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We Know Catfishing Is Bad, So What Is ‘Kittenfishing’ And Why Do We All Do It? · I Do, Part 2

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  Speaker 1: Hey, that folks. It is Saturday, June thirteenth, a relationship Saturday, right,
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  Speaker 1: the day we spend so much time with the people
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  Speaker 1: we love, whether that's a romantic relationship or our good friends.
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  Speaker 1: But in your romantic relationships, you've heard about it before.
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  Speaker 1: Has it ever happened to you? Have you ever been catfished? Well,
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  Speaker 1: that sounds terrible, but there's a new dating trend going
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  Speaker 1: on that sounds so much sweeter. Kitten fishing. Oh, welcome
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  Speaker 1: to this episode, Seat Amy and TJ. Kitten fishing. It
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  Speaker 1: sounds like something we should all aspire to.
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  Speaker 2: Well, guess what's so sweet?
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  Speaker 1: Kitenfish?
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  Speaker 3: It's something that the experts say we all do in
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  Speaker 3: different versions.
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  Speaker 1: I have been kitten fished, and I have kitten fished. Somebody,
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  Speaker 1: Is that what we're saying. That's what we're saying, all right,
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  Speaker 1: So apparently this is to make it just really clear.
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  Speaker 1: It's the PG version of catfishing. Basically, it involves telling
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  Speaker 1: little lies about yourself in order to make yourself appear to.
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  Speaker 2: Be more attractive.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, we're talking about adding an inch to your height,
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  Speaker 3: dropping a few lbs to your weight, saying that maybe
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  Speaker 3: you went to a prestigious university when you only took
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  Speaker 3: one course.
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  Speaker 1: So the other word for this is dating.
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  Speaker 2: Or dying?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, okay?
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  Speaker 3: Would they say this often happens Yes, in early stages
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  Speaker 3: of dating and or when you are putting together your
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  Speaker 3: online dating profile, and or they even said this applies
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  Speaker 3: to anyone on Instagram.
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  Speaker 2: If you use a filter on your photo, you.
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  Speaker 3: Are kidden fishing people who and that is where I
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  Speaker 3: say we all then I have to admit I have
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  Speaker 3: absolutely put a.
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  Speaker 2: Filter on a photo.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, but in this for the purpose of attracting men
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  Speaker 1: to you, just for.
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  Speaker 3: The purpose of making other people think I'm more attractive
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  Speaker 3: than I actually am, including men, including everyone.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, see where the problem is coming in. Okay, kittenish,
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  Speaker 1: Is this another situation where this is something that's always
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  Speaker 1: gone on, We're just adding a name to it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, But I actually think, interestingly enough, adding a label
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  Speaker 3: to this kind of makes you think about your own
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  Speaker 3: decisions and activity.
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  Speaker 2: It's so easy to say.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that person's a catfisher, Look what that person lied about.
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  Speaker 3: But if you actually are honest with yourself, how many
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  Speaker 3: of us have said we weigh a little bit less
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  Speaker 3: on our government issued ID. How many of us have
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  Speaker 3: said we're an inch taller than we actually are.
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  Speaker 2: How many of us have put a filter on a photo?
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  Speaker 1: Nope?
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  Speaker 3: Wow, so you are the outlier. Have you ever budged
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  Speaker 3: something just slightly when you knew okay, to make yourself
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  Speaker 3: look a little better or sound a little bit honer.
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  Speaker 1: Paper on paper on paper on a resume. That's lying
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  Speaker 1: on a resume. I'm gonna get caught.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely No, I've never done any of those things. I'm
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  Speaker 3: trying to think. I think one time I said I
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  Speaker 3: was five six because I thought I was, but I
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  Speaker 3: kind of knew I was five five five and a half.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, but you knew you weren't five six. Yeah, just
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  Speaker 1: said you just kittenish.
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  Speaker 2: I tried to kit and fish you on my kitten fishing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so I have.
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  Speaker 3: I remember when I was younger, I said I was
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  Speaker 3: five six when I absolutely knew I was five five.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's great.
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  Speaker 3: I did do that. That was I wasn't even online dating.
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  Speaker 3: I just put that on my ID. And then every
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  Speaker 3: time I pulled out my driver's license, I felt a
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  Speaker 3: little guilty because I knew I wasn't five six. I
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  Speaker 3: have that guilty Catholic heartwart.
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  Speaker 1: Can we get this. Let's just for the sake right
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  Speaker 1: now of clarity and for the sake of openness to
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  Speaker 1: the audience. How tall are you five to five? How
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  Speaker 1: much do you weigh? I'm kidding.
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  Speaker 2: I was the joke that it depends on the day.
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  Speaker 1: Do not answer that that was just a joke. That
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  Speaker 1: was just a joke.
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  Speaker 3: I've never lied about my age, but I actually have
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  Speaker 3: had a friend. I have had a friend we will
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  Speaker 3: not name who that person is, who completely lied about
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  Speaker 3: their age, and it actually was a major issue in
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  Speaker 3: our friend group because this person was so much younger
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  Speaker 3: than they said they were. I don't know that I
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  Speaker 3: would have I actually think it would have felt inappropriate
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  Speaker 3: to hang around them.
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  Speaker 1: You've had other friends, and we were with one recently
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  Speaker 1: still will not say anything about the age.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I have another friend who is refused to say
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  Speaker 3: how old they are for the opposite reason.
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  Speaker 2: They want to be younger than they actually are.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so in both cases, is this a woman.
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  Speaker 2: Well, one was a man and one was a woman.
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  Speaker 2: You're funny.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Wait, so you can't think of one thing? You've
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  Speaker 3: never edited a photo one?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I thought of something, I forgot it. Okay, So
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  Speaker 1: keep going.
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  Speaker 2: Okay because I want to hear.
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  Speaker 3: Because I will say this about you, and this is
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  Speaker 3: part of the reason why maybe some people don't really
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  Speaker 3: understand you, because you are brutally honest and you are
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  Speaker 3: a rare breed of person.
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  Speaker 2: You are the Beatrice in Love Island of the world.
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  Speaker 3: You do say what you think and you mean what
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  Speaker 3: you say, and that is jarring to a lot of people.
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  Speaker 3: But you're also brutally honest about yourself.
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  Speaker 1: Only when asked. That's the thing. I don't volunteer lot
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  Speaker 1: of information about you or your situation and what's going
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  Speaker 1: on that's true. Ask me. I will give you a
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  Speaker 1: direct and an honest answer. That's something I do. The
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  Speaker 1: only thing I can think of ropes and you're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna like this one. I would tell people I'm from
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  Speaker 1: West Memphis. Now I did this as a matter of convenience,
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  Speaker 1: because you know the whole story. And my mom. I
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  Speaker 1: remember after a show at CNN freaking on a Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: I was talking to my weather guy and I said
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  Speaker 1: something about it, I'm from West Memphis. She sent me
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  Speaker 1: a text and said, you are from West Memphis, Arkansas.
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  Speaker 1: It was a little thing I used to do to
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  Speaker 1: where it not to make myself sound better, but it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of convenient just to say, yeah, I'm from West Memphis.
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  Speaker 1: You know the story. If you cross the bridge, you're
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  Speaker 1: in West Memphis, Arkansas. You cross back, you're Memphis, Tennessee.
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  Speaker 1: It was a whole thing. So I would just tell
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  Speaker 1: people I'm from West Memphis. And my mom took that
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  Speaker 1: as me trying to sound like I'm from a cooler
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  Speaker 1: place Memphis. She took it as such.
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  Speaker 3: That's so interesting, she received. Did you mean it that way?
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  Speaker 3: Or is it just easier?
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  Speaker 1: It's easier. I can't explain West Memphis, Arkansas, but I
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  Speaker 1: can explain if I say I'm from West Memphis and
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  Speaker 1: people immediately know barbecue, blues, Elvis, all these things that
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  Speaker 1: I get associated with.
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  Speaker 2: I was you lived ten minutes from Memphis.
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  Speaker 1: It's across the bridge, you know.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny, though. It's funny that you tell me that story.
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  Speaker 2: I have not heard that story before.
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  Speaker 3: And every time I have been around you and people
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  Speaker 3: ask you where you're from, you always say West Memphis, Arkansas.
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  Speaker 2: Now I always hear you say Arkansas.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that funny?
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  Speaker 3: I always hear you explain how it's on the other
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  Speaker 3: side of the river.
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  Speaker 1: And I guess it started over a decade plus ago,
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  Speaker 1: my mom calling me out for trying to make maybe
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  Speaker 1: myself sound better by being from somewhere else.
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  Speaker 2: Well okay, so that's all I got. That's interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Well that's something though. And look, they do say this,
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  Speaker 3: why do people kittenfish? They say it's not malicious. Catfishing
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  Speaker 3: is malicious. Kitten fishing is not malicious. It's just basically
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  Speaker 3: insecurity driven. So they say, they say, this is the
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  Speaker 3: logic behind people who do it on their online dating profiles.
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  Speaker 3: Because I'm like, why are you going to say you're
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  Speaker 3: taller or put all these filters on you when you
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  Speaker 3: know you're going to meet them in person and they're
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  Speaker 3: gonna see you don't look like your pictures.
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  Speaker 2: What's the logic behind this? They say.
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  Speaker 3: The logic is once we actually meet, the superficial stuff
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  Speaker 3: won't matter. The problem is most people feel deceived when
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  Speaker 3: they meet you and they see that you don't look
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  Speaker 3: like your profile picture or that there is something very
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  Speaker 3: different about what you put forth. And so even though
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  Speaker 3: you think, oh it won't matter, I just I open
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  Speaker 3: the door. Now I have an opportunity to meet this person,
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  Speaker 3: that person who you're meeting now feels fooled, So it doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: It usually blows up in your face.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, the logic there being I wouldn't have been been
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  Speaker 1: allowed in the door, correct, but now that I'm in
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  Speaker 1: the door, I have the opportunity. Correct, You wouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: given me the opportunity otherwise. Yeah, there is some logic
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  Speaker 1: to that. I would never recommend to anybody you ever
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  Speaker 1: do that. Because you initially lied to me to meet.
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  Speaker 3: Me, We're done it roads trust before you even had
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  Speaker 3: a chance to build it, and it's over.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's I think that is a absolute as a
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  Speaker 1: non starter.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they say it almost in every single case backfires.
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  Speaker 2: So don't do it period.
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  Speaker 3: Like on the stuff that's really like, don't say, Look,
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  Speaker 3: some girls have have filters on their dating apps and
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  Speaker 3: say I won't date anyone under six feet tall. Guess what,
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  Speaker 3: that's their prerogative. So don't say you're six feet tall
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  Speaker 3: when you're really five nine. Like that, as soon as
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  Speaker 3: you walk in the door, she I don't care how
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  Speaker 3: much fun you've had online facetiming talking whatever. The moment
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  Speaker 3: she sees that you lied to her about your height, she's.
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  Speaker 1: Done saying, but guys are so ego driven and narcissistic
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  Speaker 1: enough to think, man, she doesn't think she wants a
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  Speaker 1: guy under six feet, but wait until she gets a load.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly what it is. Oh my god, that's so funny.
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  Speaker 3: Okay and so and I love this in terms of
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  Speaker 3: the everybody has kitten fished at least at some point
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  Speaker 3: in their lives.
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  Speaker 2: When they started talking about social media, I was like, damn,
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  Speaker 2: that's scared.
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  Speaker 3: They said, it's a place where people buy design, present
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  Speaker 3: the best versions of themselves and leave out all the
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  Speaker 3: messy parts. Instagram is literally a big kitten fish bowl.
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  Speaker 1: That makes sense. That's every how much time do you
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  Speaker 1: spend looking for your profile photo, how much time the
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  Speaker 1: last selfie you put up? How many takes were there
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  Speaker 1: of that selfie?
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  Speaker 3: And how many filters did you try? And did you
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  Speaker 3: go into the photo editing thing? I mean, people make
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  Speaker 3: themselves look thinner. They erase wrinkles, they erase flemishes, they
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  Speaker 3: erase some scary discoloration anything.
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  Speaker 1: What was it you show me on I think it
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  Speaker 1: might have been some of the ninety day fiance shows
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  Speaker 1: to where like who was that? That's not the same person.
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  Speaker 1: They present themselves as a totally different a totally different individual.
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  Speaker 1: That feels like catfishing more so than.
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  Speaker 3: Kid vision when you completely don't look like your profile
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  Speaker 3: picture and there's so many filters. The sad thing is,
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  Speaker 3: I think some of these women that we see on
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  Speaker 3: some of these shows do the filters and then go
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  Speaker 3: to a plastic surgeon and say make me look like this,
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  Speaker 3: and then they actually try to end up looking like
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  Speaker 3: they're filters.
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  Speaker 1: Then there's some magicians out there who can make it
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  Speaker 1: happen for you.
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  Speaker 3: All right, So we talked about what kitten fishing is,
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  Speaker 3: why it's not a good plan, and why all of
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  Speaker 3: us do it. When we come back, we're gonna tell
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  Speaker 3: you what the experts say you should actually do to
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  Speaker 3: attract your perfect mate.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, we continue here on this AM and TJ
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  Speaker 1: relationship Saturday talking about kitten fishing. I had a question
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  Speaker 1: Rogues before you were about to pick back up, what
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  Speaker 1: give me more examples? You had some at the top,
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  Speaker 1: but can you remind me of the examples of kitten fishing?
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  Speaker 1: It was a height thing like what I'm trying to
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  Speaker 1: get myself more?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, so you can you can fudge your height, your weight,
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  Speaker 3: your age, me. Okay, little things, little things also, some
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  Speaker 3: resume type things like they were saying there was They
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  Speaker 3: were giving instances of a guy who said on his
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  Speaker 3: dating profile that he went to Harvard. She had gone
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  Speaker 3: to Harvard, so she was excited, like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna have this connection. And once she finally met him,
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  Speaker 3: he finally had to admit he only took a couple
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  Speaker 3: like a online class or in some affiliate with Harvard.
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  Speaker 2: He did not graduate from Harvard.
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  Speaker 1: He said he was a Harvard graduate.
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  Speaker 2: He just said he went to Harvard.
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  Speaker 3: He did, right, So it wasn't a full cat kit
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  Speaker 3: fish because it wasn't like completely true. It was partially true.
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  Speaker 3: And then they talked a lot about the filters, just
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  Speaker 3: about just even like where you grew up, things like
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  Speaker 3: this that make it sound better. Honestly, your West Memphis
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  Speaker 3: story fits right into it. If you do it to
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  Speaker 3: make yourself sound a little cooler, a little better. You
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  Speaker 3: don't want people to know exactly where you're from, so
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  Speaker 3: you say, you know you're from a cooler part of
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  Speaker 3: town or whatever. But it's just little white lies that
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  Speaker 3: make yourself seem better than you actually are.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that helps because when you said the Harvard thing,
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  Speaker 1: I said, that's not kidting fit. That's an outright lie.
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  Speaker 1: That's horrible. If you say I went to Harvard, that
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  Speaker 1: is you know what, that sounds like something politician would do, right,
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  Speaker 1: like just messing with the words a little bit to
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  Speaker 1: where yeah, it's technically true, but you can't accuse me
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  Speaker 1: of lying.
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  Speaker 3: The best or maybe the worst lies have a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of truth in that.
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  Speaker 2: And so that's all right. So what should you do
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  Speaker 2: to attract?
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  Speaker 3: So they actually talked to dating experts and matchmakers and
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  Speaker 3: they said the first thing when they get their clients
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  Speaker 3: and they're wanting to look for love, they tell them
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  Speaker 3: we will never ever ever add a filter to a
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  Speaker 3: client's photo. And they say, do not alter your photos
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  Speaker 3: in any way. It is a fool's errand you are
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  Speaker 3: setting yourself up for heartbreak if you if you edit
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  Speaker 3: or alter your photos on a dating website, it's just
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  Speaker 3: not smart.
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  Speaker 2: I thought that was interesting.
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  Speaker 3: They said, think of every photo you put on your
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  Speaker 3: dating app as showing a different side of your personality.
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  Speaker 3: Think about it like giving someone a hook to a conversation.
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  Speaker 3: And so she said, one of the biggest mistakes, especially
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  Speaker 3: women make, but men do too, because you see them
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  Speaker 3: with their shirts off, with their dogs trying to you know,
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  Speaker 3: elicit girls. Look at me with my lab and I'm
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  Speaker 3: on a hike. Yeah, that's or a shirt off and
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  Speaker 3: a kava poop, right exactly, or a pomeranian.
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  Speaker 1: God, you're going for that guy every time over the
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  Speaker 1: guy that says he's five nine and a half.
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  Speaker 3: Right, But she said the biggest mistake people make is
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  Speaker 3: when they put Glamour shot after Glamour's shot. We get it,
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  Speaker 3: you're pretty okay, what else is there to you?
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  Speaker 1: I bet that woman if we go ask who is
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  Speaker 1: getting more hits, who is getting more likes, who is
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  Speaker 1: getting more dates?
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  Speaker 3: The glamour shot girl okay, fine, probably until she goes
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  Speaker 3: on the date and she doesn't look like her profile
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  Speaker 3: picture and she gets frustrated and said, there are no
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  Speaker 3: good men out there. I don't understand why I can't
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  Speaker 3: find a good guy. The dating expert will say, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: because you put out that you wanted a certain kind
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  Speaker 3: of guy. When you put out a certain kind of picture,
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  Speaker 3: when you show yourself doing what you love, whether it's running, hiking,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, whatever activity it is. You do yoga,
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  Speaker 3: put those photos out there. Then a guy who likes
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  Speaker 3: an athletic girl or a guy who likes a girl
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  Speaker 3: who you'll meet the people who are more possible matches
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  Speaker 3: for you versus the hot guy who thinks he's getting
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  Speaker 3: a hot girl when you actually don't have anything in common.
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  Speaker 2: That does make.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of sense that a hot guy and a
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  Speaker 3: hot girl. No, but one of them isn't being totally truthful.
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  Speaker 3: They're kitten fishing.
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  Speaker 1: We're not talking about a hot girl. We're talking about
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  Speaker 1: a girl who makes herself look.
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  Speaker 3: We're talking about she could be hot to the right guy,
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  Speaker 3: but she's trying to make herself look like a model,
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  Speaker 3: or like an influencer, or like the kind of girl
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  Speaker 3: you'd see on Love Island.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that's what she's trying to make herself look like.
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  Speaker 3: And the guys too, And when he actually might just
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  Speaker 3: be this really fun, sweet, comedic guy who will attract
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  Speaker 3: a very attractive girl who is looking for that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, they're casting a much wider net, are they not?
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  Speaker 1: They through them? Yes, that's your problem.
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna get the right person if you put out
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  Speaker 3: the picture that actually represents your personality versus a filter
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  Speaker 3: of what you wish.
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  Speaker 1: You looked like, No, there's a man, I got so
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  Speaker 1: much to say. And in response to that.
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  Speaker 2: Way, wait, okay, what is it?
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  Speaker 1: Some stuff I can't say, but it goes in line
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  Speaker 1: with no we should say men and women where we
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  Speaker 1: keep asking what's wrong with the world, Like what's wrong?
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  Speaker 1: They're no good men out there? No, can't find the
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  Speaker 1: right one and all these things, and we never asked
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  Speaker 1: the question, what is it about me that I am
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: putting out that keeps attracting all of this stuff? You
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: love saying that then I'm not going to say it here,
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: but you get what I'm saying, Broes. Some of these
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: people you're attracting or might be perfect for that other
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: person over there, but you keep asking for what? And
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: we never want to ask that question of ourselves. What
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: is it about me that keeps bringing this to me?
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: That's a tough question, and.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: I think and I think that's part of the questions
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: you have to ask yourself if you are being honest
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: with yourself and saying, yeah, I've been kitten fishing a
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: little bit, maybe I ought to stop, Maybe I ought
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: to stop.
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  Speaker 2: I love these terms.
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  Speaker 3: I love the way that we yes nothing new is happening,
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  Speaker 3: but having a new way of looking at it can
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: actually maybe open your eyes to something that you're doing
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: that's creating part of the problem, which can actually lead
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: to a solution because you can change your behavior.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but this one's a big one, roads and I
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: think this is I find this one more legit than
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: the others that I'm dismissive of. Oh, we used to
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: always do this, and now they just have a name
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: for it. Roh. Social media makes this one.
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  Speaker 3: More absolutely and widespread and perhaps dare I say universal?
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: That's true? Who's out there putting an acci? Oh, some
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: people will do it. But even the ones that are
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: doing it, it's almost like they're celebrated for doing it, Yes,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: or being yourself by letting us see who you are.
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  Speaker 3: I love how it's all transparent and we've pulled the
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: curtains back now we've just put filters on. Let's be honest,
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: all right with that, everybody, Let's stop kitten fishing all
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: of us.
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  Speaker 2: But we hope you have a wonderful day today. I
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: maybe Robock alongside TJ. Holmes, We will talk to you soon.
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