Latest / Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning / Ohio State vs. Texas: Schematic Preview with Ross Fulton and Justin Whitlatch

Transcript

Ohio State vs. Texas: Schematic Preview with Ross Fulton and Justin Whitlatch · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes Tomorrow Morning for Tuesday, August twenty sixth
• 0:02
  Speaker 1: Thom your host Tom Moore, The Texas game in four days.
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: The game It's Michigan in ninety five days. Mean welcoming
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: back in. Justin Whitlatch and Ross Fulton to do some
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: x's and o's breakdown today, have them on the show.
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: We are sponsored by jeff Rubies of Columbus, proudly offering
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: nationally acclaimed USDA Prime Stakes, seafood and sushi, impeccable service,
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: live entertainment, and an attention to detail that is simply unmatched.
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: Just go to Jeffrey dot com slash Columbus to check
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: out the menu and make it reservation today. All right,
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: so we got to talk about the Texas Ohio State game.
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: It is a little bit of a hot topic in
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: Columbus and really around the nation this week. And these
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: two teams they just played back in January. In fact,
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: Texas's last time on the football field was down in
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: the Cotton Bowl against Ohio State. The podcasts had played
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: one game since then. You may remember that one was
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: in Atlanta, but man, that game in the in the
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: Cotton Bowl was an absolute classic. But one of the
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: big storylines from that game while that Texas was able
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: to completely lock down Jeremiah Smith in a way that
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: no one else was able to do last year. Just
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: one catch for three yards. So okay, question number one,
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: how did they do that? So going to welcome in
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: Ross and Justin Ross, let's start with you. Okay, how
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: did Texas do that against Jeremiah Smith because no one
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: else was able to do that last year.
• 1:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's a combination of things.
• 1:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think I could find a couple of
• 1:27
  Speaker 3: plays early on, particularly I think Will Howard missed Smith.
• 1:32
  Speaker 2: They had a nice design on the.
• 1:33
  Speaker 3: First series for an explosive play to Smith at Howard
• 1:39
  Speaker 3: missed them. But you know, I mean the long and
• 1:40
  Speaker 3: the short of it is Texas played a lot of
• 1:43
  Speaker 3: cover two concepts or kept a deep safety over the top,
• 1:50
  Speaker 3: you know, in varying forms and also got I think
• 1:53
  Speaker 3: we will show a lot of depth with their linebackers
• 1:57
  Speaker 3: as well to try to.
• 1:58
  Speaker 2: Get into intermediate passing lands.
• 2:00
  Speaker 3: There they really were just playing like a pretty conservative
• 2:03
  Speaker 3: like we're going to keep a safety over the top,
• 2:05
  Speaker 3: We're going to try to get our linebackers with blood
• 2:06
  Speaker 3: of depth and so like justin you know, hopefully grab
• 2:10
  Speaker 3: some some clips to show that. So like the first play,
• 2:14
  Speaker 3: you know the High States in the low red zone
• 2:17
  Speaker 3: and Texas is running basically covered zero if you will.
• 2:21
  Speaker 3: I mean it's man to cross, but they keep a
• 2:23
  Speaker 3: safety over the top. So you have a Meca Buka
• 2:27
  Speaker 3: and Jeremiah Smith to the left side together and that
• 2:31
  Speaker 3: safety is basically just acting like a cover two safety,
• 2:33
  Speaker 3: right Like he's just keeping over the top of the
• 2:36
  Speaker 3: they run like a little slam shoot and so he's
• 2:38
  Speaker 3: just on top of Smith, and so that gives a
• 2:40
  Speaker 3: one on one opportunity for Cardinal Tate to the opposite side.
• 2:43
  Speaker 3: And you know, it's new coincidence that that Tate had
• 2:46
  Speaker 3: a big game against Texas in response. You know, obviously
• 2:50
  Speaker 3: one of the benefits I say it has is a
• 2:52
  Speaker 3: pretty deep wide receiver corp. They're going to be missing
• 2:55
  Speaker 3: the Meca Buca but still pretty talented and obviously you
• 2:58
  Speaker 3: had Max, so you know, take away one thing, but
• 3:02
  Speaker 3: I think you're I would presume you're going to see
• 3:05
  Speaker 3: a lot of similar from Texas to identify or four
• 3:09
  Speaker 3: is and keep a safety over the top and get
• 3:14
  Speaker 3: a linebacker depth in their drops.
• 3:15
  Speaker 2: As well.
• 3:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely I agree with Ross. I pulled a
• 3:20
  Speaker 4: couple of different clips. With the first one, like he
• 3:22
  Speaker 4: was just talking about, is you've got to cover one
• 3:25
  Speaker 4: look across the board, and then you've got the field
• 3:28
  Speaker 4: safety that's gonna be like the double four that you
• 3:30
  Speaker 4: heard of the Patriots all the time, So that's like
• 3:32
  Speaker 4: a pretty much one double four. You have the boundary
• 3:35
  Speaker 4: safety that's a line up on the tight end. And
• 3:37
  Speaker 4: a big reason I pulled this clip that a Ross
• 3:39
  Speaker 4: has already alluded to is you're going to be a
• 3:41
  Speaker 4: man up across the board. And I know Day has
• 3:43
  Speaker 4: talked about in the past if we're going to get
• 3:45
  Speaker 4: match cover or man on man coverage, somebody's got to win.
• 3:48
  Speaker 4: And obviously here Carnel Tait wins. But I think with
• 3:52
  Speaker 4: the tight end room and having Max Clair, I think
• 3:54
  Speaker 4: this would be a big opportunity for the tight ends
• 3:57
  Speaker 4: to be one on one with that drop down safety,
• 3:59
  Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of room to work with
• 4:01
  Speaker 4: with with the safety or the safety on the tight end.
• 4:04
  Speaker 4: So I just think there's gonna be a lot of
• 4:06
  Speaker 4: opportunities for guys to win. They just got to win,
• 4:08
  Speaker 4: and that's gonna be the big point of emphasis this week.
• 4:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I mean we can we can run
• 4:13
  Speaker 3: you through like a host of clips showing you know,
• 4:15
  Speaker 3: similar concepts, right, So like Justin healthy grabbed you know
• 4:18
  Speaker 3: the second one, it's second and twenty after a holding call.
• 4:23
  Speaker 3: So there's like, obviously Texas has the benefit of yardage
• 4:26
  Speaker 3: tip to play with as well. But again, like a
• 4:28
  Speaker 3: soft cover two, you got two really deep safeties. Linebackers
• 4:32
  Speaker 3: are getting a lot of depth, so it's a it's
• 4:34
  Speaker 3: an all.
• 4:34
  Speaker 2: Curl or curl flat concept from Ohio State.
• 4:37
  Speaker 3: Uh so you got both the linebacker and the corner
• 4:39
  Speaker 3: sitting on Smith right off his curl route, and so
• 4:43
  Speaker 3: you know, power checks it down to Chief Scott, which, again,
• 4:46
  Speaker 3: like I think to Justin's point, is another example of
• 4:50
  Speaker 3: you know, there's gonna be opportunities there for other guys
• 4:53
  Speaker 3: if Texas uses this kind of scheme. And you know,
• 4:56
  Speaker 3: I think ideally for Io State, Max Claire had sort
• 4:58
  Speaker 3: of a different demension at tight end compared to what
• 5:02
  Speaker 3: Ohio State had last year to take advantage of some
• 5:05
  Speaker 3: of that soft room in the middle.
• 5:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that too, And a big thing
• 5:10
  Speaker 4: I saw with the film that was pretty consistent if
• 5:12
  Speaker 4: they're in zone coverage, he's going to be capped by
• 5:15
  Speaker 4: a safety, whoever the boundary safety field safety, because Texas
• 5:18
  Speaker 4: defense they're a field and boundary defense, meaning they're going
• 5:21
  Speaker 4: to flip guys to the field and guys to the boundary.
• 5:24
  Speaker 4: So if they're going to be in zone covers, they're
• 5:26
  Speaker 4: going to cap him with a safety. And if they're
• 5:28
  Speaker 4: going to be in man typically they're going to be
• 5:30
  Speaker 4: one double four and they you're going to be man
• 5:31
  Speaker 4: across the board elsewhere.
• 5:34
  Speaker 5: It's not a heavy pressure team.
• 5:35
  Speaker 4: If they do pressure, they like to bring safe pressures,
• 5:38
  Speaker 4: which we'll get you later, but it's gonna be a
• 5:40
  Speaker 4: lot of four man pressures.
• 5:42
  Speaker 5: But he's going to be capped.
• 5:43
  Speaker 4: So you've got to figure out ways to get him
• 5:45
  Speaker 4: the ball where he's just not sitting on the line
• 5:47
  Speaker 4: of scrimmage. And I know Ross and I have talked
• 5:49
  Speaker 4: about I think this is a big week to move
• 5:52
  Speaker 4: him around in motion to get him opportunity to get
• 5:55
  Speaker 4: a free release off the line of scrimmage. You've got
• 5:57
  Speaker 4: to be able to communicate defensively how you're going to
• 5:59
  Speaker 4: cap him if he's going to move, and that as
• 6:01
  Speaker 4: a defensive coordinator that's gonna be really hard to do.
• 6:03
  Speaker 4: So I think the more you move him back and
• 6:05
  Speaker 4: forth across the formation or even stacking him, it's going
• 6:08
  Speaker 4: to be really hard to cap him.
• 6:09
  Speaker 5: So I think going to the game plan this week,
• 6:11
  Speaker 5: I think they.
• 6:13
  Speaker 4: Need to do a good job of formationing and giving
• 6:16
  Speaker 4: him motions to where he's going to have a free release.
• 6:18
  Speaker 4: And it's going to cause a defense to really communicate
• 6:20
  Speaker 4: post snap because they're going to be nineteen to twenty
• 6:23
  Speaker 4: two year olds.
• 6:24
  Speaker 5: How to get them to be able to communicate?
• 6:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I like the idea of, you know, bring
• 6:28
  Speaker 3: him in motion across the formation almost like off like
• 6:30
  Speaker 3: almost a wing right off the tight end, you know,
• 6:33
  Speaker 3: kind of keep him covered protected against it easy to cap.
• 6:37
  Speaker 3: And so then they're gonna have to shift from you know,
• 6:39
  Speaker 3: like if he's an outside receiver, you kind of have
• 6:41
  Speaker 3: a code and you can bracket a slot. But that's
• 6:43
  Speaker 3: a lot of communication, as you're saying, to happen really
• 6:46
  Speaker 3: quickly to switch from. Okay, now we're going to have
• 6:48
  Speaker 3: to totally change the type of bracket coverage for playing.
• 6:51
  Speaker 4: And just think too, if you're going to have to
• 6:53
  Speaker 4: communicate for one guy, that's going to leave three other
• 6:56
  Speaker 4: guys that again you've got to worry about and you've
• 6:58
  Speaker 4: got a game plan for so there's just there's a
• 7:01
  Speaker 4: lot of weapons to be had. It's it's going to
• 7:03
  Speaker 4: be a really big week of how can I dictate matchups?
• 7:06
  Speaker 4: And again that's that's an NFL thing I think is
• 7:08
  Speaker 4: you can formation and motion to get the matchup that
• 7:11
  Speaker 4: you want. And I think that is it's that week
• 7:14
  Speaker 4: for Ohigh State to really get him on a good matchup.
• 7:18
  Speaker 4: Sorry about the school bell there, to get him on
• 7:20
  Speaker 4: a matchup. And then from there, if you can find
• 7:23
  Speaker 4: some other space for Max Claire away from the motion,
• 7:25
  Speaker 4: you kind of create some space to get him one
• 7:27
  Speaker 4: on one opportunities for some deep shots.
• 7:29
  Speaker 5: I just think there's a lot they can do.
• 7:31
  Speaker 4: It's just it's a lot to put in obviously, but
• 7:34
  Speaker 4: again it's a good week to get him on the move.
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: And the one thing you guys had talked about was,
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: you know Ohio State, obviously we'll use twelve personnel quite
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: a bit, and we've heard Max Player's name a bunch
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: already on this show. He brings them that that receiving
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: threat at the tight end position, willcas Merik. They love
• 7:52
  Speaker 1: will kas Merrick as a blocker and they viewed blocking
• 7:55
  Speaker 1: piece of the tight end position as a really key
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: to making the running game go. So, so how does
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: it change things for Texas when Ohio State starts showing
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: twelve personnel on offense.
• 8:05
  Speaker 5: Ross I can start this one. I pulled two different.
• 8:09
  Speaker 4: Clips on the clip eighteen that will show Texas did
• 8:13
  Speaker 4: a couple of different things to twelve personnel.
• 8:15
  Speaker 5: Again, O High State, it's got a really deep room.
• 8:17
  Speaker 4: You can take advantage of getting defenses pretty base in twelve.
• 8:21
  Speaker 5: Because it's heavy, you either.
• 8:22
  Speaker 4: Got to bring a heavier linebacker on the field or
• 8:25
  Speaker 4: you've got to beefing up the front. And Texas is
• 8:27
  Speaker 4: their base defense is at two four five, so they're
• 8:29
  Speaker 4: going to have two d tackles, four linebackers. Both their
• 8:32
  Speaker 4: ends are outside linebacker body types, so they are more
• 8:35
  Speaker 4: pass rushers third down d ns if that makes sense,
• 8:38
  Speaker 4: and then.
• 8:38
  Speaker 5: They play with five dbs. So you got.
• 8:41
  Speaker 4: To determine on defense, do I want to be in
• 8:42
  Speaker 4: a heavy nickel, do I bring a third linebacker in
• 8:45
  Speaker 4: or do I line up in more of a three
• 8:46
  Speaker 4: man front where I walk up my outside backers and
• 8:49
  Speaker 4: then I'm in a fifty two and Texas showed both
• 8:51
  Speaker 4: of those and so on clip eighteen, which is it's
• 8:54
  Speaker 4: a red zone clip, you'll see that they're aligned in
• 8:56
  Speaker 4: a three four defense. They bump down, they're both they're
• 9:00
  Speaker 4: tackles into three techniques, so it almost looks like a barefront.
• 9:03
  Speaker 4: You got a five man front with two backers in
• 9:05
  Speaker 4: the box. That's one way that they took care of
• 9:08
  Speaker 4: twelve personnel. And then there's also they also will just
• 9:11
  Speaker 4: bring in a heavier linebacker and play a four to
• 9:13
  Speaker 4: three personnel into the box. So those are two different
• 9:15
  Speaker 4: ways they've shown. You can take advantage of both of
• 9:17
  Speaker 4: those ways. But that's kind of what they shown last year.
• 9:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean I think again, like you know,
• 9:26
  Speaker 3: it's all about matchups, like if you're going to play,
• 9:29
  Speaker 3: you know again, High States should take advantage, right like
• 9:32
  Speaker 3: a player particularly a sort of like a big a
• 9:35
  Speaker 3: big slot if you will, and kind of you know,
• 9:38
  Speaker 3: push Texas to see how they want to handle that.
• 9:40
  Speaker 3: I presume Texas is going to probably treat them as
• 9:43
  Speaker 3: a tight end until they prove that they don't have to.
• 9:46
  Speaker 3: But you know, like you can again see like on
• 9:49
  Speaker 3: one of the clips, like Ohigh States and twelve right
• 9:51
  Speaker 3: and you're running sort of. But Texas is going to
• 9:54
  Speaker 3: protect themselves by still playing like a Tampa right or
• 9:57
  Speaker 3: at least like a two four sim pressure with some
• 10:01
  Speaker 3: two deep safeties and like they want to keep capped
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: on Smith and so you know that's giving you easy
• 10:07
  Speaker 3: access throws to the outside. And so you know, I
• 10:10
  Speaker 3: think you'll see Ohio State use some twelve personnel to
• 10:13
  Speaker 3: try to get Texas and heavier looks to throw the football.
• 10:17
  Speaker 5: I agree with that too.
• 10:18
  Speaker 4: And if you look at the clip that we have there, again,
• 10:20
  Speaker 4: like you said, they're too high and everybody knows if
• 10:22
  Speaker 4: you're in too high, you're going to run the ball
• 10:24
  Speaker 4: until they adjust and then once again one high. You
• 10:27
  Speaker 4: can also again take advantage of some shots. But you'll
• 10:29
  Speaker 4: see in the clip here is that we were able
• 10:31
  Speaker 4: to get in twelve. They're staying in too high and
• 10:33
  Speaker 4: we're running split zone and we're able to get moving
• 10:35
  Speaker 4: up front and you give them back just enough room
• 10:37
  Speaker 4: and he's off to the races. So there's a lot
• 10:39
  Speaker 4: of different things you can do out of it. You
• 10:40
  Speaker 4: can get a lot of the matchups that you talked about, all.
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: Right, And then one more thing that we had talked
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: about is Texas and their use of SIM pressure, and
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: that's something that can create confusion upfront, and it's a
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: way to sort of be a little bit of a
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: force maximizer where if you can't necessarily win straight up,
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: you can you can sometimes create a mismatch, create a
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: two on one kind of situation just by confusing the
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: opposing team. So let's let's see some examples of Texas
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: using sim pressure.
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: So, like you know, Justin's talked about this a lot
• 11:10
  Speaker 3: in our preview last week in terms of like, you know,
• 11:12
  Speaker 3: this will I think the concededly they're on the road,
• 11:17
  Speaker 3: so they don't have the benefit of the crowd noise
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: they had somewhat last December or January whenever it was,
• 11:22
  Speaker 3: but they have you know, obviously you're going to try
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: to confuse a quarterback, and you know that's one of
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: the benefits of sort of playing the two four five
• 11:31
  Speaker 3: look that Justin's talking about. You can bring bring pressure
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: from different guys and you need to by necessity. And
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: so you know this clip again, like you will see
• 11:42
  Speaker 3: Texas still keeping two deep safeties and particularly to the
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: side of Jeremi Smith, like that boundary safety is bailing
• 11:48
  Speaker 3: immediately right, like he's getting he's got thirty yards of depth.
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: He is not.
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: They're not going to let Jeremi Smith get over the
• 11:55
  Speaker 3: top of them, right, And so you're just trying to
• 11:58
  Speaker 3: force the football else where.
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: And for you know, here are they forcing a tight window.
• 12:03
  Speaker 3: But you know you'll see a lot from them, you know,
• 12:06
  Speaker 3: not just like man sim pressures, but a lot of
• 12:09
  Speaker 3: zone pressures. And you know, keeping as I said, like
• 12:11
  Speaker 3: two deep four under right, so you're still bringing five,
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: but you kind of still have that cover two structure.
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: Uh, you know, Cover three they'll role to coverage.
• 12:20
  Speaker 3: So again, I think it's just gonna be it's gonna
• 12:22
  Speaker 3: be a lot of pressure on saying as a new quarterback,
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: offensive line gelling together to handle those, particularly when Ohio
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: State gets behind the chain. So I'm you know, I
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: think it's kind of a true as I'm obviously in general,
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: but staying ahead to schedule will be important.
• 12:38
  Speaker 4: I one hundred percent agree, And I like to focus
• 12:40
  Speaker 4: more from the back end perspective of how you're going
• 12:42
  Speaker 4: to protect that up front, and there's a couple of
• 12:45
  Speaker 4: different schools of thought on how to protect it. And
• 12:47
  Speaker 4: you'll see in the clip that we have here, they're
• 12:49
  Speaker 4: all high states and a half slide. So from the center,
• 12:51
  Speaker 4: left guard, and left tackle, they're on a half slide. Okay,
• 12:54
  Speaker 4: they've got a three on four if that makes sense,
• 12:56
  Speaker 4: because Texas has a nose. Okay, they've got a four eye.
• 12:59
  Speaker 4: They get a line head up on the guard, and
• 13:01
  Speaker 4: then they've got a d n or outside linebacker walked
• 13:03
  Speaker 4: up as a five. So one of those guys you
• 13:06
  Speaker 4: have to give to the back. And I'm interested to
• 13:09
  Speaker 4: see on if they're going to be able to communicate
• 13:11
  Speaker 4: this on Saturday. Because you've got a couple of new
• 13:13
  Speaker 4: guys up front, you've got a new quarterback. How are
• 13:15
  Speaker 4: we going to communicate that? Are we just going to
• 13:17
  Speaker 4: have one type of protection? So I'm interested to see
• 13:20
  Speaker 4: what that protection is. And I'm sure it's gonna be
• 13:21
  Speaker 4: half slide, but we can we communicate of who we're
• 13:24
  Speaker 4: going to half slide to. And when you have slide,
• 13:28
  Speaker 4: you always want the furthest guy away from the ball
• 13:31
  Speaker 4: to be the guy that we love to leave unblocked,
• 13:33
  Speaker 4: either for your quarterback or for your running back. So
• 13:35
  Speaker 4: they're keeping the back end of this protection, so they're
• 13:38
  Speaker 4: going to leave the linebacker that they bring through the
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: backside a for the back. And again you've got a
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: new back this year as well to new backs, so
• 13:47
  Speaker 4: it's going to be interesting to see if they're able
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: to protect this, if they're going to be able to
• 13:50
  Speaker 4: hold up against their mic and their will whoever brings pressure,
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: so and so away from the half slide, you're going
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: to be a man on man or big on big.
• 13:58
  Speaker 4: So you got right guard here on your three tech
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: and then you've got your right tackle on the five
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: tack who's a dropper. So anytime you're running a sim
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: pressure or like a mugged up look like this and
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: you jump a guy that typically doesn't you want to
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: attack that side because they're not used to playing in space.
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: And I think that's why Will Howard's eyes go here first,
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: as he wants to be able to attack a DN
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: that never really plays in space. So a lot of
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: different ways to skin a cat. But I do think
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: we'll get half slide, and I just want to see
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: how we communicate.
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: All right, So now we've got to talk a little
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: bit about the Ohio State defense and how they're going
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: to defend Texas's offense. And I'm going to get let
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: you in a little YouTube secret here. I'm going to
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: put arch Manning's name in the headline for this video,
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: because if I put arch Manning's name in the headline
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: for the video, Everyone's going to click on it to
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: be the same content. We're going to talk about arch
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: Maanning in a minute. Don't worry. Hang on one second.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: We'll get to Archmanning, who everyone wants to talk about archmanding.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: But I feel like the conversation with Texas on offense
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: this year, you got to start up front, right where's
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: the game? Won and lost one and lost in the trenches. So, okay,
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: Texas is the offensive line. They're replacing a bunch of
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: starters and injuries on the offensive line. One guy's out
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: for the season, another guy was kind of banged up,
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: and we'll see how that all sort of sorts out.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: But it feels like their running back room is pretty
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: talented this year. So before we get to archbanding and
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: the passing game, I look at the offensive line and
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: I think that might be a concern. And I look
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: at the running backs and go, that might be an
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: opportunity for Texas. So where do you guys, I guess
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: start justin. We'll start with you. Where do you you
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: you know East Texas going to be able to run
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: the ball against Ohio State, and if so, how would
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: you go about doing it? Are you know what blocking scheme?
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: And where are you trying to attack on the ohiow stated.
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: I trust start to figure out what that is.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: If they're not going to be very good upfront, and
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: you could see from last year's game that he uses
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: a lot of motion and eye candy. He wants to
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: mess with linebacker fits and I assume that's going to
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: be the same as this year.
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: Year ago. There running a little bit of gap in
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: a little bit of.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: Zone if you're not very good upfront, and the High
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: State uses this way of thinking as well. You want
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: to be zone based because A it's simple and then
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: B you really just have to create a stalemate at
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: the point of attack. You don't have to drive guys.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: You just want to give you their good back some vision.
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: So in my mind, I think they're going to use
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: inside outside zone, but they're also going to use a
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: ton of motion, a ton of trading, and you'll see
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: that from the game a year ago. That's just that's
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: a way as a coordinator. What ways can I hide
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: my weaknesses up front? One of those is motioning guys,
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: trading guys, different personnel sets, and I think Sark will
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: definitely utilize all those and then to kind of go
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: off of that, They've got a quarterback that's mobile, So
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: if they're not going to be very good upfront, they're
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: going to leave one unblocked and that's going to give
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: that number to arch So I think that's kind of
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: where they're going to live on Saturday now.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: I guess the next question is how much are you
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: willing ross to be able to run your quarterback? When
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: you have a arch Manning caliber quarterback and then behind him,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: there's kind of a lot of question marks. There's not
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: they don't think they feel like they've got tremendous depth quarterback,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: and there's certainly not the when you were to Archman
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: and kind of drop off from one to one a
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: last year that there was last year. So how does
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: that impact what you're willing to do with your quarterback?
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Or is this like the old Urban Meyer JT. Barrett.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: You're going to run them as much as you need
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: to run them and you'll figure it out later. Yeah.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't see them doing that. I think
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: they'll use it sparingly.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, my bigger concern if I'm Ohio State and
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Matt Patricia is defending RPOs run pass options more so
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: than worrying about him doing a lot of and I
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: think I think in low red zone or short yardage, yes,
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: but I think they'll try to keep him in the
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: five to eight range.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously he scrambles, that's that's a different thing.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: But in terms of call runs, but you know, I
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: think you'll see a high State try to mess with
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: his muddy his RPO reads and so like you know,
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: this is an example from last year for instance, is
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: like Quen yours was reading like Ohio State under Gym
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Knowles at least like to sort of that four across
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: cover four we talked about and yours you know, in
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: this clip like red soft corner coverage to throw to
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: pull and throw the comeback route and the nickel. Jordan
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Hancock jumped underneath the route to break it up right,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: and so like you know, whether yours didn't see him
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: or thought that that was the nickel was part of
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: the run fit and so he had a free access
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: throw there. I think, you know, obviously, again even though
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: we talked about it last week and days discussion at Continuity,
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, it still remains to be seen a little
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: bit what the Ohiosa defense looks like here compared to
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: under gymnoles uh and so hard to entirely guess, but
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: I think that you'll see them, you know, first and foremost,
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: as I said, trying to change up disguise coverages and
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: make things confusing for him on early downs in terms
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: of with the picture he's seen that.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Was going to be. My next question is exactly how
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: different are you expecting the defense to be? Because Continuity
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: is obviously somewhat of a strength, but you're also bringing
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: its one from kind of a different tree than Jim Knowles.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: So justin do you have a sense for and you
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: know I won't hold you to this necessarily, but do
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: you have a sense for exactly how different or maybe
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: some areas where the Ohio States defense or defensive approach
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: might be a little different from what it was last year.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's pretty well known that Day
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: wanted to take like the saving approach this year of
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: where he's going to hire a defensive coordinator. But to
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: run kind of his system, keeping his own terminology. So
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: I don't think there's going to be a lot of
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: change this year. There could be changes in terms of
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: like personnel packages, of maybe moving guys around that they
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: haven't normally done in the past, just because Matt Patricia
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: has done that in the NFL. He's being able to
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: move guys into the box as the MIC on certain downs,
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: certain plays. So I don't really think the structure behind
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: it will change. I just think maybe you can show
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: some different personnel packages and maybe a couple different concepts
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: from those.
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: I mean, what do you think, Ross.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: I mean I think to me, the main difference is
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: going to be at the margins. I think, you know,
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: particularly like on third down, I still am expecting more,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: more sim pressure, more disguise. I think that you'll see
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Caleb Downs moved around more, partially because like you want
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: to maximize Caleb.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Downs no matter who you are.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: But I do think, like to your earlier question about
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: you know, the threat of manning as a runner, particularly
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: like on Sander downs or run situations like that's where
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: I think we'll see Caleb Downs as a nickel or
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: almost as a merror. You know whether we get some
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: of that like three high Tampa with him as the
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: middle linebacker Aztec position. So I just think it's going
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: to be partially just reflect the change in personnel and
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: and partially like some of you know, Matt Patricia's own
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: inclinations as like what to call in this situation, even
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: if it comes from like the overall same structure of
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: the defense.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Now, Ross, I was going to ask you a question
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: to Sarcus really good at changing pace with personnel. So
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: if they let's say they hop into twelve real quick,
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: who who do you think that gives bump back or
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: bump down?
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: How do you see that playing out?
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: No, I mean this is like one of my questions
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: I had I raised on the on the buckeheadle board
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: this weekend was what you know, It's one thing to
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: say like Downs is gonna We're gonna bump him down
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: as the nickel, right, And then I guess the question
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: is do you have to sub to make that happen?
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Like you have to go right?
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Do you have to pull right?
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Like presuming that Lorenzo Styles is the starting nickel, do
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: you have to pull him off the field for Lee
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Krkford having deep safety or can he roll back and
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: be your deep safety like Jordan Hancock did last year?
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Like the versatility and there's trade.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Offs in both, and maybe he can do it well
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: enough that you can get away with it in that
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: kind of tempo situation. But yeah, I agree. I mean
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: I think that you know, it's just it's got to
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: be somewhat difficult. I would think, you know, man, I'll
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: turn it around to you justin like if your stark,
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: what are you prepping for? Like do you you take
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Day at his word that the defense is going to
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: be structurally the same? Like how how do you go
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: about that? That game planning?
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: Your opening scripts usually tells your story, and that's when
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: a lot of people will like to get in heavier
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: sets or getting an unbalanced set like a quad's like
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: a four by zero, just to see who are you
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: going to move and how are you going to do it?
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: Because the more funky you get on offense, the more
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: base defensives get. So I would assume that's what they'll
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: they'll show there. They'll show some crazy looks early just
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: to see how they're going to adjust to it, and
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: then once they figure out how you adjust. Okay, here's
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: our plan of how they adjusted, because they're going to
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: have a lot of if then calls. If they're going
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: to bring downs into the nickel one, they, let's say,
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: bump Styles back. We're going to attack Styles their stop,
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: he's their deep safety, doesn't really play there.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: We're going to attack that.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: And that's and they may keep downs back there and
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: maybe subbing it heavier nickel who knows. But those are
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: just kind of some of the things you're going to
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: think a lot of if then. If they're going to
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: keep downs back there and they're going to bring Styles,
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: is going to stay in the nickel one, we're in
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: a heavier set. Quickly, we're going to run the ball
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: at Styles because he's not really used to playing in
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: the box. He's not a run defender, if that makes sense.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: So a lot of if then, But that's kind of
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: where I see him starting, at least with the game plan.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I know last year, you know, Start
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: definitely sprinkled in twelve personnel because he was trying to
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: get Ohio State to bring a third linebacker in at
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: the time last year, and o High State did it
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: early in the game, not all that successfully. And then
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: they pretty much stopped doing it and basically just kept
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: playing the four two five against even when Texas went
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: to two tight ends. So yeah, I presume that circ
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: will mess around a lot with personnel groupings early to
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: feel it out.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: As you said, I.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: Think that's huge you as a coordinator if you don't
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: have to sub in and out and you can trust
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: guys to play both in the box and out of
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: the box like you're gonna have a pretty good d
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: I'm sure they're there. But again, Circle find the weakness.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know who it's gonna be or where it's
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: going to be, but who will find it? And Paul
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: attack it. He's going to make you either adjust sub
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: in or call time out to get your guys.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to one more for both both
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: of you guys. You and can go to go on this.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I'm interested in your thoughts on you have a rematch
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: and yeah, a new coordinator on the defensive side of
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: the ball for Ohio State. But these teams just play
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: seven and a half months ago. So is that an
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: advantage for the offenses that they've seen how the defenses
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: are going to attack them? And then the offenses have
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: to have all this time to adjust or is this
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: an advantage for defenses because they've seen the offense? And
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: then that is going to lead me into Okay, how
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: is this game playing out? It's just a high scoring game,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: a lot scoring game. Do you see one team having
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: a really big advantage in any one individual area of
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: the game? Justin go ahead, you can go first.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: I'll go from Ohio State's perspective.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: There's continuity there at Texas, so I don't think you're
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: going to see a lot of different change Schematically.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: I think that would give them the advantage. They're going
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: to know what their.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: Base is, what their third down looks look like, what
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: pressures they've used, and they've got a whole bunch of
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: games to go by from a year ago because their
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: DC hasn't He's been a two, four to five guy
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: for a long time.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: So I don't think there's going to be any change
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: there for Sark.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: He's really good at evolving his own offense, so there
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: could be some changes there as to some of the
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: looks that he's showing or tempo. I trust that he
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: will have a great game plan.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: He always will. He's one of the best coordinators in football.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: But I would say advantage wise, O High State has
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: that because there's going to be some consistency.
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: On the Texas side of the ball. Coaching wise, I mean,
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: what do you think.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Ross, Yeah, I mean I tend to lean towards early
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: in this first game of the season.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: The defenses generally are ahead of the offenses.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: I tend to also think the first games tend to
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: be sloppy. You know, they're the old axum in coaching, right,
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: is that you you the best, The biggest improvement is
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: between week one and week two, and so you know
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: when you come out of a game like this, But
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: that applies to both teams, right, like I think they'll
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: be there'll be some sloppiness on both sides. So, like
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: you know, my famous last words is I probably expected
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: a lower scoring defensive game. But you know, as you said,
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: you had the Sark on one saw Ryan Day on
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: the other, and you know a lot of talented players,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: so I guess that could you could also hit some
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: explosives that can change that.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: I mean the old coaching and is too, whoever it
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: makes the least amount of mistakes is going to win
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: the football game.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: So ask what's going to come down to.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: All right, So there you go. There is your wrap
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: up schematic. Look at this week's Ohio State Texas game
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: number one versus number two. Going to be a lot
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: for one of those teams to celebrate on Saturday night.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: And when they do it, they should do it at
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Jeff Ruby's of Columbus, the award winning upscale steakhouse in
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: downtown Columbus Nink one of the top fifty steakhouses in
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: America by Food Network. Just go to Jeff ruby dot
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: com slash Columbus to check out the menu, make then
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: you and make a reservation today. That will do it
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: for today. Thank you guys all for joining us.
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: Have a great day.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you tomorrow.