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Serie A Matchday 24 Recap & Champions League Preview - Ep_ 213 · The Calcio Guys

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Yeah, it was a weekend in which a football team became champion of their
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league. And no, I'm not talking about the Kansas City Chiefs. Pretty
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much talk about Inter. It's all but wrapped up. Hopefully I could,
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I could jinx it as I talked about last week with Nema. Here on
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the couch of guys Johnny, Agiano, Nicholas. How you guys doing.
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Not as busy as Johnny, but uh but I doing good. A little
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mentally tired by whatever it's life, We'll get through it. We come here
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to joke around, forget about that stuff, support each other like real kings
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and have fun and throwing a bit of trash talk between our teams. But
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I mean Inter Enter is Inter that? Well, that's how we got to
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start the show. They come out against you, Aroma, Johnny over the
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weekend, I think it was what was it on Saturday? Come from behind
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win four to two, seven points on top now in the city, mainly
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thanks to you have a dropping points today against Udinesa. A frustrating game.
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Just terrible month for Juve after a pretty pretty darn good January, especially after
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the loss last week against Inter coupled with this loss against I think back a
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couple of weeks ago, the dry against simply Inter's just running away with it
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now, seven points up with still a geem in Handguy. Uh, and
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we're gonna talk about Champions League coming up. But at this point, I
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mean you're gonna you know, Enter, it's not in the bag. There's
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still a lot of soccer left to be played. Fifteen games left for Inter,
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fourteen games left for for everyone else below them. But you know,
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considering Champions Champions League is coming up, considering Enter does play Athletical next week,
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Like, do you think Inter kind of focuses a bit on Champions League
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now and kind of hits cruise control in the city a while maintaining a good
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pace. It's tough. It's tough to say. I think I think they
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you know, last season, they did what they did. Uh, they
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made it all the way to the final. We we've said up before,
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people know, Uh, you know, they've just added more depth right this
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season, and they've they've they've got a they've got an Inter b that is
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probably capable of going to to with with a majority of the teams in the
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city. So I think that's been on their side. They've got in all
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of the things right, They've had luck on their side. You know,
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they've gone through certain moments in this season where you know, was maybe a
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bit more difficult. I still don't think it's been as difficult as people are
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making the scene. But regardless, they've they've done their business. You know
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what by a by a manager that I've sat on this show multiple times that
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I'm not a huge fan of in in some Moni and Zagi, but you
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know what, he's he's proven, he's proven the daughter's wrong, myself wrong.
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So far he's done well, so you can't really say too much and
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he's he's definitely just evolved. I think as a manager. We spoke obviously
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last week with Nima and in depth with with with the in there, But
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I don't know if they're going to focus more on on one or the other.
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I think they've had their goal in mind in Seriah and obviously in Europe
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they want to continue to do well, So I think I think it's not
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really a fact of they're going to put more emphasis on one or the other.
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I think they're gonna be able to handle both of them, both competitions,
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and I think it's just a matter of time to see you know,
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where they fall in terms of SADIA, in terms of the STADIA results,
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in terms of how far they get along with with the Champions League. So
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I think it's a waiting game. But again they're not. They they could
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still slip up. I mean, like Nix said, the guys, there
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is still time. You know, the game in hand is is what obviously
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people are gonna circle in terms of you know, do they pick up those
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points? Uh you know that that becomes ten points above U of A eleven
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above above Melane if they get those points right, So it's a I think
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it's still wait a wait and see. But yeah, they're definitely We've said
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it multiple times. Guys, it's no secret they're they're they're on top for
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a reason, and it's it's a matter of the teams below them capitalizing on
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on if the big if inter slips up. So, but we spoke about
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it last week. It would be catastrophic if if they were to lose the
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school, because I think it's it's in their hands. It's it's about them
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crossing crossing the finish line. But but yeah, maybe maybe the tortoises in
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or meal On maybe get across before the hair, but it seems a bit
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unlikely going going forward. It's completely up into the hands of winter. Like
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if yeah, something like perfectly says something catastrophic, if there's like an injury
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above that hits the team or uh, I don't know, like just things
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just fall apart at the seams, which is very unlikely because it's a group
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that's been together for a good while. Now they add they added like marcust
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around this year. They added some very good depth to the team. Next
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year they're getting even better. They're adding the listen to the midfield, and
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it's it's a team that has been slowly building up to becoming what they are
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today and they want to maintain that. Obviously, it remains to be seen
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about the financial situation how they're gonna pull this off. So for them,
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they need to get those deep runs in Champions League and they need to win
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this squdetto to uh you know, to like actually like get some financial help
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for that. It it's it's it's feasible. I mean, they've been into
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the finals last year. Can they make it to the finals again? I
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don't think. I don't see them hitting finals just because of the push that
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they're doing I think maybe semis where they kind of like Peter out a bit,
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but like or pet Her out whatever, Peter petered out a bit.
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Anyways, the point is where they start to like get weaker, they won't
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be able to make it through the semis. I think that's what they hit.
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But I did the scudetto. Literally it would take some form of like
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catastrophic event for for it to not work out for them. Yeah, yeah,
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it really I think you fans we've been saying all year, you know,
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hopefully intervals far in the Champions League, you know the runo of gas
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in city have but Adrez you said, they basically have an interview out there
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and there's just we've talked about it over time and time again, so much
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depth, but looking below the table is more for me and Adriano you got
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You've now fifty three and Melan fifty two. Melan will be playing in the
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Europa League. They picked things up again, big win this week this weekend
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against Napoli. Maybe Jenny could talk about that after, but uh, Melan's
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gonna be playing in the Europa League again against uh rehn. Uh. This
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is a competition where it's you play more games you play two extra games if
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you want to get to the final. Compared to the Champions League, they
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play two. They're gonna be playing two Thursdays in a row and then if
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they advance, they played two more Thursdays in a row. And it's a
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it's a tiring competition. You've did that last year. It takes a lot
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of the players. But you know, looking at where both teams are,
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Juve hasn't won in three straight games and Melon's on the opposite side. They
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they won their last two, they drew the game before then, they won
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two before that. But is there a team like you look at the top
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four, like Milan, Juve is safely in the top four there Melan's thirteen
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points up on fifth place Bologna, Uve's fourteen points up again, not to
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say that these places are locked in, but with fourteen games left, both
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teams are gonna have to have a catastrok catastrophic collapse to not make Champions League.
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So you know they're kind of in no man's land right now. Two
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and three. Of course, at the end of the day, they always
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want pride. There's more money for finishing second versus finishing third. But do
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you think a team more for agent, between these two teams, do you
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think one has an advantage? Because I use a UVE fan on one end,
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I'm seeing them start to I want to say, collapse. This kind
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of happened last year to where come February something goes wrong. But then on
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the other hand, Milan could have could be playing for thursdays of the next
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five or six weeks, which takes a lot, and I don't know if
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they have that depth, So I think it's a top up. I still
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want to say You've has the advantage, but I'm not convinced at all.
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Yeah, no, I mean I guess on paper you can you can probably
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say that you can argue that at that point. You know, at the
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beginning of the season, I didn't put as much emphasis of of you've not
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playing, uh, you know, three times a week into their into their
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form of this year and where they're positioned currently. So you know, obviously
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kudos to them for for for you know, being able to get to the
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point that they're at. But yeah, like twenty twenty four, I mean
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ten to this new year, Melan has has done well. Uh, I
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don't think they've off the top of my head, I don't think they've lost
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in twenty twenty four. Besides, besides Cope Pitalia against Atalanta, I'm not
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mistaken. In the calendar year twenty twenty four, Milan is the best team
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right now. Yeah, exactly, I think you're I don't think. I
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don't think. I don't think they've lost, like in said, Yeah,
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the only glass I can think of is the Atalanta one. Like I said,
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so you know, they've picked up you know, a lot of points
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so far in twenty twenty four. But again, these are moments throughout the
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season, right, Like Juve was looking good up until these last couple of
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weeks. So again it's it's no, it's no guarantee, it's no lock.
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I don't think again, to go off the next point, I mean,
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like I said, on paper, I think you can say it's Juve
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probably has that advantage with not being able to we're not having to play sorry
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multiple games in the week, but it's still for the taking. Like,
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I don't think either team is really out of that second third place. Uh
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no, man slam, Like you said, it's unfortunate that that's kind of
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where they're where they are at. I think think it would have been a
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bit more exciting if it was a tad closer to the first place to see
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like where these three teams can kind of finish. But I don't see either
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team really taking this last part of the season lately. I think they should
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at least go for it to the max of their you know abilities. But
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I'm curious to see how Melan handle handles Europa League. You know, this
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is a team that has dealt with a lot of injuries this season and has
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went through many different ups and down moments. Uh and every week it seems
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like there's something new. So but we'll take the good with the good,
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We'll take the bad with the bad. But I don't think I don't think
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any team besides like I said, on paper, you can say you've had
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I don't really think any team has like a queer cut advantage per se.
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If you kind of take off your your your juva or melan biases, if
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you take that out of the consideration, I don't really think there's much of
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an advantage. At the end of the day, these teams have to once
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the pitch, have to perform, have to have to pick up the points.
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It's a it's the games where like for Meal and for example that you
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know, it's you know, it's the games against you know, these lower
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oppositions where they're not picking up maximum points where it's like, fuck, we
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should have got we shouldn't. We needed those points and we didn't pick them
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up. So so far they've done well against more or less the bigger teams
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in saayah. So and like I said, and Johnny even put out the
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fact they're the best calendar best team in the in the new calendar year of
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twenty twenty four. So yeah, it's it's it's a good start of this
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year. We'll see how far it goes. I'm hoping for for it to
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end well. But but yeah, I don't know. It just it's one
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of those things, like you said, Nick, I think it's it's it's
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more of a toss up than anything. It's it's that coin toss. Are
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we going to take the ball in overtime or we're not going to take the
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ball? Who knows, right, So we'll see, we'll see how it
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pans out. Uh. And you know I just spoke about it, the
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one nothing thing Melin win over Napoli and the one of the derby of derby
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Dell coucil guys that Igano did an amazing graphic if you could see on our
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on our Twitter Instagram, the coucil guys of Iano and Jenny photoshopped onto players
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from the nineties. I don't know, I guess yeah, onto their bodies
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playing against each other. But uh, uh so that was that was a
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good little truckle between the three of us before before the game. But it
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was one nothing uh game goal from Tail. But Jenny, Now for Napoli,
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you look at the standings back to this whole, you know, Champions
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League top four, because we really are in that that final stretch. Now,
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fifteen games left for Napoly. Uh, there's seven points off of Atalanta,
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who also have the game in hand versus everyone else. So between not
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Talanta Napoli, there's no advantage. Seven point is really it's not instrumentable,
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especially when you're when you're the defending champions. But the way Napolis playing and
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you know, it's really interesting, Johnny. I'm looking at their schedule.
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They haven't won back to back games since September, and at that point they
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only won two back to back. They they the highest streak of games one
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in a row was two this year. They won the first two games this
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season and then they beat Udinese and Lech in September, which is crazy.
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Uh, they haven't lost many back to back games either, so they're really
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like they win one, draw one, lose one type of team. Do
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you do you have any hope for Champions League? Like, I think Europe
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in general is a better goal, but Champions League, you think it's a
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bit too out there, especially with all the teams in front of them as
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well. Well, I mean since they one have been saying, consistency has
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been something I've been asking for from this team and it's been nearly impossible to
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get. And you just said it perfectly. If Romo or Napoli don't finish
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top four BEF time since twenty eleven twenty twelve, then neither of my team's
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made it into Champions League spot. I actually I actually went, I was
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curious, you want to look it up? I was curious, like there
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has to be like like something somewhere, you know, like yeah, so
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that so it would have it would have been. It would have been since
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twenty thirteen, twenty twelve, twenty eleven, twenty twelve. So I think,
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honestly top four is impossible for a Napoli at this point. The inconsistency
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is what's going to ruin them. You can't you can't make top four.
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You can't make top four if you just can string together wins. You need
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to be able to strink together wins. At this pace. What Napolei's doing
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is not stringing wins together. So in my personal opinion, it ain't happening.
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It's it looks more likely that Roma might actually get into that top four
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slot than the napoly But I digress. What I do hope for them is
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that they get some kind of like structure plan going into the next year.
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Uh maybe like an idea of who's going to be the coach next year.
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Also if if, if you want to continue with Mazzati or not. I
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mean I think Mazzadi is just a band aid right now. That back line
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needs help. That's another thing that needs to get fixed and settled. There's
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a lot of planning that needs to happen. And that's that's that's where I
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that's where I sit with Napoli right now. Yeah. No, I think
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it's well said. I think it's it's it's it's crazy and Nick I'm glad
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you brought that up because I did not realize that either in terms of there
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they're not able to string wins like that back to back. That's pretty crazy.
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I mean, you know, this title defense by Napoi and again it's
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no shot to to our nap friends, but it's it's it's been pretty bad.
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So I think, like Johnny said, I think they have to be
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planning for next year. I wouldn't say, Okay, yeah, this this
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rest of this, this this city, that season is a wash. No,
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you obviously still want your team to to fight and and to to show
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some sort of signs of of something to to to cling onto, uh,
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to go into next year with. But I don't know. I think we're
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gonna hopefully we see a whole new Napoo next season, because this is crazy,
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Like you know, from going last season they were like almost untouchable to
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now it's like, you know, it's you're not afraid to go to the
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Maradona like you were last season. You're not afraid to go against this team
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that was playing such beautiful culture last season. So that has been one thing
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that's really been a big thing for me looking on the outside in But even
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just going into this into the game over on yesterday, I don't know.
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I just think not we did it converting their chances. I know we say
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this a lot with with our teams at least, but I think that was
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kind of the fact of the game of the matter. I mean, when
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you have when you're playing these big games against big teams and and you only
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have a certain amount of opportunities to score and you don't, it's usually that
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by two in the ass, unless some sort of heroics happens in the final
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stretch up games. But you know that early chance by Simoni that ringed off
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the post, Milan was able to take one shot, one goal. It
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was the deciding ever wanted. Yeah, exactly right. So yeah, but
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but no, that's exactly it. So that one opportunity, that one goal
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by Tail, and I think it was obviously a great play that will trifect
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of you know, obviously, Lu you do, sorry Tails, you do
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layout off off to tail Uh Tale making that run and scoring the goal and
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that way out, way out Taylornandez connection on the left side. We've said
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it timeless times on this podcast. People are calling it tal Uh in the
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in the Milan in the Meulan verse of social media. But and I know
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Leo has been getting a lot of criticism this season for not being himself in
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terms of a goal scorer, but he's been able to provide. And I
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think he had a good game, even though people are probably gonna say he
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didn't. I think he had a good game. And even in the stretch
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of games where he's been getting criticized, I think he's There's obviously moments where
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he's he's the body language is not there. He's not showing that fight that
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grinta, I agree, But when he's having those mediocre games, I still
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think he's showing something and trying to produce something because when he goes on those
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runs and when he makes those those passes and uh creates it, it's almost
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unstoppable. So uh yeah, obviously, big points from you on the three
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points they got closer to Jove and now we're only one point behind with what
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today's result against the DNA is it. But happy for that. But I
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think Napoly, this wasn't Anopoly. That was that was like we're used to
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seeing. So, like I said, happy for you. As result,
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a lot of players stepped up, and you know what, they look good
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doing it too. In the new fourth fourth kits that they unveiled. Uh,
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you know this past week and I got to showcase it over over the
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weekend. So yeah, Jenny, you talk about Roma and Napoli not making
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Champions League, and you know, while you guys were talking, I was
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curious, was there a season in which Roma and Napoli both fired their coaches?
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Let's see if you're I looked it up, so I already know the
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answer. Let's see if you know this in the same season they fired in
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the same season. Was it when they hold on? Uh? When Gatuso
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and well, when Anceilotti and de Francesco were fired? No? Those uh
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those one? Uh? Roma with Diferanessco was eighteen nineteen season and then Gutuzo
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was fired in then twenty nineteen twenty twenty season. But same years in calendar
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year, just different seasons. That's a good question, actually spelled no,
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no, no, spelle no, it was it was a good well it
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was not when was it was? Was there when? Uh? No?
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Because Marino got hired during Swalati being a monopoly, you likely won't remember this,
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so I'll just yeah, wasn't was it Mazzati's first time. It's not
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this decade. It's not the twenty tens either. In two thousand and four,
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two thousand and five, when Napoli was actually in the city of Chi,
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they went through two managers, one of which was our friend at Jampiro
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Intuita and that season, that season, Roma went through an incredible four managers.
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I don't know how Bruno Conti, Luigi down the Area, Rudy Vohler
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and Cheesy Prandelli. I don't know how that happened, but solo and Italian
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moments to go four managers in a season, which is actually especially for a
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top club. Usually you see these. You see this at teams like Frozy,
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None, Kievo, Verona, Celeernitana, Crotone, but not Roma.
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So if anyone has a time machine and could tell us what happened in a
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thousand and four thousand and five with Roma and what what what went wrong?
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Please tell us. Oh yeah, I wouldn't know about Napoli because at the
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time during city s c like, I only started following them again when they're
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said he have b because that's when YouTube also became a thing. So I
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was able to watch them and see them. Before that, I was just
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like, oh cool, Like I would google it in just to see how
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they were doing, bets about it. I didn't paint into much details of
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like players or whatnot. Yeah, I can't blame you honestly and then associate
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you with with the coach had then I wouldn't follow the team either. I
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don't think a lot of us would. No. Uh, and but you
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know we spoke about Roma was spoken. Sorry, we spoke goodap, but
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we spoke a bit about me lion. But uh, another thing about Roma.
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I was also just looking at their schedule they have I think it's what
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is it eight eight losses this season? All but two of them were actually
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against teams. I'm sorry, all, but oh I lost it. I
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lost my tab. I'm on the wrong tab now. Sorry, guys,
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but the unprofessional guys technical difficult, guy, I have I have so many
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tabs open now with so many wikipedias of your brain has managers? What your
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brain has too many tabs open? Yeah? Exactly? All, all sorry,
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All but two losses were against teams actually above them in the standings.
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So they lost against Verona and and Genua, So teams below them. Then
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they lost against Melan, they lost against Inter twice, Uh, they lost
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against Bologna, and and they lost against and they did lose against Melan a
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second time. So that's against Milan twice in or twice Melan, Bologna and
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UH and Ve. Yeah. So you know, on one hand, on
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one hand, you'll say, like, these are the teams you need a
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beat if you want to qualify for top four. But on the other hand,
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losing these teams isn't the worst thing ever. You know, it's not
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like you've dropping points today against Use after they drop points against Ample, like
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these are more or less respectable losses. Of course, that loss against Bologna
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could really hurt them if they want to get that fifth spot, which could
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potentially turn into a Champions League spot in the future. But like you know,
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even losing this weekend Jenny, like four to two against and it's it's
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really not the worst thing, No, it's uh. And it was a
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game where they they went into half with the leads. The team was feeling
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it. They're there, they were, they were firing on all cylinders.
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It's just obviously in tis the better team. Uh, it's they have the
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like they were they were just they just played much better. Uh Lukaku fumbled
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a really good opportunity. It happens, but I might maybe might have changed
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the game, would have made it three to three. But that that fourth
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goal was they got caught on the counter attack for over extending and uh you
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know, but he got that fourth goal was kind of like an empty night
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in hockey. It was, Yeah, it's it's like you know it's coming,
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and it's like the only only way, the only way it's not gonna
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happens if the player fucking misses, because you could out like sometimes the best
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keep in the world won't be able to stop anything because because they can go
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anywhere, it's hard to predict to read which where the shots going because it
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could just basically anyway. You just gotta make yourself as big as possible.
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Whereas maybe like the third goals where like the sorry, the tying goal was
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where I was kind of mad at the team from from seeing it. It
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was just like like where's the defensive coverage? Like you know what I mean,
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Like I was just how did that get through? But there this this
26:26
season has been lights out. Uh you know, he's been really great for
26:30
the team. He said it before, Uh great pick up for them,
26:34
and uh he's showcasing it, you know, So that's uh, that's where
26:38
I basically say with I think I think it also was like how the how
26:42
how they lost the lead and how they lost the game, Like I think
26:47
that, I think that. I think the effort was there. I mean,
26:48
and it was pouring ring like I think our boy Chris Sanders was there,
26:52
if I'm not mistake, and I'm pretty sure it was in the court,
26:55
but it was like pouring ring and like, I don't know, man,
26:59
I under under, I know it's it's it just for now. I
27:04
would think we'll see come come the summertime. But he has them pointing with
27:10
some sort of obviously fight and and it's and it's as a neutral, as
27:15
an outsider, it's encouraging to see that they didn't just lay over, even
27:18
in the pre even in the pregame and the pregame press conference. He even
27:22
said it, Yeah, we have to show respect, but not too much
27:25
respectingto like, you know, we still have to go there. We are
27:27
roma we're playing at home, we're playing in front of sixty thousand. You
27:30
know, we have to we have to we have to go play our game,
27:33
and and and and go out there and fight. So you have to
27:37
see that out of out of you know, any team obviously seeing uh that
27:42
as a player, and I'll see him as a manager, and you know,
27:48
he he brings that. And especially in Rome, he's he's if it
27:52
wasn't for Tat, you know, he's he he would be the king of
27:55
Ronam himself. So you know, call him the prince, call him whatever
27:56
you want. But I like what he's, what he's brought as a in
28:02
terms of mentality for this team, which which I think kind of lost a
28:04
bit of that, that killer instinct and that green to a bit in the
28:10
in the tail end of of Marino. So it's I think that's one encouraging
28:15
thing. And it's unfortunate, I think in the loss, But for me,
28:18
it was more how they lost it. But at the end of the
28:22
day, like we said, you know, there's the better team and and
28:26
I know we spoke to Nima last week and he said, you know,
28:27
if if this game, if inter wins this game, it's it's it's it's
28:30
even it's even more of an extension at the top, like we mentioned earlier.
28:34
And for Roma, I think it's yeah, you know, you you
28:40
accept the loss. I think headset held up high even though it was a
28:44
loss at home. But there's so many teams in this in this fight for
28:49
for that fourth spot for Europe in general. So it's a damper, but
28:55
I don't think it's a it's a dagger for for Roma. Uh. Some
29:00
other games from around city this weekend. Bologna, you know, with their
29:06
somewhat I wouldn't say come back to their normal sale self, but for one
29:11
against leed Chase, it seems like they're a bit on a bit of on
29:14
a lull lately. Genoa sorry it was four nothing, it was General General
29:19
lost to one, four to one. That's what I was looking at.
29:23
So that was the team there. They maintained their fourth spot and another high
29:27
scoring game five to one fiorentinover some other really non non talk about games.
29:34
So Soolo one one, Reno, Monza zero zero, Verona and I'm believe
29:38
beats learn Atano uh three to one, but one game or at least one
29:42
player. I want to talk about Lazo three to one against Klity Uh.
29:47
The reason all I want to talk about this is Chiromobile uh scored his two
29:51
hundredth goal in Sidia, which makes him the eighth all time player to score
29:56
two hundred goals. So he's eighth all time in in goal scoring, five
30:00
behind Roberto Badjo, nine behind Dinatale, and sixteen behind Mayazza Mayata and Al
30:07
Telfine. On top of the list, we have Silvio Piola to seventy four,
30:11
Tati fifty, Nice Round number two fifty and Gunner Nordalo two twenty five.
30:18
I mean, I know, you know, Tirto gets a lot of
30:22
hate, but he's an efficient goal scorer for Lazio. He's just been banging
30:27
them in like crazy ever since he joined them. I think it was back
30:30
in twenty sixteen, one hundred and sixty eight goals in two hundred and fifty
30:33
seven games with them. Like like, I want to ask where does he
30:38
rank amongst the players above him? We'll probably say eighth. But one thing
30:45
I do want to talk about this is more of a talking point Silvia Piola.
30:48
He has two hundred seventy four goals. Obviously Mobile is not going to
30:52
break that record, but do you guys think this is a record that we're
30:56
going to see broken in our at least in our lifetime, because this record
31:00
has stood since nineteen fifty four. I don't think so. I like the
31:07
way the game is nowadays, the way that like, especially how Seia is
31:12
in general, that they always have masterful tacticians managing these teams. It's it's
31:21
hard that you're going to have a player get to those get to that amount
31:25
of goals unless starting from day one you get a prodigy who's banging in thirty
31:30
plus every season, which is crazy hard to do. It's especially in Sadia.
31:37
It's like I said, teams just counter each other very well. Managers
31:41
just know how to read the game properly. In Italy, it's that's the
31:45
main factor. Like in the fifties, the quality you can it's I think
31:49
it'd be quite easy to see that the quality of vantaging was not the same
31:53
as what it is today. But that's normal because then equality fifty years from
31:57
now will not be the same as it is today, probably will be much
32:00
better than it is today, and so on and so forth. You know.
32:02
That's how that's the evolution of sports. You see natural progression because people
32:08
just find ways to fine tune the way they move the ball, the way
32:12
they passed the ball, changing their systems. You know, like wing backs.
32:16
Back in the day, we weren't players that got in super offensively.
32:21
They're mostly used as like a sweeper sometimes you know, defensively. Now they're
32:25
actually extra wingers in an attack. You know what I'm saying, it's it's
32:30
the evolution of the sport. That's what it is. So to see.
32:34
So to funnel the point home, I don't think it's going to be anything
32:38
that will probably see broken in our lifetime, unless, like I said,
32:43
some divine miracle happens that a prodigy just comes along and plays instead he have
32:46
most of their career, you know, like maybe come out of that might
32:51
be that player for Milan and who knows but the kids destroying records as sixteen
32:58
year old. But you know how many have se mass stories that we see
33:00
in our lifetimes. That too many. But no, in all seriousness,
33:07
like it's it's hard, I don't think So I hate to sound like a
33:10
pessimist, but I I don't. Hey, if I prove it wrong,
33:14
I'm proven wrong, and I won't be like, oh like, hey if
33:17
I get proven wrong, I'll be happy I'm proven wrong. Like I'm not
33:20
gonna be one of those guys that gonna be like a bitter about it.
33:22
But I don't know, man, it's I don't think so. So yeah,
33:28
I know a couple of things for me first, but before we before
33:30
I say about this, I mean just I mean shuple obviously, Touchio.
33:35
It's one thing too. It's one thing to criticize, it's another thing to
33:39
hate. And I think obviously the lot of the hate, especially in Sadia
33:44
is very unwarranted. Obviously, I mean, say what you want with him
33:47
in the India Zuri shirt. Okay, you know, maybe we can have
33:52
two different conversations. But listen, the proof is in the putting. The
33:57
goals are there two hundred in Seia. You know it's it's it's no,
34:01
it's no, no joke of a of a of a stat And I think
34:07
he's done it the fastest too, if I'm not mistaken in the modern era.
34:10
If I'm not mistaken, I was reading something along those lines on Twitter
34:15
the last couple of days. So not only has he done it, not
34:19
only has he done it, he's done it efficiently as well, So kudos
34:22
to tributes. He He's proven time and time again he can score in the
34:28
league. So yeah, definitely definitely got to give him his flowers there,
34:32
But I just want to make it quit. There's one thing to criticized.
34:37
There's nothing to hate that. Those things are are are are two different things,
34:39
and it's unfortunate when he gets to hate the criticism. Anybody should be
34:45
able to take that, but it's the hate that it crosses the line sometimes.
34:46
But in terms of that record, I mean, listen, it's been
34:50
since when you said fifty four and nineteen fifty four. Look the names on
34:53
that list. Look at the names on that list. They're all older players.
34:58
I mean obviously, no no about saying like look at the look at
35:00
the type of players that are on the on this list of of of scoring
35:02
the CID. Yeah, and these are like the legends of the game,
35:06
legends of the league. I mean, they weren't able to surpass that that
35:09
that feet and when we see that broken, I mean I kind of have
35:15
to agree. I mean it's kind of probably unlikely. First off, Like
35:20
longevity in this game is is one thing. How many times do we see
35:24
players that are supposed to be the next coming of Jesus Christ and you know
35:29
we don't. They don't pan out right, they get injured, Uh,
35:32
you know, this player was supposed to be X, Y and Z.
35:37
They didn't pan out. So I don't know, I don't I don't see
35:42
it. Maybe in our lifetime, maybe in our kids generally in our kids'
35:44
lifetime. Maybe we don't know. But I think the longevity, uh,
35:49
this league is so tactically sound, and we've said it in you know,
35:55
people have said it in the past, we're saying it presently and I think
35:58
we'll probably continue to say in the future for how how how tough this league
36:01
is in terms of being able to score in even though we've moved from that
36:07
you know, contentactural style of play to there's more you know, I guess
36:12
quote unquote modern type of football in this league. But it's it's going to
36:16
take I think, like Jenny said, like somebody to come out of the
36:20
word works and really being able to bangals season in, season out, and
36:24
again it takes a toll Man like longevity, like there's no more of there's
36:30
no more of the talks the Maldinis that the pianos of the world, you
36:34
know, you know, playing for for these you know, extensive careers and
36:37
being at the top of their game. I mean, we see obviously Messi
36:40
and Ronaldo currently that being able to to do it. But I don't know
36:45
if we're going to continue to see that in in world football. I hope
36:50
I'm wrong again, Like Johnny said, I hope, we hope we are
36:52
wrong, and we hope somebody does break it. But listen, it's been,
36:55
it's been. It's been up there since nineteen fifty four. We're in
37:00
twenty twenty four, guys. I don't know if we're gonna see that that
37:02
that that broken again. I don't know. I don't see it. Maybe
37:10
somebody sees something that we don't. Again, let us let us know.
37:14
But uh yeah, no, I I don't. I don't see it.
37:19
I think I think physically it's possible, like Italy would like, I wouldn't
37:28
say it's gonna happen in the next ten years. I think if it gets
37:32
done, you need a player that's world class out of this world even on
37:37
you know, Ronaldo, uh, Messi, even Luis Suarez level that just
37:43
bangs goals like crazy. But he needs to stay in the city out the
37:46
whole time and and do this consistently. That's probably the bigger hurdle to face
37:55
because players are just moving around all the time. Even look at it,
37:59
it mobile like he did spend time away. Do I think if he stayed
38:04
his whole time in Italy he would break Puoli's record. Piola's record, No,
38:07
not at all, Like seventy four goals is still a lot to cover
38:12
in that time span. In fact, him going away and coming back probably
38:15
helped him. That's probably what saved is his career because he was really struggling
38:23
before Latcho. Right. But yeah, like you look at some of the
38:30
best players right now. Ronaldo he scored five hundred and thirty two league goals,
38:35
Messi four hundred ninety seven, Lewandowski three seventy six, it's a lot
38:40
of time, three ninety four, Sware it's three eighty eight. So these
38:44
are numbers that that breaks Piola's record. It's just that they played all over
38:49
the place. So if you get a player of that type who stays in
38:52
Italy the whole time, okay, who cares if he goes around between different
38:54
teams, he could definitely do it. He would need a long career,
38:58
ten fifteen years. You think ten years, thirty goals a year, that's
39:00
a lot. Fifteen years. You averaged less it's definitely doable. But player
39:07
like Ronaldo and Messi, yes, definitely doable, very easily doable. Player
39:12
like Lewandowski not impossibly. Not in the league for ten years, Yeah,
39:22
problem, it's it's it's like it's it's it's just not probable. I'm not
39:25
saying it wasn't possible, but not Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like
39:30
it's it's I'm less convinced in the case of Lewandowski, but because don't forget,
39:34
like mm hmmm, he played in the Bundesliga for a while even just
39:38
just the example of his lot time. Honestly, like if he stayed in
39:42
City, he could have been the all time goal scorer if he stayed in
39:45
the City his whole career. Yeah, it's possible, but he also got
39:49
a lot of goals in MLS that he probably wouldn't have gone in uh in
39:53
that time in Citia. But point stands, if he stayed his entire career
39:59
in City, he might have been able to do it. This is Monday
40:02
morning quarterback with the Culture guys, but moving away now from City. We
40:13
got Champions League this week. It's back no Italian teams tomorrow. We do
40:21
have Latto on Wednesday, so Laso Byron on Wednesday, so rematch. I
40:25
think they played in what I think it was twenty twenty one they last played
40:30
when Byron killed Latto, especially in the Second League. And then next week
40:32
we have Inter Athletico and then Napoli Barcelona. So actually we do have good
40:39
matchups for the Italian teams in Europa League. I know Milan plays Rin and
40:46
I forget, I forget who well, I forget who Roma plays. It's
40:53
fair in Nord of course, of course it's fairrd what part three? You
40:58
know? What is it not Part eighty two? Who knows? And then
41:04
in the Conference League there are no Italian teams is it? If pereantinam advance,
41:09
they just have to wait. I think they just have to wait around
41:12
because it's like the knockout round. So I think they advanced to the round
41:15
of sixty. I think they wait the next round. Yeah, I know
41:22
we've talked about it before with the Champions League, but you know between the
41:25
Italian teams, between Lazo, Inter Andopoly, is there anything you guys expect
41:30
to see from them? Do you think like how many teams? I know
41:36
we've talked about how many teams you expect to go through. But now that
41:38
we're closer to the actual games, who do you think is actually going to
41:43
go through? Johnny, I don't think Napoli goes through. I no.
41:52
I mean, it's you're playing against Barsa, You're you're having so much inconsistencies.
41:57
But are they fair? I guess so that's old but not struggling.
42:04
Also, yeah, if it happens, you know, hey, yeah,
42:08
like it happens, great, I just I don't know so many like all
42:12
these inconsistent season like in recent games, it just be so doubtful about this
42:16
team. That's that's what it That's what it is right now. Yeah,
42:22
No, again again it's fair. I mean, I know, but I
42:27
mean I don't follow well we are or many other teams here really, but
42:30
I know they're going through a bit of their moment. I know Chavi is
42:34
is kind of up in up in arms with with what's going on there,
42:38
and I don't think he's back in the season, and it's just not been
42:40
the Barcelona season that they probably have wanted in this whole campaign. But again,
42:45
at just at the end of the day, it still is Barcelona,
42:49
right, So that's probably the biggest thing I'm curious to see when else you
42:54
men gets back for for not we obviously being an away off con this whole
43:00
time has has has We've seen a different knopoint being fielded, but that changing
43:07
formations and so that has probably been a bigger mess. But I'm curious to
43:09
see when when man gets back in there, what what if anything just change
43:16
for for Lotso I mean we said it. I think when we spoke to
43:21
Sean McIntosh ah handful of episodes ago about this, and I mean for me,
43:28
I think for them, what is there to lose? I mean,
43:31
besides obviously the game, Obviously that's okay. We get that they can lose
43:36
the game. They don't really have much to lose. I mean, you're
43:38
going against You're going against Bayern, a top team in Europe. You know,
43:44
Uh, they're lots of doing what they're doing in Sadiyah kind of up
43:47
and down, up and down, up and down. I have they have
43:51
to go for it, and I think they have they have just for them
43:53
doing that, they have a chance. So I want to see them fight
43:58
because I think that would make it interesting scene. And then in the the
44:00
inter electrical, I think, like I said, we said it, or
44:04
always I know I have. I mean it's a that's a that's an interesting
44:07
and top matchup. I mean, I know it's it's uh, you know,
44:10
two different levels of inter an electical, but again it's still Electical and
44:15
champions with even with simone, I mean it's they know each other, and
44:21
I think, you know this is gonna be uh, I would think a
44:24
top matchup in in this competition. So I'm curious to see that one.
44:30
And that's and this test with Electrical again is gonna put a lot of our
44:34
questions with inter Champions League. So yeah, maybe maybe to bed, maybe
44:37
to rest, we don't know. So I'm just curious to see how how
44:43
how these things pan out. But as long as these teams fight, I
44:46
think we can we can go home hopefully happy campers. Uh in this competition,
44:54
h U Nick, what do you what do you think? I think
44:58
Intern is the only one who goes through. Yeah, Byron is Bayron.
45:01
I know that it's not the same Byron that Latso played like three years ago,
45:06
but they're they're still the better team. They're still the better team.
45:10
Also just doesn't have it. They don't have the individual talent. I don't
45:16
think it's gonna be like a ten nothing beat down there, but they'll probably
45:21
hold their own. But at the end, I think a lot Byron just
45:24
has enough talent to get through. Not believe Barcelona, as we said,
45:28
this is not this is another rematch. I think it was they last played
45:30
in like twenty twenty, and that I know they've probably played in the group
45:34
stage against each other. It seems like this is a rematch. Happens a
45:37
lot the Maridona rematch. But yeah, that's another one. I know.
45:43
Agree with Jenny like I think, I think Barsa is gonna go through it.
45:46
I don't think this is as much of let's say guarantee as Byron Latso,
45:52
even though there are no guarantees in sports. But if I'm a betting
45:58
man, I'm putting money on bars and Inter. Like I said, I
46:01
do think they're gonna go through. It's gonna be This is gonna be an
46:06
interesting matchup because there's a lot of history between Simeon and interis played for them.
46:09
Obviously, both both teams play very similar styles. It could be like
46:15
a one nothing score line over one hundred and eighty minutes, that's what we
46:20
could see. Uh No, we know Athletical just lost Marata. I don't
46:23
know exactly his injury, but I saw on twitter it seems pretty serious,
46:28
doesn't seem like you'll I saw, I saw it might be not as serious
46:30
as they were saying, maybe about in a couple of weeks. I okay,
46:34
so maybe he'll be back for the second leg. Maybe, but yeah,
46:39
it'll be interesting. But I think inter we we just see it.
46:43
They just get the job done this season. That's what. That's what,
46:46
Uh, that's what's been happening, honestly, and even guys look at an
46:51
other game, other matchups in the Champions League at Copenhagen, Man City,
46:54
Leipzig, Real, PSG Rail Associated ad PSV Dorman and poor Portal Arsenal.
47:00
Besides maybe Portal Arsenal, I don't know how exactly how Porto has been doing
47:05
this season. Like there's not a lot of juicy matchups. There's not a
47:07
lot of like historic teams here. Uh, it seems like the Italian teams
47:13
have the best matchups here. Maybe maybe that's just our bias, bias bias
47:17
bias included with with that statement, but but no, I think, I
47:22
mean, I saw, I don't remember who posted that they were doing like
47:25
percentages of each matchup, who's gonna advance and what chance of you know,
47:30
they think that, you know, the teams are gonna they're gonna pass by
47:34
it. But there's a lot of like swinging ones like the Man City one.
47:37
You know, I think Real Madrid whoever they're playing, I don't know,
47:43
it's gonna be interesting. Champions League is box so that we're definitely excited.
47:46
But I think even with our bias, I I agree with I agree
47:50
with your statement Nick in terms of the Italian teams have always on paper the
47:54
quote unquote better matches, uh and moving towards Europa League. As we just
48:00
said, Roma, Fair Nerd and Meelan Ran. I mean, I'll be
48:05
honest, guys, I don't know too much about Fair Nord or or in
48:07
this season. I'll personally say I think Roma, both Roma and Meelan could
48:14
go through. I know Roma has that history now with fan RD. You
48:17
know, they they've only lost one game under du ROSSI, so maybe they're
48:23
still on the high of having a new coach. But it seems like,
48:30
you know, we can also talk about some past success in the past few
48:32
seasons under Mourinho or maybe you know the players at least have learned how to
48:37
win in Europe. You know, the two straight European finals, is it
48:43
nothing? Obviously Europa League is a tougher competition than the Conference League. But
48:45
they still did make the final last year in Europa League. But the battle
48:51
starts out to get back to that final and Melan Rehn Again, I don't
48:53
know too much about Rern. I'll still say Meelan will win because I watched
49:00
them. I know they're a team that could just get the job done.
49:04
Can either team ro mar Meline win the competition? No clue? Uh yeah,
49:09
that's it. I think I'm not going to pretend them. Yeah,
49:13
I'm not going to pretend like there are some decent teams here. It's Benfica,
49:15
there's Marseille, even Sporting there. You know, they have a bit
49:21
of history right in these competitions. But it's Europa League, like anything could
49:24
happen. I think. I think for the Italian teams, I think it's
49:28
up to them if if they you know, how how far, how how
49:34
much emphasis, how much effort. I mean, they're more than capable.
49:37
I think both these teams, even though even in the moments that they're going
49:40
through or not going through in the season and said, yeah, I mean,
49:45
or they are in the table. I mean, I think it's up
49:47
to them. I think they're they're both capable. I don't again, I
49:51
don't know. I don't think they're They're they're doing that well at least last
49:58
time I had checked when we first spoke about this. But but for Meali's
50:04
sick. I just want them to take it seriously. I want this again.
50:07
This is a competition they've never won or never had to have won with
50:10
with their with their Champions League history. But yeah, I know, it's
50:15
it's it's it's something that I'm curious to see how they approach it. Uh.
50:20
And then again, it's just luck of the draw who they would get
50:22
matched up with if they do advance, and and you know how how tournament,
50:28
well not tournament, but how you know how campaigns of European competitions go.
50:32
So for Roma Faranoid, I think if those two oppositions, I think
50:39
Faranoid is probably the better team and over Ren, I would think. And
50:45
they've given they've given Roma their trouble, and Roma's given them their troubles,
50:49
So I think that's more of a toss up if if anything, But again
50:54
I think like I said earlier with Roma, I mean that also has them
51:00
playing in a way where they they're fighting for the shirt. You know,
51:02
they he makes it. I think clear what it means to wear the Roma
51:06
shirt, and that good into I think is going to carry over it.
51:09
I think what is which we didn't really say before but was lacking a bit
51:14
in in the in the Roman inter game, was was you know they're they're
51:17
they're big players stepping up and they're big players, you know, taking the
51:21
game by the horns and really and really running with it. You know,
51:24
they've all had a social game, was you know Lukaku of old in terms
51:30
of not being able to to step up in the big moments. But if,
51:35
if, if these players do, I think they they have every every
51:40
possibility of going forward and going as far as they can in the competition because
51:45
they've, like you said, and they've they have a bit of that experience
51:49
in in the competition. They know some of these teams at this level in
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this competition. So I think, like I said, it's up to both
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these Italian teams how how much they wanted and how how willing they are to
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go to go to the distance in europe League ending comments from Johnny europea League
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champions or what I mean, I I kind of let go of that once
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Mourinho left. I'll be honest with you. I love that Austie. I
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love the vibes that he brings and love the energy. But Marino like,
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he has a pedigree in European competition. You'd be foolish to argue against that.
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No matter whether you hate him or or you know, don't agree with
52:36
his tactics, he he gets the job done in Europe, you know.
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And uh, tonight was a tonight. Yes, it was a reality check
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this weekend for for Roma against inter Like, because that's the type of team
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you might face against in a final. You might face against a team that
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is able to bring into a match like that. Roma was able to.
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They have the team on paper, they could go far. But what I
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liked about Mourinho is that he's able to adapt to his opponents and frustrate them
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and change his strategy or tactics when need to. He really gets under team's
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skins with with the style that he brings. That Austi's got that that AlSi
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has that fire, you know, like he's the motivator in the dressing room.
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He's won as a player. As a manager, he's also I mean
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not as a manager, but you know part of the team staff, you
53:23
know, one to Euro So he does have a bit, he does have
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a bit of a trophy case to back up any of his his claims.
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So I'll be cool if he succeeds. I have a bit of doubt.
53:37
Doubt I might get laughed at for having for having that doubt, but like,
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like I said, I don't think that especially that Austi just managing the
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top flight team for like his first time in his career. You know,
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there's a lot to adapt to, and there's a lot to know, and
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there's there's there's a lot of nuance to the game. There's a lot of
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like little intricacies in managing a team, especially in your in competitions. Right,
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Uh, you could have a good support staff. So if you have
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a good supporting staff, maybe not all help out a lot, but you
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know, it's uh, it's a very very very very like you you step
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one inch out of the way and you you screw up everything. So I
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hope they go far. I hope they you know, maybe they did contest
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in the final again, but once Mody and Neil left, I'm like,
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oh, that ship has sailed for me. I'm just there, like,
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let's try to get into the top four spot, which seems probable right now.
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But is there a chance that is there a chance that you want to
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roam face in the final and then you're in any shape or form is anywhere
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Europa League? Yeah, yeah, I think like the brackets are actually the
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brats not set. No, it's not okay, true? Yeah, and
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Atlanta is still waiting, by the way, so there's there could be there
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could be three Italian teams in the round of sixteen, but cross aversion we
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get there, and then in the Conference League, Fiorentina is also waiting in
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the round of sixteen. But yeah, I don't know. I think the
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bracket only gets set for the European games, like the European competitions. I
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think it's as of the quarterfinals. I think that applies to the Champions League
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two. So pretty much any team could play any team at the point.
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And yeah, sure right now, right now makes sense? Yeah, make
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sense. Yeah, a lot of a lot of a lot of soccer to
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be played. I guess one last thing that I want to talk to you
55:34
about Italy Champion Nations League returning after the Euros in September. Interesting group Belgium,
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France and Israel, which honestly I like because it's the Nations League.
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It's not the most serious competition. It's good competition for the players. It
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will be good competition before the World Cup qualification starts, and to play Belgium
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and France both is going to be great. Italy has played France in a
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competitive match. Apparently since you're two thousand and eight, that could change in
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the Euros. That could change in the upcoming Euros. Doesn't necessarily mean we
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have to we have to wait into the Nations League. But I really like
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it. I think it's top two. They changed format this year the top
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two teams advance. So again, guys, they're adding more games. There's
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gonna be Nations League quarterfinals now plus semis plus finals. So they just keep
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adding games and games if we need as if we need them, as if
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we need them whatever. It's a sixteen team tournament. It's basically the same
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format as the old Euros, like twenty twelve and before before they changed the
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twenty four teen format. It's it's a it's another euros. Do we wanted
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it'll be twin? Sure, but at this point you know it will be
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more just good practice competition against top teams. Uh. Do you guys have
56:54
any reaction to that draw? Which, to be honest, I didn't know
56:59
what was happening until I saw it on Instagram last week. I knew what
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was happening. I had seen it, I think the day before. Actually,
57:06
it's funny and because it was when it was the last Thursday I think,
57:12
or was it last Yeah, it was, I think it was last
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Thursday, last Wednesa, I don't remember. On one of these days last
57:15
week. Uh, And I was like, okay, maybe if I if
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I got a chance on one break whatever, maybe I'll tune in. But
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that went right over my head. Didn't tune in, and then saw the
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saw who they got after. But yeah, let's say, hey, luck
57:30
or unluck of the draw in this case, we get we get some of
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some of the big big nations. I think it really is like what it
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is like. I mean, there's not really much more to it. People
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are saying, oh, yeah, of course we got France and Belgium.
57:45
Yeah, they don't want it to Okay, it's enough for that. We
57:47
don't need this fucking song and dance. I'm again, I'm just curious to
57:54
see how how Spoetic takes it. He obviously commented afterwards about it when they
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interviewed him. I mean, he knows how how hard of a group it
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is. I mean, how serious they take it. I would hope they
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do. They do take it somewhat serious and see how far they go.
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But I think it's it's really one step at a time with this, with
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this, with this AUTI you know, first get through this Euro however that
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happens, and however that goes goes, move on to Champions Champions, Nations
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League, and then hopefully, if in qualifying, do a better job to
58:30
get to a to a World Cup. So yeah, I know, I
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mean, I guess I was pretty uh not. I don't know if it
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was shocked the word, but I was like, damn, like we actually
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got like a tough group and then seen some of the other groups, I'm
58:45
like, fuck, like, why is everybody in in in in in in
58:50
Italy's group? But it is where it is. Again, I think,
58:52
like you said, I think the competition will be strong, and I think
58:57
it's uh, it gives this, it gives this team and under a new
59:00
manager and in Spoletia, another experiment to go into uh to kind of to
59:07
kind of see like where this where this nation's you know, ranks amongst some
59:10
of the better teams or some of the maybe equivalent teams. I think we're
59:14
better in Belgium. Uh. Personally, I think it's obviously France is the
59:17
big test. Israel is Israel. I mean, I don't know too much
59:22
about their national team, but I would hope and pray that we can we
59:25
can get past Israel. But I think the France matchup obviously, the history
59:32
there with with with the French is always, uh, it always seems to
59:37
be a better one. And listen, well, we love to we have
59:39
to face them and we love to to to go to battle. So I'm
59:43
excited for for that. But again, I think there's a lot I want
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to be a lot to be had, a lot to be said with with
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with the national team, and uh, I'm excited to see how that how
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that unfolds got to get through. Yeah, in the group, is there
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is there is there a was it it's only top two teams? Is that
1:00:02
what it is, or there's a chance a third place team or that's that's
1:00:05
not a thing. No, actually, the third place team uh so the
1:00:12
fourth place team automatically gets relegated to Nations League B. Uh. The third
1:00:15
place team plays a playoff against a third place team or a second place team
1:00:22
in UH one of the nation's League B groups. So even if you finish
1:00:25
third place, you're still playing another match. There's just endless games, guys,
1:00:30
endless games for these players. They just keep adding on and on and
1:00:35
on. You Yuefa goes on a spiel, how Super League is gonna ruin
1:00:39
football. Meanwhile they're breaking these guys to the ground. These guys probably have
1:00:44
no knees left. They probably have ten knee replacement surgeries a year for all
1:00:47
the games they play. As a fan like, of course, we always
1:00:52
enjoy watching games. But you got to think about these players again, back
1:00:55
to the conversation of goal scoring records. If they play this many games,
1:01:00
sure you think more games equals more goals, But they play this many games
1:01:02
on the national team, they're gonna have no more energy left to score goals
1:01:06
in the YEA. But you know that's that's the discussion for another day.
1:01:09
Maybe we'll have to get like a physiotherapist on the show to to talk about
1:01:14
the impact on these players. But is it but maybe eighteen teams or is
1:01:19
it twenty teams? I don't know where are we going to? I don't
1:01:22
know, talking point twenty teams for the money. We got twenty teams for
1:01:27
the money, even though we know that team's right at the bottom. Suck.
1:01:30
But again, conversation for another day. You wait, wait before we
1:01:36
wrap up, you guys, you guys think eighteen or twenty? Just eight
1:01:39
eighteen? Johnny, like, we don't need three four cellar any tennas you
1:01:44
know, sorry celearning but but you know, at the same time, so
1:01:47
any time that does give trouble to me on ROMO. So I mean there
1:01:52
is that. But anyways, Johnny, So I got into a little bit
1:01:54
of debate with friends, repeat the question eighteen teams. Why I'm on the
1:02:00
podcast, So shout out to Johnny's friends. But eighteen teams in citia or
1:02:06
twenty because that's been the big talking point. So just a couple of days,
1:02:14
I could see the upside for both I if the league does financially a
1:02:20
little bit better when there's eighteen teams. I think it's more of the competition
1:02:24
is is is ste you would think tighter like I mean, you would think
1:02:29
a bit better. I don't know. Better is very h subjective, but
1:02:34
that's why you got to say more better, better, more better, bro
1:02:37
or better breader. I like twenty, honestly do twenty. I like to
1:02:43
see some teams get up into City O, the teams that you don't usually
1:02:45
see. I like the like the little flair that they give. You get
1:02:47
a little bit of a showcase of players that your team could potentially pick up
1:02:51
on during the summer when they go down and stuff like that. Those players
1:02:53
can stain saidy not necessarily have to go back down to City I be.
1:02:58
I think I think if if, if this league would would would be able
1:03:02
to produce, and these teams at the bottom be able to produce more money
1:03:06
to be able to say that it makes sense for them to stay in said
1:03:08
yeah, because right now, if you look at you know, the wage
1:03:12
bill of teams in those last three spots and just the amount of money they
1:03:16
bring in, the money money they make and the study, yeah, that
1:03:21
doesn't really help them all too much. I mean, I think that's kind
1:03:23
of plays a factor in terms of how far that that that's the reason why
1:03:28
this you know, these teams are so okay obviously besides like historic whatever and
1:03:32
all that, and you know, they're just they're just not, uh,
1:03:36
top teams in this league. But they separate themselves even more by by that
1:03:40
being a by that being a factor, right, like what what money does?
1:03:45
Does hell as we want to make or or produce in terms in comparison
1:03:50
to two other top leagues. Like I mean, I know that's a whole
1:03:52
other conversation that can of worms, but it's some of these teams it seems
1:03:58
like they almost can't even survive in staid. Yeah, you know, they
1:04:00
need that SETI money to be able to continue to survive. So I'm kind
1:04:03
of on the fence. I think, uh, this this this league.
1:04:09
You know, they they want to they want to go forward, but they
1:04:12
want to stick to what they're what they're doing. But they want to try
1:04:15
to progress into the future. But I don't know, I think they're they're
1:04:18
hitting themselves in in in uh you know, they're they're in that between our
1:04:24
rock and a hard points type of situation with with Sadiya, and I think
1:04:27
that's kind of where they're at. But it's funny how the top most of
1:04:30
the top teams kind of agree to to to getting the eighteen. It was
1:04:35
obviously the majority of other teams that said no. So I don't know.
1:04:41
It was eighteen in the past, wasn't it. Uh So I don't see
1:04:44
why it can't go back to that. Yeah, no, I'll I'll say
1:04:50
eighteen. But I mean, I think we're just going so used to twenty
1:04:55
over these past add years. I don't know how muchy long it's been now,
1:04:58
but it's kind of we just used to that. But people are going
1:05:01
to say it's like, oh, why are you gonna try to emulate you
1:05:03
know, Ligua and then the Bundesliga, you know you want to compare yourselves
1:05:08
to them, or we're better league? Sure, you know, the Premier
1:05:12
League has twenty teams. Yeah, but the Premier League and Cetia is like
1:05:15
talking about the apples and oranges, so we can't even compare. But again,
1:05:18
guys, another conversation, probably for another day, because I feel like
1:05:21
we can rap about this for another hour. So yeah, eighteen, I'm
1:05:27
going to say. I'm trying to I'm trying to look up the last time
1:05:32
there was two thousand and three thousand and four, so twenty years ago.
1:05:38
It's been like this for twenty years. Yeah, I mean at that time
1:05:42
the city. You can make the argument merited too extra teams with the level.
1:05:46
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