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Ep 204 - "Show Me" Saints vs Panthers Week 10 Preview · Saints Block Party Podcast

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hashtag no music, no intro, we are back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Saints bought party podcasts coming at you, Adam joined with my guy, my dog, aka wolf, so technically not my dog, is it total?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess technically, if you missed the episode that we did last night, please go check that out.
0:32
[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about the Saints.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Trade deadline, the Rashid, Shahi trade and trading Trevor Penning, all of the details of what possible trades that were available for the things to do that they didn't do, so go back and check that out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be completely honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wolf, I'm exhausted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did a two-hour drive to get home just to go 30.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to say we go and cut this one short, but we are here to preview the Saints Panthers week 10.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to our guy, Bajan, and again, saying love to Bajan in that's way for their loss of our
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you a bark dealing with the loss of the cat took place the day so sending love to them, but before we get into true sickos who by the way, there's like 11 concurrent viewers, it's Shut up, 11, 11, what's up?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wrote that I'm often cut waters tonight just by more deal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Much much much love I wrote.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But a cut what is on the Wednesday night on Wednesday night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been smoking saints, saints.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's 830 here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's 1030.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably most places if you're watching this right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Please like and subscribe if you are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But probably feels like 1130 because of the time change.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we appreciate you all joining us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just some milestones for us at touch on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We hit
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[SPEAKER_01]: over 2,400 subscribers on YouTube recently.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So pre-chall for rocking with us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm appreciative, I'm appreciative, but it should be more than it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it should be picking up 25% so they all must not be subscribing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're watching this, you haven't hit that subscribe button.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also appreciative a couple of days ago, we got the notification that we've hit 350,000 views on YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Truly, truly appreciative of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we started going super video heavy and everything YouTube wise last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's summer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Crazy that we hit 350,000 views and this is reflective and that's a testament to y'all for tuning in and watching us, whether it's a live stream, whether it's, you know, not a live stream, you got y'all just watching us, you know, the videos that are posted, we love y'all, like truly, truly, truly.
3:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Great to draw watching us.
3:52
[SPEAKER_01]: with glasses at the same time, five wins, this season they have one win, one win, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it looks grim, cause it doesn't look like anything, got the topest change anytime soon.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's real love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's really...
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I did, before we talked about,
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[SPEAKER_01]: the preview.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's something that I wanted to address.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So our guy, guy and exclusive, Matthew Harris, guy and exclusive with Mickey Lomus this morning.
4:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I guess talking about like the trade that line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh god damn it, um, and the moves that weren't made, I forgot it's behind the pay wall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go,
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[SPEAKER_01]: terrible audio podcasts, and I apologize to you listening to the audio version of this, but here it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you posted it earlier today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just if you go back and look at these quarterbacks, it just takes time, Luma said, and nobody wants to hear that, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: All we have to do is look around our league and see Baker Mayfield,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can't get to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's for phase.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Daniel Jones, Sam Darnode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a bunch of examples of guys that, hey, if they would have just stuck with the developmental plan, where were those franchises be with those players?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very rarely do quarterbacks, have instant success.
5:58
[SPEAKER_01]: This isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot, this isn't a fucking idiot
6:18
[SPEAKER_01]: no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they couldn't develop the quarterback because of the organization dysfunction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it wasn't until they went to functional organizations that they then became successful and were able to then succeed in the league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Much like Kevin O'Connell says, it's not young quarterbacks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't fail.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's organizations that fail young quarterbacks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a keep just it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He just takes time, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It just takes a little time, you know, you got to have patience.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just, I don't know, like, who was he trying to convince right there?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's what I was, is where my mind was, like, who the man or himself?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, are you trying to convince friends there?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because we know, like, we, like, we know it takes time for a young quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But do you, like, do you know that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, do you know what it takes to develop a quarterback?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because you've never done it in your,
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[SPEAKER_02]: GMing history have never developed a quarterback, ever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know who your message was for.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who was it intended for her?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No idea.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No idea.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then like, Matt posted like his article.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I put like, I did this, even I didn't even know that the article was coming today, but like just for like, shits and giggles,
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[SPEAKER_01]: decided to update my draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They spreadsheet spreadsheet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what we call it for for years now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I've been working on the ship for for years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That this is just showing 2020.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The only update I've made since I posted it on Twitter is I did decide to make Jordan Halden a yellow because I think he is like a yellow back up decent starting safety.
8:12
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
8:14
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's start off by defining your colors because I think we need to so the colors are in terms of draft pick and this is also a good like inference to make.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A green player Jack Bond is a perfect example.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jack Bond is a green because the saints evaluation on
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[SPEAKER_01]: hardcore green with the Eagles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not if the player is was that player specifically good with the Saints.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just means if that player was a good to good or great drop pick period.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That player's a green.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yellow is is that player and so much like locked for 2025 is more like their yellow because we just don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But other players who isn't 225 is like is that player just an okay decent player?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like are they okay player?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not a good player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just not a good player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I won't use the word bus.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like obviously some of the players are bus, but just not a good DRAP pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of it kind of comes into where they were they were drafted and things like that So I'll give you an example.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is like the perfect example
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[SPEAKER_01]: if the saints draft a quarterback next year in the top three, Tyler shook will then be a red because of he was drafted for it overall and his replacement was drafted the very next year, top three, so you'd be a red.
9:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Since 2020, people were trying to argue me with a positive debo being a green, positive debo's fucking green, he's a green.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He looks trying to say he's not a green.
10:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, bro.
10:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I like it it was okay, but totally fucking talk about not only did he get like I understand his like last year and a half We're very frustrating, but he came on the scene gangbusters and then he went out and got in a like a crazy contract from a big Kind of thing like he's a green.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a green motherfucking.
10:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what you're like you want to argue about
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[SPEAKER_01]: When if a player leaves for ages leaves a free edition gets immediately signed before a free agency opens, sees a green like he looks around like he's come on anyhow this just goes to illustrate and I know we're going to get into the patterns game but like so much of this I know so much of this podcast really really has to be about
10:47
[SPEAKER_01]: What has happened over the years and really what needs to be done to fix it, but like, right, that's a whole different conversation.
10:55
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a whole different story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What has happened over the years to get the things to where they are?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is a huge part of it, right here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm screaming about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can argue the crystal alive and think like I get it like you people want to argue some people probably think he's a red Pum people want to say that he's a yellow What like I could I can go back and forth if crystal live is a yellow piece of green whatever I don't have time for it I put my degree because he they starting at least at worth a right receiver to in the NFL and he's a green with an all set when all is said and done he's gonna get a
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[SPEAKER_01]: a good-ass contract if it's not from the Saints is from somebody he's going to be making 20 of question 20 plus million dollars from somebody he's a fuck somebody like stop it anyhow there are one two three four five green players and I've been up to six green players I'm being optimistic with banks and
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[SPEAKER_01]: out of, I don't, I don't, I don't want to do that much counting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 20, 30 players drafted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Since 2022 or 2022, or 2022, unbelievable, unbelievable, unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's how you end up being one of the worst teams in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That right there, that right there, that's how you have a terrible cap.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's how you can't even, you don't even have talent to treat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can't even tell it to treat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In the talent you do have to treat your general manager, like, didn't want to treat it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Pete Werner, that's a green old date.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This guy's a starter for us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's exactly why we are where we are right there, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very clear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I scroll down when I was doing this this morning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And after the last time we had two greens and one draft was 2019, Wolf is almost about to be 2027.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we had we had three reason that draft came to hell in that shit, bro.
13:37
[SPEAKER_02]: He played for the division rivals right now, bro Jeff Allen was question man that we a boy This doing a trip right me up bro you and I I'm being a little
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[SPEAKER_01]: A little, uh, nice, you can argue that these are the reasons the fucking red.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, you could, you could really argue that the only reason he's not is because he's like a starter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Eddie, that's it.
14:10
[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
14:11
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The only compliment I give.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a father.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's hanging on my fucking thread.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's closer to a red than he probably is a yellow, but I was just being a little generous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But honestly, and what all said is that he's probably closer to a fucking closer to a red.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like you have, you have that bond who's a stellar player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Never was that thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got for your own to nothing out of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got nothing out of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Adam Trump is still in the league doing fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got nothing out of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Doing fine with the Broncos, all of us are starting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All of us are starting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Get stand out by the fire.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Every time like, if Reson's on and they go to the Broncos and Adam Trump is making a play for it, I get in sense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, for that right there is the reason man people wonder why that is why you can't I mean I wish I was not able to on like every team that we could do like one of those spreadsheets on like all teams and they compare it but like I can you know I don't know like yeah maybe I could do that for the first couple of picks but you know the seventh round picks for the jet side can't judge those
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's how you stay bad, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People in the chatter arguing that Pete Warner should be a yellow and not a red.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay, okay, it doesn't change the fact.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, like spell him kid at the spelling be mean, like the confetti phone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, okay, you, you, you drafted a yellow player in the second round.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In the second, the second round line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You look at what's his name with the Browns calls Swissenter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, call for something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he's he the green that's that's a second round.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let it back right there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm saying pops off the tape.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So off the screen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Keep wearing it like I just saw him get torched against the Oh, grams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know how many tackles he missed in that game?
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[SPEAKER_01]: How many holes, how many holes he's, how many holes he's guessed wrong?
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[SPEAKER_02]: The holes, the holes, the match quarters, stuff they're doing, completely lost, completely lost.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yes, they wouldn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Does anyone know if you got them a few plays on the special teams that messes with the comp pick?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, they get strictly like him playing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: corner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But even if it's like, even if he does just special teams, I think we could.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he just got to stay ballooned at threshold.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, please, please.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a eating to sit out every game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of that, one of the low key.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll only say the worst things I could have for this team, but like not a great thing is like when Tyrallie gets like a little nagging injury, I shut up, shut up, shut up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or he like has to like have some mislead 30 weeks, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why have put that into the universe?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's awesome, it's awesome, it's like, can you stingy see it, bro?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anywhat happens, we're like the end of the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, if you don't, it's, it's, it's reach on the team.
17:40
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't put Rico packing out there, bro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, Rico, somebody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: somebody like at that point you at that point as an organization you have to be smart and be like let's see what our young guy Let's see what Rico Peyton has like please last three weeks because then you like You would cut that now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would cut them right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't I wouldn't even want the temptation You know what I'm saying That is I don't make wrong pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know Mickey would be trying to get that
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[SPEAKER_01]: Last week of the season when, over and over, just... Ah, anyhow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Y'all excited.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Riley gets hurt, and then it's Reson, right time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It'd be nice to see Reson, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Get a little, get a little play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A little play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, anyhow, before, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, we just wanted to kind of share that before we get into someone asked me to zoom in because it was hard to see if you go to my Twitter, I posted it to My Paris is article as a quote tweet so you can see it a lot better Doc, they said it's this scene in or SPP look a lot like the 2024 election results
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just like Gale and Mickey likes it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about this game on Sunday.
20:59
[SPEAKER_01]: The Saints, Traward of Current Line of Play the Carolina Panthers who are over 500, for like, you know, for the first time, and forever being this deep in the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Rico Dattle, Dattle, Dattle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did not practice today, so it'll be interesting to see what happens on Thursday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If he doesn't play on Sunday, I don't think it's really gonna,
21:24
[SPEAKER_01]: matter that much I just I don't like it'll it'll be a blow to cure a line I don't want to like I like it won't be a blow to cure a line up but I just I'm not taking it in some type of big blow if he doesn't hurt because Shuba Aberd is a very good starting running back and in his own right now has done pretty decent against the
21:56
[SPEAKER_01]: It'd be good to see the Saints' defense like not get pumped.
22:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, you know, like after being punched in the mouth, numerous times by the Rams, I would love Brennan's daily to challenge his defense, to challenge the defense to show some pride, like anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like in New York, can y'all do something?
22:23
[SPEAKER_01]: So it'll be interesting to see how they come out on Sunday.
22:26
[SPEAKER_01]: That first, that first, also like, let me talk, I talked about this when we talk about the defense right now.
22:32
[SPEAKER_01]: But man, if the Saints win the fucking coin toss, can y'all, can y'all not accept to receive the ball?
22:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Please, I don't want it.
22:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Especially being on a road.
22:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Especially being on a road, where a day or a, that's the biggest thing.
22:47
[SPEAKER_02]: They are a terrible road team this year.
22:53
[SPEAKER_02]: been one of the worst.
22:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I had the numbers.
22:57
[SPEAKER_02]: It was something like 52 to 100, 160 something, just some ridiculous score.
23:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they've been getting Molly walked on a road.
23:09
[SPEAKER_02]: And that speaks to coaching at my opinion.
23:11
[SPEAKER_02]: That speaks to preparation.
23:13
[SPEAKER_02]: We know they're not a good team, but they just get Molly walked on a road every time.
23:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Every time.
23:22
[SPEAKER_02]: that ain't going to work.
23:23
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, you see a lot of the same issues.
23:25
[SPEAKER_02]: You see the pretty snap penalties.
23:27
[SPEAKER_02]: You see the struggle with communication and just cohesion of the offense.
23:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Just mistakes happening.
23:33
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, guys, like why does this guy blocking this guy when he should be over here?
23:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Because he probably didn't hit a play call and all kind of stuff like that.
23:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Just the whole operation on the road has just been weird.
23:45
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's wrong.
23:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Fresh rogue game of the season thus far has been the Buffalo Bill's game of all games Which is of all games of all games and still is what 33 the 30- It was close to it was close to 30.
24:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I know it just but still is like that's the best we got But the fact that it was the bills.
24:09
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, okay, but I mean he's past three weeks nothing has been good man so
24:15
[SPEAKER_02]: It would be nice for them to go out there and just kind of turn a page a little bit because Kellen, he'd been looking stressed.
24:23
[SPEAKER_02]: He'd been looking, you know, a little kind of just down or whatever and stressed and looking for answers.
24:31
[SPEAKER_02]: So go and show some, right?
24:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I did the film study on the office from this past week.
24:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Shuck was fine.
24:41
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
24:46
[SPEAKER_02]: It was hard to get a good read, but you won't come away watching that like, oh, he was the problem.
24:51
[SPEAKER_02]: He was another one of those.
24:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he wasn't the issue with the game, you know, right.
24:54
[SPEAKER_02]: It was one of those, you know, saying, so how about like build off of that, you know, build off that on-telling, build off that aggression, um, and put together a nice game plan, but we hit the rest of the see how they run the ball, I'm not going to try to, um,
25:16
[SPEAKER_02]: they got to get that figured out because that's the key to everything.
25:20
[SPEAKER_02]: It is because there's so bad on first and second down.
25:24
[SPEAKER_02]: There are always on third and long can't convert those so they have all these short drives, defense on the field forever and it's just not complimentary football.
25:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care who you play.
25:37
[SPEAKER_02]: If you play anybody like they go lose and the panthers, they will take advantage of that shit.
25:42
[SPEAKER_02]: They will.
25:45
[SPEAKER_01]: matchup wise, kind of sticking with the theme of the defense, the Saints run defense has not been good.
25:54
[SPEAKER_01]: They had a pretty, pretty decent game against the box, but I just felt like they were insanely motivated to play the box after Baker's comments, but like really any other game
26:11
[SPEAKER_01]: They haven't been good, and the panthers have been a very, very good run offense.
26:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Mostly with Rico, but again, I think two bucks can still get his.
26:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I know Tevin Millen has had a mostly like lukewarm ish rookie season, but assuming he's matched up against Kool-Aid McKenzie, oh, hey, go eat.
26:32
[SPEAKER_01]: don't love that magic room for Kuwait at all.
26:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I just pulled up all his receptions on all 22.
26:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to see.
26:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Glad to see everyone watched a lot of Panthers this year.
26:44
[SPEAKER_02]: So I was like, I don't see what Ted doing.
26:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And Ted looked like Ted, where Ted looked exactly like you would thought he would.
26:50
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
26:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Deadly on those hitches and those deep digs.
26:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Those compacts, getting in those fitting in those zones behind the linebackers.
27:01
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, in front of the safety isn't stuff like that, just getting right there and those comfortable zones.
27:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And he plays exactly how you thought he's going to play it for any.
27:09
[SPEAKER_02]: They're moving them all around.
27:11
[SPEAKER_02]: They got a plan in a, in a slid a little bit.
27:14
[SPEAKER_02]: But mostly he's out on X or he's in the Z spot.
27:19
[SPEAKER_01]: He looks good, but he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's going, he's
27:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so you really never know which Bryce you're going to get if we get like I think we gave I think we gave love to him after the Rams game up.
27:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't I'm not necessarily sure.
28:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I think after his first game back Chase Young is strong together some nice games like I want to give him some some credit.
28:09
[SPEAKER_01]: He has he really is strong together some really nice games and so containing Bryce Young's can be very important
28:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, what's been kind of fascinating to see to me is.
28:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Brother, they should have struck with the iron was hot.
28:28
[SPEAKER_01]: For big creed, bro, because he has completely almost become, it can get up.
28:34
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a get-up, bro.
28:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel he's on a field and visible, bro.
28:41
[SPEAKER_02]: And now he's always the problem with him.
28:43
[SPEAKER_02]: That was always the problem with him.
28:44
[SPEAKER_02]: You will pop up every nine day and
28:46
[SPEAKER_02]: All car gratis have a good game, but then he goes stretches where you just like forget he is on the field You know, he's all So yeah, but I guess Brad's young.
28:59
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a short quarterback.
29:00
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like really short So they need all the big guys of front to like just call those lanes up make him you know move off his spot
29:10
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, so you can't see, you know what I'm saying?
29:13
[SPEAKER_02]: You just don't want him to see the field clearly.
29:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Cause he'll give you some, he'll give you some balls you could pick off, he'll make some mistakes.
29:22
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a win-a-boo game.
29:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd say, and it's a good win, but if it's a game, they can win, you know what I'm saying?
29:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely a win-a-boo game.
29:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they, like five and a half point under dollars, which makes sense cause like we said they're terrible on the road.
29:34
[SPEAKER_02]: But if the defense can't give the Saints offense,
29:40
[SPEAKER_02]: to get some points up.
29:42
[SPEAKER_02]: They might have a chance to win this game.
29:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Do we want them to win?
29:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's what I'll say.
29:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Going like it's hard to reach for them to lose, but as soon as Carolina scores at first touchdown, put it on me.
30:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Put it on me.
30:09
[SPEAKER_01]: don't stop.
30:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't stop.
30:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't stop.
30:17
[SPEAKER_04]: Do not stop, bro.
30:18
[SPEAKER_01]: What she said, don't win, but make it look good.
30:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with that.
30:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, at this point, bro, like, making it look terrible.
30:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I want, like, if I want the whole load,
30:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if we start good, I'm like fine, like start good, make it look good and then lose.
30:41
[SPEAKER_01]: But like if it starts bad, I wanted to stay bad, like stay, like stay like the Rams game.
30:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Then then that's because I'm not, I don't think it's going to change anything.
30:56
[SPEAKER_01]: But it would be the only thing that might get guilt attention.
31:02
[SPEAKER_01]: And even then, I don't know if it actually would, but it may be the only thing that could get her attention.
31:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh shit, what's, what's, what's, what's going on in this little venture, I'm involved in over here.
31:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, I do want to football team, huh?
31:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Cause he was at the ramp game.
31:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, show was.
31:19
[SPEAKER_02]: And then some games that feel a little worse and others, like, you know, Diego, I fire like almost a year to go
31:26
[SPEAKER_02]: against the Panthers.
31:28
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the winless Panthers at the time, I believe they were winless, were they?
31:33
[SPEAKER_02]: All they just had one game, they were really bad as all our friends.
31:36
[SPEAKER_02]: They were the two worst team in the league.
31:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we are right now.
31:40
[SPEAKER_02]: And so that lost, just was like,
31:45
[SPEAKER_02]: He was like, oh, like, you know what I'm saying?
31:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, this is unacceptable.
31:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So one of the funniest things is that when people come to like defend their car, they never bring up that game for some reason.
31:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they never talk about it.
31:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it just doesn't exist in the annals of never carrying that game up, bro.
32:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Never bring that game up.
32:03
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, y'all do y'all not remembering like, oh, man, if it calls on a team, we'd be at least eight and nine wins.
32:08
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, what's what?
32:13
[SPEAKER_02]: What player of y'all watch, please tell me, anyway, yeah man, but I really want chef to succeed, I want him, hold on, hold on, let's take our last break and we talk about, okay, I'll put it down, all right, again, we need the Panthers defense, we'll be right back after this.
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33:56
[SPEAKER_01]: to wrap up this preview pod, the Saints going to get some Panthers, one of the things I am excited about in this game is that we didn't get to see much of Tyler shook against the Rams, the time of possession, all that.
34:14
[SPEAKER_01]: And also like the first two offensive drives were just so short just because of the play calling the execution was just not great.
34:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Going against the Panthers, who their defense can be feisty, I think J.C. Hornets have been a really good season.
34:32
[SPEAKER_01]: We're in a good season, really good season.
34:35
[SPEAKER_01]: But the Panthers' defense is not the ramps defense and we should be able to get a more extended look at Tyler's Chuck in this game.
34:50
[SPEAKER_01]: offensive line.
34:51
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to have Fuaga more than likely.
34:54
[SPEAKER_01]: They made the choice to.
34:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
34:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
34:58
[SPEAKER_01]: They made the choice to trade Trevor Penning.
35:00
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're done to probably be in there at left guard.
35:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And then obviously he's not going to have Rashichi because he was traded to the sea hogs.
35:12
[SPEAKER_01]: So
35:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I would cook, cooks go have like 80 snaps for, I'll believe it.
35:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe they will get more snaps when I see it.
35:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll leave it up that.
35:35
[SPEAKER_01]: But I want him to go out there and just
35:42
[SPEAKER_01]: But good things that we saw against the rounds, I want him to go out there and continue to just improve on that.
35:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And he should have like a more extended opportunity to do that.
35:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, man.
35:53
[SPEAKER_02]: And like, oh my god, like, don't give it wrong.
35:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, they are quarterbacks.
35:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm intrigued with, in this draft, in this 2026 draft.
36:03
[SPEAKER_02]: And I wouldn't be opposed to taking one, like to take it for Nando Mendoza.
36:08
[SPEAKER_02]: But Mendoza.
36:11
[SPEAKER_02]: the entry, go being able to trade down, you know, two spots, two spots with the jets picking up, maybe extra first here, and extra second there, and it, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm.
36:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh man, I need it because they just gave me so many holes on his team bro.
36:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I need it, it's almost juice out there, call it a take, get a crisp down and get a perception.
36:39
[SPEAKER_02]: So it tastes to Kobe and all these guys, they got juice out there bro.
36:44
[SPEAKER_02]: And we need it, we need juice, you know, and we need defensive juice, you know what I'm saying?
36:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Like those Ohio State Sturts, like those are Sturts bro, hard to pass up.
36:56
[SPEAKER_02]: or around Greece and Caleb Downs.
37:00
[SPEAKER_02]: The studs, man, blue chip studs, that this team desperately needs.
37:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Needs a team, but we also need a quarterback.
37:09
[SPEAKER_02]: So I get, like, quarterback takes priority of all that.
37:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I get it.
37:14
[SPEAKER_02]: So if your shop could just show us, man, show us.
37:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I ain't saying that you, the franchise answered it for the next 15 years, but show us that you could beat the bridge quarterback that they thought you were, like beat that bridge.
37:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Give us the 20th or the 7th or the 20th or whatever beat that bridge, that would be awesome or that would be awesome, so and it would be a pleasant surprise and it's all in his control.
37:47
[SPEAKER_01]: It shouldn't all be on him as well.
37:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, can please, it's preach like can we, I know it hasn't been there, but can we get some semblance of a run game?
38:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I know that they should just find up as to the, you know, for the practice cry to the actor today, can he help get the, some dirty art age when the, maybe the, the, the blocking ain't the best like,
38:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Please remember we were like, hey, can we get estimate for like a Twenty twenty seven seventh round pick you know before the season started now we got them, you know for nothing Yes, you lose that guy and look a lot of reads.
38:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean the Saints running backs aren't great But the it's the problem has been devour and blocking like that one blocking has been Absolutely awful unless you have like a Super creative running back that can make shit out of sugar out of shit
38:45
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just not been there.
38:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I understand people upset with Comerra.
38:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to set with him too.
38:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Boston all that and yes, he's he's washed.
38:52
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's just not there.
38:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't know what to tell you.
38:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the holes aren't there.
38:58
[SPEAKER_02]: So they hopefully with rubber dines in there and we can figure offensive line.
39:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it'll be a little better.
39:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I doubt it because they just don't have that.
39:09
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not something you could just turn on in a middle of the zone, but he'd be able to be a little better against the rack of the Panthers or anti fence, even though the anti fence has been better this year.
39:19
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like last year, I could see it being a little better as a Panthers.
39:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I could see it being a little better as a Panthers.
39:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I really could absolutely absolutely absolutely.
39:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So if it is
39:31
[SPEAKER_01]: better, like the blocking and the holder bit better, then you can start playing that more complimentary football.
39:39
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and then, Chuck doesn't have to go out there and throw, throw, throw, throw up the time and it's like, essentially, essentially the same thing that Spence Route was asked to do when he was starting, like, same thing.
39:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Literally the same same thing, man.
39:57
[SPEAKER_02]: And, like,
39:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, like you drop in third down passes, flumbling the ball.
40:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Joined Johnson, we know, he's gonna drop two, three passes again.
40:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Two, three key passes, two is like, we know that.
40:15
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, help it boy out, like Chris will love you.
40:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's been playing solid ball the last couple of weeks.
40:21
[SPEAKER_02]: So, continue to do that.
40:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's gonna get some more targets this game.
40:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully we give a lay, Mason Tipton, maybe get some snaps up in there.
40:30
[SPEAKER_02]: But like help, help the young guy out, help the work out, you know.
40:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Kellon Moore, help the rookie quarterback out, man.
40:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Like come up with some concepts for some easy layups.
40:40
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
40:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Like give him some layups.
40:42
[SPEAKER_02]: We ain't got to read the entire field.
40:45
[SPEAKER_02]: And how about some help with protection?
40:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Like one of the understeering to read the stories is like, he doesn't help his time.
40:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Kellon, thanks.
40:53
[SPEAKER_02]: He covered banks like, no he hasn't played perfect like he's had some Bumsy Bumsy bruises, drought, but that do play on our island Almost exclusively, bro, like he is by himself on that edge Going against hurts and implying young and barring young allows All the days, bro, Nick Bosa, by himself
41:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't we get a chip or something like can we help our tackle's out a little bit and by the time they can hit some of those down the field shots?
41:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Just they can take me still and feel a dove yet and tell us that if he dies he dies like what he does he dies he'll be I you know people could leave us so I saw one of those in the field of comes that like you know an old line
41:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Criticizing Calvin Bakes with some of his technique and like burrow that man out there fight for his life Because he's fired first his life and he and he won the rep And it just a look pretty you know, so I'm just like burrow like the man is just fight for his life What you want to do you know So Yeah, no just just help on a island against a divisive Rookie of the of the year like Okay
42:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he, he should have did it this way.
42:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, all right, bro.
42:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
42:17
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
42:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Kevin, be trying to kill him.
42:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks, be trying everything, bro.
42:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, that's a, that's a green.
42:28
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a green.
42:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I, I, I said this in our discord earlier this morning is that
42:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Fwaga's injuries, depending how they play out, he might slip to a yellow, which would be very sad.
42:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Just just based on how his rookie years last year went, like just such a promising start in, like it just sucks like, you know, the injury situation potentially might change that.
42:57
[SPEAKER_01]: But as we wrap this up,
43:02
[SPEAKER_01]: To the Saints get their second win of the season on Sunday against the Panthers.
43:10
[SPEAKER_02]: No, absolutely died.
43:16
[SPEAKER_02]: One of them should make a win of game.
43:17
[SPEAKER_02]: They damn should win in a game on a roll.
43:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I put up on a roll.
43:23
[SPEAKER_02]: They are scoring.
43:26
[SPEAKER_02]: The score versus opponents on a roll 56 to 135.
43:32
[SPEAKER_02]: the average 15 points of game on a row.
43:36
[SPEAKER_02]: 30 versus.
43:38
[SPEAKER_02]: First of all, only the titans are worse.
43:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Nigger.
43:41
[SPEAKER_02]: 15 points of game.
43:44
[SPEAKER_02]: 15 in this league, in this league, in the amount of NFL in our league.
43:51
[SPEAKER_02]: 15 points, and you've got an offensive hey coach.
43:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Seriously?
43:59
[SPEAKER_02]: It's this cooking.
44:00
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
44:01
[SPEAKER_02]: This is okay.
44:02
[SPEAKER_02]: No, bro.
44:04
[SPEAKER_02]: No, we win it now.
44:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, I take the air, but just go out there at least.
44:09
[SPEAKER_02]: At least look good, Chuck.
44:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Go out there and look good.
44:13
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I, I was, I, it would be nice and, it's Chuck looks good because I think the biggest thing touchdown, you know, they're going to look good.
44:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Biggest thing of this season is Chuck.
44:24
[SPEAKER_01]: his development and if they feel like going into 2026, if he can at least be a starter, like essentially what
44:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And then obviously that kind of crash and burn after a second season, but like can he be and I'm not comparing him to will love us, but like can he show enough that the Saints feel like he can like shut can potentially start for all of 20, you know, 20, 20, 26.
44:50
[SPEAKER_02]: So then right on, I didn't work out.
44:52
[SPEAKER_02]: No, but after real, that was his first year.
44:54
[SPEAKER_02]: He had a few little flashes, but it was like, man, if we put something around him, you know, let's go see what he got.
45:02
[SPEAKER_02]: And if not,
45:03
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to come around and pick a quarterback the next year, you know what I'm saying and they could do it like that.
45:08
[SPEAKER_02]: So just show us something where You look at you like, man, if I get him a real tight in and a big wire receiver Some running game and get this running game going We got something here like let's hopefully you could show us that if not that's fine Then we just gonna draft the quarterback.
45:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I get it but I just you know that's what the season is about for me right now, you know, I'm saying
45:31
[SPEAKER_01]: That's also funny because the titans lost my gray wall because of that thinking too, so whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops,
46:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that would have been one of the biggest upsets ever, like, yeah, that would have been.
46:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you, you couldn't have told me shit walking out of sofa, bro.
46:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I would have had, I would have been on fucking IG live, like, I, I might have not, not rounds fans don't fight like that.
46:17
[SPEAKER_01]: But like, me and Sherman, me and Sherman together, all we would have been to shit, shit, bro.
46:25
[SPEAKER_01]: It'd been like, Mitch's Mitch's revenge from when he was talking to shit.
46:28
[SPEAKER_01]: We wouldn't have ran into two years ago, I was like, we've got good bro, I don't know what to do.
46:39
[SPEAKER_02]: But what it means about the ram, and he was an asshole.
46:42
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
46:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Like this, bro.
46:45
[SPEAKER_02]: What does he think?
46:47
[SPEAKER_02]: This is going to happen, man.
46:49
[SPEAKER_02]: He was pissed.
46:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh no.
46:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, it'll be fun.
46:57
[SPEAKER_01]: on Sunday, so if you're a Patriot, hop in the Zoom, we always, you know, it'll be a full, you know, full Zoom, I'll be, I'm back, you know, hosting our Zoom and everything.
47:09
[SPEAKER_01]: So hop in the class game, right?
47:12
[SPEAKER_01]: When they were named, think, think that it's God.
47:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Get this shit over, over, bro.
47:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't got the time or energy, but we'll be in the Zoom if you can't,
47:24
[SPEAKER_01]: you know join the zoom we'll have it last week and as well so we'll have everything going on Sunday we appreciate y'all we love y'all we'll be back on Sunday for Saints Panthers with that we are out thanks