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MINI SCROLL: Harry Jowsey vs. Trisha Paytas, Sabrina Carpenter trans support, Tunis/to Nice + Ashtin Earle's rate · Mini Scroll

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  Hi everyone. Welcome to Mini Scroll, the
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  from social media, the creator economy and the digital space.
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  Every Monday through Thursday and sometimes Fridays.
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  I'm your host, Lauren Meisner, the founder of the youth digital
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  Great. The first story that I have for
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  you guys. This is a kind of, well, it is
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  definitely a random one. Harry Jowsey and Tricia Paytas
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  are kind of feuding online. So Harry Jowsey started a little
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  bit of beef with Tricia Paytas on a recent episode of his
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  podcast and now Tricia has responded.
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  So Harry had Tana Mojo on his podcast boyfriend material and
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  Tana brought up Tricia in their exchange who obviously like Tana
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  is super close with her and Tricia have a podcast together
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  so she brought her up in a really positive light and then
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  Harry cut Tana off to complain about how Trisha Paytas hates
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  him. Really laugh at our clout
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  farming era like you and I. I was talking about this
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  yesterday actually with Trisha. But just like what?
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  She hates me. No, I just told them I was like,
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  I saw her name on the unwell thing and I was like, oh, this
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  is going to be weird because anytime I'm brought up on a
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  podcast. She's so sweet, like in person,
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  like she's not, she doesn't like hold any hate in her heart, but
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  I feel like what? Did she say?
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  Yesterday. She didn't say anything like
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  because she knows that we're friends.
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  So I don't think that she was trying to like, you know what I
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  mean? I always say about you that I
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  have a special bond with you specifically because we have had
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  the luxury of always being friends and like just.
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  Friends. OK, so so even though Trisha and
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  Harry don't know each other, he's actually not totally wrong.
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  Trisha has spoken poorly of him publicly.
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  Back in February, Harry and Lucy Hale apparently were dating or
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  became romantically linked at one point.
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  I didn't even know about this and then it came up on the Just
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  Trish podcast and Trisha had some choice words about Harry.
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  Now he's dating Lucy Hale from Pretty Little Liars.
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  And I love Pretty Little Liars. So now I'm like, damn it, we're
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  on the losing team. I think I might have to switch
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  up and like be pro Harry Drowsy at this point.
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  I don't know. I still have to talk to Riley
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  Arnold first, actually. Before I can, I think on your
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  stream would be a great place for him to be.
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  I'm not trying to come up with very drowsy.
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  For the rest, you really did. You're like, we should be
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  friends with him. I'm like, maybe on the Oscar
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  Gracie vlog channel. I'm sorry.
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  This one I have to disavow. I have to disavow as far as way
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  as possible. There's nothing good about him.
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  There's nothing you put out into the world.
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  He's misogynistic. He has not apologized for being
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  misogynistic. Like I just everything about him
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  is awful. Look, is that a controversial
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  take? No, everything that I know about
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  Harry Jowsey, that tracks. OK.
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  But anyways, now Trisha has responded to Harry's complaint
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  in a new TikTok comment writing. I'm all for growth and change.
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  Shrug. As in saying, if you have
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  changed, if you have grown, I'm all for it and I don't hate you
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  anymore. I assume that's what I'm going
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  to assume. All right, the next three that I
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  have for you guys. I wanted to cover how Sabrina
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  Carpenter stood for Trans rights last night at the VMA's.
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  During her performance, Sabrina performed tears for the first
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  time at the VMA's and the performance was a very different
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  vibe from the short and sweet era.
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  It felt very like 90s, even the 80s, as opposed to kind of like
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  old Hollywood 1950, like Betty Boop.
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  It was giving like Christina Aguilera, dirty Britney Spears,
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  I'm a slave for you, that kind of vibe.
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  So Sabrina was joined by some of the world's most famous drag
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  Queens for the performance, most of whom have competed on various
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  seasons of Ru Paul's Drag Race. Through the performance, the
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  Queens were holding signs expressing support for the
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  LGBTQIA plus community and trans rights.
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  Some of the signs read Dolls Dolls.
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  Dolls protects trans rights. And if you hate you'll never get
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  laid, which is a reference to one of her new songs, Never
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  Getting Laid off Man's best friend, obviously.
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  Also, I need to say OK, like I said last time when we talked
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  about man's best friend, like Sabrina's music needs to
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  marinate for me for a minute. I am loving man's best friend.
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  Here are my favorite songs. Tears.
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  When did you get hot? Is that what it's called?
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  The song about getting hot House tour, Oh my God.
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  House tour. It's so Barbie movie house tour
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  is literally the best. Wait, I need to look.
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  What else do I love? My man on Willpower, Never
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  Getting Laid and Go Go Juice are like Tier 2 songs for me.
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  The other ones like I just mentioned are Tier 1.
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  I think Manchild might be Tier 2 for me as well.
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  I love a fun, happy song. I don't really like a slow song
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  usually. So yeah, I'm actually obsessed.
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  I think I like Man's best friend better than short and sweet.
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  Like for me the highs are higher and I do think unfortunately
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  though the lows are lower for man's best friend.
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  But I am loving like those 3 to 4 songs I am like on repeat.
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  So yes, her performance was obviously a form of advocacy for
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  trans rights, which was just amazing to see.
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  And you know, a lot of us, including myself, had some
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  criticism about the album cover. And a huge part of that
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  criticism was people saying like she hasn't aligned herself with
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  any type of advocacy super publicly at least that has made
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  this feel like justified for an album cover like that.
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  And I mean, I guess you don't, I understand you don't necessarily
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  need to always justify like art and stuff.
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  But regardless, that was part of the criticism.
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  Where is Olivia Rodrigo not to put them against each other?
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  This is just the first thing that came to in mind is that we
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  know that Olivia Rodrigo is very vocal about abortion rights and
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  that is something she aligns herself with and has for a very
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  long time in her career. And so I think even though
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  Sabrina did have a lot of activism around her short and
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  sweet tour, she has not seemingly aligned herself as a
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  public figure and her personal brand, if that makes sense.
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  I think this is a message to us. Like this is where I stand.
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  That album cover is not me. Like going down some like alt
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  right trad wife, conservative vibe.
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  I don't know. That's how I interpreted it.
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  But yeah, there was a lot of criticism that Sabrina
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  Carpenter, she's not political enough, I guess to pull off such
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  an edgy album cover. So I do feel like this is a
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  little bit of like a fuck you to show us where she stands.
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  OK, the next story that I have for you guys, I mean, to be
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  fair, it's not really a story. I don't really have much to say
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  about this, but Annabelle was like, you need to talk about
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  this on Mini. And I was like, OK, I will
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  because it has become such a crazy meme.
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  But essentially, travel influencer Brittany de Zola is
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  claiming that she was supposed to be travelling to Nice, France
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  and instead ended up booking and boarding a flight to Tunis,
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  Africa to Nice, Tunis. I don't know, I have no idea how
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  this happens. I mean, people are going insane
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  about this on TikTok. Like I said, they're meaning it
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  everywhere. It's really funny.
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  But there's also people who are like, this is honestly insane.
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  Like you boarded a flight that literally said Tunis Air.
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  There's also so many instances where your destination is
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  announced, like before you board, on your boarding pass,
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  when you get on the plane, all of that.
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  So this is from the TAB quote. Over the course of a whopping 25
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  tick tocks, the influencer really let her American show as
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  she stumbled her way through conversations with local airport
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  employees. Staff in the Tunis airport were
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  having none of it. After all, they still got on the
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  plane regardless of whether the original attendant had misheard
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  their intended destination. After what seemed like days in
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  the airport, she added in an update quote.
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  They're making us pay for a new flight saying we can't get on
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  the next one tonight. Everyone is rude.
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  Two men who are supervisors yelled in my face in tears.
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  So as a last resort I had to bring up my bestie chat and
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  found out about EU regulations and now they are taking us a bit
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  more seriously so we can get to Nice ASAP.
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  So yeah, the general consensus is people being like girl, just
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  because the attendant who was helping you book your flight
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  misunderstood when you said two niece.
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  Like there are still so many steps after that that should
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  have alerted you to the fact that you were going to a
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  completely different destination.
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  OK, the last story that I have for you guys is that Ashton
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  Earl's influencer post rate has allegedly been exposed on Reddit
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  and it is causing some interesting discussion.
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  So a Reddit post on NYC influencer snark has sparked a
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  lot of discussion as Ashton Earl's alleged rape.
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  Her post has been revealed. According to the post, the Earl
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  sisters have both raised their influencer rates recently, with
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  Ashton commanding $250,000 per single post.
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  Now, obviously a Reddit post is not necessarily a valid source,
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  so, you know, take this with a grain of salt.
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  But regardless, it is open to discussion about transparency
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  around influencer marketing because there is still this like
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  huge percentage of people, especially in the start
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  communities, who question how these creators fund their lavish
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  lifestyles. And they're so often accusations
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  of their parents paying their rent or credit card debt.
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  There's like tons of accusations that everybody's just living in
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  like credit card debt, but we actually really have like no
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  idea how much these influencers are being paid.
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  The industry is still very much like the Wild West and rates are
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  dependent on so many things, not just followers.
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  Like Ashton herself only has 1.2 million followers on TikTok.
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  There are so many influencers on TikTok that have over 1.2
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  million followers as well who are most likely not making
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  $250,000 per post. But she can command that for
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  various reasons, like her conversion rate might be really
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  high. I she's very in demand because
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  she's like a buzzy influencer right now.
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  The fact that she is the sister of arguably Tik Tok's like
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  biggest it girl at the moment. So her last name and her family
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  itself, they currently are very relevant and high profile in the
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  space. There are so many other reasons
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  why she might be able to command that, that obviously I'm not
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  saying that's necessarily right, You know, like should she or any
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  influencer be paid that amount of money for a sponsored post?
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  I mean, I think from an ethical perspective, when you think
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  about the fact that there are people who literally can't feed
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  their kids, no, of course not. But the reality is that they get
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  paid that because the value that they bring to brands is in
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  theory worth that. And I think as well, from
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  somebody who works on, you know, the media side of this industry,
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  these rates are not new. Like it's new that they're going
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  to a sole individual. But before influencer marketing
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  and paid social a $250,000 media brief, going to a publisher was
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  very average or even low for some brands.
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  I actually remember I had a mentorship meeting like years
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  ago with a founder who had built one of the most successful media
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  brands in all of Australia. He had left the industry, but he
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  had built it maybe like 15 years before Centennial launched.
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  So they were just before us. Like it was not, you know, this
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  wasn't like 50 years ago. This was like between 10 and 15
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  years before us. And he said to me like, stop
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  going after local Australian brands for advertising budgets.
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  Like you just need to get some multinational clients who will
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  give you like A300K brief, you know, every couple months.
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  And literally I laughed in his face and I was like, do you
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  think that's what the industry is still like?
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  Like that is absolutely absurd. The industry and how the money
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  is distributed now in advertising is just so
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  different. I mean, it's a little bit
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  different for us because we're like a podcast network.
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  We're more of like, we actually kind of often fall and influence
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  our budgets for brands. It's like in a way that they can
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  like work with us even if they don't have a media budget for a
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  specific campaign because they like want to work with us.
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  So we can kind of fall under both, which has been really
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  advantageous for us. But in general, like that is
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  honestly the reality of what this industry used to look like.
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  And other types of advertising like commercials, billboards,
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  product placements, like often cost way more than $250,000 per
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  deal. And you know, you can't track
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  conversions in the same way that you can with influencers.
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  So it is all relative. But I also understand that at
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  the end of the day, seeing that kind of money going to an
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  individual is jarring. And the fact that their audience
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  then gets to or has to, I guess, see that wealth kind of thrown
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  back in our faces. Sometimes that does feel a
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  little bit out of touch. And it can be hard to swallow
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  given, I mean, like everything going on in the world right now.
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  But yes, like influencers can make so much money, but it is
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  such a varied industry. All right, guys, that's it for
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  Mini Scroll today. Thank you so much for listening.
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  Annabelle will talk to you tomorrow and then I will talk to
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  you on Thursday. Bye.