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Beyond the Game: A Conversation with Jase About Inclusive Sports · The BJ Show

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Hello, welcome to the special guest here on the BJ Show podcast and I'm going to share with you all this really special guest.
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: But we would like to thank you to the Blackwood Community Centre with all their hard work and support, and as well the Mitchell Council.
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: So let's get on.
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: Why we're here at the Blackwood Community Centre?
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: It's such a fantastic community that they have provided.
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: As a podcaster myself, hopefully, it's sensational.
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: If you're ever interested, we'll go to the friendly staff at the Blackwood Community Centre and then we can sort something out.
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: But anyway, let's get on with the show, All right.
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: So today's guest, first time on board.
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: You know he's known when Matt through basketball and includes the basketball program in the statement called Green Bank, and I don't know how long we know each other.
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: We'll get to that very soon.
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: But let's welcome to our guests Jase.
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: Welcome, mate.
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: Thank you for having me.
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: I'm so happy to be here yeah.
• 1:21
  Speaker 1: So it's something about like let's just tell us about yourself, mate.
• 1:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know where to start, so obviously just like Ben said I've been playing basketball with Pasadena for probably eight years, pretty sure.
• 1:40
  Speaker 2: Then along the way I probably met Ben and then I'm a fanatic addict, you know.
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: So I love my sport.
• 1:47
  Speaker 2: You know you can talk to me about sport all the time and I won't stop talking about it.
• 1:52
  Speaker 2: Live with my parents at home, which I look after them sometimes, so I'm having support my girlfriend as well.
• 1:59
  Speaker 2: I play games for a living.
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: You know playing at playing at home.
• 2:03
  Speaker 2: I work at Spotlight, so I'm only a casual worker so my spare time is just sports.
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: That's my own thing.
• 2:09
  Speaker 2: It is tough for you is it Okay?
• 2:11
  Speaker 1: So we know that before we went on the air.
• 2:15
  Speaker 1: There's so many sports you like, such as, like you know, soccer European soccer, by the way, like the European Cyworlds, the way the European side we'll see that in a moment.
• 2:26
  Speaker 1: Afl, you know the NBA, so the National Basketball Association and the National Basketball League in Australia.
• 2:35
  Speaker 1: So, before we get into that side of it, so this is your first year playing inclusive footy Yep, it sure is.
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: So tell us who got you interested playing for good with saints inclusive?
• 2:52
  Speaker 2: oh, a lot of people so hugo got me into a bit plays for goody as well.
• 2:58
  Speaker 2: So he kind of said maybe I should try and get to that.
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: Then I think you back before, when I started getting to know you a bit, you kind of said I should try and get into that.
• 3:04
  Speaker 2: Then I think you back before, when I started getting to know you a bit, you kind of said, oh, I should try with the inclusive footy.
• 3:09
  Speaker 2: But growing up playing sport and that you know you're going to bump into those little downhill moments where school's gone and that.
• 3:17
  Speaker 2: So that stopped me from playing both soccer and footy.
• 3:21
  Speaker 2: Started basketball by being told look, we've got hype for it, so why don't you try and try out for a team like that?
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: Try it out for the West Adelaide Bearcats.
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: That goes planned, as they said.
• 3:32
  Speaker 2: We kind of need players that are going to bring us to where we are at the league.
• 3:38
  Speaker 2: And then I got told to come to Inclusive.
• 3:42
  Speaker 2: But besides that, woody, yeah, so a bunch of mates, including you, ben.
• 3:46
  Speaker 2: Then my girlfriend having her support me, she saw, um, she said to me, look, you should try and get to play footy.
• 3:53
  Speaker 2: So I looked at the options and goodwood saints were the only one that was decently close to where I live, went to their trainings and then I just enjoyed it.
• 4:03
  Speaker 2: Everyone's so nice and that I became a Saint.
• 4:05
  Speaker 2: So first season's been really fun for me, loving to go out there playing with friends and against friends, especially, like you, when you play with Kenneth Worth, brad you know everyone else, so you know yeah.
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: So you know that sounds really good as well, mate, and you know football is a really good way of you know, not just staying fit, and it's, you know, the challenge part of that but also just being with your mates, and having a crack is a contact spot as well.
• 4:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fantastic.
• 4:38
  Speaker 2: You're socializing well.
• 4:40
  Speaker 2: So, like I started socializing with basketball players at Pasadena and then eventually everyone got to notice me very well and and then now that I'm playing at Goodwood, making some friends along the way from even other clubs, like my mate called Jacob from Christie's thought he was a really nice, cool dude.
• 5:01
  Speaker 2: I think out of the whole league there's a like I know a lot of mates from Kenilworth, especially Goodwood.
• 5:08
  Speaker 2: Meeting people from other clubs is fantastic because you're socialising and then when you're on the field you are wanting to be a winning team, but as well you're like going out to mate, so and then you're just having fun with it.
• 5:21
  Speaker 2: You know it's fantastic, love it, that's great.
• 5:24
  Speaker 1: So on the subject of the inclusion, playing for Goodwood.
• 5:29
  Speaker 1: So what positions have you played at Goodwood this 40 season?
• 5:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they put me in halfback for a little bit and they put me in fullback Something interesting like playing against really tough sides.
• 5:44
  Speaker 2: You get a lot of work done.
• 5:45
  Speaker 2: Backline put me in forward for a little bit to see how I was doing with my kicking.
• 5:51
  Speaker 2: But because it's my first time actually playing footy with in a league, my kicking hasn't been significant at the moment but I'm still learning process and I've got a lot of amazing people who have been teaching me, such as Franz, who's, I think, an amazing ruckman.
• 6:08
  Speaker 2: He puts his body all into that ball and it's just really crazy to watch him do that.
• 6:14
  Speaker 2: Got my girlfriend, who has never played footy before.
• 6:17
  Speaker 2: She's kicked a couple good goals when I've seen her train with footy, so um, and then support work in that.
• 6:22
  Speaker 2: But yeah, so I've seen her train with Cootie and then support work in that.
• 6:25
  Speaker 2: So I've been playing forward for a little bit and then I realised I should be a wing person.
• 6:32
  Speaker 2: They put me in the wing for the majority of the season and I've played a bit of rock roll law in the midfield a little bit more.
• 6:41
  Speaker 2: And then they said to me against T3 Gully, we're going to put you in ruck mate.
• 6:47
  Speaker 2: And I'm like oh T3, you know I was a bit, I was panicked a little bit, but I actually had a good time.
• 6:53
  Speaker 2: But yeah, no, it's fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: So I got to experience all the positions and then hopefully next season they might be telling me what was position, just to stay in for a meanwhile.
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I'll tell you, five years ago I started as a defender.
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: Now I've never went up forward.
• 7:11
  Speaker 1: You know, my first year against Christie's I've kept one or two goals and I'll never, ever forget my very first goal under Kenilworth at Christie's.
• 7:21
  Speaker 1: And they're all right team.
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  Speaker 1: You know they're some great, you know some great talent.
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, players are struggling from, you know, and at Christie's footy club and before, hopefully, you know, someone's got, you know is interested playing footy.
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: You know, go to Christie's to fill up those numbers.
• 7:42
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I've been with Kenneweth and you know, yes, won so many, you know, made grand finals and it's so unusual to play in my first year, to make a grand finals appearance, playing your first year's finals.
• 7:58
  Speaker 1: It's very unusual and playing finals in your first year, being proud, because I tell you, you know, I think you know, because I tell you, you know, I think you know Goodwood are going.
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: You know we're never going to think you guys are going to be easy.
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: Same with us.
• 8:12
  Speaker 1: You know, never, ever, ever think.
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: You know Appleston, you know, never think they're going to be easy.
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: You know you think they're going to be like, okay, they're going to be a challenge, but never, ever, even you versus the weakest team, you know, for example, make the short back and move on with the show.
• 8:31
  Speaker 1: But the West Coast-Adelaide game, well, west Coast's best part they did is pressure the ball.
• 8:37
  Speaker 2: They pressured it, they basically they gave the Crows something to work with, like they did it against poor Adelaide.
• 8:43
  Speaker 2: Like I went to that game and I was like we're going to beat West Coast, you know, we were being smashed in that first half.
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: No, I can't imagine seeing losing to West Coast a bottom ladder team who won a grand final in 2018 and now have just struggled with having their players go on the field and get completely smashed by a team.
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: But yeah, no, we got in there at the end, which was really good, and same did Crows.
• 9:12
  Speaker 2: They made sure they kept kicking goals.
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: The only issue was West Coast were wanting to do a big upset and they almost got away with it to that full quarter where Crows were just kicking it to Phil Thorpe he's just a big man, and they away with it.
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: To that full quarter where Crows were Just kicking it to Phil Thorpe.
• 9:25
  Speaker 2: He's just a big man and they can give it to him.
• 9:28
  Speaker 2: He's not like Tex Walker.
• 9:30
  Speaker 2: Once he's in that center he's even got three opponents going against him and they can't beat him.
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: And, fun fact, phil Thorpe played for Goodwood Saints.
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, he played.
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what grade level.
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: I think he played with the A's for a while and then got selected to Crows and honestly, as I'm a Port supporter, I find him playing Crows really teary-gray, like very annoying, because he's such a fantastic player.
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: I really, like my girlfriend, got to meet him at a special event at Goodwood, which was made me a bit jealous.
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: But if I was there I would have said something probably a bit mean to him.
• 10:10
  Speaker 2: But no, I love when he's coming down to Goodwood Saints because he's an inspiration to everyone, but just when he plays against, like Ford or anyone else, I'm like par six.
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, an interesting fact the mother played playing for the Crows is Rory Led and I've actually met him.
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: I'm twirling him, but he's actually a really nice bloke.
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: He actually did some because he was a Cougar junior, like Kenilworth junior player, and he's actually helped out with the juniors.
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: And you know Kenilworth is growing their juniors fantastic.
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: You know I know a few did play for the juniors, as now at Goodwood.
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: So you know we're very much like.
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: We're like neighbours to neighbours.
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: You know, hey, how are you?
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: But when we're on the footy field in the season it's different.
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: I've said it to a lot of people and, like Ben just said, mental health isn't a disability.
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: Disability is where someone's got autism, down syndrome and depression, something that's happened when they've grown up.
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: You know like and um, like adhd, which you classify.
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: Obviously that's a disability and that.
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: But having mental health and going up against a guy that doesn't show it and has like taps going down his arm or something, and you've got these big blokes who have nothing, that don't show anything wrong with them, and then they just murder us.
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: They're like one of my.
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: Obviously I don't want to really bring it up Kilburn.
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: We played Kilburn at Kilburn.
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: I thought their oval was absolutely fantastic.
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: I actually love that oval because everything looks nice and neat.
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: The oval is just nice and clean perfect scoreboard and it's a big oval.
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: It's just.
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  Speaker 2: The only problem is the players and it's about fairness.
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: You've got to be playing fair and you've got to treat the players with respect.
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, so part of it was inclusive sport basketball.
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: So you've been playing for the inclusive basketball program on Monday nights for how many years Like?
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: said, like I said to you at the beginning, I said I think possibly eight, you know eight years, very strong and happy with it.
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: I started in Diamond League, obviously, and then worked my way up to Prem.
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: I did stay in the Diamond League, one at one for a year, where one of my mates I influenced him.
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: Well, I didn't force him to, but I thought, well, he should try and maybe consider joining.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: And he did.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: Uh, george I won't say his name because his name is like really long uh, george neoglias.
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: George, you're listening to it?
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: I hope I'm right.
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I got him into it and he's loved it ever since.
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: He's still playing till it's every day.
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: And, and then I got other mate joined, dan McGaw.
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: He's a sport.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: I'm really jealous of him because his sport is absolutely amazing.
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: He played cricket when he was growing up.
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: Then he stopped to another house and then didn't play any sport till then.
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: And then when I met him in high school, I played basketball, can kick a footy, and I said you've got to do something with it, you've got to be a star player, do something.
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: But he never did because he was going through some issues.
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: Then he eventually came to me and George one day and said I want to play inclusive.
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: And I'm like well, sure, obviously he's playing still every day.
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: He plays with my girlfriend, sarah, and George, so they're on the same team and I coach that team as well.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: So a bit of a rundown.
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: I coach Champions League.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: I have won two grand finals in a row with the Stars.
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: Then me and my girlfriend have now started coaching together as a duo with the Lions, who are doing well, playing absolutely fantastic basketball.
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: Last Monday, diamond League, sarah, daniel and George.
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: They play for the Warriors and they're second on the ladder.
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: They're doing really fantastic.
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: And as for myself, playing with Lames, wayne and Alicia, I do want to talk about Brad and Wayne Doe.
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: I find those two absolutely fantastic people, inspiration to me.
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know about you, ben, because you have played with Brad.
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: Don't know about Wayne, but both of them are absolutely fantastic people, wayne having a lot of skill, and Brad as well, big inspiration to my life.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: They started playing.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: When I started playing Prem, I was with Wayne for the very first time and he kind of welcomed me into the league, as well as Alicia.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: And then, after that season, when I officially started Prem, I was with Brad for I think two seasons, won two grand finals in a row with him and um, and I was just very inspired by him and I was very thankful to play with him.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: But then, obviously, with this how the system runs, you've got to move players around to make more fair.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: A lot of teams struggle in the league, so everyone moves around, but it's also about socialising.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: So I met a lot of great people along the way, but no, you've got to bump into that special person and they're going to be a variation.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so interesting fact there, James.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: I've got so much experience of coaching and I can't remember if I can remember roughly when I started coaching and I've learned one tip of the person has taught me.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: But December this year will be my 20th year non-stop playing this comp and I'll tell you right now.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: It's crazy Because I've got a mate of mine.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: So I went to a school which used to be in maui called named saint anne's and a fellow that I used to do indoor soccer and I'll share that a little bit down the track but he got me into basketball named jack, and he got me deeply into basketball and I didn't know anything about basketball.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: One thing I can remember, jay, is never wear sandals playing basketball.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: I was only 11 years old.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: I had I'm unbelievable I wasn't in basketball gear.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: I'm like you need to wear enclosed shoes, mate.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: No, I never got told.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Mum and Dad never got told.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: And I remember the basketball program used to be run by a fellow named danny and he run the program for a really long time as well.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: There's been a few people from the program, but you've been around with paul and renita, so I've how many grand I have been bring, bring.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: I have been with both red and white.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: I, I, you know.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: One year we were totally dominating with Trevor Brad's dad and we totally dominated and Brad went overseas because basketball commits and lost the chance of making grand final.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: So that was just painful.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: That Another year that I had surgery on my knee, which is right here.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I'll explain that offline.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: So I couldn't make it to that final because I have stitches, so I couldn't play, play in the butt for a week or two.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: But it's life.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: But tell me something, and I've been coaching and trying to remember.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: I think it was just before I was in high school, just after, I think it was 2012, 2013, and I went for over 10 years.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I took a season off recently.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I need a break.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I just need to break, because the situation is I've done it for so long and so many grand finals are made up here incredible I went up it.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be with toby if you.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Toby does do an inclusive podcast, maybe very briefly, but we're scared to share that very soon.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: But so he doesn't share that in a big way.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: He's actually quite in my opinion.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: You want to know, but share your podcast.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: You've got to share it, you know.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: It's so important and he's, I do.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: I have enjoyed enjoying his podcast, you know, and with todd, and I think it's a fantastic podcast and I've been doing this podcast for too long, like almost four years, three, four years now in September, so in the next week will be four years.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: So, buffer, I have to count how long that.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Look.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Getting back to this inclusive basketball, look, I, there used to be two divisions and I used to be with with a few.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I went to school with quite a few.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I know from that basketball program which you have met over the last eight years, which is like great people, you know, but I know mainly like toby, katherine, a few others, but used to be in the like I said the second, and they introduced the third division when Paul took over.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Now, it wasn't called inclusive basketball.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: The word inclusive for this kind of sport wasn't even a thing.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: So how can we, you know how can our coach?
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: You know good players are too good for this comp.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: They need to go up.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: So now they've got a full division, which is fantastic all over.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: It's absolutely like.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: It's gone to a new level.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: It's gone.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: So basically, champions League, it's mixed with Champions League and Diamond League players who don't get much of a ball.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: So you've got Champions League, you've got like I don't know if you have any clue who these players are.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: I've coached Patrick, todd, such as those people Like Patrick and Todd.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: When I coached them, they were the dynamic duo.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: They carried the stars.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I was like, not in a mean way, like a really good way.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: They shared the ball as much as I can.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I used to call Patrick that really big the Russian bag.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Literally, he gets that ball and he bounces and then he gets it in and, um, he's still got a long way to go, but he's uh, coaching.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Those two were really a fun time, especially winning two grand finals with them.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: I started coaching paul got me to coach them when I win, uh, probably like four or five years ago no, probably three years ago, and because I keep thinking basketball is always two season in within a year but no, he, he came um, he sent me a text and he said, um, we were low on coaches and he said Champions League.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: And I was like for real, like big honor, like I thought it was fantastic because I had no experience.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: All I knew was how to dribble basketball and and shoot, that's it.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: But coaching was a big, big level for me.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: And to learn and socialise yet again.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: And coaching the Stars, our first season a bit of a rocky start because I was getting used to the players.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: But by the second season we were flying through and they'd got their first ever grand final.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Because apparently Paul, I think, told me the Stars never won a grand final and I'm kind of emotional because I've seen the whole team so happy and then obviously going to win back to back was fantastic.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Then we played the third season of grand finals, but obviously it'll be against a really tough time team run by a really great coach who's a really good reminder as well, and but yeah, no.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Then from there it goes down.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: But the main thing is they're having fun out there.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: You know they're skiing goals, even if it's a win or lose, just there and you're having fun absolutely I don't think there's been a couple times where the but I think it's mostly creme I've never seen in champions league at all.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: No, no drama whatsoever.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: No, no arguments, no fights, nothing, which has been fantastic.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: And having that gold league now mixed with some Diamond League players in Champions League, it's a fair league.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: You've got some teams that have the stronger teams and then see how it plays out.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: You know, like I don't pay much attention to it because it's all mixed within the same times as diamond league, coaching and prem.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: You know, so you don't get to really watch their games, but I have gotten glances at them and they're very, very.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: They look like everyone's having fun and getting much of the ball, unlike in diamond league and prem well prem everyone gets a lot of the ball because it's a very fast-paced league.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: But honestly, I kind of my own opinion I find diamond league very fast-paced league.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: But honestly, I kind of in my own opinion, I find Diamond League very fast-paced because when I started coaching Sarah and Daniel and that it was like quick as hell.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I couldn't focus on where the ball was and that they brought the ball up and down and it's really fast-paced.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: But in Prem it's all about patience and then, when the time comes, your team's going to score or something out of it, you know.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: So, like I said, I've coached for such a long time and, like I said, getting back to what I was saying about this type of person named Tracy and one thing you never do is shout, it's like shouting at a child.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Now this person in the room named style, your girlfriend.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I've had to coach her why she went up a division with a mother fella, you know we're not gonna, I'm, and the way I coach them is yes, you go down division, not getting confidence, and it's saying I think that's unfair.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Then going up the next division proves I have done my part May not get a contribution.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Well done, bj.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: You've done so well with these two.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: They're improving.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coaching.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter if you win a medal round.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I've learned this in National Special Olympics, my fourth year, I had six new national champs coming national champ coming national champ, championship and for basketball, now I'll be.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: If you know, if the coach chose me, if they chose a captain, I'm more likely to be there because my experience and I told them enjoy the experience, don't worry about the medal, because the medal is a luxury.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: It's like when, when you win money, it's a luxury.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: So tell me something about the team.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: On coaching, I do not care if we win or lose, all about giving them a go.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, it is a competition.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone wants to be a winner.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: But I have struggled to have and I get annoyed hearts.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: You know that we brought a new fella into the team which, changing over to another team and to make my team a little bit balanced, and I was so happy as I was, but like I was so happy because I missed patrick and pod as well.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I coached them, you know.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we've made a few grand finals.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: You know, in my I haven't made a grand final for so long, but I had to realize that.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: How can I change my coaching with?
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: But it's not about you know, okay, who's who, because that's not.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I think that's a lot.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: You know, it's all about giving a go and one thing is really important is catching the ball, giving them a go.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: That's what it's all about giving a go.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: And one thing that's really important is catching the ball, giving them a go.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: That's what it's actually all about, and I've got a few players who have that.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I can have the weakest team and still win.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: It's common.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: It is common.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Same here.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I could name a couple of players as well.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sort of.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: It's not the thing of a weak team, but it's always everyone's a champion on a team, exactly, and you know you can have, like I say, you can have the slowest to the quickest and the slowest can win.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: You know, I've seen that happen.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I don't like the word weak, because no one's weak of any making me in a very short term, no one, ever, all but one each game and one more than 50 points on average, and there was a question on that and we actually, unfortunately, I wasn't well for that grand final and actually I saw the last step and I think it was a very even even game if I wasn't there.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: So but I I, since I've played basketball and football, it's changed my life.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: It's changed, I've improved myself in five years.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: So I just want to let you know me, it doesn't take a year or two.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: It could take five years, yes, and you got plenty in the tank and more than me.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know I've got plenty of myself, but I'm coming at the end of my day.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I'm almost at 100 games Kennewick, so you're a long way, mate.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I'm long, yeah.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I'm going far away and mate, enjoy every, every, and I know that you have great leadership at Goodwood and I know that for a fact that they'll look a lot.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: You said Francis Luke, you know.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Oh no, luke's fantastic.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: He looks after the club.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: There's so many I don't want to keep calling them the same names and that.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: But yeah, like Luke Jesse, I actually find really good leadership from other clubs.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Obviously, brad, he's obviously looking at him and he's actually really kind on the field, like even when I did when I, when we first played you this season I think I tried to do a really good tackle or something and um or no, I don't really remember there was a moment where I got rid of the ball and it was probably really good.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Then it went straight to one of you guys and then you kicked the goal.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Brad just goes.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Still, that was a really good kick and I'm glad to have someone tell me that I did something good.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: I'd rather have someone go.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Why did you not kick it or pass it off?
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: You know, and if you want to like, it's always good to like.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: If you get a mark, take it in.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Because I've had that moment a couple of times where someone recently against TG Gully or no Appleston in the finals, I was wide open in near 50 and no one was near me and I called out Luke's name and he kicked straight towards me and I was like I got it because no one's near me and I marked it and I felt very proud that I did something without screwing it up and I didn't get to do.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Really it was not the best kick, but it still got to Ethan and he tried to do a banana kick around but that went to become a behind.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: But I still feel like if it was a little bit more higher he could have gotten up and got that mark.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: But still I hope to find that I did.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I still got my team to that point where we were at closing a goal, getting our team back into the game.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: But you know that was a really strong side.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got, you know a lot to you know, up for a challenge.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: But, okay, moving from side, from inclusive, because we've gone quite a bit and anyone's listened to this, this is actually, you know, important to know most terms of any sort.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: So, yes, you go for Port Adelaide.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: You fail, yep, all respectful, you know, if someone is, you know, against a team quite rudely, that's not a true person.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: And I, you know you like to encourage other people and then we're not going to say this name, you just started early in the show.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Go for that team.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: But he's, he's a true crow and the north supporter, which I am as well.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I'll be going to the north central scheme and I cannot wait.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: You know, right, look, I tell you, you know, right now we're having, we have interviewed the channelers, especially PJ and Richie not Richie, but they are die-hard Central supporters and they can.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: You know, when it's a good time to make a stir of the pot about football, it's fine, but when it's not, you know, before a game of football, it is not the right time.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: And I tell you right now you can do it after than never before, because it puts that person on.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you know, I'm the clothes and all that.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: So we spoke this off the end.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Now, share what team you go for.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: I know the team, but tell us what team you follow european, no, no, what team do you follow in the nba, in the nba boston celtics.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: I'm such a proud supporter.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: I have a lot of merchandise at home.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: I came back from Melbourne got a poster of their champion winning year Fantastic, loving how they play.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: That was probably the best year I've ever seen because we were top of the ladder in the league and the conference.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: We were top of the ladder, uh, in the league and the and the conference.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Remind you, uh, that we were at the top of the conference.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: And then we just smashed through the whole playoffs.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Uh, beating the heat.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I hate the heat.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: So sorry, heat fans, I just find the heat.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: You guys had some really great players now, but you've lost jimmy butler to golden state.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: But we all knew that he was going there, did Bullet Lakers when I started knowing about the NBA.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Interesting to know about that.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because, well, kobe era as well.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: But then I did bagwagon at the point where I downloaded the app found them on the bottom of the ladder and then I saw Boston on the top and I really liked their logo.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: So I thought I will become an Irishman.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Boston isn't really Irish, so it's just how their, their accents are very different.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: So I know, love Boston, don't have a particular favorite part like I do.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Like, oh, I was only look at him.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: I was looking at his name Clayton, something Clayton, I don't know and I found him really intriguing because that final, that whole year, when we won the league, he was hitting half-court shots like probably like a couple of times in that league, and then he just finished it off winning it, winning the title at home, and hitting a half foot shot, which was buzzing.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: You know, I had that save on my phone many many times.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah so interesting that you started with the lakers.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: I used to go.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: I'm lakers, I don't know why.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Nothing to do with purple, and it does, yes, to do with kobe bright and amazed, yes.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: So so, yeah, why?
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Why kobe bright, the amazing fella like I had to used to go for the phoenix suns.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Oh say nash, why phoenix suns?
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Don't know why, I've got a step, they just stand out.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Or you were just barricading for a team that are very competing, but you but you just like, like it's with with European.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: I always back up for the teams that that haven't done really well and deserve something.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: So, like Liverpool supporter, but I was really happy Tottenham got a trophy from that long and it was just emotional seeing them especially going against your team.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: We'll discuss a bit very briefly of that.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: So we need to get on with the continuing on the show.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: But, like I said, phoenix is still part of my.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't mind them.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: They were struggling for a long time.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: They recently won a championship but didn't go through with them.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I've always been.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know them.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: They were struggling for quite a long time.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: They recently won a championship but didn't go through with them.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I've always been don't know why Lakers Historical, it's a historical.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Moving on.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, you've been in soccer, so soccer.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: We discussed about that, but that was my next.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Partly of your favorite sport is Liverpool, man United, so cricket, will you?
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: like cricket.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: It's hard to talk about that.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll make this really the shortest.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Yes because, cricket, it's fun to watch the World Cup.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: I did actually stay up to watch when Australia played India.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: In India.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: And I watched when Australia were fielding.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: I saw India were cricket batting and then I fell asleep before even Australia batted, but woke up and then I found out Australia came back and won that With the Big Bash.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: I do like to go.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: I went to watch it for the first time.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: I thought I loved it because I knew I understood how it went and it was really quick to understand it.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: It's just, it's not really.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: It's a slow game, would you say that?
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: When it's music, there's entertainment and I do enjoy it.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I have been gone with Hugo a couple of times and we haven't won actually.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: But you know they've struggled for so many seasons and when we come good we're like a really good team.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: But when that part there's one more thing and then you know the LA 36ers cannot like the team.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: I actually watched some highlights on KO Sport Wednesday, the 27th and I was like, well, I actually like bowling and I didn't realize they were playing against the Hawks, the 2025 NBL 25 champ.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: They haven't won a championship since 2002.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: So look-season basketball.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: For me it's great because you play a couple games and then I think they've got some u of n basketball teams, yeah, and I can't I just can't wait to see them in in action 36 is just saying this.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Now we're we're in it this time.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: We've got Bryce Cotton.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: We stole him from Perth Art Tribals and once I woke up and heard the news I was freaking out.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: I had to call my girlfriend Sarah and I was like we've got Bryce Cotton?
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: And she was kind of confused until I showed her who he was and she got really excited.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Montrezl Harrell, having a big guy, another big guy, him and Humphries Isaac Humphries two really, really tall players, unbeatable.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I've had spoken to a couple of people who think about Montrezl.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: One of them just guards him and doesn't really like him, but he's helped the clubs.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: We played finals for the first time last season and we made it.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: We beat the first final I think it was an elimination Against.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Sydney I think Sydney, yeah, yeah, sydney.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I saw that game and the way that you know the team.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Yes, we did still struggled, we did.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: And you know Mike Wells, big proud mate, because you know we do have young local talent.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Talent, yes, which is what we're all about.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: We should Good to have some international talent, but, most important, you know the new generation, as they call it.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: It's just a new level for the National Basketball League.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Come to Australia and play this level.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's just a new level for the National Basketball League.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Come to Australia and play this level is huge.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: It's fantastic having European and American players who have gone Australia.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: They've got Bali and with Montrez coming here, some have actually thought maybe coming, like hearing there was going to be news that.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I don't got his first name.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: I think it's Matthew Lillard.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know one of the Lillards.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: He said there was rumors that he would come here, but I think majority of Melbourne, but I think that was false and I think it was fake.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: But no, montrez has kind of brought and given ideas to americans that you don't have to play in the nba if you're really, if you're getting to the point where you're like montrez, who I think he was getting to the point where he's getting tired, wants a break from the nba, go to australia, play a couple games, play a couple seasons, like what he's doing now.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: He's on his contract for this year and that's done.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Then I think he's going back to the NBA.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: But it's giving other American NBA players ideas that they go take a break and come back.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: So I think that's what Montrez is doing.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: He's going to go back to the NBA next season but, like I said, the Sixers are going to be going through a really good year, stolen, some really great players and I'm already in the hopes of getting a Guernsey-Grass.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Cup.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah Well, when I found that, and you know also, you know Jack White.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: He's another one.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: He played for Melbourne.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I can't remember that young fella.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: He's from New Zealand.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, Sheldon or something Shannan Something but yeah, he played for Melbourne United.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: A few from Melbourne United actually as well.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: So anyway, mate, look, thank you so much for coming on and we're going to wrap it up.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but hopefully we can do it again.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'd love to man.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: I'm so happy being on here.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: I love we can do it again.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'd love to man, I'm so happy being on here, I love.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Like you know, it's kind of a good way to have people know who I am and literally, like I said, I talk non-stop about sports.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry if I got carried away.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all right, all good.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: No, I loved it.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me so that's our guest jace.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: So once again.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: That's our guest Jase.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: So, once again, that's the intro from the Mitchell Council and Blackwood Community Centre for today's show and sponsor.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: So that is all.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more exciting episodes.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: All right, thank you all.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: B-joe shows out.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Bye for now.