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Planes, Trains & Boats | Ryan Gable · Ryder Lee

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Speaker 1: Ryan Gable. Welcome back to the show, my friend.
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Speaker 2: Hey Ryder, Thanks for having me back. It's always a pleasure.
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Speaker 1: Well, we're talking planes, trains and automobiles here today, Ryan,
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Speaker 1: because it is getting really strange, really weird. Did you
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Speaker 1: see this the navy? The Mexican Navy ship last week?
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Speaker 3: Yes, I did too.
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Speaker 1: Dead after ship strikes the Brooklyn Bridge. Snappy mass and
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Speaker 1: injuring crew members. And this was a Mexican n Evil
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Speaker 1: sailing ship, which that just you know, hit me because
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Speaker 1: I'm like, did this did we not have almost the
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Speaker 1: identical thing just happened like last year, which was the
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Speaker 1: Baltimore Bridge whenever the ship supposedly lost power, and well
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Speaker 1: the CNN is reporting the lost power twice before the
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Speaker 1: crash and then it collapsed the Baltimore Bridge. Like, what's
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Speaker 1: the deal with these ships and these vessels? And if
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Speaker 1: you take it back even further, okay, if you go
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Speaker 1: back to around the beginning of twenty twenty in the Evergreen,
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Speaker 1: do you remember the Evergreen ship that was stuck in
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Speaker 1: the canal for like over a month, the cargo ship.
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Speaker 2: I recall that to a very small degree that that
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Speaker 2: particular story.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this was a really big deal whenever it happened,
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Speaker 1: because nobody could figure out how the ship got stuck
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Speaker 1: in the canal and it was a huge cargo ship.
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Speaker 1: And this was like around the time that you know,
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Speaker 1: during twenty twenty when all of the cargo ships were
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Speaker 1: just lined up in Long Beach in California because they
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Speaker 1: said that there wasn't enough people to process all of
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Speaker 1: the food. I don't know if you remember any of this,
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Speaker 1: but I remember it because I went to the beach
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Speaker 1: in Long Beach during this period of time and there
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Speaker 1: was like thirty cargo ships that was just placed out
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Speaker 1: there for like a month. They didn't move, just like
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Speaker 1: right off the coast there in southern California. And then
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Speaker 1: this Evergreen ship. It's just so weird. And then you
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Speaker 1: have the the submarine explosion going down to see the Titanic,
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Speaker 1: and we haven't even got into the train deralments and
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Speaker 1: the plane crashes and the helicopter crashes. Yet it's just
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Speaker 1: so strange. It seems like that they're trying to hit
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Speaker 1: every mode of transportation here, Ryan, And I'm interested to
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Speaker 1: get your thoughts on it, because I know that you've
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Speaker 1: covered a lot of this, that you've been doing this
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Speaker 1: for a really long time, and you normally cover these
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Speaker 1: types of events, but whenever you kind of line them
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Speaker 1: all up, it seems like since twenty twenty, we've had
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Speaker 1: more accidents, more helicopter crashes, more plane crashes, more boat accidents.
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Speaker 1: Then it seems like that we've ever had before. Now,
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Speaker 1: maybe someone could say, oh, well, they just it's always
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Speaker 1: been happening like this, they just haven't reported it. I
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Speaker 1: don't know what's your thoughts.
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Speaker 2: Well, I like to look at all of the different angles.
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Speaker 2: So certainly that's the most common story, is that it's
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Speaker 2: all sort of random and that there's no conspiracy, and
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Speaker 2: that there's no pattern. It's just happening and that's how
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Speaker 2: things are. Then there's the opposite extreme, which is that
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Speaker 2: there's some shadowy cabal that is orchestrating all of this.
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Speaker 2: Even when we're talking about very small planes, private jets
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Speaker 2: that might crash. We're talking about small boats as well
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Speaker 2: as big boats and big planes, and trains as well,
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Speaker 2: and automobiles and everything else. That's the opposite extreme, that
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Speaker 2: there's some giant conspiracy. I don't really buy either. And
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Speaker 2: I don't really like this theme or this motif on
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Speaker 2: social media where you see the I think it's a
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Speaker 2: hashtag even that says they don't want us to fly
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Speaker 2: or they don't want us to travel, and how that
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Speaker 2: has something to do with plane crashes and train derailments
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Speaker 2: and whatnot. It's one of those things for me anyway,
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Speaker 2: It's one of those things that I feel like is
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Speaker 2: a kind of rhetoric. It's a form of Frankly, I
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Speaker 2: think it's a form of propaganda, and I think the
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Speaker 2: algorithm drives that. And I think when you believe either
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Speaker 2: one of those extremes, not that there might not be
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Speaker 2: something suspicious going on in one case of one case
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Speaker 2: or another, but when you believe one of those two extremes,
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Speaker 2: you don't ask questions or consider additional evidence. And I'll
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Speaker 2: give you an example of what I mean. There's no
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Speaker 2: doubt that the Baltimore Bridge incident or the Francis Scott
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Speaker 2: Key Bridge incident was not just a big incident because
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Speaker 2: of the size of the boat and the bridge and
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Speaker 2: the complexity of rebuilding something like that, but also because
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Speaker 2: of the timing of it, and because of the relationship
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Speaker 2: that that incident had with what occurred a couple of
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Speaker 2: days later, and that was the partial eclipse. I'm sure
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Speaker 2: you remember the partial solar eclipse, so that took place
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Speaker 2: within the same what ten day window, and some that
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Speaker 2: seems unrelated, but is I think a part of what
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Speaker 2: could be considered a cult or Charles fourteen pattern here
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Speaker 2: is that the eclipse involved NASA performing what was openly
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Speaker 2: admitted to be a scientific ritual where they fired rockets
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Speaker 2: with sensors and other components into the eclipse, essentially into
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Speaker 2: the eclipse, into that direction of the sky during the
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Speaker 2: eclipse to gather data, and they called it a pep,
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Speaker 2: and a pep in the mythology, was a serpent that encompasses,
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Speaker 2: that coils around the barge or the boat of raw
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Speaker 2: the sun god in the sky, and pep is the
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Speaker 2: serpent that consumes the sun that's what causes the eclipse.
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Speaker 2: It's a story that represents a natural phenomena. Of course,
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Speaker 2: it's not literally a serpent, and that to me is
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Speaker 2: a very occult underlying themes that you have this bridge collapse,
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Speaker 2: you have this material the bridge wrapped around this barge,
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Speaker 2: and then a couple of days later you have the
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Speaker 2: apep ritual, the science experiment by NASA, And in the
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Speaker 2: mythology it is a pep that wraps himself around the barge.
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Speaker 2: So to me, that's an interesting story and to me
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Speaker 2: that is a perhaps occult pattern. But I will also
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Speaker 2: say that if we're going to look at the statistical
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Speaker 2: data from twenty and twenty two, twenty twenty three, twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty four, not so much for twenty twenty five, but
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Speaker 2: both in the United States and then also internationally, plane
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Speaker 2: incidents are actually statistically down. In twenty twenty three it
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Speaker 2: was point eighty per one point two six million flights,
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Speaker 2: which was an all around approvement from one point thirty
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Speaker 2: out of one point two six million flights, So overall
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Speaker 2: there have actually been less plane crashes. The fatality risk
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Speaker 2: when there is a plane crash has also improved substantially
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Speaker 2: from point eleven out of the same number of crashes
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Speaker 2: to point zero three out of the same number one
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Speaker 2: point twenty six million, So you have less crashes internationally
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Speaker 2: that includes the US, it's global, and you have less
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Speaker 2: fatalities when there is an incident. Of course, you have
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Speaker 2: different definitions between crashes, accidents, incidents, etc. There's different definitions
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Speaker 2: of these things. But overall, the global airline rates of crash,
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Speaker 2: the rates of people being injured or dying, and even
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Speaker 2: departure accident rates have plummeted. Departure accident rates have plummeted
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Speaker 2: from two point nine for per million in twenty nineteen
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Speaker 2: to one point eight seven as of twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 2: So everything is technically statistically stafer, less prone to disaster,
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Speaker 2: less prone to people dying less prone to there being
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Speaker 2: accidents that might not destroy a plane or kill people,
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Speaker 2: but you know, maybe cripples an airline.
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Speaker 3: Or delays flights.
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Speaker 2: These things are actually statistically happening less often. Now, with
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Speaker 2: that being said, that's global, and if you looked in
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Speaker 2: the United States, you look at the statistical data here,
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Speaker 2: it's about the same. It's not really anymore or any less. However,
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Speaker 2: you can create the image by focusing the cameras and
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Speaker 2: the pins and the radios on those crashes or those
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Speaker 2: plane incidents or aviation incidents, or the train derailments or
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Speaker 2: the boat incidents. And you can do that intentionally or
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Speaker 2: it becomes a byproduct of the algorithm. If you go
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Speaker 2: to social media, as you and your whole audience knows.
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Speaker 2: If you're listening here on YouTube right now, and you
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Speaker 2: type something in video games, maybe look up GTA six
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Speaker 2: and you watch a couple of videos. Obviously, the next
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Speaker 2: time you get on YouTube, it's going to recommend other
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Speaker 2: game videos. And when you start to see a boat
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Speaker 2: incident here, you see a plane crash there, what do
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Speaker 2: you think the algorithm is going to show you. It's
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Speaker 2: going to show you more boat incidents, more plane crashes,
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Speaker 2: things that you might not otherwise see. If there wasn't
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Speaker 2: that naval ship that hit the bridge, or if there
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Speaker 2: wasn't a plane that crashed into San Diego killing the
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Speaker 2: music executive I think his name was Dave Shapiro, if
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Speaker 2: there wasn't these high profile cases that just might kind
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Speaker 2: of fall into the news cycle. And if you're offered
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Speaker 2: five news stories and one of them is about plane crashes,
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Speaker 2: one of them is about dogs, and one of them's
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Speaker 2: about something else, and people watch and listen and click
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Speaker 2: on and comment and whatnot on the plane crash, Well,
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Speaker 2: that's what the outlets are going to recognize as that's popular.
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Speaker 2: That's what people want to see and hear, and so
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Speaker 2: they're going to report more about that. And in fact,
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Speaker 2: I mean I went to film school and we had
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Speaker 2: a whole class on how we had I think we
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Speaker 2: had a thirty five millimeter class, which was more so filmed,
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Speaker 2: but we had a film class specifically for radio and TV,
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Speaker 2: more so for TV, but production like production in a studio,
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Speaker 2: and we went through the professional you know, daily steps
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Speaker 2: of how they sit together in a room and they
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Speaker 2: get the hand out from the main office and they
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Speaker 2: give a list of things that they want to cover,
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Speaker 2: sometimes based on advertisers, sometimes based on what the I
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Speaker 2: guess the head corporate boss is telling them to cover,
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Speaker 2: and then they just distribute that out to all of
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Speaker 2: the different outlets. So you might sit down one day
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Speaker 2: and they give you a paper that says, today's the
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Speaker 2: big issue is playing crashes. Tomorrow, the big issue is
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Speaker 2: the ditty scandal tomorrow. The day after that rather is
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Speaker 2: going to be you know, Epstein, The day after that's
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Speaker 2: going to be you know, cute puppy dogs. And so
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Speaker 2: at some level, you can obviously artificially create a narrative.
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Speaker 2: In other ways it's just about revenue and profit, and
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Speaker 2: in other ways it's just people that I think are
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Speaker 2: quite frankly delusional to think that there's nothing ever suspicious,
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Speaker 2: and then to think that everything is so suspicious that
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Speaker 2: there's some grand conspiracy. I think the truth is somewhere
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Speaker 2: in the middle, and I think it's important to take
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Speaker 2: these things on a case by case basis. Again, there's
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Speaker 2: last thing, but there's no doubt that the plane crash
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Speaker 2: with the helicopter was suspicious, and in fact, I don't
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Speaker 2: think that that was an accident. But that doesn't mean
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Speaker 2: that I think everything else is also intentional or not
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Speaker 2: an accident, or is an accident or does it Just
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Speaker 2: because I believe one thing doesn't mean that I have
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Speaker 2: to believe all the other things. We should be taking
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Speaker 2: things on a case by case basis and looking at
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Speaker 2: the statistical data. And I should add one more thing.
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Speaker 2: I think you'll appreciate this writer. You know, I've there's
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Speaker 2: a couple of people on x big accounts who have
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Speaker 2: posted things like this. They don't want you to fly,
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Speaker 2: this is what's happening. And then I'll post the federal
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Speaker 2: statistics about plane crashes, and these people will block me
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Speaker 2: or they'll attack me and say that you don't want
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Speaker 2: the truth, and I'm sitting there looking at it's like, no, no,
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Speaker 2: this is the statistical It shows the plane crashes, statistical
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Speaker 2: clear down. What this person is doing is profiting in
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Speaker 2: the same way that the mainstream news is profiting by
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Speaker 2: pushing those stories. And the mainstream news has no there's
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Speaker 2: no underlying conspiracy. It's just a horrible plane crash, and
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Speaker 2: that gets attention. People want to watch that and click
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Speaker 2: on it. It's morbid. And then the people like say
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Speaker 2: concerned citizen for example, an X a person and I
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Speaker 2: do not get along because every time they post some
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Speaker 2: nonsense like there's fog everywhere and it's killing people, it's
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Speaker 2: all over the world, and then I like, I'm in
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Speaker 2: the place where they say the fog is and there's
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Speaker 2: no fog, and then I say that to the person,
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Speaker 2: and then that they have an issue with it. It's
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Speaker 2: like they're just profiteers. So I think we need to
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Speaker 2: be a little more.
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Speaker 1: I almost forgot about the fog. Dude. There was like
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Speaker 1: three of them, Like there was back to back to back.
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Speaker 1: It was the solar eclipse is going to turn everyone
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Speaker 1: into zombies. The emergency broadcast signal was going to turn
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Speaker 1: everybody into zombies. The fog was then getting everybody's It
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Speaker 1: was like three things like that all happened in a
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Speaker 1: very short amount of time, and like none of them
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Speaker 1: ended up happening. And that's what I was, you know,
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Speaker 1: kind of thinking, I'm like, Okay, well, it's probably not
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Speaker 1: that these things are happening more, just like what you mentioned,
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Speaker 1: they're not happening more. They're just being reported on more,
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Speaker 1: like they're getting more attention, they're being put out there more.
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Speaker 1: Is kind of like that. I think it was Marilyn
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Speaker 1: Manson that said one time that you know, violence and
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Speaker 1: hate has always been there, it's just being more televised now.
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Speaker 1: And that makes a lot of sense when when you
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Speaker 1: take it into consideration, like all of these different things,
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Speaker 1: it's being pushed out more, it's being propagandized more. And
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Speaker 1: but I don't know what the reason is for that.
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Speaker 1: It's not like there isn't enough things going on, but
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Speaker 1: we do have like a twenty four hour type of
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Speaker 1: news cycle. So I guess there's only so many stories
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Speaker 1: that you can do on puppy dogs and the war
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Speaker 1: and Iran and the war in Iran, sorry, and Ukraine
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Speaker 1: and the war in Israel. There's only so much you
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Speaker 1: can do on that kind of stuff, so you got
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Speaker 1: to kind of throw some other things in there. But
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Speaker 1: the one that happened last week was really interesting. I
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Speaker 1: just the San Diego fire, San Diego plane crash, Who died,
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Speaker 1: who was injured, everything we know so far. This is
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Speaker 1: a plane that this was a small passenger plane that
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Speaker 1: just crashed in a residential neighborhood. Okay, it is really interesting.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even think that this video that
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Speaker 1: we're watching right now even shows like the devastation that
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Speaker 1: happened to this neighborhood. But there were six people on it.
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Speaker 1: It was a small little plane and they all died.
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Speaker 1: So local and federal officials continue to probe a fatal
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Speaker 1: May twenty second plane crash and the military housing neighborhood
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Speaker 1: in San Diego also it was in a military housing neighborhood.
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Speaker 2: And one of the people on board, if we're talking
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Speaker 2: about the same crash, his name was Dave Shapiro. He
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Speaker 2: was a big time music executive for Sound Talent Group.
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Speaker 2: I think it was the co founder of Sound Talent Group. Yes,
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Speaker 2: that I mean when there's a big name involved, that
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Speaker 2: is ripe for conspiracy because maybe the guy was going
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Speaker 2: to unveil something about child trafficking in Hollywood, and so
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Speaker 2: they took the plane down. And it's much easier to
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Speaker 2: just create that narrative and to sell that than it
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Speaker 2: is to recognize that plane crashes happen all the time
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Speaker 2: and that people die all the time, and that unless
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Speaker 2: we know who the person is, unless they're running some
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Speaker 2: big company, normally we don't care, you know, kind of
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Speaker 2: like with the United Healthcare CEO. People get shot in
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Speaker 2: Chicago and New York and Los Angeles and Baltimore every
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Speaker 2: single freaking day.
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Speaker 1: Oh, Chicago has the highest crime rate, in the highest
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Speaker 1: rate of fatalities in shootings that are going unreported than
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Speaker 1: anywhere in the United States.
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Speaker 2: A lot of shootings, but one person. In fact, I
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Speaker 2: think I don't necessarily agree with the philosophy that anarchists philosophy.
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Speaker 2: But there's a really great line in the movie. I
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Speaker 2: think it was the second you know, it was the
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Speaker 2: second Batman movie from Christopher Nolan with The Joker, with
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Speaker 2: Heath Ledger, and he said, nobody panics when things go
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Speaker 2: according to plan. If I say that tomorrow a truck
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Speaker 2: full of soldiers will be blown up, nobody panics because
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Speaker 2: that's all part of the plan. But if I say
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Speaker 2: that one mayor will die, then everybody loses their minds.
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Speaker 2: And that's exactly what we're talking about. One person United
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Speaker 2: Healthcare shooter. Healthcare shooter has become a hero because he
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Speaker 2: killed somebody. We've turned them into a cultural hero, a
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Speaker 2: political hero, an economic hero. And the same thing with
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Speaker 2: these plane crashes or with the train derailments. There are
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Speaker 2: people that take these and they and they profit off
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Speaker 2: of it. And I don't that, but again that doesn't
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Speaker 2: mean that I don't think that there couldn't be something
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Speaker 2: suspicious in some cases, like the med jet that crashed
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Speaker 2: in Philadelphia, that was really suspicious because reportedly there was
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Speaker 2: somebody on board. It was a medical plane. Somebody on board.
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Speaker 2: I think it was a little girl and she was
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Speaker 2: her family was a drug cartel, and they think that
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Speaker 2: the drug cartel took the plane down, or rival drug cartel.
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Speaker 2: I had read that. I don't know if that's completely
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Speaker 2: accurate or confirmed, but I mean that's that's a conspiracy.
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Speaker 2: If you want a conspiracy, that's a conspiracy conspiring to
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Speaker 2: take a plane down and kill a child to get
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Speaker 2: back at some somebody in the drug cartel industry. I mean,
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Speaker 2: that's that's a pretty big conspiracy. In the same way
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Speaker 2: that you know what happened with the Francis Scott key
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Speaker 2: Bridge and the Eclipse and the NASA pet program that
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Speaker 2: all went together really well. But again, there are things
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Speaker 2: like this that happen all the time, and that doesn't
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Speaker 2: mean that there's some grand conspiracy to them. We have
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Speaker 2: to look at these things on a case by case
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Speaker 2: basis and be a little bit more realistic about conspiracies
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Speaker 2: and about stuff that just happens naturally.
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Speaker 1: I think that it was a UFO that took that
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Speaker 1: plane down in Philadelphia Row.
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Speaker 2: That's what makes you a lot of money.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: The is the five point fifty slammed in the San
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Speaker 1: Diego Murphy's Canyon neighborhood early Wednesday morning of the twenty
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Speaker 1: second May twenty second, sparking more than a dozen in
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Speaker 1: nearby car and house fires, sending plumes of smoke skyward.
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Speaker 1: According to the information from the Federal Aviation Administration, National
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Speaker 1: Transportation Safety Board and San Diego Police and officials, emergency
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Speaker 1: personnel immediately responded to the scene, extinguishing multiple fires and
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Speaker 1: assisting residents with evacusations. Police set According to the FAA,
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Speaker 1: six people who were on board the the private jet
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Speaker 1: at the time of the incident, and they're trying to
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Speaker 1: say that the reason that it crashed because it was
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Speaker 1: super folgy. Now, if you remember, that's the same thing
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Speaker 1: that they said with the Kobe Bryant helicopter crash that
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Speaker 1: happened in what was that January of twenty twenty From
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Speaker 1: Business Insider, this timeline shows everything we know and what
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Speaker 1: we don't about the helicopter crash that killed Kobe Bryant,
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Speaker 1: his daughter, and eight other people. I'm pretty sure that
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Speaker 1: they blamed the helicopter crash accident that killed all those
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Speaker 1: people and killed Kobe Bryant on the fog.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And there were strange things about the Kobe Bryant
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Speaker 2: crash because of the commercial that he was in with
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Speaker 2: the helicopter that explodes because of the bomb.
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Speaker 1: Is crashed into a hillside after flying in heavy fog
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Speaker 1: conditions at about nine forty five am local time. It's
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Speaker 1: the fog. It's the creepy frog. We were just talking
22:22
Speaker 1: about the fog that makes everybody sick.
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Speaker 3: It's the killer fog.
22:24
Speaker 2: Bro it crashes planes. I mean that that kind of
22:28
Speaker 2: stuff does happen. As a matter of fact, I wanted
22:31
Speaker 2: to mention one other thing about Kobe Bryant. The cartoon
22:34
Speaker 2: that showed the plane the helicopter crash in him with
22:37
Speaker 2: the trophies seemed to kind of predict his death along
22:40
Speaker 2: with that other commercial. But if we're talking about fog,
22:42
Speaker 2: I don't know if you recall this. You're from West Virginia.
22:46
Speaker 2: I'm from Florida, and I I remember as a kid
22:51
Speaker 2: learning about the Sunshine Skyway Bridge collapse back in the eighties.
22:55
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard about that incident, this massive bridge
22:58
Speaker 2: that collapsed.
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Speaker 1: Was that in Washington? No?
23:01
Speaker 2: No, it was in Florida. No, I hadn't heard, so
23:07
Speaker 2: I think it's where's the Sunshine Skyway southern Saint Pete.
23:10
Speaker 2: It's south of Saint Pete Beach. So if you look
23:13
Speaker 2: on a map or if you type into the computer,
23:15
Speaker 2: Sunshine Skyway Bridge collapse. The story was when I was
23:19
Speaker 2: a kid, and it was terrified people that there were.
23:23
Speaker 2: It was early morning and there were people on the
23:25
Speaker 2: bridge and it was really foggy, and there were buses
23:28
Speaker 2: of children going to school, or at least one bus
23:30
Speaker 2: of kids going to school, and cars, and this big
23:35
Speaker 2: boat takes out the support column and the fog. Some
23:39
Speaker 2: said the person was drunk, others said something different, and
23:44
Speaker 2: the cars plummeted into the water. Bus plummeted into the water.
23:48
Speaker 2: I mean, I grew up hearing that story and how
23:51
Speaker 2: scary it was. And there's a lot of bridges in Florida,
23:55
Speaker 2: especially if you lived in Saint Pete, which is a peninsula,
23:59
Speaker 2: and then we lived on near the beach, so the
24:02
Speaker 2: beach is like artifice. Some of its artificial land built
24:06
Speaker 2: into the water. So it's like a peninsula on a peninsula.
24:09
Speaker 2: On Florida itself. As a peninsula, there's a lot of
24:12
Speaker 2: bridges everywhere you go down there. It was always scary
24:14
Speaker 2: to me because we heard these stories of the bridge,
24:17
Speaker 2: the Big Bridge collapsed in the eighties. The thing is, though,
24:20
Speaker 2: when that bridge collapsed in the eighties, in fact, kind
24:23
Speaker 2: of like your big story in West Virginia, the Silver
24:26
Speaker 2: Bridge of Offman story. And they blame that on a
24:30
Speaker 2: what was it a bolt or a supporting component malfunction. Yeah,
24:37
Speaker 2: thirty two or thirty three I think was the number
24:39
Speaker 2: of it that malfunctioned. Same kind of a thing with
24:43
Speaker 2: this bridge. In this case, we had a boat that
24:47
Speaker 2: strikes it in the fog and these cars collapse, and
24:50
Speaker 2: they say that was the main reason. And when they
24:52
Speaker 2: rebuilt the bridge, they rebuilt it, i think in the
24:57
Speaker 2: late eighties with much better support, supporting structure, or much
25:03
Speaker 2: better engineering and hopefully to even be able to withstand
25:08
Speaker 2: an accident like that. So even though it's a horrible
25:12
Speaker 2: thing that happens, and it happened because of fog and
25:15
Speaker 2: maybe the person was drunk, I don't know the whole story,
25:18
Speaker 2: for sure, I've heard every angle of it, having lived
25:21
Speaker 2: in Florida most of my life. But regardless of what happened,
25:24
Speaker 2: the results can actually be positive because they built a
25:28
Speaker 2: better bridge and it's able to withstand, you know, those
25:33
Speaker 2: kinds of accidents at least to some degree, in the
25:35
Speaker 2: same way that when there's massive earthquakes here in Japan.
25:38
Speaker 2: Japan's probably the most in Tokyo specifically, it's the most
25:41
Speaker 2: prepared city for earthquakes in the world. They have the
25:44
Speaker 2: most advanced earthquake warning systems and preparation for those kinds
25:48
Speaker 2: of things to happen. So like something positive can come
25:52
Speaker 2: out of something very negative. That's I think a side note,
25:55
Speaker 2: but I think it's important to look at the story
25:57
Speaker 2: because this.
25:58
Speaker 3: Was in the eighties.
25:59
Speaker 2: There was fog and the boat hit the bridge, and
26:02
Speaker 2: guess what didn't happen in the eighties. There weren't a
26:04
Speaker 2: bunch of people on their phones sharing memes and videos
26:09
Speaker 2: and pictures and audio things that are made up, things
26:13
Speaker 2: that are not made up, and spreading conspiracies about how
26:15
Speaker 2: the Illuminati took out the Sunshine Skyway Bridge. There just
26:20
Speaker 2: wasn't the platform for that, and today everything that happens
26:26
Speaker 2: is that kind of a story. And I think that
26:29
Speaker 2: that contrast between the eighties and how the Sunshine Skyway incident,
26:34
Speaker 2: I mean, it scared people, but how it was handled
26:36
Speaker 2: as opposed to how things are handled today is a
26:38
Speaker 2: massive contrast difference. Back then, you didn't really have the
26:44
Speaker 2: kind of media you have today. Today we have too
26:46
Speaker 2: much media, and back then people didn't really think that
26:50
Speaker 2: everything was a conspiracy in the same way that they
26:52
Speaker 2: do today. So I just think that there needs to
26:55
Speaker 2: be balance, and I think that there needs to be
26:56
Speaker 2: more objectivity about this stuff.
26:58
Speaker 1: Writer, Okay, so this article is really confusing. It says
27:05
Speaker 1: up here at the top, six people died. Well, I
27:10
Speaker 1: guess it doesn't say six people died. Somewhere. I thought
27:17
Speaker 1: that this six people died. Did I not read that?
27:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, I read that.
27:22
Speaker 2: I have an AP article like I just sent you
27:24
Speaker 2: over in the private chat.
27:26
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, yeah, these headlines are saying that six people died,
27:30
Speaker 1: and then down here it's saying that only two people died.
27:39
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe maybe it's two people that the two people
27:43
Speaker 2: survived the crash and then die later, or is it
27:46
Speaker 2: just say.
27:48
Speaker 1: Thart officials have confirmed at least two fatalities in the crash.
27:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, the article I have says six.
27:55
Speaker 2: That's another problem is that these places like the USA
27:58
Speaker 2: Today or AP or whatever it is, they want to
28:00
Speaker 2: report asap, they want to report first, and so they
28:04
Speaker 2: just report whatever, and then these stories end up changing
28:07
Speaker 2: because they don't have accurate information, kind of like that
28:11
Speaker 2: prison break in Louisiana, that prison break in New Orleans.
28:15
Speaker 2: I heard ten, I heard eleven.
28:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the same thing. I've seen that as I
28:20
Speaker 1: was doing the show, As I was talking about it
28:23
Speaker 1: with one the other day, I was like, it says ten,
28:26
Speaker 1: and then other ones say eleven, Like, which is it?
28:28
Speaker 1: Why can they not get there? Why can they not
28:31
Speaker 1: be accurate in their reporting? It makes zero sense all
28:35
Speaker 1: especially ten people escaped, eleven people escape? Which is it?
28:39
Speaker 1: How many people died in this? Was it six people
28:41
Speaker 1: died in the prane crash? Or was it two people
28:43
Speaker 1: that died in the plane crash? But some talent group
28:47
Speaker 1: music agency co founded by Dave Shapiro, confirmed the death
28:52
Speaker 1: of the forty two year old talent agent in the
28:53
Speaker 1: statement of the USA Today. Shapiro self identified. So I
28:57
Speaker 1: guess they're saying that Shapiro was piloting the plane and
29:02
Speaker 1: he's self identified as an airport helicopter pilot, so he
29:10
Speaker 1: wasn't even a registered helicopter an air like a plane pilot.
29:20
Speaker 1: What are they trying to say in this article? That
29:22
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. Oh well yeah, as long as
29:25
Speaker 1: I identify as a helicopter an airplane pilot, then that
29:28
Speaker 1: makes me an airplane pilot.
29:30
Speaker 3: Makes zero sense on his Instagram page.
29:35
Speaker 1: Okay, let's open up the Instagram page. Just take a
29:37
Speaker 1: little gander at this bad boy airplane helicopter pilot. So
29:48
Speaker 1: he's a music agent and he doubles as an airplane helicopter.
29:53
Speaker 3: Pilot, self identifying, self identifying. That's what you want.
29:59
Speaker 2: You want a pilot who does don't have any credentials,
30:01
Speaker 2: but they identify as a pilot.
30:03
Speaker 1: Two other Sound Talent employees were also killed in the crash,
30:07
Speaker 1: including Daniel Williams thirty nine. You played drums for the
30:10
Speaker 1: Devil Wars product for the band from two thousand and
30:13
Speaker 1: five inception until twenty and sixteen. I like the Devil
30:17
Speaker 1: Wars product.
30:19
Speaker 2: Did any of them any of them live in Laurel Canyon?
30:23
Speaker 1: No, they were all from Ohio. People magazine reported that
30:28
Speaker 1: Williams had posted images of the plane in his cockpit
30:31
Speaker 1: before the crash. The Metalcore band played pay tribute to
30:36
Speaker 1: Williams and Shapiro in an emotional May twenty second post
30:40
Speaker 1: shared on social media. Okay, how many people were on board?
30:45
Speaker 1: At least six people, including Shapiro and Williams, were on
30:48
Speaker 1: board the plane when it went down. FAA official side.
30:52
Speaker 1: As of May twenty third, the identities of the other
30:54
Speaker 1: passengers were not immediately known. Officials had not released the
30:59
Speaker 1: who the plane.
31:01
Speaker 2: So maybe that's why they said two people died. They
31:05
Speaker 2: haven't confirmed the identities of the others.
31:08
Speaker 1: Well, they're also saying that there was a recording it
31:13
Speaker 1: like a black box. Okay, the jet all and I
31:16
Speaker 1: guess not. The jet was not equipped with a flight
31:19
Speaker 1: data recorder, he said. Investigators are working to determine whether
31:23
Speaker 1: the craft had a cockpit voice recorder or whether it's
31:26
Speaker 1: engine had a flight recording ability.
31:30
Speaker 2: It's kind of ironic that you have recording executates on
31:33
Speaker 2: a plane that doesn't have recorder.
31:37
Speaker 1: Coincidence, coincidence. Okay, let's look at this MSN article that
31:41
Speaker 1: you just said.
31:45
Speaker 3: This one says six at the top for you.
31:51
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go over here. Where's the MSN? It has
31:58
Speaker 1: brought it over. I guess I gotta get rid of
32:02
Speaker 1: the screen share in order to be able to share.
32:05
Speaker 1: This thing is wacky. Okay, present chot screen what we
32:14
Speaker 1: know about the San Diego plane crash and the sixth
32:19
Speaker 1: on board who died? Okay? This shows a little bit
32:24
Speaker 1: more of the devastation there. Okay, killing six people on
32:29
Speaker 1: board and including groundbreaking alternative music executive Dave Shapiro. Is
32:36
Speaker 1: he related to Ben Shapiro.
32:38
Speaker 2: He's related to the star of David I would assume.
32:42
Speaker 1: Yeah. The crash stunned the heavy metal and rock scene
32:47
Speaker 1: as it grew out of the punk movement. The music agency,
32:50
Speaker 1: the Shapiro co founded Sound Talent Group represented groups like Pierceville,
32:55
Speaker 1: Parkway Drive, Some forty one and also venturing into more
32:59
Speaker 1: pop acts, which is Vanessa Carlton That's wanted to Drive too. Yeah.
33:06
Speaker 2: I was wondering if anybody in the plane lived in
33:08
Speaker 2: Laurel Canyon.
33:11
Speaker 1: I don't think so. A lot of the metalcore bands
33:14
Speaker 1: all came out of like Ohio, A large percentage of them.
33:19
Speaker 2: Well, I'm talking about the music executives.
33:21
Speaker 1: Though, oh yeah, probably, Yeah, this is a lot of devastation. Bro,
33:28
Speaker 1: looks like this whole neighborhood was just wrecked.
33:32
Speaker 2: It set fire to I think it set fifteen homes,
33:34
Speaker 2: sixteen homes, I'd read, although who knows fifteen twelve, eleven,
33:38
Speaker 2: one hundred, who knows. There's always a counting problem when
33:43
Speaker 2: these stories happen.
33:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, they can't even get their reporting accurate. It's crazy.
33:48
Speaker 1: The Federal Aviation Administration posted that an official notice that
33:51
Speaker 1: the airport's runway lights were out. A pilot did not
33:56
Speaker 1: discuss that with the controller, but did say that you
33:58
Speaker 1: knew it's whether alert systems were not working. Doesn't sound great,
34:05
Speaker 1: but we'll give it a go. Okay, Yeah, let's just
34:08
Speaker 1: you know, take this plane up without any of the
34:11
Speaker 1: runway lights on and without our weather control systems operating properly.
34:16
Speaker 3: Let's see that's going to go.
34:18
Speaker 2: If the guy just self identified as a pilot and
34:21
Speaker 2: there were conditions like that, then it makes sense that
34:23
Speaker 2: the plane probably didn't have a good chance of making
34:26
Speaker 2: it back down. If you don't have someone who's experience
34:28
Speaker 2: and knows what they're doing, if you don't have runway
34:31
Speaker 2: lights and if you're not necessarily sure how to I
34:36
Speaker 2: guess work the machine even when there are appropriate conditions
34:41
Speaker 2: and there's a pretty good chance you're gonna crash or
34:44
Speaker 2: something bad's going to happen. I don't think that that's
34:48
Speaker 2: part of a grander conspiracy.
34:51
Speaker 1: And here it is. The fog was so thick around
34:53
Speaker 1: the time of the crash you could barely see in
34:55
Speaker 1: front of you. That was the assistant San Diego Fire
34:58
Speaker 1: Department chief that made that comment. But this brings up
35:02
Speaker 1: another one that says the dudleiest US had its dudleiest
35:07
Speaker 1: plane crashing more than twenty three years in January, when
35:10
Speaker 1: the American Airlines passenger jet in an army helicopter collided
35:17
Speaker 1: in Washington in all sixty seven people aboard the two aircraft.
35:23
Speaker 1: That was a pretty weird one.
35:26
Speaker 3: That one I don't always extend.
35:31
Speaker 1: YEP. Last month, the sightseeing helicopter broke apart and crashed
35:36
Speaker 1: into the Hudson River. That was another really strange one.
35:40
Speaker 1: In early February, a small commuter plane crash in western Alaska,
35:45
Speaker 1: killing ten people aboard. Okay, but then here's the Philadelphia
35:49
Speaker 1: one that you were just mentioning. It's kind of weird. Dude,
35:53
Speaker 1: it's weird. I mean again, we know we just went
35:56
Speaker 1: over that. You know, crashes are down, there's nice, there's
36:00
Speaker 1: just as many crashes as there's always been in less fatalities.
36:04
Speaker 1: But it's like.
36:07
Speaker 2: Reporting, directionalizing of the public's attention to something like that.
36:12
Speaker 2: And it could be done for the same reason that
36:14
Speaker 2: the ultra extremist conspiracy theorists believe it's being done for.
36:19
Speaker 2: They believe that these planes or trains or whatever the
36:21
Speaker 2: case is are being intentionally crashed and people are being
36:25
Speaker 2: intentionally killed in order to convince the public not to
36:27
Speaker 2: fly or not to take modes of transportation. But you
36:31
Speaker 2: can do that by just exploiting accidents which are normal
36:36
Speaker 2: and are actually statistically down stuff that happens all the time.
36:39
Speaker 2: You can exploit that and create a narrative around it.
36:43
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what's happening, created a narrative to convince you
36:46
Speaker 2: that things are really, really bad when they're not really
36:48
Speaker 2: that bad. That's the problem with everything in the media.
36:53
Speaker 2: It's the same thing with I'll give you an example.
36:55
Speaker 2: I did a show Friday Night about the Real ID,
36:58
Speaker 2: which has been in the work since too on thousand
37:00
Speaker 2: and five, and it finally has been implemented at airports
37:04
Speaker 2: as of May seventh, and it's supposed to be your
37:08
Speaker 2: only identification. If you don't have it, then you have
37:12
Speaker 2: to have a passport or tribal ID to get through
37:14
Speaker 2: security at the airport. And they tell people that you're
37:17
Speaker 2: not going to be able to fly you have to
37:19
Speaker 2: have it. That's what the media says. But if you
37:21
Speaker 2: listen to what Christy Noam, the DHS Secretary says, or
37:24
Speaker 2: if you read the press release from the TSA, they
37:28
Speaker 2: actually say that you'll still be able to fly even
37:31
Speaker 2: if you don't have a real ID. You'll just maybe
37:33
Speaker 2: be subject to additional screening, maybe have to get in
37:37
Speaker 2: the second line, but you'll still be able to fly.
37:40
Speaker 2: But the narrative that the media created around the real
37:42
Speaker 2: ID is totally contrary to that. It's the same thing
37:45
Speaker 2: with masks, even if the governor's ordered during the pandemic
37:48
Speaker 2: said you don't actually have to wear it, or if
37:50
Speaker 2: you call the Health Department and say can they enforce
37:52
Speaker 2: this and the Health Department says no, no, no, no, it's
37:54
Speaker 2: on a law. You can't inform, you can't force people
37:56
Speaker 2: to do that. It's all voluntary. It's a recommendation. Try
37:59
Speaker 2: arguing with Walmart reader, Try arguing with your manager at work.
38:03
Speaker 2: It's the same kind of a thing with these plane crashes.
38:05
Speaker 2: Even if you can try to explain what's happening and
38:07
Speaker 2: it's logical and makes sense, try explaining that to someone
38:11
Speaker 2: who's hell bent on selling a narrative, whether it's that
38:14
Speaker 2: nothing's happening or that everything's happening and the illuminatis involved.
38:18
Speaker 2: I think people have just lost their collective damn minds
38:20
Speaker 2: across the board. I think that the public has been
38:24
Speaker 2: so brainwashed by propaganda and so misled by this and
38:29
Speaker 2: misinformation that nobody knows what to think, nobody knows how
38:34
Speaker 2: to think, and so they just choose whatever fantasy world
38:37
Speaker 2: is appealing to them, and that's where they choose to
38:40
Speaker 2: invest their energy. I mean, that's, frankly, just my opinion
38:42
Speaker 2: on the whole matter.
38:46
Speaker 1: That's what it is. It's confusion. If you put out
38:48
Speaker 1: enough nonsense, garbage and confuse people on it what exactly
38:54
Speaker 1: that they're supposed to believe, then it doesn't matter exactly
38:57
Speaker 1: what's going on because you have everyone so confus use
39:00
Speaker 1: that they they're just their brains are every which direction.
39:03
Speaker 1: They no longer know what to believe because there's so
39:07
Speaker 1: much nonsense garbage out there. Part of the problem is
39:13
Speaker 1: definitely a huge issue with that. But they love that, right,
39:18
Speaker 1: The government loves conspiracies. They're all on board with conspiracies now.
39:24
Speaker 1: They love it because guess what it does. It gives
39:28
Speaker 1: them the cover that they need to continue to do
39:33
Speaker 1: the real shit that they're doing.
39:36
Speaker 2: Just like in the sixties, seventies and eighties with UFOs,
39:39
Speaker 2: the military industrial complex benefited immensely from promulgating the UFO
39:45
Speaker 2: mythos because it was able to run a kind of
39:49
Speaker 2: cover story for their secret Cold War plane programs and
39:55
Speaker 2: Cold War experiments. Not that there isn't something act happening,
40:00
Speaker 2: but if you convince the public it's all just space aliens,
40:04
Speaker 2: well then you can fly things right over their head,
40:06
Speaker 2: do it in public, and the public is just going
40:09
Speaker 2: to think that it's an alien invasion and not ask
40:11
Speaker 2: any questions, or they're not going to think anything of
40:13
Speaker 2: it because they've been told that that kind of thing
40:15
Speaker 2: doesn't exist.
40:16
Speaker 3: It's really weird.
40:18
Speaker 2: It's kind of like the I'll give you another example,
40:22
Speaker 2: I think is something that's relevant. The executive order that
40:24
Speaker 2: the White House just approved about pharmaceutical drugs, and CNN
40:30
Speaker 2: says new executive order is going to cut pharmaceutical drug
40:33
Speaker 2: costs by eighty percent. But that's not what it does.
40:36
Speaker 2: If you read it, it doesn't matter if you support
40:38
Speaker 2: it or don't support it. But if you read it, it
40:40
Speaker 2: actually says it's going to strip all of well, there's
40:44
Speaker 2: actually two of them. There's an executive order on pharmaceutical
40:47
Speaker 2: drug prices and then there's an executive order from the
40:49
Speaker 2: White House more but directive about pharmaceutical manufacturing in the US,
40:54
Speaker 2: and both of them together they don't cut drug prices.
40:57
Speaker 2: And that drug companies suppose hate these executive orders, but
41:02
Speaker 2: they really benefit from them. If you actually read the order,
41:04
Speaker 2: as opposed to what someone might say online on either
41:08
Speaker 2: side of the aisle, it actually strips all the regulations
41:11
Speaker 2: from the pharmaceutical manufacturers. It strips the manufacturing and the
41:17
Speaker 2: construction of new facilities, all the regulations for that, and
41:21
Speaker 2: then it cuts out the pharmacies, and it cuts out
41:23
Speaker 2: the insurance companies as the middle men and women between
41:28
Speaker 2: the company that sells the drug and the American consumer.
41:31
Speaker 2: In other words, it allows for the company to sell
41:34
Speaker 2: drugs directly to the American people with no doctor's, no insurance,
41:38
Speaker 2: no pharmacy, just direct buisor to you, to your front door.
41:43
Speaker 2: And of course Pfiser loves that. Why are they telling
41:45
Speaker 2: people the drug companies don't like that. It's not going
41:48
Speaker 2: to lower drug prices. It's going to give the drug
41:50
Speaker 2: companies an even bigger monopoly. It's just like everything that
41:54
Speaker 2: we're told. And if you try to explain that to somebody,
41:57
Speaker 2: like I had an argument with somebody where I screenshotted
41:59
Speaker 2: the actual executive order and showed it to them, and
42:03
Speaker 2: they tell me I'm a libtard. It's like you can't.
42:07
Speaker 2: You cannot converse with people about almost anything anymore.
42:11
Speaker 3: Man.
42:11
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what side of the political aisle or
42:14
Speaker 2: the UFO aisle.
42:15
Speaker 3: People are just.
42:16
Speaker 2: Hell bent on believing what they believe, and they don't
42:18
Speaker 2: give a damn about the truth or about critical thinking.
42:22
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what the subject is. It's really demoralizing.
42:25
Speaker 1: Honestly, I really don't care about any of that because
42:30
Speaker 1: I'm never going to take another pharmaceutical drug ever again.
42:34
Speaker 1: And people are arguing about, oh, well, this is going
42:37
Speaker 1: to raise the prices this is going to lower the prices.
42:40
Speaker 1: Who cares? It's poison. It's all poison your body, Like,
42:45
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Who cares how much it
42:49
Speaker 1: is or how little it is. You shouldn't be on
42:51
Speaker 1: it in the first place.
42:53
Speaker 3: That's a great point.
42:53
Speaker 2: I did a whole show and that as a matter
42:55
Speaker 2: of fact, and that's exactly the underlying issue is that
42:58
Speaker 2: regardless of what something like that would do in terms
43:01
Speaker 2: at the price or in terms of selling directly to
43:03
Speaker 2: the public. I mean, okay, so there's a main lot
43:05
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what the story is. But in that
43:07
Speaker 2: particular case, so you have the White House's opinion and
43:11
Speaker 2: their statement, which is that it's supposed to lower drug costs.
43:14
Speaker 2: The media covers that and says, okay, it's supposed to
43:16
Speaker 2: lower drug costs. But people need their drugs, so we
43:20
Speaker 2: got to make sure people get their drugs. And they
43:22
Speaker 2: just sell you what the company tells them to sell you.
43:25
Speaker 2: They pay for those advertisements that are considered news articles.
43:29
Speaker 2: And then you have people that look at it and say, well,
43:33
Speaker 2: whether it's a good thing or not, I need to
43:36
Speaker 2: have my drugs or I'm going to have problems. And
43:38
Speaker 2: then there are people like you and I who sit
43:40
Speaker 2: off to the side and say exactly what you just said,
43:43
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. It's poison, and we spend the most
43:46
Speaker 2: money in the world. No country spends as much as
43:50
Speaker 2: the US does on drugs and healthcare, and yet we
43:54
Speaker 2: are the sickest in the world, and that also contributes.
43:58
Speaker 2: When you have a high demand, also contributes to high
44:01
Speaker 2: drug costs because it's a high demand for those drugs.
44:04
Speaker 2: Of course they're not going to be selling those drugs
44:05
Speaker 2: as much in countries like where I'm living now in Japan,
44:08
Speaker 2: because the population here is like four percent obese and
44:12
Speaker 2: relatively probably one of the healthiest in the world. So
44:15
Speaker 2: of course drugs aren't going to cost here. It costs
44:17
Speaker 2: more here. That's just basic economics, supply and demand. And
44:21
Speaker 2: sure there's exploitation of the American public in the American system,
44:27
Speaker 2: but again, like you just said, it's still poison and
44:30
Speaker 2: we shouldn't be arguing about how much the poison costs.
44:34
Speaker 2: That idea you can apply to any subject. It doesn't
44:37
Speaker 2: really matter if the plane crash was natural or if
44:40
Speaker 2: the Illuminati brought the plane down. What matters is the
44:43
Speaker 2: optics of the story. The truth does not matter. As
44:47
Speaker 2: many have said before, it's a post truth world, a
44:50
Speaker 2: post fact world, at least in the US. And what
44:54
Speaker 2: matters is the emotional response and how the optics can
44:57
Speaker 2: be trained to trick your perception into believing whatever it
45:01
Speaker 2: is that somebody wants to sell you, whether they're selling
45:04
Speaker 2: you aliens, or they're selling you drugs, or they're selling
45:07
Speaker 2: you the New World Order or whatever it is.
45:10
Speaker 1: And I'm going to put a caveat on that as well,
45:13
Speaker 1: like I'm personally not going to take any pharmaceutical drugs,
45:17
Speaker 1: but if pharmaceutical drugs help other people, then continue to
45:23
Speaker 1: do it. If you feel like that it is making
45:26
Speaker 1: a difference in your life, because sometimes I think I
45:29
Speaker 1: get it. I speak like other people shouldn't do it,
45:33
Speaker 1: Like that's your personal prerogative. Like if if you're on
45:36
Speaker 1: medications that helps you, you believe that it helps you,
45:40
Speaker 1: then continue to take it. I'm not telling anybody what
45:44
Speaker 1: to do, but for me, personally, I am not going
45:46
Speaker 1: to take any pharmaceutical drug ever again unless it's unless
45:51
Speaker 1: I really need it. Unless I really need it, like
45:55
Speaker 1: I'm deathly sick or something. Then I may possibly get
46:00
Speaker 1: in antibiotic. Who knows. There's always a aviat going on there.
46:05
Speaker 1: But when you're talking about these pharmaceutical companies and this stuff.
46:08
Speaker 1: I just made this post on Facebook here recently, and
46:14
Speaker 1: this is a chart which is a comparison of mental
46:17
Speaker 1: health prevalence and psychiatric treatment. Okay, so down here in
46:22
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty was the lowest that it's ever been. And
46:25
Speaker 1: as we go on throughout the years, more treatments become
46:30
Speaker 1: available for psychiatric care for mental health, more pharmaceuticals become
46:35
Speaker 1: available for psychiatric care and mental health, but yet we
46:40
Speaker 1: get more mentally unwell people every single year since the
46:46
Speaker 1: year of nineteen fifty. Now, make that chart make sense? Obviously,
46:51
Speaker 1: that work, Ryan. How do we have more care facilities
46:55
Speaker 1: for mental health? How do we have more treatments, more psychiatrists,
46:59
Speaker 1: more not parapsychiatrists, psychotherapists, more therapy centers, But yet we
47:08
Speaker 1: have been on a dramatic increase of mentally unwell people.
47:16
Speaker 2: I mean, the obvious answer to that rhetorical question is
47:18
Speaker 2: that it's a business. So the more that you can
47:22
Speaker 2: take natural behaviors and emotions and classify them as some
47:28
Speaker 2: sort of disease or some kind of ailment or some
47:31
Speaker 2: kind of illness. The more that you can create, manufacture,
47:35
Speaker 2: and market and sell drugs and other forms of quote
47:41
Speaker 2: treatments for people. That's why you'll never see those numbers
47:45
Speaker 2: go down, because if they go down, then the psychiatrists,
47:49
Speaker 2: the psychotherapists, the psychologists, etc. They lose just like cancer
47:55
Speaker 2: industry or just like any other industry, vaccine industries.
48:01
Speaker 3: Et cetera.
48:02
Speaker 2: They lose their cash cow. That's what it is. I mean,
48:08
Speaker 2: I'm telling you. If you look at the statistical data
48:10
Speaker 2: kind of like what you're shown on the screen, if
48:12
Speaker 2: you look at the statistical data likewise, you could probably
48:14
Speaker 2: compare You could probably add a third line and compare
48:17
Speaker 2: that to violent crime. Because in the United States, eighty
48:21
Speaker 2: percent of violent crime is not kind of linked to
48:27
Speaker 2: it is directly linked to drug use, and not just
48:32
Speaker 2: illicit drug use, but drug use in general. So everything
48:36
Speaker 2: from your pharmaceuticals that you get legally to the drugs
48:40
Speaker 2: that you might buy on the street. Eighty percent of
48:44
Speaker 2: America's crime problem is directly linked to drug use of
48:50
Speaker 2: one form or another. That's a major driving factor in crime.
48:55
Speaker 2: It's also a major driving factor in until illness. As
48:59
Speaker 2: a matter of act, you could look at the history
49:02
Speaker 2: of what is considered to be mental illness back before
49:06
Speaker 2: the nineteen fifties, maybe going back two three hundred years,
49:09
Speaker 2: and most culture's, most societies going back even further than that,
49:13
Speaker 2: saw that when people were acting strange or bizarre, maybe
49:16
Speaker 2: they attributed that to alcohol, they were possessed by the
49:19
Speaker 2: spirit the gin for example, or maybe they were crazy,
49:26
Speaker 2: they were mentally ill, they had like a legitimate problem,
49:28
Speaker 2: whatever that problem was, well, they would still say that
49:31
Speaker 2: person was possessed by a spirit. They were acting in
49:34
Speaker 2: a way that required an exorcism. And today we do
49:38
Speaker 2: something very similar with exorcisms. We exercised people with drugs
49:44
Speaker 2: and exercise people with vaccines, except we're not basing it
49:47
Speaker 2: on one or two people in society that are acting
49:50
Speaker 2: kind of strange. We're creating the conditions so that everybody
49:54
Speaker 2: has this need for an exorcist like product. Everybody is potent.
50:00
Speaker 2: Like with add what's add Your kid likes to climb
50:03
Speaker 2: like shiny things and it has a lot of energy.
50:06
Speaker 2: You just take natural human behaviors of children and adults.
50:10
Speaker 2: Are you happy? Are you sleepy? Do you have to
50:13
Speaker 2: go to the bathroom? Kind of like if you ever
50:15
Speaker 2: saw the Simpsons and the cat flu episode. You know,
50:18
Speaker 2: symptoms of the cat flu include mild hunger, being thirsty,
50:23
Speaker 2: being tired, just normal human experiences that they can label
50:29
Speaker 2: as a disease and then sell you a drug for it.
50:31
Speaker 2: So we have a lot of problems. One of the
50:33
Speaker 2: problems is the usage of the drugs. Another one of
50:36
Speaker 2: the problems is the labeling of natural behaviors as mental
50:43
Speaker 2: or physical illnesses that require drugs. I know that you're
50:47
Speaker 2: one of the few people that I'm either friends with
50:50
Speaker 2: or who I consider a colleague who is willing to
50:54
Speaker 2: even discuss the fact that, like with the pharmaceutical drugs,
50:57
Speaker 2: it's just generally poison And I think it should be
51:00
Speaker 2: obviously noted that some people, yes, it quote helps, but
51:05
Speaker 2: we have to consider that in America, we take more
51:08
Speaker 2: drugs than anybody else and we are the sickest. So overall,
51:11
Speaker 2: clearly the drugs are not helping us. They're making us sicker.
51:15
Speaker 2: They're driving that chart that's on the screen. They're making
51:19
Speaker 2: us more unhealthy in body and mind. And that can
51:23
Speaker 2: be statistically and even objectively verified by going to pretty
51:27
Speaker 2: much any other part of the world that does not
51:30
Speaker 2: use and abuse drugs like that. And I'm not talking
51:33
Speaker 2: just about Japan, although Japan's a great example because of
51:36
Speaker 2: how great the health is here. In general, it's cultural,
51:40
Speaker 2: it's familial, it's community based, it's common sense based, it's
51:44
Speaker 2: portion controlled. And when you have the total opposite of
51:46
Speaker 2: that in drugs and food and alcohol and everything else,
51:50
Speaker 2: you get a population of very sick, mentally ill, brain
51:54
Speaker 2: dead people. And frankly, that's what the United States is.
51:57
Speaker 2: I'm an American citizen. I am ashamed of America. Not
52:00
Speaker 2: because of wars necessarily, or because of Trump or some
52:04
Speaker 2: stupid crap like that. I'm ashamed because my country is
52:08
Speaker 2: a nation of drug addicts. It's a nation of people
52:11
Speaker 2: that are sick and diseased and proud of it. And
52:15
Speaker 2: what I was getting at by saying that, you're one
52:17
Speaker 2: of the very few people that I know as a
52:18
Speaker 2: friend or colleague who will talk about things like this,
52:21
Speaker 2: like the drugs. We still argue over things like viruses
52:26
Speaker 2: and bacteria. Yeah, like a bacteria can make you sick.
52:30
Speaker 2: But most of the time, what's making us sick. It's
52:32
Speaker 2: our diets, it's our lifestyles. It's the staring at plane
52:36
Speaker 2: crashes and thinking I know the Illuminati did this because
52:39
Speaker 2: there's two wings on the plane, and two is one
52:42
Speaker 2: of the numbers the Illuminati likes. It's just like crazy
52:45
Speaker 2: mentally ill stuff, and it's it may It makes me
52:49
Speaker 2: feel just uncomfortable to watch it or to even talk
52:51
Speaker 2: about it anymore. I don't know what it's even become.
52:55
Speaker 2: It's it's it's mental illness across the board, but it's
52:57
Speaker 2: it's artificial. It's been manufactured because if you look at
53:00
Speaker 2: the rest of the world, the rest of the world
53:02
Speaker 2: doesn't live and doesn't act like this, and those facts
53:06
Speaker 2: can be correlated directly with drug use, with diets, and
53:11
Speaker 2: with other similar things, including access to media and social media.
53:16
Speaker 1: If I was a tenfoil hat conspiracy theorist, I would
53:23
Speaker 1: say that they are intentionally creating mentally ill people by
53:32
Speaker 1: reclassifying the parameters of what a mentally ill person is,
53:39
Speaker 1: just like they try to reclassify everything else whenever it
53:44
Speaker 1: comes to their benefit. Okay, and we see that with
53:51
Speaker 1: the adderall and the Riddlin that's given the children, which
53:55
Speaker 1: came directly out of the MK Ultra programs THO that
53:59
Speaker 1: was tested it on MK Ultra subjects before it was
54:02
Speaker 1: ever given to the public amphetamine. Okay, they were using
54:08
Speaker 1: that on MK ultra test subjects before they ever gave
54:13
Speaker 1: it to the public. And then what did they do.
54:16
Speaker 1: They immediately roll it out to your kids. They get
54:21
Speaker 1: the kids hooked on it first. And that's what Uri
54:24
Speaker 1: Buzman off his main thing, the KGB defector. I know,
54:29
Speaker 1: I keep bringing them up, but it's so freaking important,
54:31
Speaker 1: and I've been ramming it into the ground, but it's
54:34
Speaker 1: really important because that is exactly that's the whole basis
54:38
Speaker 1: of everything that he said, is that if we control
54:42
Speaker 1: the school system, if we control the kids, if we
54:44
Speaker 1: control the information of what the kids are getting, then
54:48
Speaker 1: in two decades we are going to have control of
54:53
Speaker 1: everything because those people grow up and the things that
54:57
Speaker 1: they are indoctrinated with, the things that they have normalized,
55:01
Speaker 1: is going to become the new thing to do. And
55:06
Speaker 1: that is exactly what they've done. They pumped it communist
55:11
Speaker 1: ideas into young kids in school. Now those kids went
55:16
Speaker 1: to college, they propagated those ideas, and now those people
55:20
Speaker 1: that were in college in the eighties are now running
55:23
Speaker 1: the United States. They are in positions of power. And
55:27
Speaker 1: that's just the example that he gave communist Marxist Leninism
55:34
Speaker 1: ideas being pumped into the school systems.
55:37
Speaker 2: I think there's a very real piece of information in
55:43
Speaker 2: what you said in relation to the plane crashes, because yes,
55:46
Speaker 2: plane crashes are down, and yes people dying are statistically down.
55:50
Speaker 2: But where there are incidents like with this guy in
55:53
Speaker 2: San Diego who I guess identified as a pilot and
55:56
Speaker 2: then crashed and didn't really know what he was doing.
55:59
Speaker 2: That kind of ignorance, that kind of arrogance and ego,
56:04
Speaker 2: that kind of just stupidity, quite frankly, that drives almost
56:12
Speaker 2: everything that we see, everything that we touch, everything that
56:15
Speaker 2: we hear. That's what social media is, that's what the
56:18
Speaker 2: mainstream media is. That's what politics are, at least in
56:22
Speaker 2: the United States. It's just a constant bombardment of the stupidest, dumbest,
56:29
Speaker 2: most absurd crap that humanity can produce. It's just mostly
56:35
Speaker 2: gage garbage in and garbage out, and so you have
56:40
Speaker 2: largely a population of people who, I mean, this is
56:44
Speaker 2: all really scary. I think I mentioned this the last
56:46
Speaker 2: time I come on. In the United States, seventy roughly
56:50
Speaker 2: seventy nine percent of the country is literate. That means
56:54
Speaker 2: twenty one percent of Americans, and sure a large portion
56:58
Speaker 2: of that are people that have come to the country
57:01
Speaker 2: from places that don't have even moderate education systems. That's
57:05
Speaker 2: part of it, but that's not the entirety of it.
57:08
Speaker 2: That means twenty one percent or not literate. And then
57:11
Speaker 2: of the seventy nine percent who are literate, up to
57:14
Speaker 2: fifty percent of the seventy nine percent can't read above
57:17
Speaker 2: a sixth grade level. And then the United States above
57:21
Speaker 2: every other nation depending on the drug we're talking about,
57:25
Speaker 2: the US is like first place in the usage and
57:28
Speaker 2: the distribution of like amphetamines, opioids, marijuana, and the list
57:34
Speaker 2: just goes on on. The only country that comes close
57:36
Speaker 2: is like Germany and Australia for certain kinds of drugs.
57:41
Speaker 2: But when you look at Eastern Asia, like could be China, Japan, Taiwan,
57:47
Speaker 2: the usage of these kinds of substances or the distribution
57:49
Speaker 2: of them is like virtually nothing. It's like less than
57:52
Speaker 2: one percent. I think the highest I saw in one
57:55
Speaker 2: Asian country was four percent, and we're talking about the
57:58
Speaker 2: whole population. In the US, opioids are given out. I
58:02
Speaker 2: think it's fifty out of I can't remember the exact time,
58:07
Speaker 2: it's like fifty percent of the United States of citizens
58:11
Speaker 2: are on opioids. That's like, that's double the amount in
58:15
Speaker 2: any other country in the world. And that absolutely has
58:18
Speaker 2: something to do with what happened in Afghanistan with the poppy,
58:21
Speaker 2: the opium fields, and the Taliban and the US military.
58:24
Speaker 2: Without a doubt, it's double the amount of that. I
58:27
Speaker 2: think it's depending on the country you compare it to.
58:29
Speaker 2: If you compare it to most Asian countries, it's like
58:32
Speaker 2: double or triple the amount of anthetamines. It's like double
58:36
Speaker 2: or triple the amount of marijuana. It's like double or
58:38
Speaker 2: triple the amount of virtually everything, again with the exception
58:42
Speaker 2: of some European countries or maybe Australia that are relatively comparable,
58:46
Speaker 2: but still not that comparable. So what I'm getting at
58:49
Speaker 2: here is if you have a country that has been sabotaged,
58:52
Speaker 2: you have people that can't read at all, or people
58:55
Speaker 2: that on average choose not to read and can't read
58:57
Speaker 2: above a certain level, people that on average. The US
59:01
Speaker 2: spends so much money on healthcare, and we are leading
59:03
Speaker 2: the world in categories, we don't want to lead the
59:06
Speaker 2: world in infant mortality, mother mortality, obesity, diabetes, heart disease, cancer,
59:14
Speaker 2: We're like the sickest and dumbest people on planet Earth.
59:18
Speaker 2: And it's no wonder why some people dislike Americans, because
59:21
Speaker 2: as the sickest, dumbest people on planet Earth, we run
59:23
Speaker 2: around telling everybody we're the healthiest and we're the most
59:26
Speaker 2: intelligent and American number one fu It's not that I
59:30
Speaker 2: hate America. It's just that Americans need to realize that
59:33
Speaker 2: these problems are not universal. These problems are very centralized
59:38
Speaker 2: and a part of that centralized problem.
59:40
Speaker 3: Just like with UFOs.
59:42
Speaker 2: Yes there's UFOs in Russia, Yes there's UFOs in China,
59:45
Speaker 2: Japan and all over the world. But like as you know, writer,
59:49
Speaker 2: a lot of the UFO community makes the UFO issue
59:52
Speaker 2: a American issue, and outside of the borders of America,
59:56
Speaker 2: it unless you're like a UFO historian, it like virtually
59:59
Speaker 2: does doesn't exist. Maybe Randallsham gets a mention, but it
1:00:03
Speaker 2: really just doesn't exist outside the borders of the country.
1:00:06
Speaker 2: I think that is a problem that has result that
1:00:08
Speaker 2: is a result of media. It's a result of politics,
1:00:12
Speaker 2: not just with of course you have fos, but a
1:00:14
Speaker 2: result of you know, the drug use, the unhealthy lifestyles
1:00:18
Speaker 2: and diets, the corporate interest in government, all of these
1:00:21
Speaker 2: things contribute to these facts. There is a huge problem,
1:00:26
Speaker 2: and that problem is it might sound completely unrelated to
1:00:31
Speaker 2: the plane crash problem, but I think it's directly related
1:00:35
Speaker 2: because if you have a population that can't read, can't debate,
1:00:40
Speaker 2: doesn't have a diet or a lifestyle that is contributing
1:00:45
Speaker 2: to overall mental clarity and physical health. I mean, all
1:00:49
Speaker 2: of that eventually leads to somebody that you can show
1:00:53
Speaker 2: them the physical proof and they don't like they physically,
1:00:56
Speaker 2: I don't think mentally have the capacity to understand it.
1:00:59
Speaker 2: And I don't I don't mean that in a bad way,
1:01:01
Speaker 2: but man, there are some people that are like mega
1:01:03
Speaker 2: people that I've shown physical that's not true the executive order,
1:01:07
Speaker 2: I show it to the my screenshot at highlighted You're
1:01:10
Speaker 2: just a libtard. And these are people I've known for
1:01:13
Speaker 2: a long time. And I'm thinking, not just some random person.
1:01:16
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking, like I thought you were like an
1:01:19
Speaker 2: intelligent individual.
1:01:21
Speaker 1: Is it.
1:01:21
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's stupidity or I started thinking
1:01:24
Speaker 2: maybe they just don't even have the capacity to read it.
1:01:26
Speaker 2: Or to understand it. They would prefer to be in
1:01:28
Speaker 2: a cult. They would prefer to listen to whatever they're
1:01:31
Speaker 2: told and just believe it, like the libtrds do. Again,
1:01:34
Speaker 2: this is not a problem outside of the US and
1:01:37
Speaker 2: a lot of countries. It's a problem that we need
1:01:39
Speaker 2: to fix, and the only way we're going to fix
1:01:41
Speaker 2: it is by bringing back real conversations like this and
1:01:44
Speaker 2: by using critical thinking skills. And also I think we
1:01:48
Speaker 2: need to stop using the bite sized bits of information
1:01:53
Speaker 2: that are out of context. We need to bring back
1:01:55
Speaker 2: long form discussions and actually have debates where we can
1:02:00
Speaker 2: agree and disagree, and stop making everything about tribal warfare,
1:02:03
Speaker 2: and that includes the plane crash stuff too.
1:02:08
Speaker 1: Well. That's the problem now, is that today's generation of
1:02:10
Speaker 1: people can't sit down because they don't have the attention
1:02:13
Speaker 1: span to even watch this hour long video. So in
1:02:17
Speaker 1: order for me to get the attention of people, I
1:02:21
Speaker 1: have to cut these discussions down into one minute clip
1:02:26
Speaker 1: in order in hopes, in hopes Ryan, that they will
1:02:31
Speaker 1: click the link to the full video and listen to
1:02:34
Speaker 1: the entire thing, which your majority of them don't. Okay,
1:02:37
Speaker 1: but that's that is a major problem. And then I
1:02:39
Speaker 1: get a lot of flak for the things that are
1:02:43
Speaker 1: not in the one minute clip, and I'm like, you
1:02:46
Speaker 1: realize this is just a minute clip of like almost
1:02:50
Speaker 1: two hour long conversation.
1:02:53
Speaker 2: Than the one minute clip, because you cut it so
1:02:55
Speaker 2: that means that you're covering it up that kind of thing.
1:02:58
Speaker 1: That's what they say, that's what they say. I've gotten
1:03:00
Speaker 1: so many of those comments, like you didn't mention blah
1:03:03
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah, you didn't say that that
1:03:06
Speaker 1: this person was involved in that thing. And I'm like, bro,
1:03:10
Speaker 1: this is a one minute clip of a very long
1:03:13
Speaker 1: conversation that I had about this. If you would just
1:03:15
Speaker 1: click on the link that is attached to this clip,
1:03:21
Speaker 1: or if you take five seconds to go to the
1:03:23
Speaker 1: description or go to the link that's in the profile
1:03:27
Speaker 1: and go to my channel or listen to it on
1:03:29
Speaker 1: the podcast, you'll probably hear what you're trying to correct
1:03:34
Speaker 1: me on. I try and cover a lot all my
1:03:38
Speaker 1: basis when I'm talking about something, but no, there it's
1:03:41
Speaker 1: just at you, at you, at you. But it's interesting
1:03:44
Speaker 1: that you bring up Germany and how Germany is probably
1:03:47
Speaker 1: one of the other countries that is on a lot
1:03:49
Speaker 1: of pharmaceutical medications because Germany is where a lot of
1:03:53
Speaker 1: these medications originated.
1:03:55
Speaker 3: From Oral to Germany.
1:03:58
Speaker 1: A lot of them came from there, and they were
1:04:01
Speaker 1: tested on the Nazi soldiers of that time, and a
1:04:05
Speaker 1: lot of the pain medication that Hitler was on came
1:04:09
Speaker 1: from a doctor that he had, and then whenever they
1:04:12
Speaker 1: all got transferred through Project paper Clip in nineteen I
1:04:17
Speaker 1: think that was in nineteen forty five or nineteen forty
1:04:19
Speaker 1: seven around in that area, they then took that chemical compound.
1:04:24
Speaker 1: It was called something completely different, and then they took
1:04:27
Speaker 1: that chemical compound and then they made morphine in the
1:04:31
Speaker 1: United States based off of the concoction from Nazi Germany.
1:04:38
Speaker 1: Might be getting some of the story wrong there, but
1:04:42
Speaker 1: it was also like oxy codone, so they turned like
1:04:45
Speaker 1: that stuff in the oxy codone and then they sold
1:04:48
Speaker 1: it to the public. But Nazi Germany they were doing
1:04:52
Speaker 1: all kinds of crazy stuff with drugs. They had one
1:04:55
Speaker 1: drug that was like it was like a freaking speedball
1:04:58
Speaker 1: dude that had like in fe to mean inn in
1:05:01
Speaker 1: cocaine in the equivalent of like what we call oxy
1:05:05
Speaker 1: codon now, all like wrapped up into one. I think
1:05:08
Speaker 1: they called it like DXI or something like that. It's
1:05:12
Speaker 1: hard to remember off the top of my head, but
1:05:15
Speaker 1: they were doing it. Then we got those scientists, and
1:05:19
Speaker 1: then we started doing it here.
1:05:23
Speaker 2: I've always I don't know if you want me to
1:05:25
Speaker 2: comment on that, because I think I have a lot
1:05:27
Speaker 2: to say, But I've always wondered how I understand what
1:05:31
Speaker 2: you're saying. And it's certainly true much of this comes
1:05:34
Speaker 2: out of the drug companies Ig Farbin, bay Er, etc.
1:05:40
Speaker 2: Ig Farbin was even selected to be protected from Allied
1:05:43
Speaker 2: bombing during the final days of the war. They made
1:05:46
Speaker 2: sure that the drug company was protected from the bombing raids.
1:05:49
Speaker 2: That's nice and convenient kill the civilians, but let's make
1:05:52
Speaker 2: sure the drug company's protected. But I've always thought that
1:05:57
Speaker 2: there was something like that happening in the twenties, and
1:05:59
Speaker 2: I was always one wondering if in the thirties that
1:06:01
Speaker 2: hasn't been exaggerated in order to cover up what was
1:06:05
Speaker 2: happening in the twenties, And because the Nazis initially were
1:06:09
Speaker 2: highly opposed to all those kinds of things, they were
1:06:12
Speaker 2: trying to help the country recover from the devastation of
1:06:15
Speaker 2: the drugs and the prostitution. The pornography of the nineteen twenties,
1:06:19
Speaker 2: and then all we hear about is the horrible, you know,
1:06:21
Speaker 2: drugs that Hitler did, which he ended up being like
1:06:24
Speaker 2: a drug addict to some extent, to some degree, and
1:06:28
Speaker 2: they were certainly putting soldiers on those kinds of drugs
1:06:31
Speaker 2: on the front line. But I wonder if that's not
1:06:33
Speaker 2: kind of like the kamikazi story in Japan, where people
1:06:37
Speaker 2: think that the Japanese were just inherently kamikazi pilots, but
1:06:41
Speaker 2: what actually happened was that the Japanese resorted to kamikazi
1:06:47
Speaker 2: actions in limited cases toward the end of the war
1:06:50
Speaker 2: because they were out of resources, and they saw it
1:06:53
Speaker 2: at well some I'm sure there were some pilots that
1:06:56
Speaker 2: didn't agree with it or ran away, but most of
1:06:59
Speaker 2: them saw it as an national duty and an honorable
1:07:02
Speaker 2: thing to do that, to to continue to defend Japan.
1:07:05
Speaker 2: It wasn't a national policy from the beginning. It was
1:07:09
Speaker 2: something that happened in the last in the last days
1:07:11
Speaker 2: when the war was over. And I assume that that's
1:07:14
Speaker 2: probably what happened with the Germans too, that during the
1:07:16
Speaker 2: last days when it was pretty much over, that's when
1:07:20
Speaker 2: they really started pumping the tank operators and others full
1:07:23
Speaker 2: of these drugs. But then again, also I also thought, well,
1:07:28
Speaker 2: hold in a second, we say that to kind of
1:07:30
Speaker 2: like vilify the Nazis, but then like the United States government,
1:07:33
Speaker 2: the Chinese government even to this day, my god, look
1:07:36
Speaker 2: at the stuff China's doing. Man, China's putting m R
1:07:39
Speaker 2: and A vaccines and soldiers. They're openly creating super soldiers
1:07:42
Speaker 2: in China. That's all over international news. They break about it.
1:07:45
Speaker 3: Same thing.
1:07:46
Speaker 1: They can they time travel, though.
1:07:49
Speaker 2: We'll have to ask Corey good. I'm not sure that
1:07:51
Speaker 2: that'll come out of the next disclosure project. But I mean, look,
1:07:54
Speaker 2: look at the United States.
1:07:55
Speaker 3: We did.
1:07:56
Speaker 2: In fact, I think there's an episode of The X
1:07:57
Speaker 2: Files based on the sleep deprivation and the super soldier
1:08:01
Speaker 2: program in Vietnam.
1:08:03
Speaker 3: It's like we did.
1:08:04
Speaker 2: We did the same exact thing. Anyway, that's there's a
1:08:08
Speaker 2: whole show. There's a whole show there. But I just
1:08:10
Speaker 2: think that in the twenties there was a major drug
1:08:13
Speaker 2: problem in Germany and the US and China.
1:08:17
Speaker 3: Look at the stuff the Russians.
1:08:18
Speaker 2: My god, the Russians are cutting dogs heads off and
1:08:20
Speaker 2: pumping it full of machines and tubes and then keeping
1:08:24
Speaker 2: the dogs head alive. I just the whole stuff with
1:08:27
Speaker 2: the Nazis and drugs. I just think it needs to
1:08:29
Speaker 2: be the door needs to be open there so we
1:08:31
Speaker 2: can see.
1:08:31
Speaker 3: That's it's the whole.
1:08:32
Speaker 2: It's like every government, every country, and we still do
1:08:35
Speaker 2: it today. What the Japanese did with a unit set
1:08:39
Speaker 2: was at unit seventy three one the biological experiments, which
1:08:41
Speaker 2: is crazy stuff that every country has done. And yeah,
1:08:45
Speaker 2: a lot of it is. Yeah, definitely, since is centered
1:08:48
Speaker 2: in Germany in the same way that a lot of
1:08:51
Speaker 2: companies still are today, and a lot of companies are
1:08:53
Speaker 2: centered in the US, and that's probably why the US
1:08:55
Speaker 2: and Germany have some of the highest uses. As you
1:08:58
Speaker 2: were saying, so the highest uses of these substances that
1:09:02
Speaker 2: we have, we have like no regulation of the industry.
1:09:05
Speaker 2: We have regulators that regulate the law as opposed to
1:09:10
Speaker 2: regulating the companies that they're supposed to regulate.
1:09:13
Speaker 3: That that's a different story.
1:09:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't like necessarily mean that nobody else was
1:09:19
Speaker 1: doing it. I just meant that like Germany like created
1:09:24
Speaker 1: a lot of these drugs. I don't believe that methanphetamine
1:09:27
Speaker 1: was a thing before World War Two and before they
1:09:32
Speaker 1: were given and there definitely wasn't these other types of
1:09:35
Speaker 1: painkiller compounds. They didn't come out until like later. I
1:09:39
Speaker 1: don't know, I have to do more looking into it,
1:09:43
Speaker 1: but I believe. And that doesn't mean that the entire
1:09:47
Speaker 1: population of Germany was on drugs either. I mean they
1:09:50
Speaker 1: could have just been, you know, feeding it directly to
1:09:53
Speaker 1: their soldiers. But let's go over this before I let
1:09:58
Speaker 1: you go. Let's do these trained you and stuff real quick,
1:10:01
Speaker 1: because there was the We've covered the boats, we covered
1:10:05
Speaker 1: the planes, we covered the helicopters. The first train derailment
1:10:12
Speaker 1: that I could remember. I don't know if you remember
1:10:15
Speaker 1: this one, but this was also This was in twenty
1:10:17
Speaker 1: twenty two where a former sam Pedro train engineer was
1:10:23
Speaker 1: sentenced to three years in prisident for derailing a locomotive
1:10:29
Speaker 1: near the US Navy hospital ship.
1:10:32
Speaker 2: What was the reasoning given? Do you remember?
1:10:36
Speaker 1: This was all around q Andon. This was a QE
1:10:39
Speaker 1: guy that he was trying to bring attention to the
1:10:45
Speaker 1: Mercy ship that was there for the stuff, and he
1:10:52
Speaker 1: believed that they that there was children being rescued from
1:10:56
Speaker 1: the underground. The underground bases, and he wanted to bring
1:11:03
Speaker 1: attention to what was going on, so he tried to
1:11:08
Speaker 1: derail the train and crash it into the Mercy Ship.
1:11:12
Speaker 3: Wow, I actually did.
1:11:14
Speaker 2: I kind of remember hearing that in passing, but I
1:11:17
Speaker 2: don't remember anything about this story. That's that's that's the
1:11:20
Speaker 2: story though. What you just said that he was a
1:11:22
Speaker 2: cute person and he believed that he could help, I guess,
1:11:26
Speaker 2: free the children by derailing this train and crashing it.
1:11:30
Speaker 1: That was what was told to me by his best
1:11:33
Speaker 1: friend that I met in California during this time that
1:11:41
Speaker 1: he was He thought that he was going to get
1:11:44
Speaker 1: charges put against him as well for this.
1:11:48
Speaker 2: It's you know what that reminds me of. That reminds
1:11:50
Speaker 2: me of back in the nineties when the FBI set
1:11:52
Speaker 2: up the First World Trade Center terrorist The FBI used
1:11:57
Speaker 2: to and they still do. Most of the terrorist plots
1:12:01
Speaker 2: that are foiled or set up by the Federal Bureau
1:12:03
Speaker 2: of Investigation, they always, essentially always have been it's like
1:12:07
Speaker 2: eighty ninety percent or something. It's a crazy percentage. Most
1:12:11
Speaker 2: of them three quarters of the base minimum. And I
1:12:14
Speaker 2: was talking about that on my show Friday as well,
1:12:18
Speaker 2: and in hearing what you just said about the QAnon thing.
1:12:21
Speaker 2: If that's actually true and that's actually accurate, then it
1:12:25
Speaker 2: looks like it's a new form of FBI and trapment,
1:12:30
Speaker 2: if you will, because instead of going and creating these
1:12:35
Speaker 2: terrorists and these lone gunmen and these lone bombers, et cetera,
1:12:39
Speaker 2: and training them and giving them weapons and telling them
1:12:42
Speaker 2: or telling them that's a test and then the bomb
1:12:44
Speaker 2: actually goes off, you know, whatever the case might be.
1:12:48
Speaker 2: I think that we've kind of evolved from that to
1:12:51
Speaker 2: being able to create people like this on the Internet
1:12:55
Speaker 2: and being able to, like with Paul Benowitz, feed people
1:12:59
Speaker 2: information through their emails or through their social media, or
1:13:02
Speaker 2: through their even maybe even phone calls, but using something
1:13:06
Speaker 2: like QAnon to create individuals like this, like that crazy
1:13:10
Speaker 2: guy that went to the Planet Ping Pong Bing Bong
1:13:14
Speaker 2: pizza restaurant with a rifle and was going to help
1:13:16
Speaker 2: free the kids that Hillary Clinton was eating in the basement.
1:13:20
Speaker 2: Remember that guy. It's a very similar thing to this,
1:13:23
Speaker 2: if that story is true, of what you said, similar
1:13:25
Speaker 2: to this train de relment. It's like going back to
1:13:28
Speaker 2: the planes and the question of whether or not something
1:13:30
Speaker 2: suspicious is happening. Well, that is a suspicious thing. If
1:13:34
Speaker 2: the FBI or the CIA, or the NSA or some
1:13:36
Speaker 2: other group or the Pentagon is behind creating these kinds
1:13:40
Speaker 2: of low nuts based on these whacked out conspiracies of QAnon,
1:13:45
Speaker 2: then they're creating chaos. They're sabotaging airlines or trains. They're
1:13:53
Speaker 2: just not doing it in the traditional ways of how
1:13:56
Speaker 2: we might think they're doing it. They're doing it through
1:13:58
Speaker 2: proxies like the FBI has with terrorists. Does that make
1:14:02
Speaker 2: any sense?
1:14:05
Speaker 1: Makes sense? And I believe that guy whenever he told me,
1:14:09
Speaker 1: because he was in fear of being prosecuted as well,
1:14:12
Speaker 1: because apparently he was the one that got this guy
1:14:17
Speaker 1: into the q stuff. So he thought that the FBI
1:14:22
Speaker 1: was going to come after him because they were going
1:14:25
Speaker 1: to trace all of his information and his text messages
1:14:28
Speaker 1: and look at his computer and his social media and
1:14:30
Speaker 1: see where he got a lot of this information to
1:14:33
Speaker 1: be able to derail the train to hit the Mercy ship.
1:14:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably not easy.
1:14:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I have one believed him, And I remember
1:14:46
Speaker 1: I had heard a few few other people talking about
1:14:48
Speaker 1: it after it had happened, But this one was kind
1:14:50
Speaker 1: of brushed under the rug. It didn't make national news.
1:14:54
Speaker 1: It was kind of only in California that this kind
1:14:59
Speaker 1: of hit the news. And then it was gone, like
1:15:01
Speaker 1: within a week, it was gone. No one talked about
1:15:04
Speaker 1: it anymore. But I thought that that was an important
1:15:07
Speaker 1: one to bring up.
1:15:08
Speaker 3: What was the guy, Let's see if we can find him.
1:15:12
Speaker 1: Here, Eldronto Moriano. I don't know what are you probably
1:15:22
Speaker 1: pronounced Moriano?
1:15:26
Speaker 2: I I was just wondering what his name was. I
1:15:28
Speaker 2: looked up the other guy, Edgar Madison Welsh, the guy
1:15:31
Speaker 2: that took the rifle to the pizza place.
1:15:37
Speaker 1: He calls almost a million dollars in damages, seven hundred
1:15:41
Speaker 1: and fifty five thousand dollars in damages. Yeah, that's a
1:15:46
Speaker 1: big one. And then the of course the Ohio train
1:15:51
Speaker 1: de RealMed here why is this not showing up a
1:15:54
Speaker 1: here in the seconds East Palestine? And uh train derailment
1:16:06
Speaker 1: which happened in twenty twenty three, So I think we're
1:16:09
Speaker 1: I think it's about time for another train accident. What
1:16:12
Speaker 1: do you think.
1:16:14
Speaker 3: Maybe a couple of years.
1:16:17
Speaker 2: You know, what's a really kind of fun thing to do, writer,
1:16:20
Speaker 2: I would encourage all of your listeners to do this,
1:16:23
Speaker 2: encourage you to do it.
1:16:24
Speaker 3: I do it too.
1:16:25
Speaker 2: Look up plane crashes, trained derailments, even boat accidents. Just
1:16:31
Speaker 2: look them up for random parts of the world. So
1:16:33
Speaker 2: like you could type in plane crash, train train derailment
1:16:36
Speaker 2: except in Russia, or do the same thing in Australia,
1:16:40
Speaker 2: or the same thing in like I don't know, the Philippines,
1:16:44
Speaker 2: and see how many stories you can find from different
1:16:47
Speaker 2: parts of the world that have no American media coverage
1:16:53
Speaker 2: or like maybe very limited coverage. Just one story that
1:16:56
Speaker 2: is published and it disappears it's like an ap wire
1:16:59
Speaker 2: or something. But look up those with those keywords and
1:17:04
Speaker 2: find and I'm sure you can find a bunch of them.
1:17:07
Speaker 1: Uh In.
1:17:07
Speaker 2: I know you can't because I've done it, and how
1:17:09
Speaker 2: they're not being reported, and how if you did report them,
1:17:13
Speaker 2: it would make the if there was a conspiracy, would
1:17:16
Speaker 2: make the conspiracy a lot more solid. But I think
1:17:20
Speaker 2: that because it's not being reported, it shows you an
1:17:23
Speaker 2: example of how in the US we cover these things
1:17:27
Speaker 2: so heavily to create narratives and optics. But listen, there's
1:17:33
Speaker 2: wildfires in South Korea. There's how there's wildfires in Japan
1:17:36
Speaker 2: right now, there's like no news coverage of it. They
1:17:39
Speaker 2: handle it and it's done. There were some of the
1:17:41
Speaker 2: biggest wildfires South Korea ever had the last couple of
1:17:45
Speaker 2: months in terms of acres burned. There was South Korean
1:17:49
Speaker 2: media coverage, a couple stories here in Japan, but for
1:17:52
Speaker 2: the most there was like no coverage of that in
1:17:55
Speaker 2: the US. And that's a favorite of ours writer, I know,
1:17:58
Speaker 2: because of the directed in weapons. When there's a fire
1:18:01
Speaker 2: in Colorado or California, it's dew's. When there's a fire
1:18:05
Speaker 2: in South Korea, it's nobody cares. And I just think
1:18:10
Speaker 2: we need to consider these things, like there are trained
1:18:12
Speaker 2: toralments in Russia, there are trained derailments in Asia, there
1:18:15
Speaker 2: are trained erailments in other parts of the world, and
1:18:18
Speaker 2: plane crashes, and it's funny how in those parts of
1:18:23
Speaker 2: any other part of the world it's just an accident,
1:18:26
Speaker 2: or maybe it's suspicious sometimes, but most of the time
1:18:29
Speaker 2: it's an accident or an act of God an active nature.
1:18:32
Speaker 2: But in the US, every fire is a dw every
1:18:35
Speaker 2: plane crashes the Illuminati, every trained derailment is because of
1:18:40
Speaker 2: Q andons. It just seems weird to me when you
1:18:44
Speaker 2: contrast that with the rest of the world.
1:18:47
Speaker 1: It is really strange and there's no other explanation other
1:18:50
Speaker 1: than the government loves conspiracies. They've let it get off
1:18:54
Speaker 1: so far out of hand that there's no putting a
1:18:57
Speaker 1: lid back on it, and they just got a roll
1:19:00
Speaker 1: the freaking punches, just like there's no putting a lid
1:19:02
Speaker 1: back on extraterrestrial life because they've let it gets so
1:19:06
Speaker 1: far ridiculously out of hands, spreading so many rumors, misinformation
1:19:10
Speaker 1: and disinformation that they can't go back on it now,
1:19:13
Speaker 1: So they kind of have to just roll with the
1:19:15
Speaker 1: punches and sort of double down on it, just like
1:19:20
Speaker 1: people view with their own beliefs on the internet, posing
1:19:26
Speaker 1: what they believe, they doubled down even harder on their
1:19:30
Speaker 1: regular position.
1:19:32
Speaker 2: Yes, what do you think ultimately about the plane crashes
1:19:37
Speaker 2: and the trains and the boats. What do you personally think?
1:19:44
Speaker 1: I think that it's there. I think that they're doing
1:19:48
Speaker 1: something with making it a popular thing to like to
1:19:53
Speaker 1: report on. Now, Now what that reason why they would
1:19:57
Speaker 1: be doing then is a whole other narrative. I don't
1:20:02
Speaker 1: know why they would be doing that, But it's kind
1:20:05
Speaker 1: of strange that all of a sudden, like these helicopter crashes,
1:20:09
Speaker 1: these plane crashes, these trained derailments are very popular things
1:20:15
Speaker 1: to report on and they last a long time in
1:20:19
Speaker 1: the news cycle. Besides the one that I just brought up,
1:20:22
Speaker 1: it was like a week and it was like completely gone.
1:20:27
Speaker 1: But the real ID thing is completely ridiculous. They've been
1:20:33
Speaker 1: talking about the real ID for a really long time.
1:20:36
Speaker 1: That's been going on for like ten years now. I've
1:20:39
Speaker 1: had a real ID for around seven years because California
1:20:44
Speaker 1: required you to have a real idea. You couldn't get
1:20:47
Speaker 1: a different kind of ID. You can only get the
1:20:49
Speaker 1: real ID, and California was one of the first people
1:20:52
Speaker 1: to implement that policy, so I already knew that that's
1:20:57
Speaker 1: where it was going. So the whole thing that they
1:20:59
Speaker 1: don't want you to travel, they don't want you to fly,
1:21:01
Speaker 1: they don't want you to do all that is bogus.
1:21:04
Speaker 1: If they're relating that to the real ID stuff that
1:21:07
Speaker 1: has been in the making and in the works for
1:21:09
Speaker 1: a really long time, that was just going to be
1:21:11
Speaker 1: the way that it is. There's no getting around that.
1:21:15
Speaker 1: But I do think that it's just a tad strange
1:21:18
Speaker 1: that they're all of a sudden propping up and making
1:21:23
Speaker 1: these accidents on all accounts. Besides a few of them
1:21:28
Speaker 1: that's more interesting than just an accident. They're making these
1:21:31
Speaker 1: really big, like national stories and national wide stories, and
1:21:39
Speaker 1: it's just interesting to me. And fear obviously cells. I mean,
1:21:44
Speaker 1: there's nothing butt fear on the news. That's the way
1:21:46
Speaker 1: that it's been since the twenty four New twenty four
1:21:49
Speaker 1: hour news cycle. It has just been nothing butt fear.
1:21:52
Speaker 1: Hit people with fear, get them scared, get them confused,
1:21:56
Speaker 1: misreport a bunch of things. We just looked at the
1:21:58
Speaker 1: article where I said that six people were killed and
1:22:01
Speaker 1: later I said two people were killed. The article from
1:22:03
Speaker 1: the people that were escaping from the jail was ten people.
1:22:07
Speaker 1: Other people said that it was eleven people. The Virginia
1:22:10
Speaker 1: Giffrey case had several speeds that the bus was going
1:22:15
Speaker 1: whenever it hit her vehicle. Some was reporting eighty miles
1:22:18
Speaker 1: per hour, some sixty miles per hour, someone was forty
1:22:20
Speaker 1: miles per hour. The driver of the bus said that
1:22:22
Speaker 1: it was going like thirty miles per hour. Everyone had
1:22:24
Speaker 1: a different story when it comes to this stuff. So
1:22:27
Speaker 1: it's like it's it's fear and as propaganda as what
1:22:32
Speaker 1: I think is going on, And for some reason, these
1:22:36
Speaker 1: types of stories of major incidents are being widely reported
1:22:41
Speaker 1: nationally now when there was probably the same amount of
1:22:45
Speaker 1: them that was happening before, but nobody cared because it
1:22:50
Speaker 1: wasn't reported.
1:22:50
Speaker 2: On I think that we're relatively on this mostly on
1:22:54
Speaker 2: the same page. That's I think that they're creating a
1:22:57
Speaker 2: narrative or up, they're creating optics around it to make
1:23:00
Speaker 2: it seem that way. I mean, look at this story
1:23:03
Speaker 2: just sent you. There's an incident in Russia of a
1:23:06
Speaker 2: train crash. Here is another one of a train crash.
1:23:12
Speaker 2: I just typed in train crash, Russia train crash, in
1:23:14
Speaker 2: Australia train crash. You can find them all over the world,
1:23:18
Speaker 2: whether this year, last year, the year before. Like how
1:23:22
Speaker 2: many people knew about the Russian train crash that happened
1:23:25
Speaker 2: last year. I didn't even know that until I just
1:23:29
Speaker 2: looked it up. Just there's always more context to this stuff,
1:23:36
Speaker 2: and we need to understand that context matters, and that
1:23:40
Speaker 2: we need to be a little less trigger happy on
1:23:45
Speaker 2: the extremist conspiracy stuff because that plays right into the
1:23:51
Speaker 2: hands of the intelligence agencies and plays right into the
1:23:55
Speaker 2: hands of the media.
1:23:56
Speaker 3: The people that profit off of those types.
1:23:58
Speaker 1: Of but they also have us in a double. They
1:24:04
Speaker 1: can hit us with a double double with that too, though, Ryan,
1:24:07
Speaker 1: they can. The time that we that everyone collectively decides
1:24:14
Speaker 1: that it's not a conspiracy is going to be when
1:24:19
Speaker 1: it's a real conspiracy. Right, it's a it's a flip
1:24:22
Speaker 1: flopping thing. They can go whichever direction they want to
1:24:26
Speaker 1: go with it because they have everyone exactly where they
1:24:30
Speaker 1: want them. So everything that people are seeing that is conspiracies,
1:24:34
Speaker 1: probably there's there's another explanation to it. But then as
1:24:40
Speaker 1: soon as everyone says this isn't real, this isn't fake,
1:24:45
Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't going, then it's the opposite because
1:24:49
Speaker 1: they can do that because they know what people. It's
1:24:52
Speaker 1: like if we were to release a like, everybody wants
1:24:55
Speaker 1: the proof of extraterrestrials, right Ryan, they want the smoking gun,
1:24:59
Speaker 1: they want the video the Aliens landing in the in
1:25:02
Speaker 1: the UFO landing in the Aliens getting out. Okay, let's
1:25:05
Speaker 1: say someone had a real video of that. There was legit,
1:25:09
Speaker 1: no CGI, thing wasn't blurred, all real, no special effects,
1:25:14
Speaker 1: and they posted that online. How do you think people
1:25:17
Speaker 1: are going.
1:25:18
Speaker 2: To react same way they react with anything else. It's fake,
1:25:23
Speaker 2: that's right? Well, I mean There's a great example of that,
1:25:26
Speaker 2: I think in the very very very famous calviing UFO photo.
1:25:31
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know about the Calvin UFO photo.
1:25:34
Speaker 2: I can send you a link to it. This is
1:25:36
Speaker 2: considered one of the most credible UFO photos ever taken.
1:25:40
Speaker 1: It was just and someone found it in their dolls Gray.
1:25:45
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was a desk or a box.
1:25:46
Speaker 2: I forget exactly where it was found, but it's It
1:25:49
Speaker 2: was a British journalist, David Clark who found it, and
1:25:54
Speaker 2: he was he'd worked as a curator for the National
1:25:58
Speaker 2: Archives in Britain and found this photo. Again it was
1:26:02
Speaker 2: re released. It's basically it shows an unidentified flying object
1:26:07
Speaker 2: and there's a military craft near it. It's not The
1:26:11
Speaker 2: thing about photos like this, and I sent you a
1:26:14
Speaker 2: link in your private chat, is that there's no like
1:26:19
Speaker 2: big movement around it, like Louis Ella Zondo's fucking irrigation circle,
1:26:27
Speaker 2: and there's no big movement to discredit it. But it's
1:26:32
Speaker 2: just there. And these are the kinds of things that
1:26:35
Speaker 2: I think are probably a lot more accurate and true,
1:26:39
Speaker 2: but nobody really tries to prove it or discredit it.
1:26:42
Speaker 2: It just kind of sits there out in the open.
1:26:45
Speaker 2: Nobody recognizes I guess the value of it.
1:26:49
Speaker 1: That's because when something is real, literally nobody cares about it.
1:26:54
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the exact same way that I felt
1:26:56
Speaker 1: about the UFO or the strange thing that I seen
1:26:59
Speaker 1: in my back yard with the military grade night vision
1:27:01
Speaker 1: goggles that look like a boomerang that have showed on
1:27:04
Speaker 1: the show several times that I seen it. It's not
1:27:07
Speaker 1: a doctored video. I seen it with my own eyes,
1:27:11
Speaker 1: captured it on military grade night vision goggles. But no
1:27:13
Speaker 1: one gives a shit about that.
1:27:15
Speaker 2: George Noy doesn't want to have you on Coast to
1:27:17
Speaker 2: coast to talk about that photo.
1:27:19
Speaker 1: Come on, he should. Everyone should be all over it.
1:27:24
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. It's a freaking boomerang
1:27:26
Speaker 1: flying through the sky.
1:27:28
Speaker 2: That's fine, it's because I don't want to use on
1:27:31
Speaker 2: your show name specific names. But you know, you have
1:27:34
Speaker 2: to struggle to get access to go to a UFO
1:27:36
Speaker 2: conference when you have something like that. But people that
1:27:39
Speaker 2: make crap up get first class, first rate tickets and access.
1:27:42
Speaker 3: It's just so ridiculous.
1:27:46
Speaker 1: It is ridiculous. And that's the thing is that whenever
1:27:48
Speaker 1: something real happens. People are not good. They don't know
1:27:52
Speaker 1: the difference because there's so much fake nonsense garbage out
1:27:55
Speaker 1: there and this idea that everything is fake and everything
1:27:59
Speaker 1: is staged and everything is a play and not taking
1:28:03
Speaker 1: things like like you mentioned in earlier in this episode,
1:28:07
Speaker 1: you know, everything should be analyzed and scrutinized on a
1:28:11
Speaker 1: case by case basis.
1:28:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you all, you of course don't want to
1:28:15
Speaker 2: get do it, to do that kind of thing to
1:28:17
Speaker 2: the extent that you lose all touch with the possibility
1:28:22
Speaker 2: of something extraordinary. You always have to try to maintain
1:28:25
Speaker 2: that middle ground when you're doing that. You saw, I know,
1:28:28
Speaker 2: you saw that picture of Louis Elisondo's UFO and he
1:28:32
Speaker 2: even admitted that he didn't vet the guy. He admitted
1:28:37
Speaker 2: that he didn't have any evidence the photo was real.
1:28:41
Speaker 2: He just shared it and then doubled down on the photo.
1:28:45
Speaker 2: And it's like clearly an irrigation circle. And somebody even
1:28:49
Speaker 2: on the internet even went to Google maps and found
1:28:52
Speaker 2: it and then took it and compared it to his photo,
1:28:55
Speaker 2: which had been blown out and the contrast and whatnot
1:28:58
Speaker 2: had been changed on it. To me, it look like
1:29:00
Speaker 2: it was an actual shadow of a Craft like so
1:29:04
Speaker 2: fake that even some of the UFO people that support
1:29:07
Speaker 2: Louis Alazonda were like, man, what are you doing? This
1:29:10
Speaker 2: picture is so it's just like faker than CG. It's horrible,
1:29:16
Speaker 2: And that kind of thing is what gets attention.
1:29:20
Speaker 3: I call it.
1:29:21
Speaker 2: You call it conspiracy capitalism. In a way, it's just
1:29:24
Speaker 2: profiteering off of people's willingness or unwillingness to believe something,
1:29:30
Speaker 2: which is why I think that ultimately, deep down, the
1:29:33
Speaker 2: people that want disclosure, just as an example, people want disclosure.
1:29:38
Speaker 2: People who want disclosure the least I think are the
1:29:41
Speaker 2: people that are pushing for disclosure because if you get
1:29:44
Speaker 2: quote disclosure, suddenly Jeremy Corbel isn't walking through conferences with
1:29:50
Speaker 2: five camera angles on it. He's not as popular because
1:29:54
Speaker 2: he's not the focal point of getting disclosure. Once you
1:29:57
Speaker 2: get it, he's just another name. Once you get it,
1:30:02
Speaker 2: he's not important anymore. Same with Stephen Greer. If you
1:30:05
Speaker 2: get disclosure, well then everybody knows about the aliens. Now
1:30:09
Speaker 2: you don't need to buy a five thousand dollars laser
1:30:12
Speaker 2: to talk to the aliens and the government and do it.
1:30:15
Speaker 3: Everybody can do it.
1:30:17
Speaker 2: That's the problem, is that nobody ultimately wants within those
1:30:20
Speaker 2: fields or communities there to be some revelation of the truth.
1:30:23
Speaker 2: I think it's the same thing with the trains and planes.
1:30:25
Speaker 2: You can show people the statistical data, but people are
1:30:28
Speaker 2: profiting off of the conspiracy, whether it's financial or it's energetic.
1:30:34
Speaker 2: I think more so in the case of government and agencies.
1:30:39
Speaker 1: I would agree with that very heavily. I think that
1:30:43
Speaker 1: that is exactly what's going on. I mean, if you
1:30:46
Speaker 1: take away the boogeyman, if you take away the mystical
1:30:51
Speaker 1: aspect and the belief, and then everybody has access to it.
1:30:55
Speaker 1: I mean that goes back to like the church right
1:30:58
Speaker 1: used to be the priest and bishops and cardinals and
1:31:01
Speaker 1: these people were the only ones that had access to God. Okay,
1:31:05
Speaker 1: you didn't have access to God, so you got to
1:31:08
Speaker 1: pay me money so I can communicate with God on
1:31:11
Speaker 1: your behalf. Hey, when the Bible says something completely different
1:31:16
Speaker 1: than that, and the Bible says that we can all
1:31:18
Speaker 1: communicate with God, but nobody thought that they could, so
1:31:22
Speaker 1: then they just kept giving their money to these bishops
1:31:24
Speaker 1: and priests and stuff so that they can communicate with God.
1:31:27
Speaker 1: It's the exact same type of way with what's going
1:31:31
Speaker 1: on within the community. Like these certain people are the
1:31:35
Speaker 1: ones that has all the information. They're the only ones
1:31:37
Speaker 1: that has the right information, and if you don't listen
1:31:41
Speaker 1: to them, then you're a part of the problem.
1:31:44
Speaker 2: Then you find out some of those people that are
1:31:46
Speaker 2: on social media that are the big accounts, the people
1:31:49
Speaker 2: that could be right wing as much as the left wing.
1:31:52
Speaker 2: Turns out they're being paid by soda companies or they're
1:31:56
Speaker 2: being paid by foreign countries. Like my god Pool met
1:32:01
Speaker 2: with Benjamin and Yahoo.
1:32:02
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?
1:32:04
Speaker 2: These are influencers. These are commentators meeting with world leaders,
1:32:09
Speaker 2: being paid by soda companies to promote soda and not
1:32:13
Speaker 2: have it stripped from the Snap program. It's just a
1:32:16
Speaker 2: giant joke. I know how much you struggle. You put
1:32:20
Speaker 2: in so much time and effort making you know your clips,
1:32:23
Speaker 2: are making videos, and I see that. Yes, sometimes you'll
1:32:26
Speaker 2: have a couple thousand things here or there, but these
1:32:29
Speaker 2: people don't have to do anything. They could post a
1:32:31
Speaker 2: picture of their toe and they'd have fifty thousand people
1:32:35
Speaker 2: that liked it, and they'd get a million dollars in
1:32:37
Speaker 2: donations because there's something cryptic about the toenail. It's just
1:32:41
Speaker 2: so stupid. It's so stupid. It's scripted, it's all paid for,
1:32:47
Speaker 2: it's organized. None of these people are real, including the
1:32:51
Speaker 2: big conspiracy people. They're not real, and if they ever
1:32:54
Speaker 2: were real, the narrative is shifted, changed, goalposts have been.
1:33:03
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. I would agree with that. Yeah,
1:33:06
Speaker 1: I think that you hit the nail on the head.
1:33:08
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be posting toe photos from now on, Ryan,
1:33:11
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give me some nice old toe photos.
1:33:13
Speaker 2: That's how Marina Sarenn makes her money. She's a foot
1:33:15
Speaker 2: princess on OnlyFans, but.
1:33:19
Speaker 1: Princess the UFO cash baby.
1:33:23
Speaker 2: Yes, that's where the money is. But hey, again, all
1:33:26
Speaker 2: those things relate back to the train and the plane
1:33:29
Speaker 2: and the boats because those stories are handled in the
1:33:32
Speaker 2: same way that the UFO stories are handled. They're handled
1:33:35
Speaker 2: in the same way that any other conspiracy is handled.
1:33:39
Speaker 3: I mean, my god.
1:33:40
Speaker 2: I just one other example is it's like it's like
1:33:43
Speaker 2: the Joe Biden stuff. Suddenly now there's books being written.
1:33:47
Speaker 2: He had he had an illness, he wasn't all there
1:33:50
Speaker 2: in the head during his presidency, and they were building
1:33:54
Speaker 2: fake sets for him so that he could take the
1:33:56
Speaker 2: COVID shot. We knew that anyway. They were building fake
1:34:00
Speaker 2: sets so that he could have town halls that nobody
1:34:02
Speaker 2: showed up to. And like, that's just mainstream news now.
1:34:06
Speaker 2: But if I said that six months ago, band censored,
1:34:10
Speaker 2: kicked off, demonetized, et cetera. But now it's on CNN
1:34:13
Speaker 2: and now. But what gets me about it is that
1:34:16
Speaker 2: the general there's like no rebellion from the general public.
1:34:20
Speaker 2: The people that denied that was happening just kind of
1:34:23
Speaker 2: ignore the fact that now they're being told that it
1:34:26
Speaker 2: was real. He was sick the whole time. They used
1:34:29
Speaker 2: the auto pen. They had a fake White House set,
1:34:31
Speaker 2: they had a fake town hall set, like a Hollywood set.
1:34:36
Speaker 2: It was all a joke.
1:34:37
Speaker 1: Do you remember before the election, whenever the White House
1:34:41
Speaker 1: officials came out and said that Biden was sharp as attack,
1:34:45
Speaker 1: that he's sharper than he's ever been before.
1:34:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, never, this is this is this is prime Biden.
1:34:52
Speaker 1: Prime Biden prime. Whenever he fumbled through the freaking the
1:34:58
Speaker 1: twenty twenty debates. If you didn't realize that something was
1:35:03
Speaker 1: wrong with him in the twenty twenty debates, him and
1:35:05
Speaker 1: then he was president.
1:35:06
Speaker 2: Anyway, It's amazing you sit and you say those things
1:35:13
Speaker 2: to people because you're watching reality, and they just refuse
1:35:17
Speaker 2: to believe it. And then after all these years, none
1:35:20
Speaker 2: of those people come back and say, well, you were right.
1:35:24
Speaker 2: It's classic misdirection across the board and every issue, every subject,
1:35:31
Speaker 2: and again even something like UFOs. Look at that Calvin photo.
1:35:36
Speaker 2: How many people have ever seen that compared to the
1:35:39
Speaker 2: nonsense that Louis Alizondo has put on the internet in
1:35:42
Speaker 2: the last.
1:35:42
Speaker 1: Month or then mins or the tik tank.
1:35:47
Speaker 3: Yeah there's another thing.
1:35:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, you hear those stories over and over and over
1:35:50
Speaker 2: and over and over and over and over again. I mean,
1:35:52
Speaker 2: my god, how much stuff does that and how long
1:35:54
Speaker 2: ago were those were those videos actually taken a long
1:35:57
Speaker 2: time ago, more than a decade ago, I think, And
1:36:00
Speaker 2: at least the Tiktac case, what about literally thousands of available,
1:36:07
Speaker 2: not to mention probably hundreds of thousands that you could
1:36:10
Speaker 2: dig for or have Foyer requests for, of documents after
1:36:15
Speaker 2: documents after documents Like I'm not saying I believe everything
1:36:19
Speaker 2: he wrote, but read a book by Timothy Good read
1:36:22
Speaker 2: his book Top Secret. He pulled records from like military
1:36:28
Speaker 2: archives all over the world going back to the freaking thirties.
1:36:33
Speaker 2: It's every country has massive records of this stuff that
1:36:37
Speaker 2: you can get access to that he prints in the book.
1:36:40
Speaker 2: It's not a new book either, there's an older book
1:36:42
Speaker 2: and there's the files just right there. And it's like,
1:36:46
Speaker 2: I remember when the twenty seventeen thing happened with a
1:36:49
Speaker 2: tip and I had read just one of many books
1:36:52
Speaker 2: I've read on UFOs, but I read Timothy Goods book
1:36:54
Speaker 2: and I'm sitting there literally writer, I'm reading the article
1:36:57
Speaker 2: and I was thinking, wait a minute, And I got
1:36:59
Speaker 2: the Timothy Goode bok and I'm holding it in my hand,
1:37:01
Speaker 2: and I'm like, there are hundreds of documents just in
1:37:05
Speaker 2: this book alone. And then there's this a tip article
1:37:09
Speaker 2: and suddenly everybody's talking about UFOs. I bought this book
1:37:12
Speaker 2: for nine dollars at a used bookstore, and it's all
1:37:15
Speaker 2: like official records from the US and South America, et cetera,
1:37:19
Speaker 2: and Russia. Like what I got this article from the
1:37:23
Speaker 2: New York Times or I've got the actual records and
1:37:25
Speaker 2: they're telling us in the New York Times. It's like
1:37:27
Speaker 2: one program and then there's like some tic TACs or something,
1:37:31
Speaker 2: but here's all the records, So like the camera's on this,
1:37:36
Speaker 2: but the records are over here, and they keep telling
1:37:39
Speaker 2: people about the tic TACs. It's like there's so much
1:37:41
Speaker 2: more stuff that it's just it's totally available. You can
1:37:45
Speaker 2: get access to it everywhere. It's the same thing with healthcare.
1:37:48
Speaker 2: You can't sell sleep more, drink more water, and eat
1:37:53
Speaker 2: basic even if they're conventional to standard, basic, simple foods.
1:37:58
Speaker 2: You can't sell that. There's not a broccoli lobby, there's
1:38:03
Speaker 2: a tobacco lobby. There's not an asparagus lobby. But there's
1:38:06
Speaker 2: a cigarette and an alcohol and a sugar and a
1:38:09
Speaker 2: meat and this and of that lobby. That's it's just
1:38:14
Speaker 2: wholly corrupt to the core, it is.
1:38:21
Speaker 1: And don't know how we're gonna get out of it,
1:38:24
Speaker 1: but I hope that we do. I got our fingers
1:38:27
Speaker 1: my fingers crossed. Everyone should have their fingers cross and
1:38:30
Speaker 1: we all should be just doing better individually. We should
1:38:34
Speaker 1: be trying to better ourselves and better our health individually,
1:38:39
Speaker 1: and then hopefully that rubs off onto more people and
1:38:42
Speaker 1: then we get a healthier population to where we're not
1:38:46
Speaker 1: constantly bombarded by all of the nonsense garbage and off
1:38:50
Speaker 1: of the medications as much as we possibly can, and
1:38:54
Speaker 1: I think that we would see things start to heal up.
1:38:57
Speaker 1: But Ryan, thanks so much for coming on bro O.
1:39:00
Speaker 1: They're really appreciate. You can a lot of people know
1:39:02
Speaker 1: where to find you online. Yep.
1:39:05
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1:39:09
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1:39:16
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1:39:19
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1:39:26
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1:39:29
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1:39:33
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1:39:37
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1:39:40
Speaker 2: you see X has like a thousand followers or something,
1:39:43
Speaker 2: people have asked me, why don't you have more followers
1:39:46
Speaker 2: You've done this fifteen years. Well, it's because I've been
1:39:48
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1:39:51
Speaker 2: kicked off YouTube, so I don't really have much of
1:39:54
Speaker 2: a social media presence. Because of that, and I don't
1:39:56
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1:39:58
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1:40:00
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1:40:04
Speaker 3: Rarah.
1:40:05
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on. I hope that the conversation
1:40:08
Speaker 2: went well for you and the audience enjoyed.
1:40:11
Speaker 1: Hey man, I only have like eight one hundred and
1:40:14
Speaker 1: seventy five followers on accent. I've had it for five years,
1:40:18
Speaker 1: and I don't even haven't even broke a thousand friends
1:40:22
Speaker 1: on Facebook. I've also had it for five years.
1:40:25
Speaker 2: So maybe you should share irrigation circles that you took
1:40:29
Speaker 2: pictures of. Actually that irrigation circles in Colorado. Maybe you
1:40:32
Speaker 2: could check it out the next time you visit Colorado.
1:40:35
Speaker 1: Oh well, I'll go there get some pictures of that
1:40:40
Speaker 1: underground base that's really a sewage drainage pipe. All right, brother,
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