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2024 Primary Election Results: Part Two · Crosstabs

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SPEAKER_01: We're cleared to engage.
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SPEAKER_01: Time on target, 5 miles.
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SPEAKER_00: Here we go to the legislature.
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SPEAKER_00: Now,
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SPEAKER_00: in episode two,
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SPEAKER_00: we covered a lot of these legislative primaries,
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SPEAKER_00: and I'm looking at this,
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SPEAKER_00: and all the bold names pretty much are the ones who won here,
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SPEAKER_00: Brian.
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SPEAKER_00: Let's take a look and start.
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SPEAKER_00: I think we'll start out in the House.
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SPEAKER_00: House District 8, Lisa Fragula versus Doyle Canning.
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SPEAKER_00: I think people thought this was going to be a close one, Brian.
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SPEAKER_00: A lot of things this race was close, not one of them.
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SPEAKER_01: Ain't that the truth.
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SPEAKER_01: I think it was interesting because this was,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: this seat had so much intensity right with the recall and everything.
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SPEAKER_01: And then for it to really turn into just kind of a nothing burger is pretty interesting.
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SPEAKER_00: I think Doyle is sort of one of those people who belongs to like the...
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SPEAKER_00: There's a little bit of a squad vibe in Oregon,
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SPEAKER_00: and Doyle sort of belongs to it.
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SPEAKER_00: The people that she thanked in her thank you email that I read the other day.
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SPEAKER_01: This is the one that... So DeFazio came back out of the woodwork and just plowed Doyle Canning, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Because she filed against him one time in a primary.
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SPEAKER_01: And this is where...
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SPEAKER_01: You know,
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SPEAKER_01: you kind of got to watch what you do sometimes,
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SPEAKER_01: I guess,
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SPEAKER_01: if you're a candidate running for office,
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SPEAKER_01: because it can.
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SPEAKER_01: And if you just kind of, oh, it'll be fun to run for Congress.
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SPEAKER_01: Ding, ding, ding on somebody.
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SPEAKER_01: And then that person came back to running TV ads against you in some lonely little state rep race.
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SPEAKER_01: So I don't know if it was that, but I think there is a machine in Lane County for Democrats down there.
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SPEAKER_01: That's for sure.
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SPEAKER_01: And she was not part of it.
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SPEAKER_00: I think we should call it the Holvey machine, Brian.
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SPEAKER_00: He's sort of the patriarch of that situation up there with his 90-10 recall victory.
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SPEAKER_00: And this, I mean, close margin to that, 73-26 is pretty rough.
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SPEAKER_00: But not as rough as it got for some others here.
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SPEAKER_00: We're scrolling down to the 12th Republican primary.
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SPEAKER_00: Darren Harvick versus incumbent Charlie Conrad.
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SPEAKER_00: Not only was this a healthy victory for Harvick, Conrad got destroyed 17% for the incumbent Republican.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure I've seen an incumbent get that low of a number in my entire political history, Brian.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was really, it might be the lowest an incumbent's ever gotten.
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SPEAKER_01: And we don't have to look that up because that 17% is...
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, 1200 people.
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SPEAKER_01: Those are probably 1200 people.
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SPEAKER_01: I think that Jim Moore was talking about that knew who they're voting for when they showed up.
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SPEAKER_01: They were intentional.
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SPEAKER_01: I thought I'm guessing there.
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SPEAKER_01: I think that, you know, I hope that Harvick will be a good candidate.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, I've had the pleasure of meeting him a couple of times.
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SPEAKER_01: I think he'll be a good guy.
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SPEAKER_01: I didn't do anything on this race.
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SPEAKER_01: I think Ride the Life really flexed their muscles in this race a little bit.
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SPEAKER_01: And I think that Charlie really underestimated
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SPEAKER_01: the value of what,
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SPEAKER_01: what kind of litmus tests that we have in the Republican party and,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: right to life and guns are probably the two.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'd say really at the top of that these days is just right to life.
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SPEAKER_01: I think that that's a,
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SPEAKER_01: I think you could even overcome a gun issue because our gun groups in this state
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SPEAKER_01: are horrible that try to hold people accountable for gun stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, you know how horrible Kevin stared as a holding people accountable for crap.
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SPEAKER_01: So I think that right to life is just a way different scenario where they said,
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SPEAKER_01: well,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: we're going to put our money where our mouth is.
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SPEAKER_01: And they had I think they had a good candidate, too.
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SPEAKER_01: I think that really helps when you have a quality candidate like Darren that that
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SPEAKER_01: stepped up and just said,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: this is not what I want representing me.
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SPEAKER_01: the communities over here of what, you know, Eastern Lane County kind of groups over there.
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SPEAKER_01: It's pretty conservative.
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SPEAKER_01: I think that Charlie was mistaken by the four-way primary that he won two years ago
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SPEAKER_01: and thinking that a centrist mentality was what people wanted in that district.
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SPEAKER_01: And I think that's probably where
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SPEAKER_01: he maybe went wrong, but I don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't think Charlie's a bad guy.
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SPEAKER_01: I think that he just made a very bad decision and a bad vote and was not willing to
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SPEAKER_01: understand the ramifications of that bad vote and wasn't really coming to terms
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SPEAKER_01: with it.
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SPEAKER_01: And like I said,
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SPEAKER_01: I think when we talked about this race,
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SPEAKER_01: I said,
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SPEAKER_01: at least now he can say he's a former state representative.
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SPEAKER_00: Brian, I think also there you just look at that and you go, you really need to respond.
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SPEAKER_00: When voters are telling you something,
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SPEAKER_00: when you're getting that response back,
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SPEAKER_00: I mean,
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SPEAKER_00: I know he was getting a hard time right after that vote.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean,
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SPEAKER_00: it took a while for them to actually get the candidate and all that stuff,
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SPEAKER_00: and there was plenty of time for him to come off of it and say,
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SPEAKER_00: you made a mistake,
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SPEAKER_00: and I think that would have made that race closer if he had admitted that.
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SPEAKER_00: But he wasn't willing to admit it, so he goes down.
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SPEAKER_00: with the ship next close race this one's still considered too close to call i still
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SPEAKER_00: think house district 16 sammy versus sarah i think sarah finger mcdonald is likely
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SPEAKER_00: you'd rather be her than sammy but i will tell you brian the trend is in the blue
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SPEAKER_00: counties the progressive harder left votes come late and in the red counties the
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SPEAKER_00: conservative votes show up late
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SPEAKER_00: So there's a chance that Sammy catches up and turns this one into a ballot curing battle.
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SPEAKER_00: So we'll keep an eye on this one.
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SPEAKER_00: But it's the closest primary in the state, I think.
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SPEAKER_01: Were we split on this one?
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SPEAKER_01: Didn't I take Sammy and you took Sarah?
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SPEAKER_00: I forgot to note who you took.
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SPEAKER_01: Because I think I went with my conventional wisdom that the white liberals will
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SPEAKER_01: choose the name they can't pronounce.
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SPEAKER_00: Looking like a decent prediction there, Brian.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm with you.
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SPEAKER_01: I'd rather have a 200 vote lead, you know, then there'll be the one behind.
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SPEAKER_01: There's no doubt about it.
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SPEAKER_01: Especially this late in the game, 10,000 votes, probably the next update.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't think there's 200 ballots out there, 10,000 votes on a primary and,
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SPEAKER_01: In a state rep race, I can't imagine there's 200 more ballots out there.
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SPEAKER_01: So if I were predicting this, I'd say that your next state representative there is Sarah Finger McDonald.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's Rayfield's district in Corvallis.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's definitely a blue district, very progressive, very university-ish.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's going to have a lot of those professors voting and stuff in that district.
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SPEAKER_01: you know, and a very high turnout.
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SPEAKER_01: Actually, probably one of the higher turnouts that we saw.
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SPEAKER_01: But that's what happens when you get some contested issues like this,
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SPEAKER_01: especially in a concentrated area like Corvallis,
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SPEAKER_01: where a lot of people are going to turn out.
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SPEAKER_01: It makes it really easy for them to do it, to vote.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: Because they're just in Corvallis and it's just the city.
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SPEAKER_01: There's not like even Charlie Conrad's.
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: district where we were just talking about is,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: she's,
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SPEAKER_01: you're going from blue river all the way up to almost to Corvallis,
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SPEAKER_01: right.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like junction city and stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: So yeah, huge swaths of land, which is just a lot harder for people to vote.
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SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: We'll see.
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SPEAKER_00: From the river to the sea, Oregon State University will be free.
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SPEAKER_00: Is that what you're telling me, Brian?
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SPEAKER_00: That's pretty good.
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SPEAKER_01: Did you come up with that one?
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SPEAKER_01: Or did you write that before we started?
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SPEAKER_00: No,
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SPEAKER_00: I just came up with it because I'd gotten a text from somebody the other day who
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SPEAKER_00: was at the campus and was taking a picture of the tents.
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SPEAKER_00: And they said the Free Palestine Movement has officially taken over one-eighth of an acre.
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SPEAKER_00: And I asked if that was large enough for a Palestinian state.
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SPEAKER_00: um so i uh anyway just some humor there to keep people uh engaged on this stuff uh
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SPEAKER_00: now we go up to portland house district 33 maxine dexter's leaving this district
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SPEAKER_00: and what i thought was going to happen here did happen shannon jones isidor uh or
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SPEAKER_00: isidore i'm not sure exactly how it's pronounced
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SPEAKER_00: wins with 51% of the vote would have actually won outright.
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SPEAKER_00: But I don't think it helped that Pete Gabriel and Brian and Judy were splitting the vote.
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SPEAKER_00: Brian gets 20%.
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SPEAKER_00: Pete gets 27%.
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SPEAKER_00: I even saw a Pete Gabriel ad where he was basically saying he wrote Obama's climate
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SPEAKER_00: plan or something like that.
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SPEAKER_00: And I loved that ad because it really illustrated something that I try to put into
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SPEAKER_00: practice in politics and try to explain to people.
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SPEAKER_00: When you say something, whether it's true or not, it has to be believable.
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SPEAKER_00: And I just didn't believe that this guy running for state rep in District 33 wrote Obama's climate plan.
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe he did, but it wasn't a believable claim to me.
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SPEAKER_00: And there was no video of Barack Obama saying, I love this guy.
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SPEAKER_00: And so I just think it probably fell flat.
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SPEAKER_00: uh for me and then i didn't see much from brian duty um but i know that shannon
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SPEAKER_00: jones got the willamette week endorsement and i think that was helpful in defining
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SPEAKER_00: herself as a you know progressive because biden's leaving she'll be the only black
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SPEAKER_00: woman in the oregon house i think that was also really good for her in terms of a
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SPEAKER_00: campaign talking point and to really drive and build an identity uh with voters and
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SPEAKER_00: ultimately i think that just all kind of won out
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think we both let in with Shannon because she got the Willamette Week endorsement.
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SPEAKER_01: And it looked like from there,
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SPEAKER_01: there was a real movement of a watershed of a lot of those progressive groups that
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SPEAKER_01: I saw up around Portland that are just hopping on our bandwagon,
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SPEAKER_01: like OLCV and a lot of those ones were really getting behind her.
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SPEAKER_01: And she just kind of moved on to it.
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SPEAKER_01: I agree with you.
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SPEAKER_01: That's a very interesting move.
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SPEAKER_01: If you wrote President Obama's
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SPEAKER_01: climate action plan i feel like you could have got as endorsement for a race like
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SPEAKER_01: this if you were the guy that wrote is literally wrote the president's climate
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SPEAKER_01: action plan or were you just in the room and you're a footnote on writing a climate
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SPEAKER_01: action plan so to your point it's a little unbelievable
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SPEAKER_01: which I think you're right.
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SPEAKER_01: I think some of the voters,
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SPEAKER_01: especially the intentional voters that Jim Moore talks about,
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SPEAKER_01: probably knew that.
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SPEAKER_01: I think that that probably would be the case.
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SPEAKER_01: Shannon seemed like she's great.
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SPEAKER_01: I think what we mentioned in this race, what we found interesting is that all three were
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SPEAKER_01: you know, had super excellent resumes.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean,
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SPEAKER_01: besides the fact that the Democrats,
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SPEAKER_01: but outside of that,
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SPEAKER_01: they had three great resumes that,
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SPEAKER_01: that we saw that was pretty impressive.
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SPEAKER_01: So,
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SPEAKER_01: and Reagan,
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SPEAKER_01: I'm going to,
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SPEAKER_01: we just talked about 16,
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SPEAKER_01: but you know,
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SPEAKER_01: the,
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SPEAKER_01: the true closest primary in Oregon is the Republican nomination for house.
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SPEAKER_01: Because Dan Baumhofer,
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SPEAKER_01: 95-year-old Stan Baumhofer is leading Dick Corder by 23 votes, as we thought.
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SPEAKER_01: For their team, who's in the general?
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SPEAKER_01: Two, Shannon.
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SPEAKER_01: They are splitting the vote, apparently right down the middle, but
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SPEAKER_01: And there can be another Republican that's left to vote in that district.
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SPEAKER_01: So they got a thousand of them.
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SPEAKER_01: I didn't know there's a thousand Republicans in District 33.
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SPEAKER_01: If I was them,
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SPEAKER_01: I'd move the Clackamas County in a hurry,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: before you're found out where you're at.
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SPEAKER_00: Because those thousand Republicans are going up against 10,613 Democrats.
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SPEAKER_00: That does crack me up, Brian.
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SPEAKER_00: And I've seen Dick's name on the ballot before.
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SPEAKER_00: I think he's run.
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SPEAKER_00: And I think Stan got it because he wasn't Dick.
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SPEAKER_00: So, you know, good for them.
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SPEAKER_00: A tough one.
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SPEAKER_00: But,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: maybe we'll have one of them on the podcast to talk about that close and
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SPEAKER_00: hard-fought primary.
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SPEAKER_01: The losers moving out of there,
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SPEAKER_01: they're not going to be able to handle the shame of losing in the primary in Portland.
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SPEAKER_01: Hey, Republicans, just so you're aware, you know that it's public record.
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SPEAKER_01: If you're a Republican in Southeast Portland living there, they can figure that out.
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SPEAKER_01: So just so you know, just letting you know, make sure you're aware of that.
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SPEAKER_01: So if you need to move to Clackamas County, you better.
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SPEAKER_01: Ben West is waiting for you.
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SPEAKER_01: So head on out there.
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SPEAKER_00: All right,
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SPEAKER_00: House District 40 Republican primary,
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SPEAKER_00: and I think this is setting up a key race in November,
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SPEAKER_00: clearly.
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SPEAKER_00: Anessa Hartman, the incumbent Democrat, got 4,400 votes.
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SPEAKER_00: The Republicans combined got 4,100 votes, and this was a very close one in 2022.
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SPEAKER_00: Michael Newgard defeats Sue Leslie.
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SPEAKER_00: I think both of them would need to build name IDs.
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SPEAKER_00: in the general election, both starting from a very similar position.
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SPEAKER_00: Michael takes this one and will, you know, ramp up for the fall.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, this is a good test.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, the vote count for both sides were fairly similar.
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SPEAKER_01: I think you now have an incumbent in Anessa Harpens,
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SPEAKER_01: which is going to give her an advantage going into the general for sure.
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SPEAKER_01: Speaking of voting record that we talked about with Charlie Conrad, I would say that she
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SPEAKER_01: did about all that she could do to try to portray herself as a moderate in the building.
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SPEAKER_01: So I think that she's done a decent amount of work in that respect, including even dating a Republican.
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SPEAKER_01: So I think that's interesting.
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SPEAKER_01: But we'll find out in the 40 where this one goes.
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SPEAKER_01: I think Michael Newgard's got a really good...
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SPEAKER_01: resume but i didn't see a lot of fundraising activity on his side of the fence i
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SPEAKER_01: didn't see a lot of community support which would concern me uh i i've seen a lot
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SPEAKER_01: you know i see i saw anessa raise a lot of money mostly lobby money so this could
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SPEAKER_01: be the battle of you know who who can get outside groups to bring in enough money
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SPEAKER_01: because this was a close one 160 votes or so in the
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SPEAKER_01: Two years ago.
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SPEAKER_01: So it should be close again.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, the way it's stacking up, regardless of what happens, it'll be a close.
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SPEAKER_01: I think this will be a close battle.
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SPEAKER_01: I think it's the lot.
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SPEAKER_01: It's truly that Clackamas, Multnomah County line.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like the DMZ between Portland and Clackamas County.
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SPEAKER_01: So it should be an interesting race.
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SPEAKER_01: I look forward to it.
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SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_00: Another one of the key races in the fall, HD48.
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SPEAKER_00: We've got Andrew Morrison and John Masterman that were competing.
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SPEAKER_00: Masterman really ran away with this one.
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SPEAKER_00: And Brian,
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SPEAKER_00: I think you and I both called that mostly because Masterman was on the ballot last time,
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SPEAKER_00: got extremely close.
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SPEAKER_00: And I think the Republicans down there want to give him another shot.
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SPEAKER_00: Ultimately, Masterman also ran more as a conservative.
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SPEAKER_00: He really wanted to earn more.
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SPEAKER_00: The Republican vote, I think, you know, Andrew is probably a nice guy.
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SPEAKER_00: I met him, but it seemed like he was running a general election campaign in a primary.
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SPEAKER_00: And that doesn't work when you've got competition, when you're competing there.
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SPEAKER_00: They competed.
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SPEAKER_00: Masterman won.
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SPEAKER_00: Masterman now needs a load up to take on Hua Wen in the general election.
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SPEAKER_00: This one, the deficit much bigger.
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SPEAKER_00: in the voting but i think 48 may be partially covered by one of those high turnout
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SPEAKER_00: congressionals that really drove some extra turnout so i expect this one to be
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SPEAKER_01: pretty close in the fall yeah i hope i hope so i think these were definitely the
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SPEAKER_01: democrat numbers were a little higher and i think you're probably right probably
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SPEAKER_01: because of the cd3 race that was probably driving some more of those people to the
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SPEAKER_01: polls and republicans had nothing to vote for there so uh
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SPEAKER_01: the one you know i'll make this note so the willamette week i went through their
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SPEAKER_01: endorsements and they got every one of their candidates right except for this race
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SPEAKER_01: they chose andrew morrison in their race so it tells you that the willamette week
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SPEAKER_01: and they didn't really choose many uh republicans oh wait they also they're also
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SPEAKER_01: behind in uh
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SPEAKER_01: because they chose Dick Corder in that race with Baumhofer.
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SPEAKER_01: So in the two races that they're behind in Willamette Week, they're both Republican races.
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SPEAKER_01: Go figure that they don't know what's going on in some of our Republican primaries.
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SPEAKER_01: But I think you're right.
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SPEAKER_01: I think Masterman, you know, it's also a unique name.
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SPEAKER_01: You and I talked a lot about political branding and stuff like that.
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SPEAKER_01: You kind of don't forget it.
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SPEAKER_01: Morrison's kind of just an everyday,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: I mean,
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SPEAKER_01: if I was him,
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SPEAKER_01: I would have had a logo like the bridge.
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SPEAKER_01: I'd have done something, you know, like tying the Morrison bridge or, you know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_01: Like there was,
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SPEAKER_01: there could have been so many things you could have done there to help that voter
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SPEAKER_01: retention of your name that they didn't do.
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SPEAKER_01: And I know Masterman, we know who ran his race and Masterman's race.
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SPEAKER_01: And I know who ran the other guy's race and I'll,
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SPEAKER_01: I'll bet on David Claude any day and twice on Sunday and that matchup.
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SPEAKER_01: So especially with a guy like Masterman who just works, I mean, he was out doing doors and, and,
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SPEAKER_01: The dude will go knock on doors.
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SPEAKER_01: So props to him.
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SPEAKER_01: Hopefully now he knocks on not the Republican doors,
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SPEAKER_01: but really knocks on those swing voters and those swing Democrats and really tells
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SPEAKER_01: them that,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: the Democrats really have failed those people in southeast Portland Foster Road area.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's really where it needs to be won.
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SPEAKER_00: Masterman, it makes me think of Fetterman.
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SPEAKER_00: And those are just like two of those last names that really stick with you.
18:36
SPEAKER_00: And I think he's got kind of the same working class vibe, honestly.
18:39
SPEAKER_00: Masterman doesn't wear a hoodie or gym shorts, but I think, you know, he's a mechanic.
18:45
SPEAKER_00: And I think that kind of,
18:47
SPEAKER_00: you know,
18:47
SPEAKER_00: as corny as it is,
18:48
SPEAKER_00: I think if I were him,
18:50
SPEAKER_00: I'd almost consider knocking doors while carrying a wrench just for fun,
18:53
SPEAKER_00: just to kind of build that persona and kind of make it fun and get people excited.
18:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
18:59
SPEAKER_01: That's a great idea.
19:00
SPEAKER_01: Even change his logo a little bit, make an outline with the ranch, and I'm here to fix things, right?
19:07
SPEAKER_00: David loves my feedback on logos, so I will definitely make sure to send that to him.
19:11
SPEAKER_00: I'm always giving him a hard time about his logos, so that'll be good.
19:15
SPEAKER_00: Another Republican primary,
19:17
SPEAKER_00: HD51,
19:19
SPEAKER_00: Christine Drazen comes back to the legislature,
19:23
SPEAKER_00: sends James Hebe packing.
19:25
SPEAKER_00: I think I speak for a lot of people saying,
19:28
SPEAKER_00: Really appreciate James.
19:29
SPEAKER_00: He appreciate a lot of the stuff he tried to do,
19:32
SPEAKER_00: especially when it came to,
19:33
SPEAKER_00: you know,
19:34
SPEAKER_00: his his troubled background,
19:36
SPEAKER_00: his family's history of suicide and drug abuse and,
19:41
SPEAKER_00: you know,
19:41
SPEAKER_00: really hope the best for him.
19:44
SPEAKER_00: But I think that voters were looking for someone a little bit more ready to take on
19:51
SPEAKER_00: the legislative process in this particular primary.
19:55
SPEAKER_00: And Drazen obviously had a big,
19:57
SPEAKER_00: strong list,
19:59
SPEAKER_00: did some decent fundraising and some numbers and had some name ID leftover that I'm
20:03
SPEAKER_00: sure came in handy here in this primary as well.
20:06
SPEAKER_00: You're running for governor and all that.
20:08
SPEAKER_01: $20 million in name ID doesn't disappear overnight, but it does disappear.
20:14
SPEAKER_01: It wasn't quite there yet, but I think Oregon Firearms was gone and heavy on James Heap here.
20:21
SPEAKER_01: Apparently that worked out well for him.
20:23
SPEAKER_01: I just think that that area of Clackamas County is kind of a growing area,
20:32
SPEAKER_01: and I think there's a lot of people there that want to see
20:37
SPEAKER_01: things still happen.
20:38
SPEAKER_01: I think a lot of those folks were big supporters of Drazen when she was running for governor.
20:42
SPEAKER_01: And I think nothing wrong with that.
20:43
SPEAKER_01: I don't necessarily share the same insights that you do on James T.
20:48
SPEAKER_01: But,
20:49
SPEAKER_01: you know,
20:49
SPEAKER_01: I don't I just think that Drazen will make a better state representative.
20:54
SPEAKER_00: I'll leave that at that.
20:56
SPEAKER_00: That is what I hear from from a lot of people.
20:59
SPEAKER_00: And again, I don't think it's anything necessarily against him, but I think, you know, he struggled some.
21:04
SPEAKER_00: And I think there's personal struggles that he'll have a chance to work on outside
21:08
SPEAKER_00: of the limelight of politics.
21:10
SPEAKER_00: And that that limelight is usually makes the issues worse.
21:13
SPEAKER_00: It doesn't help you fix them.
21:14
SPEAKER_00: Typically, this is what we see a lot of times.
21:18
SPEAKER_00: So, well, now we head to the Senate.
21:22
SPEAKER_00: And this is one of those places where, you know, we had a couple of these races go different direction.
21:28
SPEAKER_00: But we'll start with the first district, David Brock Smith.
21:32
SPEAKER_00: I think 56% is a good showing for David Brock Smith, especially with three opponents.
21:38
SPEAKER_00: I think even if Todd Vaughn was the only guy running against him,
21:41
SPEAKER_00: Brock Smith probably does 56% or better just because of...
21:46
SPEAKER_00: The attacks really fell flat there and lacked believability.
21:51
SPEAKER_00: Again,
21:51
SPEAKER_00: I think they're calling him a communist Chinese stooge,
21:54
SPEAKER_00: and that's just not the vibe you get from David Brock Smith.
21:57
SPEAKER_00: Maybe there's another legislator out there really shilling for China,
22:00
SPEAKER_00: but David Brock Smith's not one of them.
22:03
SPEAKER_00: So he gets 56%.
22:04
SPEAKER_00: Todd Vaughn comes in second, 29%.
22:06
SPEAKER_00: Paul Romero, who didn't really campaign, got 8%.
22:10
SPEAKER_00: And Ashley Hicks, 5%.
22:13
SPEAKER_00: So that was, I think, what the conventional wisdom really suspected.
22:16
SPEAKER_00: But Ben Edel didn't really have a good night there.
22:19
SPEAKER_00: Won his own uncontested primary, but not this one.
22:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Ruck Pack's killing it.
22:28
SPEAKER_00: All right.
22:29
SPEAKER_00: And then we go to say Senate District two.
22:32
SPEAKER_00: This one's a heartbreaker.
22:33
SPEAKER_00: Brian, Christine Goodwin does not does not beat Noah Robinson.
22:38
SPEAKER_00: That Robinson name seems to be pretty entrenched out there in southern Oregon.
22:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it sure does.
22:45
SPEAKER_01: We spent a lot of money in this race.
22:48
SPEAKER_01: Noah, to his credit, raised a decent amount of money.
22:51
SPEAKER_01: I think he raised $130,000 or so.
22:52
SPEAKER_01: He didn't roll over.
22:52
SPEAKER_01: There's no doubt about it.
22:54
SPEAKER_01: I think that
23:01
SPEAKER_01: I think it's combination of the Robinson name and Josephine County and down in that
23:05
SPEAKER_01: Southern area where they've been on the ballot all over the place.
23:08
SPEAKER_01: And,
23:08
SPEAKER_01: you know,
23:10
SPEAKER_01: Goodwin,
23:10
SPEAKER_01: I think had a lot of smoke around her residency where she was actually living and
23:15
SPEAKER_01: they filed a lawsuit and then they dropped the lawsuit and she never got to win the
23:20
SPEAKER_01: lawsuit in court.
23:21
SPEAKER_01: So it kind of just hung out there and,
23:24
SPEAKER_01: and there was a lot of,
23:25
SPEAKER_01: you know,
23:26
SPEAKER_01: so there were,
23:26
SPEAKER_01: that created a lot of anti,
23:27
SPEAKER_01: anti,
23:29
SPEAKER_01: uh,
23:29
SPEAKER_01: good one stuff that I think kind of,
23:31
SPEAKER_01: kind of belt out of there,
23:32
SPEAKER_01: gave him a reason to go pound pounder.
23:35
SPEAKER_01: And, uh, it worked, you know, there's really not much you can do about it.
23:38
SPEAKER_01: The biggest thing I'll say here is,
23:40
SPEAKER_01: you know,
23:40
SPEAKER_01: we had,
23:41
SPEAKER_01: we pulled the race first part of may,
23:44
SPEAKER_01: um,
23:45
SPEAKER_01: some other people pulled the race as well,
23:48
SPEAKER_01: and it didn't show this,
23:50
SPEAKER_01: you know,
23:50
SPEAKER_01: showed a very tight race.
23:52
SPEAKER_01: So, uh, I don't know if they pulled the wrong people.
23:57
SPEAKER_01: or maybe they weren't intentional.
23:59
SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure.
24:00
SPEAKER_01: I think Robinson's put up a lot of signs, I'll tell you.
24:05
SPEAKER_01: I went down there one time and
24:08
SPEAKER_01: Um,
24:08
SPEAKER_01: you know,
24:08
SPEAKER_01: they own a sign making company,
24:10
SPEAKER_01: so their ability to put up signs is,
24:13
SPEAKER_01: uh,
24:13
SPEAKER_01: insanely,
24:14
SPEAKER_01: uh,
24:15
SPEAKER_01: practical.
24:16
SPEAKER_01: That's for sure.
24:16
SPEAKER_01: They can do it.
24:17
SPEAKER_01: They can just print, print, print, print, print.
24:19
SPEAKER_01: And that doesn't come out into that, that $130,000 in cash, right?
24:23
SPEAKER_01: That, that they, I don't even see even many in kinds at all from bridge view press to his pack.
24:30
SPEAKER_01: So who knows how much of that, uh,
24:33
SPEAKER_01: you never even got accounted for.
24:35
SPEAKER_01: So I don't know what a sign on every street corner is worth, but it's worth something.
24:40
SPEAKER_01: That's for sure.
24:40
SPEAKER_01: So props to Robinson for winning.
24:44
SPEAKER_01: It's kind of all I got to say on that one.
24:45
SPEAKER_01: I mean,
24:46
SPEAKER_01: I think that it's a Christine's a friend and we tried doing everything we could
24:50
SPEAKER_01: there to help get her over the top.
24:52
SPEAKER_01: But there was no crack in that nut.
24:54
SPEAKER_01: That's the reality of it.
24:57
SPEAKER_01: The polling, you know, told us differently, but the polling was wrong.
25:02
SPEAKER_01: And we've never heard that before.
25:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think also these primaries, the undecideds can break late and they can break hard.
25:12
SPEAKER_00: I think that's also, we've seen that.
25:14
SPEAKER_00: That is a true thing.
25:15
SPEAKER_00: And I had that happen on a local levy here where the polling,
25:19
SPEAKER_00: you know,
25:20
SPEAKER_00: said one thing and the outcome said a totally different thing.
25:22
SPEAKER_00: So I hear that.
25:24
SPEAKER_00: Senate District 28, I think Linthicum, Diane Linthicum, 59%, pretty solid showing.
25:32
SPEAKER_00: really another place for that name ID is pretty well established.
25:36
SPEAKER_00: You know, Dave Hensley gave it a good shot.
25:38
SPEAKER_00: I got 40% of the vote, but that wasn't, wasn't as much of a high spending affair.
25:45
SPEAKER_00: And I think Hensley probably needed some more money,
25:48
SPEAKER_00: a good chunk more money to really drive home and make that one super competitive
25:52
SPEAKER_00: would be my guess without not knowing a lot about what happened on the ground there,
25:57
SPEAKER_00: but.
25:57
SPEAKER_00: Diane Linthicum will succeed her husband there in Senate District 28 and increase
26:04
SPEAKER_00: the number of women in the Senate Republican caucus again.
26:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's true.
26:09
SPEAKER_01: I guess,
26:11
SPEAKER_01: you know,
26:11
SPEAKER_01: I think also if you look at your ballot,
26:13
SPEAKER_01: right,
26:14
SPEAKER_01: you're going to you're going to vote for Dennis Linthicum.
26:16
SPEAKER_01: And then it literally could be the next name is state Senate 28 and you're voting for Diane Linthicum.
26:22
SPEAKER_01: So, yeah.
26:24
SPEAKER_01: I think that that was probably a big piece of that, that institutional name ID.
26:28
SPEAKER_01: I think also,
26:29
SPEAKER_01: too,
26:29
SPEAKER_01: Reagan,
26:30
SPEAKER_01: we don't really give ourselves,
26:31
SPEAKER_01: because we're never good at giving ourselves credit,
26:35
SPEAKER_01: so let's give ourselves some more credit.
26:37
SPEAKER_01: We branded Oregon's 13 and the walkout so well.
26:41
SPEAKER_01: that the Lithicum name and the Robinson name became folk heroes, you know, in these communities.
26:46
SPEAKER_01: So,
26:47
SPEAKER_01: you know,
26:47
SPEAKER_01: we almost were too good doing the PR work we did when the Senate Republicans walked
26:53
SPEAKER_01: out and we were both in the caucus office,
26:56
SPEAKER_01: you know,
26:57
SPEAKER_01: doing PR.
26:57
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, maybe we take our hat off for that one.
27:00
SPEAKER_01: I don't know, but, uh,
27:03
SPEAKER_01: Dennis and Diane have been around a long time in those areas down there.
27:06
SPEAKER_01: Names went on about a lot.
27:07
SPEAKER_01: It's pretty tough to overcome without having a lot of money.
27:11
SPEAKER_01: Also, too, the percentage of...
27:14
SPEAKER_01: voter score was similar to Senate District 2.
27:18
SPEAKER_01: So I do think you have,
27:20
SPEAKER_01: of the people who turned out,
27:21
SPEAKER_01: you do really have what I talked about in that news article that we led the show
27:25
SPEAKER_01: off with is this kind of more obstructionist version of a Republican to a more
27:32
SPEAKER_01: right-leaning Republican,
27:35
SPEAKER_01: but not necessarily in an obstructionist mentality of just vote no,
27:40
SPEAKER_01: no matter what.
27:41
SPEAKER_01: you know, we don't care about, you know, money in our district.
27:44
SPEAKER_01: We don't care about better roads.
27:45
SPEAKER_01: We don't care about sewers, water, all that sort of stuff.
27:48
SPEAKER_01: We just want you to vote.
27:49
SPEAKER_01: No.
27:49
SPEAKER_01: So there's just a certain group of those.
27:52
SPEAKER_01: And I would imagine it's not all 60% that voted for Diane, but it,
27:56
SPEAKER_01: Of those people that are in that mentality,
27:59
SPEAKER_01: they're definitely going towards a Diane Lithgow versus a Dave Hensley because I
28:04
SPEAKER_01: watched one of their debates and you could clearly see that there was two distinct,
28:10
SPEAKER_01: even though politically they probably are the same person,
28:13
SPEAKER_01: they align politically.
28:14
SPEAKER_01: And I'd say Christine and Noah are the same, right?
28:16
SPEAKER_01: They probably align the same.
28:18
SPEAKER_01: It's just how they go about legislating in Salem, I think, is really the chasm that the two have.
28:25
SPEAKER_01: races had in common, I think.
28:27
SPEAKER_01: So we'll see.
28:29
SPEAKER_00: Makes sense to me, Brian.
28:30
SPEAKER_00: And then finally, we rounded out here in the legislature, State Senate District 29.
28:36
SPEAKER_00: I think this one caught people by surprise, not because Todd Nash was
28:40
SPEAKER_00: the winner.
28:41
SPEAKER_00: He again locked up that Oregon Rights to Life endorsement.
28:44
SPEAKER_00: He had the Oregon Firearms Federation endorsement until they unendorsed him.
28:48
SPEAKER_00: His stance on the Second Amendment in that time, this campaign, didn't change that I'm aware of.
28:52
SPEAKER_00: So I'm interested to get into that at some point.
28:55
SPEAKER_00: But for some reason, they withdrew that endorsement.
28:58
SPEAKER_00: But I think
28:59
SPEAKER_00: You know, by the time they got through the primary, it was like, what was the point of withdrawing it?
29:03
SPEAKER_00: And then he had like timber union stuff.
29:05
SPEAKER_00: And those are all sole endorsements.
29:07
SPEAKER_00: I think that gave him an edge on the conservative front to lock in the conservative voters.
29:12
SPEAKER_00: But he still had a really good reputation of being somebody that worked with other people.
29:17
SPEAKER_00: And that's what prevented Drotsman and Doherty really, I think, from getting involved.
29:21
SPEAKER_00: a strong foothold, either one of them.
29:23
SPEAKER_00: And the race in the other,
29:24
SPEAKER_00: they both kind of cut into each other's bases on the western half of that district.
29:30
SPEAKER_00: The shocking part to me was Drotsman coming in third at something I wasn't
29:34
SPEAKER_00: necessarily predicting looking at that race.
29:36
SPEAKER_00: Nash and Drotsman were really the kind of early spenders,
29:39
SPEAKER_00: but Doherty poured on the late money,
29:42
SPEAKER_00: had some stumbles,
29:43
SPEAKER_00: ran into some political and real fences.
29:47
SPEAKER_00: I think that created a little bit of a challenge for him.
29:50
SPEAKER_00: when he had a chance to pick up that momentum.
29:53
SPEAKER_00: And so Nash kind of wins in a very convincing manner there with 53%.
29:58
SPEAKER_01: Well, my, my take is besides your fun Doherty comment, I think definitely two takes on this one.
30:07
SPEAKER_01: I think we didn't see Doherty coming in second.
30:09
SPEAKER_01: I think that's a pretty interesting must.
30:13
SPEAKER_01: I don't know that area as well.
30:15
SPEAKER_01: I haven't spent, you know,
30:17
SPEAKER_01: gobs amount of time up there,
30:19
SPEAKER_01: so I didn't know that he had a lot of institutional coming from Sherman County.
30:22
SPEAKER_01: It's a pretty small county.
30:24
SPEAKER_01: But really, what Senator Hansel told us rang true.
30:28
SPEAKER_01: Looking at the county results, I mean, they were pretty evenly spread until you got the Union County.
30:35
SPEAKER_01: You get to the east side of the Blue Mountains, Todd Nash won 73% of the vote in Union County.
30:41
SPEAKER_01: And then in Wallowa County, where he's from, 81% of the vote.
30:46
SPEAKER_01: So his margins and the gross numbers there truly made the difference.
30:51
SPEAKER_01: Those folks on the east side of the Blue Mountains were not voting for somebody on
30:56
SPEAKER_01: the west side of the Blue Mountains.
30:57
SPEAKER_01: And that's clearly a geographical block of voters that Nash put in his pocket and they weren't moving.
31:04
SPEAKER_01: So I think that that's just looking at the county by county numbers.
31:09
SPEAKER_01: it was very clear that the number – and he even won Umatilla, but by a very small margin, Todd Nash.
31:15
SPEAKER_01: So I think that, you know, good race for him.
31:18
SPEAKER_01: I think he's a likable guy.
31:20
SPEAKER_01: I think there's a lot of that that kind of comes along with it, but he had enough institutional support.
31:26
SPEAKER_01: But I really think that he overcame any sort of –
31:31
SPEAKER_01: challenged by being the only one on the east side of the Blue Mountains,
31:34
SPEAKER_01: that made a difference because he really locked up that vote.
31:36
SPEAKER_00: And there was really not,
31:37
SPEAKER_00: I mean,
31:38
SPEAKER_00: I couldn't find anything that was really negative that people were saying about him.
31:42
SPEAKER_00: And I think when you have a candidate, I think he's one of those unique ones that are just like,
31:46
SPEAKER_00: so well liked overall generally that you just can't how are you going to oppose him
31:52
SPEAKER_00: what are you going to say about him he's too nice like I just think like that at
31:56
SPEAKER_00: that point that could be the only thing that you've got and I think there's just
32:00
SPEAKER_00: there weren't a lot of negatives there Drotsman and Doherty both had political
32:04
SPEAKER_00: histories you know Drotsman at the city and it's really hard to be working for a
32:08
SPEAKER_00: city and not say you need more property tax or other kind of revenue and so I think
32:13
SPEAKER_00: that really hurt him and then
32:14
SPEAKER_00: you know, Doherty, you know, fighting out his recall and other stuff.
32:18
SPEAKER_00: I think it just made it so that Nash was kind of the obvious choice for a lot of people.
32:22
SPEAKER_00: And I agree.
32:22
SPEAKER_00: I love Todd Nash.
32:23
SPEAKER_00: I got to meet him.
32:24
SPEAKER_00: I was on the Oregon rights to life pack board that endorsed him.
32:28
SPEAKER_00: I think it's going to be great for that area.
32:30
SPEAKER_00: Really excited to see him win that race.
32:34
SPEAKER_00: Any closing thoughts, Brian?
32:36
SPEAKER_00: We're getting a little long in the tooth here.
32:37
SPEAKER_00: So I think we're going to do a part two because there's a lot of local races to break down.
32:41
SPEAKER_00: And so we'll probably do at least another hour on those.
32:45
SPEAKER_00: I think even just the Multnomah Clackamas and talking about those, there's a ton to talk about there.
32:51
SPEAKER_00: So we're going to save everybody's ears and do that another time.
32:54
SPEAKER_01: I agree.
32:55
SPEAKER_01: I think there was some interesting stuff that happened on the local side,
32:59
SPEAKER_01: some unintended consequences of some of those things that we can kind of dive into.
33:04
SPEAKER_01: and then kind of start previewing the fall as we get to it.
33:07
SPEAKER_01: But I think with the legislative stuff,
33:09
SPEAKER_01: I think the key is,
33:11
SPEAKER_01: is to remember that we are as Republicans arguing underneath the same tent,
33:19
SPEAKER_01: you know,
33:20
SPEAKER_01: and out of this,
33:20
SPEAKER_01: we gotta,
33:21
SPEAKER_01: we gotta go forward.
33:22
SPEAKER_01: And hence forward, I think that, you know, the Republican house Republican caucus lost, you know, two,
33:31
SPEAKER_01: two of their incumbents were taken out, basically.
33:37
SPEAKER_01: And that's pretty interesting.
33:40
SPEAKER_01: And I think the Senate Republican,
33:41
SPEAKER_01: we knew there was going to be a lot of primaries because of the walkout.
33:45
SPEAKER_01: And that creates usually some fighting.
33:49
SPEAKER_01: And they're usually a little more intense on the Senate side,
33:52
SPEAKER_01: just because you're fighting for a four-year seat instead of a two-year seat.
33:56
SPEAKER_01: So I think sometimes that creates the ratchets up the intensity a little bit.
34:01
SPEAKER_01: But, you know, it is what it is.
34:03
SPEAKER_01: Like you're going to have battles within primaries and you move on.
34:06
SPEAKER_01: I think there are some hurt feelings probably out there on some of these.
34:09
SPEAKER_01: But it's no different than I think DeSantis is probably still pissed at Trump.
34:14
SPEAKER_01: that he lost the lost to primary to him and couldn't,
34:17
SPEAKER_01: couldn't go on and become the presidential nominee,
34:20
SPEAKER_01: but it doesn't mean that he's not going to support Donald Trump and the general,
34:24
SPEAKER_01: you know?
34:24
SPEAKER_01: So in the same thing with the Democrats,
34:26
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure there was,
34:28
SPEAKER_01: you know,
34:28
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure Doyle cannons pissed at,
34:30
SPEAKER_01: you know,
34:30
SPEAKER_01: Fraggle up,
34:31
SPEAKER_01: but it's not like she's going to become a Republican.
34:34
SPEAKER_01: And I think we just have to remember that when we talk about these primaries,
34:37
SPEAKER_01: that there are primaries within your own house that,
34:41
SPEAKER_01: you're having an argument, you're going to beat each other up a little bit, and then you move on, right?
34:45
SPEAKER_01: But it's, and I would just say, have a very, very, was it wake up with amnesia, as they say, and move on.
34:55
SPEAKER_01: You know,
34:56
SPEAKER_01: I have a few campaign managers that I've had to,
34:59
SPEAKER_01: you know,
34:59
SPEAKER_01: talk off the ledge with some stuff and just say,
35:02
SPEAKER_01: Well,
35:04
SPEAKER_01: you can't win every time you got to just,
35:06
SPEAKER_01: you know,
35:06
SPEAKER_01: you take your wins,
35:07
SPEAKER_01: you take your losses and you get up and you move forward,
35:10
SPEAKER_01: you know,
35:10
SPEAKER_01: and that's just the reality of it.
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SPEAKER_01: So I wish everybody.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a good point.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: It's a good point, Brian.
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SPEAKER_00: I saw.
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SPEAKER_00: democrats on twitter talking about maxine dexter that like she's bought by
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SPEAKER_00: republican israel money and i was like that doesn't mean she's gonna start voting
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SPEAKER_00: the republican line like people take that stuff way too far you know she's gonna be
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SPEAKER_00: a reliable progressive vote trust me on this one she's gonna have a 99 with biden
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SPEAKER_00: you know 99 with nancy pelosi but the record like that is a give it here
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SPEAKER_00: And I think, you know, people really blow that stuff out of proportion.
35:46
SPEAKER_00: The problem is,
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SPEAKER_00: is that they're so far on the edge of their party that they think everybody,
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SPEAKER_00: anybody in the middle of their party is a right wing extremist.
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SPEAKER_00: And that's like the problem.
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SPEAKER_00: This is like if you're pro Israel,
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SPEAKER_00: that's like still the majority opinion in the Democratic Party and in America.
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SPEAKER_00: And they're just, you know, way on the outside there.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, thanks, Brian, for your insights.
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SPEAKER_00: It's always great to have you bring your perspective because you've got a lot of
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SPEAKER_00: knowledge about these races.
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SPEAKER_00: You ran the House Republican races two years ago,
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SPEAKER_00: so you know a lot of these districts and how they behave and a lot of these candidates.
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SPEAKER_00: And so it's great to have your input.
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SPEAKER_00: Looking forward to discussing these local races with you here next time.
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SPEAKER_00: We'll try to get those out quickly so that people can get their fix after the election.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: Good to speak with you, Reagan.
36:35
SPEAKER_01: It's always fun having a millennial co-host.
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SPEAKER_01: So I appreciate that, especially with babies at home.
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SPEAKER_01: It's fun.
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SPEAKER_01: I appreciate you and the insight you bring me.
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SPEAKER_01: So I don't want to be old, crudgy, you know, consultant that loses his edge.
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SPEAKER_01: So you keep me going.
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SPEAKER_01: Talk to you soon.
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SPEAKER_01: You're welcome, Brian.
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SPEAKER_00: Thanks, everybody.