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Radio Ranch with Roger Sayles REPLAY 081526 - They Shall Not Grow Old, Medical Monopoly, and the Fight for Freedom · Global Voice Radio Network's tracks

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  Unknown: All has been forwarded to an automated voice messaging system.
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  702.
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  Unknown: Welcome. 5. 2. I tried to call Chris back and he didn't pick up.
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  Okay, Paul, are you there? We got a hello.
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  Good morning. It's February 0,
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  what is it? Sixth?
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  Starting off with a little confusion. Sorry for it. Paul is with us, I think. Chris is there, popped off, trying to get him back on. It's a Wednesday. Hey, Paul. Can you hear me?
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  Unknown: I can I can hear you? Yes. Chris Chris ran away. He said, I'm off.
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  Disappeared. Yeah. No. I think he said he was gonna he was gonna reconnect back in any millisecond
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  Unknown: now. So Yeah. I suspect that that's what's gonna happen. Yeah. He he did, and I tried to call him back and got his answering machine. Let's see if we can bring him back in here.
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  He had something that he's gotta run down the court today and make sure he's not on the docket. Thank you very, very much. There he is. Okay.
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  Unknown: Okay. Yeah. Put me on a horn or mute me out. I can't hear the program live. That's why I called back in but I'll mute myself out. Thank you very much. Yeah. No problem.
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  Unknown: Well, Paul, I guess let's see. Get off on a start here. Tax the rich, feed the poor.
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  How you doing this Wednesday, my friend?
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  Unknown: I'm fine. Yeah. I'm fine. I'm what am I? Am I the rich or the poor? I can't sometimes can't work out. I don't know. I get a bit confused here really.
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  No, I'm not the rich. There you go. I'm not the rich. So, I must be the poor, right? I think it's tax
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  Unknown: tax.
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  What was that? The guy came up with the other day.
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  Fleece the poor.
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  Tax the rich. Yeah. But you fleece the poor and and you might as well open it up with this story. I stumbled on it. Send it out to a couple people here this morning. I think I saw it day before yesterday. Sorry for taking the day off yesterday but
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  Unknown: it it you know. Did you? I didn't even know. That's outrageous. Is that allowed? I know. You sure? They're pretty seamless and
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  Unknown: but I just had to have a done but got right before the show and I said, hell, I just can't do a show. I got too much other stuff. Alright, okay. Through
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  through a replay in and yesterday was like expat
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  lunch day and I'm in a new spot and it's going take a little bit of maneuvering
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  to get over there and all that kind of stuff. So, anyway, I just kind of took a day off. Felt like I needed it back today
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  and
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  I
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  stuck a good Brent replay in there so it's not like they were suffering, you know.
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  Unknown: They are. They're all my I can hear them all. There's a big sharp intake of breath out there in audio land.
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  Going like this. Absolutely.
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  You're a bit you're a bit boomy today and echoey. Is there a reason for that? Should I or should I not pry? I don't know, man. I mean, you know how I am with all this technical stuff. Now, Shane,
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  Unknown: you gotta hang up before I can call you back.
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  Unknown: Tell you. My back
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  off your speaker or your microphone just a little bit. It'll probably help you over modulate you. How about that? Is that better?
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  Unknown: You know what I I
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  switched
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  the other day when we got all this, Paul.
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  I was using Yeah. You you Yeah.
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  Unknown: You sound funny. You sound as though you're not I What are you actually use We might as well try and get this sorted if we can. What are you actually using? You're using a headset today? Using the the bed and the ear bombs from
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  Unknown: from the other set.
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  And I I what I'll do is just switch back over and put the headphones on. I think that'll straighten out a lot of that.
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  It'll straighten out a lot. Yeah. It will do I think. Yes. If I can get Shane going in here a second, I and
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  he wanted to call in and see
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  there he is. Okay. I think that's him.
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  Boy, you gotta jump through some hoops. Alright, well, we'll get, I'll just get here and reach my hand over here, guys.
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  I wonder if I can plug em both here at the same time. I bet I can. Shane,
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  are you there? You with us?
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  Shane.
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  Okay. No, he's not. Well, he's not. Oh, someone's just arriving now. You know, this is I I try and discourage these guys from just calling in and listening on line
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  for the on the phone line for the show when they could listen in a number of other ways because of situations like this right here. A dog so I got some dogs that are raising hell. So, just bear with me, folks.
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  Unknown: So,
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  Unknown: there's a dog chewing at your ankles. This is interesting, Roger. Puts excitement into the show. Well, now, they're not chewing on my ankles at this point. Not yet, they're not. Well, they're outside. I'm inside. So, I've got some protection and insulation but they're raising hell at somebody walking along the back of the property there. Let's try this.
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  I think this will work. Let me see on the switch over. Shane, did you ever join us?
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  You never got with us. Chris, are you still there?
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  Unknown: If you just pulled into your new heads or your old headset or new headset, it changed dramatically, the volume went down a lot. You were Yeah. Pretty
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  You were pretty good before you switched because you backed off terrible before you switched.
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  Unknown: Your volume was okay, but you were really boomy. There's something I don't know what it is. You just need to turn this one up if you can, Roger. How about this? Can you hear me now? Yeah. Now we're there. That's better. Yep. I know.
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  Unknown: Well, the volumes are a lot better too.
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  Unknown: Alright. Now, we can hear you now. That's great. Alright,
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  Unknown: man. Oh, boy. It's loud.
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  Hey,
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  switching computers, all this stuff. You know, this is one time though, Paul. I've had this portable as you know for a year. It's the one I bought up in The States last year on that trip. Yeah. And when I got back, I haven't used it at all. It's been sitting over there for a whole year. So, it this is one of those opportune times to drag it out and it was insurance.
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  Yeah. Because we couldn't be doing the show if we were doing it on the other one. Now let me see, I'm a little bit off. How are our levels out there now, guys?
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  Unknown: I got a message saying you were still a little bit low, Roger, but Okay. Well, I did. I don't think that was the reference to your mental condition. I think it was the audio volume, I believe it was, and I think this probably straightened things out right there.
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  Unknown: Yeah. You sound good now. You're sounding good. Okay. Maybe we can get the show going now. Well, sorry for all the confusion.
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  Unknown: Well, I'm gonna go, I'm afraid.
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  Sorry. I just tune in for the audio mess. I think it's the most fun part of the whole thing, really. I don't know what we're gonna talk about now. I'm gonna tell you what, we wouldn't be doing this if it wasn't for this guy right here. You've got a monopoly on how all this stuff fits together and works.
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  Unknown: Okay.
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  As I was saying, tax the rich,
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  tax the poor.
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  I shot this little, story right out before the show started. Got stumbled on it night before last. New Jersey New
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  Jersey
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  has is on the way to passing a tax
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  on the rain.
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  Unknown: On the rain? The rain.
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  Unknown: A rain tax is about to become a reality
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  in New Jersey. And it seems
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  that the excuse for the rain tax is the stress on the public utilities
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  as because they have to put a lot of salt on the roads in the winter
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  and the the rain washes it down and it overloads the utilities that they've set up, water, etcetera
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  and so they devised a way that if you've got more asphalt
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  or concrete on your property that you get taxed more because the rain runs off more from your property.
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  Unknown: Right.
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  Right. So strange strange interesting and strange. I don't know. Asphalt's a funny word, isn't it? You never want to have your asphalt No. As they say.
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  Unknown: Hang on. What? That's you. Okay.
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  Unknown: Yeah. You see, now, here's a even I'm messed up. Right? Yep. I have I've got this Skype thing, the new Skype updated. Sorry to bore everybody with audio stuff.
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  And my my Skype this is driving me oh, god. Blimey. Shut up. I can't turn the sounds off. It's the sounds are all turned off like I've run it for four years without any sounds, and the new version, no. It wants to keep playing sounds into look at this. It's just outrageous. Go away.
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  So I'm very, very cross about sorry about this. I don't know how to do it because all the switches are off even I'm fumbling around like some audio neophyte it's a dreadful state of affairs so you turn it off and it still makes a sound I mean what you're supposed to do with that outrageous.
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  Unknown: It has added some confusion and frustration to the New Year, I'm gonna tell you.
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  Unknown: Yeah. I don't like it. I don't I don't even know where the sounds are coming in. So,
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  yeah, what what are you supposed to do when you've turned it off and it still makes a sound? So,
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  Unknown: Oh, I love it. Isn't it great? Hey. It's just And it challenge. There we go. It's a challenge, man. It's these wonderful challenges that the lord puts in front of us and I will say as I get older, I'm dealing with them a lot better.
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  But
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  Unknown: boy. If I might offer. Yeah.
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  Unknown: You can offer.
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  Unknown: Well, since you were talking about electronic harassment
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  being terrorized by extraneous noises, you can't turn off your computer.
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  I've observed a warm and some infiltrated mind that I'm still able to listen to something on,
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  and it it's like a train whistle. In fact, I've
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  what dubbed it a terror watch. I put down TWTW,
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  terror watch train whistle because it sounds like a Union Pacific,
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  Santa Fe chief
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  going down, and it comes in on a variator anywhere from, like, every minute to two minutes to ten minutes. It's very difficult to figure out what it is. So when I'm I'm doing work on the computer, I have to just mute it out. It doesn't bother me so bad. I can't listen to something on it, but it is rather innocuous, and it's an attack on the psyche. It's a former psycho political warfare.
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  Unknown: Well, okay.
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  We're being attacked from a lot of different angles and a lot of different ways. I know that for sure.
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  Believe it or not, we really did wanna have a program of some kind of low substance today. It's pretty difficult when you have to deal with this at the start but we'll see if we can get the old train back on the track.
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  Paul and I didn't, we don't usually have things on the agenda on these Wednesday shows but we did kind of day have one thing.
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  Two weeks or so ago, I saw one of these little stories and I sent it to a little blurb of the film over to Paul. I think it's They Shall Never Die and
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  it it sparked interest because I've got a curiosity about these things and low and behold, Paul comes back to me the other night and sends me the whole movie
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  of which he, you know, I'd send him the trailer on and he said, try and watch it for Wednesday. We'll have something to talk about. Well, I've been able to watch it, Paul.
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  Have you? Yeah, took a couple of settings.
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  Because of net speed and this, that, and the other but I did get to see it all
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  And why don't you fill the audience in on this? Can we put that link up on the show description today? Will that work?
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  Unknown: Sure. Yeah. We can do that afterwards. That shouldn't be a problem. I'm
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  just getting a report through that you're still a little bit low. You're you're very loud in my lug holes, by the way. So I don't know if there's something that you need to adjust for. Is that Are you showing okay
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  Unknown: on butt as it were on streaming? You seem to be up there, do you? Yeah. It looks like I guess I could go up a little bit here. Let me try and pay a little more closer attention to that. Well, I keep raising the thing and it doesn't raise me. That's
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  I I mean, do I have to set the slide? Doesn't raise my level. It doesn't seem like. So Put a little more Viagra in your computer.
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  I want. That's a cheat. I want to get all of this technical stuff straight and I think we're real close to accomplishing that but we can't do it until for either Friday or at the latest should be Monday. We're going to have 40 megs fiber up and down and the routers right here in this room.
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  So, hoorah.
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  Finally,
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  man. You don't know how many years I've dreamed of a situation like that
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  coming into reality and it's about here, so just bear with us a little bit longer.
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  Paul, you want to tell
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  the folks about this film a little bit and give some background? It's
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  very impressive.
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  Okay.
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  Unknown: Yeah, no it is.
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  By the way I've got now I've got an echo, I've got my voice coming back at me in my head, how's that ham?
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  Unknown: Oh I didn't touch a thing except that slide. Oh boy,
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  Unknown: Okay hang on, it seems to have gone there, that's good that may have been just a little bit of caching. Okay,
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  oh anyway, alright so yeah there's everybody will have heard of I'm assuming or most people will have seen the films The Lord of the Rings trilogy
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  which were the director of those a chap called Peter Jackson from New Zealand
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  and
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  because of the
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  one hundred year anniversary of the end of World War One,
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  he was invited
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  by the I think it's probably the Imperial War Museum over here
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  to see if he could make a film taking some of the old archive footage from that conflict because it was the first
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  major conflict that was filmed you know
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  a lot a lot of footage, we've probably only seen maybe one hundredth of it there's lots and lots of footage,
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  and he had a particular interest because his I think it was his grandfather?
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  His grandfather was
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  I think he was from Wales,
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  was part of the Welsh Fusiliers which was a regiment that was out there, something like that. I might have got the regiment wrong but there's definitely a family connection so he had a great interest in it. Borderers?
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  Yeah something like that and
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  so he
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  obviously anybody that's seen the Lord of the Rings films, there's all sorts of technical wizardry that took place in those which kind of really pushed the envelope
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  and I can't believe, I was thinking today, I mean they're 17 and 18 years old those films, it's just incredible really and I've got a great fondness for them
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  purely because I read the book and the book was pivotal in my youth growing up, was just a marvelous sort of
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  three months of disappearing out of the world as I read that and
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  obviously you know many people I think I've read it a couple of times, might read it one more time
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  for this installment of Life and
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  it's interestingly
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  of course Tolkien, the author of that I'm stitching a few thoughts here together but Tolkien was in World War One
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  and
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  in very many ways the
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  hobbits
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  are actually they're characteristic of this sort of jolly pragmatism and decency is based very much
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  on the
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  troops that he had under him, he was an officer was Tolkien,
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  and this is what Sam Gamgee kind of sums up the British Tommy in Tolkien's world, I think anyway, and I'm putting that forward.
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  And and the battle scenes that are in the Lord of the Rings are based on very much Tolkien saw a Mordor
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  is effective a somme. There's no other way to describe it. You'll you'll when you see this film, those that see, They Shall Not Die or They Shall Never Go Not Gold is
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  you can see the connection between the two, it's very very strong. Anyway Jackson got in there and
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  he
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  brings a tremendous degree of
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  technical computer wizardry
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  to bear on images,
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  as anybody would know it's been a thing he's always been interested in and of course he's fantastic at it to such a degree that now,
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  of course, he's not alone in this, one barely knows these things. I mean, the the negative side, of course, of all this CGI stuff is, I would suggest,
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  very few of the characters that now occur in most modern films are worth tons and you don't care about them at all and it's just all trite,
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  smart one liners and sort of guff all the way along. So it's rather shallow fare I think from the point of view of addressing
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  issues of the art and of the higher head. There's not much of that going on at all but Roger has been spectacular.
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  Anyway,
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  he went in and
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  a series of things came together but in the early 1960s, about '61 I think it was or 1962,
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  many of those guys that fought in World War one were still alive. I mean, they would have been in their late teens and twenties
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  when they went in. So they were in their sixties
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  by then, and
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  they interviewed a lot of them, did the BBC and created this great archive of these recordings which have a very high audio quality.
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  I don't know what they used to record them, probably you know state of the art tape recorders back in the early sixties but they're very high audio quality and
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  what Jackson's done is he's brought all these voices together from all these
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  disparate regiments and
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  all of them the men that actually did the fighting
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  and they provide the voiceover for the entire film. There is no official narrator, this is not some organized narration
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  event.
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  All the narration is provided
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  by these firsthand testimonies from the guys that actually were there
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  and
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  they say things particularly in the early part which just
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  which rewire the way that you view it. They were thrilled to go,
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  they were thrilled to go.
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  They couldn't wait to leave England and go and fight, they were okay with it.
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  They ended up in hell and they were still happy about being there. This is you know, you can't sort of get your brain around it in times, not all of them. I'm not saying that you know, they're not saying that this was great in the picnic by
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  any means, but the first 20 of the film, I think it's about first twenty minutes, is effectively black and white footage
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  as we've all seen
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  with these voiceovers showing how they came really off of Sidney Street, how they were young, there's some very funny lines, some very funny lines. What was one guy said? He said I wanted to see the recruiting sergeant
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  and
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  you had to be
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  19 to get in. It's something like this. See, you gotta be 19 to to get in. So I didn't know this. He asked me my age, I said I'm I'm eighteen years and one month. He said, oh, I think you better go outside and have a birthday.
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  Unknown: Come back!
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  Unknown: Absolutely fantastic, alright I'll go
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  outside and have a birthday. There's another one where he's talking to a vicar, he said I'm 16 or something and the vicar asked me my age, told him I was 16, he said I'll pray for you. Because
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  he could sit and think the guy was to get into the whole thing you know.
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  So
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  these are very fresh faced
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  but undernourished people. I think I may have mentioned here before,
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  there's a great interview with
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  Montgomery,
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  know, Lord Montgomery of Alamein from the Second World War but he was in the First World War Two
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  and
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  was with him on Canadian TV from the early 1960s.
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  I guess similar period when they were recording all these World One guys actually,
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  and he talks about the fact that
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  starvation was the number one recruiting agent into the British Army. People were not being fed properly on Civvie Street, so the idea of getting into the Army and getting fed was really really appealing and I think there's a little statement early on that says on average all the people, all these young lads that came in, they grew an inch and they all put a stone on him weight after about three months of training.
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  And turned obviously we're getting him fit, very fit and strong because they had to march with about one hundred and ten pounds on the back and all this kind of stuff and blah blah blah. So this is the first twenty minutes which kind of closes with
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  them disembarking
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  at the Quayside in France,
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  they get onto trains, get in there marching and they're on horses and they're going through the countryside
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  coming up to the front
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  and then something quite spectacular
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  happens. You've got this footage that we're all familiar with, know, jumping around a little bit, missed frames,
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  slightly speeded up, that kind of stuff, you're all familiar with that, and what happens then about twenty two minutes in is that there's a little cluster of them walking towards the front and the film
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  slows down to actual
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  real speed.
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  All the detail is amplified colossally and it comes in as full HD color
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  with audio the lot and it's the effect is dazzling.
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  It's absolutely amazing and it's as if someone was running around World War One with an iPhone shooting it in HD. It's quite something and it changes
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  it did for me just change your whole perception of what they were going through because it makes it
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  visually so
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  intense when you're looking at it and I got lost in the film. I mean obviously it's more relevant I suppose to me Roger, it being about British men primarily.
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  Obviously the Germans are covered as well and
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  but it
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  was really intense just to see them, you see their face is really close-up and there's some it's harrowing. I mean there's no I'm not trying to say that this is a picnic, this is not a joyful thing but boy is it intense
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  and is it real and what a time machine. What he's done here is quite spectacular and I saw an interview with him actually, I was watching it the other day after I'd watched the film and he was saying that he thought he said I could have made the film three or four times longer easily. He said we just he said how long do you want me to make it? He said you know there was so much material that we could use, so much more that would add to it even further.
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  He said but you know we had a time limit, we had to have it ready really for the November
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  Right.
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  2018.
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  But he also mentioned, he said that every single bit of archival footage in the world needs to have this process done to it and I think he's right because it's
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  it's breathtaking actually. It took my breath away when I saw it when these this guy turns to the camera and he's just like a normal 19 year old today. That's what that's the impact it got on me as if that had just happened yesterday because of the intensity and clarity of the images. Okay you can tell that the the dress is different, the technology is different,
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  Unknown: but wow I was knocked out by it, it really got me. I would the trailer knocked me out a couple of weeks ago. I didn't have a dream that I'd be able to sit down and see the film, and I'm I I will go back and watch it again. It's not the most pleasant subjects.
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  No. And it's right up front on the actual film footage and in the colorized section.
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  Some of it's extremely graphic in the pictures and in the verbiage and the descriptions.
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  And Yep. It'll give you chills,
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  okay? And I had to turn it off. I I got, you know, the first first time, I just wanted to get away after it turned to color already and it was getting in to that part and I just away. You know, you can only take so much of that at one setting. Okay? Yes. Or at least I I can't. Alright?
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  But I'm fascinated
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  by the whole thing.
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  I don't believe I saw
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  one good set of teeth in the whole movie.
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  Unknown: No. I think someone wrote in the review that it's not a good advert for British dentistry.
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  Unknown: That's
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  an understatement.
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  Unknown: The British are known out there for having wonky teeth. You get sir Cedric so and so, lord this, that, the other, and he opens his mouth and his teeth are like sort of, you know, tombstones that have come out of zombie land. They're just everywhere. You go, what is that in your mouth? I said, okay. You know? But their teeth all over the place. You can't take your eyes off it. It was a terrible thing. Nobody cared
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  about their bloody teeth.
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  Unknown: Unbelievable. Yeah, is that quite amazing really? Yeah. Let me, I guess got a message, we're discussing a movie that is where is it? Is it being
• 26:11
  released in theaters or is it just going around? It is, it stays. Yeah I contacted
• 26:17
  Unknown: I was speaking to
• 26:19
  a
• 26:21
  good colleague of mine, guy you may know him a guy called
• 26:25
  Thomas Goodrich who's the author of Hellstorm which is about World War Two
• 26:30
  and I sent him information about it to watch it and I haven't spoken to him since, I'm hoping that he was watching it last night and
• 26:37
  but he was telling me it's on in certain theatres still in The States, it was released as a documentary in theatres
• 26:44
  and on TV over here
• 26:47
  and sort of had a worldwide release in many ways, so it is a documentary but it's
• 26:52
  it's unlike any documentary that I mean really it's gonna reset the mold for making documentaries It by taking archival
• 26:58
  Unknown: will absolutely
• 26:59
  set the mark from here on out.
• 27:02
  Unknown: Yes. It's a it's a phenomenal piece of work and I should I don't know quite how many man hours go into doing all this kind of stuff, but I mean, you just think about say the Laurel and Hardy films. What what I everybody's seen recolorized
• 27:14
  film and it's a bit hit and miss, but this is just like,
• 27:18
  wow. Where did you get those HDTV cameras from from 1914?
• 27:21
  That's how it was on me and I
• 27:24
  If you ever the language that they use as well is so
• 27:28
  English, I mean it's really understated The you
• 27:32
  line that one guy is saying, there's a big one
• 27:36
  thing that he says the Germans he said
• 27:39
  started to dig tunnels and put enormous bombs under the field which was pretty annoying.
• 27:45
  Annoying!
• 27:46
  It's just fantastic.
• 27:48
  I'm sorry I just revel in this stuff, that's a bit annoying.
• 27:51
  Mean that's it's just so English, I mean I love all
• 27:55
  can't help it, it's in my blood to talk to want to be that sort of restrained right? There's something sort of charming and mad about the whole thing but
• 28:03
  obviously you know when it builds up to that battle where they I mean that's that's very that's unbelievable is that because you know the camera is on all these guys,
• 28:12
  I think there's what is it this what did the officer say? He said 600
• 28:16
  of my men went in
• 28:18
  and only a 100 came out alive. Right. And
• 28:21
  you're looking at them all before they're all getting blown to bits and then it goes it's just it's unbelievable really. Know I was in
• 28:28
  all there are so many emotions going on watching them do it and
• 28:33
  you know there's a I think there's a telling comment early on where he said look men in those days were told what to do and just did it, he just got on with it and did it and that was in civilian life, the whole structuring of life
• 28:43
  and yet and yet in spite of all that from our perspective here,
• 28:49
  you see a sort of comradeship and a connection that's just phenomenal
• 28:53
  really.
• 28:55
  Unknown: An amazing movie
• 28:56
  in
• 28:59
  in so many ways.
• 29:00
  I'm gonna tell all you Patriot folks who've been out there running around in the woods and stuff for all these years.
• 29:08
  Trench warfare
• 29:09
  is not the way to live.
• 29:12
  Okay?
• 29:13
  Unknown: And. Oh my. You you
• 29:15
  Unknown: get a incredibly
• 29:17
  involved
• 29:19
  and
• 29:19
  up close and personal view
• 29:22
  of what it must have been like to be back there in those trenches. I mean, it's absolutely startling
• 29:28
  piece of work, okay?
• 29:30
  What these guys put together. They they went into the one of the couple of things that stuck with me.
• 29:36
  Difficult,
• 29:37
  difficult. I'm I'm going to do a Freudian slip here. Is
• 29:41
  Yeah. When they had to use the bathroom.
• 29:44
  Unknown: And what they do is So where did you get those photographs from? I've never seen that before in my life.
• 29:52
  Unknown: Yeah. They Unbelievable. They got a pit dug,
• 29:55
  and to use the can,
• 29:57
  they would string
• 29:58
  a a a pole, a tree limb, or something across, and there are pictures on there. They look like birds sitting on a wire, except their butts hanging on these on these pieces of wood.
• 30:12
  Unknown: These pasty white bottoms all in the in the French sunshine. It's quite a sight, isn't it? You go, woah. Okay. Nature could have done a bit better than that, but, hey, ho, that's what we got. But the guy's telling the story in part of the narration, and he said, one day, three guys got on there and one of em was heavy and it broke the
• 30:31
  Unknown: thing and all three of them fell in the into
• 30:34
  the pot, into the pit and they had to, they said, to get em out, they somebody put their rifle down and they get them out of there and they said nobody wanted to even be close to them, but can you imagine that? I mean, man, it just gave me chills.
• 30:50
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 30:51
  Yeah. It was I mean, there's some of the pictures where it shows you where the
• 30:56
  they're talking about the smell of death everywhere, there's horses blown to bits everywhere, in another like three yards away from dead horses there's
• 31:04
  what's left of a man in just of several men in just pieces.
• 31:08
  I mean the whole thing is just you know it's atrocious and yet you look at the they're all smiling at the camera even through to 1918.
• 31:17
  Yep. You know you're going
• 31:19
  wow
• 31:21
  and maybe that's how you'd react, you go look I could be dead any minute now so I might as well be happy.
• 31:26
  I mean maybe that's you know you just adjust.
• 31:29
  Obviously I thought that you know some of the descriptions as well the guy talking about the shelling, the shelling
• 31:34
  sounded
• 31:35
  worse
• 31:36
  because of the psychological terror of it,
• 31:39
  that you would just your nerve would break because of the pounding, the continual pounding and in the end you know the guys are throwing themselves in the ground because they just it's that anticipation of being blunt a bit that's worse than getting blunt a bit, if you know what I mean. I know that sounds a ridiculous thing to say. Said psychological
• 31:56
  Unknown: pressure, man, and and it was twenty four seven.
• 31:59
  Try
• 32:01
  sleeping
• 32:02
  in a trench
• 32:04
  up in a cave you've dug on the side of it at night with shelling going on all the time. I guess, you know, we got some Vietnam vets, I'm sure, listening and they probably
• 32:15
  Yep. I'm sure this gives a lot of people cold chills, okay? It's not pleasant subject matter but the importance of it is that this particular war
• 32:25
  is the one that set the foundation for everything we're dealing with right now.
• 32:29
  Unknown: Correct,
• 32:30
  it is, and I think, you know, some of the really
• 32:34
  telling scenes are as when they are capturing Germans,
• 32:38
  which are quite gentle scenes, they're not scenes of violence,
• 32:41
  and you look at them and I'm looking at all that the only difference is the uniform and you get how mad it is. It's brothers
• 32:49
  slaughtering
• 32:50
  brothers for no damn reason, well for somebody else's reason but not theirs. Yeah Lord Milton. And that's what really strikes you, mean that the Germans had you know that was an English lad he said, I tried to get in at 14
• 33:04
  and I didn't make it. Anyway, a year went by so I thought 15 I'd have a better chance and I got in. I got into the army at 15 and
• 33:12
  half of the guys fighting in Germany fifteen sixteen seventeen year olds, it's on both sides.
• 33:18
  I've got sons that age, it's just unbelievable
• 33:21
  to think that that's what could occur to people so young,
• 33:24
  and
• 33:26
  you can see when they're capturing the what was that lovely telling bit where he says
• 33:30
  oh yeah every time he said they didn't have to do this he said but whenever a man fell
• 33:34
  or new wounded came in he said the Germans that we'd already captured would get up and put a stretch and start carrying them around.
• 33:40
  Didn't have to do that
• 33:42
  Unknown: he said And nobody
• 33:44
  told them
• 33:45
  Unknown: to do it. Nobody told them, they just did it because that's what we are like as people, we're like that.
• 33:52
  I mean you know the journey one guy said, an English guy was saying, Tommy was saying that they captured someone they were fearful he said if they put their hands up we didn't show them,
• 34:01
  knew.
• 34:03
  There was none of this sort of vindictive let's slaughter everybody although obviously in that battle that the
• 34:08
  bloodlust is up and it goes absolutely berserk doesn't it in that that major part of the film and that's understandable.
• 34:14
  Good grief. What you're supposed to do, you know, you're just walking along and somebody next to you is blunt to bits.
• 34:19
  It's I don't know how you're gonna react. I, you know, I don't wanna go through that. Because Because that
• 34:23
  Unknown: can say? A psychopath
• 34:25
  named Lloyd
• 34:27
  Lord Milner
• 34:28
  got together with another psychopath named Cecil Rhodes and a couple of their pals,
• 34:34
  and they fomented
• 34:35
  this.
• 34:37
  Unknown: They did.
• 34:39
  Yeah. They did. And they were out there, were they?
• 34:42
  No. They were out there. I always know this. They're not out there, these people, and
• 34:47
  their sons are not Here's your here's your Damn
• 34:50
  it. The town I'm in right now
• 34:52
  You know Arthur Conan Doyle, the author of Sherlock Holmes?
• 34:57
  Well there's a church here that was paid for by Doyle
• 35:01
  because he lost his son in World War one and this is what turned him to spiritualism. He became very involved in spiritualism because of that
• 35:09
  and
• 35:10
  there's a little church here paid for and built by Conan Doyle because of the damage they did. Rudyard Kipling, similarly he lost his son in World War One. Oh did he really? So the devastation, you know, we're not going into that from a this is looking at your working guy
• 35:24
  in England
• 35:25
  who you know their life wasn't great in 1914,
• 35:29
  they got into the war and for many of them you can tell it was a thrill of a lifetime.
• 35:34
  I know it sounds ridiculous, mean what was one statement he said well actually it was all rather fun, I'm paraphrasing from him, said something like it was all rather fun really, it was a bit like going camping apart from the dangerous bits every now and again.
• 35:46
  Just go what? That
• 35:48
  Unknown: know? From the attitude.
• 35:50
  But that was their attitude. You know? Attitudes that shine forth
• 35:54
  through that narration,
• 35:57
  and, you know, it's hard you can hear people smile on audio tracks and you can hear those emotions.
• 36:04
  They come through Okay. Really well.
• 36:06
  And
• 36:07
  I'm telling you, it's amazing to me. It just like Paul was saying, obviously, the economy was not doing good because a lot of people were looking for things to do. Right?
• 36:17
  And Mhmm. And so the guy said, I walked by we went out to lunch, and I walked by a recruiting office, and there was a thousand people in line.
• 36:26
  Yeah. Okay? And so they jumped in there. They went off. They kept a good attitude. They didn't have any super
• 36:35
  animus. They had a little, oh, we're going to go get Jerry before it. But when they got over there and they got actually in battle and got to the point where people were surrendering and what, there was no animus.
• 36:46
  It doesn't come through on any of those people's
• 36:49
  narration.
• 36:50
  Okay? No.
• 36:51
  Unknown: No. It's nothing personal. It was just like a filthy, dirty, useless job. The one guy was just saying, you know, was talking to the Germans and he said, whenever we talked, we all came to the conclusion, what the bloody hell are we doing really? Yes. Right. Why are we at war? Nobody could understand it. Now now the other thing that was struck me at the end, and of course, I'm I'm a Vietnam era kid. Okay?
• 37:12
  Unknown: And
• 37:13
  what struck me was they had the exact same syndrome as the Vietnam vets coming back.
• 37:19
  People didn't want to hear about it. They didn't and they had all this stress and all this trauma that they've been going through and these things pent up in them way before they knew what PTSD
• 37:28
  was, okay? And they come back and the economy has gotten worse and they can't find jobs on top of coming back and being shunned
• 37:36
  by everybody in the society and it was real telling to me. The parallels of that in Vietnam
• 37:42
  just struck me when it when they were going over that part of the film.
• 37:46
  Unknown: I think yeah. You you raise a really good point. That that last closing ten minutes when they're looking at the fallout after it being called off were really telling, and I've
• 37:55
  that aspect is heartbreaking, really. You and then I was thinking about it in a more calm way because when I was in the film and I felt like I'd fallen into this world for an hour and thirty five minutes, I came out in a daze actually. It's like time just completely stops and I watched it with my son, I told him I said there's gonna be nasty stuff, he said I'm okay and he was, he was fine,
• 38:14
  and we watched this and he he just said that was amazing, said it really was.
• 38:19
  In terms of being transported to another place I got lost and you felt as though these people were your friends? I did, know they're like people I grew up with, they're just like that.
• 38:29
  Even today you know in rural areas of England people are like that. They might have longer hair and wear dumb tattoos and everything now, not all of them though, But that element is still present, it's definitely present and the fact that they would return
• 38:43
  and
• 38:43
  then be shunned by the civilians or not shunned, the civilians didn't have a clue what had taken place and I thought now why did they not have a clue? Because obviously to a great degree
• 38:55
  true reporting of what was actually occurring had never occurred, there'd never been any honorable honest reporting
• 39:02
  of the sheer
• 39:03
  hell, it's all jingoistic reporting when you look at it and we'll have a jar of jam and we'll see to it blah blah blah, all that sort of you know stiff upper lip denying the actual true horror of it all. I mean you know traditionally as a people we're not we're not known for indulging in our emotions. Well, one of guys changed of course recently with everybody blathering all over the place, know, but that's not really what we do.
• 39:24
  Unknown: One of the guys that was an extreme. One of the guys in the central planning all this, one of their buddies, the psychopath bastard,
• 39:32
  was a guy named Stede
• 39:34
  who wrote for a real prestigious
• 39:37
  Unknown: Stede, Stede, it's pronounced Stede, just to let you know. William T. Stede, w t Stede, yes. Who was a very influential journalist for a very influential publication. The publication of publications or something.
• 39:48
  Unknown: He had a strange name,
• 39:51
  a redundant name, but he was right there at the center
• 39:55
  of all this planning and involvement, and he was the, obviously,
• 39:59
  the journalistic
• 40:01
  kingpin.
• 40:03
  Unknown: Yeah, he was he was very much so and
• 40:06
  probably like the rest an ambivalent figure. I mean it's just
• 40:10
  it's the it's what occurs,
• 40:12
  well maybe it doesn't always occur, but certainly occurred here.
• 40:17
  There is this sort of a snotty aloofness that exists
• 40:21
  within a certain class
• 40:22
  of
• 40:23
  so called privileged people here in this country and it's been building for a long time you know. This country wasn't a class ridden country a thousand years ago,
• 40:33
  but that evolved and built up and you know you could say that the presence of money
• 40:39
  and the falling into the capitalistic system amplified
• 40:42
  these differences and they atrophied
• 40:45
  and to the point where literally the officer class almost like look as the
• 40:51
  know the foot soldier,
• 40:52
  as just expendable cannon fodder that literally was a phrase and there definitely is an aspect of that. There again what comes across in this
• 41:01
  really telling was actually their respect for the officers that knocked them into shape even though they hated their guts.
• 41:09
  Basically they said they were really really tough and really nasty but actually you've got to give them credit, They knocked us into shape and made us tough enough to deal with this. They had one of those one of those drill sergeants. The guy was telling the story, and they passed a big pot at night and said,
• 41:24
  Unknown: pee in here, and that they got all the barracks pee and put it in this big pot and rigged it up on the door when the when he walked in the morning, it emptied all over him.
• 41:37
  Unknown: Yeah. They said they said there was nearly a gallon of pee in there. That's a lot of what did he call it? He said, the fluid. I remember, I like I catch these words. The fluid went all over him. Yeah. I bet it I bet it did. Yes. They were very refined, and part of these guys
• 41:55
  Unknown: later on in life
• 41:58
  recalling, you can tell some of them are very elderly.
• 42:02
  Yes. And
• 42:03
  recalling
• 42:04
  these memories
• 42:06
  of this part
• 42:08
  of their lives and hearing hearing the emotion in their voices.
• 42:13
  Unknown: Yep.
• 42:15
  Unknown: Okay? It's a it's a stunning The soundtrack the soundtrack, you know, we could you could almost take the soundtrack and play it on radio. It's that evocative. You but the thing is you've got to see the whole because the when it's combined with those restored high definition images and there's those bits where they're walking through the trench and one guy turns back and looks at the camera, his face I'm just it's a really good looking some of the faces are fantastic
• 42:39
  in there they're really
• 42:40
  just great
• 42:42
  looking blokes if you know what mean they're just like men and I'm sure they were all there across and in the Germans as well
• 42:48
  and What did he say when they kept you? He said oh well when we met the Germans he said they were a bit like us really, clerks,
• 42:55
  barbers, things like that, really nice people.
• 42:58
  That's how they were talking about really nice people. So they got on well with the
• 43:02
  didn't get on well with the Prussians though. I remember there's a comment in there that they said that the Bavarians and everything got great with, they could kill Bavarians,
• 43:11
  Bavarians could kill us quite because of that Saxon connection but the Prussians were different and you know the incident or you would be aware of the incident where
• 43:20
  I think it was
• 43:22
  think it's right at the very it's the very first Christmas of the war, I think it's the Christmas at the end of 1914.
• 43:28
  So
• 43:30
  there is
• 43:32
  there was an armistice
• 43:33
  called along a certain section of the front
• 43:36
  and the German troops and the British troops got out and played football. Everybody knows about this. There's a film we've made about it, right? And they sat around and played songs and and and
• 43:45
  shared jokes and all that kind of stuff. What's not so commonly known is that that was just one section of the line and the reason it happened there is that the British and the Germans were basically cut the same branch of this from the same tree, the same root people and therefore
• 44:03
  on a vibrational racial level they just kind of get one another
• 44:07
  down the line, 300 yards down the line was a Prussian division and that never stopped fighting.
• 44:14
  300 yards away, they were still fighting whilst they were playing football 300 yards up the road
• 44:19
  and that's interesting isn't it? It shows you the power of these connections that you pick up on these vibes and understandings of people without language or anything, you just get it. The
• 44:30
  Unknown: title for the people that are just coming in that we're talking about is this magnificent
• 44:34
  new film
• 44:36
  and it's called They Shall Not Grow Old.
• 44:42
  And. That's right. It's
• 44:44
  I'm going to put the link to the full length film in today's show description on Castbox
• 44:50
  and. Yeah.
• 44:52
  For anybody that wants to see it, it is
• 44:56
  well worth spending an hour or whatever it is watching it. If you'll you can hear the effect it's had just on Paul and myself.
• 45:03
  It it in this discussion with just one watching really.
• 45:09
  But I I was really stunned by it. I love the history, and I the the actuality
• 45:14
  of this,
• 45:15
  it you're right in it. With the colorization to
• 45:19
  the degree
• 45:21
  and the things they've done to bring out those things in the film, it puts you right there.
• 45:29
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 45:30
  It does. You'll never see World War one the same again after you've seen the film since Hollywood
• 45:34
  Unknown: production with Rambo. No. You're right there.
• 45:38
  Just like the BBC photographer,
• 45:41
  you're right there.
• 45:45
  Unknown: Yes. It's quite a thing. It's quite a thing. And of course, as you said, you know, the voiceovers, getting the insights from the guys that participated
• 45:53
  in it
• 45:54
  and their attitudes is quite a thing you know, there's a
• 45:58
  I'd seen the footage in black and white for years, there's a bit where there's a sort of
• 46:02
  there's a
• 46:04
  a platoon, a British platoon with horses
• 46:06
  racing away over this little and they get hit by a shell, you can see it, and there's
• 46:12
  a voiceover talking about how every time a horse died it was the young lads that were looking after the horses that were heartbroken and had to be given a day off.
• 46:21
  They would say you've got to give him rest because he's lost his horse, know the horses just got absolutely blown to bits as well and this so the whole sort of just nothing but death and blood and guts of every sort of living thing all over the place,
• 46:34
  it's inconceivable today. And
• 46:37
  the reason why it appears almost
• 46:39
  you know the nutcase scenario that it is, because it's obviously is, is the sheer confinement of it. It's not about armies moving hundreds of miles over several weeks and waging another battle to
• 46:51
  strategically do this, it's not it's everybody bogged down for four years in
• 46:56
  trenches
• 46:57
  blowing each other to bits. And the It's like
• 47:00
  Unknown: If you've got a fear of rats,
• 47:03
  Unknown: just close your eyes. Don't watch it. You get to that Because
• 47:08
  Unknown: some of the actual footage out of there
• 47:11
  I I mean, listen, it's stunning and startling,
• 47:14
  and it it
• 47:16
  should
• 47:18
  really crystallize
• 47:20
  all of our
• 47:22
  views against
• 47:24
  what these people have done to get where they are.
• 47:30
  Unknown: Well I think the less you know you're absolutely right and the lesson for us is that
• 47:36
  we have to find a way to make sure that this does not continue because it is continuing okay, not in that graphic explosive
• 47:44
  destructive way all the time as it did then solidly for four years, but we know it continued
• 47:50
  with World War Two,
• 47:52
  we know it did,
• 47:54
  and of course that this film is not pretending, it's not even aiming I should say, not pretending at all, but it's not aiming to cover all the sort of geopolitical background
• 48:02
  to World War one,
• 48:04
  which of course has been explained falsely to us by the court historians for a long time. Now obviously we here and others listening in
• 48:13
  have been able to gain access to the documents as it were written by the losers
• 48:17
  and then you get a much clearer view.
• 48:21
  I mean obviously what what the film does not deal with for example is that by
• 48:26
  '16
• 48:27
  Germany had actually won that war.
• 48:30
  Britain was six weeks away from starvation
• 48:32
  because the u boats had managed to literally,
• 48:36
  you know, create an asphyxiation in the supply lines into Britain with the convoys. That's what happened.
• 48:42
  And so you know you've got Churchill mucking about setting up the Lusitania thing in 1917 or whenever it is to get as a causative reason to get the Americans in, and yet are we talking about the Americans? I suspect not Americans,
• 48:56
  if you know what I mean.
• 48:58
  Unknown: Right.
• 48:59
  Yeah. Not Americans. Not like There were some in our country that helped and were involved in that, but they're not Americans.
• 49:06
  That's the They're
• 49:07
  the
• 49:09
  Unknown: inside the gates that Cicero talked about, that where you're clear They absolutely right. Speak your language. And you know the whole thing with with the Russians of course, know. Okay, so they cleared off in 1917
• 49:19
  because in a way that was part and parcel of all of this chess game of them setting each other up but what's actually occurring, what you're seeing on the field it seems to me is Western Christian civilizations
• 49:31
  opening shot at committing suicide.
• 49:34
  That's what you're seeing
• 49:35
  and
• 49:36
  it's been orchestrated we don't want to commit suicide but that's kind of what's happening.
• 49:41
  You can you just so I got this feeling looking at it that what a waste of all these great people and then you understand,
• 49:48
  Unknown: you know, why we are the way that we are. Let me see if I can coin a new word here ethnissicide.
• 49:55
  Unknown: Well, he just did. Think they call it genocide don't they for the gene pool but yeah, you're right,
• 50:00
  that's really it, it's specifically
• 50:02
  targeted
• 50:05
  and
• 50:06
  Unknown: it's And now that
• 50:08
  this is for the other stuff, now that we've seen this from this perspective,
• 50:14
  it even brings
• 50:15
  more importance to James Corbett's
• 50:18
  documentary that he released just recently.
• 50:22
  Oh, yes. It that adds a lot of the other side to this that isn't covered in the BBC archives.
• 50:30
  Okay? And now you know the backstory
• 50:33
  on on all this stuff, Stead and and Milner Yep. And Rhodes and and and dare I say Herbert Hoover.
• 50:41
  Unknown: Herbert Hoover. You might dare say you might dare say Lord Rothschild as well because we have to be involved in that group. Of course. You've got the same thing going on. Now, we So Alfred,
• 50:51
  Unknown: was that the one? Was he that rode on the tortoise?
• 50:55
  Because some of these pictures were in some of that Corbett stuff I've seen. The picture of him riding on the Galapagos
• 51:02
  tortoise.
• 51:03
  I'm sure that's what it was.
• 51:05
  A a Galapagos tortoise
• 51:07
  and he's riding. I think he's a big old fat guy and he's got lettuce out on a stick in front of the tortoise to make him go. And the guy goes, ain't that a pretty perfect analogy to what they're doing to us now?
• 51:21
  Yep.
• 51:22
  Lord, fat, fat ass Lord Rothschild
• 51:25
  sitting on a Galapagos
• 51:27
  tortoise
• 51:28
  with some lettuce in front of our mouths,
• 51:30
  and and it's we call them Federal Reserve notes that they're dangling out in front of you.
• 51:36
  Now the other picture that it had of this same Rothschild guy, who was a biologist,
• 51:42
  I think, was his was his general title,
• 51:46
  was they had he had a a horse and buggy team that was all zebras.
• 51:52
  Unknown: Mhmm. Yes. He did.
• 51:55
  He did. He was a big collector of of he had a zoo, a private zoo over here. I'm not knocking his zoo. Maybe his zoo was lovely.
• 52:02
  But you know it's not really a zoo that we're too interested in. He belongs in it, him and his whole bunch belong in Maybe you know maybe they view that we're in their zoo, that's the kind of mentality they got. Well they absolutely do, come on. Okay, so I'm in I'm in your zoo with your zebras. Okay.
• 52:17
  But
• 52:19
  you know, it's that thing what's that biblical thing? I'm gonna I'm gonna do it injustice but
• 52:25
  you understand the line, you'll know it, that in these times everything that's been hidden will be made known. Yep yep. And in a way, in the most graphically detailed way, this film
• 52:34
  is one chapter of that laid
• 52:36
  crystal clear in front of you in a way that you've never seen it before and I wish they had made it five hours long. I could watch that stuff for days.
• 52:45
  There's something gets filled in in your soul to me when I watched it and I felt like I was saying I've been in the presence of my mates
• 52:53
  all the time apart from which some of the there's the East Yorkshire regiment and I know when they were putting all Yorkshire in because that's what I speak like, could hear them on the thing and he was saying Peter Jackson was saying that they got the voice actors to basically they got these
• 53:08
  lip readers from the police and the guys that do lip reading and sing to actually get the language down and then they got people from the correct regions here in England to voice over depending on what regiment was actually you know the guy whichever regiment it was in. And I think early on in the film there's a couple of them walking along through a trench and the guy he's got a spade in his hand, says down here and all that and that's from the East Yorkshire Regiment and then there was another one I was watching it with my son because he knows I'm always banging on about Yorkshire and
• 53:37
  they come up and there was a big shed and they're walking up to this shed and it said East Yorkshire Regiment beer
• 53:43
  sitting there and there you go, those my lads.
• 53:46
  Unknown: Well I'm gonna tell you, know Beer, just huge, it was fantastic. I'm gonna have to differ with you a little bit in your statement
• 53:54
  that you and I are usually pretty much on point with each other.
• 53:58
  Your statement that it is a good audio track and I understand exactly what you're saying. Okay. And I agree with you to some degree
• 54:07
  But for us Americans,
• 54:09
  there was about at least a third or more of that language.
• 54:14
  The dialogue, I couldn't understand.
• 54:16
  I just didn't understand what the hell they were saying.
• 54:19
  Unknown: You're just not listening hard enough. Yeah. I guess that's what it is.
• 54:24
  It's okay. It's fine. You just watch their body language. I know I know where you're coming from. I I suppose of it, we've got so many dialects and I've heard you hear them all. I mean, it's not a big place and the
• 54:35
  accents change every 40 miles around here. Seriously, every 40 or 50 miles bang, there's something different. Know,
• 54:43
  to the Midlands is only a 100 miles, they speak totally they speak with a totally different twang,
• 54:47
  and then over to the West Of The Midlands they've got another twang, then you're into Wales, then you go down to Cornwall. There's about 14 different strong regional accents
• 54:55
  around The UK,
• 54:56
  you know, and if I took you to Newcastle seriously you wouldn't understand a word, you would not get a word like that's
• 55:03
  literally that's what they're talking like. Now is that Crystal Palace? What are they saying? I'm going I don't want to tell you but it's not good. Is Newcastle Crystal Palace?
• 55:13
  Crystal Palace is in London, okay, so they're all they'd be more just your regular sort of London accent a bit like that,
• 55:20
  They'd be a bit more like that although that's kind of more East Side, I'm not that great at these things. Newcastle is I'm trying to think of anybody from Newcastle
• 55:29
  it's difficult accent to do and hold it together but they just go why a man? And they talk like this,
• 55:35
  but I'm not that good at it so I don't want to keep doing it until I've got it right. If I get it right I'll do a whole show with you talking as a It I don't know if we're gonna book that show.
• 55:47
  It wasn't You wouldn't understand a word, would you? No. I wouldn't. And and the thing about it Then going in the West Country, they're taught like this. They taught like this, roughly, and they come over there. And that's where a few people, they talk like that, and they say, you're not from around here, are you? And and that's they talk like that. So you've got all these different accents. There's a there's a bucket load of them,
• 56:07
  and that was enough, of course, to have a fight over in the past. Well, you know, the thing was You're not from around here, are you? No. Bang. The movie as as well as the film is done.
• 56:17
  Unknown: And there this narration that's going through, and one of these segments comes through where you know the guy's saying something that you wanna hear, and I'll be damned if you can understand it. Whatever the dialect or whatever it is and you don't wanna stop it and go back and you you because you're enthralled in in in what you're seeing in the way it's developing. So, but I did notice as I was going through there, I said, hell, a third of this thing. I can't understand what the heck you're saying.
• 56:46
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I I think the film, you know, could probably be expanded out. I I'm sure, obviously, the American War Office will have their own footage as well from when the Americans arrived and everything and that that would probably be worthy of a similar effort of that I've no doubt.
• 57:00
  And I mean I've got a good German colleague who's on on this wave, he's not a German lost to the German brainwashing, he's a German fully awake and therefore very prudent with how he communicates which is wise of course, you know what it's like over there these days, it's a nuthouse really. But I've sent it to him, I'm gonna be very interested, I said look you know when you see it all you're gonna see particularly towards you know two thirds in when they're actually confronting one another and you get more footage of Germans is you're just going why are these blokes who are all from the same group, why are they all killing one another? That's really just like what's going on? There's
• 57:33
  a sort of madness, that's the madness that you see
• 57:37
  in the whole thing, a total and utter waste of life, complete waste and
• 57:43
  yet these guys you know what was one guy said, wouldn't have missed it for anything. There was a quote he said when we got off the
• 57:49
  boat and we were getting towards the battlefront he said,
• 57:53
  I knew it was gonna be a few days before we got there and he said I was desperately worried that it was gonna finish before I got there.
• 58:00
  It's gonna end. I want to get involved you know. He said we were walking down a road and we looked into a field
• 58:07
  and I heard this shell come over and this huge explosion he said and it was thrilling.
• 58:13
  Something like
• 58:14
  Great!
• 58:15
  Woah! Let's get it on! Know, so I
• 58:19
  don't know what to say about it.
• 58:21
  You can see it from a certain perspective, I guess they thought we're in for this for a penny, we're in for a pound to use an English phrase, That's it, we'll deal with it, we'll deal with it as we can and
• 58:30
  very much that's what the film's about is showing how normal people dealt with this atrocious circumstance
• 58:37
  with their bad teeth as you rightly pointed out, with poles as toilets
• 58:41
  with the most hellish going on around them.
• 58:45
  It's just
• 58:46
  Unknown: incredible. If you do anything in the dental profession you're
• 58:50
  gonna have a field day watching this thing.
• 58:54
  Unknown: Yeah. It's just incredible. I don't think dentistry had really taken off as an idea even then.
• 58:59
  Unknown: I mean, even the young guys
• 59:01
  even the young guys are missing teeth and just in terrible shape. I mean, I was kinda shocked, really.
• 59:07
  Like I said, I don't think I saw one good set of teeth in the whole hour I was watching, and we saw a lot of faces.
• 59:15
  Unknown: Yeah. It's hard to know how how they used to kiss their wives with mouths like that. I think the women had better teeth, just to let you know. I don't know why they were just so bad.
• 59:23
  I don't know what it was really. Maybe it's the arrival of cigarettes or too much beer, probably the latter. Yeah, maybe. Very noticeable in film
• 59:32
  Unknown: because a lot of them are smiling.
• 59:34
  I mean, it's not some gruesome thing necessarily,
• 59:38
  although it certainly has those parts but
• 59:40
  when it the interviews with them, they're all all of em are always got a smile. Hey, look. I'm on the camera. You know, and it comes along and that one guy and there's about 10 or fifteen, twenty guys in the you see the camera guy coming along in front of him and the guy says, hey, look. We're on the camera, mom. So,
• 59:57
  it was it's worth watching and I wouldn't spend this much time on and I'm sure Paul wouldn't be as
• 1:00:05
  descriptive and and you can hear his emotions and his voice about it and probably mine too. It's worth watching
• 1:00:12
  and for a number of different reasons and it was a spectacular
• 1:00:15
  work.
• 1:00:16
  I mean, just spectacular work in the film area.
• 1:00:20
  Unknown: It was, it was.
• 1:00:22
  Just look, we don't have to stay on this forever or anything although I'm hard pressed to think of anything else than I just swamping my head, but there's a couple of little incidents that stick out.
• 1:00:32
  One is
• 1:00:34
  where there's a little bit of what they've done is with the lip reading is that they've as I was saying they've got actors to provide
• 1:00:41
  the dialogue for when guys are talking to one and it works really well.
• 1:00:44
  There's a bit where there's an English guy, there's a German prisoner
• 1:00:49
  they're just lying down, nothing nasty or anything, there's loads of them in shot and he's got he's got this he's got this German guy's hat, this is just these little things that knock me out, he goes here right and he's pulling around and says do you want your hat back? And he's just like what? It's so yeah do you want your hat back? And he just gives him his hat back. It's little things like that they get me. You just see that the minute that the orders have fallen away the humanity is just springing back up it's like you can't the decency is there all along the line.
• 1:01:19
  There was that and then the other one is the testimony which is really in the other realm where they were talking about the mud and
• 1:01:26
  it's this about the mud and the fact that one guy was saying
• 1:01:31
  that he saw a young lad just gets sucked down into it and die and he said it did his head in basically you know because he just couldn't no one could get out to him because he was 10 yards away from a plank and if anybody had gone out that had gone down with him. It was just to be sucked down, you just think oh that is stuff like that being
• 1:01:48
  it's the rotten things you know, these things that are like a mess, it's a complete mess is war, and
• 1:01:54
  it's a bit like that thing that no
• 1:01:56
  no plan survives the first minute of contact with the enemy. You could see in that main fight that within
• 1:02:03
  the minute it started, the minute that the troops got up and went over the top, it was just a complete mess with inside thirty seconds.
• 1:02:10
  Everything that they were supposed to do they couldn't do it And they were cut to ribbons by machine gun fire, and the whole thing is just a total mess once it gets going. It is incredible.
• 1:02:20
  Unknown: Incredible.
• 1:02:21
  I'm
• 1:02:22
  just damn glad I wasn't involved in it, and I'm sorry for the people, how many millions lost their lives in that travesty
• 1:02:30
  and it is a travesty.
• 1:02:32
  Also, these guys can control the world
• 1:02:35
  and
• 1:02:36
  the way that the other way after they got the the foundations
• 1:02:40
  adjusted around, which is what these oars are for,
• 1:02:44
  the other way they did it is through this trick that we cover here of being able to put the people into a system where their property and can be not only have legal
• 1:02:54
  control over them, but also use them as collateral
• 1:02:57
  and that's what makes all this possible. That's why the message that we've got here is so, pardon me, so damned important.
• 1:03:04
  I mean, it's just important and I know you put it in front of people and it goes over their head. They don't see the significance.
• 1:03:11
  They don't understand the depth of it. They don't understand any of the perspectives,
• 1:03:16
  but it is the essence of everything that's going on is that trick they did with the fourteenth amendment in our country.
• 1:03:24
  That's what's perpetuating
• 1:03:25
  the whole damn thing today. Well, it's starting to come apart at the seams now,
• 1:03:30
  but it's perpetuated it all this time and allowed them to have the foundation politically and financially
• 1:03:37
  to pull all this crap off.
• 1:03:41
  Unknown: You're absolutely right,
• 1:03:42
  you're absolutely right, it's a major plank in their
• 1:03:46
  ring fencing of us, their containment of us and their control of us, absolutely, because it acts in a very subtle
• 1:03:54
  way, in a way that doesn't appear to be initially overtly nasty or dangerous but it sets up
• 1:04:00
  a context whereby they can keep demanding more and more and more, and you know if we look at the last century which obviously you know in many ways I suppose kicked off with that event that we've been talking about and what ran through there, it's just been a continual progress towards so called globalism
• 1:04:17
  which I am announcing is dead.
• 1:04:21
  It'll still keep expanding I think and going but I think at its very root it's dead and
• 1:04:28
  we have to build on that, really did. Nationalism is the only way to go. It is. Because
• 1:04:33
  it's nature,
• 1:04:35
  it's what nature says and of course the way it's painted and thrown back at us is oh no, when you had nations
• 1:04:42
  like England and Germany, you were always having wars,
• 1:04:45
  to which my response is those wars were orchestrated and organized by the very forces
• 1:04:50
  who were seeking to bring about globalism.
• 1:04:52
  That's why they arranged for these nations to have wars Yep. So as to lay waste to the infrastructure, the morale,
• 1:04:59
  the the civilizational
• 1:05:01
  momentum that we had built up and to wreck it because that's all they do, they wreck it and there is no globalism, it's a nonsense, globalism
• 1:05:09
  has always exist because we live in a globe, well flat earth if you're into that kind of thing but let's use globe, I don't want to go there. So
• 1:05:15
  you know that's it, it just is what it is and
• 1:05:19
  people get on best with people from their own race because they do and everybody in your own race is superior
• 1:05:26
  to anybody in any other race as it should be. I mean there's nothing wrong with that, it's great, it's really healthy,
• 1:05:32
  and that's what we you know this is where we defeat their argument because I think you know the context for so much of the news,
• 1:05:39
  for so much of this left wing
• 1:05:40
  liberal
• 1:05:41
  lunacy,
• 1:05:43
  it's lunacy because it's not grounded in actuality,
• 1:05:47
  it's grounded in a sick daydream
• 1:05:50
  that's based on false premises.
• 1:05:52
  Oh, we will be peaceful if we can all come together and tolerate one another. How about we don't do that? How about if everybody just stays at home, right, and you'll find that the idea of whether you have to or do not tolerate other people doesn't even come up, it's not even on the menu, it won't even be really much of your life and it doesn't need to be,
• 1:06:11
  and we can interact and do certain things. The whole idea of a global economy is tedious and boring, we need to basically
• 1:06:18
  in part I think you know show that globalism is naff,
• 1:06:22
  it's old fashioned, it's for it's for silly old people like
• 1:06:26
  George Soros.
• 1:06:28
  Yeah but we need to mock them, we need to turn it into a comedy act, we need to show this is what happened when dumbasses with a lot of money start thinking that they've got an idea, they haven't got any ideas at all or the ones that they've got have got no value. We don't need any of this, we don't want any of your complexity,
• 1:06:45
  we don't think it's a great vision, this is not progress,
• 1:06:48
  it's none of the words that you're using, it's the complete opposite of that, and I think we can get that we can get that point across, I think it is getting across. It's
• 1:06:56
  Unknown: getting across big time because what you're seeing is they've laid, they had to lay the basis for the global initiative
• 1:07:04
  and they did that with the Internet and with all a lot of this trade and stuff, and the and now we've got that, but we don't have to have the political side of this, and the nationalistic
• 1:07:15
  feather
• 1:07:15
  that's uprising around the world is effectively
• 1:07:19
  stopping globalism in its tracks from what I see, Paul.
• 1:07:23
  Unknown: Yep.
• 1:07:24
  Yep. And I I mean, just coming back to that film as well, what I'm gonna say sounds a bit ludicrous really, but
• 1:07:30
  I would rather die with those men then
• 1:07:34
  than be faced with the prospect of having to live
• 1:07:37
  in this ongoing multicultural
• 1:07:39
  hell,
• 1:07:40
  seriously.
• 1:07:41
  Because the one thing that they had that we don't is they had they were bound together
• 1:07:46
  in a great way, this is what kept the you know you hear about morale right,
• 1:07:51
  I mean well that's part and parcel of the great challenges that we face is that morale is a thing that occurs
• 1:07:58
  when you're stood with your fellow brother and sister
• 1:08:02
  dealing with a threat to all of you, something occurs
• 1:08:06
  and it's
• 1:08:08
  a heightened sense of connection with one another, a mutual support in the most appalling circumstances.
• 1:08:14
  In fact unfortunately
• 1:08:16
  it seems to me that it's only when the circumstances are really really bad that we rise up to become really our best and are at our best and it's quite tragic of course because when these people rise to their best and then they're still extinguished in in the mess of it all.
• 1:08:31
  But I think that's something to get back to because what we're kind of enduring at the moment is a non civilization,
• 1:08:38
  it's an uncivilization,
• 1:08:40
  there isn't a civilization here.
• 1:08:42
  You and I are carrying it in our blood and in our language
• 1:08:45
  and maintaining this flame going and trying to build it and we will, it's gonna build up, we're gonna cauterize
• 1:08:50
  the wound, we're gonna burn it down this mess that's invaded our homes, it's got to go.
• 1:08:57
  But it's wonderful that was a positive I take from this, it might seem a bit bizarre but I looked at them and I thought that camaraderie,
• 1:09:03
  that connection is available to us and this is not the way to go about recreating it of course, I'm not saying we indulge in trench warfare that would be rather foolish and thankfully unachievable,
• 1:09:13
  but you get my idea. Maybe we are we're in a kind of psychological trench warfare. Well that's
• 1:09:18
  Unknown: aren't in that what we're doing here. I mean, we're we got a little narrow trench core audience.
• 1:09:24
  There's other trenches all over the place, and we're trying to
• 1:09:29
  you know, my philosophy of this, Paul, as I've told you and you know, and we've told the audiences, just to try and do what we do the best we can that we know we're supposed to be doing and and we'll find our own level. Water always seeks its own level. We have the message that
• 1:09:46
  I don't know the percentage of people that are wanting to hear it but there's a whole lot of people that are wanting the answers and something to clear up the confusion and that's what this does, okay? Yes. So,
• 1:09:58
  it's just a matter of time and
• 1:10:00
  we'll just keep putting one foot in front of the other and try and get the technical snafu straight and try and get this fixed and that. And and if you guys you know, if if you weren't paying me the big bucks,
• 1:10:12
  I'd probably work a little harder. You know?
• 1:10:17
  Unknown: Me too. I keep stumbling over all this money in my hall. Yes. It's terrible, really. Yes. It's like oh,
• 1:10:23
  no. No. More bundles of cash in the wardrobe. What am gonna do with it? It's just outrageous, isn't We never know what to do with the vast quantities of cash that keep coming in. They're like it's like the bundles are like rats in the in the trenches.
• 1:10:36
  Unknown: Yeah. Right. They are. They are. Yeah. Well, you know, that's the nice thing about what we do and the people like us is you're driven by some emotion that's not necessarily financial.
• 1:10:46
  And I do this out of a sense of duty. And if I wasn't out here doing it, guess what? Nobody would know this message
• 1:10:53
  because nobody's ever figured it out. K?
• 1:10:57
  Unknown: No.
• 1:10:58
  Came across a nice little quote the other day about that, about money and you know, you can't serve two gods,
• 1:11:05
  you can't serve God and Mammon
• 1:11:07
  and but it was something about the ancient Greeks, they said that they had a view that a philosopher
• 1:11:13
  who took money
• 1:11:15
  was not really a philosopher at all but was just a sophist involved in sophistry and I think that's kind of part and parcel of it you know. Unfortunately
• 1:11:24
  you want to get out there on the truth trail,
• 1:11:27
  there's
• 1:11:28
  no central banks down there, they just hang around, you can forget it, it's just not it's not gonna happen. Think that but then I think higher forces provide in different ways. I still think there's things that can be done, they're never gonna really be long lasting until we get to the very root and hack it out. The thing is the part and parcel of the communication here is that that route gets more clearly defined and identified and weak points in it to hack at it are becoming clearer to more and more people. That's a good thing. That's people. A very good It's the Thoreau I think it's Thoreau that said, for every 100 people hacking at the branches of the tree of tyranny, there's one person hacking at the root.
• 1:12:07
  Unknown: And that's what I like to feel that we do here is hack at the root with not not just a machete but with a big old absolutely
• 1:12:15
  real sharp double sided axe.
• 1:12:18
  Yes.
• 1:12:19
  And I think, you know, we we've touched a lot of people. Paul, listen, this is part interesting on this technical stuff, right? You know, for the last. Number of months, I've been having these dropouts with the WiFi
• 1:12:31
  that I have to go back in, recur, bring it and it got to be where I could get through it pretty easy, but I never could get the problem solved.
• 1:12:39
  Even had quite a bit of email discourse with the WiFi
• 1:12:42
  receiver
• 1:12:43
  guy, you know? Even making me take pictures of the thing and send it and whatnot.
• 1:12:48
  Since I moved over here, I'm using the same Wi Fi dongle,
• 1:12:52
  and it hadn't dropped once. So the problem was in the router.
• 1:12:56
  Unknown: Yeah. It would have been something like that. Yeah. No. It's fine. It's it's clear right now. Things are steady. Right. They have be steady. But that's All that And they're about to improve for you well, so that's Yes. All that troubleshooting,
• 1:13:06
  Unknown: trying to find this one, thinking it's the WiFi,
• 1:13:09
  and you're dealing with either the computer or the software or the driver or the dongle, and the whole problem's in the damn router.
• 1:13:17
  Unknown: Mhmm.
• 1:13:18
  So, anyway, just some of the things that You know, you're gonna be lost, aren't you? What are gonna do when it's all technically working well? The half your shows are gonna be well to talk. Gosh. We might your technical problems anymore. I'm gonna have to cause you some grief elsewhere. Maybe we can get those dogs to attack you mid show. They might. Looking around. If I don't have a bone for them, they might.
• 1:13:39
  Unknown: So let's see. Well, anybody
• 1:13:40
  that wants to contact Chris, it had to go down to the court and see if he's on some docket. Shane tried to call in and I couldn't get back with him.
• 1:13:49
  And so it's you and me and a dog named Blue here, buddy. But if anybody wants to call us,
• 1:13:55
  it's (404) 448-1420.
• 1:14:00
  Many people know that already. It's over on the website. Probably if you're a regular, got it programmed into your phone.
• 1:14:07
  You can put in
• 1:14:08
  Skype if you've got it on any of your devices, they call them. Lump them all into this term devices.
• 1:14:15
  If you've got them on any of your devices, Skype, you can put in the search there PPN space hotline,
• 1:14:21
  call us direct on Skype.
• 1:14:23
  I don't know if they require a handshake for that or not, we shouldn't.
• 1:14:27
  It might be some setting in this whole new setup of Skype we hadn't figured out yet.
• 1:14:32
  These people really threw a monk a wrench in the monkey wrench
• 1:14:37
  with this
• 1:14:38
  in a number of areas of the way that it, okay, Patrick, I'll get, I'll call you right back here. Let me talk. But the way they threw a monkey wrench making everybody do this the way they are.
• 1:14:50
  Yep.
• 1:14:51
  Let me see if I can add Patrick back in. I think this. Okay. This process works.
• 1:14:57
  One ringy dingy, two ringy dingy. He'll see if he pops in. I think he just joined us. Is that you, Patrick?
• 1:15:03
  Yeah, I'm in. Yeah. There you go. Sound good too, man. How you doing? Hello, Patrick.
• 1:15:09
  Unknown: Hey. Hey, fellas. Doing okay. Just
• 1:15:12
  sitting around, eating my vitamins, reading your book, listening.
• 1:15:15
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:15:16
  I gotta get you this movie, Patrick. You need to see this movie, man.
• 1:15:21
  What movie is that? The one we've been talking about for the last hour.
• 1:15:26
  Unknown: So many in the last few weeks. I forget that the one was called Duties or not Duties.
• 1:15:32
  What was the one? It was a one word deal.
• 1:15:34
  Unknown: Uh-oh. I can't capture it right now. My mind's in this book. Well, the the vice is maybe the the one that we're talking about here is called They Shall Not Die
• 1:15:45
  and it's an. Well, they shall not grow old. Grow old, excuse me. And it's a fabulous movie with the colorized worldwide World War one stuff from the British archives. It's quite impressive.
• 1:15:59
  Unknown: Got
• 1:16:00
  you. Got you. I let me grab this paper and pen. Let me write that down. I'll forget it. No. I'll send it to you in an email. I'll
• 1:16:07
  send you the link in the email. Okay.
• 1:16:11
  Unknown: I got you. Got you. So anything Over there. Over there. Go ahead. No. I was just gonna say if there's anything you call in with anything on your mind or any questions you said you were into the book.
• 1:16:22
  Unknown: Well,
• 1:16:24
  the
• 1:16:25
  what you're talking about earlier, you know, I spoke to when closing the show on that paragraph on page one thirty eight, you know, it really struck home with me.
• 1:16:32
  And it's just just really you talking there, but,
• 1:16:36
  talks of enough people catch on, this thing will go away. You know? The the paragraph says at the bottom of the page,
• 1:16:42
  this is fraud. This is treason. If enough Americans will learn the information, exercise their god given birthright,
• 1:16:48
  this con game can be stopped. That is
• 1:16:51
  if you want it and to have a political or patriotic will to take the action and make it happen. The entire process starts with you.
• 1:17:01
  So, you know, that that makes you think when you're learning this stuff and and and running here, there, and everywhere to
• 1:17:08
  keep up this, rat race I'm in and realizing I can get off of it,
• 1:17:13
  come out of her. And what's really important is it is it my peace of mind
• 1:17:18
  with my creator and and knowing what I'm what I'm worth and what I've lost
• 1:17:23
  and where I need to get back to
• 1:17:25
  and, let go of all this stuff. You know? Yep.
• 1:17:29
  This this is gonna set the heart and soul free, I think. And
• 1:17:33
  Unknown: It does. You know, why why the three That's I and I've been through it for a number of years here and not really knowing what I was going through. Having to look back and analyze it. And that's why I say to the audience that what this is is a self empowerment program.
• 1:17:50
  And if you start down the path and you start doing the things that you know you need to do, you will become
• 1:17:57
  re empowered. They've
• 1:17:59
  stolen all of our power at birth.
• 1:18:02
  They've intimidated us into a corner with it our entire lives
• 1:18:07
  and all of a sudden, you got a way to get it back. It's you're gonna have to do a little work. You're gonna have to have balls at some of those early stages to take the step, and it's gonna be very counter to what you've always been programmed into.
• 1:18:20
  But it works.
• 1:18:21
  They do what you want them to do and it empowers you in the process. It's a wonderful process, man.
• 1:18:29
  Unknown: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Page 76 is broke away from the book. I just hold it in my hand. It's not mainly the,
• 1:18:36
  you know, legal definitions you go down through there. I try to read them every every Wednesday and then hear a little, there a little, and it it's slowly growing in me.
• 1:18:44
  You know, when I got involved in masonry when I was young, dad and granddad rent, and, of course, I got out of it after I figured out not to take an oath of what was going on and everything. And,
• 1:18:53
  but, you know, over a three month period of time, I'd sit down for that old pharmacy, old Jew pharmacy, you know, through the doing that catechetical, you would get it down.
• 1:19:00
  And you would amaze yourself that as long as you did repetition,
• 1:19:04
  all of a sudden, it was etched in your mind.
• 1:19:07
  And, I couldn't do it today, but I know some of the some of the language and
• 1:19:12
  see all the signs and steps. Of course, I come out of that, but,
• 1:19:16
  Yahweh dragged me out of it while he wakes me up. He he wakes me up a lot of times when I'm just walking through the deal,
• 1:19:23
  and it blows my mind that he's guided me away from major bland minds that I was stepping all around and almost, you know, in the in life whether it's marriage and remarriage to come to the knowledge of the truth or just the iniquity or sin that that, you know, you continue to do, and you try to clean the gal out of you and, overcome your
• 1:19:44
  your, flesh, I guess. But,
• 1:19:47
  it's it's a process you go through. And, you know, no one can ascend unless they've descended, and I believe we truly were.
• 1:19:54
  He knew us before the foundation of the Earth as Adam
• 1:19:58
  and and who we are and we're a unique people. I have to agree.
• 1:20:03
  Unknown: I'm trying to add Katya is wanting to join us here and and she called in and I'm trying to figure out how to add her into the call here. So,
• 1:20:12
  I can't.
• 1:20:14
  But I tell you what, this is so screwy, Paul. I can't find where we're all on now.
• 1:20:20
  No?
• 1:20:22
  No. Usually, it's at the top on the left where the whole conversation's
• 1:20:26
  going on,
• 1:20:27
  and and it's not there where I can add people in.
• 1:20:31
  I tell you. Alright. Okay. Wonderful.
• 1:20:34
  Unknown: Wonderful. I I I don't know about the vagaries of this. Ever since they've improved it, it's got it's really been improved, hasn't it? They really have improved it. So I I don't know. Yeah. Mean, okay, I'm seeing two phone numbers up there at the moment. Yes. My my myself and Patrick, see? I guess. Don't know. Can't find the master conversation to add people into it.
• 1:20:57
  Unknown: Oh, these people just absolutely.
• 1:20:59
  Okay, there it is. Alright. Let's see. Now, I think we can do this. Just sorry
• 1:21:05
  folks. It's it's
• 1:21:07
  that learning experience
• 1:21:08
  stuff.
• 1:21:09
  Let's see here. I think I can add
• 1:21:14
  the lovely Senora
• 1:21:15
  in this method here. Let's see if we can get her in there. Patrick, your connection sounds real good today, by the way. Okay. I think she's joined us here. Katya, I believe you know Paul now, and and I'll introduce you to Patrick. How you doing out there?
• 1:21:31
  Unknown: Hi. Success.
• 1:21:33
  Thanks for linking me up. Hi, Patrick. Hi, Paul. Hi, Kat. Good
• 1:21:39
  Unknown: afternoon. Good
• 1:21:41
  Unknown: evening.
• 1:21:42
  And actually, it's morning here, evening there maybe, and
• 1:21:46
  on planet Mars, who knows? But
• 1:21:49
  I'm intrigued
• 1:21:51
  this morning with your whole conversation and tying
• 1:21:55
  together
• 1:21:56
  this lust for freedom that we have with Roger's program
• 1:22:00
  and
• 1:22:02
  counter posing that to what you said about the movie,
• 1:22:06
  they shall not grow old and how they just did as they were told, go to war, save England,
• 1:22:13
  save the queen, save the world, and they trounced
• 1:22:17
  off to the trenches gleefully and jolly to
• 1:22:21
  to do just that and
• 1:22:24
  and to fill their bellies.
• 1:22:26
  And
• 1:22:27
  I I want to believe that
• 1:22:30
  man's
• 1:22:31
  lust for freedom will save us
• 1:22:34
  from this
• 1:22:35
  seemingly never ending
• 1:22:37
  cycle
• 1:22:38
  of self slaughter and brother wars
• 1:22:43
  going back to the civil war and the the civil war in The US
• 1:22:47
  and World War one and two and Korea
• 1:22:50
  and Vietnam. And, you know, my generation was Vietnam.
• 1:22:54
  I'm a I'm a MIA daughter from Vietnam.
• 1:22:58
  And
• 1:22:59
  I get so angry when they continually
• 1:23:02
  repeat that Vietnam was a mistake.
• 1:23:06
  And and I have to reeducate people. There's no mistake about this. This is all planned and it's part of the
• 1:23:12
  genocidal program and the globalist
• 1:23:15
  scheme of things. Would you agree? Yep.
• 1:23:19
  Unknown: 100%. Yes, I would agree.
• 1:23:22
  Unknown: And then
• 1:23:23
  all my generation
• 1:23:26
  says, never again. Never again.
• 1:23:29
  And then they send their sons and daughters off to Iraq. No. We don't say And Afghanistan
• 1:23:34
  Unknown: and That's that's Syria, here we are. That's that other ethnic group that says never again. We need to start saying it and meaning it.
• 1:23:43
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. It was both those wars were over the poppy plant. That's for sure. French were in there first trying to keep it under control
• 1:23:51
  Unknown: among other places. That phrase phrase as well, never again that the other group, shouldn't it be? It never happened. Yes. Again. It should be that. And that's why you see the dialectical
• 1:24:01
  Unknown: nature of this? Now, that's against us. Now, we can take that exact phrase never again and and enslaving a whole world
• 1:24:10
  in this little method of yours, never again.
• 1:24:14
  And ours has teeth. Theirs is false.
• 1:24:22
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:24:23
  Unknown: Never again. And that's part of my drive to try and get this message out as far and as wide as possible and touch as many people as we can with it so that we can legitimately say never again in one united voice with people that understand exactly what the hell has happened.
• 1:24:41
  Because, you know, I've seen pictures of the symphony orchestras playing over there in Auschwitz.
• 1:24:46
  I've seen pictures of the swimming pool. I got a
• 1:24:49
  a document here, a publication
• 1:24:51
  from Barnes Review, which has pictures of the money that they used internally in those camps.
• 1:24:58
  The script. They had a script in there, same way we got a script called Federal Reserve Note.
• 1:25:05
  I've seen pictures of the soccer games where the guards played against the inmates over there.
• 1:25:11
  There's pictures of that in this publication.
• 1:25:15
  Unknown: I know.
• 1:25:16
  The football match is unbelievable, the footage of the football match, this is really nice.
• 1:25:21
  Unknown: But according to the according to the official report they're actually playing a football match right next to the gas chambers. Oh yeah right. How's that work? Well, as I said, never again. Any Never again. We're gonna we're gonna make damn sure you don't enslave us ever ever again, you slaving
• 1:25:37
  bastards.
• 1:25:39
  This is their ethnicity.
• 1:25:40
  This is their vocation throughout history,
• 1:25:43
  this isn't anything I'm pulling out of my sphincter muscle, this is historical fact.
• 1:25:52
  Unknown: You know the challenge of course is is I'm not gonna say anything new here, but the challenge and aspect of the challenge of course is to get sufficient numbers on this side
• 1:26:01
  and in the process of getting those numbers is I believe is to keep your powder dry. We've got to keep our powder dry
• 1:26:08
  until we don't have to worry about keeping our powder dry.
• 1:26:12
  So it's getting through to people but it's very I think I might have said here you know there's someone I talked to on a regular I've had a sort of interaction with a normal person, okay, and I've probably addressed this aspect of history
• 1:26:24
  maybe three or four times
• 1:26:26
  and I make a similar sort of series of very simple factual observations which gets a nod. The problem is every time I come back to the conversation again,
• 1:26:35
  say five or six weeks later,
• 1:26:37
  that guy's understanding is exactly at the same point it was as if I'd never spoken to him. I'm going hang on we covered this last time he goes no that can't be right I'm going I'm gonna start, I can't do this anymore you know can you remember what we discussed?
• 1:26:51
  But actually it's not they can't remember it, it's that the programming is so strong with
• 1:26:57
  regards to the established narrative that it's impossible it's very very difficult for people to on a pragmatic basis break out of it. Know everybody can,
• 1:27:06
  Unknown: the question we've got is we're kind of looking at our stopwatches going yeah when? You know like now would be a good time, why not now? Why not do it immediately so that we can crack on with this you know? It doesn't know That's why that Old Testament saying and I don't know the book or the verse but it says, because they have not a love of the truth, I will send them strong delusion. They will believe a lie. Those people, that guy you're talking about believes the lie and there's nothing you can do except plant the seed with him like you've been doing and walk away and hope it germinates. Pray. It's like the vicar, the kid, 16 year old kid in the film. He says, I went up to the vicar and told him I was in the army and he said, how old are you, son? He said, 16.
• 1:27:48
  He said, I'll pray for you.
• 1:27:53
  Unknown: I'll pray for you.
• 1:27:56
  Yeah.
• 1:27:59
  Unknown: Hey, dude. By the way got a question here. Go ahead. Got a question, Roger. You you was the
• 1:28:05
  murder by injection. Can you explain that to me in a nutshell with what he was covering there and mulling? The only book that's been written on the history of the AMA.
• 1:28:16
  It's got American what? American Medical And
• 1:28:22
  Unknown: boy, that's a that is a good book.
• 1:28:24
  You can go over to Jim Ram's do it your your self help site Sure. And download it. I I sent it to him a while back. He's got it up there for download.
• 1:28:33
  You can if you don't mind reading books on a computer.
• 1:28:36
  Very
• 1:28:37
  any of Eustace Mullins' work. And you know I reiterate because we bring Eustace up a bit around here. I did have the pleasure of meeting him personally a number of different times,
• 1:28:46
  hearing him talk on these, I think one of em was the murder injection tour
• 1:28:51
  there in Atlanta where I saw him and I've never seen one thing he ever wrote
• 1:28:57
  or heard of one thing he ever stated in his public appearances
• 1:29:01
  to be rebutted
• 1:29:03
  as incorrect.
• 1:29:05
  Never. Not one.
• 1:29:08
  Unknown: No. He's a very he was a very steady fellow.
• 1:29:12
  Wonderful guy.
• 1:29:13
  Unknown: Was really a charming talk about attitude
• 1:29:17
  attitude.
• 1:29:18
  I mean, he'd get up there and talk about how many times they tried to kill him,
• 1:29:23
  burning the hotel in, down he was in, and all these different ways they tried to kill him, and he just had the greatest attitude about it, you know?
• 1:29:34
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:29:39
  Unknown: He was a he a real piece of work, that guy. It's worth reading, Patrick. Murder by injection. I'm sure Katya would probably
• 1:29:47
  agree with that.
• 1:29:50
  Unknown: Totally. I have to get in there. I know.
• 1:29:52
  Unknown: Yep.
• 1:29:54
  Unknown: Hey,
• 1:29:56
  Unknown: Katja. My my distilled water machine is due to arrive today. Okay? Today. I woke up thinking about your distilled water machine. Good, Patrick. Because Katja's been Katja's been in touch with me since last Wednesday. Okay, and so I've been on the receiving end of a full pelt of her energy which has been fantastic,
• 1:30:16
  absolutely brilliant.
• 1:30:17
  So I've had all these little exchanges and she's being very gentle with me as she
• 1:30:21
  slowly thrashes my mind into shape with regards to health, so it's been great. I
• 1:30:28
  Unknown: wanted to personally welcome you to the Catcha fan club that's developing around her work. Oh it's all ticking off.
• 1:30:37
  Unknown: Well,
• 1:30:38
  Patrick,
• 1:30:39
  you wanna join the fan club? Because I got a thrashing for you.
• 1:30:43
  Alright. Are you
• 1:30:45
  I liked your well, when you came on, you said you were drinking coffee and taking your vitamins, I think.
• 1:30:52
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. I I'm on that longevity stuff. It it
• 1:30:57
  it's a game changer. It is. Okay.
• 1:31:01
  Unknown: The reason I mentioned it is that word vitamin
• 1:31:04
  because they have us all programmed to take our vitamins. It started in the 50s with our one a day vitamins, vitamins.
• 1:31:10
  And
• 1:31:12
  key to our health is minerals. Yep. Vitamins are just vitamins because they vitalize the minerals. But if you don't take the minerals, they have nothing to vitalize. Yep. So
• 1:31:23
  everybody
• 1:31:23
  says, gotta take my vitamins. I say, no. You're minerals. Yep. We have a fishing tackle
• 1:31:30
  box in our drawer in the kitchen, and it's filled with all these different minerals
• 1:31:37
  that we take at mealtimes that are specifically
• 1:31:42
  targeted for our individual chemistries here. I did this with my children growing up too. So everybody has different minerals. Some are in common that we all need, but but depending on our body chemistries, they're different for individuals.
• 1:31:55
  And
• 1:31:56
  when we sit down to a meal, my husband inevitably says, oh, I have to get my vitamins.
• 1:32:02
  And I say,
• 1:32:04
  your minerals.
• 1:32:05
  And we do this day after day, year after year, and he still has to jump up. I have to get my vitamins.
• 1:32:11
  Your minerals, dear.
• 1:32:13
  Unknown: I just So kinda wanna I like the sound of your husband. He's nice. He's good. I like him.
• 1:32:20
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:32:21
  He holds his own, which isn't easy with a girl like me. Yep.
• 1:32:26
  Unknown: I want you to get I agree with you. That's a good way to call it. Yeah. That's you know, I use it. A lot of people call them kids. I call them children. You know? I was corrected. So I guess I need to start calling them minerals, but
• 1:32:37
  Unknown: the mistake I make. I want you to Are our children goats?
• 1:32:40
  Want you to. Calling our children goats. Right. Exactly. I want you to get into a little bit on the distilled water thing but Doug
• 1:32:47
  joined us here. That was the noises that were going on. Some of them anyway and I'd never like to ignore mister Doug when he calls in. Doug, how you doing, buddy, up in Arkansas today?
• 1:32:59
  Unknown: I'm doing well and fine and enjoying the show and that all your
• 1:33:06
  guests there and Paul,
• 1:33:09
  etcetera.
• 1:33:10
  Unknown: Good.
• 1:33:11
  We're glad to have you along, Doug, as always.
• 1:33:13
  What
• 1:33:15
  Unknown: I was gonna mention was when you spoke about the best book you ever heard, I've not read Murder by Injection, but
• 1:33:23
  back in the early seventies,
• 1:33:25
  I did get my hands on a book.
• 1:33:29
  I don't know if it's still available,
• 1:33:32
  and I don't I have it somewhere
• 1:33:34
  probably stored away,
• 1:33:38
  but it's called sugar
• 1:33:40
  blues
• 1:33:42
  and
• 1:33:45
  sorrow
• 1:33:47
  history of the AMA.
• 1:33:51
  And so,
• 1:33:53
  like I say, I can't compare it to murder by injection,
• 1:33:57
  but it goes way back in history to the Roman Catholic church,
• 1:34:02
  etcetera.
• 1:34:03
  And, so I just wanted to add that, if you could if anybody can is that book still available?
• 1:34:11
  It's an excellent
• 1:34:13
  historical
• 1:34:14
  documentation.
• 1:34:15
  Unknown: The title rings a title rings a bell with me a little bit. Sugar Blues
• 1:34:21
  Unknown: or Blue? Singular It is correct.
• 1:34:24
  Unknown: Is available on Amazon, and it's a superb read and an absolute must in our sugar addicted society today.
• 1:34:34
  Unknown: Okay. Well, what I found interesting about it was the history of the AMA.
• 1:34:40
  Yes. Not just about sugar, but, actually,
• 1:34:45
  it go well, it goes into,
• 1:34:49
  when
• 1:34:50
  basically,
• 1:34:52
  you know, it's been
• 1:34:54
  I slept last night, so it's been a few decades.
• 1:34:58
  But my recollection,
• 1:35:01
  tells me that,
• 1:35:03
  basically, where this began
• 1:35:06
  with the Roman Catholic church was
• 1:35:09
  them getting rid of
• 1:35:14
  Unknown: Well, And so, anyway, that's all about that. Oh, it was clipping a little on my end. Getting rid of what, Doug? The Roman Catholic church getting rid of what?
• 1:35:26
  Unknown: Holistic practitioners.
• 1:35:28
  Unknown: Well, let me tell you how they were done, how that happened according to Eustis
• 1:35:33
  is after they started taking control and getting organized to take over this huge part of the economy,
• 1:35:40
  they in those days, we had the bludgeoning or the early parts
• 1:35:45
  of the new type of medicine and you had the holistic and you had the allopathic is the word I'm looking for and what they did was got a guy named Flexstein.
• 1:35:56
  Is that right, Katya? Wouldn't it wrote a memo called the Flexstein memo
• 1:36:01
  and after that. I think so. After that circulated,
• 1:36:05
  all there was something like 104
• 1:36:07
  holistic medical colleges in the country and after that thing circulated, there were four or none.
• 1:36:17
  Unknown: Well, you know, Benjamin Rush, Doctor Benjamin Rush
• 1:36:22
  proposed
• 1:36:23
  an amendment
• 1:36:25
  or
• 1:36:25
  an article or
• 1:36:28
  to include as the the
• 1:36:31
  10
• 1:36:32
  what's the word I'm looking for? The bill of rights,
• 1:36:36
  the freedom of
• 1:36:38
  practice
• 1:36:39
  in in medical care. And
• 1:36:43
  he said within two hundred years,
• 1:36:45
  the
• 1:36:47
  usual suspects will have totally
• 1:36:50
  wiped out all alternatives
• 1:36:53
  if we don't put this in the constitution and it was not included.
• 1:36:58
  However, there's a proposal
• 1:37:01
  from Benjamin Rush amendment that would do just that.
• 1:37:05
  That's something my husband works on. In fact, he was the one who helped write it with Jack Phillips.
• 1:37:11
  And it's presented in his book called Suppressed Medical Science.
• 1:37:16
  And
• 1:37:17
  that's what we need today if we're going to get out from under
• 1:37:21
  Unknown: this Well, you know, the Bill of Rights tyranny. The Bill of Rights are very interesting. I read a little book on them one time. Wasn't very long because I was with somebody who was at a doctor's appointment, and I I read a whole bunch of it while I was waiting for him to get out of there. But after the constitution was written, there was a cry
• 1:37:40
  that it didn't cover enough ground and that this was missing, and so a call went out to the states to
• 1:37:47
  basically
• 1:37:48
  start giving their suggestions for this bill of rights. Do you know how many they had, Katya, to whittle down to 10?
• 1:37:56
  Tell me. 170. 170
• 1:37:59
  something.
• 1:38:01
  Yep.
• 1:38:02
  And so they got back those responses from the states, and they whittled it down to 10, and it's too bad that doctor Rush's
• 1:38:10
  got whittled out.
• 1:38:14
  Unknown: Totally because we're in a world of mess now, aren't we?
• 1:38:18
  But I did hear in the State of the Union last night, not that I paid a lot of attention or listened to it all, I did hear
• 1:38:27
  Trump
• 1:38:27
  say something
• 1:38:29
  about
• 1:38:30
  right
• 1:38:31
  to
• 1:38:32
  act or choose or what you remember his phrase? And it had to do with oh, alternative. Right to alter
• 1:38:41
  some some comment like that. And so I'm wondering, I haven't found
• 1:38:46
  that yet, what it's all about, but it sounded like he's talking a right to act
• 1:38:51
  alternative medicine.
• 1:38:53
  Unknown: I think they're gonna he's really attacking Obamacare big time as much as he can. They've got it a little bit entrenched.
• 1:39:00
  It's on real shaky legal footing, though, right now
• 1:39:03
  because Yeah. One of the pillars we are Brent went into it one day. There were three pillars or I watched it on this video. Three pillars of Obamacare.
• 1:39:13
  Press. Yeah, press 1 for and
• 1:39:17
  three pillars of Obamacare in this ruling in Texas recently
• 1:39:21
  took the main pillar out from under it that Roberts had relied on in his Supreme Court decision.
• 1:39:29
  K? So For the mandate? Yes. I believe. It's so complex, and I don't have anything to do with it being out of the country, So, I don't keep up on as much as I was personally involved,
• 1:39:40
  you know, but but I think we got some changes coming to try and get the insurance companies out of the medical health field which is really what has happened. They've taken it over.
• 1:39:52
  Unknown: Yeah. You read a modern day book,
• 1:39:55
  by Wallet. It's called Dead Doctors Don't Lie. It'll put it'll it puts them out to bay about who they are and what they are. And, of course,
• 1:40:02
  the sorcery, you know, Farmucco, that's all that is is demons and, full of it. And it's just a big cash register. All they wanna do is prescribe, cut, and burn, and you're just another unit like me selling a car. And, oh, well, if you die here, where's the next one? You know, can we cash in on this one?
• 1:40:18
  Unknown: It's like the ultimate protection racket. It is. The Janda Janda is all I wasn't ill. I wasn't ill. Well, you will be because we're around now. You better take the you better take the preventative medicine. You never know when you're gonna get ill, particularly when doctors show from Big Pharma. I had some news through just the other day in an email because I get CBD oil, know I have to get it for my wife and stuff,
• 1:40:40
  and there's all sorts of umming and ahhing now over here, it's only been legalized for a little while
• 1:40:46
  and they're not gonna make it illegal but they're gonna make it there's a possibility that you won't be able to buy it for eighteen months while they reclassify it. Why?
• 1:40:56
  Oh I wouldn't it probably because it's been quite effective in dealing with a lot of things. I mean the thing that I've noticed
• 1:41:02
  people just sent me videos it doesn't it doesn't pertain here, it's not a problem we have here but people with Parkinson's obviously you know are almost like shaking themselves to death. In many cases the CBD oil is having the most phenomenal results you know like within a matter of five to ten minutes they're completely chilled and relaxed and not having to go through all the exhausting process of having their bones shaken to bits.
• 1:41:23
  It's a strange one, it's a well it's not really it's just this protection racket, it's got out of hand,
• 1:41:29
  it's got massively out of hand and who are we to believe?
• 1:41:32
  Who are we to believe? They want us to believe them and they don't have a good track record when it comes to that kind of stuff. Come out of her my
• 1:41:39
  Unknown: people, you can come out of her in all these different ways, you don't have to participate in her plagues and her fornication, okay?
• 1:41:46
  It it is a choice and you do have a choice
• 1:41:49
  but you're the one that's gotta ascertain it and make it and exercise it.
• 1:41:55
  What else? I had something on the tip of my tongue a second ago I wanted to say.
• 1:42:00
  Katya, why don't you hear this? I think,
• 1:42:02
  Unknown: Roger, the problem is the the education they have us all
• 1:42:07
  believing that one takes a pill or or gets sliced up and and that's a cure. And and they don't realize that the only healer is God. God made your body to cure itself. It wants to cure itself. It does cure itself.
• 1:42:21
  Just like Jim Ramsay every day and he's absolutely spot on.
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  And
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  if people could internalize
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  the
• 1:42:29
  fact
• 1:42:30
  that there is nothing
• 1:42:32
  a doctor
• 1:42:33
  can give you,
• 1:42:35
  no pharmaceutical
• 1:42:37
  a doctor can give you that won't cause you harm,
• 1:42:41
  at least should give people
• 1:42:44
  a moment to pause
• 1:42:45
  Unknown: and and consider another decision. You said the education and I let me inject
• 1:42:52
  the conditioning
• 1:42:54
  because it's not education,
• 1:42:56
  it's conditioning,
• 1:42:58
  and they condition
• 1:43:00
  you over into those thought processes,
• 1:43:03
  and it's damn hard just like you could go in and make Pavlov's
• 1:43:07
  dog stop salivating when they rang the bell.
• 1:43:14
  Yep.
• 1:43:16
  Unknown: What a creature of habit.
• 1:43:18
  Unknown: What a pickle. Yep. So, that's why it goes back to that Bible verse and you know, Paul's, I'm going to my friend and I keep telling him and he doesn't forget six months later, I talked to him same stuff. He ain't supposed to know.
• 1:43:32
  You can't concentrate on that and you can't make that your goal. Your goal is gotta be to spread the seed along as many people as you can and let it germinate
• 1:43:42
  and pray for those people that it germinates with them because a lot of em it ain't going to germinate with. I'm here telling you from historical
• 1:43:50
  personal experience.
• 1:43:53
  Unknown: You're on the right path. Yeah said to preach it in season, out of season where they hear, they forbear.
• 1:43:59
  Unknown: It'll be held. You'll be held accountable if you don't let the truth go. But if you hold it back, then he'll require their blood at your hand. Well, that's one of the main things I like about what we do and personally what I do is I don't have any guilt, you know? Hey, you were told.
• 1:44:15
  Alright?
• 1:44:16
  Unknown: Yep.
• 1:44:17
  Unknown: Yep. That's that's what you're supposed to do. Be a watchman on the wall. And people say, well, you you're obsessed with all this stuff. I am obsessed with it.
• 1:44:26
  I'm obsessed with freedom. Good. And mine and I'd like to be obsessed with yours. If you'll open up your mind a little bit, remember, the mine's like a parachute. It only works when the damn thing's open.
• 1:44:42
  Unknown: What an analogy.
• 1:44:44
  Unknown: I'm
• 1:44:45
  not going skydiving though if that's what you're trying to get out of. There's no way I'm doing that. Okay? Did I misunderstand what you said or something? There's no way I'm doing that. Okay? I better open up more than your mind. That's not on that's not on your bucket list, Paul?
• 1:44:59
  No. Look, anything to do with heights, count me out. I I know where I'm happy. I like it down here. This is good. I was born down here. Right? I was right on the ground. I've been here most of the time. It's great. You start mucking around up there. We have people jumping out of things. I have no idea what they're doing. It's just terrible. Well the last time I tried There's a guy, there's a local guy here, I'll be seeing him tomorrow night okay. His son is an accountant, he's in his mid thirties, his son's an accountant and on his books he acts as an accountant for some of these YouTube guys that are stars. Biggest YouTube guy in the world,
• 1:45:31
  he doesn't have this guy, is this guy called PewDiePie. Yeah, sure. And he works 12 miles away from me, it's ridiculous right? This is his studio, it's 12 miles down the road here and
• 1:45:41
  all that kind of stuff. This guy is the guy with 78,000,000
• 1:45:44
  followers, 78,000,000
• 1:45:46
  on YouTube, you get him to say a few words about this bang it'll break you right? So that's the power of having the crowd you know even though it's about video games. But you know these other guys that go out
• 1:45:56
  and do the climbing? They just go and climb cranes in Abu Dhabi without any safety equipment, you've seen this kind of madness? Yes. You must have, you haven't? Yeah. My son
• 1:46:05
  takes great pleasure in putting it on the TV and say dad look at this and before I can catch it I'm having to watch this stuff and I just I can't watch it. It just drives me nuts. I I can't bite it. Anyway this guy the guy the guy whose son is the accountant, he's got a couple of these free climbers
• 1:46:22
  on his books and they say to him we're going up to a construction site in East Side Of London or wherever it is filming the next day, so they have to write a contract out and there's a death clause in it because you know they may not come back so it's all worked out what happens if he dies on the job you know, it's mad!
• 1:46:39
  But I just thought I'd let you know. Anyway I'm not into heights, I'm not into parachutes, I never saw the point in that
• 1:46:46
  but give me some give me some wings, I'd probably be okay, I don't mind a pair of wings. Always want a jetpack Roger, give me a jetpack, I'm away but not I'm not parachuting. I'm gonna offer you for a a set of four wheels and ask you to drive 12 kilometers down the road and extend a a helping hand to cutie pie.
• 1:47:08
  Yeah. He probably wants I mean, look. I'm an old fart. You've got to remember that. Incomprised of these people, they're very, very young. You know? And I'm now tremendously
• 1:47:15
  old and seasoned, as we say. So it's ridiculous. You know? You're just there's a big gap. And
• 1:47:21
  I don't even like video games. You know? I didn't even like them when they even when I was young, I didn't like them. I didn't know what's the point of all this twiddling around. I don't get it, but my
• 1:47:29
  hey, ho. There you go.
• 1:47:31
  It's a different world now. You know?
• 1:47:34
  Unknown: I'm like you, Paul. Checked into I didn't get into these video games either. Go ahead, Patrick.
• 1:47:40
  Unknown: I checked into skydiving,
• 1:47:42
  met a guy in the, checkout. He he had his little truck, military looking. He taught he said, my you're gonna have to lose some weight. I said, what do you mean? He said, I can't you gotta be two twenty five or less.
• 1:47:53
  And, I said, well, I guess I got something to look forward to, don't I?
• 1:47:58
  Well I'm I'm about six one and two sixty five. So Yikes. It should be two twenty five, but,
• 1:48:04
  Unknown: you know, it's it it is what it is. I have gotten lazy. Well, sugar, Patrick. Lay off the sugar. Yeah. Well, Paul. You're right. You're right. Unlike you, that's always has been on my bucket list. I don't know about I guess I would like to free fall a little bit. I'd have to go through some mental
• 1:48:22
  foundational
• 1:48:23
  exercises.
• 1:48:24
  Unknown: Record a few shows before you go off and do the But
• 1:48:28
  Unknown: you know, don't worry, so practical about it, but these things sometimes don't work out, Roger. Well, since I since the last time I tried to fly out the 2nd Floor last July, I don't know that I'll be doing that.
• 1:48:40
  Unknown: Yeah. Your first attempt didn't turn out. So it didn't. No. Right. So come on.
• 1:48:46
  Unknown: But I will saying the south down here, how'd that work out for you? It didn't work out real well.
• 1:48:52
  I I have always wanted to, and this wouldn't be too restrictive,
• 1:48:57
  I've always wanted to fly a glider.
• 1:49:00
  Unknown: Yeah,
• 1:49:02
  I think I could do that, I could do that at least this you see the thing about that plunging thing right, is this I just think gravity is a lot stronger, it's the plunging I don't like, it's this whole thing about plunging,
• 1:49:12
  you just go well what am I supposed to do if the parachute does not open,
• 1:49:17
  what options have I got left? Want me to sing a song? And then I mean, it's just it's not you know, there's nothing good. Like, now if you said get into a car and drive quickly at 200 mile an hour, I could do that because psychologically, I think, well, if something goes pear shaped with the whole thing, at least I got a hold of the steering wheel and the and the brakes, hopefully, and I might be able to do something. But the plunging, I go, oh, well, I'm just plunging here. There's nothing I can do. There's no other options.
• 1:49:43
  You can't even say I've tried a and I've tried b because there's no a to try.
• 1:49:47
  Unknown: There's nothing to do. It's like, oh. Pray pray is a good one. Now, you know, but it's There's
• 1:49:53
  been some people that have gone through that and their chute didn't open and they landed from tremendous heights, and it didn't kill them.
• 1:50:00
  They may never have ever been Not many.
• 1:50:03
  Unknown: Probably not. They are the exception that proves the rule. Are you an advert are you you're not a salesman for this, are you? This is not going good. No. No. I'm a commentator.
• 1:50:12
  Unknown: I'm strictly a color analyst here.
• 1:50:16
  Unknown: Oh, boy. Yeah. They always wanna tell you the good side. Don't worry. You're plunging at 10,000 feet, but you might come out of it. Okay. Oh, yeah. Okay. Sure. I'm hopeful.
• 1:50:26
  Unknown: Well, there's a couple of people Never again. As hard as it is to believe,
• 1:50:31
  there's a couple of people that have lived through that experience.
• 1:50:34
  Brent was talking about one on one of these Friday shows here a while back, and it's amazing that people could walk away from that. But occasionally
• 1:50:43
  Unknown: You know, but I mean, there is so talk about the people that didn't come through it, was there? And the people that didn't come through it, what's that story? Oh, this guy jumps out of a plane, and he hits the earth at a 140 mile an hour, and he's jammed. There's just no story there. That's most of the stories, Roger. See, you're saying All the stories are like the one I'm telling, not the one you're telling. You're saying I'm plunging, what do I do? Well, you can pray You
• 1:51:06
  Unknown: can pray.
• 1:51:08
  Get you one of those ones that makes it
• 1:51:14
  Unknown: You know? The shit. The logical guy kinda thinking now that we've been given the signals in the in the first place, and it's a bit like you've said this before. You know, making a it's only a mistake if you don't learn from it. Right? So, you know, you you it's really simple.
• 1:51:29
  I just think, hey. I'm doing it again. This is bad. This is really silly. So it's not for me. I just don't do well with heights. The last I I went to the we were in New York in 1997,
• 1:51:41
  and we went up the they were still there, weren't they? Right? So we go up the Trade Towers, and I'm right at the top, you know, with my nose pressed like a little kid against the glass looking down the thing, and I said, I don't like this. I don't like this at all. This is just too high. Silly, what's the point of making these things so high? You know?
• 1:51:57
  Gravity is gonna win. Gravity
• 1:52:00
  is you know? So I'm gonna respect gravity and try and stay on the ground. It's quite nice. I I like that.
• 1:52:06
  Unknown: Pretty funny. Pretty funny stuff. Mhmm. I get that high up in there. It it makes me I get that sensation to wanna jump when I start getting to the edge. It it jacks with my mind, so I I try to stay away. And when I was young, it didn't bother me. But and got into flying Cessnas about ten years ago and realized I'd kill myself.
• 1:52:24
  I didn't do it every other day, so my in law flew for or still does my son-in-law for JetBlue. And,
• 1:52:30
  we do touch and goes and all that, and I really had a peace of mind. It felt clear. You know, we'd fly for three or four hours and rent a plane of Gibson County. And,
• 1:52:38
  after about sixteen hours, I realized all that. And I was wanting to put one up at the river because it was two and a half hour drive to get there to tailwind in thirty minutes, and then we'll go visit it again one day when I when I get a little older. We've got more time to do it, but it's
• 1:52:51
  a way of life in Alaska. That's for sure. And I'm in love with that place. But, you know, jumping,
• 1:52:58
  jumping off things is just just don't work out for us to get older.
• 1:53:01
  I I remember we went out to Colorado. Brenda
• 1:53:04
  was trying to get me to, to go out west to Colorado instead of going to Alaska because at one point, I was wanting to go up there and and and get away and live and
• 1:53:14
  went after the Great Divide and all that. We went we canoed the, rafted the,
• 1:53:18
  the Arkansas River and, asked the guy. He was he was an old hippie. And, I said, well, what happens when people flip over? He was telling I
• 1:53:26
  said, how many people die? He said, well, most of the people that die from the cold water when they hit it, usually in their fifties.
• 1:53:33
  And he said, I've had three or four guys, die. I said, well, I'm in my forties. What do you think? He said, well, you got a minute, but he said, you know, it could happen.
• 1:53:41
  And,
• 1:53:42
  he said, just the sheer excitement and hitting that cold water just, you know, puts him in a cardiac arrest in the morning time.
• 1:53:48
  But,
• 1:53:50
  Unknown: there's a lot of adventures out there, but I just ain't for the fast moving ones anymore. Well, I tell you, I got an I got a personal story. I don't know if I got enough time to tell it. What about pipe smoking? That's can't we I mean, you already do that, Roger. Yeah. I've been doing that for There's
• 1:54:04
  Unknown: an element of danger you could set by a team. That's right. You know, we can we can sit down. We can ponder things. We'd look good with pipes. They need to come back and pocket watches, all that kind of stuff, and we have to sort of and ponder and stroke out of the ear too. I got both them. Did you notice did you notice all the smoking robe and slippers. I I got it. I don't have a pipe yet, but I got all that. Good. We need a Patrick, we need a picture. This is all about you. It's easy you say this stuff. Now come over here and say whatever they like. Roger needs the picture. Get that picture from him. Alright. Paul. Paul I'll get evidence to you quickly. Did you notice how many guys in the film had a pipe?
• 1:54:42
  Yeah. I I was that's what really knocked me out. It's a really great advert for the pipe industry, of course, which has collapsed massively. Nobody does it anymore. So pipes and hats you know who would have thought milliners and and the pipe manufacturers thought they were in probably 1910.
• 1:54:56
  Here we are a century later barely anywhere to be seen aren't they?
• 1:55:00
  The guards. As I said the thing about a pipe right is somebody bought I was banging on about pipes years ago, so a guy used to go camping with families you know it's about ten twelve years ago, he buys me a pipe when we're out there on the cinema so I didn't really like the damn thing but the thing I always thought they were really good for is that if you're in discussion with someone and you've got the pipe, the idea is that you take the wet end out of your mouth and if you want to make a point and you want to drive it home a bit, you just prod them lightly in the shoulder with the wet end of the pipe leaving a series of dotty marks on their shoulder. Now look here, see, you just go tap tap tap, it's just enough to get the point across and you leave a permanent mark on their shirt, you see. I always thought it was better for that. You'll make a
• 1:55:46
  Unknown: permanent enemy out of that person too.
• 1:55:50
  Unknown: I just I
• 1:55:52
  what about a mass piping? I always thought about this thing that's sort of mass spontaneous
• 1:55:57
  pipe in. So you want 200 guys all in Trafalgar Square and at 10:00, everybody just takes a pipe out and just puts it in. The whole play, it it would be spooky, wouldn't it? So you can see I I don't get out much.
• 1:56:09
  I got out once. I'll get out
• 1:56:12
  Unknown: I don't get out much. You've really been you've really been domesticated.
• 1:56:16
  You've been domesticated,
• 1:56:17
  Paul.
• 1:56:19
  Unknown: I know. Yeah. Hey. Look. We have a magazine over here called The Chap. Right? Seriously, it's called The Chap,
• 1:56:26
  and it's about British chaps. Okay?
• 1:56:28
  And they they did a thing on Oxford Street about ten years ago where they all had mustaches and pipes and trilbies,
• 1:56:36
  and the I read this article. It said, oh, the shoppers on Oxford Street, which is the main shopping street in London, said shoppers on Oxford Street were stunned, bemused, and amazed when there was a massive outbreak of politeness,
• 1:56:48
  good manners, decency
• 1:56:50
  on Oxford Street. And these guys, all these photographers going and doffing their trilbies to women going, good morning, mom, and things like it was just sort of ridiculous bit of street there. Fantastic. How British. How British. Very silly. Paul, thank you. Thanks for spending a couple hours with us. I'll put the
• 1:57:05
  Unknown: link to the they shall not die on the cash box description today.
• 1:57:10
  You guys have a good day. I will be back tomorrow. Patrick,
• 1:57:15
  Doug, and Katya, thanks for joining us and participating.
• 1:57:18
  I'll see y'all again tomorrow. Okay?
• 1:57:21
  Unknown: Superb. You're live. Good day. Alright. See you, Chico's.
• 1:57:25
  Unknown: Go get a little more organized in the new apartment here. Thanks.
• 1:57:33
  Unknown: Go make distilled water here. The
• 1:57:38
  Unknown: delivery man is lost.
• 1:57:42
  Are we off there? No. We're still on Oh, I hope not. No. We're still on air. We're still on air. Makes it more exciting if we say something really terrible,
• 1:57:49
  and then people can throw it back in our faces later on. It'd be absolutely fantastic. Much more interesting.
• 1:57:54
  Unknown: Well We're off air now, Bruce. We are now.
• 1:58:10
  Unknown: Blasting the Voice of Freedom Worldwide,
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  you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
• 1:58:16
  Unknown: Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.