Latest / Kvetch & Release / AM800 Thursday Roundtable

Transcript

AM800 Thursday Roundtable · Kvetch & Release

0:03
Well, good morning, and welcome to the Dan mc donald Show. Kyle
0:05
Horn are in for Damn A Donald one more day. I think Dan's actually
0:08
back in town now, but you got me one more day. He's back
0:12
on Monday. We got a long weekend and we got a fun roundtable.
0:15
Actually we're having too much fun to kick it off. I was just,
0:18
you know, let's just talk about Easter chocolate the whole hour, because we've
0:21
had fun talking about back before the show. And then I realized we have
0:25
John Litkey here and he doesn't celebrate Easter. I was like, well,
0:27
that's a terrible topic that I brought up, John, So I'm really sorry
0:30
about that. I appreciate the like singular shout out right at the outset of
0:35
things. That's great, But listen, Easter is fun. You get,
0:38
you get chocolate, you get discounted chocolate. There's like we were just discussing,
0:42
you know, ghoules or Jesus the Friendly Ghost, which is pretty funny.
0:46
Oh my god, you were the one who coined that excellent term.
0:48
I'm putting that on you so that I don't get the show back on that
0:51
one. But I know, I think it's gonna be a great topic.
0:54
Yeah, I look forward to again. I'm glad you're the only that I
0:58
had. Oh God, you're excited for John, as you can tell.
1:00
Phil and hosts one of the main voices to hear on a made hundred,
1:04
John Lecky with US Today, co host of course of Roast City Politics.
1:08
Hopefully Patty's voice is do well. I'm surprised you're not filling in for Patty
1:11
yet today. I hope her voices as well. I felt terrible for yesterday.
1:15
Yes, a week actually. Deputy Mayor of Amsberg Chris Gibb as well.
1:19
Welcome Chris. First time i've met you, so it's nice seeing studio.
1:23
Yes, very nice to meet you. Second time i've been here,
1:25
so I guess I didn't do too bad. Catch you back first one,
1:29
so they had me back or the well is pretty pickens. That's so I'll
1:33
take it either way. You talked to Will about that. You can talk
1:36
to Will after the show for that. And somebody we know well here,
1:38
Irene Moore Davis, President of the Essex County Black Historical Research Society. Welcome
1:44
back, Irene. How are you? Good morning? I'm great. How
1:47
are you? Yeah, we're doing well. I think right We're again somewhat
1:49
of a long weekend coming up for some of us, so let's get it
1:52
going here on a Thursday morning, a beautiful Thursday morning, as the city
1:56
is waiting for the Ministry to approve Windsor's vacant home tax program. Very interesting.
2:00
The City of Windsor is hoping to hear soon from the Ministry of Finance
2:05
on whether a proposed a proposal for a vacant home tax program meets the framework
2:09
set up by the government. So they have it already, they just got
2:13
to get the approval that go to from the province. The Ontario budget released
2:17
Tuesday includes a measure that will let municipalities impose a vacant home tax, which
2:23
the government says will increase housing supply. There are three towns or three cities
2:28
in the province already doing it. We got Toronto, Ottawa and Hamilton.
2:30
They have the authority right now to impose such a tax. The city's not
2:35
going to come after you. But if a neighbor or something like that files
2:38
a complaint, and I'm sure they do have some sort of a list,
2:42
they know where the complaints are coming in right now when it comes to that.
2:45
But they're not going to go after you. But if somebody files a
2:46
complaint, you better have you better have your story about you know, your
2:52
primary residents ready to go, because if you don't, and if you actually
2:54
lie, they're actually going to charge you a little bit more on that one.
2:58
But under Windsor's proposal program, unoccupied for more than one hundred and eighty
3:01
three days, that's a number rate there in any given year would be issued
3:06
a three percent levee on top of the regular property tax rate. There,
3:10
So your thoughts, So, Chris, I'll start off with you your apside
3:13
me here, your thoughts on this? Is it needed? Well? You
3:15
know, I don't know how much of a situation you have in the city
3:20
of vacant homes. I would think the market is taking care of this.
3:23
I know in Amersburg any empty homes that I see around town are all in
3:28
the process of being redeveloped into duplexus. We've got one in downtown Amersburg that's
3:34
gotta scheduled for a twelve unit condo. So is this really a problem.
3:39
I guess if you're sitting on it as a speculator and you're not moving to
3:46
get it occupied or get it redeveloped into something else. Then it's just one
3:51
more incentive to get going. But I think the market should be taken care
3:53
of that. I'll say this, when you drive around the city, I
3:55
don't see a ton but War two councilor Fabio Cassante. He's been really pushing
4:00
this out there on the West end. It's a big issue on the West
4:03
End and they've been kind of going after some of those ones. Of course,
4:05
we know about the bridge when it comes to Indian Road and how they
4:09
can't do anything with that, right. So, John, what's your thoughts
4:12
on this? You know, listen, this was upheld in the judicial system,
4:17
so it was obviously brought forward in good faith and a judge ruled upon
4:21
it. Is it necessary? Is it not necessary? You know, I'll
4:27
put that aside. Because it's been ruled on by the court. It exists.
4:30
We can't really have the conversation about it unless we want to have,
4:32
you know, successive counsels try and overrule it, and that's a conversation for
4:36
another day. What I do find interesting though, is the argument that was
4:40
brought forward by the group against it, which says that this will chase good
4:45
operators out of the business. I don't understand the merits of that argument.
4:50
If someone is renting something out because they want to do so, they see
4:55
it as a viable, you know, business interest, or whether it's altruistic
4:59
because they feel there is a need to provide more housing space than they do
5:02
it. You know, you're going to do it either by making a profit
5:06
or by taking a loss. I don't see why having a bit more of
5:12
a cost and some regulation is going to cost someone to be like, you
5:14
know what, I'm out and you know, quite frankly, if someone does
5:18
leave that space, so what so then someone else ends up buying a house
5:24
and living there, or someone else buys it and rents it out. And
5:27
there's the kind of want right like we're in a housing crisis, get somebody
5:30
in it. Yes, yeah, so you know, I don't I don't
5:31
have an issue with the situation. I don't have an issue with what that
5:34
the threat there is, especially as someone you know who's operated in the private
5:40
business sector and has had a business that was actually shut down arbitrarily by a
5:44
provincial government they regulated it illegal. So yeah, you know, I I
5:47
you want to get my sympathy, give me a better argument Okay, I
5:51
read what do you think here? I think what's really important to note is
5:55
that it is you know that that the houses have to or the homes have
5:58
to have been unoccupied for more than one hundred and eighty three days in any
6:00
given year. So it's not punitive if you're someone who is in possession of
6:05
a home and trying to get things together to get it renovated. This isn't
6:09
about you. This is about the people that are just chronic abusers and just
6:13
leave houses vacant, create issues for neighbors and so on. So I think
6:17
it's I think it's perfectly fair, and I hope that it is an incentive
6:21
for people to get going and get moving and get their vacant homes together so
6:28
that we can meet this housing crunch. Yeah, I like it, Like
6:30
if I had to, and I have somebody coming on to ten o'clock with
6:33
me, somebody very close to me, maybe somebody producing the show that lives
6:36
beside That lives beside a house that hasn't they've done it, they haven't done
6:41
anything to it for a very long time. And when I go to his
6:44
house and I see that house and that property beside him, I just feel
6:46
terrible for him because it's a disaster and to have to live beside that.
6:50
And obviously it's not going to help the uh his house too, if he's
6:54
looking to sell it and stuff like that, it's not going to help him
6:57
out there when it comes to the cost if he's looking to sell. I
7:00
couldn't imagine living beside a property like that where you know, I'll let will
7:02
talk about it at ten o'clock, but it's the property beside me was a
7:05
disaster. I just could not imagine living beside that. Well, I I
7:10
would say, if you've got to, if you've got a situation like that,
7:12
where it's a chronic vacant house, there's there's no action, there's no
7:15
end in sight, then for all you know, go for it. I
7:18
think the city should charge extra. You're you're you're bringing down everybody else's property
7:23
value. You're inconveniencing everyone else in the neighborhood. Maybe a three percent hike
7:28
in your tax would get you off the pot and get some some action.
7:31
And and like you say, we we need housing. It's it's a crisis
7:35
that's just getting worse. So yeah, if you're sitting on it, get
7:40
get sell it to someone who can redevelop it or fill it up. And
7:44
again, one thing I like is they're not coming after you. It's got
7:46
to be file driven, right, Somebody's got to put in that complaint,
7:48
and I think that's the way to go about it. John. I know
7:50
you brought in the course in this you talked about the legal system before we
7:54
go to break, but I really would just like your real, honest opinion
7:57
on this one, John, I just like you know. I know you
8:00
kind of hid behind the courts there, but I know you got a strong
8:03
opinion on it. And it's a radio program. You get how this goes.
8:07
It's not fair. I think it's I did so well skirting around it.
8:11
You agreed to come on Warren County be Warren. Just honest opinion is
8:16
you're never hired to let us know what you never hide to know when you
8:20
when you let us know what you think. So what I think I about
8:22
it. See here's the problem, Okay, Windsor has been faced with a
8:26
problem for a long time. Artificially low real estate which allowed for in many
8:31
cases on scrupulous landlords, many cases out of town landlords, to buy up
8:35
multiple properties. Say on them, take advantage of you know, situations if
8:41
they are commercial or whatnot, using tax to their advantages. I mean,
8:45
Chris, we could talk about how that comes into play, but you know,
8:46
putting all of that aside, we're in a very different situation. I
8:50
think we're also in a different situation than this was probably brought forward also that
8:54
you brought up, Chris. I mean, listen, I don't know of
8:56
many vacant rental units that exist anymore. What I do see is a lot
9:01
of inflated rental units. I just went to go look actually at a unit
9:07
at a place that I used to be in before that was nine twenty five
9:09
and twenty nineteen and is now thirteen hundred, and the unit is three hundred
9:13
square feet smaller than the one that I was looking at, And it's just
9:16
like I now, shrink flation would apply to rental. I actually felt like
9:22
it was a funhouse, and I was like, am I twenty percent bigger
9:24
than I should be? Or is this place just like a little bit too
9:28
small? But all this to say, listen, just rent the places out.
9:31
People need places to live. You can make money off of people's housing
9:37
without being I'll be scrupulous a pest. So just you don't, don't be
9:43
a pest, make money, allow for people to live, and then we
9:46
can all end up living in a society that's pretty great. But right now,
9:50
you know, things suck. Yeah, there is that that's uplifting on
9:54
a you asked for it. Well, the issue is, I mean some
9:58
people just they're lazy out there. They're not doing anything with the property,
10:01
right, Yes, laziness And yeah it's nice to say, hey, go
10:03
out there and rent it and go make some money and do something. But
10:05
a lot of people are just sitting on that property. And you know,
10:09
we're bringing will at the at the beginning of the show here, and then
10:11
you have places like his neighbors where it's just a complete disaster. That's why
10:16
we have to file complaints to talk about this. We'll keep it going here,
10:20
gotta take that first break. Deputy Mirror of Amersburg Chris Gibb with us.
10:22
Ireen Moore Davis, president of the Essex County Black Historical Research Society,
10:26
with us, and you know him, his voice all over here on Amit
10:30
Hunter really all over the place when it comes to social media windsor it's Amate
10:35
Hunter. Co host Roe City Politics John Litkey is with us as well.
10:39
Coming up next we'll talk a little bit more about that renting subject. We'll
10:43
get John's opinion on that as well, with rentals in this city. Looking
10:48
forward to that. It's Kyle Hendry for Dan McDonald on the dam McDonald show.
10:52
Good morning, Welcome back to the dam McDonald Show. Kyle Hunter and
10:54
for Dan McDonald, one last day with me for our Thursday roundtable. Deputy
10:58
Mayor of Amersburg, Chris Gibb I Read Moore Davis, President of the Essex
11:01
County Black Historical Research Society, and the fill and host for a made hundred
11:05
co hosts of Rose Silly Politics. You can hear them all over the place
11:09
around town. You're on Newstalk ten ten I think two as well, right
11:11
John, So he's just covered all over Bell Media. John Litkey is with
11:16
us. Let's move over to the residential rental License by law here, as
11:22
the Ontario Superior Court has ruled against a group of landlords who challenged the City
11:26
of Windsor's residential rental licensing by law and the city confirms enforcement of the program
11:31
will once again resume now. The case was brought forward by the Windsor Housing
11:35
Providers Inc. A group representing hundreds of area landlords who took to the city
11:41
or who took the city two court over the by law, arguing it was
11:45
passed in bad faith. Now, as part of the program, a residential
11:48
rental license is required for each year for each rental unit in words one and
11:52
two, basically South Windsor and out there on the west Side, a cost
11:54
of four hundred and sixty six bucks for the first year, and then it
11:58
goes to two U seventy five for the annual renewals. Now the city is
12:01
operating the program in full cost recovery, so there's no additional cost for enforcement
12:07
levied upon the existing tax base. Boris Suzanski the president of Windsor Housing Providers,
12:13
and he's also a landlord out there on the west End. Now he's
12:16
led the charge against the by law and he argues it will have a negative
12:20
impact on the rental market, further raising rents and adding to the housing crisis.
12:24
This is where War II concert Fabrilo Cassante comes back in. He's all
12:28
over the news today. He started the push for the by law when he
12:31
took off his back in twenty eighteen. Disagrees he says, I'm delighted to
12:35
see, you know, the city being able to defend itself and us resuming
12:41
that the residential rental license by law is resuming so that we can continue inspecting
12:46
properties, ensuring that units are up to code, and cracking down on slum
12:50
lords. All we're doing is establishing a standard that adheres to the existing laws
12:56
and ensuring that we're done, that we're doing inspecsion, that we're doing expections.
13:03
Just right here. I want to make sure too be Causante said that
13:05
hundreds of homes inspected, only thirty eight percent work in compliance with the code.
13:09
That's my issue right there. If you don't want this done, we'll
13:13
get in compliance with the code and then we don't have to worry about it.
13:16
When you only got thirty eight percent, we have an issue. And
13:18
that's why I'm with DeSante on this one. I mean, let's start off
13:20
with you your thoughts on this well, I mean particularly in those words,
13:26
but elsewhere in the city too. We do have some real issues with landlords,
13:31
you know, really taking advantage of folks and not holding up the standard,
13:35
not making sure that they're safe housing. And I think that you know,
13:39
it's unfortunate that this has to come into place. But I think,
13:43
you know, the fact that there is a pilot study is an opportunity for
13:46
all of us to learn from it and to see what needs to be tweaked
13:50
so that it is fair and reasonable for everyone. But I think that the
13:54
best way for folks to make sure that this doesn't become, you know,
13:58
a major issue is to comply, you know, and make sure that the
14:03
housing you're providing is safe. I actually don't think that the cost is that
14:07
alarming. You know, the cost per unit does not sound that alarming to
14:11
me, considering some of the rates that people are charging for housing in this
14:16
community to affect the actual market, I think you're right right to me,
14:20
those prices don't affect the actual markets. Now. I think that, you
14:24
know, people, I think people like to do whatever they're going to do.
14:28
I'm sure that there are some very very reputable, very conscientious landlords out
14:33
there. My husband and I used to be landlords actually years ago. But
14:35
I think that, you know, unfortunately, some bad apples do you spoil
14:39
the bunch, and we have to, you know, make sure that we're
14:43
taking care of all of our community members and ensuring that they have a safe
14:48
place to live. So if this is what we have to do, then
14:50
that's what we have to do. It's the same with the vacant home tax
14:52
program. You know, if you took care of your property, we won't
14:54
have to worry about this. Same with this one right here, John,
14:58
feel free to go out it on this one, buddy, listen. I
15:00
mean, bad actors are always the reason why legislation comes into effect. And
15:03
then we all get you know, tainted by that one singular brush and we
15:07
have to abide by it, you know, a fear of penalty. I
15:11
think Kyrene just hit the nail on the head and it's not fair because it
15:16
was my point. And how Dario go out take it away before I get
15:18
to say it. But if we're talking about two hundred and seventy five dollars
15:22
a year per unit, yeah, it's twenty two bucks, twenty three bucks
15:26
a month, yeah divided. I don't think there's anyone who's looking at their
15:30
rent that's going up as much as it does, or looking at what the
15:33
cost of rent is and going, God, I'm gonna go and vote against
15:37
costante. This twenty three bucks a month is too much, Like I just
15:43
I don't. I don't buy it. Everything is way too much money.
15:46
Twenty three bucks to know that I'm gonna have a place that's inspected, safe,
15:52
clean, regulated to a degree that's not what thirty three percent or whatever
15:58
you said that like the actual compliance rate thirty eight Like okay, Like fine
16:03
by me. Now, listen, I'm in a you know, a better
16:06
state than some and I'm able to absorb that. So I understand that.
16:08
You know, twenty three bucks is still twenty three bucks a month to seventy
16:11
five a year, but you know it's not a huge amount when you're looking
16:15
at the actual cost. Chris, what are your thoughts on this? Well,
16:18
it's unfortunate that it's come to this, but you know, the people
16:22
who who are renting houses that are or places that are at risk, are
16:27
probably more in a vulnerable state than others, So they do they deserve at
16:33
least a safe place to live. We can't let people live somewhere that's unsafe.
16:38
That's as a society, I think we can all agree. You know,
16:44
families and children need safe places to live. It's going to add to
16:48
the cost of people's rent, and you know, twenty three dollars a month,
16:51
maybe a lot to some and not to others. So that's unfortunate,
16:55
but that's the price of safety. We wouldn't you know, you can't drive
16:57
a car around unsafe, you can't have a commercial building that's unsafe. People
17:02
should have safe homes to live in. I agree with that absolutely. All
17:04
righty for the break here, just something that has popped up. I know
17:07
when Patty talked about it yesterday. I'm morning driving now myself. A lot
17:11
of people have a problem with slum lords and Castante using or saying slum lords
17:17
in those quotes. Christians politician here, what are your thoughts? Well,
17:21
I mean that's that's the term that's accepted. That's that's what we talk about.
17:25
You know, we we there's older houses, there's there's houses that might
17:30
be not as well kept as others. But you know, a slum lord
17:33
when you see it, mm hmm. And and you have no problem with
17:36
Castanti using that. I you know, I don't know if I would use
17:40
it, but I'm not gonna say I have a problem with him using it.
17:41
That's uh. You know, he's got to get his message out and
17:44
sometimes you got to rattle people's cages. Johnny, you know I'm finishing it
17:47
off with you on this one. He obviously wasn't using it to refer to
17:51
all landlords in general. And if you're someone who's taking offense to it,
17:53
I think that that is more of a flection on what you think of yourself
17:56
than on what he is saying about others. That is John. You can
18:00
hear him on AM hundred. That's why I finished off with him. How
18:03
to feel he was gonna let you know what he thought with me for the
18:06
roundtable here. Deputy Mirror Amersburg Chris gibb I ren More Davis, President of
18:10
the Essas County Black Historical Research Society and Philin Hosts. You just heard him
18:14
here on Amid Hunter, co host of roy Rose City Politics, and you
18:18
can hear him on News Talk ten ten. Was it Tuesday Night sewn TESA
18:21
nights Tuesday, sometimes Tuesday, sometimes Wednesday's Jean Lecky. We'll take the news
18:27
break, We'll come back here. It's Kyle Howner for Dan McDonald on the
18:30
dam McDonald show. Good morning, and welcome back to the Dan McDonald Show.
18:33
Kyle Howner in for Dan McDonald today. Deputy Mirror of Amitsburg Chris Gibb
18:37
with us for a roundtable. I rein More Davis, president of the Essens
18:41
County Black Historical Research Society, with us and Philin hosts here on Amid Hunter
18:45
co hosts of Rose City Politics. John Leckey with us. Okay, we'll
18:48
get away from the city just on this one because I've never had to do
18:52
this, but I definitely want to bring it up with you guys where a
18:55
new report says that more restaurants could charge non refundable, non refundable deposits,
19:00
possibly up to one hundred dollars when you make a reservation. The idea is
19:06
that restaurants lose money when people know show and we're seeing that a lot.
19:11
I know a lot of you know, people that own restaurants in this city,
19:15
and they're saying it really is a big issue. That's why I wanted
19:17
to bring it up. So just your thoughts on it. First of all,
19:19
John, let's start off with you on this one. Making a reservation,
19:22
Like we're going out tonight. My Kathy asked if we go out for
19:25
dinner tonight. So I'm gonna go out for dinner tonight. Make the reservation.
19:27
You know, maybe we're just like, ah, let's just stay home,
19:30
have a bunch of wine at home, and we can sleep into Moorrow.
19:33
Right, it's good Friday, we can sleep in tomorrow. And so
19:34
we just leave it. And then, of course, you know, they
19:37
nobody shows up for that table, they lose money on that. Should I
19:41
be forced to actually put down a deposit, a non refundable deposit of let's
19:45
say, one hundred dollars to go to the restaurant that I'm going at?
19:48
Are you okay with that? John? If you did that? How dare
19:49
you? How dare you? We got out of control of the wine?
19:53
How dare you? You should have been at the restaurant drinking that wine at
19:56
the bar. It's a lot cheaper at home. Yeah, well, how
20:00
dare you? No? I mean, listen, I'm gonna have a hard
20:03
time here, like going after this one. It's a private business. Let
20:06
me tell you. When Trudeau Trudeau came to town last week, I was
20:08
not a dutiful reporter in that I was aware he was coming here. I
20:11
found out like hours before pretty well, and I was able to you know,
20:15
I got added to the media list. I was able to go to
20:18
it. But the puddy is I had a dentist appointment that day. Yeah,
20:21
and I had to call my dentist and go, ah, the Prime
20:23
Minister's here, I'm not coming to the appointment. Please don't charge me seventy
20:26
five bucks for not showing up Like this is standard practice outside of restaurants,
20:32
restaurants, any business has you know, I think you know it has the
20:34
right to do this. Do we like it, do we not like it?
20:37
That's up to you as a consumer. You don't have to go to
20:38
the place. You also don't have to be you know, how dare you
20:42
rude like you and Kathy in this hypothetical situation, Kyle, could happen where
20:47
the wine gets you know, the wine flows and you have fun and you
20:49
don't go out. You know, let the business do what they want,
20:53
and the market will dictate whether or not. It's a policy that can continue
20:56
or not continue. So yeah, you know, I don't care. Okay,
21:00
it doesn't care, all right, Christy, you care? I do
21:03
care. You know, if this is anything that inconveniences me, there should
21:07
be a penalty to it. Yeah. So you know, if our restaurant
21:11
owners are working hard, they're trying to schedule, they're trying to get as
21:15
many people in and out as possible. You make a reservation and you don't
21:18
show up, that's your problem. There should be a penalty, you know.
21:22
I if it's applied to my bill, I have no problem paying it
21:27
because I'm going to show up. If I'm planning to company, I'm company
21:30
to get that statement out of Yeah, these people who make a reservation,
21:33
then I can't go at the time I want. No, there should be
21:37
there should be definite penalties for that. And you know a lot of these
21:41
restaurants they're just trying to make it right now, right with everything that they've
21:42
gone through. I read your thoughts on this well. I mean, I've
21:45
experienced this before in Detroit with reservations. I'm very accustomed. If you're going
21:48
to a you know, a premium kind of venue, you've actually yeah,
21:52
you've actually experienced this, right, Yes, you give them your credit card
21:56
number and they charge it and they wait for you to come at your point
21:59
of time, and that deposit comes off the bill obviously, like it's not
22:03
something that you're not charged it on top of your bill, is what I'm
22:07
saying. But I think it's necessary now. A lot of restaurants are struggling
22:12
just the costs involved in staffing and inventory and all of the things that they
22:18
have to contend with. They really haven't many of them rebounded from the pandemic,
22:22
and we need to be as supportive as possible. I think that we
22:25
have to recognize that many are really just scraping by a lot, are on
22:30
the verge of closing, and you know, they don't like to forecast that
22:33
or put it out there, but we know that's a fact and many are
22:37
really struggling. So anything that we can do as the community members to support
22:41
our restaurants and these wonderful things that help make it such a vibrant community in
22:47
a great place to be, I think we should be open to that.
22:48
And there are very irresponsible people who do cost a lot. They cost a
22:53
lot to these restaurant owners and to the staff and you know, lost tips
22:57
and all of that. You know, it's really the responsible thing to call
23:02
and make a cancelation in an appropriate time frame. It's hard. Emergencies happen,
23:07
obviously, but I think generally speaking, this is this is something that
23:11
we've seen in other cities, and it's going to be the case here and
23:15
we'll just have to get used to it. Yeah, John, go ahead,
23:18
I mean listen. I was speaking with Adriano Totally from winsor Eats a
23:21
couple of days ago here on the station about how, quite frankly, the
23:23
sector, the tourism sector hasn't recovered to pre pandemic levels yet. In Ontario
23:30
as a whole, we're seeing increased costs for the hospitality sector because food costs
23:37
are up, gas costs are up, every the interest rates are up.
23:41
Everything is up, and it's tough. So when you know, I say
23:45
like, look, I don't care, it's not that I'm being blase towards
23:48
the business. I'm saying like I don't care because the business is going to
23:51
do what the business has to do and the market's going to do how they
23:53
react. I think that like no offense to you, Like this is one
23:56
of those conversations where it's just like we can sit here and opine on it,
24:02
but like a business will do what business has to do, and a
24:04
consumer is going to do what the consumer has to do. And I think
24:07
that my view actually aligns very much with both what Irene and Chris you're saying
24:11
here, like everyone needs to feel met at the moment with what they're expecting,
24:18
and that means that the consumer needs to be conveniently feel that it's been
24:22
convenient, have good quality, good cost, and the restaurant needs the business
24:26
needs to be able to go. I need to feel like I've got a
24:30
consistent customer base that I can extract enough capital from to pay my costs.
24:36
And that middle ground is usually always found a lot of texts coming in about
24:41
it, though, like this one right here. How do you charge for
24:44
service not rendered? Well, you're making a reservation. You are telling that
24:52
business owner service. I'm coming and I'm taking up that spot that you could
24:56
flip to someone else. I've I've got two daughters who who were both the
25:00
you know, restaurant servers. And it's almost a little bit art and a
25:06
little bit science how how they balanced the tables coming in and out, so
25:11
if you muck up the system, then there should be a penalty. And
25:15
the service was rendered as well, like they did the thing they they secured
25:21
you, the seat, you have, the table, it's there for you.
25:22
They couldn't get someone else in it, so service was rendered And I
25:26
don't have an issue with that. Sorry, go ahead, No, I
25:29
was just going to say, we're perfectly accustomed to this when it comes to
25:30
flights, hotels, rental cars, all kinds of there you go, it's
25:34
not that big a deal. Everybody. Service has not been rendered to me
25:37
by Hilton yet for what's happening later this weekend. I mean, okay,
25:41
and yet I paid something. See that's my fault too. So we thought.
25:48
So we got a vacation plan for out west, and I was told
25:53
by somebody that's very close to me, now we're going to start off our
25:56
trip in Edmonton on May eighth, and so I was like, okay,
26:00
no problem at all. I'll take care of the hotel out there in Edmonton,
26:03
booked it. Then then came back a couple of days later. Oh,
26:07
by the way, now we're starting out in Vancouver and we're not We're
26:08
not even going to Edmonton. I was like, but but I but I
26:11
got a hotel in Edmonton. Yeah, well things have changed. I was
26:15
like, She's like, you can get that money back though, right,
26:18
I was like, no, I can't. Yeah, that was like in
26:19
the fine print where I actually can't get the money back, right. So
26:22
that's kind of where I'm at, where I actually have been charged for the
26:26
whole hotel. Now I'm not even going to be there. So if you're
26:29
in Edmonton on May twenty eighth, I have a free hotel for you or
26:33
we you know, we can be best offer best offer on that hotel because
26:37
now you know it's my fault. We're not showing up to that hotel room.
26:41
You know they have a I guess probably somebody could have booked it or
26:44
whatever. But either way, I'm out the probably seventy dollars that I spent
26:48
on that hotel room because we're not going there. I think that's how it
26:51
works with a lot of these internet based booking service. I got golf courses
26:55
here, people texting about golf courses as well, and like you mentioned,
26:57
Irene rental cars. So I guess that's it. Yeah, that somebody has
27:02
put aside their their asset for you to use. If you're not going to
27:07
show up, then then you need to reimburse them for their for their lost
27:11
revenue. Yeah. Yeah. Also, if you need a hotel room in
27:14
Edmonton on March or May twenty eighth, please you can text eight hundred let
27:18
me know and I can help you out with that. Wrapping up here,
27:22
we'll take the final break and then we'll just talk about Easter. I'll have
27:23
some fun talk about some chocolate. Sorry, John, I'm really sorry about
27:26
this, but no, no, you know your your favorite chocolate for a
27:30
long weekend. Let's go. Let's come with that. Deputy Mayor of Annsberg,
27:33
Chris give with us, I Read Moore Davis, President of the Essex
27:37
County Black Historical Research Society and fill in a host here on AM eight hunterd
27:41
Coast of Rose Cily Politics, John Lecky aswell. Take the fun break.
27:44
We'll come back with Skyle Horner and for Dan McDonald on the dam McDonald show.
27:48
Since he came in a word, Good morning and welcome back to the
27:51
dam McDonald show. Kyle Horner in for Dan one more time. He's back
27:53
in the city. You'll be back Monday. You've almost had enough for me.
27:56
I get it, he's coming back. Depty Mayor of for Chris Gibb
28:00
with me, I ring More Davis, President of the Essex County Black Historical
28:03
Research Society, with us here for the round table and filling a host on
28:06
an eight hundred cos of Rose City politics, John Letkey, and we'll wrap
28:11
up by for John just talking about long weekend chocolate that he's going to be
28:14
eating for the rest of us. It is the Eastern weekend and kicking off
28:18
with Good Friday tomorrow, and I've had a lot of chocolate this past week.
28:22
Balkbarn I guess had a deal. It's funny because a lot of people
28:26
have texted because I've been using this as my promo. We're gonna talk a
28:29
little bit about it on my show Shameless Plug Live Local on Saturday morning.
28:33
And when the we started playing the promo for it, I was talking about
28:36
Aggies and They're like, I. I was getting messages last night. Hey
28:38
Kyle, By the way, do you know Bulkburn had a whole sale on
28:41
Eggi's this past week. I was like, yes, I do, because
28:44
my wife went there and got a whole bag and for dinner last night,
28:47
basically all I had was red wine and Eggies. It's so good. I
28:51
didn't realize I was in love with Aggies this much like I thought Cadbury egg
28:53
was my go to. It's I absolutely love it. Sorry, sorry,
28:57
we got to tie this back. Which restaurant did you skip on your reservation
29:03
tonight? Okay, yeah, we can only afford you know, sometimes like
29:07
one restaurant, you know, every couple of weeks. So that's tonight.
29:11
Last night, Yeah, I just had fish. I had fish when I
29:14
got hold if you wanted the update on my food, and then I had
29:17
Eggi's and wine for dinner. It was awesome, to be honest with you.
29:18
I drifted away and I was ready to go this morning. But let's
29:22
just talk about some chocolate here as we wrap up and have a little fun
29:25
I read I'll start with you. What is your go to here for the
29:27
long weekend. It's so funny because I'm really not that into chocolate anymore.
29:30
I used to be. I'm not, but you know, when I was
29:33
growing up, it was those Reesa's eggs for sure. And when I when
29:37
I say growing up, but I mean like until the age of forty,
29:40
it was definitely, I hope that's so growing up quite frankly, definitely the
29:45
Races eggs because they taste just like Reese's everything, and that's just the best
29:49
thing in the world, so good. I don't know why, So for
29:52
me, I put them in the fridge. If I have a racist pieces,
29:55
I put in the fridge to mean, that's the way to go,
29:56
no matter what though. If it's the egg. I don't know, the
29:59
Christmas tree, what other pumpkins at Halloween. I find those ones just taste
30:04
the best. I don't know why, but to me, it tastes better
30:07
than the actual chocolate bar, which is not a chocolate bar. At that
30:10
point, I John, what do you got for me on the long weekend?
30:14
Here? Okay, listen, Easter chocolate's great. Okay, I will
30:17
be clear. So mini eggs are great, Cadbury cream eggs are great,
30:22
although like sickly sweet. I feel like they weren't as sweet when I was
30:25
younger, and now they've like like they're they're they think they're they're smaller,
30:29
but I think they're putting cracking. They're putting crack into it, and they've
30:32
made them smaller. So it's it's a shrink flation addiction situation that's going on
30:37
here. But you know, Jews, we we do something as well as
30:41
you know it sounds like crack quite frankly. We take our matza, you
30:42
know, unleavened bread. It's like crackers. Yeah, and we we melt
30:47
chocolate chips mixed with a bit of butter salted. You want to have a
30:51
little bit of that salt you can put in some kosher salt as well as
30:53
sea salt, and then you you drizzle that all over the matza, the
30:59
unleavened bread, the crackers themselves, and you just get this like chocolate cracker
31:03
type thing that like, I think we just convince ourselves that it's really I
31:07
think that we actually do that often at some of our Jewish holidays. Does
31:11
your mom do that? Oh yeah, you can do that for me.
31:14
I will, I will, I'll bring some in for you. Yeah,
31:15
bring some in for you. It's great. I mean again, you have
31:18
to like make do with not having lemon bread, right, so you can't
31:22
have cake. So the chocolate's doing a heck of a lot of work in
31:26
this situation. That's what you want it? Yeah, well yeah, it's
31:30
it's raising our spirits unlike the bread. Yeah, much needed, much needed,
31:36
right now? Do it? Chris? Go ahead? After that?
31:41
Well, you know weekend, my go to is the is just the chocolate
31:45
bunny. Now it's like like lindor really good chocolate or just your dollars to
31:49
chocolate, you know what. I like, I'm not a connoisseur. The
31:56
cheaper the chocolate, the better it was. It was funny my wife,
32:00
and she might be listening right now. I don't know. But when just
32:04
earlier this week, there was I came home and there was a cheap chocolate
32:07
bunny sitting on the island in the kitchen, and then I thought, okay,
32:12
I'm getting on that after a little while. Yeah. And then I
32:15
came back and the bunny was gone, And I said to her, where
32:17
did that chocolate bunny go? And she says, well, I put it
32:21
in the cupboard for later, and I was like later, no, no,
32:24
I want my half now. Yeah. Yeah, I'm a you know,
32:29
if it's a cheap chocolate bunny, I really like expensive one. I
32:31
just it's it's the time of the season. Even though I'm thirty eight,
32:37
my mom will still have Easter treats for us over the weekend. And I
32:38
asked her. I know, I love her, and I asked her for
32:42
the cheap bunnies. I think it's the best chocolate. To be honest with
32:45
you. So I know a lot of people disagree and say, now I
32:46
got out my lendor something from Switzerland. But to me, bring on the
32:51
cheap button. Now I'm thinking of chocolate over matza. That might be uh.
32:55
If you're that you know. I love your mom. Please let her,
33:00
Please let her know I'd read Mom, you're listening. You've got some
33:02
work, you gotta do them. Sorry, Yeah, I always see it.
33:05
I know your mom's address. I always run into wrap the note for
33:09
LLS. Just next time we're there, I'm just gonna tell her here's some
33:12
chocolate. Please please hook me up before we get into the unplugged segment here
33:15
and wrap up. I have to read this text here, Kyle, let's
33:20
get Irene to do the AM news every day. I love her voice.
33:22
I'm so tired of listening to these dorky men voices every day. It's great.
33:28
I just had to put that text out there before we get into the
33:30
unpluged I did not write that on my phone while we were sitting there.
33:32
Right away. It was not me tired of those dorky voices AKA Kyle and
33:37
John. That's what they're scaring there. Yeah, yeah, I agree with
33:40
that person. Absolutely. Let's do unplugged and let's start off with that great
33:45
voice, Irene. What do you got for us here? Well, the
33:47
Windsor Jane's Walk Festival is coming up. It is happening April twenty sixth to
33:52
April twenty eighth in the county and May third to fifth in Windsor Intokemsie.
33:57
It's just such a great opportunity to walk roundsom the neighborhoods, learn about them
34:01
from a historical or architectural point of view, or learn about the restaurants or
34:07
nature or whatever with content experts. And it's free. So just go to
34:12
Windsorjanswalk dot Ca. You'll see the full list of all the citizen led walks
34:15
of neighborhoods happening all around Windsor in Essex County those two weekends. I'll be
34:21
leading three of them, and it's going to be lots of fun. Okay.
34:23
I Winsorita on that on that list as well this year, so we'll
34:27
have to have them on Live and Local. I loved kicking it off last
34:29
year on Live and Local. John, you're everywhere around the city. What
34:31
do you got for us here? Tune into Rose City Politics We broadcast on
34:37
the weekends. I've got a new podcast myself called Cavetch with John Lidkey and
34:45
yeah, you know, just get out and enjoy the community. There's so
34:47
much that's going on. You guys gonna be talking about the best of Easter
34:50
chocolates. There on Politics Deep right off the bat, Deep Dives, multi
34:53
hours. You're gonna love it, Chris, What do you got for us
34:57
here? Well, there's something exciting going on in Amisburg on April the seventh.
35:02
The town is looking to have local artists, musicians, singers, anyone
35:09
who's got a musical act that they want to get out there. The town's
35:15
looking for acts to book for our open air weekends throughout the summer. So
35:21
on April to seventh, from three till eight pm, we want all of
35:27
the local musicians to come out to Music Land in Amisburg, fifty nine Richmond
35:30
Street, and the town will be auditioning for performers throughout our open air weekends,
35:37
and then a lot of our local restaurant tours will be there to see
35:40
acts that they can book. So if you want more information, go to
35:45
the town's website Amersburg dot Ca, or you can call five to one nine
35:50
seven three zero thirteen oh nine okay, perfect, Yeah, make sure you
35:53
do that last thing before I let you go. Here. We have a
35:57
whole bunch of text now saying they agree with that text about Irene. So
36:00
I you want to take it till you can take it till noon if you
36:02
want. Feel free. Half the city is saying yes, please, no
36:09
nor sorry, not today, sorry everybody. For the next two hours you
36:14
got my dorky voice and then you can move on with us. That was
36:17
a fun roundtable. Thank you so much. Deputy Mayra of Amasburg, Chris
36:21
Gabe, Ireen Moore Davis, President of the Essas County Black Historical Research Society
36:24
and fill in host here on amid hundred Coast of Row City Politics. John
36:29
Letkey to all of you, thank you so much for joining me today.
36:30
Well, thank you for having me. It's it's a lot of fun.
36:32
Be fun. Absolutely enjoy that chocolate over the weekend here. Coming up next
36:37
we will kick off the ten am hour talking about the vacant home tax program.
36:42
Your thoughts on it. Is it needed in this city. We'll do
36:45
it next here on the dam McDonald sho. Kyle Horner in for dam McDonald
36:46
on amid hundred