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well as we did last week uh you weren't here for that Dan unfortunately and you
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haven't heard the episode yet but um as I explained one of the biggest
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complaints we've had not complaints but just suggestions was uh we introduce
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ourselves because particularly foreign listeners not familiar with the
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Australian accent um get us confused sometimes they think we all sound the
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same yeah so um well that is blatant racial discrimination I agree uh but since
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that's what we specialize in we should probably accommodate them yeah okay that's fair
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so my name is Matt I'm Luke and I'm Johnny [ __ ]
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Pig all right don't ever try to make me do something seriously it's just not
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going to happen that's I think you'll find that even more amusing when you
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listen to last week's episode
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yeah oh okay A bit of reverse
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foreshadowing fair enough welcome to multiple
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nerdgasm your destination for all things
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nerdy all right so it's good to have you back with us actually thank you good to
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be back we miss we missed you I think I was on a jungle island on the day that
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you recorded which is why I couldn't be part of it yeah that would have been
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nice pretty good excuse really look um it wasn't nice I'll be honest I've been
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to this island five times in the last two weeks it's um it's called Pula ubben
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it is a nice Island but it's very hot and very humid and and it's just a
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jungle um and when you arrive on the island you have to get there by boat as
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you do with most islands really um it really does look like Jurassic Park and
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not only that but while I was there I saw the largest lizard I've ever seen
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and I don't just mean a big lizard I'm talking like 2 m long lizard like a
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kimono dragon I thought I thought it was a
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crocodile uh and um is it was it was small Croc sized and it was just it
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crossed my path and um I just about wet myself so
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wow so maybe I was in Jurassic Park maybe I was we can only hope yeah so sorry I
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couldn't be here but I was in Jurassic Park it sounds like you're in the new
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Jurassic Park though where they've got all the Kinks worked out not the old one
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where it just all goes to [ __ ] you mean the new one where the Velociraptors
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actually help you and run alongside your bike yeah I I think this is going to be
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a boring film to be honest like they've got everything figured out the park open
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it's just businesses usual I don't know why they bothered making it to be honest
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I mean make the actual Park if it's all working now yeah why not I'll go and see
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the park but I don't want to watch a movie about nothing going wrong at
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Jurassic Park that's right I don't know well I guess we'll it remains to be seen
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maybe maybe something interesting will happen well the movie itself remains to
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be seen exactly so when's that out is
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that out September uh it's pretty soon I think I don't know July you're you're
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just throwing out months now no it's June July because Lego Jurassic Park
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comes out soon oh really yep Lego Jurassic Park comes out next month so it
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must be June it comes out okay I'm going to play the [ __ ] out
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of that speaking of Wonders of science we have discussed this before but I I
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just saw this article today and it's a it's a newer article it's from the 22nd
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um and it's about this guy this uh Italian surgeon who wants to do a head
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transplant yeah uh I don't know why they keep calling it that it's not a head
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transplant you can't transplant a head it's a body transplant so you're splitting hairs
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there Matt well half and half isn't it no it's not because you are your
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head right yeah I see I I see your distinction
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yeah so that that's the issue I take with the wording but this one is
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interesting in that um though should really call this an everything but a head
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transplant that's right exactly exactly so there's a few things about this
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article that um that caught my attention yeah um one is that they they somewhat
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more than than previously as far as I'm aware they describe uh kind of how the
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operation will go and that is um the operation will last about 2 days
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mhm first the patient's head will be cooled down and then
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removed it will then be attached to another body the spinal cords of patient
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and donor will be cut and the head will be moved across to be fused used
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together muscles and blood supply would then be attached and the patient would
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be left in a coma for about a month to prevent movement during this time the
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spine will be stimulated with electrodes to strengthen nerve connections
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so they're going to kill the person mhm and then move move his head yes to a
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different body well I mean is there a way to remove a head without killing
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someone that's not the part of this that surpris me is what I'm saying well this
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the thing that surprises me the most about it is in order to that're saying
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the head gets cooled down right so they're saying okay we're going to
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freeze the head I guess to freeze just cool down they need to basically slow
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down the blood supply well they need to stop they need
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to stop brain damage from occurring I assume which is the issue here now if
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they're able to do that successfully and Transplant this head I'll use their
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terminology for the sake of it mhm surely this translate to other areas for
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example if I have an
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illness um where you know uh say I'm
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dying of exactly then you could just pop my head on another body surely once this
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is perfected so um this is pretty interesting if he can do it I I
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mean really the most terrifying thing is going to be waking up with a different
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body attached to you yeah I mean the the president of the American Association of
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neurological surgeons has offered this quote um I would not wish this on anyone
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I would not allow anyone to do this to me this is a fate worse than death
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y um so that's a respected member of the scientific community's opinion here um
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and even even the surgeon himself has has claimed that this will be quote
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unimaginable consequences I think he meant it in a good way but I'm just not
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sure I mean at best we got Frankenstein
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[ __ ] here and at worst I don't know what well the the person that they've
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got who's volunteered for his surgery um I don't think he sees it as a fate worth
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and death I think he sees this as his last chance yeah cuz he's dying anyway
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so he figures I might as well but I mean look if I'm going to die anyway I might
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as well not become a Frankenstein and I want that to be heard by everyone
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listening all right that I might as well does not count here people have
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pychological issues having much less than their whole body transplanted like
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you get a new arm some people there've been cases where people have had to have
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their arm removed again and said I don't want it I don't want that arm I'd rather
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have no arm because it's there there's some psychological [ __ ] that goes along
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with it and I mean just waking up with a different body like I said it's not a
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head transplant it's a body transplant and the other thing that bugs me the
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most about this article is the final paragraph I'm going to read it out to
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you and this is this is the surgeon talking he also said people are worried
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the procedure will be confined to the rich one of the reasons behind the
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critics is that many wealthy people will want a new head as they will be the only
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ones who could afford the surgery right they can't have a new head this is the
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surgeon speaking the other thing that he says that's along that here we go we're
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one step closer to extem life indefinitely because I'll be able to
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give a new body to an 80-year-old that they could live with for another 40
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years yeah but the head will be 120 that's right it doesn't work like that
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that's right so the as soon as the brain begins to well I mean we don't really
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know what's going to happen I guess the person has Alzheimer we do
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know what will happen nothing because this is not possible there is so many
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millions of little [ __ ] nerve endings that would need to be connected up to
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the exact right nerve it will not work but just the fact that the surgeon
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himself can't grasp the concept that you can't just put a new head on somebody
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you are your head like that's where your brain is if you get a new head that
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means somebody else just has your body like I don't understand how the guy
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doing the surgery does understand the concept unless unless he thinks that I
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mean maybe maybe Consciousness doesn't reside in the head maybe I'm wrong but
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[ __ ] that's going to be confusing no the one thing I don't understand is they've
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got the guy who's volunteered to have his head transplanted where's the body
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coming from well uh I don't think they've said but I no and cuz I've read
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about this a bit before and they never talk about where this body's coming from
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I think I read an article that said it was coming from people that filled out
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the form but didn't pay the money for the Mars one uh
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oh yeah Kickstarter I mean someone who's died in an accident perhaps where the
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body is still viable I don't know yeah he's going to get one from somewhere
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it's just ah this is just really strange and I don't see how it can work and I
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especially don't based on the fact that the surgeon doesn't seem to understand
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how the human body works so I think if I want any quality
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in a surgeon that's it though isn't it understanding of how the human body
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works I it maybe we know too much and that's why we've never done it so I have
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heard of stories of this being successfully done before with monkeys
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yeah yeah live for a day or two I'll you it couldn't control the body no yeah I
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don't think successfully is the right word for that they managed to stop it dying straight
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away yeah they attempted it and they managed to keep a freak alive for a
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whole day yeah and if monkeys could speak English it would be yelling kill
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me kill me now that's the other thing right if if you're able to drop
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someone's head off put it on a new body and then using um how does he how do he
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how does it get word oh the spine will be stimulated with electrodes to strengthen nerve
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connections right well why not try that on a paraplegic first cuz apparently
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that's a [ __ ] miracle you're able to perform now yeah and like slowing down
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the bluff all of that it's like yeah maybe you should work on each of these
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individual things first that individually could have quite an impact
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on medical science right and then work on your sci-fi stuff
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later no all in all in why not [ __ ] head transplant I this is going to bring
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all sorts of uh crazy moral dilemas though too isn't it I mean what if I
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want my head put on a person's
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body you know what if I want to run fast and have an enormous [ __ ] you know until
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I'm like [ __ ] it head transplant black body what if you wake what if you what
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if you're really racist and you wake up and they've done that and you're like
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it's been a mistake yeah and they're like well nothing we can do now no and
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I'll be like well you're wrong because I've seen you do it once do it again yeah
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again could a man's head be put on a woman's body and then would he have to
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take a 30% pay cut or you just come back after 30 days
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and you're like look it's within the warranty period I'm just not really not
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happy with this one can I exchange it for something else something a bit muser
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perhaps down here yeah this is yeah this is weird yeah could be like
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listen listen I need the new body but I'm quite attached to my old penis
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could I keep the dick could you do a dick transplant onto the body and then a
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head transplant onto the body look uh I'm I'm I'm I'm happy to be getting a
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new body but I don't want my wife [ __ ] some other guy so we going to
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have to get my dick on this body will he be able to feel it the guy whose head
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used to belong this [Laughter]
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[ __ ] well we have two years to wait we do we do and speaking of uh of
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Consciousness and uh and things like that they kind of bring
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around to something I wanted to talk about which is a
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film that I asked you both to watch by the name of chappie yeah and I did okay
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all right fact I finished it about half an hour ago you
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think did you think Luke I didn't mind it but I think they skipped major parts
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of the story to probably to cut it down okay CU there some bits I'm just going
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how did they jump from that to that okay and what did you think Dan
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how much time have we got I just we've got plenty of time I am baffled by Blum
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cam I'm absolutely [ __ ] baffled by him because he is such a such an amazing
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thinker and he conceptualizes these wonderful things but he just can't write
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and direct to save his [ __ ] life like this movie was I mean for starters I I
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don't know how he pitched this um to Executives other than maybe saying have
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you ever watched that C3PO from Star Wars was in
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Robocop like I tell you actually I do know a sort of how the pitch went um and
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it was something like here's the story yeah it's like RoboCop um blah blah AI
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events you know puts it into the body of this this um robot and they went oh that
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sounds really good that's really good and he's like right okay cool and now um
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one other thing we need to cover uh guys come on in um please meet ninja and
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Yolandi yeah who will be playing themselves but also their band exists in the
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universe cuz that's the only music they listen to and their C covers are on the
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wall it's [ __ ] baffling they're even wearing their own t-shirts in some I
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know y he addressed that somewhat he said and I think this is his explanation
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is that in in his head the movie actually takes place in a world where
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they were the band at one point M um and they're so
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narcissistic that like because they are just they're just their characters
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because I mean Ian I believe ninja and Yolandi are they're characters in that
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band like they're not that's not they're not real people they're they're they're
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people portraying those and they're very very rich people
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portraying those [ __ ] squalled people that's right and so they're basically
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playing they are their characters from D
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the in the film yeah so I don't know I I
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I really liked it the film I I can see what people didn't like about it and
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they're they're right like it's very flawed but I really liked it I really
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enjoyed it I do have one question though is s weer Now typ
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cast in every single movie I've seen her in lately she's playing this executive
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that's sort of single-minded she's playing the same character now um um
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Cabin in the Woods um even Paul she
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played the same character it's true yeah but not only that that character was
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basically also just the character from blong Camp's previous film there just
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always got to be this power hungry woman it's just it's like that Blom Camp comes
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up with great ideas and then just the dialogue in this movie was like the [ __ ]
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I was writing in high school that I'm now embarrassed to read like there's no
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subtext in his films it's just every character just says what they're
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thinking all the time and right from the start too and there's this really weird scene
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where the [ __ ] Dev Patel character says to
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to chappie I don't want you to do this I don't want you to do that and I don't
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want you to do that but most importantly I don't want you to listen to people
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when they tell you you can't do stuff it's like what is somebody reading this
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script back with a red pen like it really reeks of a first draft
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there are that many plot holes and there's just so much good in this movie
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which made made me so angry that I wasn't enjoying it because if a movie is
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just [ __ ] that's fine I can watch and enjoy a [ __ ] movie but a movie that is
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striving to be something better but that tries in some ways and then just doesn't
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try in other ways just it's the worse for me I can't stand it anyway let's me
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how where did you stop at what point did you stop oh I stopped we're going to
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talk about spoilers I guess so maybe it's fine look quite honestly here's
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here's my day this morning I went to watch chappie and I realized I had
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downed so I started watching another movie that had downloaded called Only
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Lovers Left Alive the Vampire movie and I turned that off so that I could watch
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chappie and after this after this I'm going to watch the the second half of
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Only Lovers Left Alive put it that way so you can spoil chappy all you want
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because quite honestly I I don't know if I'm going to watch the end at what point
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did you stop happen they're teaching him to use nunchucks did you see where did you see
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what the the car theft stuff and all that I thought those were the funniest bits
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no no no no no when he they teach they
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teach cuz you know that he his maker okay so for listeners who don't know the
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film is about uh it's set in South Africa all of his films all of Neil Blum
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Camp's films are set in South Africa and it's in the near future and there's a
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robot police force called they're called Scouts and they uh kind of take over the
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dangerous job of of [ __ ] upholding the law in in South Africa because
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there's all these gangs and stuff uh and then the guy who invented the the
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scouts comes up with an AI uh and he wants to put it in one of the robots to
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test it out but so going says no we don't want that we want these robots
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because the police are giving us a lot of money for these robots we don't want
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something perfect and smart we want more of these robots please so we can have
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more money and so he steals the body of
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one of the robots uh puts the AI in it he steals the body of the robot because
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their security is so LAX you a can steal a robot B when they realize you have
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stolen it they ring you and say can you please return that by the end of the day
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or I'll have to tell your supervisor I like there's a few things like that that
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I know that it sounds silly but it was kind of made me laugh and I I didn't you
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know like at least they addressed it like for example he's clearly shown like
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they make a point of showing him on video camera like security camera
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stealing the robot and and at times bringing him back and like sneaking in
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and out and just no one gives a [ __ ] like they make it pretty clear that that
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this is a this is a real company where no one gives a [ __ ] like he's he's
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clearly captured on video camera stealing equipment stealing [ __ ]
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Robots coming back at one point shot and like sneaking the robot in and stuff
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like that like all sorts of silly stuff like that I don't know I felt like it
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had its tongue in its cheek a lot about that kind of stuff and um and so yeah he
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puts the AI on the robot but then he he gets kidnapped well he and the robot get
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kidnapped by uh by diw um and they want to make the
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robot into a gangster robot so that they can um get enough money to pay back the
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big drug dealer that they owe money to and then uh the advertising made it seem
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like it was going to be kind of an existential thing about you know life of
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robots and you know whether an AI is a human that kind of stuff but it's mostly
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about ninja and Yolandi trying to make a gangster robot like that's mostly what
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it's about and yeah the bit that I thought was the funniest is because his
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his maker the I can't remember his name character's name now de character um he
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tells him you can't hurt people and you're know you're know allow to use
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guns you're not allow to kill people and you're not allowed to commit crimes and
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so ninja tells him that people keep stealing his cars and so he needs him to
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help get him back and teaches him to carjack people and so it's this just
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this hilarious sequence where he's like like ripping people out of cars and like
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you shouldn't steal at them and like stealing their cars it's very funny I
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liked it and then later on they teach him that um cuz he's not allowed to hurt
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people they he's not all to shoot people but he doesn't know what a knife is and
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so they teach him that knives make people go sleepy time and um have him
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stab the security guards uh guarding this armored vehicle and he yelling you
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go to sleep now and like stabbing them I know it just made me laugh see like it
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it's all very charming and this idea of this kind of powerful robot with the
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mind of a child who's still learning and all it's it's a beautiful metaphor you
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know and it's and there's so much and the visuals of this movie are so great
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as well like it's shot immaculately and this robot is just amazing yeah the the
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CG is like but then you've got clawless you've
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got Hugh Jackman right yeah his character was hilarious and I I couldn't
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work out like why is an Australian actor doing a fake Australian
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accent yeah and say and saying things like um oh he's dumber than he's D
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dumber than a dunny rat and I was like I know you Jackman doesn't talk
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like that and I know he knows Australians don't talk like that I know
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but his character was so ridiculous like like pulling that gun in the office and
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they go n it's just a prank his character was the same character from um
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RoboCop yeah exactly exactly and it's another example of where clearly this is
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not a world where people care about that kind of stuff cuz yeah he pulls a gun on
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him and then later on I don't know did you see the scene where you know he's
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built that big the it's basically Ed 209 209 he's built Ed 209 the Moose so he's
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built his his answer to the crime problem was this giant robot with
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[ __ ] rocket launchers and it's got giant shears for cutting people in half
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which one thing I didn't understand even when he's trying to sell it to the
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police they're going we don't need this that was one of my favorite scen I did like
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for Army he is well over the top it's got service missiles it's got uh
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bazooka what do we want that for and this is here to stop Petty crimes right
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yeah we've got uh some bank robberies and he's like yep surface to a
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missiles I don't know I I thought he was pretty F and then you didn't you
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wouldn't have seen the end but he goes [ __ ] psycho at the end sure he does
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I'm sure he does no it's not that I didn't like it I don't want to come
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across like I don't like it it's just there's so much to like and so much that
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I just literally don't get like I just feel like I'm not in on a joke or
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something it's definitely not a you know it does ask some interesting questions
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but it doesn't answer them yeah and that's fine but it was I felt the same
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watching this as I felt watching Avatar where I'm like all of the components to
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an amazing movie are here why isn't this making an amazing
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movie yeah cuz the other thing I mean there's stuff in this that would
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normally pissed me off in a film but I don't know why for some reason I didn't
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mind it in this like for example you wouldn't have seen this either I don't
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think but later on chappie figures out how to transfer Consciousness right
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that's what I was about to bring up cuz that part that part annoys me cuz that
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made no sense how he just I can do this now he he gets there's a the Moose the
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big the big robot hu Jackman's robot is controlled via that interface where he
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puts the helmet on and he controls it with his mind right so it's it's a
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neural interface and so chappie takes takes one of those interface things the
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helmets and he hooks it up to a bunch of PlayStation fours and um and write
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software that can save State basically your Consciousness so it can take a
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imprint of your Consciousness your you know yeah basically and save it onto a
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USB stick right and while he's doing all this he still thinks that stabbing
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people just sends him to sleep yeah and
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so later on he um he transfers his Consciousness into a new body when he's
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about to to his batter is about to go flat but not only that the same device
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Works to transfer humans and so that there's two cases where that happens and
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uh normally that would piss me off because that just doesn't make any sense
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like and first of all I should be clear about that transfers human consciousness
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into one of the robots right which yeah so I mean if it
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doesn't make any sense so if you if you wanted if you wanted hard sci-fi this is
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not it no well even at one what at the start of the movie they sort of point
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out he's only got 5 days worth of power and they made a point of at the start
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and then never mention that again oh they did they they mentioned that his
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battery's fused in and he can't change yeah but they never really there was no
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real oh my God he's going to die right until the end when yeah when he just did
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yeah I I assumed that was going to be a big part of it was it they've got a a
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time limit on it did that just not into it no okay no no no I mean I like you
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recharge battery your phone oh no no he he can't recharge the battery no no but is
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a in when he transfers to new robot like it's no oh yeah yeah yeah right his his
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body robot yeah his body is conveniently broken in a way that means that he will
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die and therefore yeah is it makes it like Blade Runner sure yeah but the one
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thing I didn't quite understand at the end cuz Yolanda gets shot yeah but he's
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already made a backup of her yeah and so they're going to bring her back to life
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with this backup but that's not her yeah every other conscious transfer they did
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it was instantaneous that body dies that went there see that's another
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interesting thing and we're not I mean we're not going to solve that that's a
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existential problem where it's like the teleportation thing in
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um in the prestige where if you are just
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a copy well you're not the same person but you wouldn't know that you weren't
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the same person and so like so long as you're the one that survives
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it doesn't matter well it's like you know a teleporter Works in theory by
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pulling your body to pieces and then reassembling it on the other end out of
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the same types of pieces and then hopefully that's still you but it might
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not be for all we know the person that was you is dead now and if they ever
26:47
actually invent a teleportation device it will instantaneously disprove all
26:53
religion sure instantly and with no argument with no argument with
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whatsoever like if if you can if you can rebuild a human exactly the same and
27:03
they still have the thoughts of feelings emotions then than they used to with new
27:07
particles then that just means there is no such thing as a soul yeah I mean look
27:13
we know that already but yeah cuz another question along those lines is if
27:18
you're say you live out a day right yeah and then you have an accident where you
27:24
lose the memory of that day and so as far as you're awake you wake up the next
27:29
day um and you don't remember the day that happened before at alled so you
27:33
didn't you didn't learn any lessons but your body you still experien that are you the same
27:38
person well there's also an interesting thing like when you look at a photo of
27:42
yourself um so if I look at a photo of myself from Sydney for example that
27:48
picture that I took with Terry smallo just before I left yep um is that me
27:53
because that person has never been to Singapore and I live in Singapore
27:58
sure so that that can't be the same person as I am and the other thing is
28:04
too actually uh you know like we're talking transferring Consciousness from
28:07
one body to another um you know we saying people have said oh you can't do
28:12
that and I I would question whether that's feasible but I mean we once a day
28:18
most of us uh are not conscious for for many hours like you go
28:24
to sleep like I mean what the [ __ ] what happens then like well not only that but
28:29
every 5 years your cells completely replace themselves oh yeah so you don't
28:35
have any cell in your body except uh Luke and I do because we have tattoos um
28:41
but they don't replicate but every every other cell in your body was not there 5
28:47
years ago yeah right so anyway chappie uh n out of 10 it doesn't really delve
28:52
into any of that stuff but it does touch on it and it and in discussions about it
28:56
online uh cuz I I don't know found it I liked it and I wanted to see what other
28:59
people thought of it because I know that it didn't get good reviews but I really
29:02
enjoyed it and I I I mean I can see why people didn't and I I do agree it's got
29:06
some weird [ __ ] in it it's not um I don't know as well thought out as
29:13
it could have been yeah that's all it is it's not the weird [ __ ] me it just it
29:17
just needed to be more thought out as you said and bl C baffles me because
29:23
District 9 is amazing and District 9 is all those things it's a
29:31
he pige himself as this guy that robots AFA movies fine if that's your Niche and
29:37
you want it to be that then that's fine because that's really cool but he's
29:41
proven himself to be a onetick wonder and a onetick pony all all at the same
29:45
time and it's so weird like when you
29:49
develop a niche and then you can't even stay on track within your own Niche
29:54
that's just I don't know it's worrying well we'll see how he does with
29:59
the the new alien because that's happening now apparently so look I'll
30:02
watch the end of it I'll watch the end maybe maybe once I've seen some funny
30:07
car ceiling stuff I'll I'll change my
30:09
tune all right um the other thing uh apparently I don't know whether this is
30:15
true or not because again I don't know how much is how much of anything is true
30:18
with these people I mean Ninja and Yolandi um the rumors that
30:23
onet uh Ninja in particular caused a lot of problems and uh one of the actors
30:29
this is true because I've seen an interview with him um you the guy who
30:32
played hippo the guy they owe the money to yeah yeah uh he hates him hates ninja
30:38
and says that he'll he'll never work with him again and uh and that when
30:41
somebody like that wants to come and tell him how to do his job uh he just
30:44
doesn't have time for him um wow and there was also there was an article
30:48
written that said that the that they um they were just trying to tell all the
30:52
actors how to how to act and and they were um they were saying that they were
30:56
vegans and they wouldn't eat any of food they wouldn't eat with any of the other
30:59
cast but then they would go into town and just go like get fish and chips or
31:03
something and uh and then so everyone B apparently everyone had the shits with
31:07
them but then uh I read another interview with Neil Blom Camp who said
31:11
that that they got along fine and he he he was it's his idea to bring them into
31:16
the film and you know their friends his wife and him have dinner with them all
31:21
the time uh and then there was an interview with Ninja that said no that's
31:24
a lot of crap people just kind of L on to the fact that our characters are are
31:31
like that they think they like to to play that up and say that we're like
31:35
that but you know we get along with everybody and I don't know I just don't
31:40
know I find them interesting I maybe that's another reason that I like the
31:42
film is because I just find them interesting yeah I find them interesting
31:45
too I mean I have all their albums and I've they work with a lot of great
31:48
directors on their music videos and stuff and I I find I do find them interesting I
31:54
just it it wasn't even that they were bad
31:58
they they were perfectly good they were good as anybody else they like they were
32:02
as good as sigoni Weaver's terrible performance do you know what I mean like
32:07
sure that's just the thing it's like it's like a complex Story dumbed down to
32:13
the point where this reads like a kids movie which would be fine except that
32:17
the characters constantly say [ __ ] in both English and Africans do you know
32:23
what I mean and it's like yeah who is this for sure Matt tell me it's a
32:30
parody and then I'll you know what I mean like tell me that I'm supposed to
32:34
be thinking like this I think yeah I think it's supposed to be more like
32:37
RoboCop than maybe people thought you know like cuz RoboCop has a lot of these
32:44
same problems except it's quite obviously like well RoboCop's a satire
32:49
in itself that's what I mean so I think maybe this was intended to be more like
32:53
that than than than we realize or people yeah than maybe even it it really you
33:00
know makes it apparent that it is yeah like I don't know I think it should if
33:04
it was going down that way it should have actually gone for it not yeah
33:08
you're probably right I mean looking back on it the more I think about it the
33:12
like I it's the silly bits and the and the fun and the the high Jinks that I
33:17
remember about it fondly like thinking about it again like I I would watch it
33:21
again I really enjoyed it and but it's not like I said it's not a hard science
33:25
fiction film and it's not the thought-provoking stuff in it that I
33:30
enjoyed it's the goofy sure um characters and the action and the and
33:36
you know the funny the funny stuff you know yeah yeah but if they set it up to
33:40
be like yeah but that's what I mean if they set that up I could have just went
33:45
back and relaxed and watched it instead of kind of making me think at the start
33:49
that this was going to be something that it wasn't yeah you probably probably
33:54
right I'll watch the end yeah watch even just for hug Jackman going crazy and Mur
34:00
people the action sequence is pretty good I think well I mean if the one
34:03
thing that Blum does well it's action sequences yeah there's some good stuff
34:07
there so so I assume Jackman's in the [ __ ] Mech at the end is he yeah well
34:12
this is the weird thing he's not in the mech he controls the mech right yeah
34:16
also it's a bit funny too because she goes because stuff he he sabotages the
34:21
Scouts and then things start going haywire and then he goes bursts in the
34:25
office and he's like [ __ ] let me let me let me use the moose let me get the
34:28
Moose out this is what I've been waiting for this is this is the this is the
34:30
Moose moment mhm and so she's like fine use the Moose to take down that robot
34:36
chappie and he goes right and then just tries to [ __ ] murder everybody
34:42
yeah it's great I do like his mullet it's ridiculous I do like they've
34:48
gone how do we portray this guy like an absolute fuckt without having to say
34:53
anything I know he's got a mullet we'll give him a mullet I'm sorry I think
34:57
that's another thing that should have committed to a bit more should be more
35:01
of a mullet more mullets more mullet you've got to have a mullet get a real
35:05
one well I suppose y's got quite a mullet going on yeah she
35:11
does well new Blum Camp you're our geek of the week
35:17
yeah of the [Music]
35:22
week hello did that cut out or did I cut out did did you guys even hear that
35:26
where is Matt dead I think Matt went away oh Matt hang on
35:31
hang on you're week every
35:35
week of the
35:39
week oh can you hear me too little too late Matt we've moved on yeah can you
35:46
hear me yeah we can [ __ ] hear you now we can oh what the [ __ ] happened I don't
35:50
know but when you finally did kick back in it was kind of at the same point that
35:54
you left halfway through the geek of the weak jingle which makes Mak me think
35:58
that you actually lost some time buddy maybe I
36:03
did was that weird for you too Luke it was
36:08
cuz cuz it was like no no no stop doing it stop doing it it's freaking me out I
36:14
needed to play through through then you disappeared for about 30 seconds and
36:18
then it came back and finished oh it was like oh
36:23
man Matt look at your iPhone what does
36:26
the time say what do the exact time 1011
36:30
uh no that's what I've got as well so speaking of Science Fiction um MH mhm
36:37
there's another a big film coming out at the end of the year by the name of Star
36:41
Wars episode 7 never Force awakens no not aware of that no all right well
36:47
that's fair enough but um Little Indie movie is it yeah yeah you never heard of
36:52
the Star Wars prequels the Star Wars no I haven't heard of that no okay well
36:56
that's awkward because uh I remember I don't know if you recall I did interview one of the
37:03
stars of the prequels uh sometime ago oh um JJ Binks that's him that's him yeah
37:09
yeah um well I managed to secure another exclusive interview oh oh yeah um this
37:15
time with uh with an actor by the name of Anakin Skywalker
37:19
oh yeah he he is Anakin meod actor it's a conceit for the for the purpose of
37:25
this interview so it's kind of like Yol ninja exactly right exactly yeah so it's
37:30
it's Anakin Skywalker playing himself yeah exactly in the Star Wars
37:35
movies so yeah exactly uh and he agreed
37:38
to do an interview um so uh it's pretty exciting it didn't quite go as planned
37:45
um but I mean it's probably worth worth playing anyway because um well you'll
37:51
see why yeah we'll be the judge um all right here we go Mr Skywalker thanks for joining me
37:57
you're shorter than I expected well I'm
38:01
sitting down why I was going to
38:06
interview you for the podcast I
38:09
understand okay okay um please take a
38:13
seat yes thanks again for agreeing to be on the show um could you tell us a
38:18
little bit about your experience working on the Star Wars prequels don't ask me to do
38:22
that it's like that is it got some stories you could tell us no
38:28
right you you really just don't want to
38:32
talk about it why are you asking this of me well it's the reason I asked you to
38:38
come on the show you said you said you'd be willing to come on and discuss the
38:41
Star Wars films and you said so sorry what do you don't don't drink that don't
38:48
worry no really that's Terry's moonshine and I'm not sure it's for human
38:52
consumption just intoxicated yeah I'm sure it is you all right well you've
38:58
drunk the whole bottle that's just great he's going to [ __ ] kill me I want
39:01
more you can't have more why because it's not mine it's Terry's and he's a
39:06
[ __ ] psycho you can't have anymore it's unfair what how old are you what
39:12
did you say you're acting like a spoiled teenager I've given up trying to argue
39:16
with you get get out of the cupboard there isn't any more of it in there liar
39:20
well I didn't know it was there like I said it's not mine if you're suffering
39:24
as much as I am please tell me what well I mean this isn't the best
39:29
interview I've ever done but it's not fair what are you doing don't worry
39:33
don't pour that on what you're covered in it what are you what the [ __ ] are you
39:37
doing the Jedi turned against me don't you turn against me why did you say that
39:42
like it's a question what are you going to put no put the lighter down don't
39:47
don't do that I will be the most powerful Jedi ever what the [ __ ] you're
39:51
a [ __ ] psycho put the lighter down Jesus Christ he's on fire you
39:54
underestimate my power [ __ ] Maniac [ __ ] I need to I need to call the fire
39:59
brigade I hate you yeah hello yeah fire
40:04
department what yeah sure yeah I I'll hold yeah I'll
40:13
hold and that was uh was Anakin Skywalker oh Matt you've excelled
40:17
yourself star of the Star Wars freels so
40:22
um in his final interview oh man I wonder if he's going
40:28
to the same Heaven that that dwarf that I interviewed that set himself a light
40:32
went to could be could be I like to think they're together
40:38
now speaking of that um we had someone
40:42
send in
40:45
uh send a little picture as part of our
40:50
capture mystical creature competition what Darcy sent us in a picture of a a
40:56
little guy who was is uh looking for some pets yeah out in the wild oh yeah I
41:02
remember that thanks Darcy yeah man good
41:07
show we need more we need more of them um that was a good catch it was a good
41:12
catch in fact that's the second pet store [ __ ] sighting that we've had on
41:16
this show the other one yeah was a staff member of a pet shop so now we've seen
41:23
both sides of it dwarves buying pets dwarves selling pets
41:28
pets but we haven't seen a dwarf pet
41:31
yet as in a dwarf that is the pet of
41:35
someone like a dwarf rabbit so listeners get on to that get on to that yeah if
41:42
you do happen to see uh a dwarf or any other mystical creature like a for you
41:47
know like Mr tumus out out you know may he's at the Vivid Festival in Sydney um
41:53
it's getting specific and you yeah well why not capture a picture of him send uh
41:58
send it in podcast at multipl nerdgasm tocom M nerdgasm on Twitter multiple
42:03
nerdgasm on Facebook uh we're on Google Plus somewhere um [ __ ] 4 on Snapchat
42:10
send uh pictures of dicks I believe you've gotten some dick pics Luke thanks
42:14
Behemoth I was going to say a listener told me that they sent you some dick
42:19
pics got a couple of dick pics from Behemoth now Behemoth I mean that sounds
42:23
like a big dick
42:28
but I want the opposite I want dwarf dicks sent to my Snapchat okay so all
42:34
right what is your Snapchat I don't know it's probably just my name isn't it let
42:37
me see why does everyone know what they are I don't even think I have you on
42:42
step chat Well mine's just the same as what it is on everything everyone like
42:46
mine's not hard to find listeners in fact if you can guess what mine is send
42:49
me a snap uh you'll win a prize I don't know what it is yet but um but do it and
42:54
then we'll we'll figure it out
42:59
all right I think I just won a prize as soon as that comes
43:04
through all right awesome it was this easiest prize I've ever had to [Laughter]
43:10
win no not as easy as Luke who entered our big head mode competition the other
43:16
week even though that was the first literally the first entry was from Luke
43:21
oh really so and I was right you got the you got the question right Luke you did
43:26
yeah you other people L family got the question right I
43:29
noticed yeah that's true I wonder how they got the answer it's all I didn't
43:33
tell anyone no I just like that we've got listeners and speaking of listeners
43:37
um this week it was uh Comic Con in London and um Simon The Unofficial fifth
43:44
member of our podcast oh yeah yeah uh was there representing a multim orgasm in his I
43:50
summon hoodie yeah so uh thanks Simon
43:54
shout out to you and speaking of I summon uh those of you who backed us on
44:00
the kickstarter you'll already have seen it uh will have sent the link out and
44:03
the rest of you you get to see it soon I think you get to see it in a week
44:09
of listening to this episode if you listen to it on the day it gets released
44:12
that's right otherwise maybe it's already out but anyway we we did it it's
44:16
it's ready and uh you'll have it soon and uh just briefly if if you want to
44:21
support the show U we don't have another Kickstarter at the moment but if if you
44:24
like the podcast and you'd like to hear us do more segments and more funny
44:27
things like interview more Star Wars characters or other silly [ __ ] like that
44:32
uh you can back us on patreon um you can offer to to backers for you know a
44:37
couple of bucks an episode or something like that you can set a maximum amount
44:40
every month and uh and help support the show and we pledged on there we'll do
44:45
we'll do more segments and and more things I need to fix that up actually
44:48
maybe fix up the reward tiers a bit uh so I'll try and get that done by the
44:51
time this goes out and uh and come on everybody let's all band together and uh
44:56
and make us rich I want to give you guys I want to give stuff out again but I
45:00
want I don't want to I want to get some money back for it
45:03
first more prizes more prizes but you want the listeners to pay for it well
45:10
it's expensive to send [ __ ] all right yeah I know it is it
45:14
is well speaking of Kickstarter there were a couple of big kickstarters lately
45:21
and it's it kind of revealed something about Kickstarter in particular indie
45:25
games on Kickstarter that I thought was interesting um there was an article on
45:29
polygon about it um I don't know if you guys recall we talked about this Peter
45:33
mullu a bit yeah um about how he uh when they put their game on Kickstarter they
45:40
they low balled it because they wanted to just make sure they get some money
45:45
and then they'd figure it out later even though it's not even remotely enough
45:47
money to make a game right and apparently that's happening a lot uh one
45:52
example is there's a new game blood stain which is uh made by the people in
45:57
made Castlevania the original 2D
45:59
Castlevania um and they asked for uh I
46:05
think what $500,000 originally um however in their
46:11
defense they were pretty transparent about it he said um they have got
46:16
Publishers ready to give him the the other $7 million or whatever it takes to
46:21
actually make the game but he had to prove that there was a market for it
46:25
okay okay well the kickstarter the $500,000 for the kickstarter was was
46:30
supposed to do that except on the kickstarter there's kind of a breakdown
46:34
of where the money is going to go and all this kind of stuff and what some of
46:37
these Indies are saying is when they do [ __ ] like this in accurate yeah yeah
46:42
because basically what they're doing is they're saying we can make this big AAA title for
46:47
$500,000 and so when these Indies come on and they want to make a smaller game
46:51
and they need you need I mean you need money to make a game let's be realistic
46:54
people I don't know what the I don't even I don't see what the problem is
46:57
people want you know $10 $20,000 to make an indie game and people are questioning
47:02
them on where the money's going because they think that this game got made for
47:06
$500,000 it didn't it cost them it's going to cost like 7 or8 million to make
47:10
that game yeah and the $500,000 on
47:14
Kickstarter is just to get publisher
47:18
interest so when when an indie T an indie gets on there and says they need
47:24
you know1 $200,000 to make a game don't question then that's how much it costs
47:28
like think about how much you get paid right a year and then think about how
47:33
long it takes to make a game like a year to two years or whatever and then do the
47:38
maths and yeah and whatever it whatever you get paid times two plus more money
47:44
because you have to pay for other stuff that's how much it gain
47:48
costs yeah like I I don't see why's so difficult about yeah that's fair I know
47:52
because i' I've actually backed a few games on Kickstarter and I have a look
47:56
at it and yeah it might look like they're asking for a lot but I know
47:59
they're not no because it's when you think about it it's a big chunk of time
48:05
and and it costs money like yeah it's not it's money that they need money to
48:11
live off that's right they need to draw a salary so they can pay their rent buy
48:17
food and everything they also need to buy equipment they might need to get
48:20
other people to help work on it and hire them like it's yeah I don't know what
48:24
people are thinking well here's the thing kick start is just supposed to be
48:28
like a platform for pre-sales right so it's not supposed to be this kind of
48:33
weird magical illusive thing it's supposed to be we're going to make this
48:37
game if you all buy it now before we've made it then we'll have the money to make
48:42
it but that's that's not always the nuts and bolts of it especially if you've got
48:48
a studio who's going oh I'm going to give you $7 million well it's not
48:52
necessarily pre-sale either because you you on Kickstarter in theory you should
48:57
be paying more than it would cost you to buy the game because you're also funding
49:00
the development of the game not just the um you're not just buying the game like
49:04
for example I mean we learned a lot with um with I summon right by the time we
49:09
got the money from Kickstarter they took the fees out by the time we fulfilled
49:12
all the backer Rewards well there wasn't any money left there was literally no
49:16
money left yeah and and if it wasn't for the fact that we already had had you and
49:21
the skills and and the various other skills that we had we had the ability to
49:24
make it um anyway but we were able to make it better and we were able to have
49:29
some cool um you know merch for the for the backers and stuff but it wasn't like
49:33
we got pizza yeah yeah we didn't go out and just spend 500 bucks on on no we
49:38
didn't you know a Lamborghini yeah we didn't even spend 500 bucks on [ __ ]
49:43
video equipment we no that's right we spent 500 bucks on having a
49:48
Kickstarter yeah we spent 500 bucks on getting everybody the [ __ ] that they
49:53
asked for in the kickstarter because we were a bit naive about it it costs money
49:56
to organ all that [ __ ] yeah like and so I don't know like there's this Indie
50:02
developer and they said they worked out how much it would cost them to make the
50:05
game fulltime and they're like there's no way people are going to give us that
50:10
on Kickstarter they're just going to give a [ __ ] about it so what they said
50:13
was if we were to do this in our spare time how much money would we need to buy
50:17
the licenses and the art assets and all that kind of stuff uh about 10 grand all
50:22
so they made a Kickstarter for 12 Grand because Kickstarter takes a percentage
50:26
Yeah and then still people were like what do you want so much money for hey
50:32
but here's the thing [ __ ] off don't what why I just don't understand why you
50:36
would even criticize if this is not something you want to put money into
50:39
don't do it you know what I mean like nobody criticizes the stock market in
50:44
this way like nobody goes why would you buy shares in oil like you just wouldn't do
50:50
it you know I just don't understand the
50:54
criticism at all the
50:59
is it's video games in particular it seems like it's something about Gamers
51:03
that just like to [ __ ] win I think the the big companies doing this stuff
51:08
where they they lowball it so that they get attention and then they move it onto
51:13
a publisher to get the real money I I think Kickstarter needs to do something
51:16
about it because it is clearly it's causing a problem where people
51:22
undervalue like the what it the game like how how much it cost to make a game
51:27
like if if we were going we we've talked about making a multiple nerdgasm video
51:31
game right and if if if we were going to quit our jobs and work on that like I
51:37
reckon it could take 6 months to a year right and we could make something y y
51:43
right not for $10,000 no no like if I said we got 10
51:47
grand guys quit your jobs you'd be like [ __ ] off that's right look and here's
51:51
the thing if you pay 30 50 80 bucks for a game
51:57
right in the store all you care about is whether you enjoy the game or not you
52:02
never once ask or have any way of finding out what that game cost as soon
52:07
as you know what it cost to make then suddenly your expectations are skewed by
52:13
that number you know and and I think that that is that is
52:18
damaging yeah yeah totally I mean I've got this weird thing happening right now
52:23
it's the same thing with my film we made a feature film for less than 20 Grand
52:27
which is a lot lot of money out of your pocket but it's not much money when
52:30
you're speaking about a fidget film and we have half the people giving us the
52:34
advice of oh my God you need to tell everybody that this cost so little so
52:38
that they like take that into consideration when they watch it so that
52:43
they'll be more impressed by it we have half the people telling us no no no you
52:46
need to tell people you spend a million dollars on this so that they believe you
52:50
cuz that's what it normally costs to make this so that when they buy it off
52:53
you that's what they give you yeah right yeah yeah like [ __ ] knowing the back
52:59
end of everything it just creates these weird conundrums and I think Kickstarter
53:04
is just bringing that all out with games especially like who cares if car if a
53:10
game cost half a million bucks did you like the game that's right who [ __ ]
53:16
cares that's the problem is that you're making you're you're getting these
53:20
people who who want to who get want their fingers in the business like I I
53:24
mean nerds on the internet clearly are
53:28
how do we say fickle and uh yeah and
53:32
like they like to medal in things and so when you give them access to your game
53:39
like at the front end like then they're going to they're going to be a pain in
53:44
the ass potentially yeah you know yeah like it's kickstarters created this
53:49
environment where yeah exactly people think they know what something costs but
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they don't really because again like people were complaining oh why do you
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need more than $200 to pay someone to make music for the game and then for me
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that's like particularly insulting it's like [ __ ] AAA title you want like
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hours and hours of Music 200 bucks [ __ ] off yeah like
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yeah and I get out of bed for people got to eat yeah like you like
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think about how much you make at your job and then times that by however many
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people it takes to make the game and how long it took yeah
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it's not it's not that and add a bit more because you have to buy other stuff
54:30
LIC licing distribution advertising it's [ __ ] epic that's what I mean I don't
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see how comp I don't see how it's so complicated you know what it's not if
54:39
you're one of those people shut up and you know what stop listening to my
54:43
podcast because it makes me uncomfortable even thinking that you
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know me well here's one thing I don't say people get upset about how much
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they're asking for it doesn't matter how much they're asking for what their goal
54:53
is you look at the level you're prepared to give and what is that worth it for
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what I'm getting yeah yeah that's it i' I've backed a few games and I've gone
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$10 yep I think that game is worth $10 I will back that I've seen another that
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was 20 I've gone don't think that game's worth it I kept my money yeah yeah
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whether they make their goal is nothing to do with what you should be giving
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yeah right yeah look moving on from
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irritating stuff about games Matt I know you're dying to talk about The Witcher
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3 I I am but uh mostly I only
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have more irritating things to mention because uh Witch of Three is out save
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get corrupted no no but uh Witch of three came out and I haven't had much
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time to play and it turns out that's probably a blessing at this point
55:45
because it's buggy as hell there there are a number of bugs in particular uh I
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I know people Simon the um who we mentioned earlier he he was playing it
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and he mentioned there was a bug where was mid conversation with with an NPC in
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the game and died so and you know what there's a few
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bugs that's life and apparently there's a there's a
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really bad Xbox One bug so listeners if you're playing it on Xbox One Bear this
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in mind they might have patched it by the time you hear this hopefully they
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have because it's pretty bad um uh if you are playing the game and you turn
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off your Xbox one you've probably noticed that games kind of Save State in
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memory when you turn the Xbox off so if you turn the game the Xbox back on and
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go to immediately start playing again it just instantly comes back on and you
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keep playing it's pretty cool MH mhm yeah except time yeah except in this
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case apparently in in Witcher 3 there's a bug where uh once it recovers in that
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state um it loses the ability to save games but it won't tell you that unless
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you manually try and save the game so for example uh you could turn your Xbox
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back on the game loads up and you go oh Beauty uh keep playing for for 7 hours
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uh oh better save the game oh it says it can't save right now for some reason
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that's peculiar uh keep trying no no good uh well no doubt it auto saved uh
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no it didn't ah so so you need to either turn off the instant on on your Xbox or
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actually shut down the game correctly yeah which do you know how to do that
57:19
Matt uh how to shut the game down correctly I mean you can you can do a
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hard power off on the Xbox no it does actually you can actually just shut it
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down oh like with the little uh menu button when you go back to the menu
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button it takes you back to the home screen yeah if you then hit like the
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start button on it yeah you can actually go quick game type thing okay and that
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that solves the issue as well yes cuz you've actually shut down the game okay
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well yeah I think it's probably something to do with the way that it the
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game opens a session with the operating system to save games or something
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hopefully they'll patch it pretty quickly it's a pretty serious bug you
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know people people are losing their [ __ ] about
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it so I've only played about H maybe an hour of the game uh and it's saved so
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that's good um but another thing people are talking about in relation to Witcher
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3 is the um apparent Graphics uh
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downgrade that it's received since the original footage was shown yeah um and
58:22
this has happened a couple of times like it happened with watch dogs as well
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where the game came out and everyone went well that doesn't look like the
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trailers yeah and uh and I thought just before it came out they came out and
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said this is actually going to be better than what seeing in trailers no wait
58:40
which Witcher yeah apparently see evidently they already scaled it back on
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the trailers that's what I heard they said uh they did comment on this there
58:50
was there's a lot of stuff a lot of people winging about it and there's a
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lot of blogs posting about it and stuff and uh we need to go into it too much
58:57
but CD Project Read said as a result of
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optimization but just before release they came to an agreement on what was
59:07
the best tradeoff for the consoles the Xbox and the PS4 oh we're talking about console not
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PC no no we're talking about both okay cuz people's complaint mostly is that
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the PC version maxed out looks no better
59:22
than the PS4 version right so so people are upset because the PC version in
59:28
theory should be able to look better and what they said was they were optimizing
59:33
everything they got it to a point where it looked looked and played uh best you
59:38
know like ratio wise versus looks versus playability on the consoles and stuff
59:42
they locked everything down and then it got released and what they're going to
59:45
do now is um they're going to release some performance updates uh soon
59:51
apparently there's a fix in in for approval on XBox and and PS4 that should
59:55
improve a few things and also the PC users will be able to edit the any files
59:59
and increase you know the the view distance and all that kind of stuff and
1:00:03
make it look uh you know as fancy as they want but they're going to have to trade off the
1:00:09
potential you know issues it might cause like bugs and stuff like that so it's
1:00:14
just a yeah it's a case of again people getting all pissy about something it
1:00:19
doesn't matter the game is [ __ ] amazing like what do you [ __ ] who cares
1:00:22
how far into the distance you can see you know like yeah does it really matter
1:00:28
that much the companies out aren't out there to screw you over they're trying
1:00:31
to give you the best game they can in particular CD project red are like I
1:00:35
mean to my knowledge the best for for you know keeping people happy and that
1:00:40
kind of stuff and like I said soon as they heard this was a problem they
1:00:43
released a statement saying no no no we'll fix it we'll fix it sorry about
1:00:45
that the H in fact um as for why they didn't warn Gamers that the game's
1:00:51
launch their Graphics would be inferior to those in trailers city project reads
1:00:55
Maran wiski said frankly we didn't think anyone to give a
1:01:01
[ __ ] look that constantly happens though however however feedback on the matter
1:01:06
has been touching and we'll do our best to make it up to you but if you didn't
1:01:10
play it and you're trolling think twice please
1:01:14
yeah but yeah the [ __ ] game's great who cares if the [ __ ] you can't see a
1:01:20
city in the distance from the same point on the hill that you could see in the
1:01:24
trailer like what the [ __ ] is wrong with you just play the game
1:01:28
no all right I'll play the game when I can see that [ __ ]
1:01:32
City no that company has screwed me over and I take that as a personal front they
1:01:37
need to correct it they need to apologize to me personally then maybe
1:01:40
I'll play this shitty game that's fair well I could talk briefly about
1:01:46
this book I don't know it's going to go for too long tell us about your little book
1:01:50
Maddie well I read I don't know are you familiar with the band Behemoth mhm yeah
1:01:54
you got sent pictures of their dicks right yeah that's true now Behemoth is a
1:02:01
uh is a black metal band ah like like Dam we going to play some
1:02:06
metal is that what you mean uh no not not quite what I meant um they're from
1:02:11
Poland um and they are black metal in the you know the the kind of uh burning
1:02:16
churches and um oh yeah and I'm familiar with killing priests kind of black metal
1:02:21
rather than the um you know that kind of
1:02:27
thing yeah exactly and um Adam Dari is the lead singer for Behemoth he's also
1:02:33
uh quite a big celebrity in Poland because he's on The Voice the Polish
1:02:37
version of The Voice right which he coed a bit of [ __ ] for being the singer of of
1:02:43
Behemoth and doing that um he he has released a book it's actually a series
1:02:48
of interviews with him um called confessions of no no someone else
1:02:53
interviewing it and to be fair uh they do ask some good questions and and when
1:02:57
he cops out they they go no no and they they call him on it yeah it's pretty
1:03:02
good uh it's called Confessions of a heretic um he's known for having some
1:03:07
extreme views on things I and uh like the the forward in the book is written
1:03:13
by Randy blle from Lamb of God uh another an American Metal band and he
1:03:18
makes the point of saying that Adam is uh is very opinionated and quite uh
1:03:23
quite extreme in his views and that he feels that maybe he's a bit more extreme
1:03:27
than Randy is um but I found it was
1:03:31
mostly to do with religion ah and uh I
1:03:35
tended to agree with him sure so yeah uh
1:03:39
I think I think maybe um it's just that
1:03:44
if you're religious yeah okay maybe you would think his views are extreme um for
1:03:49
example thinks you're an idiot well he just he he just thinks
1:03:53
it's it's hurt harmful and and and silly to um to to you know to to worry about
1:04:00
that stuff basically yeah and uh yeah but uh it's a it's a pretty cool book uh
1:04:06
you don't necessarily have to to like their music I'm not a huge fan of
1:04:10
Behemoth I do I appreciate what they do but it's not it's not quite what I'm
1:04:14
into I do like metal but um you know it's not normally what I would listen to
1:04:19
but he in particular he's very intelligent and um and I think uh if
1:04:26
your I guess you know I would say most of I mean most of us are atheists on
1:04:30
this show are we not uh yeah or or or agnostic perhaps yeah yeah I think yeah
1:04:37
well I'm a born again but um I'm a Jedi
1:04:41
yeah right so I guess maybe it's just um maybe it's just Americans and and
1:04:46
Europeans where you know where Christianity is very heavily embedded
1:04:50
and only that I just found it very interesting I realized recently that
1:04:54
Americans aren't even aware that most other countries are secular
1:05:00
like Americans seem to just assume that every country has like a Christian
1:05:06
government like they do right okay whereas well it's really
1:05:12
just them you know yeah well in the book he mentions that he was they were on a
1:05:18
tour in the US and at a big Festival in in a forest somewhere and the band that
1:05:23
played before them was a Christian band and the the singer from the band handed
1:05:28
their stage manager a Bible and said can you give this to Adam for me as a joke
1:05:33
and so the stage manager said oh I think this uh this was left for you and Adam
1:05:39
was like well that's [ __ ] inappropriate like it's just silly yeah
1:05:43
so uh he got up on stage he was a bit annoyed and he uh he said how many of
1:05:49
you think this is the word of your God and then being in America a lot of
1:05:55
people said what we do um and so he started ripping Pages out of it and
1:06:00
throwing to the crowd and said well I'm sorry to tell you that uh I think it's a
1:06:03
load of horse [ __ ] and uh yeah they uh obviously the crowd
1:06:09
was quite divided on that uh and so they integrated that into their performance
1:06:14
and when he went back to Poland and and around Europe um he started doing the
1:06:18
same thing because it got a reaction that's what he wanted he wanted people
1:06:21
to question things and talk about things um he it's not about just you know being
1:06:24
a [ __ ] to Christians it's about making people think like you know God
1:06:29
didn't strike me down like think about that yeah uh except however in Poland
1:06:34
apparently uh blasphemy is illegal and uh months and months
1:06:40
afterwards he he actually twice uh on separate occasions had to go to court to
1:06:45
defend himself um however luckily he was able to argue that it was Art sure and
1:06:51
he was he was not attempting to provoke people he was attempting to to um kind
1:06:57
of make people think like he wasn't just being a [ __ ] wit yeah so um yeah I don't
1:07:02
know I just found that the book is very interesting he's very intelligent uh and
1:07:06
also uh one of the key points in the book um that he talks about is he he had
1:07:10
leukemia um which he he battled and came through and it's just kind of about
1:07:16
how no but it's just about because a lot of people particularly over there said
1:07:21
to him you know how what's it like com going through that and not believing in
1:07:27
God and so he talks about that quite a bit which I thought I found that interesting as
1:07:31
well so only God what here was cancer yeah no no no
1:07:38
just I'm trying to see the I mean well I mean if you're maybe going to die yeah
1:07:44
uh he didn't have a safety net well I'll I'll stop you there we're all going to
1:07:48
die yeah yeah and I think but maybe not
1:07:53
I mean not as I mean d day I'm not constantly wondering if today's going to
1:07:58
be the day you know what I mean like oh well I
1:08:02
mean how's it feel to not be
1:08:07
depressed what I mean is he he could potentially have gone any day based on
1:08:14
the fact that he was very ill and receiving treatments that could have
1:08:17
killed him fair enough so I'll say this though and I just did um I just did a
1:08:22
job for an Islamic TV station as as the
1:08:25
people on this panel well know uh and as
1:08:29
a gift to me on his final day the client presented me with a beautiful ornate
1:08:36
Gold Leaf leatherbound
1:08:39
Karan really yes which he wrote in the cover of and thanked me for my
1:08:46
contribution oh that's nice wow um and the gesture was nice but I feel very
1:08:51
uncomfortable with it on my desk at work and it's at work because I don't want it
1:08:55
in my house house and um and somebody at work said um why
1:09:00
don't you tear it up or you know set it on fire and and and as as certain I am
1:09:07
that there is no God I'm not certain enough to [ __ ] burn a
1:09:14
Quran and so my atheism was tested on that day let me tell
1:09:19
you well here's the thing it's no matter what you think of it I'm sure from what
1:09:25
you've described it's quite a lovely book oh it's beautiful it's absolutely
1:09:29
beautiful yeah so why why destroy it no exactly right who cares I just want to
1:09:34
know why they went to like destroy just throw it away give
1:09:39
it away just burn it it that's what you
1:09:42
do to books Luke you burn them all right hav you read Farenheit 451 it's too
1:09:49
dangerous you know what I didn't read it and you know why I burnt it before I could read
1:09:54
it is it in English um it's both it's in English and
1:10:00
Arabic side by side interesting yeah that's pretty cool yeah see that's
1:10:05
that's a weird thing see stuff like that I think a book like that would be would
1:10:09
be very interesting and I think quite beautiful but on the other hand uh I do
1:10:14
think that stuff like that contains ideas that are hurtful yeah and uh so
1:10:20
yeah I'm talking about that stuff like for example churches uh particularly old
1:10:24
ones are quite beautiful but also they kind of represent
1:10:28
something I don't agree with so yeah you I agree with you Matt I'd go further but
1:10:33
this is really not the platform let's take this over to multiple religion
1:10:37
gm.com I don't know this is the funniest uh funniest last five minutes of the
1:10:42
podcast ever I'm sorry guys all right well has anyone been playing any games
1:10:48
I've just been playing more s five that's all I've been doing I'm just into
1:10:52
Telltale Games which ones oh you are cannot get enough of them now I've
1:10:58
finished um I'm up to date on Tales of Borderlands so I actually went out and
1:11:02
the Wolf Among Us ah yeah yeah I want to play that and so I've just started
1:11:06
playing that one and that one I am enjoying wait wait is that is that the
1:11:09
Fable one yeah yeah yeah I do want to play that cuz I did love the Fable
1:11:14
Comics see I I had trouble with that game on my iPad I couldn't couldn't get
1:11:18
into it uh well I'm uh Xbox cuz you know achievements yeah cuz you're a [ __ ]
1:11:24
yeah yep 59 in Australia now oh I am yeah impressive very impressive really
1:11:30
getting up there cool so how many how what is the r
1:11:36
what is the the difference I guess between you and the top oh between me
1:11:41
and the top it's uh just in Australia I don't care about the world I'm about
1:11:45
3,000 in the world or something right um
1:11:48
I'll just check now my
1:11:52
leaderboard um so the top in Australia is something like 800,000 or
1:11:59
something yeah 8 243,000 and yeah I'm
1:12:04
232,000 Los right so you're not going to catch up too easily I'm not going to
1:12:11
catch up to that but I will get to the top 50 probably within the next month or
1:12:15
two guys with girlfriends can't make numbers like that nope no it is a bit of
1:12:22
a struggle now yeah yeah yeah I'm not keeping up as well as I used to yeah
1:12:27
well maybe you need to prioritize Luke yeah and maybe she needs to understand
1:12:32
that you need your [ __ ] game time yeah she said she was going to start
1:12:37
listening to the podcast and this this will be the first one I know it it's all
1:12:42
hey Hannah how you going am I allowed to say her name yeah I think that's okay
1:12:48
good I she you mean on the podcast or would Luke have a problem with you just
1:12:53
saying name that was one of the creepiest things you've ever said it's
1:12:57
all right if I it's all if I say her name Luke Hanah I like the way it rolls
1:13:03
around in your mouth that's my cousin's name too so
1:13:10
inappropriate I am well it's only inappropriate if you're saying bad stuff
1:13:14
or sex stuff if you're just talking the if you're just talking about Hannah the
1:13:19
way you should be talking about I didn't say but you don't know what I'm thinking
1:13:22
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