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UK Column News Podcast 9th October 2024 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. It's Wednesday, the ninth of October, just after
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Speaker 1: one o'clock. Welcome to you k On News. I'm your
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Speaker 1: host make Robinson. Joining me to me today is Charles
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Speaker 1: Mallett and hopefully Vanessa Bailey from Damascus. We just had
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Speaker 1: a couple of technical issues with the link to Damascus,
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Speaker 1: so hopefully those will be sorted out. We're going to
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Speaker 1: get kicked off with the speech given yesterday by the
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Speaker 1: Director General of m I five, Ken McCallum, and well,
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Speaker 1: he began by talking about the very state of the
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Speaker 1: nation with respect to terrorism and so on. Let's start
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Speaker 1: with his comments on terrorism.
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Speaker 2: Speaking from sea talk, I have to start with terrorism.
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Speaker 2: Since March twenty seventeen, m I five and the police
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Speaker 2: have together disrupted forty three late stage attack plots. Some
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Speaker 2: of those plots we're trying to get a hold of
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Speaker 2: firearms and explosives in the final days of planning mass murder.
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Speaker 2: Our vital walk together has saved numerous lives. The headline
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Speaker 2: split of our counter terrorist what remains roughly seventy five
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Speaker 2: percent Islamist extremist twenty five percent extreme right wing terrorism.
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Speaker 2: But under that headline much has shifted straightforward labels like
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Speaker 2: Islamist terrorism or extreme right wing don't fully reflect the
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Speaker 2: dizzying range of beliefs and ideologies we see.
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Speaker 1: Charles, I just want to start off by getting your
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Speaker 1: thoughts on that. So seventy five percent Islamus terrorism, twenty
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Speaker 1: five percent far right terrorism, and of course, as usual,
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Speaker 1: they claim to have foiled all kinds of plots that
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Speaker 1: we never actually see the evidence of. So I mean,
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Speaker 1: do you think it goes beyond claims?
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Speaker 3: Well, I would say mccollan's got form in this because
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Speaker 3: he and Mark Rowley, if we cast our minds back
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Speaker 3: to October last year, they were both talking up the
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Speaker 3: state threat from Iran with absolutely nothing to substantiate it.
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Speaker 3: So I would take anything that he said with an
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Speaker 3: enormous quantity of salt, and also giving a seventy five
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Speaker 3: to twenty five percent split gives obviously absolutely no room
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Speaker 3: for any other threat, which seems naive in the extreme.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting you mentioned Iran because well, he talks
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Speaker 1: about Russia first. Let's let's listen to that. And well,
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Speaker 1: he talks about Iran of course in a second, but
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Speaker 1: let's get Russia first.
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Speaker 2: I know, want to ton to the threats paused by
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Speaker 2: autocratic regimes Russia continues as a legal attempt to subjugate
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Speaker 2: Ukraine will the Russian military grains away on the battlefield
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Speaker 2: at horrendous human cost. We're also seeing Putin's henchmen seeking
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Speaker 2: to strike elsewhere in the miscaided hope of a weakening
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Speaker 2: Western resolve. Over seven hundred and fifty Russian diplomats have
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Speaker 2: been expelled from Europe since Putting invaded, the great majority
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Speaker 2: of them spies. This goes well beyond all historical precedent
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Speaker 2: and has put a big dent in the Russian intelligence
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Speaker 2: services' ability to cause damage in the West. With allies,
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Speaker 2: we're keeping up that pressure by denying diplomatic visa applications
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Speaker 2: from Russian spies. It's not flashy, but it works. Kick
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Speaker 2: them out, keep them out.
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Speaker 1: Kick them out, and keep them out. So in the
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Speaker 1: attack on Russia, and as charge just alluded to, that
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Speaker 1: was followed by an attack on Iran.
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Speaker 2: Now to Iran. Since the killing of Mace Armenian twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty two, we've seen plot after plot here in the
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Speaker 2: UK at an unprecedented pace and scale. Since January twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty two, with police partners, we have responded to twenty
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Speaker 2: Iran backed plots presenting potentially lethal threats to British citizens
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Speaker 2: and UK residents. As events unfold in the Middle East,
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Speaker 2: we will give our fullest attention to the risk of
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Speaker 2: an increase in or a broadening of Iranian state aggression
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Speaker 2: here in the UK. Like the Russian services, Iranian state
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Speaker 2: actors make extensive use of criminals as proxies.
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Speaker 1: So now criminals in the UK are suddenly proxies for
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Speaker 1: Iranian terrorism in the UK. It's quite incredible. No evidence presented,
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Speaker 1: just statements made, and of course the intelligence agencies have
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Speaker 1: formed in this. If we think about yellow Cake for example,
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Speaker 1: but he then inevitably went on to China.
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Speaker 2: And thirdly China China is different the UK China economic
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Speaker 2: relationship supports UK growth, which underpins our security, and there
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Speaker 2: are also risks to be managed. The choices are complex
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Speaker 2: and it rightly falls to ministers to make the big
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Speaker 2: strategic judgments on our relationship with China, where it's in
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Speaker 2: the UK's interest to cooperate, and how we do so safely.
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Speaker 2: M I five continues to focus where you'd expect us
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Speaker 2: to disrupting attempts at harming or coercing people where often
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Speaker 2: we're protecting people of Chinese heritage, tackling threats into our democracy,
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Speaker 2: and safeguarding valuable information against the threat that manifests at scale.
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Speaker 2: Proportionate and targeted security protections are part of the foundation
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Speaker 2: for a confident relationship with China that both enables economic
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Speaker 2: growth and maintains the UK's values.
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Speaker 1: So they have a bit of a problem with China
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Speaker 1: because China is we have to rely on China so
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Speaker 1: much for supply chains that it's got to be dealt
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Speaker 1: with separately. But in the meantime, tomorrow everybody will be
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Speaker 1: delighted to know that the lovely Mark Rudder, the new
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Speaker 1: head of NATO, is visiting the UK. Of course he is.
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Speaker 1: He's here to stay here, starmer. There will be no
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Speaker 1: opportunity for the media to get involved in that whatsoever.
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Speaker 1: This is a private meeting between the two of them,
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Speaker 1: I'm quite sure to discuss the war agenda, but we
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Speaker 1: should make the point here remind everybody about this gentleman,
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Speaker 1: Robert Fito. He's the Prime Minister of Slovakia and if
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Speaker 1: you remember back a few months ago, lots of media
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Speaker 1: coverage about him, because he, of course is the pro
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Speaker 1: Russia candidate that became sorry, Slovakia's president to apologize he's
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Speaker 1: borrowing from Trump, said the Guardian, and so headline after
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Speaker 1: headline about this man, and of course what happened as
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Speaker 1: a result of these headlines as the media stoked everything up, Well,
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Speaker 1: there was an assassination attempt and he ended up being
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Speaker 1: taken away with several bullets in him. Now he's recovered
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Speaker 1: from that, and he's now made a statement on the
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Speaker 1: issue of war and the question of whether Mark Ruda
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Speaker 1: is going to get his wish because as we mentioned
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Speaker 1: a few days ago, Mark Rudder wants Ukraine in NATO
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Speaker 1: as quickly as possible. So this is from Slovakian media.
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Speaker 1: Let's do a quick translation of the headline, so Feto
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Speaker 1: saying the war in Ukraine is desired by the West
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Speaker 1: and continues only because it wants Tosia deal Russia. Russians
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Speaker 1: on their knees. That's a poor translation perhaps, or they
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Speaker 1: probably put Russia on their knees, but basically this is
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Speaker 1: what he had to say. As long as I'm the
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Speaker 1: Prime Minister of the Slovaki Republic, I will lead the
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Speaker 1: legislators whom I have control over as party chairman to
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Speaker 1: never agree to Ukraine's membership in NATO. Ukraine's entry in
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Speaker 1: the NATO would serve as a good basis for a
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Speaker 1: third World War, because once Ukraine is a NATO member
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Speaker 1: and a conflict similar to the current one breaks out,
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Speaker 1: it will kind of us an attack on a NATO
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Speaker 1: member and some extremely dangerous mechanisms can be triggered. Charles
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Speaker 1: don't know if you've got any thoughts on that, but
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Speaker 1: I think, bearing in mind he's already had a sid
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Speaker 1: one assassination assassination attempt which injured him extremely badly, this
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Speaker 1: is a pretty bit brave position to take.
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Speaker 3: Well, it's absolutely a brave position to take in light
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Speaker 3: of the others surrounding him that are not taking that position.
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Speaker 3: But of course he speaks with great sense, and this
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Speaker 3: is the position that uk Column has been taking for months,
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Speaker 3: if not years. And it's almost as though Mark Rutter
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Speaker 3: has not been given the memo in that he doesn't
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Speaker 3: seem to acknowledge that and to realize that the consequences
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Speaker 3: for NATO and her members are catastrophic if Ukraine is
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Speaker 3: brought in at a time where conflict with Russia is
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Speaker 3: ongoing and therefore inevitable, and of course it would drag
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Speaker 3: everybody else in. So I think to hear a voice
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Speaker 3: speaking out so prominently is absolutely what's needed. Quite what
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Speaker 3: happens as a result of his of his his outspokenness,
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Speaker 3: will remain to be seen.
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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, thank you for that. And well, let's stay
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Speaker 1: on the issue of NATO. And this is from developed
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Speaker 1: in Germany. Again, we'll do a quick translation of the
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Speaker 1: headline NATO calls for forty nine more combat troop brigades.
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Speaker 1: So Develt is claiming to have seen a document from
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Speaker 1: inside the German Defense Ministry which they say, quote shows
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Speaker 1: the increase in military capabilities that NATO commanders consider necessary.
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Speaker 1: The document is titled Military Capability Requirements, and it's been
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Speaker 1: approved by General Christopher Cavol and French Admiral Pierre Fandler,
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Speaker 1: NATO's two top military commanders, and according to de Velt,
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Speaker 1: it calls for an increase in NATO ground combat forces
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Speaker 1: from any two brigades to one hundred and thirty one brigades.
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Speaker 1: That's an increase of forty nine brigades, and that is
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Speaker 1: in fact an increase of somewhere between two hundred and
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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty thousand troops. Now the question then
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Speaker 1: is where are they going to get these troops? And
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Speaker 1: of course one place they might get them is through
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Speaker 1: conscription or national service as Richie Sunac wanted to call it. Now,
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Speaker 1: the question is whether the current Libor regime is going
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Speaker 1: to continue with this agenda, and Keir Starmer at the
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Speaker 1: time was very much saying no way. That was back
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Speaker 1: in May. But as a Telegraph reporting here, thousands of
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Speaker 1: teenagers should do national service for a year, say senior
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Speaker 1: Libor figures. So this agenda continues to be pushed in
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Speaker 1: this country. Charles, do you think it's realistic that Netto
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Speaker 1: could see two hundred and fifty thousand extra troops and
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Speaker 1: where would they get them from other than from conscription?
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Speaker 3: Well, I think yeah, as you say, conscription is the
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Speaker 3: only way to go about it, So I think it's
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Speaker 3: entirely probable in terms of administration to put that number
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Speaker 3: of people into the system. I think the far bigger
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Speaker 3: question is what capability will they have, How on earth
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Speaker 3: would they be trained and equipped and indeed managed. Who's
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Speaker 3: actually going to operate this? But within the UK we
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Speaker 3: have to cast our minds back. I spoke about this
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Speaker 3: before to the legislation that was passed in nineteen thirty nine,
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Speaker 3: and I think I'm right in saying the statistic then
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Speaker 3: was that two hundred and forty thousand people were immediately
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Speaker 3: conscripted within a day. Okay, admitstively that's not going to
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Speaker 3: be people actually moving into a training capacity. But nonetheless,
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Speaker 3: these things can be changed very quickly, but of course
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Speaker 3: what is actually delivered, And I would say that society
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Speaker 3: now is in far worse shape physically and mentally than
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Speaker 3: it was back in the late thirties, So it's going
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Speaker 3: to I mean, you know, absolutely ridiculous to suggest that
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Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty thousand people somehow be conjured out
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Speaker 3: of the woodwork into serviceable troops.
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Speaker 1: Indeed, well, look, I regret to say that Vanessa has
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Speaker 1: not been able to join us so far, and she
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Speaker 1: just sent me a message explaining the problem. So there
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Speaker 1: is a technical problem in Syria. This is effectively a
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Speaker 1: war zone at the moment, once again, sadly, because there's
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Speaker 1: definitely an expansion of the conflict in the Middle East
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Speaker 1: in the Syria. So we will do our best to
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Speaker 1: get Vanessa on perhaps later in the program, but otherwise
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Speaker 1: we'll see her next week. No diet, But Charles, let's
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Speaker 1: move on to your segment then, on education and the
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Speaker 1: money that the government has decided they're going to put
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Speaker 1: into tackling antisemitism in education.
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Speaker 3: Yes, thanks Mike, and a proper good afternoon to you all.
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Speaker 3: What looks like a straightforward announcement, albeit one that's designed
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Speaker 3: to score political points, a gesture of opportunism, one might say,
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Speaker 3: the Education Secretary has announced a pledge of seven pounds
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Speaker 3: to tackle antisemitism in education. But to what end and
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Speaker 3: where might this go? Well, they say that the funding
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Speaker 3: will aim to educate people about antisemitism and better equipped schools,
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Speaker 3: colleges and universities stamp out anti smitty abuse. Now, of course,
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Speaker 3: that is very much open to interpretation, and they go
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Speaker 3: on to say the commitment comes after the number of
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Speaker 3: incidents of anti Semitic abuse nationwide more than doubled in
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Speaker 3: the first five months of twenty twenty four compared to
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Speaker 3: the same period a year earlier. On university campuses, the
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Speaker 3: number of incidents grew by four hundred and sixty five percent. Now,
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Speaker 3: clearly that sounds like a remarkable increase and huge numbers
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Speaker 3: therefore must be involved, But is that really the case?
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Speaker 3: That these statistics have come from a report by the
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Speaker 3: Community Security Trust CST, which has the unique distinction of
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Speaker 3: being part funded by government but also able to conduct
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Speaker 3: joint patrols with the police in this country, making Judaism
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Speaker 3: the only religion to be afforded such privileges. And in
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Speaker 3: their report, in fact, we see that during the first
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Speaker 3: six months of this year there were ninety six anti
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Speaker 3: Semitic incidents in which the victims or offenders were involved
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Speaker 3: in student union societies or other representative bodies. Now, to
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Speaker 3: put this in context, there are two point nine million
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Speaker 3: students in university education at the moment. Further, UK Universities
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Speaker 3: has compiled the report to suggests that ethnic minorities are
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Speaker 3: represented as saying that twenty four percent of them have
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Speaker 3: experienced some sort of racial harassment over the course of
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Speaker 3: the year, and when it comes to black university students
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Speaker 3: that forty five percent say that they've experienced some sort
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Speaker 3: of racial harassment over the course of the year. So
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Speaker 3: the government absolutely cherry picking their statistics in this instance.
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Speaker 3: But of course we then get this reinforced by the
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Speaker 3: Prime Minister who gave a speech at the Holocaust Education
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Speaker 3: Trust back on sixteenth September, and he says, yet on
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Speaker 3: October the seventh, of course, twenty twenty three, over one
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Speaker 3: thousand people were mascud by Hamas for the very same reason,
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Speaker 3: because they were Jewish. And this is the line. So
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Speaker 3: when we consider education, it's really a re education, Holocaust denial,
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Speaker 3: conspiracy theories, contorted versions of history, pure hatred and prejudy.
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Speaker 3: So I say tonight, we will not shy away from this,
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Speaker 3: We will not be silent. We will not look the
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Speaker 3: other way. Of course, unless it concerns the killing of
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Speaker 3: Palestinians because they are Palestinian. We will build that National
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Speaker 3: Holocaust Memorial and Learning Center and build it next to Parliament, boldly, proudly, unapologetically,
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Speaker 3: not as a Jewish community initiative, but as a national initiative,
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Speaker 3: a national statement of the truth of a holocaust and
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Speaker 3: its place in our national consciousness. Now, as has been
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Speaker 3: said many times on UK column before, the National Holocaust
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Speaker 3: Memorial is highly contentious because it concerns planning legislation in
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Speaker 3: the Victoria Tower Garden, which absolutely is not a given
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Speaker 3: that it will go through, and ac calling it to
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Speaker 3: national initiative about something that did not happen in this
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Speaker 3: country to people of this country is perfectly extraordinary. But
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Speaker 3: that's the way we're being pushed with this. He further
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Speaker 3: reinforced all these points with a statement to the Commons
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Speaker 3: on the seventh of October, in which he says, with
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Speaker 3: the Middle East closer to the bring in the very
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Speaker 3: real danger of regional war, last week, the Iranian regime
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Speaker 3: chose to strike Israel, the whole House will join me
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Speaker 3: in condemning this attack. We support Israel's right to defend
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Speaker 3: herself against Iran's aggression in line with international law. So
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Speaker 3: as I say, we are concerned here with re education,
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Speaker 3: the whole House will join me in thanking our brave
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Speaker 3: servicemen and women who have shown their usual courage encountering
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Speaker 3: this threat. But make no mistake, this regent cannot endure
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Speaker 3: another year of this. So the inference being that our
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Speaker 3: servicemen and women have been closely involved in military actions
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Speaker 3: so far, all sides must now step back from the
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Speaker 3: brink and find the courage of restraint. There's no military
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Speaker 3: solution to these challenges, so we must renew our diplomatic efforts.
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Speaker 3: Well now, he said this, Peter Kyle the Secretary of
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Speaker 3: State for Science, Innovation and Technology appears to have said
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Speaker 3: something slightly different or has not ruled out military action.
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Speaker 3: This was him speaking to Laura Kunsberg on Sunday just past.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 4: The UK has helped Israel on some of the occasions
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Speaker 4: when it has defended itself from Iranian missiles, but would
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Speaker 4: you rule out the UK military being involved in any
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Speaker 4: way in any attacks on Iran.
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Speaker 5: These are operational decisions that must be taken. These These
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Speaker 5: are operational decisions that will be taken by the Defense
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Speaker 5: Secretary and the Prime Minister and also the Foreign Secretary.
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Speaker 5: These are delicate negotiations, delicate situations. Britain will do what
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Speaker 5: it needs to do to support our allies in a
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Speaker 5: time of need. But it is very clear from what
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Speaker 5: we have said publicly that Britain will use all of
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Speaker 5: its influence, all of the tools we have at our disposal,
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Speaker 5: to move towards a swift diplomatic solution based on a
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Speaker 5: ceasefire as quickly as possible. Now we're working very closely
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Speaker 5: with our international allies. We will take actions in concert
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Speaker 5: with our international.
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Speaker 4: Ally sign of a swift diplomatic resolution. You know, just
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Speaker 4: in the last ten days diplomacy failed to stop attacks
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Speaker 4: for a coming And this is a question for some
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Speaker 4: people in your own party. This is a question of
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Speaker 4: principle that it's okay in some people's view for the
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Speaker 4: UK to be supporting Israel when it's defending itself, for
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Speaker 4: our jets to be in the air if there are
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Speaker 4: missiles raining down on Tel Aviv. But it would not
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Speaker 4: be acceptable for the UK military in any way to
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Speaker 4: play a part in Israel attacking Iran. That's a question
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Speaker 4: of principle. Would you be comfortable with the UK military
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Speaker 4: helping exactly?
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Speaker 5: We simply don't know the circumstances of what is happening,
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Speaker 5: is it might or might not happen in the days ahead.
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Speaker 5: And I think all of you rudes would understand why
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Speaker 5: I'm not going to get involved in operational circumstances for
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Speaker 5: an action that may or may not happen and we
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Speaker 5: don't know the details of in the days ahead.
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Speaker 4: Do you think on the on the left that people
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Speaker 4: would how do you think they would view the UK government?
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Speaker 3: Sorry, in my apology that was the wrong clip which
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Speaker 3: went on slightly too long, but you get the message
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Speaker 3: purist double speak there By Peter Kyle absolutely suggesting that
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Speaker 3: there will be a likelihood that our serviceman would be
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Speaker 3: engaged in conflict with Iran at the behest of Israel.
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Speaker 3: So we go back to the education theme here, and
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Speaker 3: just a reminder which we talked about many times, that
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Speaker 3: the Holocaust, as reported by the Holocaust Educational Trust, has
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Speaker 3: a place in the curriculum. By law in England, children
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Speaker 3: are to be taught about the Holocaust. In fact, the
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Speaker 3: Holocaust is the only historical event who study is compulsory
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Speaker 3: on the national curriculum, which turns us to the subject
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Speaker 3: of home education. And this is because during a written
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Speaker 3: question in September, the Permanent Undersecretary Stephen Morgan, was asked
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Speaker 3: about the register and he said that we cannot ignore
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Speaker 3: the rising numbers of home educated children, and then he
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Speaker 3: goes on to say that there's an increase in the
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Speaker 3: number of those being home educated due to mental health
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Speaker 3: concerns or lack of provision for special education needs, essentially
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Speaker 3: reframing the idea of home education as being for children
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Speaker 3: who have issues and therefore require government intervention, which is
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Speaker 3: why they're pushing ahead with the Homeschool Education Registration and
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Speaker 3: Support Bill, in which they say that any other information
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Speaker 3: about the child's characteristic circumstances, needs, or interactions that the
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Speaker 3: Secutorary of State thinks should be included in the register
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Speaker 3: for the purposes of promoting or safeguarding the education, safety,
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Speaker 3: or welfare of children. So we return to the idea
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Speaker 3: that anti Semitism is now becoming a key part of
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Speaker 3: the education of children, and that therefore those that are
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Speaker 3: outside of the system via home education need to be
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Speaker 3: brought back into it in order that they can be indoctrinated.
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Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, Charles, and we'll be talking a little
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Speaker 1: bit more about education and how children are being indoctorated
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Speaker 1: a little bit later in the program. But I'm very
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Speaker 1: glad to say that Vanessa has managed to join us
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Speaker 1: NIA after all, and Vanessa, welcome to the program. The
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Speaker 1: war apparently beginning to expand towards Syria.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, there's been a low key intensity war
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Speaker 6: against Syria for more than a decade now from Israel,
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Speaker 6: but we've seen the expansion, heavy expansion into Lebanon. Now
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Speaker 6: more than two thousand dead, nine thousand to ten thousand
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Speaker 6: injured in Lebanon, not mentioning, of course, the genocide in
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Speaker 6: Gloza So last night Israel was defending itself by bombing
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Speaker 6: three residential apartments in the middle of the city of
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Speaker 6: Damascus in an area called Mesza.
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Speaker 7: You can see there it's pretty built up.
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Speaker 6: Nine civilians dead, eleven plus injured, and still searching for
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Speaker 6: people under the rubble. The claim by Israel is that
21:54
Speaker 6: they were targeting IRGC, the Iranian forces commanders. Iran has
22:00
Speaker 6: denied the death of any Uranian citizen.
22:03
Speaker 7: Then they changed it to a Hezbolla.
22:06
Speaker 6: Commander responsible for allegedly smuggling weapons. That's also not yet
22:11
Speaker 6: been confirmed, but we do know that these nine civilians
22:15
Speaker 6: have died, one of whom was doctor Rohuff come here
22:19
Speaker 6: urologists with the Damascus Health Director. And then an entire
22:23
Speaker 6: family of Yemeni civilians, Yemeni professor doctor Shahi al Aud,
22:31
Speaker 6: his wife and three daughters were killed in the bombing.
22:36
Speaker 6: And then the Ministry of Defense in Syria put out
22:40
Speaker 6: an official statement to at around twenty fifteen, so again
22:43
Speaker 6: this is a very busy time in the city center.
22:47
Speaker 6: The is really enemy launched an air aggression with three
22:50
Speaker 6: missiles from the direction of the occupied Syrian got in
22:53
Speaker 6: the south, targeting a residential and commercial building and the
22:56
Speaker 6: densely populated Messay neighborhood which led to the martine of seven.
23:00
Speaker 6: It's now nine, including children and women, and the injury
23:04
Speaker 6: of eleven others as an initial toll. And work is
23:07
Speaker 6: still ongoing, as they say, to rescue others from the rubble.
23:11
Speaker 6: But I just wanted to bring people up to speed
23:14
Speaker 6: with what the intention potentially is, of course, not only
23:17
Speaker 6: in Syria and.
23:18
Speaker 7: Lebanon and in Palestine, but in the entire region.
23:21
Speaker 6: So Natanyahu's speech at the UNNGA, you had the curse
23:25
Speaker 6: and the blessing or the curse of course is Syria, Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, and.
23:31
Speaker 7: We presume Palestine, although they're not even moked on the map.
23:35
Speaker 6: The blessing, as we've talked about before, also is effectively
23:39
Speaker 6: the Indian Middle East Economic Corridor, going through Saudi Arabia,
23:45
Speaker 6: the occupied territories of Palestine and then Egypt and into Europe,
23:51
Speaker 6: also isolating Turkey, which is.
23:54
Speaker 7: Another point we can possibly talk about in extra.
23:58
Speaker 6: Then, basically a few days ago Israel bombed.
24:03
Speaker 7: The main border road from Syria to Lebanon. On both sides,
24:09
Speaker 7: you can see that the crater is quite extensive.
24:11
Speaker 6: Again, the claim was that they were targeting tunnels that
24:15
Speaker 6: were being used for carrying weapons. There is, of course
24:19
Speaker 6: no sign of any weapons, but Syria is now completely
24:23
Speaker 6: isolated and Lebanon is unable to sell sense sorry refugees
24:28
Speaker 6: into Syria for safety. Now, I just wanted to spend
24:34
Speaker 6: some time. You're going to look at this mout and
24:36
Speaker 6: think what earth is she doing? But I just wanted
24:39
Speaker 6: to point out the threats that now face Syria. So effectively,
24:42
Speaker 6: in the last week or so, we've had a series
24:45
Speaker 6: of bombing raids by the Israelis that have effectively been
24:50
Speaker 6: trying to clear pathways through the Syrian air defense and
24:54
Speaker 6: radar systems in the south to the west on the
24:57
Speaker 6: coast and centrally homes, which is there written as hymns,
25:02
Speaker 6: which is how it's sometimes written, but you can see.
25:04
Speaker 7: It on the map. In the south.
25:07
Speaker 6: The greatest threat is actually of invasion by the Israeli
25:12
Speaker 6: forces from the occupied Goland.
25:14
Speaker 7: Territories in the sort of.
25:16
Speaker 6: The south western corner of Syria. And why I've put
25:21
Speaker 6: that red circle, that's where I think Israel intends to
25:26
Speaker 6: try to reach. So it's going to intend to try
25:29
Speaker 6: to harness the.
25:32
Speaker 7: Remaining terrorist forces in the south.
25:35
Speaker 6: The separatist drews the Altanif military base of the US
25:41
Speaker 6: which is also housing and training multiple armed groups, rock
25:46
Speaker 6: Band refugee camp, which is rather you've mystically called a
25:50
Speaker 6: refugee camp. It is also a recruitment and training ground
25:54
Speaker 6: for the various extremist groups that's in the blue on
25:57
Speaker 6: the eastern border with Jordan. So they will have the
26:01
Speaker 6: support of the alton f camp, they will have the
26:04
Speaker 6: support of factions in the south, and of course that
26:06
Speaker 6: has been their intention from the beginning of the regime
26:11
Speaker 6: change war against Syria. The little sort of lightning strike
26:17
Speaker 6: there is the closure of borders with Labanon, which again,
26:21
Speaker 6: as I said, isolates Syria. We know that NATO forces
26:26
Speaker 6: have been gathering in the north. We know that British
26:28
Speaker 6: military intelligence operations have been ongoing in the north of Lebanon,
26:33
Speaker 6: potentially of course targeting the border with homps in Syria.
26:39
Speaker 6: We recently had strikes from Israel but coordinated also with
26:43
Speaker 6: the terrorists and edleb in the northwest of Syria coming
26:46
Speaker 6: in from the eastern Mediterranean. And I'm circling Cypress because
26:51
Speaker 6: I do believe there's also a threat from the gathering
26:53
Speaker 6: of NATO forces in Cyprus if there is to be
26:57
Speaker 6: an escalation.
26:59
Speaker 7: Of the against Syria.
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Speaker 6: Now in the northwest you'll see there, it's been announced
27:04
Speaker 6: that Golani or Jolani, the head of Al Kayedo or
27:08
Speaker 6: Tali al Shamas it's now known previously isis Is, it's
27:14
Speaker 6: been announced that he's going to be leading a major
27:16
Speaker 6: ground assault in that area with drones and ground forces.
27:22
Speaker 6: We also know that Ukrainian special intelligence forces have been
27:26
Speaker 6: in Edleb, both to recruit terrorist forces to go to Ukraine,
27:31
Speaker 6: but also we assume training the terrorist forces in the northwest.
27:36
Speaker 7: Now in the Red.
27:38
Speaker 6: Square, you will see albal Kamal, which is the last
27:41
Speaker 6: remaining open corridor under the control of Iraq and Syria.
27:45
Speaker 6: So the US is now or has been for some time,
27:48
Speaker 6: attempting to take control of that corridor to completely close
27:52
Speaker 6: that eastern border for Syria, and of course the northeast
27:56
Speaker 6: there is occupied by the Kurdish. Contrast, the Kurdishtus under
28:00
Speaker 6: the control of Israel and the US, and the US
28:03
Speaker 6: which is occupying the oil fields and agricultural sources in
28:08
Speaker 6: that area is so very much sort of heightened threat
28:14
Speaker 6: alert right now for Syria, and that appears to be
28:18
Speaker 6: where we're heading, and I just wanted to come back
28:20
Speaker 6: again to the Greater Israel mat so people can understand
28:23
Speaker 6: why this is happening. Of course, three quarters of Syrian
28:27
Speaker 6: territory is perceived to belong to Greater Israel. And where
28:32
Speaker 6: I've put the red circle is the area east of
28:35
Speaker 6: the Euphrates occupied by the US and the Kurdish colonial
28:40
Speaker 6: settlers that have effectively ethnically cleansed much of that area
28:44
Speaker 6: of the Assyrian and Syrian population. So you can see
28:48
Speaker 6: precisely why the US is occupying that area, in particular
28:52
Speaker 6: to ensure that if Israel takes control of three quarters
28:56
Speaker 6: of Syria, it will not be faced with an antagonistic
28:59
Speaker 6: SI state in that area.
29:01
Speaker 7: And you know, many.
29:03
Speaker 6: Photos have been taken in Gaza of Israeli forces wearing
29:08
Speaker 6: a patch that shows very clearly the map of Greater Israel.
29:13
Speaker 6: And as we were talking about anti Semitism, the support
29:17
Speaker 6: for this project and this agenda in Syria in the
29:21
Speaker 6: entire region is supported across the board in the EU
29:26
Speaker 6: pretty much for the majority of EU countries, and certainly
29:30
Speaker 6: in the US and in the UK. And I just
29:32
Speaker 6: wanted to show this latest video of Trump talking about
29:36
Speaker 6: removing the jew haters. We will remove the jihadist sympathizers
29:44
Speaker 6: and Jew haters.
29:45
Speaker 7: We're going to remove the Jew haters who do nothing
29:49
Speaker 7: to help our country. They only want to destroy our country.
29:53
Speaker 7: And we will never.
29:54
Speaker 6: Let the horrors of October seventh be repeated here on Americans.
29:58
Speaker 7: We will not let that happen, and we will solve
30:01
Speaker 7: the problem.
30:01
Speaker 1: That we have.
30:05
Speaker 6: I wonder what he's going to do about the Jews
30:08
Speaker 6: that hate the Zionists. Interesting dilemma there, but I mean,
30:13
Speaker 6: you know, we're just heading into uncharted territory in my
30:16
Speaker 6: opinion at the moment.
30:18
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32:43
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32:46
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32:48
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32:55
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32:58
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33:01
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33:05
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33:08
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33:13
Speaker 1: live stream which we hosted previously, and we'll be coming
33:17
Speaker 1: on to the topic of smart cities a little bit
33:20
Speaker 1: later in the program, but before we get to that,
33:22
Speaker 1: let's come back on to education and education and AI
33:26
Speaker 1: in particular, and wanted juicy to this organization called Century.
33:31
Speaker 1: So Century says that any student or pupil that is
33:35
Speaker 1: using Century AI to take help with their education ends
33:41
Speaker 1: up with a ten times national average grid improvement. That's
33:44
Speaker 1: quite a claim. So we have a little bit of
33:48
Speaker 1: video here introducing Century, so let's have a listen to this.
33:54
Speaker 8: In twenty thirty eight, I found a Century to solve
33:56
Speaker 8: one of the biggest problems in the world. Children do
33:59
Speaker 8: not receive the required levels of literacy and nunity, and
34:03
Speaker 8: therefore we wanted to build technology that could transform teaching
34:06
Speaker 8: and learning. Our vision is to ensure that every teacher
34:09
Speaker 8: and every learner has access to intelligent tools to help
34:12
Speaker 8: them succeed. In order to fulfill this vision, we have
34:16
Speaker 8: brought together the world's leading data scientists, engineers, neuroscientists, teachers,
34:21
Speaker 8: and educational psychologists to build Century. Century is an intelligent
34:25
Speaker 8: intervention tool that's able to understand each student's individual strengths,
34:28
Speaker 8: weaknesses and behaviors.
34:31
Speaker 1: So what could possibly go wrong? And well Century has
34:35
Speaker 1: been in the media in the last couple of days.
34:37
Speaker 1: We'll come on to that in the second But my
34:39
Speaker 1: first question was who's funding them? And well, it seems
34:42
Speaker 1: that they've had quite a bit of venture capital money
34:45
Speaker 1: and some of it coming from this organization HPE, which
34:48
Speaker 1: is growing world class technology in Europe. And I just
34:51
Speaker 1: wanted to highlight a couple of points here. First of all,
34:55
Speaker 1: they are a B corporation, a B corp, as Ben
34:59
Speaker 1: has been talking about quite a lot. And also, of
35:01
Speaker 1: course they're very interested in pursuing investments which help develop
35:07
Speaker 1: the sustainable development goals. What could be better? So there
35:10
Speaker 1: we go. That's with that. So why are we talking
35:12
Speaker 1: about this today? Well, they have Well before we get
35:15
Speaker 1: onto that, we'll just remind everybody that the Century very
35:19
Speaker 1: keen to welcome Sir Tony Blair and Lord Higgs report
35:23
Speaker 1: on recommending the use of AI in the classroom. But
35:27
Speaker 1: we're talking about this today because they have They are
35:29
Speaker 1: now taking part in a pilot scheme in Liverpool called
35:33
Speaker 1: rev and they've talked about this in a blog post
35:35
Speaker 1: on their website entitled Revolutionizing Learning AI Tiics center Stage
35:40
Speaker 1: in Liverpool and what it's saying is. In April twenty
35:43
Speaker 1: twenty four, the author of this blog post had the
35:46
Speaker 1: opportunity to meet the Liverpool Mayor, Steve Rotherham, as he
35:51
Speaker 1: was planning his reelection campaign, and what struck him was
35:54
Speaker 1: that Steve Rotherham was really into technology and it was
35:56
Speaker 1: really exciting and so they invited the mayor the new
36:00
Speaker 1: mayor once he was elected, to running meets in Edward's
36:02
Speaker 1: Catholic Primary School in Liverpool to show off their wares
36:06
Speaker 1: and as a result of that bit of lobbying, they've
36:09
Speaker 1: had apparently the opportunity to expand this to the Liverpool
36:14
Speaker 1: City region and so thousands of pupils are going to
36:17
Speaker 1: be taking part in it. So let's bring the Liddy
36:21
Speaker 1: finder on screen. And she was asked about this issue
36:26
Speaker 1: of AI coming into the classroom and whether that would
36:29
Speaker 1: risk the jobs of teachers, and there was a comparison
36:33
Speaker 1: with checkout staff at supermarkets that have had their jobs
36:37
Speaker 1: replaced by automated checkout, and she said that with all
36:41
Speaker 1: due respect to checkout cashiers. Are you comparing scanning your
36:45
Speaker 1: bread across a barcode and the bagging of the bread,
36:48
Speaker 1: which you probably do yourself, as requiring the same skill
36:50
Speaker 1: set as a teacher? She said, teaching is a profession,
36:54
Speaker 1: it's an art and a science. A century. We will
36:57
Speaker 1: robustly and vigorously defend the teaching profession and the skillet
37:01
Speaker 1: requires And you have made a poor analogy there. Well,
37:04
Speaker 1: I would question whether it is a poor analogy, because
37:06
Speaker 1: of course she's going to robustly defend the teaching profession
37:09
Speaker 1: because it's the teaching profession that she needs in order
37:12
Speaker 1: to sell her product into the schools in the first place,
37:16
Speaker 1: she needs the teachers on board. But I would suggest
37:19
Speaker 1: very strongly that this is the end of the teaching profession.
37:22
Speaker 1: And why because, of course, if teaching is being done
37:25
Speaker 1: by AI, the behavior is being tracked by AI, then
37:31
Speaker 1: every student gets a very tailored education which hopefully brings
37:37
Speaker 1: them and frames their minds in the way that the
37:40
Speaker 1: AI is programmed to frame their minds. Now, if you
37:43
Speaker 1: want to get any more background on this, you should
37:46
Speaker 1: watch the interview that Debbie Evans had with Ben Rubin
37:50
Speaker 1: back on the third of August last year entitled Master
37:53
Speaker 1: of Puppets The Future of Britain which covers this issue
37:57
Speaker 1: and this organization in a little bit more detail. And
38:01
Speaker 1: then in the meantime then I want to mention this
38:04
Speaker 1: because Tascal Mobile has decided to help fund Digital Matters,
38:08
Speaker 1: So Tesco Mobile, they say, is expanding a partnership with
38:12
Speaker 1: Internet Matters. This is a not for profit which offers
38:17
Speaker 1: Internet safety advice. And what are they doing while they're
38:21
Speaker 1: basically looking at creating things like the Little Digital Helps Toolkit,
38:27
Speaker 1: and they produce lesson packs for teachers so teachers don't
38:31
Speaker 1: have to think for themselves. They just regurgitate the lesson
38:34
Speaker 1: PACs covering such as areas as misinformation and disinformation. So
38:40
Speaker 1: the agenda is enforced and the teachers need to waken
38:45
Speaker 1: up I think, to what they're being asked to promote.
38:49
Speaker 1: But let's move on, Venessa, to the issue of smart cities.
38:55
Speaker 7: Yeah.
38:55
Speaker 6: What I wanted to try to sort of to make
38:59
Speaker 6: the actions between what is happening right now in West
39:02
Speaker 6: Asia with Israel introducing the New Order in the Blessing
39:08
Speaker 6: and curse maps and so on, and how that basically
39:12
Speaker 6: interlinked with what is also coming and has been coming
39:15
Speaker 6: for some time in the West, because I think it's
39:18
Speaker 6: very easy to disconnect the two. So I'm going to
39:21
Speaker 6: have a quick look at Azerbaijan, which is of course
39:25
Speaker 6: on the border with Iran, and the small section then Nagano.
39:32
Speaker 7: Carrabac, Cataback thank you.
39:36
Speaker 6: Or Atsak as it's known by the Armenians, and of
39:39
Speaker 6: course that was a majority Armenian area that has effectively
39:43
Speaker 6: now been occupied by Azerbaijan, and as I said.
39:47
Speaker 7: Is right on the border there with Iran.
39:50
Speaker 6: Remember the curse map Iran is included in the direction
39:55
Speaker 6: of travel at the end of that journey of expansionism.
40:00
Speaker 7: So then let's have a look very quickly.
40:02
Speaker 6: At the historic connection between Israel and Azerbaijan.
40:05
Speaker 7: So this was back in June last year.
40:07
Speaker 6: Ninety two flights from Israeli based reveal arms exports to Azerbaijan.
40:12
Speaker 6: Peretz investigation reveals dozens of cargo flights from Baku to
40:16
Speaker 6: Israeli airstrip used for the export of explosives. Israel sells
40:21
Speaker 6: Azerbaijan weaponry worth billions, and per sources, receives oil and
40:26
Speaker 6: access to Iran. Tensions between Azerbaijan and both Iran and
40:31
Speaker 6: Armenia have ruptured up recently, so let's have a look
40:35
Speaker 6: at what that includes. So they've had a strategic alliance
40:38
Speaker 6: with Azerbaijan for the past two decades and they sell
40:42
Speaker 6: the large Shiite majority country weapons worth billions. In return,
40:46
Speaker 6: Azerbaijan supplies Israel with oil and access to Iran. According
40:52
Speaker 6: to foreign media reports, Azerbaijan has allowed the MASSA to
40:55
Speaker 6: set up forward branch to monitor what is happening in Iran,
40:58
Speaker 6: Azerbaijan's nigh to the south, and is even prepared an
41:02
Speaker 6: airfield and tended to aid Israel in case it decides to.
41:05
Speaker 7: Attack Iranian nuclear sites.
41:08
Speaker 6: Reports from two years ago stated that the Mossad agents
41:11
Speaker 6: who stole the Iranian nuclear archives smuggled it to Israel
41:15
Speaker 6: via Azerbaijan, and according to official reports from Azerbaijan, over
41:19
Speaker 6: the years, Israel has sold it the most advanced weapons
41:22
Speaker 6: systems including ballistic missiles, air defense and electronic warfare warfare
41:27
Speaker 6: systems can it CARSI.
41:28
Speaker 7: Drones and more.
41:30
Speaker 6: And of course we shouldn't forget that the helicopter of
41:32
Speaker 6: President Asi and Foreign Minister Abdulhayan of Iran crashed very.
41:38
Speaker 7: Close to the border with Azerbaijan.
41:41
Speaker 6: So coming forward, Israel offered Azerbaijan Corporation to create smart cities.
41:48
Speaker 6: Guess were in Igna Kerabach, so in an area basically
41:53
Speaker 6: that is occupied and inhabited by majority Armenians.
41:58
Speaker 7: This you can freeze frame and read.
42:00
Speaker 6: I'm not going to read all of it, but clearly
42:02
Speaker 6: the smart city is exactly what we know it to be,
42:05
Speaker 6: a way to control information, to control your electricity and
42:10
Speaker 6: water supply and usage, to control education, to control your movements,
42:16
Speaker 6: or at least to surveil your movements, exactly as we
42:21
Speaker 6: expect it to be in the West when they are
42:25
Speaker 6: introduced or are being introduced. This then becomes of course interesting.
42:29
Speaker 6: This connects back to Palestine. This is a documentary made
42:33
Speaker 6: by mint Press news Mana Adlie Automated Apartheid walking through
42:38
Speaker 6: Hebron Smart City. And remember we've talked about Unit eight
42:43
Speaker 6: two hundred, the various tech startups and surveillance startups in
42:48
Speaker 6: Israel that now have their tentacles basically across the West,
42:53
Speaker 6: but particularly in the UK. So let's have a look
42:55
Speaker 6: at what Mana said about. You can go to the
42:58
Speaker 6: mint Press report. The link will be in the notes
43:02
Speaker 6: of course, and you can actually watch the documentary.
43:04
Speaker 7: I do recommend it.
43:06
Speaker 6: So she talks about the largest city in the West
43:09
Speaker 6: Bank where history collides with the modern hum of daily life.
43:14
Speaker 6: This sentinel is not a person, but a network of
43:16
Speaker 6: surveillance technology, known ominously as the Hebron Smart City, designed
43:20
Speaker 6: by Israeli authorities, this system blankets the city in a
43:24
Speaker 6: web of cameras, sensors, and even automated weapons, tracking every
43:29
Speaker 6: movement of its Palestinian residents. Palestinians and hebra And are
43:33
Speaker 6: the most surveiled people on the planet, highlighting the omnipresence
43:38
Speaker 6: of cameras and face scanning technology.
43:40
Speaker 7: Adley says that the area.
43:42
Speaker 6: Also known as Al Khalil Palestinians, has become a testing
43:46
Speaker 6: ground for Israel's surveillance apparatus, with advanced technologies like the
43:50
Speaker 6: Wolfpack surveillance system in operation. This system collects vast amounts
43:55
Speaker 6: of data on Palestinians, including their personal details and movements,
44:00
Speaker 6: creating an atmosphere of constant surveillance even inside the houses
44:06
Speaker 6: of the Palestinians living in Hebron. And of course I
44:10
Speaker 6: have to bring you full cycle in that case, back
44:13
Speaker 6: to the twenty thirty Israel UK Roadmap Bilateral Relations. The
44:20
Speaker 6: Roadmap is an ambitious agreement to ensure the UK and
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Speaker 6: Israel's partnership remains forward looking and continues to innovate to
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Speaker 6: address shared challenges. Let's have a look at this being
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Speaker 6: described not only as a collaboration, but as an actual partnership.
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Speaker 6: Israel and the UK are united in the common belief
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Speaker 6: that a democracy which empowers citizens with the opportunity to innovate,
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Speaker 6: create and fulfill their dreams is the finest form of government.
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Speaker 6: We are clear that democratic norms are the mainstay for
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Speaker 6: maintaining a rules based international system and respect for universal
44:56
Speaker 6: human rights. It's very hard not to feel its extremely
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Speaker 6: ironic about this statement. As outward looking patriotic nations, we
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Speaker 6: know that a mutually prosperous future lies in stronger economic,
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Speaker 6: technological and security ties with like minded partners. In order
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Speaker 6: to meet our ambitions, we will upgrade the institutional mechanisms
45:16
Speaker 6: that enable us to set and achieve goals across our
45:20
Speaker 6: mutual priorities. Now we know for a fact, of course,
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Speaker 6: that that which Israel is looking to introduce into UK
45:27
Speaker 6: society has been developed through genocide in Palestine.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for that, Vanessa, Thank you very much. Charles.
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Speaker 1: That's what I suppose continuing with a theme on this
45:42
Speaker 1: because smart studies of course will have smart cars.
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Speaker 3: Well they will, they may, they might not have very
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Speaker 3: many of them. And just in case I am the
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Speaker 3: only person to have read the Traffic Commissioner's Annual Report
45:56
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, I will put out of it a
45:59
Speaker 3: few d which I think relevance. Firstly, autonomous vehicles. They
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Speaker 3: say that trials continue to be successful. Now that's highly questionable,
46:09
Speaker 3: and the powers are now in place for a potential
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Speaker 3: future role for traffic commissioners in regulating such vehicles. Significant
46:16
Speaker 3: that they have put the powers in place, because the
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Speaker 3: statistics really do not back up that there should be
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Speaker 3: in a position to do that. Nonetheless, self driving vehicles
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Speaker 3: is what we're talking about here, described by Parliament as such.
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Speaker 3: In July twenty twenty two, the Highway Code was updated
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Speaker 3: to clarify that when a self driving vehicle in which
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Speaker 3: the person in the driver's seat may be asked to
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Speaker 3: retake control is in the self driving mode, that person
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Speaker 3: may turn their attention from the road, but must always
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Speaker 3: be able and ready to take control when prompted. So
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Speaker 3: just like you to think a little bit about how
46:54
Speaker 3: that will play out in reality and whether it sounds
46:57
Speaker 3: like a safe option. This is not the case for
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Speaker 3: more limited driver assistance systems, where the drivers are required
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Speaker 3: to exercise proper control as per the highway code at
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Speaker 3: all times. Now. Back in June fourth of June twenty
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Speaker 3: twenty four, Debi Evans referred to the Automated Vehicle's Bill
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Speaker 3: as it then was now the Automated Vehicles Acts twenty
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Speaker 3: twenty four, which tries to pin some of this jelly
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Speaker 3: to the wall, and in talking about the offense of
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Speaker 3: driving in a dangerous state, it puts it like this.
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Speaker 3: It would be an offense if it would have been
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Speaker 3: obvious to a competent and careful user of the vehicle
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Speaker 3: at the moment when the authorized user in charge feature
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Speaker 3: in question was engaged, that the current state of the
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Speaker 3: vehicle would make it dangerous to use it, sorry to
47:52
Speaker 3: use it in the way in which it is being used.
47:56
Speaker 3: And if anyone can make any sense of that, do
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Speaker 3: write in now you'll be wondering where this comes from.
48:03
Speaker 3: Of course, the United Nations, in June twenty twenty they
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Speaker 3: passed Regulation one five seven which was supposed to enforce
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Speaker 3: this across the entire world what's known as automated lane
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Speaker 3: keeping systems. Admittedly that's not the entirety of the autonomous
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Speaker 3: vehicle capability, but what they say is similar to what
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Speaker 3: the government have said. Once activated alcs are in primary
48:28
Speaker 3: control of vehicle. However, the driver must be in a
48:30
Speaker 3: position to respond to a takeover request from the system. Now,
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Speaker 3: this is very much like the AI in the classroom
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Speaker 3: in that if you're not operating this system yourself all
48:43
Speaker 3: the time, then inevitably you're going to become tired and
48:47
Speaker 3: used to the fact that you're not really in control
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Speaker 3: of it, and therefore are you going to be able
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Speaker 3: to respond as quickly as the vehicle system is actually
48:55
Speaker 3: asking you to, which brings us on to this idea
48:58
Speaker 3: of threat, dangers and unforeseen consequences. Are untended consequences of
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Speaker 3: this highlighted very well, I think by the National Accident Helpline,
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Speaker 3: which have summarized the dangers as such, and this is
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Speaker 3: not an exhaustive list. But first of all, and we've
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Speaker 3: seen this before with trials in the United States, who
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Speaker 3: takes responsibility for collisions specifically when these types of mode
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Speaker 3: of autonomous driving are engaged, there is a lack of regulation.
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Speaker 3: There's certainly a lack of clear regulation, and I think
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Speaker 3: that what I've just read out from the Autonomous Vehicles
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Speaker 3: Act highlights that exact point skill fade, which is what
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Speaker 3: I was just referring to, in that the less people drive,
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Speaker 3: the less able they will be to drive. Their reactions
49:44
Speaker 3: will fade. To vehicles like this course of prone to hacking,
49:48
Speaker 3: so in effect, anybody can take control of them. There's
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Speaker 3: an increased radiation threat. With all the various devices like GPS,
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Speaker 3: Wi Fi, Bluetooth, and indeed all the LED lighting coming
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Speaker 3: off these things, there is the health threat of radiation
50:04
Speaker 3: within the vehicle. There are then, of course the ever
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Speaker 3: increasing lithium ion battery fires, which in fact have been
50:12
Speaker 3: reported on to it. I think it's eBay have just
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Speaker 3: been prohibited from selling such things due to the regularity
50:20
Speaker 3: with which fires are starting. And then of course there
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Speaker 3: is the failure of the technology, which no one ever
50:26
Speaker 3: wants to admit to being a possibility, but in effect
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Speaker 3: the glitches in the system which will mean that the
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Speaker 3: vehicle will be unable to respond to a threat in
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Speaker 3: the road, an obstacle like a pedestrian like a child
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Speaker 3: for example, or just simply a road barrier. And if
50:43
Speaker 3: you can stay on for News Extra today, please do
50:46
Speaker 3: because I'm going to ask Mike to recount his experiences
50:50
Speaker 3: with a highkar recently and the degree to which this
50:55
Speaker 3: is already happening and the way in which it's going
50:57
Speaker 3: to go an extraordinary story, So please stay tuned for that.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Charles. Yes we will. Now, of course another
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Speaker 1: aspect of smart sites, it's digital ID. So let's talk
51:06
Speaker 1: about that for a little while because here is a
51:08
Speaker 1: blog post from Martin len Fox which is entitled Working
51:12
Speaker 1: in the Open Digital Government in the UK in twenty
51:15
Speaker 1: twenty four and so, the UK government has created a
51:19
Speaker 1: panel of tech experts which is co chaired by Martina
51:23
Speaker 1: Lean Fox and this is to steer the government's digital
51:27
Speaker 1: strategy with the aim of changing the landscape of public services.
51:32
Speaker 1: And this group is consisting of leaders from academia and industry.
51:36
Speaker 1: They say it's tasked with creating a tenure vision for
51:40
Speaker 1: a digital center for government. And so what they've done
51:42
Speaker 1: is that they've merged three Cabinet office and number ten
51:45
Speaker 1: units with the Department for Science, Innovation and Technology in
51:49
Speaker 1: order to consolidate efforts driving digital transformation. So this is
51:54
Speaker 1: something we've got to look forward to. This is coming
51:58
Speaker 1: in parallel with the new Digital Infrastructure, Services and Development Bill,
52:03
Speaker 1: which replaces the Data Protection and Digital Information Bill, contains
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Speaker 1: most of the same kind of stuff, includes, for example,
52:11
Speaker 1: provisions on digital identity and also on data protection which
52:15
Speaker 1: actually means data sharing, enabling data sharing, particularly internationally, with
52:20
Speaker 1: a focus on data preservation, particularly in relation to online safety.
52:23
Speaker 1: They say, so, of course digital ID being used is
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Speaker 1: one of the mechanisms for implementing the Online Safety Act.
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Speaker 1: It's not just in the UK. The European Commission has
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Speaker 1: just proposed digital passports and ID cards for easier travel,
52:38
Speaker 1: and they're saying that both EU citizens and non EU
52:41
Speaker 1: citizens are subject to systematic checks in person when crossing
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Speaker 1: the US external borders, and that therefore the Commission has
52:49
Speaker 1: put forward a common framework for the use of digital
52:52
Speaker 1: travel credentials and a new EU Digital Travel app for
52:56
Speaker 1: travelers to create and store their digital travel credentials. Which
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Speaker 1: is very convenient because at roughly the same time that
53:03
Speaker 1: that was announced, a so called important development has emerged
53:07
Speaker 1: from the International Identity and Verifiable Credentials summit held in
53:12
Speaker 1: Australia on the third and fourth of October, and this
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Speaker 1: proof of concept demonstration showcased the successful validation of digital
53:20
Speaker 1: credentials across three continents North America, Europe and Australia. But
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Speaker 1: it's not just the big organizations. It's oh well, first
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Speaker 1: of all, we'll just show a LinkedIn post commenting about
53:32
Speaker 1: how great this was as they queued up to show
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Speaker 1: their credentials. But as I say, it's not just the
53:37
Speaker 1: big organizations that are doing this, big multinational organizations, it's
53:41
Speaker 1: also small countries. So Fiji has now decided to put
53:44
Speaker 1: a three year deadline timeline on their rollout of national
53:48
Speaker 1: Digital ID. So digital ID going ahead very quickly and
53:53
Speaker 1: very strongly, unless people decide to argue against it. Perhaps
53:59
Speaker 1: where does that take us? Charles Well? Net zero and
54:03
Speaker 1: carbon capture perhaps another aspect of the smart study.
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Speaker 3: Almost certainly, but we must be questioning the word smart
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Speaker 3: by now. Yes, the Department for Energy Security and Net
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Speaker 3: Zero announcing with great pride they've pledged twenty two billion
54:21
Speaker 3: pounds into what's called carbon capture and we have referred
54:25
Speaker 3: to it on the news before. But essentially it's the
54:27
Speaker 3: idea that by putting carbon dioxide underground, you may expect
54:31
Speaker 3: the temperature of the whole world to change. So they
54:35
Speaker 3: say that they're launching a new clean energy industry. Obviously
54:39
Speaker 3: this is via Twitter. Where else they say that they're
54:42
Speaker 3: tackling climate change, and there are a couple of projects
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Speaker 3: going live on Merseyside and Teeside. CCUS carbon capture Utilization
54:52
Speaker 3: and Storage technology removes CO two emissions before it reaches
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Speaker 3: the atmosphere and stores it safely beneath the seabed using
54:59
Speaker 3: trident technology that's been deployed for over twenty years now
55:03
Speaker 3: stores it safely is underlined, and I will come back
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Speaker 3: to explaining why that is in a second. Here's a
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Speaker 3: diagram showing an oil an oil drilling platform and then
55:14
Speaker 3: something on shore, which of course would be creating lots
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Speaker 3: of combdox side. Which is why when they say that
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Speaker 3: CCS carbon catch from storage is critical to the UK
55:23
Speaker 3: achieving net zero, The government aims to capture and stare
55:26
Speaker 3: twenty to thirty million tons of common dock side by
55:29
Speaker 3: twenty thirty and then fifty million by twenty thirty five.
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Speaker 3: These figures are obviously largely irrelevant because so far no
55:35
Speaker 3: target on carbon capture has ever been met, but nonetheless,
55:39
Speaker 3: what is clear is that even attempting to do this
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Speaker 3: costs an awful lot of money. Refers to a variety
55:44
Speaker 3: of processes, and they capture and store comdox side emissions,
55:49
Speaker 3: generally from industrial processes. This common dox i can then
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Speaker 3: be transported, including via repurposed gas pipelines, and stored, for example,
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Speaker 3: within rock formations in the UKCS My apologies, I can't
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Speaker 3: remember what CS stands for, but I think it's it
56:03
Speaker 3: must be something to do with the seabed, including depleted
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Speaker 3: oil and gas reservoirs. And now the reason I've highlighted
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Speaker 3: industrial process is what they really mean are petrochemical plants
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Speaker 3: on shore and then pumping the cobbondox side that they're
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Speaker 3: producing away and back under the sea bed, including depleted
56:22
Speaker 3: oil and gas reservoirs, even being suggested that cobbon dox
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Speaker 3: side could be used as a flashing agent with which
56:27
Speaker 3: to push out oil and gas. So in actual fact,
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Speaker 3: this has absolutely nothing to do with reducing carbon dioxide content,
56:37
Speaker 3: but all to do with furthering the interests of the
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Speaker 3: petrochemical industry. Going back to safety, here an article from
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Speaker 3: the National talking about a pipe explosion, raising fears about
56:47
Speaker 3: Scottish carbon catch plans. This was in February twenty twenty
56:50
Speaker 3: in Satartia in Mississippi, where fifty people were hospitalized foaming
56:56
Speaker 3: at the mouth, unconscious after being poisoned by a common
56:59
Speaker 3: doox leak. And then we had another example more recently
57:03
Speaker 3: in interestingly named Tone of Sulfur in Louisiana, where effectively
57:08
Speaker 3: the same thing happened. So the incredible irony, of course
57:11
Speaker 3: in suggesting that carbon dioxide is dangerous when it isn't.
57:14
Speaker 3: They then concentrate it to the point where it does
57:17
Speaker 3: become an asfixiant and intoxicant and is then ready to
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Speaker 3: harm anybody in the vicinity should there be a leak.
57:24
Speaker 3: But of course we now have to examine the incredible
57:27
Speaker 3: arrogance of the climate's science body, and indeed the complete
57:32
Speaker 3: ignorance of any unintended consequences. The Scientific American asked several
57:36
Speaker 3: years ago does rise in carbon dioxide benefit plants? Effectively
57:41
Speaker 3: asked the question, if carbon dioxide levels are increasing and
57:45
Speaker 3: they cannot be attributed to man, is this because there
57:48
Speaker 3: is a requirement for more carbon dioxide in order to
57:51
Speaker 3: stimulate plant growth? Because we are bashing so many plants down.
57:56
Speaker 3: A scientist there, Richard Norby, said that you can't just
57:58
Speaker 3: look at carbon dioxide because the overall context really matters. Well,
58:02
Speaker 3: that seems to be a lesson not learned. As we
58:04
Speaker 3: continue to look only at carbon dioxide, we go on
58:08
Speaker 3: to see why these things happen, and in particular concerning lobbying,
58:12
Speaker 3: and back in January of this year, the then Green
58:16
Speaker 3: Party MP Caroline Lucas drew attention to this by saying,
58:20
Speaker 3: in spring twenty twenty three OEUK board members of Harbor
58:25
Speaker 3: Energy and Equinor met with Treasury officials. The minutes, secured
58:28
Speaker 3: by a freedom of information request state that the Equinor
58:32
Speaker 3: reps smiled at the government's reinsurances. Yes, I am sure
58:36
Speaker 3: they did, And indeed she's quite right. When we look
58:39
Speaker 3: at Transparency International's very good database of the lobbying of
58:46
Speaker 3: government at OpenAccess dot transparency dot org, you're able to
58:50
Speaker 3: look up very readily how many engagements have taken place
58:53
Speaker 3: between industry and government, and it is an awful lot.
58:58
Speaker 3: And I'll just round off by saying, but this really
59:00
Speaker 3: is a good business to be in. On the government's
59:03
Speaker 3: contract finder at the minute, there is a four point
59:06
Speaker 3: four million pound contract for an organization who will write
59:12
Speaker 3: the policy on standards and methodologies of greenhouse gas removals
59:17
Speaker 3: so effectively with this technology, there's no need for it
59:21
Speaker 3: to work or for it to make any sense, but
59:23
Speaker 3: there is an awful lot of money in it.
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Speaker 1: Yes, indeed there is. Thank you very much, Charles Well.
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Speaker 1: That brings us to the end of today's program. Thanks
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Speaker 1: to Charles and Vanessa for joining, Thank you all for watching.
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Speaker 1: As Charles mentioned, we'll be having a slightly interesting conversation
59:41
Speaker 1: about automation in cars in Extra in a few minutes time,
59:46
Speaker 1: but do join us for that of your UK column member. Otherwise,
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Speaker 1: don't forget the interview with Chris covered El one pm
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Speaker 1: tomorrow and we'll see you at one pm as usual
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Speaker 1: on Friday for another news program. See you then, Bye
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