Latest / Real America with Dan Ball / 6/23/26 -- Dan Ball W/ Rep. Ralph Norman, Ken Cuccinelli, Darin Selnick, Steve Rogers, Randy Sutton.
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Straight ahead on Real America tonight, Billiams stolen, international fugitives captured,
- 0:05Speaker 1: and a major new push to overhaul American immigration. Finally,
- 0:11Speaker 1: South can Congressman Ralph normal Leo tonight with more on
- 0:14Speaker 1: trying to get all the migrants to assimilate.
- 0:18Speaker 2: We'll see if Congress agrees.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Plus a major legal blow tonight for Green card holders
- 0:25Speaker 1: as a divided Supreme Court hands the Trump administration an
- 0:28Speaker 1: expansive new victory over immigration and their deportation powers. I
- 0:33Speaker 1: can't believe it was six to three go figure liberals
- 0:36Speaker 1: from the Scotis and two more suspects in federal custody
- 0:39Speaker 1: tonight as investigators revere more details of the chilling plot
- 0:43Speaker 1: involving explosive laden drones that were aimed at the White
- 0:47Speaker 1: House UFC two fifty event. I'm dan ball and Real
- 0:51Speaker 1: America starts right now.
- 1:06Speaker 3: These individuals then used the taxpayer money to bankroll multimillion
- 1:11Speaker 3: dollar homes, luxury vehicles like one hundred and thirty five
- 1:14Speaker 3: thousand dollars Maserati, jewelry like an eight hundred and sixty
- 1:17Speaker 3: five thousand dollars Bliguari necklace, and to top it all off,
- 1:22Speaker 3: to fund the construction of a four point six million
- 1:25Speaker 3: dollar hotel at a beach resort in the Philippines.
- 1:30Speaker 2: We're taking back the money, the.
- 1:32Speaker 3: Luxury cars, the jewelry, and these alleged fraudsters will face justice.
- 1:38Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 1:39Speaker 1: And can I just quickly say, where have the past
- 1:42Speaker 1: administrations been when it comes to finding our money that
- 1:47Speaker 1: fraudsters have been blowing?
- 1:52Speaker 2: W Obama Biden? Do you think Harris would be doing this?
- 1:57Speaker 1: Do you think if we turn DC back over to
- 2:00Speaker 1: Democrats come November in the midterms, come twenty twenty eight
- 2:03Speaker 1: for the White House, that you think they're going to
- 2:05Speaker 1: be going after the fraudsters they're the ones benefiting. Just
- 2:09Speaker 1: hours ago, the acting Attorney General Todd Blanche announcing the
- 2:12Speaker 1: largest health care fraud takedown in American history. And again, folks,
- 2:17Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep going off prompt and reminding you while
- 2:19Speaker 1: you're out there pissing and moaning about you didn't like
- 2:22Speaker 1: the deal with Iran, while you're pissing and moaning about
- 2:25Speaker 1: Israel or Apak and Jew hating all day on social
- 2:28Speaker 1: media and doom scrolling. If you put the Democrats back
- 2:32Speaker 1: in control, do you honestly think any of this would
- 2:35Speaker 1: be happening, a closed border, tax cuts, finding billions of money,
- 2:39Speaker 1: our money in fraud. It all goes away. So keep
- 2:43Speaker 1: believing the Tuckers and the Canvases and the idiots out
- 2:46Speaker 1: there that are making themselves rich off of you, doom scrolling. Sorry,
- 2:51Speaker 1: but this stuff's really pissing me off. We are this
- 2:54Speaker 1: close to losing the republic to radical socialist, Marxist liberal demoks.
- 3:00Speaker 1: And I'm so sick and tired of hearing people out
- 3:02Speaker 1: there pissing and moaning. Trump's not doing enough, Trump's not
- 3:05Speaker 1: doing what he said. Trump's gives an endless war, Trump's Bibby's.
- 3:07Speaker 2: You know what. Federal prosecutors have charged four.
- 3:11Speaker 1: Hundred and fifty five defendants, including ninety doctors and licensed
- 3:15Speaker 1: medical professionals, in a sweeping sweeping bus that spans forty
- 3:20Speaker 1: five states. Folks, this is historic stuff. Nobody does this.
- 3:25Speaker 1: You should be thanking the Trump administration. The Just Department
- 3:29Speaker 1: says these schemes ripped off more than six point five
- 3:32Speaker 1: billion dollars in false claims. That screws over the people
- 3:36Speaker 1: that really do have problems and need to file claims.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Investigators say the stolen tax funds were used to finance.
- 3:43Speaker 2: Jaw dropping lifestyles.
- 3:44Speaker 1: You heard what he said, cars and resorts and necklaces,
- 3:48Speaker 1: agents of seas more than one hundred and eighty two
- 3:51Speaker 1: million dollars in cash so far.
- 3:53Speaker 2: Officials say this wasn't just a financial crime.
- 3:57Speaker 1: The fraudulent schemes, which target vulnera hospice and wounded care patients,
- 4:02Speaker 1: allegedly caused significant patient harm even death. Meantime, the DOJ
- 4:09Speaker 1: has filed a massive lawsuit against the New York State
- 4:11Speaker 1: Department of Health and a private contractor, alleging a ten
- 4:15Speaker 1: billion dollar fraud scheme within the state's medicaid program Go figure.
- 4:19Speaker 1: The lawsuit claims the Public Partnerships, a for profit group
- 4:23Speaker 1: managing New York's consumer directed personal assistance program, skimmed the
- 4:27Speaker 1: profits off the top from home healthcare bills See how
- 4:31Speaker 1: they do. Federal authorities accused the company of gross mismanagement
- 4:35Speaker 1: and making false statements to secure the contracts. The DOJ
- 4:39Speaker 1: also targeting the state, calling its oversight a sham bid
- 4:43Speaker 1: process that ultimately betrayed the public trust. Federal prosecutors have
- 4:48Speaker 1: also announced charges in a welfare crackdown involving fifteen people,
- 4:52Speaker 1: eleven of them illegal aliens.
- 4:55Speaker 2: Out of Massachusetts.
- 4:56Speaker 1: The case tied to what else government benefits like Medicaid,
- 5:00Speaker 1: solid security, unemployment insurance, and good old snap. That's right,
- 5:05Speaker 1: the food stamps officials say the alleged theft involves nearly
- 5:08Speaker 1: one and a half million dollars. There the case being
- 5:11Speaker 1: framed as part of a wider enforcement push against benefit abuse.
- 5:15Speaker 1: This as one of the FBI's most wanted fraud suspects
- 5:18Speaker 1: has been captured down in the Philippines. Herbert Leon Kimball
- 5:23Speaker 1: pled guilty to healthcare fraud in twenty nineteen, but skip town,
- 5:27Speaker 1: skip the country back in twenty twenty four. Well, guess what,
- 5:32Speaker 1: there's a new sheriff in town. It's called Trump, not Biden.
- 5:34Speaker 2: The autopen.
- 5:35Speaker 1: So this scumbag got arrested by the Bier of Immigration
- 5:38Speaker 1: earlier this month and got extradited right back here to
- 5:40Speaker 1: the good old US of A. Kimball's scheme involved more
- 5:43Speaker 1: than one billion dollars in fraudulent medicaid billing.
- 5:47Speaker 2: How about that?
- 5:49Speaker 1: And in a separate major fraud case, a fugitive accused
- 5:52Speaker 1: in a massive medicaid scheme was captured in Turkey and
- 5:56Speaker 1: brought back to the US to face Justice. This case
- 5:59Speaker 1: involves in a ledged three point seven billion dollars in
- 6:02Speaker 1: Medicare fraud. Federal officials describe the transfers as part of
- 6:06Speaker 1: a coordinated international effort. Just another example of how the
- 6:10Speaker 1: Trump DOJ is out there doing global law enforcement and
- 6:15Speaker 1: making people pay for their crimes against the American tax payers.
- 6:20Speaker 1: Now in Washington, Tennessee, Congressman Andy Ogles and Alabama Senator
- 6:24Speaker 1: Tommy Tubberville have introduced the New Assimilation Act, a major
- 6:29Speaker 1: immigration overhaul designed to end mass migration and try to
- 6:34Speaker 1: restore American cultural cohesion. And I got to say, this
- 6:39Speaker 1: is stuff I voted for.
- 6:40Speaker 2: I hope you did too.
- 6:41Speaker 1: The new eighty two page bill replaces the nineteen sixty
- 6:44Speaker 1: five Heartseller Act, ending birthright citizenship and eliminating the Diversity
- 6:50Speaker 1: visa lottery. It also strengthens asylum standards. Yeah, how about
- 6:55Speaker 1: we do better vetting. It eliminates chain migration, and it
- 6:58Speaker 1: mandates e we verify nation wide. Congressman Ogeles, co author
- 7:04Speaker 1: of the bill, says the Act aims to ensure immigration
- 7:07Speaker 1: serves the US interests. Yeah, how about that? Senator Tumblerville
- 7:11Speaker 1: emphasizing that coming to America is a privilege, okay, And
- 7:16Speaker 1: if you're coming here, then you should commit to the
- 7:19Speaker 1: American way of life. Several Republicans have signed onto this legislation,
- 7:25Speaker 1: like our next guest, and I got to say bravo
- 7:28Speaker 1: to them. There's nothing racist about telling someone you should
- 7:31Speaker 1: assimilate to America if you're coming here for a better life,
- 7:36Speaker 1: to escape whatever third world, you know what hole you're.
- 7:39Speaker 2: Trying to get away from.
- 7:41Speaker 1: He sets off the House Financial Services Budget Rules Committees,
- 7:44Speaker 1: self caline Congressman Ralph Norman, Ralph, welcome back. I'm so
- 7:49Speaker 1: glad that you signed onto this. You I saw, mister Babin,
- 7:51Speaker 1: Corey Mills. There's a whole bunch of Republicans. I wish
- 7:54Speaker 1: all and I don't know what the number is anymore,
- 7:56Speaker 1: but all two hundred and nineteen of you, whatever number
- 7:59Speaker 1: we have of should be voting.
- 8:01Speaker 2: Actually, this should be bipartisan.
- 8:03Speaker 1: There should be Democrats saying, if you want to come
- 8:05Speaker 1: here for a better life, then let's try to assimilate.
- 8:09Speaker 1: And when you see how many of these fraudsters that
- 8:12Speaker 1: are stealing billions of our tax dollars, Ralph are illegal,
- 8:15Speaker 1: criminal aliens or sucked off our government, you know what,
- 8:18Speaker 1: as a DACA person, then yeah, we need stricter rules
- 8:22Speaker 1: and we need people to want to be an American.
- 8:25Speaker 2: Welcome back, Ralph, glad to be here.
- 8:28Speaker 4: Dan.
- 8:28Speaker 5: You know this should be should be adopted by and
- 8:32Speaker 5: voted for by every Democrat and every Republican. Look, you know,
- 8:37Speaker 5: immigration that has existed under the Biden administration has just
- 8:41Speaker 5: been a free for all. We have over six hundred
- 8:44Speaker 5: and fifty thousand to seven hundred thousand that came on
- 8:47Speaker 5: a green card with basically no skill set, no checks
- 8:51Speaker 5: and balances. And what Dissimilation Act does is put consequences
- 8:55Speaker 5: in place, puts things in writing that won't allow.
- 8:59Speaker 6: People to come or illegally first in the first place.
- 9:02Speaker 6: It just stay forever. Puts a three year time limit
- 9:05Speaker 6: on it.
- 9:06Speaker 5: And again, this shouldn't even be a question because look
- 9:09Speaker 5: at the crimes that have been committed and look at
- 9:12Speaker 5: the strain that has put on this country that has
- 9:14Speaker 5: taken a long time to correct. But Trump administration is
- 9:18Speaker 5: doing that.
- 9:18Speaker 1: Yeah, have you ever, Ralph, You've been in politics a while,
- 9:22Speaker 1: I have never seen in doing news thirty plus thirty
- 9:26Speaker 1: three years now, I can't remember administration that has ever
- 9:30Speaker 1: been cracking down on fraud at this scale, at this level.
- 9:34Speaker 2: I mean, you just heard that one.
- 9:35Speaker 1: Bust that the AG announced today forty five different states,
- 9:40Speaker 1: and we're sending cops overseas to bust these scumbags and
- 9:43Speaker 1: bring them back to justice. Never saw this from a
- 9:46Speaker 1: Republican or a Democrat administration in my lifetime.
- 9:50Speaker 5: No, in it unbelievable that Nick Shirley identified the fraud
- 9:55Speaker 5: in Minnesota. He was just a YouTuber, he was somebody
- 9:59Speaker 5: on a big payroll.
- 10:00Speaker 2: He was just a.
- 10:02Speaker 5: Normal American who took camera and started filming those that
- 10:07Speaker 5: were taking government assistance and.
- 10:09Speaker 6: They weren't performing any type of a task.
- 10:13Speaker 5: And you know the four hundred and some people that
- 10:16Speaker 5: were arrested six point five b and it begs the question,
- 10:20Speaker 5: how much are we missing?
- 10:21Speaker 6: What other frauds are out there?
- 10:23Speaker 5: This is just the beginning, and it's what this president's
- 10:27Speaker 5: doing is putting consequences in place. He's going to get
- 10:30Speaker 5: the maseratis there four hundred thousand dollars necklaces, the million
- 10:36Speaker 5: dollar homes that they're doing that they're able to build
- 10:39Speaker 5: from forgetting money Frauduley and I would dare say they
- 10:42Speaker 5: didn't pay tax on it when they did.
- 10:44Speaker 1: Yeah, no kidding. And the fraud runs ramping across everything.
- 10:47Speaker 1: I mean, you heard my big build up with you.
- 10:49Speaker 1: We're talking about whether it's food stamps, whether it's Medicare
- 10:52Speaker 1: and medicaid, whether it's hospice, whether it's leering centers like
- 10:55Speaker 1: in Minnesota, learning centers, you name it. They have found
- 10:58Speaker 1: a way to gain the system.
- 11:00Speaker 2: Said how much.
- 11:00Speaker 1: Well, since we're finding billions in multiple states, and I'm
- 11:04Speaker 1: sure if we started going back ten twenty years, we
- 11:06Speaker 1: should probably use the T word. I'm sure these fraudsters
- 11:08Speaker 1: have ripped us off to the tune of a trillion
- 11:11Speaker 1: or maybe trillions of dollars over the last couple of decades.
- 11:16Speaker 1: I'm just going to show you some some numbers too
- 11:18Speaker 1: when it comes to illegals and different things happening just
- 11:20Speaker 1: in your state, right, Immigration arrests are up in Tennessee
- 11:25Speaker 1: Ralph two or pardon me, in Tennessee.
- 11:26Speaker 2: Where Andy wrote it.
- 11:27Speaker 1: I want to run some Andy's numbers as well, and
- 11:29Speaker 1: you can tell me how seuth client is looking. Two
- 11:30Speaker 1: hundred and seventy one percent down south there, there's lots
- 11:34Speaker 1: of stuff happening in states that are willing to work
- 11:37Speaker 1: with Trump's CPB Immigration, Customs, Border Protection and actually send
- 11:42Speaker 1: these folks back home.
- 11:44Speaker 2: But others don't want to work with them.
- 11:46Speaker 1: I see that the US Department of Labor now wants
- 11:48Speaker 1: every single government out there, or governor rather in all
- 11:52Speaker 1: fifty states to look into insurance fraud.
- 11:55Speaker 2: That's another one that nobody talks about. There's insurance claims
- 11:58Speaker 2: that they're using dead people filing under people have no idea.
- 12:02Speaker 1: But again, if only twenty five or twenty six states
- 12:05Speaker 1: will work with you because they're red, and twenty five
- 12:07Speaker 1: or six wont because they're blue.
- 12:08Speaker 2: Ralph, how are we going to find all of this fraud.
- 12:12Speaker 1: When it's majority Democrats doing it or helping these illegals
- 12:16Speaker 1: do it. Why would they want to work with the
- 12:18Speaker 1: federal government to bust them.
- 12:20Speaker 5: Well, it's going to take the right people of the
- 12:22Speaker 5: right places that can implement the laws that come down. Look,
- 12:27Speaker 5: you can have all the laws in the world, but
- 12:29Speaker 5: if you're not going to have a checks and balances
- 12:32Speaker 5: and actually making changes with people that are getting checks,
- 12:35Speaker 5: that shouldn't.
- 12:35Speaker 6: I mean, how many veterans are not getting.
- 12:37Speaker 5: Their checks as opposed to these trousers that are getting checks.
- 12:41Speaker 2: How about elderly.
- 12:42Speaker 5: How about I disable Why are they being left out?
- 12:46Speaker 5: And what this president is doing is cracking down on it,
- 12:49Speaker 5: and this just tip of the iceberg. Dan, I don't
- 12:52Speaker 5: think we know really the extent of it. And we've
- 12:54Speaker 5: got a country that's thirty nine trede in debt. We're
- 12:58Speaker 5: drowning in paper that we can't afford. And so this
- 13:03Speaker 5: is just beginning, and hopefully there'll be a impetus to
- 13:06Speaker 5: really crack down and again have consequences for those who
- 13:10Speaker 5: are breaking the law and then taking money out of the.
- 13:14Speaker 6: People that should be getting it that they're just not.
- 13:17Speaker 1: That's the thing too, when you start taking these millions,
- 13:19Speaker 1: you're hurting the people that actually need this money, whether
- 13:23Speaker 1: again it's the food stamps, the insurance, the Medicare, Medicaid, hospice,
- 13:26Speaker 1: the money won't be there for them when they have
- 13:29Speaker 1: a legitimate claim. I want to end on the frauds.
- 13:32Speaker 1: Are's latest comments. Of course, our Vice President Jade Vance,
- 13:35Speaker 1: appointed by President Trump to crack down on this fraud,
- 13:38Speaker 1: to actually take it seriously. Here's him recently on the crackdown.
- 13:42Speaker 4: You know what these fraudsters are doing.
- 13:44Speaker 1: They are taking advantage of American generosity to enrich themselves
- 13:49Speaker 1: and we need.
- 13:49Speaker 3: Somebody who's going to put them in jail and protect
- 13:52Speaker 3: your money.
- 13:52Speaker 4: And that's exactly what we're doing.
- 13:55Speaker 1: Well, there you have it, Ralph, I mean the Vice
- 13:57Speaker 1: President saying we are going to yet all of these
- 14:02Speaker 1: fraudsters again and where we started. This should be bipartisan, Ralph.
- 14:06Speaker 1: Why aren't Democrats in the House and the Senate agree
- 14:10Speaker 1: with your colleagues's ogels, Tubberville, the people writing these bills,
- 14:14Speaker 1: the people out busting Why won't Democrats agree?
- 14:18Speaker 2: I know why. I give you the final word.
- 14:20Speaker 6: The reason they won't sign on. They won't support it.
- 14:22Speaker 5: They hate this present so much, and Dan I would
- 14:25Speaker 5: say they hate America aside with the enemy. They've done
- 14:28Speaker 5: it time and time again. The Doves Commission pointed out
- 14:30Speaker 5: so much that were wrong, and we didn't get one
- 14:33Speaker 5: vote to cut the billions that were found under. What
- 14:38Speaker 5: Elon must did all that to say is we've got
- 14:41Speaker 5: to stop this now. The cancer has spread in every
- 14:44Speaker 5: city and state in this great country. And now celebrate
- 14:47Speaker 5: the two and fiftieth year. Now's the time to crack down.
- 14:50Speaker 2: And what JD.
- 14:51Speaker 5: Vance said, We're going to on all fifty States. We're
- 14:55Speaker 5: cracking down on fraud, waste abuse. We will start the
- 14:57Speaker 5: ball rolling to hold the people accountable.
- 15:00Speaker 6: And that's what it's all.
- 15:00Speaker 1: About, Amen, That's all us regular tax paying folks want.
- 15:04Speaker 1: Ralph retired of elites, criminals, some politicians, everybody else always
- 15:10Speaker 1: getting away with everything right in front of our eyes.
- 15:14Speaker 1: And we know, as law abiding citizens, it would never
- 15:16Speaker 1: happen if we did it.
- 15:18Speaker 2: Ralph Norman, thank you, appreciate you, sir, my pleasure. Thank you, Dan.
- 15:22Speaker 1: You have to take care alrighty coming up after the break,
- 15:24Speaker 1: A huge day for law and order in America. Speaking
- 15:28Speaker 1: to law and order, this as a Supreme Court earlier
- 15:30Speaker 1: today made a monumental ruling on.
- 15:33Speaker 2: Immigration and we've got the details.
- 15:35Speaker 1: Plus two more suspects have been busted in connection to
- 15:39Speaker 1: that foiled terror plot when they were going to try
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- 16:43Speaker 1: Thank you for staking with us. A historic day the
- 16:45Speaker 1: Supreme Court as the Justice deliver a double dose of
- 16:48Speaker 1: victory for how about law and order American sovereignty, following
- 16:54Speaker 1: our immigration laws that are already on the books. First,
- 16:56Speaker 1: the High Court slam the door on activists trying to
- 16:59Speaker 1: turn our legal sit system into a global complaint department.
- 17:03Speaker 1: In a decisive six to three you know the usual three,
- 17:06Speaker 1: the Justice blocked foreign nationals from using American courts to
- 17:10Speaker 1: sue over violations of international law. Justice Amy Cony Barrett
- 17:15Speaker 1: authored the majority opinion during a hard line in the sand,
- 17:18Speaker 1: reinforcing that our courts exist to uphold American laws, not
- 17:24Speaker 1: like we're the global police or global courts. The winning
- 17:27Speaker 1: Street continued with a second six to three victory over
- 17:31Speaker 1: border security. The court firmly backed executive authority, ruling that
- 17:35Speaker 1: federal officers have the power to revoke parole and initiate
- 17:39Speaker 1: deportation proceedings for Green card holders suspected of crimes at
- 17:44Speaker 1: the border. That's common sense, Justice Thomas delivering the majority opinion,
- 17:49Speaker 1: making it clear that entry is a privilege, not an
- 17:54Speaker 1: unrestricted free pass to do whatever the hell you want
- 17:56Speaker 1: in America. And the legal victories for border reforms are
- 17:59Speaker 1: echoing beyond the Supreme Court. Today, in a major win
- 18:03Speaker 1: for the White House, a federal appeals court just cleared
- 18:05Speaker 1: the way for the Trump administration to expand fast tracked
- 18:09Speaker 1: deportations nationwide. And I say, amen, is that what we
- 18:13Speaker 1: voted for the two to one decision by the DC
- 18:16Speaker 1: Circuit Court. Hence, immigration enforcement a powerful weapon. Now overturning
- 18:20Speaker 1: a lower court judge who had blocked the policy effective immediately,
- 18:25Speaker 1: Ice officers can bypass lengthy court hearings and quickly deport
- 18:30Speaker 1: the illegal criminal aliens that they find anywhere in our country,
- 18:34Speaker 1: even if they can't prove they've been living in the
- 18:37Speaker 1: US for at least two years. The court ruled the
- 18:40Speaker 1: expansion does not violate due process protections, vindicating the administration's
- 18:46Speaker 1: strategy to fast track.
- 18:47Speaker 2: Removals from the border to the interior.
- 18:50Speaker 1: Newly released nationwide encounter data from US Customs and Border
- 18:54Speaker 1: Protection shows that illegal alien crossings remain at historic lows,
- 19:00Speaker 1: the lowest our nations ever seen thanks to the Trump administration.
- 19:04Speaker 1: Total monthly apprehensions did see a slight seasonal climb at
- 19:07Speaker 1: the start of the year, edging past eleven thousand in
- 19:11Speaker 1: May total, though, Folks, the vast majority of those crossings
- 19:13Speaker 1: occurred along the southwest border, which accounted for ten thousand
- 19:16Speaker 1: of the apprehensions. There's no catch and release with Trump.
- 19:20Speaker 1: While federal agents note steady baseline of traffic at official
- 19:23Speaker 1: ports of entry, overall enforcement numbers are down over ninety percent,
- 19:29Speaker 1: and we're comparing that to the Biden regime. This as
- 19:32Speaker 1: enforcement shifts deeper into the interior, while border encounters are declining,
- 19:36Speaker 1: Ice as rapidly expanding their operations, stepping up the arrests,
- 19:40Speaker 1: increasing detention numbers, and trying to build facilities so we
- 19:44Speaker 1: can house them until we can deport them. With recent
- 19:48Speaker 1: court rulings clearing the way for faster removals, authorities are
- 19:51Speaker 1: quickly turning those decisions into action, now broadening immigration enforcement
- 19:55Speaker 1: far beyond the border. A new report from the Deportation
- 19:58Speaker 1: Data Project blows the list of just how dramatic the
- 20:02Speaker 1: interior shift truly is. According to this data, and this
- 20:05Speaker 1: is researchers at UCLA.
- 20:06Speaker 2: And UC Berkeley so liberal ones.
- 20:09Speaker 1: Interior deportations by ICE have surged five times within the
- 20:13Speaker 1: first year of this administration alone. This as street arrests
- 20:17Speaker 1: across our neighborhoods have exploded eleven times. Borders are Tom
- 20:21Speaker 1: Homan spoke with the reporters yesterday out in front of
- 20:25Speaker 1: the White House.
- 20:26Speaker 7: We have the most secure border in history in the nation.
- 20:29Speaker 7: There's no free ride anymore. So if it comes to
- 20:32Speaker 7: the border, you're not going to be released in the
- 20:33Speaker 7: United States. You need to be immediately moved and putting
- 20:36Speaker 7: into tention. And they had your case heard, but there's
- 20:39Speaker 7: no more catching release. Catching release sends a message.
- 20:41Speaker 6: To the whole world.
- 20:42Speaker 7: Enter our country lately, it's a kind and don't worry
- 20:45Speaker 7: about it. Be released in the United States and don't
- 20:47Speaker 7: show up your hand or a fifty percent of people
- 20:49Speaker 7: sketch your hands.
- 20:50Speaker 2: Don't show for your hand.
- 20:51Speaker 7: Now for the order of sense. Yet that's what caused
- 20:53Speaker 7: the crisis the last four years on by.
- 20:55Speaker 1: Administration exactly joining us now with reaction to these huge
- 21:00Speaker 1: wh Scotis wins and that Circuit Court win. He is
- 21:03Speaker 1: the national chairman of the Election Transparency Initiative and former
- 21:06Speaker 1: Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security.
- 21:08Speaker 2: Our friend Ken Kuchinelli back on real America.
- 21:11Speaker 1: Ken, Oh, I know there's some folks out there that
- 21:14Speaker 1: hate that phrase winning, but I love when we keep winning.
- 21:18Speaker 1: You know, two of the major things President Trump and
- 21:20Speaker 1: Republicans ran on was the economy, which I know a
- 21:24Speaker 1: ran pause that, but things are staying on track as
- 21:26Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, gas will go back down. And
- 21:29Speaker 1: illegal immigration, and I think we're doing great on that front.
- 21:33Speaker 2: How about you.
- 21:34Speaker 8: Well, certainly, this expedited removal win today was very big.
- 21:40Speaker 8: It was, frankly in numbers, far bigger than the Supreme
- 21:43Speaker 8: Court win today. But I will tell you this one
- 21:47Speaker 8: judge that they overturned. Here it is June of twenty
- 21:51Speaker 8: twenty six, and expedited removal can only be used the
- 21:55Speaker 8: first two years somebody is in the country. This is
- 21:58Speaker 8: used against godaways, and of course, as we know, under
- 22:01Speaker 8: Joe Biden, there were hundreds of thousands of godaways every year.
- 22:06Speaker 8: So this now is only usable against godaways from his
- 22:11Speaker 8: last six months because that one judge stalled the implementation.
- 22:16Speaker 8: And mind you, when you hear Democrats complain about this
- 22:19Speaker 8: expedited removal, Joe Biden voted for this, Nancy Pelosi voted
- 22:24Speaker 8: for this. Chuck Schumer voted for this back in nineteen
- 22:27Speaker 8: ninety six. This was not controversial when it was implemented.
- 22:31Speaker 8: It was not controversial for years until immigration became a
- 22:36Speaker 8: political hot potato.
- 22:37Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that interesting.
- 22:39Speaker 1: I mean, we've all seen the clips, right, We've played
- 22:41Speaker 1: Barack Obama, We've played Bill Clinton, We've played Nancy We've
- 22:44Speaker 1: played all the Dems for twenty years saying we're an
- 22:48Speaker 1: immigration or we're a nation of immigrants, but we're a
- 22:50Speaker 1: nation of laws.
- 22:51Speaker 2: But they stopped saying that when Trump came on the scene,
- 22:53Speaker 2: didn't they.
- 22:54Speaker 8: Ki You know, I actually think it started when we
- 22:58Speaker 8: were transitioning from Bush to a Obama. I mean, let's
- 23:00Speaker 8: face it, George Bush was not particularly tough on immigration.
- 23:05Speaker 2: Nope.
- 23:05Speaker 8: And I will tell you I was a mere state
- 23:08Speaker 8: senator back then. Of course I was in northern Virginia,
- 23:11Speaker 8: so I was on their doorstep, and I would criticize
- 23:13Speaker 8: their weak policies, and I would hear from the White
- 23:16Speaker 8: House as a state senator, and you know, talk about
- 23:20Speaker 8: being a little overly sensitive. And then you rolled into
- 23:24Speaker 8: Obama's era and things like DACA and DAPPA and by
- 23:28Speaker 8: the way, that UFC terrorist Illegal Immigrant Mexic DOCTI was
- 23:33Speaker 8: a DOCA, was a DOCA was vetted for DOCTA under
- 23:38Speaker 8: the Obama program. And so look, this has been a
- 23:41Speaker 8: disaster for a long time. Joe Biden brought it to
- 23:44Speaker 8: Olympic levels that even Barack Obama, you know, was shamed by.
- 23:49Speaker 1: Yeah, and he actually deported a few million people though
- 23:52Speaker 1: in his age ye day, like right, didn't it was
- 23:53Speaker 1: is it five million and eight years?
- 23:55Speaker 8: He actually three million in eight years. And frankly, I
- 23:59Speaker 8: believe that for a president, he holds the record for deportations.
- 24:04Speaker 2: That's the record. To hold your beer. Trump's got two
- 24:06Speaker 2: and a half more years. Can hold your beer.
- 24:08Speaker 1: I know, well, I want to see like ten million
- 24:12Speaker 1: under Trump. I want to see ten million, because we
- 24:14Speaker 1: know judge's fifteen million.
- 24:15Speaker 2: In real quick.
- 24:17Speaker 1: I want to fix a few other headlines, especially when
- 24:18Speaker 1: it comes to election stuff, because you're the man federal
- 24:21Speaker 1: judge blocking the use of a federal database to check citizenship.
- 24:27Speaker 1: The judge says it could wrongly purge voters. Gee, what
- 24:31Speaker 1: kind of judge is this? I'm sorry, if you're not
- 24:33Speaker 1: a citizen, you don't vote, right.
- 24:37Speaker 8: Yeah, this is like Chuck Schumer talking about the Save
- 24:39Speaker 8: Act purging twenty five million voters. Well wait a minute, Chuck,
- 24:43Speaker 8: are you saying they're twenty five million non citizens who
- 24:46Speaker 8: are on our voter rolls. This is why we need
- 24:49Speaker 8: the Save Act. It needs to be attached to FISO,
- 24:51Speaker 8: or it needs to be attached to this housing bill
- 24:53Speaker 8: that just came out of the Senate, and the House
- 24:55Speaker 8: is going to have to do it. The Senate isn't
- 24:57Speaker 8: going to do this by themselves, going to have to
- 24:59Speaker 8: for sit by House actions. So talk to your House
- 25:03Speaker 8: Republicans and insist that they don't pass these bills FISA
- 25:07Speaker 8: are housing without the Save Act attached. That's the only
- 25:10Speaker 8: way to get it through the Senate is to make
- 25:12Speaker 8: them vote on it with something they want.
- 25:14Speaker 1: Yes, please, can we get the Save America Act? Thirty
- 25:16Speaker 1: seconds left? The birthright citizenship decision coming from Scotus is
- 25:21Speaker 1: still looming out there.
- 25:22Speaker 2: It's almost summer.
- 25:23Speaker 1: What says Ken Kuchinelli with a few seconds left, you
- 25:26Speaker 1: think it's going to happen or not.
- 25:27Speaker 2: Let's have your prediction.
- 25:29Speaker 8: If I had to bet on it, I would bet
- 25:30Speaker 8: again simply because of how Gorsich dealt within an oral argument.
- 25:34Speaker 8: If you're getting heat from Gorsicic, you're probably not getting
- 25:37Speaker 8: to five votes. And I filed an amikas in this
- 25:40Speaker 8: case to support the president. So I really hope we
- 25:42Speaker 8: get it. It's critical to our sovereignty. And if the
- 25:45Speaker 8: Supreme Court rules the other way, Congress is either going
- 25:48Speaker 8: to have to pass legislation or we need an amendment
- 25:51Speaker 8: to fix this. This is a very big sovereignty deal.
- 25:54Speaker 1: It is they just come in and spit the kids
- 25:56Speaker 1: out and expect us to take care of everybody. We've
- 25:58Speaker 1: got a stout that I don't think that's what the
- 25:59Speaker 1: found Fathers wanted. Ken Kuchinelli, as always, thank you, brother,
- 26:03Speaker 1: appreciate you, good to be with you. Yep, straight ahead,
- 26:06Speaker 1: did you hear two more suspects arrested in connection to
- 26:09Speaker 1: that tea plot Ken just brought up that was supposed
- 26:11Speaker 1: to take place at the UFC two to fifty fight
- 26:14Speaker 1: in DC on the fourteenth.
- 26:15Speaker 2: We're gonna have the.
- 26:16Speaker 1: Very latest on the investigation when we return don't go away.
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- 26:59Speaker 2: Welcome back.
- 27:00Speaker 1: Authorities have arrested two more suspects in connection to that
- 27:03Speaker 1: foiled terror plot attack that was going to take place
- 27:06Speaker 1: two Sundays ago on the President's birthday on Flag Day
- 27:10Speaker 1: during that amazing UFC two fifty event hosted by our
- 27:14Speaker 1: President at the White House.
- 27:16Speaker 2: Can you believe it? I can.
- 27:18Speaker 1: This is what Trump derangement syndrome looks like the latest
- 27:22Speaker 1: arrest bring the total number of individuals facing federal charges
- 27:26Speaker 1: currently to just seven. But we think there's going to
- 27:29Speaker 1: be more. If you recall, they said there could be
- 27:32Speaker 1: up to twenty people or more involved in this whole
- 27:36Speaker 1: big plot. Authorities apprehended William Lee. Is this name right,
- 27:41Speaker 1: William Lee? Spartacus Faulkner. I mean with a name like that,
- 27:45Speaker 1: he was destined to be a idiot. This guy got
- 27:49Speaker 1: arrested in Washington State. Then twenty eight year old Jordan
- 27:52Speaker 1: Rinker of Missouri also busted. Both men charged with conspiracy
- 27:56Speaker 1: to commit murder. According to court documents, law enforcement disrupted
- 28:00Speaker 1: the plan just four days before the event.
- 28:04Speaker 2: On the South Lawn scheduled for the fourteenth.
- 28:06Speaker 1: Investigators say the group, driven by fringe conspiracy theories, aimed
- 28:11Speaker 1: to destabilize the government by flying explosive laden drones into
- 28:17Speaker 1: the venue and then as the crowd flee, they were
- 28:20Speaker 1: going to have snipers shoot what they called high profile targets.
- 28:25Speaker 1: In their ramblings online, many of them wanted to kill
- 28:28Speaker 1: some Jewish folks too. So now see you see where
- 28:31Speaker 1: the Israeli hate turns into Right here, where a bunch
- 28:36Speaker 1: of sickos online, Let's go kill Trump and Dana White
- 28:40Speaker 1: and some Jews at the White House on Sunday, June fourteenth.
- 28:44Speaker 1: Prosecutors alleged that Rickner distributed some of the cash and
- 28:49Speaker 1: agreed to produce drone parts while Faulkner communicated about tactics
- 28:54Speaker 1: and attaching the explosives to the drones. Everybody had their
- 28:57Speaker 1: own little niche on what they were going to do here.
- 29:00Speaker 1: Officials recovered high powered firearms, encrypted messages, and this detailed
- 29:06Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff they were going to meet in
- 29:07Speaker 1: Virginia the day before. In practice, they had escape routes
- 29:10Speaker 1: ready to go, like on the water, on land, maybe
- 29:13Speaker 1: even air, who the hell knows, but this was like
- 29:15Speaker 1: really thought out and planned. Meantime, newly released police body
- 29:19Speaker 1: camp out of Danville, Ohio.
- 29:22Speaker 2: Shows the moment officers confronted one.
- 29:24Speaker 1: Of the main guys behind this, nineteen year old Tyson Proper,
- 29:29Speaker 1: now a key suspect in the plot. Authorities were called
- 29:33Speaker 1: to the home on June tenth after Tyson's mom, thank
- 29:37Speaker 1: you Mom, raised alarms over his recent behavior and a
- 29:41Speaker 1: whole bunch of gun purchases.
- 29:43Speaker 10: It has always liked justice, He's always disliked people that
- 29:47Speaker 10: break their rules. He's always like, we're a church going family.
- 29:50Speaker 10: We've raised our kids in the church. We're always talking
- 29:52Speaker 10: right for law, and he truly believes that this is
- 29:56Speaker 10: a Christian thing to do, is to fight the evil,
- 29:59Speaker 10: and he use scriptures to back up how he's thinking,
- 30:02Speaker 10: how he's feeling. But I think he's twisting it and
- 30:05Speaker 10: distorting it with all the people he's talking to, and
- 30:09Speaker 10: he's thinking that this is the right way to go
- 30:10Speaker 10: about it, and I'm telling him this is not the right.
- 30:12Speaker 11: Way to go about it.
- 30:13Speaker 12: I'd like for you to come with us to Kasey
- 30:14Speaker 12: h and talk to of behavior health specialists. Maybe they
- 30:19Speaker 12: can help you strengthen some stuff out. It's a little
- 30:22Speaker 12: bit alarming about all the things that you've been purchasing
- 30:26Speaker 12: with your graduation money and then talking with this group
- 30:29Speaker 12: of people online. I'm concerned that you might have gotten
- 30:34Speaker 12: caught up with something not so great.
- 30:39Speaker 2: Did you hear that? Hear what that mom said. We're
- 30:42Speaker 2: a Christian family, my son's a Christian.
- 30:45Speaker 1: He's been quoting scripture and thinks what he's saying is
- 30:48Speaker 1: the right thing to do.
- 30:49Speaker 2: Gee. I wonder who'd give him that idea.
- 30:50Speaker 1: It wouldn't be the crazy Canvases and Carrie Prejean's and
- 30:54Speaker 1: Tuckers out there that are telling you all, we have
- 30:56Speaker 1: more in common with Islam and Muslims than we do
- 30:58Speaker 1: Israel and Jews and jew who's bad and we should
- 31:01Speaker 1: kill Jews and get rid of Israel and don't help
- 31:03Speaker 1: them and everything else.
- 31:04Speaker 2: You see what it's doing.
- 31:05Speaker 1: To people that are already a couple screws loose, a couple.
- 31:09Speaker 2: Sandwiches, shy of a full picnic. Think about this.
- 31:12Speaker 1: They're justifying wanting to kill people in their ramblings. They thought,
- 31:18Speaker 1: like many of these podcasters are saying, President Trump is
- 31:21Speaker 1: Bibby nit Yah who's puppet, and the Jews control America
- 31:24Speaker 1: in the world, So We're gonna go shoot.
- 31:25Speaker 2: Up a fight and kill a bunch of them. You
- 31:28Speaker 2: see what it's doing.
- 31:30Speaker 1: President Trump says six people busted another seventh sided for
- 31:35Speaker 1: allegedly damaging the Lincoln Memorial reflecting pool as well.
- 31:39Speaker 2: Again, this all goes to the Trump derangement syndrome.
- 31:41Speaker 1: Right, it's kill Trump or screw Trump over or try
- 31:45Speaker 1: to make Trump look bad because anything he does is
- 31:48Speaker 1: bad in their minds.
- 31:50Speaker 2: In a social media post.
- 31:51Speaker 1: The President claims that vandals used a box cutter to
- 31:54Speaker 1: create a huge gash in the pool's liner. The iconic
- 31:57Speaker 1: DC site has become now a political lash point following
- 32:00Speaker 1: the fourteen million dollar renovation project. Less than two weeks
- 32:05Speaker 1: after it reopened with a custom American flag blue bottom,
- 32:08Speaker 1: the paint is peeling and there are massive algae.
- 32:11Speaker 2: Blooms turning the water green.
- 32:14Speaker 1: National Guard troops and park police are now patrolling the
- 32:16Speaker 1: deck while officials are making the repairs.
- 32:19Speaker 13: Vandalism vandalism, Well, you know, we have one hundred and
- 32:23Speaker 13: we have a I think two hundred and ninety three
- 32:26Speaker 13: hundred foot slid right through it. Probably a box cutter
- 32:30Speaker 13: or a knife of some kind, or we had people
- 32:33Speaker 13: lifting up the basic some of the it's not a
- 32:37Speaker 13: lot of damage, but it's we'll probably have to let
- 32:39Speaker 13: the water out and refix it.
- 32:42Speaker 1: There we go the party of help the environment and
- 32:45Speaker 1: go green wasting water. I also heard reports that maybe
- 32:49Speaker 1: somebody poured hydro and peroxide in there. Joining us now
- 32:51Speaker 1: to talk about both of these investigations. Former FBI Joint
- 32:55Speaker 1: Task Force member and retired New Jersey Police detective Steve
- 32:58Speaker 1: Rogers back.
- 32:59Speaker 2: On the program Steve.
- 33:00Speaker 1: Let's begin with the most important and the biggest one,
- 33:03Speaker 1: the terror plot foiled, and then we'll get to the
- 33:05Speaker 1: idiots that are out like commending the Algae and supporting
- 33:09Speaker 1: the Lgae because they just want to make Trump look bad.
- 33:12Speaker 2: Seven scumbags so far.
- 33:14Speaker 1: The initial report said there was at least twenty or
- 33:17Speaker 1: twenty three if I recall chatting online on Discord and
- 33:20Speaker 1: these other websites talking about this plot. And now we
- 33:24Speaker 1: got two new guys busted. What else do you know
- 33:27Speaker 1: that I didn't talk about.
- 33:29Speaker 14: Well, you kind of hit the nail on the head
- 33:31Speaker 14: and made up some several points here, Dan, which I
- 33:34Speaker 14: think should be made even stronger across this country. Look,
- 33:37Speaker 14: these guys were scattered around the country, and I got
- 33:39Speaker 14: to tell you something. This one was foiled, but I'm
- 33:42Speaker 14: really thinking about the next one. These guys were well equipped.
- 33:45Speaker 14: It was well planned. I'm glad you said it. A
- 33:47Speaker 14: lot of people don't want to admit it. They think
- 33:49Speaker 14: there's a bunch of racked tag guys that just decided
- 33:52Speaker 14: to get together on the internet and cause some trouble.
- 33:54Speaker 14: Note they were there to cause a major, major catastrophic bloodbed. Yeah,
- 33:59Speaker 14: so they got the wapons, they got the money, they
- 34:01Speaker 14: got the planning. Again, what's next. I'm really worried about that.
- 34:06Speaker 14: We've got two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of our country
- 34:08Speaker 14: coming up, celebrating all over this nation, and we've got
- 34:12Speaker 14: these idiots really scattered around the country.
- 34:15Speaker 2: So what is next?
- 34:16Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what, I'm going to blame the
- 34:18Speaker 1: damned Democrats and ninety nine percent of the fake news
- 34:21Speaker 1: mainstream media who are out there painting a target on
- 34:24Speaker 1: President Trump.
- 34:25Speaker 2: And any of his supporters. Backs.
- 34:26Speaker 1: They've been doing this since twenty sixteen. It's been ten
- 34:29Speaker 1: years of this, Steve. It's getting people killed. And yet
- 34:32Speaker 1: the minute you think they're going to stop, like after
- 34:34Speaker 1: President Trump got shot, right for like what twenty three hours,
- 34:38Speaker 1: the media didn't act like they usually act. Democrats didn't
- 34:40Speaker 1: act like they usually act.
- 34:41Speaker 2: And they were right back to it.
- 34:43Speaker 1: And then somebody almost shoots him again, and then somebody
- 34:45Speaker 1: almost shoots him again, and now we a whole plot
- 34:47Speaker 1: that could have killed hundreds at this event. There were
- 34:50Speaker 1: a few thousand people inside the White House Sunday before last,
- 34:54Speaker 1: And yet the rhetoric doesn't stop.
- 34:57Speaker 14: It doesn't dan, and it's gone. It's crossed the line
- 34:59Speaker 14: from politics to pure evil. Look, they want to take
- 35:02Speaker 14: this country down.
- 35:04Speaker 4: Yes, you're right.
- 35:05Speaker 14: The President of the United States represents that flag you
- 35:07Speaker 14: see behind me, liberty, justice, freedom. He's fought very hard
- 35:11Speaker 14: for that, and their target is him. They want to
- 35:15Speaker 14: take our country down. We've got communists running for office
- 35:18Speaker 14: in some of the major cities as we speak across
- 35:20Speaker 14: this country discussed communist socialists and the Democrat Party of JFKFDR.
- 35:25Speaker 14: At least the traditional Democrats better wake up because they're
- 35:28Speaker 14: not going to last through this fight either, So they
- 35:30Speaker 14: better wake up and help us get this country back
- 35:32Speaker 14: where it belongs.
- 35:33Speaker 1: I think they're so scared of the radical left, and
- 35:35Speaker 1: they hate Trump so much that TDS is itching at them,
- 35:38Speaker 1: that they just let these marksist take over. You look
- 35:40Speaker 1: and see who's leading the polls in Washington, DC, right
- 35:43Speaker 1: to take over as the mayor there. They're saying she's
- 35:45Speaker 1: worse than Zo Ran Mam Danny anyway, real quick, the
- 35:49Speaker 1: alleged ring leader of this whole terror plot, they're telling
- 35:54Speaker 1: me happens to be an illegal criminal alien. Throw the
- 35:57Speaker 1: headline up from where Mexico and he was.
- 36:00Speaker 2: Look at it.
- 36:00Speaker 1: He's smiling when he got busted. This is his mugshot.
- 36:03Speaker 1: This guy was excited to kill Americans and he was
- 36:07Speaker 1: one of the main guys that put this together. And
- 36:09Speaker 1: as you said, people from across the nation were chatting
- 36:13Speaker 1: in most likely twenty to twenty three people. Only seven
- 36:17Speaker 1: busted so far. I'll give you the last word on
- 36:20Speaker 1: that one and the last one to one take on
- 36:21Speaker 1: the pool.
- 36:22Speaker 2: The forre I loson.
- 36:23Speaker 14: Well, here we go, another individual crossing the border. The
- 36:25Speaker 14: President was right again, they're not all innocent. These people
- 36:28Speaker 14: are terrorists, and I hope that the US government charges
- 36:31Speaker 14: them with terrorism and sends them away for a long time.
- 36:34Speaker 1: Well, we had a big Supreme Court ruling today, and
- 36:37Speaker 1: let's hope we keep getting those rulings. And Trump continues
- 36:40Speaker 1: to deport, deport, deport. It's like drill, baby, drill. Can
- 36:44Speaker 1: we deport on the pool? I saw reports hydront peroxide.
- 36:50Speaker 1: We've seen video people grabbing and yanking at it. I
- 36:52Speaker 1: don't think it's far stretched to say somebody damaged that
- 36:56Speaker 1: pool because Trump made a big deal about renovating it,
- 36:59Speaker 1: and now the media and the want to make it
- 37:00Speaker 1: look like he got a bad company. It's because he
- 37:03Speaker 1: didn't know what he was doing. They rushed the job.
- 37:05Speaker 1: Blah blah blah, blah blah. He hired a firm that's
- 37:08Speaker 1: been doing this stuff for years out of the Midwest,
- 37:10Speaker 1: what from Oklahoma?
- 37:11Speaker 2: I believe.
- 37:12Speaker 1: I highly doubt it's their quality of work. I think
- 37:15Speaker 1: this is sabotage. Final word to you, Steve.
- 37:18Speaker 14: Listen, no doubt in my mind about it. I'm in Washington,
- 37:21Speaker 14: d C. Two three times a month, and I got
- 37:23Speaker 14: to tell you, before President Trump took control of that
- 37:26Speaker 14: city and cleaned it up, this was going on with
- 37:29Speaker 14: our monuments and other memorials, and he finally had put
- 37:32Speaker 14: it to a stop. So here's their next target. You're right,
- 37:35Speaker 14: absolutely right. He made a big national event at it.
- 37:38Speaker 14: This something we could be proud of. And what did
- 37:40Speaker 14: they decide to do. Well, they decide to try to
- 37:43Speaker 14: make a mess of that. But will bounce back. He'll
- 37:45Speaker 14: bounce back. But again, I hope they're all captured and
- 37:47Speaker 14: they go to jail. By the way, the individuals that
- 37:50Speaker 14: went and touched the water and started taking the paint,
- 37:52Speaker 14: well I got news for them. They were wrong. That
- 37:55Speaker 14: was a crime scene. Then that was a crime scene.
- 37:57Speaker 14: Don't they have common sense you stay away from that.
- 38:00Speaker 1: Yeah, no, kidd Well again, like I said that, TDS,
- 38:04Speaker 1: it just itches at them.
- 38:05Speaker 2: They can't they can't get away. It's like a meth head, right,
- 38:07Speaker 2: they're just oh TDS. TDS.
- 38:10Speaker 1: Steve Rodgers, former FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force member, Thank you, sir, appreciate.
- 38:14Speaker 14: You always a pleasure.
- 38:16Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Take care Steve.
- 38:17Speaker 1: Up next, some new details in the search for Nancy Guthrie.
- 38:23Speaker 2: Remember that whole story.
- 38:24Speaker 1: Today's show hosts Savannah Guthries's mom, who went missing at
- 38:27Speaker 1: the end of January. It's been months and months, big
- 38:30Speaker 1: breaking news. We've got it for you.
- 38:32Speaker 2: We come back.
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- 39:14Speaker 1: Welcome back now an update foury folks, A devastating update
- 39:17Speaker 1: that is, to the investigation the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie.
- 39:20Speaker 1: You remember, the eighty four year old mother of Today
- 39:22Speaker 1: Show co anchor Savannah Guthrie. Investigators now believe that the
- 39:27Speaker 1: second ransom note sent to media outlets just days after
- 39:31Speaker 1: she vanished from her home back on what I think
- 39:34Speaker 1: it was January thirty first, and the letter came in
- 39:36Speaker 1: January second or third.
- 39:37Speaker 2: They say that one was legitimate.
- 39:39Speaker 1: Now according to law enforcement, the second message claimed and
- 39:42Speaker 1: they didn't tell us this, that Nancy had died shortly
- 39:46Speaker 1: after her abduction, though it indicated her death was not intentional,
- 39:50Speaker 1: but it offered no demands, apology or anything else. Earlier today,
- 39:54Speaker 1: Savannah made an emotional plea directly from the Today Show set.
- 40:00Speaker 2: Take a look.
- 40:01Speaker 15: I can't pretend I'm not here, and so since I am,
- 40:03Speaker 15: I want to just take the opportunity to ask people
- 40:07Speaker 15: to really to beg people to come forward. Somebody knows something.
- 40:11Speaker 15: And this is a new story today that is on
- 40:14Speaker 15: your radar. But this is the life that my sister lives,
- 40:16Speaker 15: that I live, that my brother lives, that are extended
- 40:19Speaker 15: families lit that our children live every day and we
- 40:23Speaker 15: are in agony.
- 40:24Speaker 2: Joining us now with reaction.
- 40:25Speaker 1: He was in Tucson for like weeks when this story
- 40:28Speaker 1: first broke and has been covering it ever since. Retire
- 40:30Speaker 1: Las Vegas Plice, Lieutenant founder of the nonprofit Wounded Blue
- 40:33Speaker 1: Randy Sutton, Randy, you knew about these notes. I remember
- 40:36Speaker 1: we talked about them. What do you make of this
- 40:38Speaker 1: new revelation. They believe that note to be true. So
- 40:41Speaker 1: what one guy, the one we saw on video with
- 40:43Speaker 1: the gloves and the backpack, is the one that kidnapped
- 40:46Speaker 1: her for what money? And then she died because she
- 40:48Speaker 1: never meds And I believe I saw on the note
- 40:51Speaker 1: that he said she's buried in nature.
- 40:52Speaker 2: And this is all we know. Now what else do
- 40:54Speaker 2: you know?
- 40:56Speaker 4: Well, now that there's been a new scrutiny of these
- 41:00Speaker 4: of these demands and these letters that are or these
- 41:03Speaker 4: emails that have come in, suddenly this is getting more attention,
- 41:08Speaker 4: and the belief from certain circles is that there may
- 41:12Speaker 4: has may have been some legitimate information here. This is
- 41:16Speaker 4: something that is new, that is but still at the
- 41:20Speaker 4: same time, remember that this information is coming to us
- 41:25Speaker 4: now so many weeks later that what what is what's
- 41:31Speaker 4: the opportunity here now to to bring this to closure?
- 41:37Speaker 4: And I think that's why Nancy Guthrie or excuse me,
- 41:40Speaker 4: you know, Samantha Guthrie came out with that very very
- 41:43Speaker 4: emotional appeal. Is there's no doubt in my mind, Dan
- 41:48Speaker 4: that this was that this was perpetrated by more than
- 41:51Speaker 4: one individual. There are people that know what took place here.
- 41:55Speaker 4: There may this may be a sign that that there
- 41:59Speaker 4: is a fracture in the relationship between those people that
- 42:05Speaker 4: that actually did this, that there was if they're looking
- 42:09Speaker 4: at this note as now uh being believable that that
- 42:13Speaker 4: this that that the death took place, not because they
- 42:18Speaker 4: chose it but you know it did it intentionally, but
- 42:21Speaker 4: because of the circumstances, which quite honestly, if you're going
- 42:25Speaker 4: to kidnap a woman of this age that from from
- 42:29Speaker 4: this set of circumstances, you can pretty well determine that
- 42:32Speaker 4: there's going to be a very negative outcome from her
- 42:34Speaker 4: physical health. So I'm not really I'm not really holding
- 42:38Speaker 4: out a lot of sympathy for these individuals and and
- 42:42Speaker 4: the fact that they're that this note is now receiving
- 42:46Speaker 4: this scrutiny. I'm wondering why this wasn't you know, why
- 42:52Speaker 4: brought out.
- 42:52Speaker 2: To be four and a half months since the note
- 42:54Speaker 2: was dropped four and a half.
- 42:55Speaker 4: Months, right, and if this was and if this was,
- 42:59Speaker 4: believe give it to the family. Has the opportunity to
- 43:04Speaker 4: actually pay the the individual. They had that opportunity, and
- 43:10Speaker 4: there was decisions made which meant to me that they
- 43:13Speaker 4: didn't believe that this was real at the time.
- 43:15Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder what pressure behind the scenes from which
- 43:18Speaker 1: law enforcement agencies is coming to bear for them to
- 43:21Speaker 1: now finally say, four and a half months later, we
- 43:23Speaker 1: believe that letter was the real letter? All right, Randy,
- 43:26Speaker 1: Still so many unanswered questions, and of course where is Nancy.
- 43:30Speaker 1: Thank you Randy for went in on this new breaking
- 43:32Speaker 1: news in this case. Appreciate you, sure thing? Dan yep
- 43:35Speaker 1: stick around. Coming up next, there is a fiery debate
- 43:38Speaker 1: happening on Capitol Hill this week over our benefits for
- 43:41Speaker 1: our veterans and their family members. More on what's causing
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- 44:29Speaker 16: Make certain we are creating legislation that is sound policy,
- 44:34Speaker 16: has wides spread support and the ability to gain the
- 44:38Speaker 16: necessary votes. And let me say that again, the ability
- 44:40Speaker 16: to gain the necessary votes to be passed and signed
- 44:44Speaker 16: into law, and most importantly, at the same time, will
- 44:47Speaker 16: meet the needs of our nation's veterans.
- 44:51Speaker 1: Yeah, how about we decided to do that? There, boys
- 44:53Speaker 1: and girls on the hill. Let's take care of our
- 44:56Speaker 1: men and women that have served us. How about that?
- 44:58Speaker 1: The House of Representatives is set to to vote late
- 45:00Speaker 1: this week on a sweeping but controversial veterans package that
- 45:04Speaker 1: is causing now a deep rift within i would say,
- 45:07Speaker 1: political parties and even the military community. So here's what
- 45:10Speaker 1: it's called. Maybe you heard of it, maybe you haven't,
- 45:12Speaker 1: The take care of Americans Veterans Act. It incorporates the
- 45:15Speaker 1: long awaited Major Richard Starr Act, finally allowing fifty four
- 45:20Speaker 1: thousand medically retired combat injured vets to receive both their
- 45:23Speaker 1: full military retirement pay and VA disability compensation without any offsets.
- 45:30Speaker 1: The problem it's paid for by cutting future benefits.
- 45:34Speaker 2: That's the issue.
- 45:35Speaker 1: To cover the eleven billion dollar price tag, the bill
- 45:38Speaker 1: drastically scales back disability ratings for sleep apnea, OH completely
- 45:43Speaker 1: eliminates tonightis as a standalone condition. A lot of guys
- 45:47Speaker 1: have that ringing in the ear come on now. While
- 45:49Speaker 1: some groups like the American Legion call it a necessary
- 45:52Speaker 1: compromise to end years and years of gridlock, there are
- 45:56Speaker 1: opponents who are furious The VFW. The disabled American Veterans
- 46:01Speaker 1: and Congressional Democrats are pushing back against the bill, arguing
- 46:04Speaker 1: that future disabled vets shouldn't be forced to bear the
- 46:07Speaker 1: financial cost of expanding benefits right now. For others, this
- 46:11Speaker 1: is a tough one, folks. The massive bill covers more
- 46:13Speaker 1: than just retirement pay. It also includes the Love Lives
- 46:17Speaker 1: On Act, which would allow surviving spouses to keep their
- 46:20Speaker 1: VA and Pentagon benefits if they remarry before the age
- 46:24Speaker 1: of fifty five. Critically, the package integrates the Veterans' Access Act.
- 46:29Speaker 1: That's a major legislative push aimed at drastically upgrading mental
- 46:33Speaker 1: health services that we need to do, slashing patient wait
- 46:36Speaker 1: times that too, and expand access to private community care. Yeah,
- 46:41Speaker 1: give them the choice. The remaining provisions aim to strength
- 46:45Speaker 1: and support for caregivers and veterans living with als and
- 46:48Speaker 1: spinal cord injuries, while overhauling via accountability and expanding housing opportunities.
- 46:54Speaker 1: As the House prepares to vote, I hear on Friday,
- 46:57Speaker 1: the central question on the hill is simple. Is expanding
- 46:59Speaker 1: care for current veterans worth cutting benefits for the next generation?
- 47:03Speaker 1: What a debate. Let's see what our next guest says,
- 47:06Speaker 1: I got my opinion, joining us now to wag in
- 47:09Speaker 1: on the debate. He's the former chief of staff for
- 47:11Speaker 1: Secretary of War Pete heggsaff a senior advisor at Veteran Action,
- 47:15Speaker 1: and a former Trump Veteran's Affairs advisor. Darren Selnik on
- 47:19Speaker 1: the program for the first time. All right, So, Darren,
- 47:21Speaker 1: I got a simple one. We can spend billions on
- 47:24Speaker 1: all other kinds of crap that we don't need to
- 47:27Speaker 1: be spending money on, So why do we have to
- 47:30Speaker 1: cut for future vets. How about we just get this
- 47:32Speaker 1: bill signed, expand the benefits at our veterans and their
- 47:36Speaker 1: spouse's need, and then don't kick the.
- 47:38Speaker 2: Can down the road. Set some money aside.
- 47:40Speaker 1: In these big, huge ass military budgets for the VA
- 47:43Speaker 1: and for these benefits. Has anybody brought that up on
- 47:46Speaker 1: the hill, for.
- 47:48Speaker 17: Sure, the opponents have. But it's a fake narrative. It's
- 47:50Speaker 17: a fake news, it's a fake choice. So we're not
- 47:53Speaker 17: actually cutting anything new. The VA has been always those
- 47:57Speaker 17: rule changes always gets updated inform me they're making a
- 48:00Speaker 17: technical correction to tonight this and sleep APNA.
- 48:03Speaker 11: And it was going to happen.
- 48:04Speaker 17: So all that Republicans and the sponsors this bill did
- 48:08Speaker 17: would say, hey, it's already going to happen in the
- 48:10Speaker 17: VA list, just go ahead and use this as to
- 48:12Speaker 17: pay for It's like if you had leave and you said, hey,
- 48:16Speaker 17: you guys, use it to lose leave, and you said, hey,
- 48:18Speaker 17: I'm not going to go ahead and use it.
- 48:20Speaker 11: So it was already to get happened.
- 48:22Speaker 2: The v I already.
- 48:22Speaker 11: Announced it, the v already testified to it.
- 48:24Speaker 17: So it's a fake talking point that those against this
- 48:28Speaker 17: bill are using. We're not actually cutting any veterans pay.
- 48:32Speaker 17: This is a technical correction on sleep apnia. Veterans were
- 48:37Speaker 17: able to get sleep aftera tonight this in the future,
- 48:39Speaker 17: No current veterans is are grandfathered in.
- 48:42Speaker 11: But there was some.
- 48:43Speaker 17: Abuses and some misuse and some medical updates on those
- 48:47Speaker 17: two things, and they're just being updated. So we can
- 48:49Speaker 17: either take what they call in the pay for and
- 48:51Speaker 17: pay for it or not. But it's going to happen anyway,
- 48:55Speaker 17: so why not go ahead and use what's already going
- 48:57Speaker 17: to happen. So nothing new is going to happen, and
- 49:00Speaker 17: it's just a false argument for those who don't understand.
- 49:04Speaker 11: An appealing false argument, but a false argument.
- 49:06Speaker 1: Okay, let me run through some other bills here. My
- 49:08Speaker 1: team pulled up and I want you to fill us
- 49:10Speaker 1: in on these if they're part of this bigger veterans bill.
- 49:13Speaker 2: So I'm seeing that.
- 49:14Speaker 1: Back in May, thanks to Republicans, over a half a
- 49:18Speaker 1: dozen veteran friendly bills actually got passed.
- 49:22Speaker 2: You can fill us in on some of those. Then.
- 49:24Speaker 1: Also, the House advanced a bill to expand benefits for
- 49:27Speaker 1: disabled vets and Gold Star families. The families that are
- 49:30Speaker 1: left behind after we lose somebody like the thirteen we
- 49:33Speaker 1: just lost in a Ran. It helps those gold Star families.
- 49:36Speaker 1: And then there is a current bill supporting those grieving
- 49:39Speaker 1: military families and that reached a new milestone in Congress.
- 49:42Speaker 1: Are the bills I'm bringing up here that my team found.
- 49:45Speaker 1: Are these part of that bigger Veterans package we're talking
- 49:47Speaker 1: about or are these separate ones?
- 49:50Speaker 17: Well, there's a lot of this is this package has
- 49:52Speaker 17: sixty bills in it, the two most important ones, and
- 49:57Speaker 17: you can go through the lists and a lot of
- 49:58Speaker 17: those bills are in. There is a Veterans' Access Act
- 50:01Speaker 17: and the Richard Starr Act and Richard starak Will been
- 50:04Speaker 17: trying to pass for years, but the way it had
- 50:07Speaker 17: been ballooning in terms of cost, it was you couldn't
- 50:10Speaker 17: have to do a pay for for it. But so
- 50:13Speaker 17: this takes care of the Richard Star Act and takes
- 50:15Speaker 17: care of the Veterans Access Act. So Richard Star Act
- 50:17Speaker 17: Major Richard Star Act takes care of it. Injustice stopping
- 50:20Speaker 17: combat veterans from being able to get their disability and
- 50:23Speaker 17: their military time and if they have less than twenty years,
- 50:26Speaker 17: which should be separate things, so that justice has taken
- 50:29Speaker 17: care of.
- 50:29Speaker 11: The Veterans Access Act.
- 50:30Speaker 17: The Biden administration for four years undermined the Mission Act
- 50:34Speaker 17: and was stopping veterans from getting timely care in the community.
- 50:37Speaker 17: This fixes this as well, codifying the access centers into
- 50:41Speaker 17: law and making sure there are no games played by
- 50:43Speaker 17: the career staff, so veterans will get timely care, and
- 50:46Speaker 17: most importantly, they will get timely mental health care, which
- 50:48Speaker 17: has been a big problem. So the careers under the
- 50:52Speaker 17: Biden administration have been making veterans wait months for years.
- 50:56Speaker 17: I even had a veteran who was homeless and needed
- 50:58Speaker 17: mental health told hey, we would just put you in
- 51:00Speaker 17: a homeless shelter and give you an uber while we
- 51:02Speaker 17: wait for an opening, rather than putting them in a
- 51:04Speaker 17: community ship provider. So it ends the game as the
- 51:06Speaker 17: career of bureaucrats have been doing. It fixes all the
- 51:09Speaker 17: stuff to Biden administration broke, and it makes it permanent.
- 51:13Speaker 17: So millions of veterans are going to get timely access
- 51:15Speaker 17: to care, no games, timely access to mental health.
- 51:18Speaker 11: So it's critical. It's very critical this bill passage.
- 51:21Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know why this becomes a partisan argument.
- 51:25Speaker 2: Whatsoever.
- 51:26Speaker 1: It should literally be a bipartisan thing to help take
- 51:31Speaker 1: care of our veterans and their family members. You can't
- 51:33Speaker 1: defend the Republic without the military, and I'm sick and
- 51:37Speaker 1: tired of me having to cover these damn stories where
- 51:38Speaker 1: we're not taking care of our veterans.
- 51:41Speaker 2: Darren.
- 51:41Speaker 1: I know they're going to vote on Friday less something changes,
- 51:44Speaker 1: so we may see you again on the program Friday
- 51:46Speaker 1: after that vote.
- 51:46Speaker 2: Thank you, sir.
- 51:48Speaker 11: I appreciate it.
- 51:48Speaker 2: Thank you. Yep. Let's hope they get their act together
- 51:51Speaker 2: on the hill. Do what's right.
- 51:53Speaker 1: You got the money, pull it from some other pet
- 51:55Speaker 1: project or bs that we waste, and pay our veterans
- 51:59Speaker 1: and their family members what they deserve. And that's going
- 52:02Speaker 1: to do it for another edition of Real America. Thanks
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