And trust me, and I've worked
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  with a lot of people, it doesn't matter how much money you have,
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  how little you have, we all have those wounds.
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  We all, all of us are walking around imperfect.
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  And it was never a prerequisite for us to be perfect to achieve
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  or get anything. That's the beautiful thing about
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  this. We didn't have to be.
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  Sometimes it's owning, stepping into truly who we are and
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  learning to release and let that go.
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  That's when we step into freedom.
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  But the last one that I think is actually quite big for people,
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  and it's kind of a hidden one, is the fear of being abandoned
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  on the journey. We're not meant to be alone.
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  Now, I don't mean this in terms of a relationship isolating
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  ourselves on the path of success.
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  You know, sometimes you hear these videos of, OK, well, I'm
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  going to hustle. And if you're not this, then you
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  can't come with it. It's like, whoa, you know what
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  we really want at the end of the day?
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  You want community, you want people, you want connection.
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  You don't want to be void of that.
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  It feels all great until you're in this multi $1,000,000 home by
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  yourself, right? And it's, again, it's not about
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  being single or anything of that nature.
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  I personally am, right. But it's about who are you
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  spending this with? What are the true riches in your
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  life? When you prioritize and identify
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  that you're able to handle and think about it, it's almost
• 17:14
  protection from God, right? So it's not a bad thing if you
• 17:18
  get to that level. You've just magnified who you
• 17:20
  are and now you have a lot more that's around you right now when
• 17:23
  you're the same person. So to recap.
• 17:26
  So those four items, I think are some of the biggest hurdles that
• 17:31
  people have to walk through those illusions, right?
• 17:33
  The fear of failure, the fear of success, the fear that there's
• 17:36
  something wrong with me and Oh my God, I have to be perfect to
• 17:39
  do this. No, you don't.
• 17:41
  And the fear that you're going to be left behind because also
• 17:45
  when you, you know, when your income changes, when all these
• 17:47
  things change, sometimes, you know, you worry what happens
• 17:50
  with those relationships, what happens with those people.
• 17:52
  So those are the biggest. Ones in a Monday to Friday I
• 17:56
  feel like I I feel like I genuinely in a five day seven
• 17:58
  day period probably have moments where I feel those naturally
• 18:05
  come up in the sense of fear of failure.
• 18:06
  Even now at this stage is something that I'm like is is
• 18:10
  this going to work out is it going to sustain is it going to
• 18:13
  continue fear of success for sure.
• 18:17
  And I'm so excited to unpack these because even for me, there
• 18:19
  was a, a moment in my business where I was like, I know that I
• 18:23
  need to do X in order to see the business grow the way I want.
• 18:26
  It's so crystal clear. I have the evidence of what to
• 18:28
  do. I know the results it generates
• 18:31
  of what it can produce. And I'm not doing it.
• 18:33
  Why? And when I started to unpack it,
• 18:36
  I realized that if I sold more, I had to have more clients.
• 18:39
  And if I had, I had more clients, I need more capacity.
• 18:41
  And if I need more capacity, because I had this emotional
• 18:44
  cloud that was happening in my personal life, that wasn't
• 18:47
  something that I felt safe to do.
• 18:49
  So therefore trickle down don't sell.
• 18:51
  So when we think about, and I love that you broke these down
• 18:55
  to categories because obviously you guys know, I'm a nerd for a
• 18:57
  framework. I think it's really helpful for
• 19:00
  people to realize for each of these buckets, like where they
• 19:03
  can kind of see themselves within it.
• 19:04
  So maybe we start with fear of failure because I think
• 19:07
  consciously many of us will be like, I don't fear that I'm
• 19:10
  going to fail. Like I know that I could do
• 19:12
  great things or I have these big goals that I'm going for.
• 19:15
  But I feel, at least in my personal opinion, that it's
• 19:18
  really easy to be excited about growth and excited about scaling
• 19:22
  when everything's going well. It's in the moments where you
• 19:25
  face the resistance or you feel like you're really up against
• 19:28
  it, IE say you were I or to train for that marathon we're
• 19:31
  talking about that you start to realize, hey, like this is
• 19:35
  something that I actually do see the potential of.
• 19:37
  It couldn't work out in the way that I might perceive or hope it
• 19:41
  to be in this perfect vision. So when you help people with
• 19:45
  overcoming that fear of failure, where do you think that comes
• 19:49
  from? And kind of like, how do people
• 19:51
  start to unpack that to build a different relationship with it?
• 19:56
  I love what you just said at the end there to build a different
• 19:58
  relationship with it, because let's be very clear, there's
• 20:00
  always going to be failure. But what is failure?
• 20:04
  So these the, the four different categories, they almost feed off
• 20:07
  each other. Think about it.
• 20:08
  If you fail, then you've affirmed, see, there's something
• 20:10
  wrong with me. Do you know what I mean?
• 20:13
  But so, so that, and for everyone, it's very different.
• 20:15
  I mean, it also depends on how you grew up, right?
• 20:17
  What was family life like? What were the expectations
• 20:19
  placed on you about your achievement?
• 20:21
  Was your, you know, the acceptance that you had tied
• 20:23
  directly to? Was it your grades, which you
• 20:25
  achieved all that? So it's very different for
• 20:27
  everyone. But what I will say is failure
• 20:30
  is your textbook for how to succeed.
• 20:33
  You have to come up against it in order to properly learn.
• 20:38
  And failure, when you see if we're going to zoom out on like
• 20:40
  I always joke about like zooming out on like a cosmic level.
• 20:42
  If we really zoom out of this, when you fail and you're broken
• 20:46
  down, first of all, you learn to surrender there.
• 20:49
  And surrender builds your personal faith so that God can
• 20:52
  show you the next path #2 you are absolutely learning.
• 20:56
  You are shown what not to do. So you can fine tune, but it
• 20:59
  expands you. I think the biggest thing that
• 21:01
  we can do when we think about failure is understand you are
• 21:04
  always going to be fearful before you start something.
• 21:07
  Fear is excitement without the breath.
• 21:10
  What's on the other side of the fear?
• 21:12
  You are always going to be. You just got to everyone.
• 21:14
  Listen, I know this sounds simple, but it's really getting
• 21:17
  used to that phrase of you got to do it scared sometimes and
• 21:20
  now going back to so let's even break it down further.
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  Oh my God. Well, if I do this, well, then
• 21:25
  this is all going to have to happen.
• 21:26
  No, it's not. You can make the decision to do
• 21:28
  it right now, not take any action and nothing crumbled
• 21:31
  around you. That's Step 1.
• 21:33
  So we need to break it down. It has to be so chewable.
• 21:36
  So you understand you're not doing all of this right now.
• 21:40
  It doesn't mean that you're jumping to that final point.
• 21:43
  Of course, you're not ready for that.
• 21:44
  You haven't gone through the proper experiences yet to
• 21:46
  develop you into that. Do you know what I mean?
• 21:49
  So everything comes back down to that staircase.
• 21:52
  And here's the thing, God has all the time in the world for us
• 21:55
  all, and there's reasons why we don't move at a certain pace.
• 21:58
  You have to be developed What in life that's really fruitful,
• 22:03
  beneficial for us. You know, all of those great
• 22:05
  things happens instantly. It all takes time.
• 22:09
  There's an order of operations with everything.
• 22:10
  I could say I want summer right now.
• 22:12
  We got three more months. We're just about to enter
• 22:14
  spring, right? It comes at a certain time, so
• 22:17
  there's a season. So what I would invite everyone
• 22:19
  to do when they think about failure, and this really goes
• 22:21
  for all categories, is really think to yourself, OK, number
• 22:24
  one, what is being reflected to me right now?
• 22:27
  Like what am I being shown about myself?
• 22:30
  How am I responding and what do I need to learn?
• 22:33
  For every problem, there's a solution rule #1 Entrepreneur
• 22:36
  Land. For every problem, there's a
• 22:37
  solution. You become solution oriented,
• 22:39
  right? But #2 if this is a certain
• 22:42
  season, then what does it mean for me to dig my feet into the
• 22:45
  season to absorb as much as I can?
• 22:49
  OK. Everything is about step by step
• 22:53
  and it all takes that time. The other piece of this, when it
• 22:56
  comes to it, if you weren't scared of what's ahead, then
• 23:00
  you're not expanding, you're not in.
• 23:03
  And we have to expand. We have to grow.
• 23:06
  And let's be honest, it's a little baptism by fire down
• 23:09
  here. You know, it's like, oh, you
• 23:11
  want me to, you want me to jump off the Cliff?
• 23:12
  Yes, right. So when I took my leap of faith
• 23:15
  years ago, I, you know, and God really speaks me through my
• 23:18
  intuition. It wasn't like, hey, Taylor,
• 23:20
  here's what you're going to land and here's what you're going to
• 23:21
  do. It was jump.
• 23:23
  I'm going, what do you want me to jump?
• 23:25
  You want me to jump? Jump.
• 23:26
  I'm going. OK, OK, You find out after.
• 23:31
  So you're always going to be fearful.
• 23:33
  But if you look back at your track record and you look at all
• 23:37
  you've achieved, how about all that you've been through and all
• 23:41
  that you've walked through? And if you wrote all of that
• 23:44
  down, everything that you've overcome and I had it on a
• 23:46
  scroll in front of you, you're going to sit there and pretend
• 23:49
  that you're not able to take this first step A to B.
• 23:52
  So when you workshop these things and you expose people to
• 23:56
  the truth of who they are, what they've walked through, and the
• 24:00
  step that they simply have to take right now, you're met and
• 24:04
  you're carried to exactly where you need to be next.
• 24:07
  So that's part. Of it, it's I so resonate with
• 24:10
  it because I think so many of us, at least for myself, I've
• 24:15
  always found myself wanting to have the perfect picture of what
• 24:17
  was going to happen. I was like, I just know what
• 24:19
  this like you write the classic steps we're all told of like,
• 24:22
  like, you know, when we're kids, you get in a relationship, you
• 24:24
  get a house, you get a job, boom, boom, boom.
• 24:26
  You have a five step plan. And I think so many of us want
• 24:29
  to control the steps in an effort to control the outcome,
• 24:32
  to feel like we have this like predictive nature to nature of
• 24:35
  where we're going. And as you said, that I'm
• 24:38
  smiling because I'm realizing and I so funny.
• 24:40
  I just had this conversation with someone this morning
• 24:43
  because we were talking about how like life's got, whether
• 24:45
  it's, you know, God for you, universe for you, has other
• 24:47
  plans. And, you know, obviously, as I
• 24:50
  record this, I'm like, you know, living in a home that I wasn't
• 24:54
  living in, you know, just a while ago.
• 24:56
  And I started to kind of look at all the changes that have
• 24:58
  happened in the last six months to a year.
• 24:59
  And then I started to go back all the way to when I was a kid
• 25:02
  and thinking about if I hadn't got that learning disability at
• 25:04
  grade 8, I wouldn't have not done well in school.
• 25:07
  And if I hadn't done not well in school, then I wouldn't have
• 25:10
  become an entrepreneur. And if I hadn't become an
• 25:12
  entrepreneur and then you just see this domino.
• 25:14
  But I love that idea of tracing back the events because again, I
• 25:19
  think there's probably a past of childhood and trauma and all of
• 25:21
  these things. But I think this desire to
• 25:24
  control and to know how it's all going to work out and how
• 25:27
  everything's going to happen, we think is this like really thing
• 25:31
  that's helping us to succeed in life.
• 25:33
  But it's really just this like fear protection and, you know,
• 25:36
  kind of put a bubble around me mechanism.
• 25:38
  And when you start to reverse engineered.
• 25:40
  And I would invite everyone to do that exercise because it was
• 25:43
  only once I had someone else present that to me that it
• 25:47
  really reframed the experience of being right now, like in this
• 25:51
  moment. Just be.
• 25:52
  And I'm like, what do you mean just be?
• 25:54
  But like, what about this and what about that?
• 25:55
  And what if I'm too old to have kids?
• 25:56
  And what if I don't get married? And what if I end up being alone
• 25:58
  forever and all all these worries and fears and failure
• 26:02
  that I was so concerned about? They're like, yeah, but you had
• 26:05
  all those beliefs and you had all these events that happened
• 26:09
  and it's LED you to now and all of the quote UN quote pain or
• 26:12
  quote, UN quote failure, if that's how you choose to
• 26:14
  perceive it, is the reason you're here.
• 26:18
  So like there may be a necessary even in this season, there might
• 26:23
  be a winter that has to happen before.
• 26:25
  Spring can occur. And so I've started to change to
• 26:30
  your point earlier, this relationship with the now and
• 26:35
  trying to be like, OK, well, if I am scared of what could be,
• 26:39
  why is that? And also how do I sit with it,
• 26:41
  acknowledge it, but still kind of be in it and still allow
• 26:44
  myself to be in the process? And I've seen, you know, your
• 26:47
  content that's talked about the aspect of timeline and wanting
• 26:51
  things to go faster and quicker and easier.
• 26:53
  And you know, why isn't this happening for me and all these
• 26:56
  pieces? And I would imagine that those
• 26:59
  narratives and not noise has a lot to do with people who get
• 27:03
  stuck in this. I feel like I'm failing.
• 27:05
  Oh my gosh, it's the yes, just yes to all of it.
• 27:09
  It's I feel like I'm failing. I feel like I'm behind schedule.
• 27:12
  I feel like I've missed my time. I feel like it's too late.
• 27:16
  You know, what the most beautiful thing about how we're
• 27:18
  living today is we are seeing examples and the Internet has
• 27:21
  done this for us left and right of people that are finding
• 27:24
  success at all of these ages that at one point were
• 27:28
  considered to be, oh, you'd be done, right?
• 27:31
  I mean, it's even, you know, I'm.
• 27:32
  I'm even talking about the top dogs of the, you know, Demi
• 27:34
  Moore, who won her first Golden Globe, her first award ever.
• 27:38
  She's 62. She had a very, you know,
• 27:40
  successful career. She said internally she's like,
• 27:42
  I was told I couldn't go into certain arenas essentially.
• 27:45
  And all of a sudden she's having that success and you're watching
• 27:47
  these people that are coming too.
• 27:49
  And here's the thing, when you release the internal timeline,
• 27:54
  that's freedom. Like really think about that.
• 27:58
  If you release the constraints, you have your own personal goal
• 28:01
  post. You've just freed yourself of
• 28:03
  everything. I mean, literally, Oh my God, it
• 28:06
  has to be by this. Well, now you're going to spend
• 28:08
  the next five years everyday. Oh my God, I'm farther away.
• 28:10
  I'm farther away. I'm farther away.
• 28:11
  It's not whoa, if you release that and truly sit with where
• 28:17
  you are and being doesn't mean the absence of thought.
• 28:21
  Being is saying, where do I get to place my energy and my focus
• 28:25
  now? Because your mind's just doing
• 28:26
  its job. So part of that rewiring and
• 28:29
  reframing and refocus of the mind is where do I choose to
• 28:32
  focus now? What is happening right now?
• 28:35
  What are the blessings currently?
• 28:37
  And when you sit with that and you go on this rampage up, God,
• 28:42
  this is working out for me. This is so beautiful.
• 28:44
  I can't believe this unfolded. I'm having such a beautiful day.
• 28:46
  The birds are chirping outside. God, it's so nice.
• 28:48
  That person just beeped at me. Doesn't matter.
• 28:49
  You just go on this rampage and you're going, Oh my gosh.
• 28:52
  And it feels so good. And, and the ironic thing about
• 28:56
  this is when you release the timeline, when you truly learn
• 29:01
  what it means to surrender. And by the way, people go, how
• 29:04
  do I, how do I surrender? Well, stop putting pressure on
• 29:06
  yourself to constantly surrender.
• 29:08
  That's one piece of it, right? So you got it.
• 29:09
  You got to zoom out of it. We all have those very humidy
• 29:13
  moments where we're going. I'm in this panic.
• 29:15
  But when you start to release, you prioritize alignment.
• 29:19
  You prioritize just the let go. The ironic thing is you move
• 29:24
  faster. You've allowed God to take you.
• 29:27
  It's like, I always think of it as a stream.
• 29:30
  It's like a stream that you're going down.
• 29:31
  And we always pretend that we're going to hold on to the slippery
• 29:34
  rocks next to the stream and oh, this is going to give me
• 29:36
  protection. It's not actually you just let
• 29:38
  go again, right? And that's the thing.
• 29:40
  So the more that you can let go and realize that nothing is
• 29:44
  crumbling outside of you, right? Some people say, well, if I let
• 29:48
  go, why can't I do anything? I said?
• 29:50
  I never said that. I'm telling you in this moment,
• 29:52
  can you give yourself 15 minutes to go outside, Go sit, go sit
• 29:55
  with some joy. Go think about meditate on love
• 29:59
  for 15 minutes and the joy you've had in your life and how
• 30:01
  beautiful it is and what God has created here.
• 30:03
  I mean, what a gift it is to live in this and to know that
• 30:06
  your reality starts to change as you attune more to this and
• 30:09
  you're being shown that. I mean, when you sit in that,
• 30:13
  that can change the entire course of someone's day.
• 30:15
  And then it's the craziest thing is it's like you get the e-mail
• 30:17
  later that day. You're like, Oh my God, you
• 30:19
  know, the lights start turning green, you just lock in.
• 30:23
  So that's why when I, even when I work with people, when I
• 30:25
  encourage for people, you know, at the beginning is start
• 30:29
  tracking when things are rolling the right way, you know, because
• 30:33
  if you want to find the problems, you'll find them.
• 30:36
  If you want to find the solutions, you'll find them.
• 30:37
  If you want to find the good, you'll find, If you want to find
• 30:39
  the bad, you'll find it. So what are you going to start
• 30:42
  to look at? Because what you're looking at
• 30:44
  is what you're watering and what you water is what's going to
• 30:46
  grow. So we want to grow the right
• 30:49
  things. But long story long, removing
• 30:52
  the timeline is huge. It is everything.
• 30:56
  And it, it really removes that notion of I'm failing because
• 30:59
  what's your new metric of success?
• 31:01
  Maybe it changes. You can hold on to that big
• 31:04
  vision, but hold on to it for not even hold on to it.
• 31:07
  View it for the excitement and how good it feels.
• 31:11
  Oh my gosh, that's going to you know what?
• 31:13
  I've decided that's happened. It's all my heart.
• 31:14
  It's all my heart. God, I don't, you know what your
• 31:15
  plan? I don't know how it's going to
• 31:17
  unfold. I don't know how it's going to
• 31:18
  go, but I'm excited for this. Oh, it feels so good.
• 31:20
  And then you focus on the day ahead.
• 31:22
  Well, again, like there's no other thing to other than say
• 31:25
  yes, yes to all of this. I, I heard a sermon 2 weeks ago
• 31:29
  and it was, it landed so amazing for me because it was talking
• 31:32
  about this aspect of waiting. And really that's what you're
• 31:35
  insinuating is this aspect of like, you know, that you have
• 31:38
  the ability to achieve, you know, that that's possible for
• 31:41
  you at some point. And you're also where you are
• 31:44
  now. And so you're trying to find
• 31:46
  this kind of like comfort in, well, OK, well, how do I sit in
• 31:49
  this? And so one of the things that
• 31:51
  was kind of shared was this aspect of like, don't waste the
• 31:54
  waiting. And it came down to like even
• 31:58
  for myself, back to timeline, I had such even like truthfully,
• 32:02
  as of three months ago, I was talking about the fact that I
• 32:04
  felt like a failure because I was like, I'm 32, I'm not
• 32:07
  married, I don't have kids. This is not where I thought I
• 32:09
  was going to be at this age. And I thought, OK, well, I can't
• 32:13
  reproduce as a solo person of 1 logistically, So what are we
• 32:18
  going to do about it? So I thought, OK, well, I'm in
• 32:20
  this waiting period. It is the intention.
• 32:22
  I know that that is something that I desire, but we're in this
• 32:27
  waiting period of, OK, well, I'm in this process.
• 32:29
  I'm sitting in it. What do I do about it?
• 32:31
  I can be upset about it and ruminate on it and be frustrated
• 32:34
  and, you know, just constantly keep the same movie playing.
• 32:38
  Or I can be OK. Well, how do I work in the
• 32:41
  waiting? And I think that this is in
• 32:43
  anything. It can be if you don't have the
• 32:45
  family you want. It could be if you don't have
• 32:46
  the money you want, if you don't have the business that you want.
• 32:50
  I see a lot of people when they have a goal that they're going
• 32:53
  for that they just kind of sit and they're like, when's it
• 32:55
  coming? It's just going to land like a
• 32:57
  gift on my front doorstep. And like now it's here.
• 33:01
  And I think the thing that I see that's the differentiator is
• 33:04
  like what you're doing in the process.
• 33:06
  And I love what you said because I think what you're doing.
• 33:09
  And I think it's important for everyone to really tune into
• 33:11
  what he's saying. There's an appreciation for the
• 33:14
  process as much as there is for the current state and the
• 33:17
  destination, like all of it is considered equal value.
• 33:21
  And so I would probably argue that those who love that
• 33:25
  process, who see those birds chirping, who see the winds, who
• 33:28
  catch the momentum, who tune into the positive things also
• 33:33
  create. We literally know this about the
• 33:34
  subconscious. It will show you and provide you
• 33:38
  more positive opportunities, or it will have positive
• 33:42
  opportunities that were there the entire time.
• 33:44
  But because of the way you had your perception dialed into
• 33:47
  negativity, you let them completely pass you by.
• 33:52
  And that's why you're not winning.
• 33:53
  And yet you attribute it to be like, yeah, like, it's just not
• 33:56
  happening for me yet. So like, I'm obsessed with what
• 33:59
  you just shared. And I think it's really
• 34:00
  important for everyone to dial in because this idea of like,
• 34:03
  I'm not where I want to be. I think we can probably say that
• 34:07
  in any category of our life because to your point earlier,
• 34:10
  there's always this future destination, date, happiness
• 34:13
  that's constantly happening. Agreed.
• 34:15
  And and what I will say too is I always joke because this is just
• 34:18
  how my journey has gone. You know, I say the minute I
• 34:20
  land, God gives me my next boarding pass.
• 34:23
  And so you're always arriving and you're always departing.
• 34:27
  So sometimes we have this notion of, OK, well, when I land, it's
• 34:30
  never that. It's always it's so much of it
• 34:33
  isn't here. So I would even encourage for
• 34:35
  everyone, I mean, if you really, you know, when I'm in the season
• 34:38
  right now too, I'm planting new seeds, right?
• 34:40
  If you sit with the seeds, you're planting the power behind
• 34:45
  that. Like you really think about,
• 34:46
  it's not about throwing spaghetti at the wall.
• 34:49
  Intentional, being very intentional with what you're
• 34:52
  doing, what you're doing in that waiting period.
• 34:55
  You're enjoying the wait. You know, you're farming as
• 34:57
  such, you're planting new seeds, right?
• 34:59
  And when you really sit with that, that is incredible.
• 35:03
  And what I tell people who especially have really, really
• 35:07
  high callings really, which by the way, all callings are equal,
• 35:10
  but in terms of, you know, some people in the world might be
• 35:13
  huge exposure, right? So my advice would be be it now
• 35:19
  and not even for the sake of, you know, be it before you see
• 35:22
  it yes, but when you understand that you don't need that metric
• 35:27
  of success to validate that that's you, you've won, you've
• 35:31
  opened it up, you've attuned to it.
• 35:33
  Boom. Like I'm talking, I don't care
• 35:35
  if you are in the tiniest, cutest little apartment and you
• 35:37
  one day see yourself in the big house, you're going to be in all
• 35:39
  these stages. Whatever it is, own it now
• 35:41
  perform for the windows, right. I mean, just live it.
• 35:45
  And when you do that, you have found the satisfaction that you
• 35:49
  were seeking at that level, but you found it.
• 35:52
  Now, that doesn't mean you're giving up the dream.
• 35:55
  It means you're lining up for the dream, right?
• 35:57
  You got to get in the car. So it's all, I have all these
• 35:59
  different analogies, but it's, I mean, literally, it's like
• 36:01
  you're driving up a mountain. That's what it is.
• 36:03
  So own it, be it, it's, it's you right now.
• 36:08
  And in doing that, you've, you're just, you're in the flow.
• 36:11
  You're just in the flow and it makes such a difference.
• 36:14
  So I can see the person listening to this and they
• 36:17
  think, OK, so don't focus on the destination.
• 36:20
  Be in the process, be in the flow, acknowledge the the micro
• 36:23
  milestone. I love the idea of it's not
• 36:25
  about getting to step A-Z. It's about A to B.
• 36:28
  And you guys have heard me say like the terms of like bite by
• 36:31
  bite, right? Like taking it piece by piece,
• 36:32
  which was a great phrase passed on by George Bryant.
• 36:35
  And that idea of like the next step is really all you really
• 36:40
  have control over. And so I'm curious when someone
• 36:43
  feels like they're in this process and they feel unsettled,
• 36:47
  they feel uneasy, they're like, but Taylor, like, I want that.
• 36:51
  And I'm worried that like, if I just focus on the next step,
• 36:54
  what if Z doesn't happen, right? Like what if my dream doesn't
• 36:58
  happen? Or what if the destination
• 36:59
  doesn't occur? What if the result doesn't
• 37:01
  happen? Is there anything that you might
• 37:04
  say to the person who's struggling to be patient in the
• 37:09
  process? I honestly would say for that
• 37:13
  specific person, there needs to be even an additional level of
• 37:18
  release on that final outcome, which means the energy in which
• 37:22
  you're placing needs to be more onto the seeds you're currently
• 37:24
  planting, right? So it's like, I don't know, it's
• 37:28
  like if you're building a house, right?
• 37:30
  OK. But I really want that.
• 37:31
  I can see my family in the living room.
• 37:32
  I can see it. I can see it.
• 37:33
  I need it. I understand that.
• 37:34
  Let's pour the concrete for the foundation for.
• 37:36
  Do you know what I mean? So it really, it really is.
• 37:38
  Where are we looking? And here's the thing, you can.
• 37:40
  So there's a difference between the desire and the wanting and
• 37:46
  the certainty and the feeling of certainty that releases the want
• 37:52
  because I'm in the certainty, it satisfies the craving.
• 37:56
  And then you also don't need that craving.
• 37:59
  But then you line up to get that, if that makes sense.
• 38:01
  So that's a piece of it. So what I would say to that
• 38:04
  person is and by the way, you know, I know for people
• 38:06
  listening, we have high achievers that are listening on
• 38:09
  here. We have any gram threes on here,
• 38:10
  right? So I know that.
• 38:12
  So the reason I do this is I I want to balance everybody out.
• 38:15
  You can't be all the way on the side of I mean, you could, but
• 38:18
  it would just be very different, like entirely flow.
• 38:20
  There's no structure, none of that.
• 38:21
  We don't have any issue with it. We know we have structure.
• 38:24
  I'm a planner too. I'm a type A minus.
• 38:26
  That's what I say. I'm a type or AB plus, right.
• 38:29
  But I know we have some type AS listening and I know we have
• 38:31
  some some driven people. You know rationally what you
• 38:35
  have to do. We all know we have bills to
• 38:36
  pay. We all are keeping track of our
• 38:38
  finances. We know how much we have to
• 38:39
  make. We have our goals.
• 38:42
  What does it mean to offset that, to balance out the scales?
• 38:45
  And when you're balanced, you're also able to receive the ideas.
• 38:49
  Sometimes you come up against an internal wall because there's
• 38:53
  too much push. And when you get to a place of
• 38:58
  needing, which turns into fear, fear like cuts you off
• 39:01
  spiritually and you need to be tapped in spiritually,
• 39:05
  especially when you're doing these crazy intuitive things and
• 39:08
  you're building all of this right.
• 39:09
  So prioritizing that time is key.
• 39:11
  So what I would also say is, you know, when it comes to doing
• 39:14
  things, you don't have to be in a space 24/7, You know, where
• 39:18
  you're dancing out in the field. I mean, that's great too.
• 39:20
  But you know, have your intentional time where you're
• 39:22
  working, you're getting things done, and you're amping yourself
• 39:25
  up before you do that. You're getting in the right head
• 39:27
  space and also having your intentional time where you spend
• 39:31
  time in the quiet, you spend time reflecting, you spend time
• 39:34
  in the gratitude to continue to nourish and fill yourself.
• 39:38
  So that balance, that's really the key.
• 39:41
  It's so good. It's all just so.
• 39:43
  It's so good. It's so good.
• 39:46
  OK, so I want to take a quick little brief interruption from
• 39:48
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  get back into the show. OK, so someone's listening to
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  like, OK, so I feel like I've got tools now to understand
• 42:39
  where does my concern or fear of failure come from or how do I
• 42:44
  kind of navigate those emotions? We've kind of looked at some
• 42:47
  opportunities to really tune into the present and to be able
• 42:50
  to be create purpose within the waiting or purpose within the
• 42:54
  process. And you mentioned fear of
• 42:56
  success. And I will tell you, and I know
• 42:58
  you're going to laugh at this. I will tell you, I have talked
• 43:01
  to so many entrepreneurs who are like, that's not real.
• 43:04
  No one is scared of. It's very real.
• 43:07
  No one's scared of going viral. No one's scared of doubling
• 43:11
  their business. Why would someone be scared of
• 43:13
  having massive success of everything they've ever wanted?
• 43:16
  And so if I could pass like the virtual mic to you, I would love
• 43:21
  to hear you speak into someone who maybe one of two things.
• 43:25
  There's some people who don't understand what does it mean to
• 43:28
  be scared to succeed? Because I think many, again, if
• 43:32
  we're thinking about I want that goal, I want that goal.
• 43:34
  Why would I be mad or upset or sad or frustrated about hitting
• 43:39
  that goal when it's everything that I've ever wanted and
• 43:41
  dreamed of? And I also know to your point,
• 43:44
  we do have massive high achievers.
• 43:47
  And I think that my perception of the fear of success is that
• 43:52
  some people think it's obvious. And in my opinion, fear of
• 43:55
  success oftentimes is very hidden.
• 43:57
  In people's behavior, literally I just wrote hidden.
• 44:01
  Because people think like I'm doing what I need to do to have
• 44:05
  success. Like of course I want success
• 44:07
  and consciously. And I can speak to this with
• 44:10
  25,000,000 examples of what this has shown up as in my business.
• 44:14
  You mentioned the 2 words which I I think are so important for
• 44:17
  people to remember is self sabotage.
• 44:20
  And I think that that's the way that it's hidden because so many
• 44:23
  of us don't consciously see the behaviors because we're in it.
• 44:27
  We, it's like saying, oh, I want to see my own triggers.
• 44:29
  It's very difficult to do. I want to see my own limiting
• 44:31
  beliefs. But fear of success is so
• 44:35
  incredibly real. And I see it with so many
• 44:37
  scaling entrepreneurs that I work with.
• 44:39
  And so I'm curious, like to you, what does you know that fear
• 44:43
  success look like or what does that mean?
• 44:45
  And maybe what are some ways that you see that show up
• 44:49
  potentially through self sabotage or other types of
• 44:52
  symptoms? Yeah, fear of success.
• 44:54
  I mean, first of all, it is very, very real.
• 44:56
  Because here's the thing, it's very easy to say I see the
• 44:59
  vision and the vision is meant to be the breadcrumb, right?
• 45:03
  Or it's meant to be the yellow brick road.
• 45:04
  It's it's Oz. Sorry.
• 45:05
  It's it's meant to be the big OK, this is where I'm going.
• 45:08
  But then there's who you have to become and develop into, which
• 45:12
  is really the core you in order to get there, which means you
• 45:16
  have to confront all parts of you.
• 45:18
  That's also scary. A lot of the fear of success.
• 45:21
  So let's even even from like a social media perspective, people
• 45:24
  have a fear of being seen because it goes back to that
• 45:26
  fear that there's something wrong with me.
• 45:27
  Well, if I become so exposed, Oh my God, they're going to find
• 45:30
  out whatever, which usually that's like nothing really,
• 45:33
  right? Or it's the shame you're holding
• 45:34
  onto from something perhaps in your childhood.
• 45:36
  That's why doing shadow work is unbelievable when you start just
• 45:40
  writing. What I would even encourage
• 45:42
  everyone to do is even just, you know, listen to, you know, some
• 45:45
  beautiful instrumental music or anything to just get you in the
• 45:48
  zone, right? And just start writing.
• 45:51
  Like if you feel like you're coming up against frustration or
• 45:53
  resist, just write. It does.
• 45:55
  It's not going to make any sense.
• 45:56
  Get it out on no one's ever going to see it.
• 45:57
  Get it out on paper, swear, do whatever you got to do.
• 45:59
  Just write. Just write.
• 46:00
  Just write. If you keep on writing, you'll
• 46:01
  hit it. You're going to hit it and
• 46:03
  you'll know because immediately you feel the emotion, you'll
• 46:05
  feel something clear through you.
• 46:07
  You have to illuminate that because then going back to our
• 46:10
  first concept, the illusion, you recognize that's all smoke and
• 46:13
  mirrors, right? For me, I did some writing a
• 46:17
  ways back and I felt myself coming up against this.
• 46:21
  I'm going, what the heck? And it, it presented itself
• 46:24
  through the frustration. But if I didn't have the
• 46:26
  frustration, I wouldn't have gone in to go figure out what
• 46:28
  was going on. So I needed those breakdown
• 46:31
  moments. So I started writing and writing
• 46:32
  and writing, and I just wrote this and I'll never forget.
• 46:34
  I wrote. I feel like I'm a burden to
• 46:38
  anyone I'm around and that I have no actual value and that
• 46:41
  I'm a nuisance. And I went, whoa, OK, didn't
• 46:46
  know what's holding on to that. Immediate tears, immediate
• 46:49
  tears. Now consciously did I think, no,
• 46:52
  no, I understand the value, you know, but subconsciously there
• 46:55
  was a really core wounded part of, of younger inner tailor that
• 46:58
  was going, hey, that's that's what we're feeling.
• 47:01
  And I could look at that and go, whoa, if God was trying to
• 47:05
  illuminate that, then that means the opposite is true.
• 47:08
  Whoa. And I meditated on that.
• 47:10
  I sat with that. I went, oh, my gosh.
• 47:13
  The more that you bring it to light, you're able to identify
• 47:17
  what that illusion is. So it has to be looked at.
• 47:20
  I always say the forest is the way home.
• 47:22
  But ask yourself, do I fear being seen?
• 47:25
  And for some people, it's money. This is a big one because we go,
• 47:29
  Oh my God, you know, I can't wait to have, you know,
• 47:30
  $1,000,000. And then you look at your bank
• 47:33
  account, you're in debt. You're like, well, I don't even
• 47:34
  know. Oh my God, taxes.
• 47:35
  What's going to happen with that?
• 47:36
  Who do I even go? So then your brain starts to go,
• 47:38
  whoa, we can't do that. When the reality is, first of
• 47:42
  all, to get to that level, you'll be presented with the
• 47:44
  right people, the opportunities, you do the research, all of
• 47:46
  that. So that would go back to, OK, So
• 47:49
  what is that core fear? I don't know how to manage
• 47:51
  money. You know, I'm not able to,
• 47:54
  whatever it might be, go back to that, identify where that came
• 47:57
  from. And even the money store you
• 48:00
  have, we don't think about how our family responded to money
• 48:04
  growing up, you know, did your parents come home and oh God,
• 48:07
  work to do and blah, blah, blah. What do you do at work?
• 48:09
  We, we make money. So now you're attributing money
• 48:12
  to I hate work. Do you know what I mean?
• 48:14
  So it's all connected. So it's easy to say I want all
• 48:17
  this big stuff, but then to go, oh, but there's a really,
• 48:20
  there's a wounded part of me that's scared of it.
• 48:23
  Start writing, sit on it and listen.
• 48:25
  You know, seek and you shall find asking it is given if you
• 48:27
  set the intention. Show this to me.
• 48:30
  I'm ready to walk through this. Show this to me.
• 48:34
  It will come up to you in ways that you don't expect, but it'll
• 48:37
  be presented. So maybe it's this podcast, it's
• 48:39
  triggering something or it's pulling something up and someone
• 48:41
  sit, write about it. Write what's bothering you.
• 48:44
  Write what feels good. Just start writing and you'll
• 48:47
  illuminate that, right? Once you illuminate that, then
• 48:51
  you want to start to think about.
• 48:52
  So what is now the truth I'm choosing to accept?
• 48:55
  OK, what are the beliefs that I actually am ready to embody that
• 48:59
  are going to help me start to walk in this direction?
• 49:01
  Because I've decided that that success is for me.
• 49:04
  But I've also decided that I get to be safe in the process of
• 49:07
  going there. And it's not all going to happen
• 49:10
  right now, which is amazing. So let me think about the next
• 49:13
  piece, right? So then that helps you get out
• 49:15
  of this place of feeling paralyzed and you can take your
• 49:18
  first step. I love that I, I had a resource
• 49:21
  that was passed on from a mentor to me that was called fear
• 49:24
  journaling. And he was like, I want you to
• 49:25
  get a separate journal. And all I want you to put in
• 49:28
  this is the negative thoughts, emotions, feelings and things
• 49:32
  that come up in you. This is not a place where you're
• 49:34
  going to journal about the guy you like.
• 49:35
  It's not a place where you're going to plan out your vision
• 49:37
  for your year. This is not about positivity.
• 49:39
  You're going to open this and it's only a place for
• 49:41
  negativity. And I'm thinking this feels a
• 49:43
  little bit intense. Do I want to have this journal?
• 49:46
  So I started to think about is this really something that I
• 49:48
  want to have? So I still able to go.
• 49:50
  I said, well, how do I know I'm done?
• 49:51
  He's like, you'll know when you're done.
• 49:53
  And I was like, OK, so I put on same thing.
• 49:56
  I put on some music and I got this journal and I started going
• 49:59
  and like 12 pages later, I remember that moment like you
• 50:03
  said that you wrote something down you go, oh, and I remember
• 50:06
  writing down same thing, worthless, never going to make
• 50:10
  it behind in life. And I thought, Oh my gosh, when
• 50:13
  I started to just have this like light bulb moment where you see
• 50:17
  it, you read it in a different way that you don't feel it.
• 50:20
  You're like, that's not me. Like I'm, I'm writing it, I'm
• 50:22
  saying it, I'm putting this down.
• 50:25
  But somehow in me, that doesn't feel like me.
• 50:28
  And I think the thing that many people don't take time to do is
• 50:34
  to acknowledge what those are. So to your point about money,
• 50:38
  like if you're like, great, I want to have a 7 figure
• 50:40
  business. So like for me, and we've, you
• 50:42
  know, talked about it very briefly on this podcast, like
• 50:45
  one of my grandparents won the lottery and did not share that
• 50:49
  wealth with the family. So like for me, having a 7
• 50:53
  figure business was not just about 7 figures.
• 50:55
  It was about this whole history of family drama about, you know,
• 50:59
  money and what the seven figures or $1,000,000 meant in my family
• 51:03
  specifically in context to all of these other things.
• 51:06
  And so for me, when I went in business, I thought $1,000,000
• 51:08
  is $1,000,000 in revenue. Great.
• 51:10
  Like it's just, it's a successful number to get to.
• 51:13
  No, it was this whole idea of like bouncing back and showing
• 51:16
  my worth and showing my family that we're going to be fine and
• 51:20
  I'm going to do it and we don't need the lottery and all of
• 51:22
  these things. And it was not ever something
• 51:27
  that I consciously connected the dots on.
• 51:30
  I just thought, I hustle, I work hard.
• 51:32
  I just want $1,000,000 just because.
• 51:35
  And so it wasn't until you start to allow space.
• 51:39
  And I, I love that idea of just not going in with a goal because
• 51:43
  I think so many of us like high achievers, like what's the
• 51:45
  outcome? What's the outcome?
• 51:46
  Or how do I know I've done it right?
• 51:48
  Going in to just Createspace and say whatever comes up is
• 51:51
  supposed to come out is something that I think so few of
• 51:56
  us take space to do. And so sometimes because we're
• 51:59
  so in the pursuit of the success, we don't really ask
• 52:03
  ourselves why do we even want it?
• 52:05
  And also with that, where does it come from?
• 52:08
  If we're like, OK, great. I'm I'm super scared of getting
• 52:11
  there. The other thing that was
• 52:12
  connected to my fear around things was also doing some
• 52:16
  analysis as well of like, why do I want 7 figures?
• 52:20
  And when someone asked me other than the number, I couldn't
• 52:23
  answer it. Like I said, OK, like great.
• 52:25
  Obviously you want to make 7 figures a year.
• 52:26
  That's amazing. I love that goal for you and
• 52:28
  comma. Why do you want that?
• 52:31
  And I'm like, well, just because, you know, 7 figures,
• 52:33
  like, no, I hear what you're saying, but what's the deeper
• 52:37
  why? And I also think there's an
• 52:39
  aspect of when people don't understand the depth underneath
• 52:43
  the superficial surface goal, we sometimes don't understand the
• 52:47
  emotions, the thoughts, the programming, the beliefs that
• 52:50
  are part of the achievement of that.
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  So, yeah, So like I think that that's also a huge part when
• 52:57
  people think, well, why would I be scared to succeed?
• 53:00
  When you achieve it, you have to embrace the identity of it, the
• 53:03
  beliefs of it, the behavior of it all, and healing all the past
• 53:07
  wounds that that might bring up to the surface when it happens.
• 53:10
  Like there's so much that expands, evolves and opens when
• 53:14
  you go for it, whatever it may be.
• 53:16
  So to your point of being seen, if you're somebody who has a
• 53:19
  fear of being seen and you are like, great, I'm going to be a
• 53:22
  content creator. I'm going to be a business.
• 53:23
  I'm going to start to post online and your video goes
• 53:26
  viral. You're going to have a visceral
• 53:28
  reaction because you just got deeply seen by the Internet.
• 53:33
  And if you don't know, like the practices that Taylor's talking
• 53:37
  about, if you don't have these tools, you go, oh, that didn't
• 53:40
  feel good. I was way too seen and I wasn't
• 53:42
  comfortable being seen. So now we retreat.
• 53:44
  And that ultimately I see as a pattern for people that they
• 53:48
  kind of tricked themselves out of success because they don't
• 53:52
  understand where the fear around their success is actually rooted
• 53:55
  in. It's so powerful and yes.
• 53:58
  And I think what you just hit is so huge, which is what is the
• 54:02
  motive behind what we're doing and why.
• 54:05
  And you know what, it was easy for me to say even at the
• 54:07
  beginning of my content creation journey, like, Oh yeah, it's
• 54:10
  going to be exciting what, you know, viral, all this and that,
• 54:13
  like it, you are given what you can handle.
• 54:17
  And with, I mean, even just using the configuration example,
• 54:20
  you know, with virality, you have a lot of different people
• 54:24
  that are coming over. You have people with opposing
• 54:26
  views and some have really intense opposing views, right?
• 54:28
  And so all of that. And so it makes sense.
• 54:32
  You're given what you can chew, right?
• 54:34
  And you're given what you can handle at the time.
• 54:36
  That's a gift. So, you know, especially for
• 54:40
  those that are going, OK, well, I'm coming up against something.
• 54:42
  It's just not there. I mean, really take time, take
• 54:45
  stock, look at where you are right about it.
• 54:47
  Sit with it. Have a sobering conversation
• 54:50
  with yourself. What did you learn from the
• 54:51
  failure that you tangibly need to implement, right?
• 54:55
  What did you learn? I mean, what are you learning,
• 54:57
  right? And as you sit with that, then
• 55:00
  you get in the right headspace and into that beautiful place of
• 55:03
  gratitude and joy for the fact that you're able to even walk
• 55:07
  towards this, the fact that there's even been an open door
• 55:10
  for you to even pursue this, right?
• 55:13
  And also thinking about it this way, this has helped me so much
• 55:17
  with the timeline thing. Sometimes I don't even think we
• 55:19
  have a set, you know, timeline or date in our heads.
• 55:22
  It's just like now, now, now, now.
• 55:23
  And we're going, what? What the heck, you know?
• 55:26
  And then I say to myself, I said, wait a second.
• 55:28
  I said, let me be honest, Do I even want this now?
• 55:30
  And I said, what? You know, I'm like, if I'm on
• 55:32
  vacation, I'm not rushing for it to end.
• 55:34
  Why am I rushing for this to end right now, right?
• 55:37
  I'm not rushing. And I say to myself, you know,
• 55:39
  there's certain things I'm going, well, maybe I'll be when
• 55:42
  I'm 40. I have never asked that that I
• 55:47
  love how simple. And by the way, I want to say
• 55:49
  all the things that are actually successful are always simple.
• 55:51
  Like you want to, yes, equally move your body, right?
• 55:54
  That's it's always simple. I love that question because I'm
• 55:58
  thinking about that in so many contexts for the person
• 56:00
  listening and even myself. I'm like, I'm so deeply, like I
• 56:03
  want to be a mom. I want to be a mom.
• 56:04
  It's always been something I've wanted.
• 56:06
  And I think to myself in this moment, if I had a kid tomorrow,
• 56:07
  would you be happy? And I'm like, Oh, I'm not ready.
• 56:10
  Like, right, so there's this, if I handed it to you tomorrow, can
• 56:15
  you handle it? And I think like or could, would
• 56:18
  you want it? Is it still exactly what you
• 56:20
  desire? And I think that in my body, my
• 56:24
  instant answer is like, no, like I would want process.
• 56:26
  And I think that goes back to your earlier point of like
• 56:28
  exactly why you use this time to mentally, emotionally,
• 56:33
  spiritually prepare yourself for what is the intention of what it
• 56:37
  is you want to go for. I love that question.
• 56:40
  If I gave it to you today. Would you be able to handle it?
• 56:42
  Yeah. Oh, yeah.
• 56:43
  I asked. I mean, that was one of the, I
• 56:46
  think on my, my socials last year.
• 56:47
  That was a huge one that I, that I ended up asking.
• 56:49
  I said, if it dropped in your lap right now, would you be
• 56:51
  ready to handle it? And it is so freeing to be like,
• 56:53
  oh, no, not really, you know, but it, it, you might not be
• 56:56
  able to handle the full capacity of it right now, depending on
• 56:59
  what, what that is for everyone. But again, then you start to
• 57:02
  say, oh, I kind of like that I have a staircase.
• 57:04
  I kind of like that I'm not being thrown into this.
• 57:05
  And my nervous system is going to be all, you know,
• 57:07
  discombobulated, you know, let it be actionable.
• 57:09
  And when you really think about it, I mean, personally, I think
• 57:13
  I'm going, oh, my gosh. You know, we're young.
• 57:16
  And I don't care how old anyone listening to this is.
• 57:18
  There's always time, right? I mean, you know, we have so
• 57:21
  many more years ahead of us. What is the rush and why?
• 57:25
  And if I'm rushing now when I get there, would I rush then?
• 57:29
  Because when I get there, I would want it to slow.
• 57:32
  I want to savor this. But am I on the hamster wheel?
• 57:34
  So I'm telling you, when you position yourself like it's such
• 57:36
  a gift to work through this now, then when you're at that level
• 57:40
  and you're the same person needing to work through all the
• 57:43
  same things, but everything is amplified and you have so much
• 57:47
  more on your plate and you have, you know what I mean?
• 57:49
  So it's just beautiful. So it's enjoying and savouring
• 57:53
  the journey is recognizing like you're always on the journey.
• 57:55
  You're never not, it never ends. There's no finish line and that
• 57:59
  would be unfortunate if there was.
• 58:01
  Could you imagine if you hit your finish line at, you know,
• 58:03
  40 years old and you're like, what, what am I going to do for
• 58:05
  the night? You know, thank goodness you
• 58:06
  keep having, you know, you arrive somewhere, you nourish,
• 58:09
  you know, and then, oh, I'm excited for this pivot.
• 58:11
  So leading with that curiosity and that excitement for the
• 58:14
  journey. It changes a lot, you know, and
• 58:17
  even these perspective shifts that we have today, Oh my gosh,
• 58:22
  like if anyone listen, just go about the rest of your day
• 58:24
  today, anyone listening and just don't enjoy, you know, go listen
• 58:27
  to the birds go, you know, that's because just just because
• 58:30
  and see what ideas pop up and you know, see what starts to
• 58:33
  line up, it all unfolds. Into a session with my therapist
• 58:37
  and I was telling her just transparently for everybody.
• 58:40
  I was like so frustrated with my timeline because I was like, you
• 58:42
  know, it's just not where I was supposed to be at this age.
• 58:45
  And she's like, well, you know, I'm going to be honest.
• 58:47
  You could completely, royally messed up the next two years of
• 58:50
  your life and you would be perfectly fine.
• 58:52
  And I'm like, oh, OK, so she's like, I think we should assume
• 58:56
  that you're going to do that. And I was like, oh, OK, So she's
• 59:00
  like, I want you to live the next two years of your life
• 59:02
  assuming that everything could perfectly go wrong the way that
• 59:06
  it's supposed to and that you will still be fine.
• 59:08
  And that's going to be your motto is like, I'm just going to
• 59:10
  live assuming that the next two years I get to do whatever I
• 59:13
  want and it doesn't matter in the longer timeline.
• 59:16
  And it was interesting because while it seems on one hand very
• 59:19
  negative, you think, oh, I don't want to assume that I'm going to
• 59:20
  mess up the next two years. It gives you this permission
• 59:23
  slip to be like, I get to be free.
• 59:26
  And just the reality is eventually you're going to get
• 59:28
  to this age and you're going to get to a point in your life,
• 59:29
  whether it's age or wisdom that comes first.
• 59:32
  And you're going to realize that it is that way the entire time.
• 59:35
  Like people get to this place where they realize, well, you
• 59:38
  know, this is life. So what it's going to be is
• 59:39
  going to be and the belief or the desire to control is only
• 59:44
  because you so deeply fear and are not comfortable with having
• 59:47
  to sit in the present. And so I think like there's,
• 59:52
  there's just so much today. Obviously you guys can first of
• 59:54
  all break. This is also why I'm obsessed
• 59:57
  with his content. OK, like just, I just wanted to
• 59:59
  hear him speak for like 7 hours a day.
• 1:00:01
  It's fine. I want to hit on.
• 1:00:03
  Something you mentioned earlier, because I think this is
• 1:00:06
  something that many people probably don't have experience
• 1:00:08
  with or exposure to, which is the idea of getting found out
• 1:00:12
  and the idea of getting, you know, people seeing that I'm
• 1:00:16
  basically not perfect or in whatever capacity that is.
• 1:00:20
  And I feel like many of us consciously again, tell
• 1:00:26
  ourselves like, of course I'm not perfect, right?
• 1:00:29
  Of course I, of course I don't have the, the perfect aesthetic
• 1:00:31
  or the perfect income or the perfect business or the perfect,
• 1:00:34
  whatever it might be. But I think again,
• 1:00:36
  subconsciously that's very different.
• 1:00:38
  And I'm curious when you have worked with people who have this
• 1:00:41
  fear of like, but what if they find out?
• 1:00:44
  What do you usually find underneath that?
• 1:00:47
  Well, that's the whole thing. It's all smoke and mirrors.
• 1:00:49
  It's all it's it's this. Oh my God.
• 1:00:51
  What? They're going to find out What?
• 1:00:53
  OK, what are they going to find out?
• 1:00:54
  Tell me that you feel like you're worthless, that you feel
• 1:01:00
  like you don't have any value. We all know that everyone else
• 1:01:04
  can see more value in us than we can see in ourselves.
• 1:01:07
  So the core of that and you know, maybe that there's some
• 1:01:10
  tangible personal things that people have to come to terms
• 1:01:12
  with and come, you know, make peace with, right, instead of
• 1:01:15
  just talking things. But for the most part, that's
• 1:01:17
  really illuminating that fear that we each are fundamentally
• 1:01:24
  there's a piece of us missing. We're not whole.
• 1:01:26
  We're not, you know, and it's looking at that and realizing
• 1:01:29
  that in itself is an illusion. Where did that come from?
• 1:01:33
  Why is that there? Write about it.
• 1:01:34
  Tell me. Write a whole dissertation on
• 1:01:35
  it. Tell me.
• 1:01:36
  Well, because of right. And so when you do that, you're
• 1:01:40
  able to kind of confront that and go, it's the same thing that
• 1:01:43
  you experience that we both experience when we're writing.
• 1:01:45
  You look at that, you go, oh, and you're like, I didn't even
• 1:01:49
  realize I was holding on to it. You've been operating in that
• 1:01:52
  place and we do start this. We go, why am I doing this?
• 1:01:54
  But then you look at that and you go, OK, wait a second.
• 1:01:57
  Where did that belief come from? And then that's, you know, I
• 1:02:00
  call it like a return to sender moment, you know, return that
• 1:02:03
  belief back. That's an Amazon package you
• 1:02:05
  opened illegally, right? It's not, it wasn't yours,
• 1:02:07
  right? And so and so that's huge.
• 1:02:09
  And So what I find and I found with myself and with a lot of
• 1:02:12
  other people, it's that it's just this illusion that we are
• 1:02:17
  somehow like scum of the earth, you know, and it's just not
• 1:02:20
  true. It's not true.
• 1:02:22
  And, you know, you go, why do I feel that?
• 1:02:25
  Like that doesn't make any sense.
• 1:02:26
  There's no, like, I, I have no evidence of that.
• 1:02:29
  Of course I'm human. I'm not perfect.
• 1:02:31
  And, you know, life is life and life keeps moving.
• 1:02:34
  But it's, I mean, you look at everyone.
• 1:02:35
  It's like that in itself. And this is the beautiful thing.
• 1:02:38
  When we think that there's something wrong with us, we go,
• 1:02:40
  oh, my God, like I must, I'm the only one.
• 1:02:43
  Like there must I, I see I have no worth.
• 1:02:46
  Well, that in itself is a universal experience.
• 1:02:49
  Everybody feels that you could talk to, you know, celebrities
• 1:02:53
  or anyone at at different areas. Everybody is human.
• 1:02:58
  You know, when I've talked to a lot of people, I mean really
• 1:03:00
  it's everybody has those feelings.
• 1:03:04
  You know, I think there's. Different.
• 1:03:05
  I think it's this constant moving benchmark.
• 1:03:09
  That's what it feels like. It feels like there's, it's just
• 1:03:11
  it's never done and there's always more.
• 1:03:15
  And I think that one of the things I always tell people when
• 1:03:17
  they say that, you know, in calls or clients, whatever it
• 1:03:20
  might be, your friends, like, I'm not where I'm supposed to
• 1:03:23
  be. And the common phrase I always
• 1:03:25
  ask is like, in comparison to what?
• 1:03:27
  Exactly. Because I think it's when we
• 1:03:30
  have these constant moving benchmarks.
• 1:03:34
  And so I always ask people like if you could look back on past
• 1:03:37
  self, even if it's past self of a year.
• 1:03:40
  But like for me, being in business for eight years when I
• 1:03:42
  started and I was a server with my apron on, sneaking in the
• 1:03:46
  back, scrolling Instagram, watching everyone live the life
• 1:03:48
  I wanted. Yeah, yeah, totally.
• 1:03:51
  Sorry, managers, I, I would have never fathomed being here on
• 1:03:58
  this show with you. Like like just even for us to
• 1:04:02
  connect on the Internet would have been like, what?
• 1:04:04
  Like I get to meet this amazing human that I met through
• 1:04:06
  Instagram. Like that would have never even
• 1:04:08
  been something that I would think possible, let alone having
• 1:04:11
  a business or any of like the you know, the accolades or any
• 1:04:14
  of those things. So in the moment, you just
• 1:04:18
  always feel like you're behind. And truthfully, even now, as
• 1:04:22
  I've said, and you know, depends on the bucket, but in many
• 1:04:25
  buckets of my life, I feel like it's not enough.
• 1:04:27
  Like could be more fit in comparison to what?
• 1:04:29
  I could be more successful in comparison to what?
• 1:04:32
  I could be making more money in comparison to what?
• 1:04:34
  And I find that if we start to look at past us, we're like, I'm
• 1:04:39
  killing it, right? Like I'm doing really well.
• 1:04:41
  And so I think the aspect of like, what if they find out one
• 1:04:46
  of the most powerful things that got shared with me at the
• 1:04:48
  beginning, because as I mentioned earlier, when I was in
• 1:04:50
  grade AI founded, I had a learning disability.
• 1:04:52
  And even as a business consultant, full transparency, I
• 1:04:54
  did not go to school for business.
• 1:04:56
  I built this basically bootstrap from the bottom and I have
• 1:05:00
  worked with businesses since that day.
• 1:05:02
  So I at the beginning had this aspect of almost like imposter
• 1:05:06
  syndrome because I was like, what if they find out?
• 1:05:09
  I'm a fraud, right? I'm a.
• 1:05:11
  Fraud. Yeah.
• 1:05:11
  Like what if they find out that I don't have the degree that
• 1:05:13
  they want me to have? What if they find out that I had
• 1:05:16
  a learning disability and even, you know, last year I I ended an
• 1:05:19
  engagement and I had this heavy pressure of like, what if they
• 1:05:24
  find out that this has happened? Like, what will people think of
• 1:05:27
  me? Will they want to hire me?
• 1:05:29
  And I, I love to your point of like celebrities, every stage of
• 1:05:32
  human feels this in some capacity.
• 1:05:35
  And what I realized was, well, what if they find out is only if
• 1:05:39
  I don't get to it first. So the mentor that I had chatted
• 1:05:43
  with had passed along. He said people only get to find
• 1:05:46
  out what you allow them to find out.
• 1:05:48
  Take it back, like own it as whatever it is.
• 1:05:52
  So the first episode I recorded was here's my family story.
• 1:05:56
  So we can just get that out of the way.
• 1:05:57
  And second of all, we're going to drop learning disability in
• 1:06:00
  there, drop not going to school for business and all the things
• 1:06:03
  that held so much weight for me. And I found this like massive
• 1:06:07
  freedom and this like weight off my shoulders because it was less
• 1:06:10
  of like, what if someone asks me?
• 1:06:12
  What if someone finds out? And now I own it as this like
• 1:06:15
  badge of honor. And I'm like, hey, if I'm not
• 1:06:17
  your person because of that, amazing.
• 1:06:19
  Like I that's all good. I will direct you in the
• 1:06:22
  direction of the person that if that is important to you, who
• 1:06:25
  you should work with. But I find for many people,
• 1:06:28
  there's a fear around owning it because they're like, but Kate,
• 1:06:32
  that's easy for you to say now that you're here.
• 1:06:34
  But I think it's a mindset personally, because it's really
• 1:06:37
  something that from the get go, I had to say, OK, 321, I'm going
• 1:06:41
  to embrace this because if I don't, it is this, to your
• 1:06:44
  point, this illusion that's over top of me in every move I make
• 1:06:49
  in business, in life, in anything.
• 1:06:52
  And if I don't own it, someone else is going to own it for me.
• 1:06:55
  And that takes all the power away from what it means to me
• 1:06:58
  specifically. Absolutely.
• 1:07:00
  And when you remove the power of what it is in the 1st place, I
• 1:07:04
  mean you can establish power to it or remove the power from it.
• 1:07:06
  It's what you and when someone else, let's say, oh, you didn't
• 1:07:10
  go to school for what whatever it might be, you've already come
• 1:07:13
  to terms with that. You're like, and here I am like
• 1:07:16
  it does. It doesn't even it wouldn't you
• 1:07:17
  wouldn't even blink at it. You wouldn't Even so, so much of
• 1:07:21
  it. The things that trigger us, of
• 1:07:21
  course, are it's those internal pieces that we have to come to
• 1:07:24
  terms with. And so even for people
• 1:07:26
  listening, it can start with the whole like, you know, I'm I'm
• 1:07:30
  going to lift it up. I'm going to feel really good.
• 1:07:31
  Or it can even just start with the all right, well, let me just
• 1:07:34
  let me, let me take a look at this for a second, Like let me
• 1:07:36
  accept this. Let me take a look at this.
• 1:07:38
  And, you know, this is really the truth of the matter is, you
• 1:07:42
  know, everyone listening, you're worthy of it.
• 1:07:44
  You are, you know, your your worth is innate.
• 1:07:47
  You know, every part of this beautiful creation is
• 1:07:49
  intentional, you know, And when the rabbit's going for the
• 1:07:52
  carrot, it's not like, am I worthy of the carrot?
• 1:07:54
  It just goes for the carrot, right.
• 1:07:56
  We just tend to, you know, overanalyze.
• 1:07:58
  Yeah. You know, it's like, you know,
• 1:08:00
  the sun's not like, should I rise the next day?
• 1:08:02
  Well, I hope you do, you know, like I'm going to need my
• 1:08:04
  vitamin D. So, you know, rise up.
• 1:08:06
  Rise up in in the posture of victory and walk like a
• 1:08:11
  foundational part of this beautiful creation.
• 1:08:13
  You know, you are someone who is here not by coincidence.
• 1:08:16
  Not like I don't know who's this person that just flew in here
• 1:08:17
  like you're here. You're here by design.
• 1:08:20
  You know, what's placed on your heart is beautifully there for
• 1:08:22
  you to walk towards. Not for reasons you may think.
• 1:08:24
  We don't know how it's going to unfold, but you got to start
• 1:08:26
  walking towards it and accept that otherwise life becomes it.
• 1:08:29
  It's just starting to get a little more confined, right?
• 1:08:31
  It's like trying to break out of a box, start walking towards it,
• 1:08:34
  and all this is really doing is inviting you to savor and
• 1:08:37
  embrace the meal in front of you rather than, well, what's next?
• 1:08:40
  Well, what's next? Well, hold on, the fillet is
• 1:08:42
  here, you know what I mean? And there's more and we're on a
• 1:08:45
  restaurant tour and then we're going to go to the next one.
• 1:08:47
  And so on your topic of the goal post, it is beautiful to say
• 1:08:51
  because you could even flip that to go like, Oh my God, there's
• 1:08:53
  always more. There's always more.
• 1:08:56
  It doesn't stop. There's always, Oh my gosh, like
• 1:09:00
  there's more to expand with, there's more to learn.
• 1:09:01
  There's ah, like what it's, it's incredible.
• 1:09:05
  So it's, it's looking at it with the right frame of mind and also
• 1:09:08
  saying, you know, if we're going towards something nearly
• 1:09:12
  unconsciously, like what is the goal post?
• 1:09:15
  I've asked this to people before.
• 1:09:16
  They're like, I don't know, you know, where some people have
• 1:09:20
  said, you know, I have to get ahead.
• 1:09:22
  I have to get ahead, get ahead of what?
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  What's the OK, Like what's the metric of when will you know
• 1:09:26
  that you're there? I don't know, I guess, yeah,
• 1:09:28
  it's, it's in our minds, right. And so we can have a goal post,
• 1:09:32
  but acknowledge it, own it, you achieve it.
• 1:09:36
  Great. OK, well, now what gets to be
• 1:09:37
  the next one? It's like you get you get to
• 1:09:39
  just savor. So the more that you can embrace
• 1:09:41
  and being ground into who you are, where you are, all of this
• 1:09:44
  becomes really cool. You know, because it really is.
• 1:09:48
  I'm thinking for that that person because you brought up
• 1:09:50
  worthiness, which I think is something a lot of people don't
• 1:09:52
  acknowledge or talk about. It's kind of like this like
• 1:09:54
  hidden thing in the closet that none of us want to acknowledge.
• 1:09:57
  And I think there's many people that I've spoken to and who may
• 1:10:02
  be listening right now who feel that they're not worthy until
• 1:10:07
  right. So I'm I'm worthy of being a
• 1:10:10
  business owner when I get to this income.
• 1:10:13
  I'm worthy of being a content creator when I have X amount of
• 1:10:16
  followers. I'm worthy of, you know, signing
• 1:10:19
  that client when I have X credentials or I have to get
• 1:10:21
  that certification before I possibly could help somebody.
• 1:10:24
  I'm worthy of doing the podcast when I have all these this fancy
• 1:10:28
  equipment, this crazy setup, then at that moment I will be
• 1:10:32
  worthy of doing blank. And you hit on something so
• 1:10:35
  important because I think people obviously get this, the source
• 1:10:38
  of worthiness from different places.
• 1:10:40
  Some people, as you noted, will get some of that worthiness from
• 1:10:43
  faith and knowing that they are innately worthy regardless of
• 1:10:46
  all of those things. But I'm thinking for someone who
• 1:10:49
  maybe hasn't had a relationship with worthiness and maybe even
• 1:10:54
  potentially, which I have seen and know, especially in European
• 1:10:59
  families, when you're from certain types of upbringing, you
• 1:11:03
  also sometimes are programmed to not feel worthy until it's this
• 1:11:07
  destination place, right? So we talked about destination
• 1:11:10
  happiness, but I think there's this other part that you just
• 1:11:12
  uncovered there. I think so important, which is
• 1:11:15
  I'm worthy when. And I think this aspect of I'm
• 1:11:19
  worthy when is a very tricky place to be.
• 1:11:22
  Because if this is not even just about success, this is about in
• 1:11:26
  your moment as you listen to this feeling in your body, in
• 1:11:29
  your mind and your soul, I'm enough.
• 1:11:32
  No more money, no more clients, no more followers, Doesn't
• 1:11:34
  matter. I am enough for you or maybe for
• 1:11:38
  clients, whatever feels kind of it comes up for you.
• 1:11:41
  How do you get there? How did you get there to the
• 1:11:44
  place where you felt like regardless of this external
• 1:11:47
  environment, internally I'm good.
• 1:11:50
  And I think that again also guys like again, breaking through the
• 1:11:54
  3rd wall here. Also why I'm obsessed with this
• 1:11:56
  content because even me, I feel like in moments I'm in search of
• 1:12:00
  that of worthiness in whatever bucket might be.
• 1:12:02
  Sometimes it's physically feeling like, you know, I'm I'm
• 1:12:05
  worthy to show up even if I'm not a certain size or look a
• 1:12:08
  certain way or whatever it might be.
• 1:12:11
  And I know it comes up differently for everybody in
• 1:12:12
  different buckets. But I'm curious for you, how did
• 1:12:15
  you get such a great relate or what is perceived to be, at
• 1:12:19
  least in my opinion, such a great relationship with being
• 1:12:22
  worthy without anything? You know what I will tell you, I
• 1:12:28
  think a huge part of it has actually been removing the goal
• 1:12:31
  post for what that actually means for me because there is no
• 1:12:36
  point of completion where you're like, Oh my gosh, I'm worthy of
• 1:12:41
  everything ever. I think that is a constant,
• 1:12:45
  lifelong, beautiful, beautiful journey of a recognizing who you
• 1:12:50
  are. And what I would encourage
• 1:12:52
  people to do is similar to what we've done in terms of, you
• 1:12:55
  know, the fear of failure. All this different stuff is to
• 1:12:58
  look back, look at the different broken versions of you over the
• 1:13:02
  years and how you've repaired and how you've rebuilt, right?
• 1:13:06
  When you look at that, you go, Oh my gosh, like I have come so
• 1:13:11
  far. I have started to do these
• 1:13:13
  things. Wow, this is the most me I felt
• 1:13:16
  yet. I can't wait to see how much
• 1:13:18
  more unfolds. So I don't think there's ever an
• 1:13:21
  angle. And that's what I've noticed.
• 1:13:22
  It's a lot of people going because we use our our brain
• 1:13:24
  that's going. I want it now goes to how do I
• 1:13:26
  surrender? How do I become worthy, right?
• 1:13:29
  That is a continuous goal. But one thing I will tell you is
• 1:13:33
  I always like to think to myself, wow, it's kind of
• 1:13:36
  remarkable that no matter what I do, no matter what I think, the
• 1:13:40
  sun still shines the next day, the birds still chirp, the tide
• 1:13:44
  always returns, and life keeps going.
• 1:13:47
  Summer still shows up, fall still shows.
• 1:13:49
  And there's a lesson there. There's a lesson when you look
• 1:13:53
  around and you look at nature and it's somehow provided for
• 1:13:56
  until we interfere with it. But it's somehow provided for,
• 1:13:59
  right? It's not looking for where then
• 1:14:01
  it just is. So sometimes when you are able
• 1:14:07
  to get back to those places of alignment, right, Abrahamics
• 1:14:12
  calls it the vortex. When you're feeling good and
• 1:14:14
  you're aligned, you're like, I've got it.
• 1:14:15
  I'm I'm vibing. Oh, I got the ideas.
• 1:14:18
  You're not really thinking about your worth as much.
• 1:14:20
  You're just in the flow. When you're in the flow, you are
• 1:14:24
  in this beautiful creation. You are doing what you're
• 1:14:26
  designed to do. So part of the journey, I think
• 1:14:30
  is recognizing that you get to drop your shoulders.
• 1:14:35
  You get to take a deep breath, you get to relax and release
• 1:14:39
  your forehead and release your jaw like you get to breathe and
• 1:14:43
  nothing will crumble around you. You will be OK and not in
• 1:14:47
  itself. It is safe to feel that.
• 1:14:49
  And so some of it comes down to safety, right?
• 1:14:53
  Sometimes worthiness isn't even something we have to build up
• 1:14:56
  to, right? Often times when we do things,
• 1:14:58
  we start with a posture that's kind of high, you know what I
• 1:15:00
  mean? And eventually we rise up to it
• 1:15:01
  because that's great to do. You know, it's just like lifting
• 1:15:04
  weights. I mean, you got to, you got to
• 1:15:05
  kind of practice it, but it's the permission.
• 1:15:09
  And you said it before too, and I love this statement, the
• 1:15:10
  permission slip to say, you know what, I'm going to challenge
• 1:15:13
  myself to an afternoon and normally I'd be hustling like
• 1:15:17
  crazy. You know what?
• 1:15:17
  Today I'm just going to, I want to prioritize some joy and
• 1:15:21
  you're going to look at how beautiful everything is around
• 1:15:24
  you. So the more that you get to just
• 1:15:26
  release into that, the better it feels.
• 1:15:28
  But my answer to that would be it's a journey.
• 1:15:32
  It never ends. It is a constant, beautiful
• 1:15:35
  journey and I think what we're getting at today is learning to
• 1:15:39
  enjoy and accept the fact that we're all on a journey and it
• 1:15:43
  never ends. It just keeps flowing.
• 1:15:45
  So worthiness is and and by the way, you will be presented with
• 1:15:49
  great opportunities that show you that you were worthy and
• 1:15:53
  opportunities and challenges that come to you to stretch that
• 1:15:58
  ability to go, oh, I'm worthy of this too.
• 1:16:00
  That will always happen. That never stops.
• 1:16:03
  There's 2. Pieces there.
• 1:16:04
  It's like it's this aspect of worthiness in no evidence, but
• 1:16:10
  using moments that show your worthiness to give you more
• 1:16:13
  proof in those moments that you need it.
• 1:16:16
  And I think you know that aspect, as you said, of like,
• 1:16:18
  you know, the trees don't look for acknowledgement.
• 1:16:20
  They just are. The sun doesn't look for
• 1:16:22
  validation. It just is it.
• 1:16:23
  Just is. And you know, one of the quotes
• 1:16:25
  that was passed on to me from a peer was what would you do if
• 1:16:28
  you loved yourself? And it was such a simple thing.
• 1:16:32
  But to your point of like, you're hustling and you're going
• 1:16:34
  and you're going and you're like, I have to do this because
• 1:16:36
  it's like, this is what's going to make me successful.
• 1:16:37
  And this is what makes me enough to be around these people to
• 1:16:40
  make this much money, to have this business.
• 1:16:42
  But if you already just loved yourself right now, would that
• 1:16:46
  matter? And at the end of the day, like
• 1:16:49
  exactly as you noted, it's this relationship with self and I at
• 1:16:53
  times, even in my business career, many times didn't feel
• 1:16:57
  worthy. I would have someone who wanted
• 1:16:58
  to work with me. And I'm like, this person has
• 1:17:00
  way more credentials than I have or someone has a way bigger
• 1:17:03
  following than me or had been in business longer than me, had
• 1:17:06
  more celebrity than me, whatever it might have been.
• 1:17:08
  And there was so much of that lack of worthiness.
• 1:17:10
  I remember saying that to our team and I was like, I do not
• 1:17:13
  feel comfortable with this. This actually came up this
• 1:17:15
  morning because I had another big, big name that kind of came
• 1:17:17
  into my world and I thought, OK, I need that breath.
• 1:17:20
  I need that D, clench the jaw. I'm having a moment.
• 1:17:24
  And it was interesting because even as these moments come up,
• 1:17:28
  they did exactly what you just said, which they said.
• 1:17:30
  But remember last time when you said so and so wasn't worthy,
• 1:17:33
  you've worked with 1800 of those clients now.
• 1:17:36
  Remember when XYZ was like too big to go on their show?
• 1:17:40
  And now you've been on, you know, eight of those shows now.
• 1:17:42
  So I think the two pieces I want to highlight for everybody that
• 1:17:45
  I absolutely love. That, Taylor noted, is this
• 1:17:47
  internal worthiness of knowing that you can love yourself
• 1:17:50
  without all of the evidence and that even in that, it's enough.
• 1:17:54
  But also in those moments where you're having those doubts, just
• 1:17:56
  as I do often, and you have those, am I OK?
• 1:18:00
  Am I enough? Is this like a good enough me
• 1:18:03
  for today to also tune into those moments, as Taylor said,
• 1:18:08
  to be proud of yourself, of all the past versions of you who in
• 1:18:12
  those moments also didn't feel worthy and yet are where you are
• 1:18:15
  today. And I think it's so easy to lose
• 1:18:18
  sight of that because often, again, the goal post is always
• 1:18:20
  moving. We're like, yeah, yeah, that was
• 1:18:21
  before. But now here's where I am
• 1:18:23
  exactly and when we can tune into those.
• 1:18:26
  Like, obviously you guys have heard me talk about the fact
• 1:18:28
  that confidence is a collection of evidence of your competence.
• 1:18:33
  And I think the same thing is true when it comes to, you know,
• 1:18:37
  having that understanding of yourself and your worthiness.
• 1:18:40
  It's looking at the past times where you didn't feel worthy and
• 1:18:44
  looking at all you still were able to persevere through.
• 1:18:46
  And frankly, if you're an entrepreneur in any capacity,
• 1:18:49
  whether it's been for a week or 10 years, it doesn't matter.
• 1:18:52
  There's been moments where you've not wanted to do this or
• 1:18:55
  you didn't think you were worthy to have a business or worthy to
• 1:18:57
  show up online or worthy to sell that package, and yet you did.
• 1:19:01
  And so I think it's finding those and tuning into those
• 1:19:04
  because when we have those moments where we're super
• 1:19:07
  emotionally charged and we're like, I don't feel like I'm
• 1:19:09
  worthy of blank, our brain is going to find any evidence to
• 1:19:13
  prove us to be right. And so it's only when you feed
• 1:19:16
  it with, as you noted, those past versions of you that you
• 1:19:19
  go, wait a second. OK, you're kind of right.
• 1:19:21
  I did do ABCDE and I am where I am today.
• 1:19:25
  And it kind of gives you yourself as the inspiration
• 1:19:28
  instead of putting someone else again, that destination, that
• 1:19:31
  thing outside of you as the reason that you continue to
• 1:19:35
  move. So I love that of like a finding
• 1:19:38
  the internal worthiness without any other evidence, but also
• 1:19:41
  using past evidence in those moments to help give you even
• 1:19:45
  more of what you might need to feel that and embody it like the
• 1:19:49
  deepest level. Absolutely, and it's so much of
• 1:19:52
  it is allowing like allowing yourself to be held, you know,
• 1:19:55
  allow, you know, for anyone who has, you know, spiritual has a
• 1:19:58
  faith, like allowing yourself to be loved, allowing yourself to
• 1:20:01
  be held by just being here. You know, and that there's
• 1:20:04
  really no metric of success for you to be worthy, which is
• 1:20:07
  great, and that takes time to acclimate to.
• 1:20:08
  But when you look for it, you'll find it.
• 1:20:10
  You'll start to see it with the opportunities.
• 1:20:13
  I literally can't say anything other than yes to everything
• 1:20:15
  that you say. I'm just like, yes, yes.
• 1:20:17
  If I could just applause over here, I would.
• 1:20:19
  The entire time. This was so good.
• 1:20:21
  And I obviously we covered a lot today.
• 1:20:23
  And obviously for you listening, we've gone over, you know, the
• 1:20:26
  relationship to failure and the fear of success and the fear of
• 1:20:30
  being seen, the fear of feeling the need to be perfect, perfect.
• 1:20:33
  How to really understand and overcome this idea of am I
• 1:20:37
  worthy? So like, I want to encourage
• 1:20:40
  everybody to go back through today's episode and and use this
• 1:20:43
  as a master class and finding yourself is really how I see it.
• 1:20:46
  Because I think, you know, as I said today, I am absolutely
• 1:20:51
  obsessed with Taylor's content. And the reason that I just
• 1:20:54
  absolutely fell in love with it was because when he shared what
• 1:20:57
  he shared today in little snippets of 30 and 60 seconds, I
• 1:21:01
  was hooked. Because what it did for me is it
• 1:21:03
  made me feel seen. It made me with the things that
• 1:21:06
  he shared feel like, OK, wow, I'm not alone in this.
• 1:21:10
  I'm not alone in feeling the fear of failure.
• 1:21:13
  I'm not alone in fearing success.
• 1:21:14
  I'm not alone in this feeling of kind of needing to be perfect.
• 1:21:17
  And I think it's when we can share and discuss and kind of
• 1:21:21
  have this witnessed by other people and bring people together
• 1:21:24
  around it that it kind of starts to make it dissipate and it
• 1:21:27
  starts to disappear. It starts to be something that
• 1:21:30
  doesn't have as much power to Taylor's point.
• 1:21:32
  So Taylor, we have a kind of like a ritual on every single
• 1:21:35
  show. I'll give you a minute or two to
• 1:21:37
  kind of think about what lands for you.
• 1:21:39
  And some people just channel and whatever comes through that the
• 1:21:42
  intuition hits and that's it. But we have, as I said earlier,
• 1:21:46
  so many amazing, high achieving, driven women who listen to this.
• 1:21:51
  And, you know, I'm curious if you have a nugget of, of wisdom
• 1:21:55
  or insight and it can be around the topic that we talked about
• 1:21:58
  today. And it also could be something
• 1:22:00
  totally unrelated that just kind of comes to your mind.
• 1:22:03
  But for the person who's listening to this, who feels
• 1:22:05
  like, OK, like this was so helpful for me.
• 1:22:07
  And she's going through a lot of things she's trying to navigate
• 1:22:10
  right now and big, big goals. A piece of advice you might have
• 1:22:14
  for her, It could be a quote that was shared with you.
• 1:22:16
  It could be a lesson you learned from a mentor.
• 1:22:19
  It could be a an aha moment that you had from a trying situation.
• 1:22:24
  And you're like, well, this shaped who I am.
• 1:22:27
  Is there something that you would want to pass along to her,
• 1:22:29
  whether it is as a person or professionally either or just
• 1:22:33
  something that if you could sit with her at a coffee shop that
• 1:22:36
  you would want her to know? Well, I would want to talk with
• 1:22:40
  her for hours. I would, I would want to chill
• 1:22:42
  with her. But what I will tell you is, and
• 1:22:45
  I'm going to keep it, I'm going to keep it simple for this one
• 1:22:47
  because I think this really, this really hits it.
• 1:22:50
  You just make the next right decision and you always arrive.
• 1:22:55
  So when you're feeling fear, when you're parallel, Oh my God,
• 1:22:57
  there's so many different take the next best right step, trust
• 1:23:02
  it and you will always arrive. So that's what I would say.
• 1:23:05
  And I buy her a coffee. And a cappuccino.
• 1:23:09
  Yes, exactly. I love it.
• 1:23:11
  I love it. OK, so Taylor, obviously you
• 1:23:13
  guys have heard me say I'm obsessed with this stuff.
• 1:23:15
  I highly recommend go binge. That will probably just be the
• 1:23:18
  dopamine hit that you needed today.
• 1:23:20
  But Taylor, if someone wants to get deeper connected with your
• 1:23:23
  content and basically this on steroids, if someone wants to
• 1:23:27
  kind of just get more exposure to all of this in your world,
• 1:23:29
  what's the best place for them to go and to dive into your
• 1:23:32
  stuff? So I would say the best place
• 1:23:35
  would be I'm on Tiktok and Instagram.
• 1:23:36
  That's where I post primarily. So my handle is Taylor Ryan
• 1:23:39
  Nardoni and check out my website as well, which is Taylor
• 1:23:42
  ryannardoni.com. It looks funky when you type it
• 1:23:44
  out because there's 2RS2NS in there with Taylor Ryan to Ryan
• 1:23:47
  Nardoni. But those three places, So
• 1:23:48
  website and then Instagram and Tiktok and yeah, feel free to
• 1:23:51
  shoot me a message. Let me know what you guys
• 1:23:52
  thought of the episode. Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:23:55
  I, as I always say, you guys like having a transformation is
• 1:23:58
  to be witnessed in it. And there's a difference between
• 1:24:00
  you can have these aha moments with you and your journal, which
• 1:24:02
  we spoke about you can have, but there's just something different
• 1:24:06
  when someone sees you in it, which is why community is huge,
• 1:24:09
  whether it's a membership community like Taylor, you have
• 1:24:11
  a membership as well. I do, yes.
• 1:24:14
  So I call it come as you are. So basically, regardless of
• 1:24:17
  where you are spiritually or faith, anything come as you are
• 1:24:20
  and kind of goes with one of my favorite quotes that I mentioned
• 1:24:22
  before. When you change the way you look
• 1:24:23
  at things, the things you look at change.
• 1:24:24
  And that's my goal in there. So we meet once a month.
• 1:24:27
  It's a beautiful time. Yeah.
• 1:24:28
  So like I, I really want to encourage you guys to like at a
• 1:24:31
  minimum, if you want to obviously get into a community
• 1:24:33
  of similar conversations to this or also just literally reaching
• 1:24:37
  out to Taylor. I hope that's OK that I.
• 1:24:38
  Absolutely. Do for myself like if there's
• 1:24:41
  something that lands here for you today, I always say like our
• 1:24:45
  guests are so excited to hear from you.
• 1:24:47
  Like our last guest that we had on was like, Kate, I'm so
• 1:24:50
  excited that your people reached out because it just when we go
• 1:24:53
  on podcast, I know Taylor can attest this because he has a
• 1:24:55
  podcast as well, which by the way, you can go dive into.
• 1:24:57
  I've listened to it. It's amazing with his podcast,
• 1:25:00
  same thing. You speak into this ether and
• 1:25:02
  you wonder like, does this land? Does this resonate with anybody?
• 1:25:05
  Does this feel like it kind of hits home for you and for no
• 1:25:08
  other reason other than to create connection.
• 1:25:10
  And so we always talk about network.
• 1:25:11
  We talk about connection of like minded individuals.
• 1:25:14
  And so we bring on people have incredible values that are
• 1:25:16
  similar to the values that you have.
• 1:25:18
  And so I really encourage you to reach out to Taylor, mention a
• 1:25:21
  quote that landed, maybe an action that you're going to to
• 1:25:23
  take a aha moment that you had. And by doing so, you're being
• 1:25:27
  seen in it, which ultimately makes that change even deeper on
• 1:25:30
  like a core soul level that will help you in growing your
• 1:25:33
  business. So all about to say, Taylor,
• 1:25:36
  thank you so much for today. Today was a master class.
• 1:25:38
  And I'm going to go back to. And consume it was so.
• 1:25:40
  Good it. Was so good.
• 1:25:41
  That was such an honor to be here.
• 1:25:43
  Thank you for having me today. I appreciate.
• 1:25:44
  It absolutely, absolutely all right to you guys.
• 1:25:47
  We will see you on the next episode.
• 1:25:49
  And, as always, stay ambitious.