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Ep. 86: Recapping Preseason Finale, Roster Hot-Takes | Jags A.M. Podcast · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the final preseason edition of jag Zam. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Kannanni Stevens, Brian Sexton, John Osier with me here today
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: is we talk about that final preseason game as we
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  Speaker 1: get ready for final roster cutdowns tomorrow. We'll kick off
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: big things with three and zero for the preseason. The
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  Speaker 1: Daguars undefeated. They now won six preseason games in a row.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that big of a deal, but they haven't done
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  Speaker 2: it since nineteen ninety six, and they had lost ten
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  Speaker 2: of their last eleven, So Brian and no, preseason doesn't
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  Speaker 2: mean a lot, but it is nice to see the
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  Speaker 2: team going out there and winning when they're playing a game.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, we talk about culture all the time
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  Speaker 3: you hear from coaches and players. This is an example
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  Speaker 3: of culture right, doing the right thing the right way,
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  Speaker 3: executing even a limited game plan, which is all they
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  Speaker 3: have in the preseason anyway, and the coaching staff talked
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  Speaker 3: about grasping the concepts and then executing on them, and
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  Speaker 3: they did.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm struggling to think of a moment in the.
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  Speaker 3: Preseason where they didn't look like a team that's capable
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  Speaker 3: of winning in the regular season. Called me when they're
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  Speaker 3: three and zero in the regular season, obviously it means
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  Speaker 3: that much more. But it wasn't that long ago that
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  Speaker 3: this was a franchise. This was a team that didn't.
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  Speaker 4: Seem to do a lot right in the month of August,
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  Speaker 4: So I'll take it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. I asked Doug off the podium on Friday if
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  Speaker 5: he cared about being six and oh the last two preseasons,
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  Speaker 5: and he said no. And I waited for more and
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  Speaker 5: he said, no, I do not, And I was glad
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  Speaker 5: he didn't get more angry because it was kind of
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  Speaker 5: a silly question, but I knew it needed to be
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  Speaker 5: asked at some point because you're six and oh. It
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  Speaker 5: means nothing except that you're functioning on all levels better
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  Speaker 5: than the team you're playing is functioning at all levels.
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  Speaker 6: So it's not a bad thing.
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  Speaker 5: It doesn't mean anything, but I think it's better than
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  Speaker 5: the alternative is to look bad.
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  Speaker 3: And I think it reinforces what they said in the
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  Speaker 3: course of the lead up to camp and then during camp,
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  Speaker 3: John and that is that they were all focused on
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  Speaker 3: the way that last season ended.
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  Speaker 4: They were determined not to see things.
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  Speaker 3: Go you know, along those lines where they weren't playing
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  Speaker 3: very well, so to me, this was just validation of
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  Speaker 3: some of the things they were saying. Meaningless as it
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  Speaker 3: may be, it at least gives you some indicators, some
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  Speaker 3: clues that you can use to take a look at
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  Speaker 3: what this team could be in the regular season.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe not a big deal, but definitely better than
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  Speaker 1: the opposite. Second big thing today going to be the
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  Speaker 1: starting line. We saw that starting offensive five on the
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  Speaker 1: offensive line for the first time this season playing together,
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  Speaker 1: and they played together for a couple of drives with
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  Speaker 1: some success of Peterson talked after the game about what
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  Speaker 1: he saw.
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  Speaker 7: I thought it was good, you know. I think there's
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  Speaker 7: some still some things we can improve on and continue
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  Speaker 7: to work. But I thought overall, they did a nice job,
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  Speaker 7: you know, in Atlanta through through some pressures at us
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  Speaker 7: that you know, you know, we were un blocked, which
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  Speaker 7: you know, which is which is gonna happen one extra
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  Speaker 7: and Trevor did a nice job, you know, getting the
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  Speaker 7: ball out of his hand. But overall I thought they
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  Speaker 7: played well.
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  Speaker 1: John, We're not gonna make too much of it, but
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  Speaker 1: we did see some good things.
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  Speaker 8: Trevor getting the ball out quickly.
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  Speaker 1: They stuck with the run even when things weren't necessarily
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  Speaker 1: going their way, so things are looking up, I guess
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  Speaker 1: trending towards the regular season.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I thought Trevor looked good in uh both of his
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  Speaker 5: his starts, the really good the other night. All you
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  Speaker 5: can do in pre season is look as it is,
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  Speaker 5: is play who you're playing. And that they led two
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  Speaker 5: touchdown drives. He had a few nice passes on each one.
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  Speaker 5: He had a really nice pass start off the game
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  Speaker 5: to uh Brian Thomas Jr. If he hadn't looked good,
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  Speaker 5: everybody would be criticizing him for it, so praise him.
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  Speaker 5: Within that uh Brian, I had the idea that maybe
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  Speaker 5: if if the Falcons had played a few more people
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  Speaker 5: or seemed like they were being competitive, they might have
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  Speaker 5: played the starters a little more. I got the idea
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  Speaker 5: that Doug looked at it and went, well, we nad fine,
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  Speaker 5: get him out.
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  Speaker 3: We don't even want to be in a hero right
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  Speaker 3: the linebacker, the reserve linebacker that came screaming through and
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  Speaker 3: hit him below the knees. At that moment, I'm like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: it's not for driver to have a seat. There's no
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  Speaker 3: reason to keep him playing. I'll say this last Thursday,
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  Speaker 3: before we went to Atlanta, talked to Trevor in our
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  Speaker 3: TV production meeting, and he talked extensively about having confidence
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  Speaker 3: in each one of those guys individually, and even though
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  Speaker 3: he hadn't seen them together as a unit yet, he
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  Speaker 3: was pretty confident in what the offensive line could be.
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  Speaker 3: He played that way, and as Jehn just mentioned, you
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  Speaker 3: didn't see their front line guys, so of course he's
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  Speaker 3: going to be confident what they can do.
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  Speaker 4: But it was nice to see.
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  Speaker 3: Because would you blame him if he wasn't right, if
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  Speaker 3: it based on the way that the end of last
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  Speaker 3: season went. Would you have blamed him if he might
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  Speaker 3: have been just a little bit curious right, shaky on
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  Speaker 3: the offensive group and wanting to get them together. He
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  Speaker 3: said he had confidence. He played like they had confidence.
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  Speaker 3: That's good. Here comes the real stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Cutdowns are going to be tomorrow before four pm.
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  Speaker 1: As we mentioned, no major injuries, so that makes things
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  Speaker 1: a little more difficult, but good that the team is
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  Speaker 1: healthy as we get to cut down day. That's our
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  Speaker 1: final big thing today, Brian. We talked a lot about
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  Speaker 1: this last week. We'll go over specific bubble players a
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  Speaker 1: little later on in the show, but did anything significantly
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  Speaker 1: change for.
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  Speaker 8: You since the game?
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  Speaker 4: No, No, I didn't see anything. I mean, Elijah Cooks
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  Speaker 4: is a bubble guy. He's different than the other wide receivers.
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  Speaker 4: He's six foot five, he's got longer arms.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he's a jump, go, get the ball guy,
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  Speaker 3: which is different than all the other receivers. He does
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  Speaker 3: something distinctly different. Well, he made his case with that
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  Speaker 3: catch in the end zone that was contested with a
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  Speaker 3: cornerback hanging all over him. So perhaps he's a guy
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  Speaker 3: who squeezed his way on.
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  Speaker 4: He's helped them in special teams. They know who he is.
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  Speaker 3: It's not like the one play changes everything. We'll have
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  Speaker 3: to wait and see.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a guy to watch. Not really here either.
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  Speaker 5: Cole Van Lannon on the offensive line is a guy
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  Speaker 5: keep nine or ten. Javon Foster probably gonna play this year,
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  Speaker 5: but you got to protect him. There's some decisions like that.
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  Speaker 5: But look, realistically, if we're talking about the last three
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  Speaker 5: or four guys in the roster, we are talking about
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  Speaker 5: guys who are probably gonna be up and down from
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  Speaker 5: the practice squad a little bit and fairly interchangeable parts.
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  Speaker 5: So I didn't really see anything that stood out on Friday.
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  Speaker 8: All right, that's it for our big things.
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  Speaker 1: Coming up after the break, we'll go over some of
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  Speaker 1: those highlights from the final preseason game of the year.
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  Speaker 8: Welcome back in.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about that final preseason matchup against the Falcons.
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  Speaker 8: Then things looked pretty clean.
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  Speaker 1: It was against the third team of Atlanta, which we mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: but he got to play who's out on the field
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  Speaker 1: and we saw some good things from the team. We'll
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  Speaker 1: start out with that first drive we saw out of them,
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  Speaker 1: because there was some good things.
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  Speaker 8: The team stuck to the run throughout the.
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  Speaker 1: First well throughout the entire game because they're trying to
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  Speaker 1: run the clock at the end there. But seeing ETN
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  Speaker 1: and Tank both get repetitive you know carries. We saw
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  Speaker 1: Tank didn't fall through and didn't get through on third
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  Speaker 1: and one, but got it right back on fourth and one,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously Etn also being a part of the passing
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  Speaker 1: game has been good. And then Brian Thomas Junior has
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  Speaker 1: just been flashing every time he gets the Lall.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's not gonna flash, it just is at this.
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  Speaker 4: Point, he is so smooth for a guy who's six
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  Speaker 4: foot three.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's just there's nothing that doesn't look natural
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  Speaker 3: to him running across the field, running down the field.
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  Speaker 4: I was not the.
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  Speaker 3: Biggest go draft a wide receiver guy, but looking at
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  Speaker 3: him and what he's done, he's changed my mind.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's going to be a difference maker.
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  Speaker 8: John here too.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a couple of impressive touchdown passes.
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  Speaker 5: And again, I don't know if it translates when you're
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  Speaker 5: playing number one defensive backs or not.
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  Speaker 6: It seems like there's some timing, some confidence there. Brian
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  Speaker 6: Thomas Junior.
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  Speaker 5: Again, all pre season, every day you kept seeing him
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  Speaker 5: and I'm not sure how you quantify it, but you
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  Speaker 5: kept seeing him every day. You feel like he's getting
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  Speaker 5: it a little more. He's growing a little more, he's
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  Speaker 5: improving a little more to where I have no idea
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  Speaker 5: if it's gonna be a thousand yards, it's gonna be
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  Speaker 5: seven hundred yards. But for a rookie like him in
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  Speaker 5: this offense, what you need is for him to matter statistically.
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  Speaker 5: I don't care, but you get the idea that there's
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  Speaker 5: gonna be some plays this year that they need that
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  Speaker 5: he matters on. And as a rookie first round pick
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  Speaker 5: that hasn't always happened, I think it's gonna be significant.
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  Speaker 3: You covered a receiver in Indianapolis, Reggie who is Hall
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  Speaker 3: of Fame caliber receiver. What did you expect from him
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  Speaker 3: as a rookie. I mean, he was a guy that
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  Speaker 3: came in as a top draft pick.
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  Speaker 6: Don't think expected They didn't get it. I mean he.
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  Speaker 5: Missed a lot of the games that year, but even
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  Speaker 5: when he didn't, he wasn't a Pro Bowl level guy
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  Speaker 5: until his fourth year.
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  Speaker 6: So it's well third you could tell.
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  Speaker 5: But he's one reason why I always expect very little
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  Speaker 5: out of rookies because I've seen guys come on and develop.
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  Speaker 5: It's just not the same as when they're in their
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  Speaker 5: second year. But Brian Thomas Junior looks like a guy
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  Speaker 5: who is going to defy that a little bit.
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  Speaker 6: I think he's gonna matter a lot to him.
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  Speaker 1: It's the first utility for me, it's really impressive so far.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about Evan Ingram. He's obviously
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  Speaker 1: had the career year last year, fourth in the league
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  Speaker 1: and receptions, let all tight ends for receptions, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: he said he's focused now on touchdowns and he got
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  Speaker 1: two of them in the preseason year.
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  Speaker 3: One hundred and fourteen catchers, the second most in single
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  Speaker 3: season by a tight end, and he had nine hundred
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  Speaker 3: and sixty four.
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  Speaker 4: Yards, so go, oh, it'd be a thousand yard receiver.
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  Speaker 3: But he only had four touchdowns, which seems crazy to
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  Speaker 3: me because he's such an important target for Trevor and
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  Speaker 3: such a difficult matchup for linebackers or for safeties. I
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  Speaker 3: would think that this should be a year he'd be
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  Speaker 3: had ten touchdowns.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I hope for Evan's sake that this plays out different
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  Speaker 5: than what I'm going to say.
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  Speaker 6: They hope that.
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  Speaker 5: He doesn't catch one hundred and fourteen this year. He
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  Speaker 5: caught one hundred and fourteen last year. He stepped up
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  Speaker 5: and he was their offense in the last four or
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  Speaker 5: five games after Christian went down. They don't need to
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  Speaker 5: have it going through him to that degree this year.
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  Speaker 5: What it would be great for him is if the
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  Speaker 5: yards per attempt or the yards per catch went up slightly.
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  Speaker 5: And as Brian said, he could have a better year
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  Speaker 5: catching eighty and nine touchdowns exactly what I was then,
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  Speaker 5: one hundred and fourteen and four touchdowns.
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  Speaker 6: I think he would tell you that too.
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  Speaker 5: Look, once Christian went out last year, I don't think
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  Speaker 5: Trevor trusted very much except for Evan. To me, the
• 10:49
  Speaker 5: significant thing about Trevor this year, I think it's back
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  Speaker 5: to twenty twenty two when Bucky Brooks used to talk
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  Speaker 5: about how it felt organic, how it felt like when
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  Speaker 5: Trevor dropped back, it didn't matter where the ball was going.
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  Speaker 5: I think now you've got Christian, you've got Gabe Day,
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  Speaker 5: you have four or five guys. I don't think Trevor
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  Speaker 5: cares at the snap where the ball goes. And as
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  Speaker 5: much as this can be true of receivers, I'm not
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  Speaker 5: sure they carry it.
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  Speaker 4: Eighty ony ten would be an incredible season for him.
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  Speaker 8: I think we'd all be happy with that for sure.
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  Speaker 8: Let's talk a little bit about the defense.
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  Speaker 1: We saw the starting defense in this game for most
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  Speaker 1: of the first half. I think that maybe the last play,
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  Speaker 1: so from what we see from Nielsen so far. We
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  Speaker 1: obviously saw that track sacked from Trayvon some pressure as well.
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  Speaker 1: They were getting as they should meeting winning their matchups.
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  Speaker 1: What are we going to see it as the defense
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  Speaker 1: come regular season or the same?
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  Speaker 3: Well, the thing is should up to me was just
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  Speaker 3: how quickly Nielsen started moving guys getting out of the
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: lineup right. I mean it was like almost a hockey right,
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  Speaker 3: here come four, here come four, Here come two. He's
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  Speaker 3: got so many different body styles and different types of players.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's going to get clever.
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  Speaker 3: He's got a look at that by Devon Hamilton, right,
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  Speaker 3: I mean that's a big man who's chasing that quarterback down.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's going to be able to go into
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  Speaker 3: his lab and create mismatches to create leverage on an
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  Speaker 3: offensive line.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm fine with the lab.
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  Speaker 5: I want forty four and tested because I think Trayvon
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  Speaker 5: has a feel. When Tomlin called him a wrecking ball
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  Speaker 5: last year, Mike Tomlin, that really it resonated with me
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  Speaker 5: because that's how he plays. It's not necessarily that he's
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  Speaker 5: going to have these just picture book past rush moves.
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  Speaker 5: I think he has enough pass rush moves to be
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  Speaker 5: a dominant force because he is such a physically dominant
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  Speaker 5: human being.
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  Speaker 6: I get that.
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  Speaker 5: It was third teamers, and I'm not saying, but you
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  Speaker 5: look at Trayvon and he just has continued to get
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  Speaker 5: better and better and he's so physically gifted, dominant. Whatever
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  Speaker 5: experiment all you want, but let's make sure him in
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  Speaker 5: forty one.
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  Speaker 6: Are on the field.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, let's keep them out there. I think that's fair.
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  Speaker 5: And fifty two, I mean, I keep saying to me,
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  Speaker 5: this defense, I get there, Ryan Ielson's a big story.
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  Speaker 6: They're playing fast, that's all good.
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  Speaker 5: Armstead, Hamilton, Trayvon Walker and Josh heinz Allen. If those
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  Speaker 5: guys are healthy, it makes me feel like they can
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  Speaker 5: be a dominant defensive line. I don't know if it's
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  Speaker 5: the best in franchise history, because there's been a lot.
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  Speaker 4: There's been some good defensive lineman around.
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  Speaker 5: Here that forsome quietly because of Hamilton coming back and
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  Speaker 5: Armstead adding, and it could be pretty good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You know, ninety nine you had Gary Walker in the
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  Speaker 3: middle with ten sacks and you had Bryce Pop and
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  Speaker 3: Tony Brackens on the outside.
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  Speaker 4: This could challenge that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a quietly put together a pretty good
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  Speaker 5: group there, and I think they're the key to this
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  Speaker 5: defense being what they think it can be.
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  Speaker 8: One last time that we're gonna get t too.
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  Speaker 1: Mac Jones touchdown throw to Elijah Cooks, who talked about
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  Speaker 1: Cooks a little bit off the.
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  Speaker 8: Top, made that catch, got that touchdown, which is what
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  Speaker 8: they wanted to do with open the end zone and
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  Speaker 8: get the ball.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm at a point where is it hurting them
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  Speaker 1: now because now people are seeing it on film and he.
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  Speaker 8: Might get picked up somewhere else if he doesn't make
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  Speaker 8: the roster, or is it solidified a spot on a roster.
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  Speaker 3: That's a great question. I think Elijah Cooks does one thing.
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  Speaker 3: I think he does it very well. He goes up
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  Speaker 3: and he gets the ball. How many times have you
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  Speaker 3: seen him drop a ball that he could.
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  Speaker 4: Catch and run with. It's just dart. He's I don't
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  Speaker 4: mean to slight it.
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  Speaker 3: He's a professional football player, but he doesn't have a
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  Speaker 3: varied body of work.
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  Speaker 4: I think you get him to practice squad.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd be surprised if that's not the route they
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  Speaker 5: take again. I think the story here is not as
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: much the guy's playing around Mac Jones, but the fact
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  Speaker 5: that mac Jones.
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  Speaker 6: When he's in the game.
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  Speaker 5: You feel like there's an NFL quarterback in the game,
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  Speaker 5: and obviously there are NFL quarterbacks, they wouldn't be there.
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  Speaker 5: But he calms things down, he distributes to the right place.
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  Speaker 5: If something happens to Trevor, there is going to be
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  Speaker 5: a high confidence level when they see mac Jones running
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  Speaker 5: onto the field, and that's ninety percent of being a
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  Speaker 5: backup quarterback. Did the guys around you believing and I
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: think they're going to both of.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: Them being very smart with the football in this preseason,
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen interceptions from them, so that's been great as well.
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  Speaker 8: Love to see clean football. Say what's here on jag xam.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Coming up after the break, we'll give you our hot
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: takes as we head into the regular season. He's the
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  Speaker 9: Com where me and Evans chemistry is right now.
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: I feel great about it.
• 15:38
  Speaker 9: We're on the same page as much or more than ever.
• 15:41
  Speaker 9: He's just the guy that works really hard and communicates
• 15:44
  Speaker 9: and wants to get better, and you know, we're just
• 15:46
  Speaker 9: we see things very similarly, and it's cool to see
• 15:49
  Speaker 9: it pay off the guy that works that hard, it's
• 15:51
  Speaker 9: cool to see him to pay off for him.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: So I'm excited for all.
• 15:56
  Speaker 9: I think we've expanded his role and he's like, as
• 15:59
  Speaker 9: you guys have seen, he's doing more. Yeah, so it's
• 16:01
  Speaker 9: just gonna help us. So it's cool to see deferments TYRL.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Lawrence postgame talking about that connection he has with Evan Ingram.
• 16:08
  Speaker 8: Things all looking good too.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Touchdowns in that preseason matchup, and now we're looking ahead
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: to the regular season. So we've got a couple of
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: hot takes for you. Brian, Where are you going with yours?
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: I think this is the best roster of the Jaguars
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: have fielded since nineteen ninety nine, which is the best
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: single season record the Jaguars ever had fourteen to two
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: when they hosted the AFC title game. So I'm saying
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: they're better than the seven team. I'm saying they're better
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: than the seventeen team. And they're better because they have
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: a better quarterback than in either of those seasons.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: Now, oh, seven, you had Fred.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: Taylor and Maurice Jones drew right, but in every other
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: way you're better. I think you're better up front on
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: both lines. I think you're better. You don't have Rasheen Mappis,
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: but I think Tyson Campbell is a guy who is
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: comparable to Rashid doesn't have the takeaways. I just think
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: that this team is better than O seven in that sense.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: I think they're more varied. They've got better pass rushers.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: You don't have Stroud and Henderson, and Stroud was gone
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: by the time we got to November, so it was
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: just Henderson.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: But I'll give the edge to this team. And then
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: in seventeen.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: You don't have a Jalen Ramsey on defense, but I
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: think you match up with your outside guys. I mean,
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: you've got the best pass single season pass rusher in
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: your franchise's history, and John just talked about what Trayvon
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: gives you. And of course you're better at quarterback, and
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: I'll take etn and big speed.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: Projecting a little because that was one year that Leonard
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Fournette was really, really good. But I think you're better
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: at receiver. I think you're better in a whole lot
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: of places. So I think this is the best roster
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: on paper since nineteen ninety nine.
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it'd be very interesting to see if this front
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: that we praised earlier can be as good as at
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: seventeen front. I mean it, Claius and Dante, it broke
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: up so fast that it was almost like watching the
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: meteor across the sky.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: And get Marcel Darius in the middle. But I mean,
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: I think Devon Hamilton health abruptive.
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: That's sort of the as the plateau to get to.
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: I think this team can do it.
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: And again, to me, that and Trevor Lawrence being better
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: in big situations is the key to the whole season.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: My hot take is that the depth is real, and
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: that's not that hot a take.
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: We've seen it all pre season.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: But it takes time when you're building something, which Doug
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: and Trent started building this in twenty twenty two, It
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: takes time to get depth. It takes time to get
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: the right guys in positions. But to me, this team
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: is the deepest that I've seen around here, maybe since
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: I got back in twenty eleven. I mean it, when
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: you talk about the corners, you can get down to
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: Mac Jones is obvious depth. You feel like any receiver
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: you put in the game.
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: Can be productive. I don't know if you've felt that
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: way all the time in the past.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: So not just because they've three you o the past
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: two preseasons, but that's a little indicator. But it just
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: feels even linebacker, right, if a linebacker gets hurt this year,
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: you're not panicking. When Chad Mooman goes in, you feel like, okay,
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: well he can get you through. So there's not that
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: many spots where one injury is hold your breath, except
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: the obvious, which is Josh Allen and and not Tario Lawrence.
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: They're a franchise guys.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: The story of the season I think is going to
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: play out because there will be guys from that twenty
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: twenty three draft class, that big draft class that we've
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: chronicled the story ull through camp, we'll have to go
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: in and play. And it feels as if the coaching
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: staff has these guys, especially some of those defensive guys
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: like Ben Treump ready to play.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: You mentioned Trent and Doug. That's it.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: It's drafting and developing, and I think they've done a
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: really good job and at the end of this year,
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: we're going to look back at that twenty twenty three
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: draft class and say it's a really important draft class
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: in franchise history.
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: Would it surprise you at all, either of you if
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: at the end of the season in Week seven team
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: of Intro Miller, Tank Bigsby, and Parker Washington have had
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: big roles for three or four games of the season,
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: that is pretty significantly different.
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: Than what we were talking about last summer.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Kind of think Breton Strange and Tyler Lacy are gonna
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: have moments this season too.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Telling a bounce. Now, it's just time to win for
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: my hot tache. I'm gonna focus a little bit on
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: the offense over the defense. I think the offense is
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: gonna come together first. It's not a slight on the defense.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: It's just time for this offense. Trevor Lawrence has been
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: here for a while. He now has all the weapons
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: around him, has a starting a line that is healthy.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: So if this team is gonna be successful this year,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: they cannot do what they did last year, which is
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: start out cold and try to figure things out on
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: the fly.
• 20:42
  Speaker 8: They need to come.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Out and score early and often and get that rhythm going.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Get that, you know, get the rookie involved. In Brian
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Thomas Junior his talents and get everything rolling so that
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: way when things get a little tougher middle of the year,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: they have a late buy all that stuff. Things are
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: in motion and then when the defense can come around
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: and back it up.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Well, you were in the in the room last Thursday
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: when we talked to Trevor. That is clearly his intent.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: That is clearly what he is focused on and motivated on.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: He's an impressive guy, always has been since the day
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: he showed up, but there's just something different about him
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: in person this year. He's still pissed off about the
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: way last season ended. And for a guy who is
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: as laid back as he tends to come off as
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: in private, he sure doesn't seem that way.
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: To make well, there's got to be a feeling for
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: these guys. It's time the Trevor's heard it. There was
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: doubt after that after last season.
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: If they're gonna sign to the long term deal, the
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: pieces are in place around you. There has to be
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: a feeling from Trevor's point of view. If not now,
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: when I mean, and that's way too extreme. He's got
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: a long career ahead of him, but I think he
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: does feel like, you know what, let's go.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: When he said this is the best team he's played on,
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: so take advantage of it.
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: Let's do it. Stay with us on jag Zam.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: We're gonna go over some of the bubble players on
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: the roster, who we think.
• 21:59
  Speaker 8: Is in and who's out.
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• 22:12
  Speaker 7: Mac has played extremely well over the last couple of
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: weeks and really, you know, has bought into what we do.
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: And you know he'll still revert back to his his
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: his patriot ways every now and then, and we got
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: to remind him he's in Jacksonville.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: But he's done a good job.
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: He's done a good job managing and running the offense,
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: getting everybody involved. You know, he sees the field well,
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: throws a good ball, so you know, he's done a
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: good job.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Ben Peter's been very happy with what he's seen from
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones. We think he's fully solidified his spot on
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: this roster, but question marks elsewhere as we're trying to
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: figure things out. So we're going to quickly go over
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: some of our bubble players and talk about whether we
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: think they're in or out alive to cook someone we've
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: talked about up for possible wide receiver six, But do
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: we think he's in or out?
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: I think he's out. I think Tim Jones is your
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: six because I have a special teams a bill.
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I completely.
• 23:03
  Speaker 8: Do you think he makes a practice squad or no?
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he'll be on a practice squad. I
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: think the Jaguars will try to get him to their
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: practice squad. Sometimes if a guy has been around a
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: franchise for a year and gets another opportunity, they may see, Okay,
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: well I'm gonna go try it somewhere else.
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: But they like to have I.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Know they also like Austin Trammell. Seth Williams was on
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: the practice squad last year. They let him go yesterday,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: so perhaps that freeze up for both of those guys
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: to be on the practice squad.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: All right, John col Van Lamon, I don't have a
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: great feel for this one, but I think they will
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: try to keep enough offensive lineman to have him because
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: I think he's ready to play. I don't know that Foster,
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: who I think they need to keep I don't know
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: that he's gonna I don't know that they're gonna feel
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: like he's as ready right now.
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: So yeah, I think Van LaMDA makes it.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: You know, I kind of flippantly we're like no last week,
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: and you asked if I thought that Cole Van Landon
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: would be at the top of the PFF. So I
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: went and did a little homework and talked to Jeff
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Loghaman and Tony Biselli and a coach as well.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: I think he makes it.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: He apparently he has had a tremendous offseason and a
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: really good camp, came back strong, is varied, can play
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: inside or out, can play left or right. They are
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: really high on Cole Van Lannon around here, So I
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: say he makes it.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: Well, this is a guy who's young, who they traded
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: for and who was worth a draft pick relatively recently.
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: So developed kudos.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Vel guy, Yeah to them and Phil Rauscher for taking
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: a young player who a lot of people just kind
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: of thought he's just a guy and turn him into
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: a guy who's more than a guy. You know, he
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: could be the next Tyler Shatley, that guy who shows
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: up here and then stays for ten years because he
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: can do a lot of different things.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I think that might be one of those position groups
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: as well where maybe you wanted to take nine and
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: then now Van Landon's your tenth guy, So that takes
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: someone away from you.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Because Foster's making this team. Yes, you can't expose a
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: fourth round pick and a young to tackle with his talent.
• 25:01
  Speaker 8: All right, John, how about tight ends? If uh Is
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: Daguar gonna make it, are they gonna take four?
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: I think so this is one of those where it
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: gets tough because he's an NFL tight end, he's an
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: NFL player. He's gonna he looks to me like guy's
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: gonna be lead in the league a long time. Do
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: they believe that if he's released they can get him
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: through to the practice squad and have him be a
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: guy that is a I call him lever guys.
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: You can bring him up there around. I kind of
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: think they keep four tight ends.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think they used him in the backfield
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: in Atlanta a couple of times, kind of like they
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: use Brenton Strange.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: So he's at least on the practice squad, but he'll
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: be here.
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: I think he's one of those guys that fans forget
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: and I'm guilty of it too because they're not catching passes.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: But he's a good player for what they need him
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: to do, and a tight end, much like Luke Ferrell,
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: can get lost in conversations because they don't have catches,
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: but be very valuable to the team.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, and sometimes good when you don't hear about them
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: because it thinks they're throwing and just doing their job.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Let's look at the defensive line. Tyler Lacy secondor player.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: They love him, but that's a crowded group. And if
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: we're talking about taking a spot over for offensive line,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: you know you're looking at the defensive line.
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: Is there enough spots for everybody there?
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: I I wouldn't surprise me if they keep ten there
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: as well. Because Ryan Nielsen has said repeatedly that he's
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: gonna bring guys in in waves. It doesn't matter. The
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: starter is only the starter for the first play of
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: the game. According to Nielsen, he wants to do things.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Lacey absolutely is here.
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he was better last year than people thought for
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: a defensive interior lineman relatively low drafted. He's good to
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: be getting snaps as a rookie like that. I think
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: he's definitely here and I think he's gonna.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: Matter, and I think both the rookies from LSU make
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: it as well.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, I think there's a focus on the younger players
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: that they're developing themselves. We saw Trevis Gibson traded earlier
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: today to the Seahawks.
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: That frees up a spot.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Obviously talent talented in camp, but if they're focusing more
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: on the younger they're guys absolutely, and the guys they
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: drafted all right. Final guy I got for you. I'm
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: not sure if he's a full bubble guy, but what
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: this means for the group as a whole. DeAndre Prince,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: who's had a great camp. I know he's one of
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: your favorites, Brian.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: I just I love the kid, his confidence, his belief,
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: and he's made plays both on the practice field and
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: on the game field. Kay, you talked to him when
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: he first showed up, right, and John you've talked to
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: him as well. When you look at this guy, he
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: just looks like an NFL corner. He's got the broad
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: shoulders and the long arms, and he's got what you
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: want plus the mindset to go with it.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: He makes this team.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they like their young corners. They've been
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: trying to draft that for the last couple of years
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: and get better, faster, younger.
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: There. I think they've done it. He's on the team,
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: Jarhan Jones obviously, and Montera Brown.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what about Christian braswell? Right, I mean I wonder
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: if they've got enough room for all these young corners,
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: and if Montera Brown it might not be on the
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: bubble practice squad.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, those will be the questions you draft and
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: develop now, so you got to stick with the young
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: guys for sure.
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: We'll keep an eye on things.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Cut Down Day is tomorrow at four pm, and then
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: next week regular season week one.
• 28:06
  Speaker 8: So we're very excited. Enjoy your week. We'll see you
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: next week and cut
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Down to date is tomorrow at four pm.