Latest / Chuck Douglas / Whitehall City Councilman discussion
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This indictment from the suburban community of Whitehall, Ohio. A
- 0:04Speaker 1: few years ago, I was singing the praises of Whitehall.
- 0:06Speaker 1: I mean, they were really being aggressive when it came
- 0:09Speaker 1: to bringing in new residents and and down payment assistance
- 0:13Speaker 1: programs for bringing first time home buyers, and they were
- 0:17Speaker 1: beefing up the esthetics of the community, landscaping and roadwork
- 0:23Speaker 1: and so forth. Whitehall was something. But then, you know,
- 0:26Speaker 1: in the last couple of years, I have questioned. I've
- 0:29Speaker 1: questioned some things about Whitehall, namely, with the the the
- 0:34Speaker 1: beginnings of the Kia Boys saga here in central Ohio.
- 0:39Speaker 1: It seemed that far too often, every time a Kia
- 0:42Speaker 1: or a Hyundai was stolen, it ended up in Whitehall.
- 0:46Speaker 1: And I don't understand why. No matter where it was stolen,
- 0:52Speaker 1: it ended up in Whitehall. And I questioned that it
- 0:57Speaker 1: seemed to me that there had to be something, some
- 1:00Speaker 1: some yeah, gravitational something that was taking these kids to
- 1:05Speaker 1: Whitehall with their stolen vehicles, and and it made me say, hmm,
- 1:11Speaker 1: if you will. And then we had this latest event
- 1:14Speaker 1: with the city councilman who uh the night before I
- 1:21Speaker 1: guess he was. He was being sworn in is that
- 1:24Speaker 1: when they picked him up the first time. No, they
- 1:25Speaker 1: charged him again with something added a charge that night
- 1:29Speaker 1: as he was being sworn in for his next term
- 1:31Speaker 1: on city council. This, this guy apparently has been kind
- 1:37Speaker 1: of a pain in the butt to city administration in Whitehall.
- 1:42Speaker 1: I've had it from a few people now that he
- 1:44Speaker 1: has actually asked for some investigations into things in Whitehall.
- 1:50Speaker 1: He has said himself that the mayor has a big
- 1:53Speaker 1: issue with him. He's he called himself the Mayor's biggest enemy,
- 1:56Speaker 1: I believe at one point, and suddenly all these charges
- 2:00Speaker 1: are upon now understand, Please, don't even get confused. Don't
- 2:05Speaker 1: even try to get confused. In no way, shape or form,
- 2:08Speaker 1: am I would I ever defend a pedophile dirtball piece
- 2:13Speaker 1: of garbage. But the court has yet to decide that
- 2:17Speaker 1: he is aile dirtball piece of garbage. He's been accused
- 2:21Speaker 1: of these things, they say in fractions dating back to
- 2:26Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six, from what I have read in fairly
- 2:30Speaker 1: numerous media accounts. But now that the dust has settled,
- 2:36Speaker 1: we've had a chance to think about this. There are
- 2:39Speaker 1: some questions of reasonable, logical, pertinent questions that really need
- 2:46Speaker 1: to be asked, such as where's the grand jury indictment?
- 2:55Speaker 1: Think about this. If you have an ongoing investigation into
- 2:59Speaker 1: an elected official who is accused of doing such heinous things,
- 3:04Speaker 1: this is going before the grand jury. But I have
- 3:10Speaker 1: heard of no grand jury indictment. One member of the
- 3:18Speaker 1: Whitehall City Council last night voted to keep him in
- 3:26Speaker 1: his position, saying that there's too many questions that have
- 3:31Speaker 1: to be answered yet. And you know what, I agree.
- 3:35Speaker 1: I agree with him. Now, if this guy has proven
- 3:38Speaker 1: to be guilty in a court of law, as is
- 3:41Speaker 1: the right of every accused American, hang him high, no
- 3:47Speaker 1: doubt about it. If you know anything at all about me,
- 3:49Speaker 1: you know the protection and nurturing of our children and
- 3:52Speaker 1: raising them into good and responsible members of society as adults.
- 3:57Speaker 1: That that is the point of our existence, and anyone
- 4:03Speaker 1: who hurts them deserves the maximum penalty that can be
- 4:07Speaker 1: imposed by our legal system. But for right now, we
- 4:13Speaker 1: have a bunch of accusations with as far as I've seen,
- 4:18Speaker 1: no evidence. Can you honestly tell me that there wouldn't
- 4:22Speaker 1: be some evidence at this point leaked out? You know
- 4:25Speaker 1: how everybody is. Everybody's got video everywhere we've seen nothing.
- 4:33Speaker 1: He was released from court on his own recognisance the
- 4:36Speaker 1: morning after his arrest because the prosecutor couldn't even speak
- 4:39Speaker 1: to the charges in open court. The prosecutor said, we
- 4:45Speaker 1: didn't get anything from the white Hall Police Department. We
- 4:49Speaker 1: need information in order to make the presentation to the
- 4:52Speaker 1: judge in order to ask for a remand they said
- 4:55Speaker 1: they had nothing. Does something smell like a forgotten carp
- 5:03Speaker 1: on the shore right now? Something seems a little fishy
- 5:07Speaker 1: to me. This should not just be a matter of
- 5:12Speaker 1: pointing your finger and eliminating somebody from their position, from
- 5:17Speaker 1: their livelihood, from whatever, just because you said it. Where
- 5:24Speaker 1: is the proof we need more than just the pudding.
- 5:27Speaker 1: Where is the proof and where is the process that
- 5:35Speaker 1: should have existed in order to get us to the
- 5:38Speaker 1: point where this guy was arrested. They served to search
- 5:43Speaker 1: for it on his home when they arrested him. I
- 5:47Speaker 1: did see I believe two reports that said there was
- 5:50Speaker 1: artwork confiscated. One source called gay and possibly pornographic art.
- 6:01Speaker 1: You know what, that's that's not illegal? May not be
- 6:05Speaker 1: my cup of tea. I hope it's not illegal, you
- 6:09Speaker 1: I know, but it's not illegal. Art is in the
- 6:16Speaker 1: eye of the beholder. What evidence is there? The police
- 6:25Speaker 1: chief in Whitehall said he's one hundred percent convinced that
- 6:30Speaker 1: this man should be arrested and prosecuted. Why am I
- 6:39Speaker 1: being confrontational? I'm trying not to be, but I am
- 6:42Speaker 1: being logical when the arrest was first made and you
- 6:48Speaker 1: know when they said, yeah, we got him, and since
- 6:51Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six and one hundred percent sure, I'm like,
- 6:54Speaker 1: get him. But as we've had a week and nothing
- 7:03Speaker 1: remotely resembling evidence has reared its head, I think it's
- 7:10Speaker 1: it's time to reasonably ask those reasonable questions. Or maybe
- 7:14Speaker 1: that's just me A two one nine eight eighty six
- 7:19Speaker 1: the number eight two one double UTV and or eight
- 7:21Speaker 1: hundred and six to ten double UTV. And you're welcome
- 7:24Speaker 1: to disagree with me. I you know, explain yourself, lay
- 7:27Speaker 1: the case out. But I would say that he is
- 7:34Speaker 1: deserving of the same thing I would expect for myself,
- 7:36Speaker 1: or for you, or even for Zach on a good day,
- 7:40Speaker 1: the presumption of innocence, thank you, until proven guilty. And
- 7:46Speaker 1: I don't think he should have to give up his seat.
- 7:53Speaker 1: You could accuse anybody of anything anywhere as the old saying,
- 7:57Speaker 1: goes you can indicet a ham sandwich. They didn't even
- 7:59Speaker 1: bother to get the indictment. They just arrested, accused, and
- 8:06Speaker 1: released and then attempted to eliminate by getting this city council.
- 8:12Speaker 1: Is it a city council or a town council in Whitehaw?
- 8:14Speaker 1: I don't know what you would call it. I guess
- 8:17Speaker 1: it's a city council. But trying to get that vote
- 8:21Speaker 1: to remove him, they needed unanimous agreement. All but one
- 8:28Speaker 1: member of council, who could turn out to be the
- 8:30Speaker 1: hero in this whole thing, voted to remove this guy
- 8:37Speaker 1: from council. One member of council stood up and said, no,
- 8:40Speaker 1: we've there are too many questions to be answered. It
- 8:43Speaker 1: is city council, okay. I wasn't sure if they called
- 8:45Speaker 1: a city or a town council. One member of council
- 8:48Speaker 1: stood up, said there's too many questions to be answered,
- 8:50Speaker 1: and he's not comfortable voting to remove this man without
- 8:56Speaker 1: answers to those questions. Again, I would expected for myself,
- 9:02Speaker 1: I would expect it for you, that presumption of innocence. Furthermore,
- 9:09Speaker 1: if found guilty of these these just absolutely vulgar things
- 9:16Speaker 1: of which he's been accused. Throw three or four books
- 9:20Speaker 1: at him, hit him hard, don't hurt children. My rule
- 9:28Speaker 1: is simple, A two, one, nine, eight eight six peat.
- 9:32Speaker 1: You are on six ten WTV and Hi.
- 9:36Speaker 2: Hey, so I agree with everything you're saying. Oh I'm sorry,
- 9:39Speaker 2: what did you say about nineteen ninety six?
- 9:41Speaker 1: Again, the original reports when they made the rest the
- 9:44Speaker 1: first time, said that they have infractions that they're accusing
- 9:48Speaker 1: of back to nineteen ninety six, and I believe they
- 9:51Speaker 1: said as many as eight was it eight boys that
- 9:53Speaker 1: they said in the initial reports, Zach, Yeah, it was
- 9:56Speaker 1: eight boys.
- 9:58Speaker 2: And how long has he been on the city council?
- 10:00Speaker 1: I think this would begin his second term, so I
- 10:03Speaker 1: think he's served four years now.
- 10:05Speaker 2: So why was he even elected to city council? Did
- 10:08Speaker 2: anybody not bet the guy and see that these things
- 10:10Speaker 2: are going back to nineteen ninety six?
- 10:12Speaker 1: Yeah? Exactly? Where where is everything that leads up to
- 10:16Speaker 1: this moment? There's a big vacancy there in the process.
- 10:21Speaker 1: Somebody somewhere should have raised a red flag at some point,
- 10:25Speaker 1: and before you got to this moment, there should have
- 10:28Speaker 1: been grand jury testimony and an indictment and an entire process.
- 10:32Speaker 1: You don't just make an accusation and go arrest the guy.
- 10:36Speaker 2: So this stuff that's going back to ninety six, is
- 10:38Speaker 2: this not public.
- 10:39Speaker 1: Records, It's not something for which he has been arrested.
- 10:43Speaker 1: He's accused of doing things back to nineteen ninety six,
- 10:46Speaker 1: but he's not been charged or arrested for anything.
- 10:49Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand. Do we know when the accusations first
- 10:52Speaker 2: came to light? How many years are?
- 10:53Speaker 1: I have no idea. This all just came out in
- 10:55Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks.
- 10:57Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay. I was starting to think, you know,
- 11:01Speaker 2: if these accuvations have been around before he was elected,
- 11:04Speaker 2: then that's a problem.
- 11:05Speaker 1: But yeah, what they're charging is that he has been
- 11:08Speaker 1: doing things to minor age boys since nineteen ninety six at.
- 11:14Speaker 2: Least, So that obviously that begs the question why are
- 11:18Speaker 2: these just if it's been going on since ninety six,
- 11:21Speaker 2: then why are we just hearing about this stuff now?
- 11:23Speaker 2: Like why does it take so long for people to
- 11:26Speaker 2: make this stuff public?
- 11:28Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just another one of the question
- 11:32Speaker 1: marks in this entire process.
- 11:34Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I appreciate you tackling this.
- 11:36Speaker 1: All right, Pete. I appreciate the call. Thanks very much