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- 0:00Speaker 1: And now I want to turn to the humanitarian crisis
- 0:02Speaker 1: in Gaza, where chaos continues to swirl around newly opened
- 0:05Speaker 1: distribution centers following months of an Israeli blockade. This new
- 0:10Speaker 1: video highlights the desperation for these Palestinians clamoring for basic
- 0:16Speaker 1: food and supplies at this World Food Program warehouse, the
- 0:20Speaker 1: UN saying it was broken into by quote hordes of
- 0:23Speaker 1: hungry people before the blockade. Of course, others were able
- 0:27Speaker 1: to get in and see this damage in the desperation
- 0:30Speaker 1: in first hand. Doctor Clayton Dalton among them. He's an
- 0:33Speaker 1: emergency physician. He traveled into Gaza as part of the
- 0:37Speaker 1: UN's medical aid team. His experiences were documented in a
- 0:41Speaker 1: video diary and calling for The New Yorker entitled Hospitals
- 0:45Speaker 1: in Ruin and doctor Clayton Dalton is joining us now.
- 0:48Speaker 1: Thank you so much for taking the time, Doctor Dalton.
- 0:51Speaker 1: You describe the devastation you saw in Gaza like nothing
- 0:56Speaker 1: you've ever seen before, given your background as an emergency physician,
- 1:00Speaker 1: and walk us through what that means for you.
- 1:04Speaker 2: It's great to agree with you, and I thank you.
- 1:07Speaker 2: It's hard to describe, and I mean every aspect of
- 1:13Speaker 2: the healthcare delivery system was touched by destruction in some way.
- 1:16Speaker 2: It wasn't the question of whether or not components had
- 1:20Speaker 2: been damaged or facilities had been damaged. It was just
- 1:23Speaker 2: a matter of degree. Some of them were functional in
- 1:27Speaker 2: the midst of the rubbles, some of them had been
- 1:29Speaker 2: completely destroyed, absolutely beyond repair. Supplies were limited. Gods was
- 1:37Speaker 2: in short supply, Antibiotics were in short supply. Everything that
- 1:40Speaker 2: you would need to take care of patients in this
- 1:43Speaker 2: environment towards in short supply. And this was during the ceasefires,
- 1:46Speaker 2: this was when medical aid was actually coming in, and
- 1:49Speaker 2: still it wasn't enough. So I've been in touch with
- 1:51Speaker 2: people that I worked alongside who are Palatain healthcare workers
- 1:54Speaker 2: who are still there, and they say that it's just
- 1:56Speaker 2: so much worse, which is hard for me to imagine.
- 1:58Speaker 2: I mean, this was already beyond anything that I'd ever
- 2:01Speaker 2: ever seen before. The circumstances they're working in are just
- 2:05Speaker 2: so difficult.
- 2:07Speaker 1: What brought you to Goza? What inspired you to go there?
- 2:12Speaker 2: A sense of being able to make some contribution, to
- 2:17Speaker 2: be able to support them medically, to be able to
- 2:21Speaker 2: tell their story. That was actually the thing that people
- 2:24Speaker 2: asked me to do. When I was there, the healthcare
- 2:27Speaker 2: workers I worked alongside, they were so glad to have
- 2:29Speaker 2: us there just to help medically. But so many people,
- 2:33Speaker 2: dozens of people, said, please just tell the world about
- 2:37Speaker 2: what is happening here. Tell them what you see, tell
- 2:39Speaker 2: them what's happening here. And that's what I've tried to do.
- 2:45Speaker 1: In your New Yorker video diary, there was a doctor
- 2:48Speaker 1: who was giving you an inside tour of the damage ICU,
- 2:52Speaker 1: who points out medical equipment that had appeared to have
- 2:55Speaker 1: been systematically disabled with bullet holes. I want to play
- 2:58Speaker 1: a portion of that.
- 3:02Speaker 3: He took me up into the ICU and showed me
- 3:05Speaker 3: a number of different pieces of medical equipment, and all
- 3:10Speaker 3: of them seemed to have a.
- 3:14Speaker 4: Bullet hole in the screen. He was like, I don't understand,
- 3:20Speaker 4: and I get that. I'm also was struggling to understand.
- 3:25Speaker 4: This didn't seem like collateral damage to me. You know,
- 3:27Speaker 4: these were specific pieces of medical equipment that seemed to
- 3:33Speaker 4: have been systematically disabled.
- 3:38Speaker 1: The IDF denies that they specifically targeted medical equipment, But
- 3:43Speaker 1: what was your takeaway from this?
- 3:47Speaker 2: This is horrible. I mean, I wasn't there when these
- 3:51Speaker 2: machines were destroyed. I don't know exactly what happened. I
- 3:55Speaker 2: can say that the implication that was shared with me
- 4:00Speaker 2: by doctor Moronswulton, who you can see in the video,
- 4:02Speaker 2: who's the director of the hospital, was that he discovered
- 4:06Speaker 2: he discovered this damage after soldiers had been active in
- 4:10Speaker 2: hospital facility, and the Idea did deny that they destroy
- 4:15Speaker 2: medical equipment in this way, but it was extremely disturbing.
- 4:18Speaker 2: It's hard for me to understand any sort of justification
- 4:21Speaker 2: for this kind of targeted destruction.
- 4:24Speaker 1: So much destruction and chaos that I know you witness
- 4:27Speaker 1: firsthand that we've seen in the images, but you also
- 4:30Speaker 1: describe witnessing moments of normalcy, seeing a family congregate over tea,
- 4:35Speaker 1: children laughing and playing and even flying kites. These have
- 4:40Speaker 1: to be incredibly dark times for them. And yet what resilience,
- 4:45Speaker 1: what perseverance, What did you learn about the spirit of
- 4:48Speaker 1: the people there? What do our viewers need to know?
- 4:52Speaker 2: It was extremely humbling. I saw this in the healthcare
- 4:56Speaker 2: workers that I worked alongside and the civilians who were
- 4:59Speaker 2: still trying to make the life in this place. They
- 5:02Speaker 2: were kind, they were welcoming, they were generous. They would
- 5:06Speaker 2: always be sure that we ate first, which made me
- 5:09Speaker 2: extremely uncomfortable, but there was no negotiating that. And there's
- 5:14Speaker 2: there's so many children. Nearly half the population of Gaza,
- 5:17Speaker 2: which is about two million people, is children, and they're
- 5:20Speaker 2: just finding a way to live as children in the rubble.
- 5:25Speaker 2: They're finding ways to play and to laugh. It's what
- 5:28Speaker 2: children do. I think it's it was so important to
- 5:32Speaker 2: me to remember that. You know, we're exposed to these
- 5:34Speaker 2: scenes of destruction of famine, and it's so important that
- 5:38Speaker 2: we stay aware and conscious of what's happening there. But
- 5:41Speaker 2: we also have to remember that these are people just
- 5:43Speaker 2: like us and they're trying to live their lives here.
- 5:45Speaker 2: I think we have to remember the humanity of the
- 5:48Speaker 2: people who were here.
- 5:50Speaker 1: Doctor Clayton Dalton, thank you so much for sharing what
- 5:53Speaker 1: you witnessed, sharing your reporting and first hand accounts of
- 5:57Speaker 1: what you saw. It's so important and we really value
- 6:01Speaker 1: your time today. Thank you, Thank you.
- 6:04Speaker 2: An good to be with you.