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- 0:01Speaker 1: X, are you okay? This is X and he's a
- 0:05Speaker 1: great guy, high IQ. He's a high IQ individual.
- 0:10Speaker 2: And I got this school chain.
- 0:11Speaker 3: He's gone, so thank you very much. We had a
- 0:14Speaker 3: busy day today. The King just left and we've had a.
- 0:18Speaker 1: Great discussion, terrific discussion concerning Gaza and everything else. We
- 0:25Speaker 1: had discussions also about Saturday at twelve o'clock.
- 0:30Speaker 3: It's going to be a big moment. We'll see what happens.
- 0:32Speaker 1: I don't expect much happening with these people, but we'll
- 0:35Speaker 1: see what happens.
- 0:36Speaker 3: And we're going to be signing a very important deal today.
- 0:41Speaker 1: It's a DOGE and I'm going to ask Elon to
- 0:45Speaker 1: tell you a little bit about it and some of
- 0:47Speaker 1: the things that we found, which is shocking billions and
- 0:50Speaker 1: billions of dollars in waste, fraud and abuse. And I
- 0:55Speaker 1: think it's very important and that's one of the reasons
- 0:58Speaker 1: I got elected. I say we're going to do that.
- 1:00Speaker 1: Nobody had any idea was that bad. That's sick, and
- 1:03Speaker 1: that corrupt. And it seems hard to believe that judges
- 1:06Speaker 1: want to try and stop us from looking for corruption,
- 1:09Speaker 1: especially when we found hundreds of millions of dollars worth
- 1:13Speaker 1: much more than that in just a short period of time.
- 1:16Speaker 3: We want to weed out the corruption.
- 1:18Speaker 1: And it seems hard to believe that a judge could say,
- 1:21Speaker 1: we don't want you to do that. Well, so maybe
- 1:24Speaker 1: we have to look at the judges because that's very serious.
- 1:27Speaker 1: I think it's a very serious violation. I'll ask Elon
- 1:32Speaker 1: Musk to say a few words and we'll take some questions.
- 1:36Speaker 2: Elon go ahead, Sure, So the.
- 1:42Speaker 4: At a high level, if you say, what is the
- 1:43Speaker 4: goal of those or and I think a significant part
- 1:48Speaker 4: of the presidency is to restore.
- 1:51Speaker 2: Democracy.
- 1:52Speaker 4: This may say seem like we'll offering in a democracy. Well,
- 1:55Speaker 4: if you don't have a feedback with fax, we'd have
- 1:58Speaker 4: to if you're.
- 2:00Speaker 2: Sorry, until your gravitas can be difficult sometimes.
- 2:05Speaker 4: So if there's not a good feedback loop from the
- 2:10Speaker 4: people to the government, and if you have rule of
- 2:14Speaker 4: the bureaucrat, if the bureaucracy is in charge, and then
- 2:19Speaker 4: what meaning does democracy actually have If the people cannot
- 2:22Speaker 4: vote and have there will be decided by their elected
- 2:26Speaker 4: representatives in the form of the president and the Senate
- 2:30Speaker 4: in the house, then we don't live in a democracy.
- 2:33Speaker 4: We live in a bureaucracy. So it's incredibly important that
- 2:36Speaker 4: we close that feedback we fix that feedback loop, and
- 2:39Speaker 4: that the public, the public's elected representatives, the President of
- 2:43Speaker 4: the House and the Senate, decide what happens as opposed
- 2:47Speaker 4: to a large unelected bureaucracy. This is not to say
- 2:51Speaker 4: that there aren't some good There are good people who
- 2:54Speaker 4: are in the federal bureaucracy. But you can't have an
- 2:57Speaker 4: autonomous federal bureaucracy.
- 3:00Speaker 2: You have to have one that is.
- 3:01Speaker 4: Responsive to the people. That's the whole point of a democracy.
- 3:06Speaker 5: And so.
- 3:08Speaker 4: And if if you looked at this, if you asked
- 3:09Speaker 4: to look at the founders today and said, what do
- 3:11Speaker 4: you think of the way things have turned out? Or
- 3:14Speaker 4: we have this unelected, fourth unconstitutional branch of government, which
- 3:20Speaker 4: which is the bureaucracy, which has in a lot of
- 3:22Speaker 4: ways currently more power than any elected representative, and this
- 3:26Speaker 4: is there's not something that.
- 3:28Speaker 2: People want.
- 3:30Speaker 4: And it's not it does not match the will of people.
- 3:34Speaker 4: So it's just something we've got to we've got to fix.
- 3:36Speaker 4: And they've also got to address the deficit. So we've
- 3:38Speaker 4: got a two twenty dollars deficit. And if this, if
- 3:42Speaker 4: we don't do something about this deficit. Country is going bankrupt.
- 3:46Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's really astounding that the the interest
- 3:50Speaker 4: payments alone on the national debt exceed the defense department budget,
- 3:56Speaker 4: which is shocking because we've got a lot of we
- 3:58Speaker 4: spend a lot of money on defense, but and if
- 4:01Speaker 4: that just keeps going, we're essentially going to bankrupt the country.
- 4:04Speaker 4: So what I really want to say is like, it's
- 4:05Speaker 4: not optional for us to reduce the federal expenses.
- 4:09Speaker 2: It's essential.
- 4:11Speaker 4: It's essential for America to remain solvent as a country,
- 4:15Speaker 4: and it's essential for America to have the resources necessary
- 4:18Speaker 4: to provide things to its citizens and not simply be
- 4:21Speaker 4: servicing vast amounts of debt.
- 4:24Speaker 1: And also, could you mention some of the things that
- 4:26Speaker 1: your team has found, some of the crazy numbers, including
- 4:30Speaker 1: the woman that walked away with about thirty million.
- 4:33Speaker 2: Right, Well, we often we do find it sort of
- 4:37Speaker 2: rather odd that, you know, there are quite a few
- 4:41Speaker 2: people in.
- 4:44Speaker 4: The biocracy who have ostensibly a salary of a few
- 4:47Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars but somehow managed to accrue tens of
- 4:50Speaker 4: millions of dollars in net worth while they are in
- 4:53Speaker 4: that position, which is, you know, what happened to usaid,
- 4:57Speaker 4: we're just curious as to where it came from. Good
- 5:00Speaker 4: at investing, that which case we should take their investment
- 5:02Speaker 4: advice perhaps, But just there seems to be mysteriously they
- 5:08Speaker 4: get wealthy, We're done, Why where does it come from?
- 5:12Speaker 4: And I think the reality is that they're getting wealthy
- 5:15Speaker 4: detached their expense. That's that's the that's the honest truth
- 5:17Speaker 4: of it. So you know we're looking at say, well
- 5:23Speaker 4: we just if you look say treasury, for example, basic
- 5:29Speaker 4: controls that should be in place that are in place
- 5:32Speaker 4: in any company, such as making sure that any given
- 5:35Speaker 4: payment has a payment categorization code, that there is a
- 5:38Speaker 4: comment field that describes the payment, and that if a
- 5:42Speaker 4: payment is on that do not pay list, that you
- 5:44Speaker 4: don't actually pay it.
- 5:46Speaker 2: None of those things are true currently.
- 5:48Speaker 4: So the reason that departments can't pass ordits is because
- 5:52Speaker 4: the payments don't have a categorization code. It's like just
- 5:55Speaker 4: a massive number of blank checks just flying out the building.
- 5:58Speaker 4: So you can't reconcile playing checks. You've got comment fields
- 6:01Speaker 4: that are also blanks, you don't know why the payment
- 6:03Speaker 4: was made. And then we've got this a truly episode
- 6:07Speaker 4: a do not pay List, which can take up to
- 6:09Speaker 4: a year before an organization you get on it.
- 6:11Speaker 2: Do you not pay list?
- 6:14Speaker 4: And this we're talking about terrorist organizations, we're talking about uh,
- 6:18Speaker 4: known fraudsters, known aspects of waste, known things that do
- 6:21Speaker 4: not match any congressional appropriation. Can take up to a
- 6:24Speaker 4: year to get on the list. And even once it's
- 6:26Speaker 4: on the list, the list is not used. It's mind blowing.
- 6:31Speaker 4: So so what we're talking about here, we're really just
- 6:34Speaker 4: talking about adding common sense controls that should be present,
- 6:39Speaker 4: uh that that haven't been present. So you say, like, well,
- 6:42Speaker 4: how could such a thing arise? Does that's that seems
- 6:45Speaker 4: that seems crazy that when you understand that that really
- 6:48Speaker 4: everything is scared towards complaint to minimization.
- 6:52Speaker 2: So that's that. Then you understand the motivations. So if people.
- 6:55Speaker 4: Receive money, they don't complain, obviously, but if people don't
- 7:00Speaker 4: to receive money, they do complain, and the fraust complain
- 7:04Speaker 4: the loudest and of the fastest. So then when you
- 7:09Speaker 4: understand that, then it makes sense. Oh that's why everything
- 7:12Speaker 4: just they prove all the payments at treasury, because if
- 7:16Speaker 4: you approve all the payments, you don't you don't get complaints.
- 7:20Speaker 4: But now now we're saying that no, actually we are
- 7:22Speaker 4: going to complain if if money is spent badly, if
- 7:25Speaker 4: if your taxpayer dollars are not spent in a sensible
- 7:27Speaker 4: and proval manner, then that's not okay. Your tax dollars
- 7:32Speaker 4: need to be spent wisely on the things that matter
- 7:35Speaker 4: to the people. I mean these things like it's just
- 7:39Speaker 4: common sense. It's not it's it's it's not draconian or radical.
- 7:44Speaker 4: I think it's it's really just saying, let's look at
- 7:46Speaker 4: each each of these expenditors and say, is this actually
- 7:49Speaker 4: in the best interest with the people. And if it is,
- 7:51Speaker 4: it's proved. But if it's not, we should think about it. So,
- 7:57Speaker 4: you know, there's crazy things like just curse examination of
- 8:00Speaker 4: Social Security. And we've got people in there at one
- 8:03Speaker 4: hundred and fifty years old. Now do you know anyone
- 8:06Speaker 4: there's one hundred and fifty I don't. Okay, they should
- 8:10Speaker 4: be on the Guinness Boo, the world records. They're messing out,
- 8:14Speaker 4: So you know that's the case, where like I think
- 8:16Speaker 4: they're probably dead, that's my.
- 8:17Speaker 2: Guess, or or they should be very famous. One of
- 8:20Speaker 2: the two.
- 8:22Speaker 4: And then that a whole bunch of soci security payments
- 8:24Speaker 4: where is no identifying identifying information.
- 8:27Speaker 2: Well, why is there no identifying information?
- 8:30Speaker 4: Obviously we want to make we want to make sure
- 8:32Speaker 4: that people who deserve to receive social security do receive it,
- 8:37Speaker 4: and that they receive it quickly and accurately. Also another
- 8:41Speaker 4: crazy thing, so you know, one of the things is
- 8:43Speaker 4: like which we are trying to sort of right size
- 8:46Speaker 4: the federal bureaucracy, just make sure that this obviously needs
- 8:49Speaker 4: they need to be a lot of people working for
- 8:50Speaker 4: the federal government, not as many as currently. So we're saying, well, okay, well,
- 8:53Speaker 4: let's if people can retire you know, with full benefit
- 8:57Speaker 4: benefits and everything, that that would be good. They can retire,
- 9:00Speaker 4: get the retirement payments, everything, And then we're told this
- 9:03Speaker 4: is actually I think a great anecdote because we're told
- 9:06Speaker 4: the most number of people that could retire possibly in
- 9:08Speaker 4: a month is ten thousand. We're like, well, why why
- 9:11Speaker 4: is that? Well, because all the retirement paperwork is manual
- 9:17Speaker 4: on paper. It's manually calculated and written down on a
- 9:19Speaker 4: piece of paper. Then it goes down to mine and like,
- 9:23Speaker 4: what do you mean a mine?
- 9:24Speaker 2: Like, yeah, there's a.
- 9:25Speaker 4: Limestone mine where we stole all the retirement paperwork that
- 9:30Speaker 4: and you look a picture of a picture of this mine.
- 9:32Speaker 2: We'll post them pictures afterwards.
- 9:34Speaker 4: And this is this mine looks like something out of
- 9:36Speaker 4: the fifties because it was started in nineteen fifty five,
- 9:39Speaker 4: so it looks like it's like a time warp. And
- 9:43Speaker 4: then the speed, then the limiting factor is the speed
- 9:45Speaker 4: at which the mine, the shaft elevator can move, determines
- 9:49Speaker 4: how many people can retire from the federal from the
- 9:51Speaker 4: federal government, and.
- 9:53Speaker 2: The elevator breaks down. And then I said sometimes, and
- 9:56Speaker 2: then you can't. Nobody can retire. Doesn't that sound There's
- 10:01Speaker 2: like a thousand people that work on this.
- 10:03Speaker 4: So I think if we take those people and say, like,
- 10:05Speaker 4: you know what, instead of working in a mind shaft
- 10:07Speaker 4: and carrying Manila envelopes to you know, boxes, in a mindshaft,
- 10:13Speaker 4: you could do practically anything else and you would add
- 10:17Speaker 4: to the goods and services of the United States in
- 10:21Speaker 4: a more useful way. So anyway, so I think, you know,
- 10:26Speaker 4: that's an example, like at a high level, if you
- 10:28Speaker 4: could say, like how do we increase prosperity, is we
- 10:30Speaker 4: get people to do to shift from roles that are
- 10:33Speaker 4: load to negative productivity to high productivity roles and so
- 10:38Speaker 4: increase the total output of goods and services, which means
- 10:40Speaker 4: that there's a higher standard of.
- 10:42Speaker 2: Living available for everyone. That's that's the actual goal. No,
- 10:47Speaker 2: one's very quiet.
- 10:49Speaker 6: So your detractors, mister, including a lot of Democrats, I
- 10:56Speaker 6: have detractors I don't believe it, say that you're orchestrating
- 11:01Speaker 6: a hostile takeover of government and doing it in a
- 11:04Speaker 6: non transparent way.
- 11:05Speaker 2: What's your response to that criticism. Well, first of all,
- 11:10Speaker 2: you couldn't ask for a stronger mandate from the public. Uh.
- 11:14Speaker 2: The public voted.
- 11:15Speaker 4: Uh, you have a majority of the public vote voting
- 11:19Speaker 4: for President Trump. We've won the House, who won the Senate.
- 11:26Speaker 4: The people voted for major government reform. There should be
- 11:31Speaker 4: no doubt about that. That was on the campaign. The
- 11:34Speaker 4: President spoke about that at every rally. The people voted
- 11:37Speaker 4: for major government reform. And that's what people are gonna get.
- 11:40Speaker 4: They're gonna get what they voted for. And a lot
- 11:43Speaker 4: of times that you know people that don't get what
- 11:45Speaker 4: they voted for, but in this presidency, they are going
- 11:48Speaker 4: to get what they voted for.
- 11:49Speaker 2: And that's what democracy is all.
- 11:51Speaker 7: About, mister Busk.
- 11:54Speaker 8: The White House says that you will identify and excuse
- 11:56Speaker 8: yourself from any conflicts of interest that you may have.
- 12:00Speaker 7: Does that mean that you are in effect policing yourself.
- 12:03Speaker 8: What are the checks and balances that are in place
- 12:05Speaker 8: to ensure that there's accountability and transparency?
- 12:08Speaker 2: Really well, we.
- 12:09Speaker 4: Actually are trying to be as transparent as possible. In fact,
- 12:11Speaker 4: our actions, we post our actions to the DOGE handle
- 12:16Speaker 4: on x and to the DOGE website, so all of
- 12:19Speaker 4: our actions we are maximally transparent. In fact, I don't
- 12:22Speaker 4: think there's been I don't know of a case that
- 12:25Speaker 4: we're an organization has been more transparent than the DOGE organization.
- 12:30Speaker 4: And so, you know, and the kind of things we're
- 12:33Speaker 4: doing are I think very very simple and basic that
- 12:36Speaker 4: they're not. We're you know what I mentioned brings for
- 12:39Speaker 4: example about Treasury just making sure that that payments that
- 12:42Speaker 4: go out text paramorney that goes out is categorized correctly,
- 12:46Speaker 4: that that that the payment is explained, that organizations that
- 12:50Speaker 4: do not play list, which are takes a lot to
- 12:52Speaker 4: get there, that actually are not paid, which currently they
- 12:55Speaker 4: are paid. These these are these are not individual judgment decisions.
- 12:59Speaker 4: These about simply having sensible checks and balances in the
- 13:02Speaker 4: system itself to ensure that tax payer money is spent. Well,
- 13:05Speaker 4: so it's got likes to do with like say a
- 13:07Speaker 4: contract for some company of mine at all.
- 13:09Speaker 8: But if there is a conflict of interest when it
- 13:11Speaker 8: comes to you yourself, for instance, you've received billions of
- 13:14Speaker 8: dollars in federal contracts when it.
- 13:17Speaker 7: Comes to the Pentagon, for instance, which the President I
- 13:19Speaker 7: know has directed you to look into. Are you policing
- 13:22Speaker 7: yourself in that.
- 13:23Speaker 8: Is there any sort of accountability check and balance in
- 13:26Speaker 8: place that would provide any transparency for the American people?
- 13:29Speaker 2: Well, all of our actions are are fully public.
- 13:33Speaker 4: So if you see anything you say like, wait a second, hey,
- 13:35Speaker 4: you know that, doesn't that seems like maybe that's you
- 13:38Speaker 4: know that there's a conflict there. It felt like people
- 13:41Speaker 4: are going to be shy about saying that. They'll say
- 13:43Speaker 4: it immediately, you know you yourself, Yes, but it transparency
- 13:48Speaker 4: is what will its trust? Not simply somebody asserts any trust,
- 13:52Speaker 4: so somebody is saying they're trustworthy. But transparency so you
- 13:55Speaker 4: can see everything that's going on, and then you can
- 13:57Speaker 4: see am I doing something that benefits one of my companies.
- 14:00Speaker 2: Not it's totally.
- 14:01Speaker 1: Obvious, and we thought that we would not let him
- 14:04Speaker 1: do that segment or look in that area if we
- 14:07Speaker 1: thought there was a lack of transparency or a conflict
- 14:11Speaker 1: of interest, and we watched that. Also, he's a big businessman,
- 14:16Speaker 1: he's a successful guy. That's why we want him doing this.
- 14:18Speaker 1: We don't want an unsuccessful guy doing this now. One
- 14:23Speaker 1: thing also that Elon hasn't really mentioned are the groups
- 14:27Speaker 1: of people that are getting some of these payments. They're ridiculous,
- 14:31Speaker 1: and we're talking about billions of dollars that we've already found.
- 14:34Speaker 1: We found fraud and abuse. I would say those two
- 14:39Speaker 1: words as opposed to the third word that I usually is,
- 14:41Speaker 1: but in this case fraud and abuse, it's abusive because
- 14:46Speaker 1: most of these things virtually made up or certainly money
- 14:50Speaker 1: shouldn't be said, Tom and you know what I'm talking about.
- 14:53Speaker 3: It's crazy.
- 14:55Speaker 1: But we're talking about tens of billions of dollars that
- 14:59Speaker 1: we've already found, and now a judge who's an activist
- 15:03Speaker 1: judge wants to try and stop us from doing this,
- 15:08Speaker 1: and why would they want to do that. I can't
- 15:09Speaker 1: paignt on this. I can't paign to the fact that
- 15:11Speaker 1: I said government is corrupt, and it is very corrupt.
- 15:15Speaker 3: It's very very it's also foolish.
- 15:19Speaker 1: As an example, a man has a contract for three
- 15:21Speaker 1: months and the contract ends, but they keep paying them
- 15:25Speaker 1: for the next twenty years, you know, because nobody ends
- 15:27Speaker 1: a contract.
- 15:27Speaker 3: You get a lot of that. You have a contract
- 15:30Speaker 3: that's a three month contract.
- 15:33Speaker 1: Now normally, if you're in a small in all fairness,
- 15:35Speaker 1: it's the size, if this thing is so big. But
- 15:39Speaker 1: if you have a contract and you're in a regular business,
- 15:42Speaker 1: you end the contract in three months. You know, it's
- 15:44Speaker 1: a consultant. Here's a contract for three months, but it
- 15:47Speaker 1: goes on for twenty years. I think guy doesn't say
- 15:51Speaker 1: that he got money for twenty years. You know, they
- 15:52Speaker 1: don't say it. They just keep getting checks a month
- 15:55Speaker 1: after month. And you have various things like that, and
- 15:58Speaker 1: even much worse than that, actually much worse. And I
- 16:01Speaker 1: guess you call that incompetence. Maybe it could be corruption,
- 16:04Speaker 1: It could be deals made on both sides. You know,
- 16:06Speaker 1: where I gets some money, he kicks I think he
- 16:09Speaker 1: has a lot of kickback here. I see a lot
- 16:11Speaker 1: of kickback here, A lot of kickbacks tremendous kickback because
- 16:14Speaker 1: nobody could be so stupid to give out some of
- 16:16Speaker 1: these contracts, so he has to get a kickback. So
- 16:21Speaker 1: that's what I got elected for. That and borders and military,
- 16:25Speaker 1: a lot of things, but this is a big part
- 16:27Speaker 1: of it. And I hope that the court system is
- 16:31Speaker 1: going to allow us to do what we have to do.
- 16:33Speaker 1: We got elected to, among other things, for all of
- 16:36Speaker 1: this fraud abuse, all of this this horrible stuff going on.
- 16:41Speaker 1: And we've already found billions of dollars, not like a
- 16:44Speaker 1: little bit, billions, many billions of dollars, and when you
- 16:49Speaker 1: get down to it, it's going to be probably close
- 16:52Speaker 1: to a trillion dollars. It could be close to a
- 16:54Speaker 1: trillion dollars that we're going to find that will have
- 16:58Speaker 1: quite an impact on the budget. And you'll go to
- 17:02Speaker 1: a judge with a handpicker judge, and he has certain leanings.
- 17:06Speaker 1: I'm not knocking anybody for that, but he has certain
- 17:08Speaker 1: leanings and he wants us to stop looking.
- 17:12Speaker 3: How do you stop looking? I mean, we've already found it.
- 17:15Speaker 1: We have a case in New York where a hotel
- 17:18Speaker 1: has paid fifty nine million dollars fifty nine million because
- 17:21Speaker 1: of because of housing migrants illegal migrants, all illegal, I believe.
- 17:28Speaker 4: And they're being paid twice the normal room rate at
- 17:29Speaker 4: one hundred percent occupancy.
- 17:31Speaker 3: Unbelievable.
- 17:32Speaker 2: Yes, ask a question if I may sort of just
- 17:37Speaker 2: going for the president's comments at a high level.
- 17:41Speaker 4: Okay, well, how exactly how do you what are the
- 17:45Speaker 4: two ingredients that are really necessary in order to cut
- 17:48Speaker 4: the budget depths in half from two trillion to one trillion.
- 17:51Speaker 4: And it's really two things, competence and caring. And if
- 17:57Speaker 4: you add competence and caring, you'll cut the budget debts
- 18:00Speaker 4: in half. And and I fully expect to be scrutinized
- 18:04Speaker 4: and get you a daily proputology exam basically my sol's
- 18:08Speaker 4: camp out there. So it's not like I think I
- 18:11Speaker 4: can get away with something. I'll be scrutinized, not stop.
- 18:16Speaker 4: But with support of the President, we can. We can
- 18:18Speaker 4: cut the budget deficit in half from two trillion to
- 18:20Speaker 4: one And then with deregulation, because there's a lot of
- 18:24Speaker 4: sort of regulations that don't ultimately serve the public good,
- 18:29Speaker 4: we need to free the builds of America to build.
- 18:32Speaker 4: And if we do that, that means I think we
- 18:35Speaker 4: can get the economic growth to be maybe three four percent,
- 18:38Speaker 4: maybe five percent. And that means if you can get
- 18:41Speaker 4: a trillion dollars economic growth and you cut the budget
- 18:43Speaker 4: deficit by a trillion between now and next year, there
- 18:48Speaker 4: is no inflation. There's no inflation in twenty six and
- 18:52Speaker 4: if the government is not borrowing as much, it means
- 18:54Speaker 4: that interest costs a client. So everyone's the mortgage, the
- 18:58Speaker 4: car payment, their credit card bills anything, there's their their
- 19:01Speaker 4: student dead the multi payments drop. That's a fantastic scenario
- 19:08Speaker 4: for the average American. I mean, imagine, think they're going
- 19:12Speaker 4: down the grocery ail and the prices for one year
- 19:15Speaker 4: to the next are the same and there and they're
- 19:20Speaker 4: they're there mortgage, all the dead payments dropped. How great
- 19:24Speaker 4: is that for the average American?
- 19:27Speaker 3: We had, We had no idea what we're going to
- 19:29Speaker 3: find this much. And it's open. It's it's not like complicated,
- 19:34Speaker 3: it's it's not public.
- 19:35Speaker 1: It's a lot of you can't believe it, a lot
- 19:37Speaker 1: of work, a lot of smart people involved, very very
- 19:40Speaker 1: smart people. But uh, it's you're talking about anyway, maybe
- 19:45Speaker 1: five hundred billion dollars.
- 19:47Speaker 3: It's crazy the kind of numbers.
- 19:48Speaker 2: Yes, it's really crazy.
- 19:50Speaker 1: You know, Normally, when you're looking at something, you'll find
- 19:52Speaker 1: you're looking for one out of one hundred.
- 19:54Speaker 3: Here you're almost reversing it.
- 19:56Speaker 1: You look for one that's good, and you can look
- 19:59Speaker 1: at the tide and you say, why are we doing this?
- 20:02Speaker 3: Why are we doing that?
- 20:03Speaker 1: And the public it's it. You know, the public hits it.
- 20:05Speaker 1: You've seen the pulse. The public is saying, why are
- 20:07Speaker 1: we paying all this money? This is for years, this
- 20:10Speaker 1: has gone on. Yeah, go ahead, wait, go ahead.
- 20:15Speaker 5: Senator Rampaul today said that doge cuts will ultimately need
- 20:18Speaker 5: a vote in Congress.
- 20:19Speaker 7: Do you agree with that? Is that the land?
- 20:20Speaker 3: I really don't know.
- 20:21Speaker 8: I know this.
- 20:22Speaker 1: We're finding tremendous fraud and tremendous abuse. If I need
- 20:27Speaker 1: a vote of Congress to find fraud and abuse, it's
- 20:30Speaker 1: fine with me. I think we'll get the vote, although
- 20:33Speaker 1: there'll be some people that wouldn't vote. And how could
- 20:35Speaker 1: a judge want to hold us back from finding all
- 20:38Speaker 1: of this fraud and finding all of this incompetence?
- 20:42Speaker 3: Why would that happen? Why would even Congress want to
- 20:45Speaker 3: do that?
- 20:45Speaker 1: Now, Congress, if we do need a vote, I think
- 20:47Speaker 1: we get a very easy vote, because we have a
- 20:50Speaker 1: track record.
- 20:50Speaker 3: Now we've already found.
- 20:52Speaker 1: Billions of dollars of abuse, in competence and corruption, a
- 20:57Speaker 1: lot of corruption.
- 20:58Speaker 8: If a judge does block one of your policies part
- 21:01Speaker 8: of your agenda, will you abide by that rule?
- 21:03Speaker 7: Will you call?
- 21:04Speaker 1: Well, I always abide by the courts, and then I'll
- 21:06Speaker 1: have to appeal it. But then what he's done is
- 21:08Speaker 1: he slowed down the momentum, and it gives crooked people
- 21:12Speaker 1: more time to cover up the books. You know, if
- 21:15Speaker 1: a person's crooked and they get caught, other people see that,
- 21:18Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it becomes harder later on.
- 21:21Speaker 1: So yeah, the answer is I.
- 21:23Speaker 3: Always abide by the courts, always abide by him, and
- 21:27Speaker 3: will appeal. But appeals take a long time.
- 21:30Speaker 1: And I would hope that a judge, if you go
- 21:32Speaker 1: into a judge and you show him, here's a corrupt situation.
- 21:36Speaker 1: We have a check to be sent, but we found
- 21:39Speaker 1: it to be corrupt. Do you want us to send
- 21:41Speaker 1: this corrupt check to a person or do you want
- 21:44Speaker 1: us not to give it and give it back to
- 21:45Speaker 1: the taxpayer. I would hope a judge would say, don't
- 21:48Speaker 1: send it, give it back to the taxpayer.
- 21:50Speaker 4: Yeah, if I can add to that, what we're finding
- 21:53Speaker 4: is that a bunch of the fort is not even
- 21:54Speaker 4: going to Americans. So I think we all agree that
- 21:57Speaker 4: if there's going to be a should at least go
- 21:59Speaker 4: to Americans. But a bunch of the broad ranks that
- 22:02Speaker 4: are operating in the United States and taking advantage of
- 22:04Speaker 4: federal government, especially in the entitlements programs, are actually foreign
- 22:07Speaker 4: prod rinks. They are operating in other countries and actually
- 22:10Speaker 4: exporting money.
- 22:11Speaker 2: To other countries. We should stop that.
- 22:15Speaker 4: And this is big numbers FORBOD one hundred two hundred
- 22:18Speaker 4: million dollars a year. Serious funny, missus muss.
- 22:21Speaker 9: You said on x that an example of the fruit
- 22:24Speaker 9: that you have cited was fifty million dollars of condoms
- 22:28Speaker 9: was sent to Gaza. But after the fact check, this
- 22:33Speaker 9: apparently Gaza in Mozambique and the program was to protect
- 22:37Speaker 9: them against HIV.
- 22:38Speaker 7: So can you correct these statements? It wasn't sent to Hamas.
- 22:41Speaker 9: Actually it was in to musambik which makes sense why
- 22:44Speaker 9: condoms was sent there? And how can we make sure
- 22:47Speaker 9: that all the statements that you said were correct? So
- 22:50Speaker 9: we can't trust what you say?
- 22:52Speaker 4: Well, first of all, some of the things that I
- 22:54Speaker 4: say will be incorrect and should be corrected, So nobody
- 22:58Speaker 4: can about one thousand, I mean any you know, we
- 23:00Speaker 4: will make mistakes, but we'll quickly to correct any mistakes. So,
- 23:06Speaker 4: you know, if the I'm not sure we should be
- 23:08Speaker 4: sending fifty million bells with the condoms to anywhere. Frankly,
- 23:11Speaker 4: I'm not sure that's something Americans would be really excited about.
- 23:15Speaker 2: And that is really an enormous number of condoms when
- 23:16Speaker 2: you think about it.
- 23:19Speaker 4: But you know, if it went to most of the
- 23:21Speaker 4: week set of cause, I'm like, Okay, that's not as bad,
- 23:23Speaker 4: but still, you know, why are we doing that?
- 23:27Speaker 5: Can you talk a little bit about how closely you're
- 23:29Speaker 5: working with agency heads as you're directing these cuts. Do
- 23:33Speaker 5: they have the how much input do agency heads have
- 23:37Speaker 5: when you're making these decisions?
- 23:38Speaker 4: Yeah, we work closely with the agency heads and yeah,
- 23:43Speaker 4: so there's there are sort of checks in place, so
- 23:46Speaker 4: it's not just as just going in and doing things well,
- 23:48Speaker 4: you know, it's it's in fundiship with the agency heads
- 23:53Speaker 4: and I checked presially with the presidents to make sure
- 23:55Speaker 4: that you know, this is this is what the president
- 23:57Speaker 4: wants to happen. So we talk almost every day, and I,
- 24:02Speaker 4: you know, I double check things to make sure is
- 24:05Speaker 4: this something, miss President, you wanted us to do this?
- 24:07Speaker 2: We'll we'll then we'll do it.
- 24:09Speaker 7: U S A U S A I D'D has been
- 24:11Speaker 7: one of your main targets.
- 24:13Speaker 10: Are you concerned at all that some of the cuts
- 24:15Speaker 10: or that's shutting that agency altogether may lead to diseases
- 24:19Speaker 10: or other bigger problems starting in other countries that then
- 24:22Speaker 10: come to the United States.
- 24:24Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's an interesting example.
- 24:26Speaker 4: So that's something where we work closely with the State
- 24:28Speaker 4: Department and Sectary reveal, and we have for example, turned
- 24:33Speaker 4: on funding for abola prevention and for HIV product prevention.
- 24:37Speaker 2: I love that.
- 24:38Speaker 4: Yes, correct and and and we all we are moving fast,
- 24:42Speaker 4: so we will make mistakes, but we'll also fix the
- 24:44Speaker 4: mistakes very quickly.
- 24:46Speaker 7: So it has a worthy cause US A I D.
- 24:49Speaker 4: I think that there's some worthy things. But but overall,
- 24:52Speaker 4: if you say, what does the Bank of the bunk,
- 24:54Speaker 4: I would say it was not very good. And there
- 24:57Speaker 4: was far too much of what you have said My
- 25:00Speaker 4: idea was doing was influencing, influencing elections in ways that
- 25:04Speaker 4: I think were dubious and do not stand the light
- 25:07Speaker 4: of day.
- 25:08Speaker 7: I'm you just have to fall up to the Pentagon contracts.
- 25:11Speaker 8: If you have received billions of dollars in contracts from
- 25:14Speaker 8: the Pentagon and the President is directing you to look
- 25:17Speaker 8: into the Department of Defense, is.
- 25:19Speaker 2: You're definitely going to do and are going to do
- 25:20Speaker 2: at the President's request.
- 25:22Speaker 7: Does that present a complic of interest for you?
- 25:24Speaker 9: Uh?
- 25:24Speaker 4: No, because you'd have to look at the individual contract
- 25:26Speaker 4: and say, first of all, I'm not the one you know,
- 25:29Speaker 4: filing the contract. It's people at SpaceX or someone will
- 25:32Speaker 4: be putting for the contract. And I'd like to say,
- 25:34Speaker 4: if you see any contract where the where it was
- 25:37Speaker 4: worded to SpaceX and it wasn't by far the best
- 25:40Speaker 4: value for money for the taxpayer, let me know, because
- 25:42Speaker 4: every one of them was.
- 25:44Speaker 7: The President said the other day that you might look
- 25:47Speaker 7: at treasuries.
- 25:48Speaker 2: Could you explain that a little bit? What kind of
- 25:50Speaker 2: fraud or that question goes to both of you.
- 25:53Speaker 10: What kind of fraud are you expecting to see or
- 25:55Speaker 10: do you see right now in US treasuries?
- 25:59Speaker 2: I think you mean the Treasury Department as opposed to
- 26:01Speaker 2: treasury bills, or you also.
- 26:03Speaker 7: Reference Treasury is on Air Force one the other night.
- 26:06Speaker 4: Well, the as I mentioned earlier, really the first sort
- 26:10Speaker 4: of business is to make sure we're actually collecting.
- 26:12Speaker 2: Sorry for this other way.
- 26:14Speaker 4: Son might might enjoy this, but it's he's sticking his
- 26:16Speaker 4: fringers in my ears and stuff. It's been hot to
- 26:20Speaker 4: hear sometimes.
- 26:21Speaker 1: Hey.
- 26:23Speaker 4: So the stuff we're doing with with the Treasure Department
- 26:28Speaker 4: is so basic that you can't believe it doesn't exist already.
- 26:32Speaker 1: So so.
- 26:34Speaker 4: For example, like I mentioned, just making sure that that
- 26:37Speaker 4: when a payment goes out, it has to have a
- 26:40Speaker 4: payment categorization coats, like what type of payment is this?
- 26:45Speaker 2: You can't just leave the field blank.
- 26:46Speaker 4: Currently many payments that the field is left blank and
- 26:49Speaker 4: you have to describe what's the payment for some basic
- 26:52Speaker 4: rationalization that also is left blank. So this is why
- 26:55Speaker 4: you know the Pentagon when the last time the Pentagon
- 26:57Speaker 4: passed an ordered, I mean a decade ago, maybe it ever,
- 27:00Speaker 4: really and we want to just in order to actually
- 27:05Speaker 4: pass orders, you have to have financial information that allows
- 27:07Speaker 4: you to trace the payments, so you know, and once
- 27:13Speaker 4: in a while the Treasury has to test to pause
- 27:16Speaker 4: payments if it thinks the payment is going to a
- 27:19Speaker 4: fraudulent organization. Like if if if a company or organization
- 27:26Speaker 4: is on it do not pay list, we should not
- 27:29Speaker 4: pay it.
- 27:29Speaker 2: I'm sure we would agree.
- 27:30Speaker 4: Like if it's quite hard to get on that payment
- 27:32Speaker 4: that do not pay list, it means that this is
- 27:34Speaker 4: someone that is just it's like dead people, terrorists.
- 27:40Speaker 2: Known fraudsters, that kind of thing. We should not pay them,
- 27:45Speaker 2: but currently we do, which is crazy. We should stop that.
- 27:51Speaker 1: And by the way, hundreds thousands of transactions like that.
- 27:55Speaker 1: You know, we have a big team, and for the
- 27:59Speaker 1: sake of the country, I hope that the person that's
- 28:02Speaker 1: in charge and the other people that report to me
- 28:05Speaker 1: that are in charge are allowed to do the right thing,
- 28:08Speaker 1: namely make sure everything's honest, legitimate, and competent. But we're
- 28:14Speaker 1: looking at just when you look at usaid that was
- 28:18Speaker 1: that's one. We're gonna look at the military, We're gonna
- 28:20Speaker 1: look at education. They're much bigger areas. But the usaidea
- 28:25Speaker 1: is really corrupt. It's corrupt, it's incompetent, and it's really corrupt.
- 28:30Speaker 1: And I can't imagine a judge saying, well, it may
- 28:32Speaker 1: be corrupt, but you don't have the right you get
- 28:35Speaker 1: elected to look over the country and too, as we say,
- 28:38Speaker 1: make America great again. But you don't have the right
- 28:40Speaker 1: to go and look and see whether or not things
- 28:43Speaker 1: are right that they're paying, or that things are honest
- 28:46Speaker 1: at they're paying. And nobody can even believe there's other people.
- 28:49Speaker 1: Law professors, they've been saying, how can you take that
- 28:54Speaker 1: person's right away? You're supposed to be running the country,
- 28:56Speaker 1: but we're not allowed to look at who they're paying
- 28:59Speaker 1: it to and what they're paying.
- 29:00Speaker 3: We have massive amounts of fraud that we caught.
- 29:04Speaker 1: I think we probably caught way over a lot of
- 29:07Speaker 1: billions of dollars already in what two weeks, and it's
- 29:11Speaker 1: going to go to numbers that you're not going to believe.
- 29:14Speaker 1: And much as I said, much is incompetence and much
- 29:18Speaker 1: as dishonesty.
- 29:18Speaker 3: We have to catch it. And the only way going
- 29:20Speaker 3: to catch it is to look for it.
- 29:22Speaker 1: And if a judge is going to say you're not
- 29:23Speaker 1: allowed to look for it, that's pretty sad for our country.
- 29:28Speaker 3: I don't understand how it could even work.
- 29:30Speaker 7: I'm sorry.
- 29:31Speaker 8: Can you personally guarantee that which one the buy out
- 29:34Speaker 8: program the offerative federal workers? Can you personally guarantee that
- 29:37Speaker 8: the workers who opt in to resign now will be
- 29:39Speaker 8: paid through.
- 29:40Speaker 1: So they'll get their money. But they're getting a good deal.
- 29:43Speaker 1: They're getting a big buy out. And what we're trying
- 29:45Speaker 1: to do is reduce government. We have too many people.
- 29:48Speaker 1: We have office space, it's occupied by four percent. Nobody's
- 29:51Speaker 1: showing it to work because they were told not to.
- 29:54Speaker 1: And then Biden gave them a five year past some
- 29:57Speaker 1: of them, forty eight thousand of them, gave them a
- 29:59Speaker 1: five year place that for five years, you don't have
- 30:02Speaker 1: to show up to work. And let me tell you,
- 30:04Speaker 1: this is largely a bunch of this stuff is because
- 30:07Speaker 1: of Biden.
- 30:07Speaker 3: It's his fault.
- 30:09Speaker 1: He allowed this country what he did on our border,
- 30:12Speaker 1: what he did on our border is almost not as
- 30:14Speaker 1: bad as what he did. With all of these contracts
- 30:18Speaker 1: that have come out, it's a very sad day when
- 30:21Speaker 1: we look at it.
- 30:22Speaker 3: I can't even believe it.
- 30:23Speaker 1: But many contracts just extend, and they just keep extending,
- 30:26Speaker 1: and there was nobody there had correct it, and that
- 30:30Speaker 1: cannot be I can't imagine that could be held up
- 30:33Speaker 1: by the court, any court that would say that the
- 30:35Speaker 1: president or his representatives like Secretary of the Treasury, Secretary
- 30:40Speaker 1: of State whatever, doesn't have the right to go over
- 30:43Speaker 1: there books and make sure everything's honest.
- 30:46Speaker 3: I mean, how can you have a country.
- 30:47Speaker 1: You can't have anything that way, you can't have a
- 30:49Speaker 1: business that way, you can't have a country that way.
- 30:51Speaker 3: Thank you very much, everybody, Thank you.
- 31:00Speaker 1: The solig will be at the White House tonight at
- 31:03Speaker 1: about ten o'clock if you want to come over, you
- 31:05Speaker 1: can sailor though.
- 31:09Speaker 3: Not much now. They were very nice. We were treated
- 31:12Speaker 3: very nicely by Russia.
- 31:14Speaker 1: Actually, I hope that's the beginning of a relationship where
- 31:18Speaker 1: we can end that war and millions of people can
- 31:21Speaker 1: stop being killed.
- 31:22Speaker 3: They've lost millions of people.
- 31:23Speaker 1: They lost in terms of soldiers, probably one point five
- 31:28Speaker 1: million soldiers in a short period of time. We got
- 31:32Speaker 1: to stop that war. And I'm interested primarily from the
- 31:35Speaker 1: standpoint of death. We're losing all those soldiers, and then
- 31:39Speaker 1: not American soldiers, the Ukrainian and Russian soldiers. But you're
- 31:43Speaker 1: probably talking about a million and a half. I think
- 31:45Speaker 1: I think we kind of bring that one to an end. Okay,
- 31:48Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Tenantlock