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Dan Carroll in for Brian Thomas · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 3: All right back on fifty five KRC, The Talk Station,
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Speaker 3: Wednesday morning, July twenty second. I'm about the big rain
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Speaker 3: we had yesterday, Joe, did you get any of that?
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Speaker 1: Oh?
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Speaker 3: His basement? Oh man, I'm sorry, man, your basement had
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Speaker 3: a lot of lot a lot of not okay, well
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Speaker 3: a little bit still stinks, But yeah, I was. I
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Speaker 3: was standing in front of the computer getting ready for
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Speaker 3: the show, and you here come the thunderstorm. Went out
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Speaker 3: to the front yard to make sure my vivak Ramaswami
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Speaker 3: sign wasn't gonna blow away, and standing in there, standing
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Speaker 3: there in the garage, and the storm was coming through,
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Speaker 3: and the lightning was just amazing. And this was this
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Speaker 3: was probably five or ten minutes before the tornado was
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Speaker 3: reported in Claremont County, a little bit east of where
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Speaker 3: I live. But I mean it was it was. The
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Speaker 3: lightning was there was one one lightning strike that looked
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Speaker 3: like it was right behind my neighbor's house, right across
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Speaker 3: the street, and Joe. I normally when we have thunderstorms
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Speaker 3: and lightning and stuff, I normally don't jump. I jumped.
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Speaker 3: I jumped. I'm glad, I'm glad no one was around
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Speaker 3: to see it. But I man that lightning strike. I jumped.
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Speaker 3: But it didn't last I don't know what twenty five
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Speaker 3: thirty minutes, and then it was over. And now we
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Speaker 3: have some really nice weather ahead today, so that that
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Speaker 3: is a good thing, A big deal. Yesterday the convention
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Speaker 3: hotel breaks ground Marriott twenty one story hotel. Af Tap
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Speaker 3: Purval was there, So Joe, when af tap Purval actually
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Speaker 3: shows up for something that's a big deal, isn't it? Apparently?
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Speaker 3: And you had I mean, Alicia Reese was there, the
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Speaker 3: city manager was there. I saw pictures of a bunch
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Speaker 3: of members of council there at three c DC. Big big,
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is what we call in the news business.
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Speaker 3: This is sexy, right when you're in politics and you
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Speaker 3: got a big hotel groundbreaking. They were supposed to be outside,
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Speaker 3: but you know, there might have been bad weather, so
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Speaker 3: they went inside the convention center and set it up
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Speaker 3: in there. Probably a little hasty, but they were able
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Speaker 3: to pull it off. Very nice that's a big sexy thing,
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Speaker 3: that is. Look, they love the politicians love to come
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Speaker 3: out for the big ribbon cuttings, the groundbreakings. Look what
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Speaker 3: we did, Look what we do. We have a brand new,
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Speaker 3: kind of big new hotel going up. It's going to
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Speaker 3: be great. You know what's not sexy. What's not sexy
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Speaker 3: is talking about sewers, talking about floodgates, talking about you know,
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Speaker 3: streets clearing the snow, that kind of stuff. And look,
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Speaker 3: I criticize our local media and the national media a lot.
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Speaker 3: I also give credit when credit is due. And yesterday afternoon,
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Speaker 3: after the heavy rain came through, I'm getting ready for
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Speaker 3: the show today, and it was about five point fifteen,
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Speaker 3: and I thought, well, let me pop onto the Inquirer's
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Speaker 3: site and see what they've got. And lo and behold
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Speaker 3: a piece by Dan Horn, Cincinnati Enquirer. Here's the headline,
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Speaker 3: Cincinnati didn't follow floodgate advice. Flood I'm sorry, Cincinnati didn't
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Speaker 3: follow flood upgrade advice. Six years ago. Six years ago,
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Speaker 3: an engineering firm recommended that Cincinnati replace the bridge over
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Speaker 3: Duck Creek and Oakley to reduce the risk of flooding,
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Speaker 3: eliminate the need for a floodgate and lower insurance costs
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Speaker 3: for property owners, but the city did not build that bridge,
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Speaker 3: leaving the existing structure in floodgates as the only defense
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Speaker 3: for surrounding homes and businesses when torrential rains hit the
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Speaker 3: community July seventeenth. While it's impossible to know how much
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Speaker 3: protection a new bridge might have provided from the record
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Speaker 3: breaking rainfall, the twenty twenty engineering report said the project
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Speaker 3: would significantly reduce the risk of serious flooding. The report,
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Speaker 3: produced by the city or for the city by the
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Speaker 3: Cliners Group, a national firm with offices in Cincinnati, concluded
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Speaker 3: that existing medicine that the existing Madison Road bridge over
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Speaker 3: the creek is part of the community's flooding problem Because
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Speaker 3: its concrete foundation, which was built almost one hundred years ago,
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Speaker 3: stands on both sides of the creek bed, The water
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Speaker 3: flowing through the creek is forced into a narrow passage,
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Speaker 3: making it more likely to flood when the water level rises.
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Speaker 3: The existing bridge is a severe restriction to flood flows
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Speaker 3: in Duck Creek. The report states the waterway opening is
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Speaker 3: simply far too small for this stream. The report said
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Speaker 3: a new bridge would stand higher and its support columns
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Speaker 3: would be farther apart, creating a wider passage through which
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Speaker 3: water in the creek could flow, reducing the likelihood that
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Speaker 3: the bridge and the road would be overrun by floodwater.
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Speaker 3: Along with construction of a new upstream levee, the report
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Speaker 3: predicted the new bridge would prevent flooding on Madison Road
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Speaker 3: even during a five hundred year flood or a flood
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Speaker 3: that is likely to occur once every five hundred years
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Speaker 3: or so. Is that what we had last week? I
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Speaker 3: don't know. The current bridge and floodgate, which did not
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Speaker 3: close during the heavy rain on July seventeenth, did not
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Speaker 3: offer that level of flood control. As a result, flood
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Speaker 3: insurance requirements for properties upstream will be positively impacted. The
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Speaker 3: report states. Once complete, the new bridge would represent a
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Speaker 3: maintenance free solution for the flooding issues at Madison Road.
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Speaker 3: Maintenance no longer would be an issue because the new
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Speaker 3: bridge would eliminate the need for the floodgates and for
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Speaker 3: the railroad style crossing gates that blocked the roadway when
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Speaker 3: flood waters rise. City spokeswoman Moli Laire said she did
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Speaker 3: not have information about the reports and could not immediately
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Speaker 3: respond to questions about it. According to the report, neither
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Speaker 3: the floodgate nor the crossing gates have worked precisely as
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Speaker 3: designed since they were installed in two thousand and eight
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Speaker 3: by the US Army Corps of Engineers. The city took
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Speaker 3: over operation of the gates in twenty twelve. Since its installation,
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Speaker 3: the City of Cincinnati Stormwater Management Utility has experienced problems
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Speaker 3: with the operation of the floodgate and traffic control. Railroad
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Speaker 3: Arms reports said it did not provide details about problems
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Speaker 3: with the floodgate, but the engineers described several problems with
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Speaker 3: the crossing gates, which they said lowered unnecessarily at times
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Speaker 3: and suffered from mechanical malfunctions. Both the floodgate and the
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Speaker 3: crossing gates should activate when sensors indicate water in the
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Speaker 3: creek reaches certain levels. City officials have said they're investigating
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Speaker 3: why the floodgate did not close July seventeenth, when six
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Speaker 3: inches of rain fell in Oakley and up to four
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Speaker 3: inches of rainfall in Hyde Park, Fairfax Lookout in other
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Speaker 3: nearby neighborhoods, and of course there was of course loss
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Speaker 3: of life there as well. That's not included in the
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Speaker 3: Inquirer report the downpour was so intense city officials, first responders,
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Speaker 3: and civil engineers has said it probably would have overwhelmed
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Speaker 3: any flood mitigation system, regardless of whether the floodgate closed.
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Speaker 3: Some have said the floodgate could have offered at least
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Speaker 3: some protection to homeowners and businesses in the immediate vicinity.
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Speaker 3: The engineering report suggests a new bridge would help with
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Speaker 3: routine flooding as well as more intense events. The reports
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Speaker 3: did not estimate a cost for the bridge project, but
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Speaker 3: acknowledged the work would be would not be inexpensive or
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Speaker 3: without difficulties. It's not clear how much consideration city officials
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Speaker 3: gave the engineering report, which was submitted to the Stormwater
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Speaker 3: Management Utility. City procurement records from April indicate the city
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Speaker 3: has explored replacing the crossing gates at Madison Road Bridge
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Speaker 3: and has sought bids to do the work. The engineering
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Speaker 3: report listed the crossing gate replacement as a possibility, but
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Speaker 3: did not recommend that option. The report said replacing the
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Speaker 3: crossing gate would cost about sixty thousand dollars. That work,
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Speaker 3: if completed, would address traffic control across the bridge, but
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Speaker 3: it would not replace or repair the bridge or floodgate.
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Speaker 3: Patricia Gallagher Newberry contributed to this report. So I've got
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Speaker 3: some more thoughts on this, and would this had this
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Speaker 3: report been taken seriously, had this report been acted upon,
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Speaker 3: would it have prevented what we witnessed last week? I
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Speaker 3: don't know. The report clearly states that I don't know,
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Speaker 3: but it is fairly certain that whoever was at city Council,
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Speaker 3: whoever was its City Hall, whoever was running the entity
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Speaker 3: to which this report was sent, really didn't take action
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Speaker 3: on this at all. And I've got some thoughts on
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Speaker 3: that coming up, but we got to get to a
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Speaker 3: break and check the forecast and all that, so we
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Speaker 3: will do that straight ahead on fifty five krc DE
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Speaker 3: talk stations. You heard everything fifty five KRC Detalk station.
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Speaker 3: Dan Carroll for Briant Thomas talking about the report in
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Speaker 3: the Inquire that shows an engineering study was done six
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Speaker 3: years ago that recommended replacing the bridge and eliminating the
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Speaker 3: floodgate over Duck Creek and Oakley. The report said making
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Speaker 3: these changes would significantly reduce the risk of flooding in
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Speaker 3: the area. And you know, the question is have prevented
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Speaker 3: what we saw last week when that heavy rain came down.
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Speaker 3: I guess there was some flooding yesterday. The intensity of
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Speaker 3: the storm was a lot shorter yesterday when that came through,
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Speaker 3: and I guess I saw some video of some relatively
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Speaker 3: minor flooding compared to what we had last week. But
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Speaker 3: to my way of thinking, and I give great credit
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Speaker 3: to the inquirer for doing this reporting. To my way
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Speaker 3: of thinking, this goes right to the heart of the
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Speaker 3: matter that we often talk about with city Council. I'm
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Speaker 3: going to go back on my own experience here and
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Speaker 3: back in the nineties when I was with Fox nineteen
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Speaker 3: for a time. While I was a street reporter at
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Speaker 3: Fox nineteen, my beat was City Hall and I was
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Speaker 3: at City Hall almost every single day. This is back
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Speaker 3: in the days when Charlie Winburn was a council member. Joe,
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Speaker 3: you remember Charlie Winburn, don't you? How much fun do
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Speaker 3: we have with that guy? Charlie Winburn? Phil Heimlich was there.
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Speaker 3: Talked to phil Heimlick almost every single day. Yeah, it
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Speaker 3: was toy. I guess towards the end of John Merlesina's career,
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Speaker 3: people like that were around. Tyrone Yates was there, and
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Speaker 3: so I was at City Hall on a regular basis talking.
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Speaker 3: I knew a lot of the staff members, you know,
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Speaker 3: I'd I'd pop in and out of the different offices
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Speaker 3: there have just you know, casual, off the record conversations
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Speaker 3: with city council members. I remember one year there was
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Speaker 3: there was a city council election and Carla Stanley was
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Speaker 3: our news director at the time. Joe, you remember Carlo
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Speaker 3: Stanley when she used to be a reporter here in Cincinnati. Well,
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Speaker 3: she was. She was our news director and she was
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Speaker 3: a longtime reporter in Cincinnati, television news reporter. And we
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Speaker 3: had a little wager going around the newsroom who, you know,
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Speaker 3: which nine people would wind up being elected to council.
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Speaker 3: And I was so in tune, I was so tuned
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Speaker 3: in to what was going on at City Hall. I
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Speaker 3: predicted correctly and even in the correct order the number
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Speaker 3: of votes. You know, who would get the most votes.
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Speaker 3: I've won through nine and so I remember one day
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Speaker 3: being at City Hall and I was in one of
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Speaker 3: the rooms that's adjacent to the chamber there where city
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Speaker 3: Council meets, and I was back there talking with some
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Speaker 3: of the staff members and some of the people that
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Speaker 3: worked for the city manager. And you know, we're hanging out,
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Speaker 3: we're getting ready for the council meeting to start, and
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Speaker 3: there was a shelf that just had all these different
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Speaker 3: stacks papers and stuff on it, and I wandered over
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Speaker 3: there and I started looking at these things. And I'm
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Speaker 3: looking at this and here's a report about you know whatever.
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Speaker 3: It might have been something like this, like an engineering
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Speaker 3: report about X. You know, it could have been you know,
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Speaker 3: the Mill Creek. Here's another report about the Western Hills via.
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Speaker 3: Here's another report about you know, MSD something like that.
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Speaker 3: All these different reports. And this was back in the nineties,
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Speaker 3: so a lot of these, and I think there was
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Speaker 3: there was one that was from like the nineteen seventies,
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Speaker 3: a bunch of stuff from the eighties. And I'm thinking
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Speaker 3: to myself, is this what happens? And I remember asking
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Speaker 3: one of the staff members there, I said, is this
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Speaker 3: what happens when when these reports get done, they just
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Speaker 3: sit here on their shelf And yeah, well that's what
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Speaker 3: we do get, we say, they said, we get these
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Speaker 3: reports all the time, and they literally sit there in
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Speaker 3: city Hall and collect dust for decades. Uh, it would
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Speaker 3: not surprise me one bit if this report done in
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty is sitting somewhere in City Hall on a
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Speaker 3: shelf collecting dust. City Council back then was a lot
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Speaker 3: like City Council now. I think City Council back then
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Speaker 3: was a tad more responsible. I mean, I mean it was.
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Speaker 3: It was from my experience, it was a daily clown show.
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Speaker 3: And this goes back. I go back to the time
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Speaker 3: when Chris Smithman was first on council and he, I
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Speaker 3: mean the Chris Smitheman was on council then is nothing
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Speaker 3: compared to the Chris Smithman that we have now. But
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Speaker 3: anyone who spent any time in the City Hall can
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Speaker 3: tell you that the City Hall has these reports all
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Speaker 3: over the place and God knows where they wind up,
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Speaker 3: but they don't largely they do not get acted upon.
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Speaker 3: So for this not to be acted upon is par
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Speaker 3: for the course. I have more thoughts on this, but
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Speaker 3: we got to get to another break five twenty five
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Speaker 3: at fifty five KRC the talk station, Hey looking for
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Speaker 3: a good reputable electrical company. Who seven hundred, seven hundred
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Speaker 3: fifty five KRC. At some point I knew that was
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Speaker 3: going to roll out of my mouth during this week,
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Speaker 3: But fifty five krs the talk station Dan Carroll for
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Speaker 3: Brian Thomas, and I was talking about my experience at
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Speaker 3: City Hall and this report that came out six years
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Speaker 3: ago talking about the need for a new bridge and
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Speaker 3: a flood ate in a redesign of that whole area
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Speaker 3: in there on Madison Road in the Duck Creek to
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Speaker 3: help prevent flooding like we saw late last week on
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Speaker 3: the seventeenth. And I was talking about City Hall, and
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Speaker 3: if memory serves, John Cranley was the mayor at that
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Speaker 3: time in twenty twenty. But Joe, maybe it's maybe it's
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Speaker 3: unfortunate that the report came out in twenty twenty because
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Speaker 3: what was going on in twenty twenty, that, of course
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Speaker 3: was the Wuhan. The Wuhan was going on in twenty
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Speaker 3: and as we know, government was incapable of doing anything
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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty because of the Wuhan. Right, we had
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Speaker 3: money going out on accountable spending, all kinds of fraud. Well,
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Speaker 3: we can't do anything about that because of the Wuhan.
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Speaker 3: So maybe that's why nothing could have been done about this,
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Speaker 3: No action could have been taken. But again, to my
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Speaker 3: way of thinking, this simply points out the inability of
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Speaker 3: government federal, state, or local, to be proactive in a
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Speaker 3: meaningful way, to be responsive in a meaningful way. Of course, again,
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Speaker 3: what's sexy is showing up at the groundbreaking for the
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Speaker 3: new hotel downtown. They'll all be there when the ribbon
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Speaker 3: cutting happens, when this thing opens in when's I supposed
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Speaker 3: to open, like in three years from now something like that. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: they'll all be there for that. But no talking about
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Speaker 3: floodgates and sewers and creeks and concrete work and all
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Speaker 3: the rest of that. That's not the sexy stuff. That's
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Speaker 3: not the kind of stuff that you make campaign commercials about.
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Speaker 3: You know, when when the when the Obama administration came
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Speaker 3: in and told us we had to rebuild our sewer
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Speaker 3: systems in Cincinnati. Uh, that was that wasn't sexy. But
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Speaker 3: there were hundreds of millions of dollars floating around, slush
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Speaker 3: funds all over the place, and plenty of people around
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Speaker 3: to put their hands in that mess and siphon off
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Speaker 3: as much as they could. I still think one of
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Speaker 3: the most undercovered and biggest scandals ever in the Cincinnati
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Speaker 3: of Cincinnati or in the city of Cincinnati that went
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Speaker 3: largely uncovered and I hopefully one of these days all
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Speaker 3: that will, all that fraud and all that criminality will
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Speaker 3: come to light. Let's go to the phones, and Tom
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Speaker 3: is checking in this morning, and Tom, how are you
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Speaker 3: this morning?
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Speaker 1: Oh, it's a beautiful day. I've been I've been looking
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Speaker 1: forward to a day like this where I I step
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Speaker 1: outside and it's nice and cool, feels nice and cool.
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Speaker 3: You can see the stars, no clowns overhead.
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Speaker 1: Right, wildfire smoke.
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Speaker 3: I didn't taste any of that this morning on my
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Speaker 3: way in and I drive. I drive on morning like this,
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Speaker 3: I drive with the windows down and so that, yeah,
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Speaker 3: it was. It was very nice.
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Speaker 1: Great. Yeah, yeah, I'm telling Joe, I played golf after
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Speaker 1: work yesterday. I might have to do it again today.
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Speaker 1: So really nice. I just want to change gears just
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Speaker 1: for a second. I need, I need, I need to
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Speaker 1: get something off my chest. So I often do some
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Speaker 1: driving tips. And what one tip is, if you're at
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Speaker 1: an intersection and let's say your direction is backed up.
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Speaker 1: You can look at obvious it's backed up and you
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Speaker 1: cannot get all the way through the intersection. Don't go
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Speaker 1: into the intersection because if you don't think the people
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Speaker 1: going the other directions like crossing that intersection if you
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Speaker 1: don't think they have somewhere to be also, then you're
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Speaker 1: just selfish and ignorant. So if you pull into the
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Speaker 1: intersection and you're stopped and because your direction stopped and
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Speaker 1: you're you're blocking people going across that intersection the other way,
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Speaker 1: well you're I can't say what, I can't use these words.
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Speaker 1: What what you are? That's that's that's ridiculous, unacceptable.
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Speaker 3: No, I'm with you there. I if I know I'm
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Speaker 3: not going to make it through an intersection or you know,
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Speaker 3: or there's a chance I'm going to be stuck in
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Speaker 3: my car is halfway through that intersection, I don't go.
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Speaker 3: I only go what I know I can make it
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Speaker 3: all the way through.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's safety to think about you and
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Speaker 1: the people in your car. But there's also common curtsy.
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Speaker 1: And that's that's the problem. People don't have. People don't
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Speaker 1: have common courtesy. So yeah, let's uh, let's try to
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Speaker 1: keep that in mind people and know coach. Most importantly,
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Speaker 1: don't vote, vote, have a great gay game.
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Speaker 3: Words to live by as always, don't block the intersections,
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Speaker 3: and don't vote Democrat. This we we we you know,
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Speaker 3: we always got our hat and hang our hat on that.
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Speaker 3: Thanks to the words of Tom Early this morning, five
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Speaker 3: thirty five fifty five KRCV talk station.
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Speaker 2: You're one stop for advertising called eight four four.
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Speaker 3: The talk station. You know, one of the questions that
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Speaker 3: was being asked during the flooding last week is where
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Speaker 3: was the mayor? Where was mayor? A have to have purvole, Joe.
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Speaker 3: Do you know where the mayor was when the flooding
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Speaker 3: was going on last week? Out of town? Out of town?
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Speaker 3: Do you know where he was? Out of town? He
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Speaker 3: was in Los Angeles, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, hanging
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Speaker 3: out with his buddy, Mayor Karen Bass. I'm sure they're
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Speaker 3: close friends. This is a thing. Look, Mayor pervol should
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Speaker 3: do us all a favor and say I am going
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Speaker 3: to be out of town this day, this day, this day,
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Speaker 3: this weekend, because usually when he goes out of town,
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Speaker 3: the excrement hits the fan, if you know what I mean.
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Speaker 3: When the historic stormed and again reporting here by the
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Speaker 3: Inquirer yesterday, when the historic storm dumped several inches of
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Speaker 3: rain on Cincinnat's east side July seventeenth, Mayor Pervall was
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Speaker 3: in Los Angeles, the mayor spokesperson confirmed to the Inquirer.
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Speaker 3: Purvoll was attending the Asian American Pacific Islander Leadership elected
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Speaker 3: an appointed summit, commonly known as the AAPI Lead Summit. Joe,
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Speaker 3: that just rolls off the tongue, doesn't it, the AAPI
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Speaker 3: Lead Summit. It was the third time this year. Then
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Speaker 3: a major incident broke out in the city while the
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Speaker 3: mayor was out of town. In July of twenty five,
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Speaker 3: of course, there was the big brawl on the Cincinnati
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Speaker 3: streets in that video when viral was shown for days
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Speaker 3: and weeks on end on national television. The mayor was
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Speaker 3: vacationing in Vancouver. In March of this year, the mayor
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Speaker 3: missed opening day went out of town for another vacation.
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Speaker 3: It was spring break, very important, of course, disorder erupted
25:29
Speaker 3: outside Great American Ballpark, forcing police to shut down the banks.
25:33
Speaker 3: This time he was out of town for the Asian
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Speaker 3: American Leader's Summit. He hosted a July eighteenth panel discussion
25:40
Speaker 3: with other Asian American leaders entitled Fireside the Exchange Viewpoints
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Speaker 3: Beyond the Ballot. The panel included film producer and former
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Speaker 3: president of the Academy of Motion Pictures and Sciences, Janet
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Speaker 3: Yang brought together diverse perspectives to explore themes of idea, identity, resilience,
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Speaker 3: and the evolving AAPI experience in the professional space. According
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Speaker 3: to the Summits website, Prevail serves as secretary for the
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Speaker 3: AAPI Lead Board of Directors. I did not know that,
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Speaker 3: so congratulations to him. Very important summit. Of course he did.
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Speaker 3: He did send a Facebook statement on July seventeenth alerting
26:29
Speaker 3: the public that city employees across departments are engaged on
26:34
Speaker 3: managing current conditions. So there was that, and then he
26:39
Speaker 3: was back on the nineteenth and of course had a
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Speaker 3: meeting with staff on July twenty first, So congratulations to
26:45
Speaker 3: the inquirer. That question has now been cleared up. Where
26:49
Speaker 3: was the mayor when all hell broke loose? Dave? What
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Speaker 3: say you this morning?
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Speaker 4: Well?
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Speaker 5: I was listen for your time there, and I have
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Speaker 5: been having a bit of a pee for a long
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Speaker 5: time by people blocking the intersection.
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Speaker 3: Really are we going to do a whole discussion about
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Speaker 3: this this morning?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: That's why, you know what. That's one thing about doing
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Speaker 3: these radio shows. Sometimes you never know what direction they're
27:21
Speaker 3: going to go, I'm here talking about the report. I'm
27:24
Speaker 3: talking about the report that was done six years ago saying, look,
27:29
Speaker 3: we need to do something about the Mill Creek. Uh
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Speaker 3: if we if we change things, we get rid of
27:33
Speaker 3: the floodgate, we put a new bridge over there, reconfigure,
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Speaker 3: well what's going on underneath, we can prevent flooding like
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Speaker 3: we had last week. But no, we're talking about blocking intersection.
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Speaker 3: So I mean, you know, who am I to decide
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Speaker 3: what direction the show is going to go? Go hang out.
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Speaker 5: Outside of an intersection, waiting, waiting because I can't clear it,
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Speaker 5: and people will make the right hand turns in front
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Speaker 5: of me, blocking the intersection, so I can't make them
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Speaker 5: go through.
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Speaker 1: I hate that.
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Speaker 3: I hate that when that happens. It had sure, it
28:06
Speaker 3: happens sometimes.
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Speaker 5: All the time, and it's a bit of a problem.
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Speaker 5: So that's my bed.
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Speaker 3: Well, Dave, I appreciate you in in this morning, and
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Speaker 3: you sound like you were on the road right there,
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Speaker 3: so you know, good luck to you on the road
28:22
Speaker 3: out there, and be careful at because that that I
28:26
Speaker 3: and I guess, maybe Joe, I guess I misread the
28:29
Speaker 3: audience this morning. I should have been talking about the
28:32
Speaker 3: frustrations of getting through an intersection and people who don't
28:37
Speaker 3: see the need to make sure they can clear the
28:39
Speaker 3: intersection what they And there's different intersections across different parts
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Speaker 3: of town, and you see a sign up there that
28:46
Speaker 3: says do not block the intersection, so follow the signs.
28:52
Speaker 3: I always like to make sure when I when I
28:54
Speaker 3: pull up to a stoplight, a stop sign, an intersection,
28:59
Speaker 3: and I come to a stop the one thing I
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Speaker 3: always do is make sure I have an escape route
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Speaker 3: should I need to get out of there in a hurry.
29:10
Speaker 3: I try to always make sure that I've got room
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Speaker 3: to maneuver that if need be, I can get out
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Speaker 3: of there in a moment's notice. But that's just me.
29:22
Speaker 3: And if if you want to talk about traffic conditions,
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Speaker 3: if you want to talk about intersections, you want to
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Speaker 3: talk about all that, please be me my airwaves or
29:32
Speaker 3: your ares. Five three seven hundred Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas,
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Speaker 3: fifty five KRCV talk.
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Speaker 2: Station Harvest Stride, Save Food, Save Money, Harvestrich.
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Speaker 3: During the break, Joe was telling me about video of
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Speaker 3: our mayor. I have to have Purval who was in
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Speaker 3: one of the areas that was hit by the flood
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Speaker 3: and he said he had on what do you have on?
30:02
Speaker 3: He had on a fireman's hat, a ball cap, okay,
30:06
Speaker 3: and then a one of the reflective jerseys, one of
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Speaker 3: the reflective vests, and he was picking up a bag
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Speaker 3: of debris and another item assisting with some of the
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Speaker 3: flood cleanup. So, mister mayor, thank you for that. I'm
30:20
Speaker 3: sure those folks greatly appreciate your efforts to pitch in
30:25
Speaker 3: and help clean up after those devastating floodwaters. That's our mayor, Bobby,
30:31
Speaker 3: What say you this morning? And then we got can
30:34
Speaker 3: happy hump, happy hump, happy hump day. My fray, I'm
30:37
Speaker 3: with you.
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Speaker 6: Well, I got a question. I got a question about
30:40
Speaker 6: the mayor. Yes, sir, anytime I worked for a company
30:43
Speaker 6: that I went out of town and had to do,
30:46
Speaker 6: you know, work for the city, or work for anybody else,
30:49
Speaker 6: doesn't he come back and do a report with an
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Speaker 6: expense report of how much he spent where he went?
30:54
Speaker 6: Does he fly first class private jet? I mean, you know,
30:58
Speaker 6: here's mayor of the top city. Now he's entitled to
31:02
Speaker 6: a lot of things. But you know, if you can't
31:04
Speaker 6: make your car payments and everything, why are you traveling
31:07
Speaker 6: all over the country.
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Speaker 3: You know what, that's a good question. The piece says
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Speaker 3: that he is the secretary of this organization, the AAIP
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Speaker 3: lead the board of directors. He's a secretary, so I
31:22
Speaker 3: don't know if if they pay for his travel. I'm
31:25
Speaker 3: not sure how that is, how that's figured out. I
31:29
Speaker 3: would imagine there's an expense report somewhere that the mayor
31:34
Speaker 3: is required to fill out. I know when oh, now,
31:40
Speaker 3: the Mark Mallory was the mayor, I know his expense
31:44
Speaker 3: reports came to light and it turned out he was
31:46
Speaker 3: traveling quite frequently, you know, a lot of times to
31:49
Speaker 3: foreign countries, and made a lot of trips to China,
31:52
Speaker 3: and made a lot of trips to France, made a
31:55
Speaker 3: lot of trips to various European countries and so yeah,
32:01
Speaker 3: so it was somewhere. Yes, I believe he is required
32:05
Speaker 3: to report any and all expenses related to his travel.
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Speaker 3: I don't know that he was traveling on behalf of
32:12
Speaker 3: the city of Cincinnati. But again, he is the secretary,
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Speaker 3: according to the inquirer of the API lead board of Directors.
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Speaker 6: I thought he was in charge of shady though I
32:23
Speaker 6: didn't know, you know.
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Speaker 3: With there, maybe maybe he does that basis. Apparently our
32:28
Speaker 3: mayor wears a lot of hats. As Joe pointed out yesterday,
32:31
Speaker 3: he had a hat on while he was helping clean
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Speaker 3: up some of the flood damage. Bobby, thank you very
32:38
Speaker 3: much for the call, and let's get one more call
32:40
Speaker 3: in here before we got to get through the breaking
32:42
Speaker 3: news at the top of the hour. This is Ken Ken.
32:44
Speaker 3: You're on fifty five KRC.
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Speaker 7: All right, Dan, thanks a lot for this topic. And
32:49
Speaker 7: it's very important.
32:50
Speaker 3: And I think that about driving through intersections, no, okay, about.
32:55
Speaker 7: That, the urgency of these that's to call it, let
33:01
Speaker 7: you know you're on the right track, and and and
33:05
Speaker 7: the the urgency of these reports. And uh, the the
33:11
Speaker 7: railroad money was was uh was you know, it was
33:14
Speaker 7: already it was sold, So there's there's money there. And
33:18
Speaker 7: I think that, uh what comes to mind is how
33:22
Speaker 7: Western Hills via that is still lingering about.
33:25
Speaker 1: So I think somebody should go on.
33:28
Speaker 7: And and and get this stuff fixed and started and
33:32
Speaker 7: start working on this stuff.
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Speaker 1: They can't say you don't have the money, and you
33:36
Speaker 1: don't have it.
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Speaker 7: It's already Western Hills Byduck is already is already crumbling.
33:40
Speaker 7: And I'm sure there's plenty of reports about that, and
33:43
Speaker 7: then until they get this floodgate fixed.
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Speaker 1: Uh maybe just fix it where it stays up.
33:49
Speaker 7: Or you know so so if if it doesn't uh
33:53
Speaker 7: you know, come up automatically, then it's already up. Or
33:56
Speaker 7: some have something to do because every time we have
33:59
Speaker 7: a range, it's like we had an the rain yesterday.
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Speaker 7: Uh you started to save the same flooding again because
34:04
Speaker 7: it hasn't been fixed yet. So somebody down there needs
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Speaker 7: to get on the ball and get the stuff done.
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Speaker 3: Well, Ken, don't hold your breath on that, because this
34:12
Speaker 3: plays up the unseriousness of these members of city council.
34:17
Speaker 3: And I'm the city manager and the mayor. If look,
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Speaker 3: if we knew we were going to have this huge
34:24
Speaker 3: influx of money and we were going to be able
34:27
Speaker 3: to address all these infrastructure needs. To my way of thinking,
34:31
Speaker 3: if it was me, I would have said, Okay, well,
34:33
Speaker 3: let's let's make sure we have a plan together. Let's
34:36
Speaker 3: let's talk with all the departments, uh with up. We
34:39
Speaker 3: know we get these kind of reports coming in all
34:42
Speaker 3: the time about what needs to be addressed. Let's get
34:45
Speaker 3: some priorities set. Let's have a clear understanding we have
34:49
Speaker 3: X amount of dollars to use this year, we're going
34:52
Speaker 3: to address this, this and this, and we're going to
34:54
Speaker 3: get the ball rolling. Let's move on this but that,
34:56
Speaker 3: but that has not happened. So, in reality, six years
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Speaker 3: from a report to having a new bridge or a
35:04
Speaker 3: new floodgator that whole area reconfigured there on Madison Road,
35:08
Speaker 3: is there a likelihood that that's not going to happen.
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Speaker 8: Not?
35:11
Speaker 3: Possibly it could have happened if they would have jumped
35:14
Speaker 3: on that right away. But we don't even have the
35:18
Speaker 3: idea that this was even on the radar. We don't
35:22
Speaker 3: have any idea at all that anyone at city Hall
35:25
Speaker 3: thought this was a priority in any sort of way.
35:28
Speaker 3: And now that we have the money to fix it, again,
35:31
Speaker 3: we don't have a clear understanding of anything that is
35:34
Speaker 3: a priority for this city Council or the people who
35:37
Speaker 3: control that money to go out and get those jobs done.
35:41
Speaker 3: And it's all very haphazard. The money is sitting there,
35:43
Speaker 3: it's not being spent, and there is again complete inaction
35:48
Speaker 3: on behalf of those who are charged with taking action
35:52
Speaker 3: to get these things done. Ken, we got to get
35:53
Speaker 3: to a break. I thank you very much for your
35:55
Speaker 3: call this morning. Five point fifty six at fifty five
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Speaker 3: five KRC DE talk station six oh five Wednesday morning,
36:16
Speaker 3: July twenty second, Dan Carol for Brian Thomas one more day.
36:20
Speaker 3: Gary Jeff will be in on Thursday and Friday. Just
36:24
Speaker 3: started Chuck talking about northbound seventy five shutdown. As a Charles,
36:29
Speaker 3: I dialed that camera up on the OGO website and
36:33
Speaker 3: that traffic is not moving northbound seventy five. It as
36:36
Speaker 3: a Charles, and we'll do our best to keep you
36:39
Speaker 3: updated on that as as we go throughout the morning.
36:42
Speaker 3: Don't have a shot of the actual the actual accident scene.
36:47
Speaker 3: The camera there is the accident is right around the
36:50
Speaker 3: ben from Lynn Street and just a little bit north
36:56
Speaker 3: is as a Charles, but it looks like it looks
36:58
Speaker 3: like some traffic maybe maybe getting through. Looks like there
37:02
Speaker 3: might be one lane of traffic open, but northbound seventy five,
37:06
Speaker 3: that is a major problem for you right now. Of course,
37:08
Speaker 3: I was talking the first hour about the report that
37:14
Speaker 3: the Inquirer put out report six years ago from an
37:18
Speaker 3: engineering firm recommending that they replaced the bridge over Duck
37:24
Speaker 3: Creek and Oakley and help reduce the risk of flooding,
37:29
Speaker 3: eliminate the need for a floodgate, lower insurance costs for
37:32
Speaker 3: property owners in the area. And that report apparently never
37:36
Speaker 3: saw the light of day at City Hall at the time.
37:40
Speaker 3: And I, as I said, if memory serves, Mayor Cranley
37:44
Speaker 3: was in office in twenty twenty, which he was, but
37:48
Speaker 3: only in the first week of January. Mayor Aftab Purvol
37:53
Speaker 3: was sworn in as the mayor of Cincinnati January fourth,
37:58
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. That falls, I guess, you know, the
38:04
Speaker 3: lack of action on that report falls on probably a
38:07
Speaker 3: couple of administrations. But Cranley was in office twenty twenty.
38:11
Speaker 3: Pervol became the mayor in twenty twenty two. Let's see
38:14
Speaker 3: what Jay has to say. And Jay, good morning. You're
38:17
Speaker 3: on fifty five KRC.
38:19
Speaker 1: Hey, good morning, Hey.
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Speaker 9: I wanted to follow up on a Tom Zallastowski's segment
38:26
Speaker 9: last week. He talked about that Matt Hoffman and Rob
38:30
Speaker 9: McAuley were blocking his attempt or blocking legislation that evidently
38:36
Speaker 9: was ready to go to the floor for a vote
38:39
Speaker 9: to take part of the four billion dollar quote rainy
38:42
Speaker 9: Day Fund. Isn't that a nice term for legalized theft.
38:45
Speaker 9: Rainy Day Fund is four billion dollars collected in Ohio
38:49
Speaker 9: tax payer funds set aside because it's more than what
38:53
Speaker 9: they need to run the government. So our conservative core
38:57
Speaker 9: rib conservatives that are up there and in Columbus, they're
39:02
Speaker 9: just going to hang on to it. And Tom Zawski
39:06
Speaker 9: was talking about that. There was legislation kind of moving
39:08
Speaker 9: forward to take a portion of that theft and give
39:12
Speaker 9: it back to us in a form of gas tax relief,
39:15
Speaker 9: but Huffman and mcaulay were blocking it. Now he suggested
39:18
Speaker 9: we call them. I think that's a good idea, But
39:21
Speaker 9: with McCauley, I think there's a better way to put
39:24
Speaker 9: some pressure on him. He's the Senate president and he's
39:27
Speaker 9: also been tapped by the Vake Ramaswami I think as
39:30
Speaker 9: being his lieutenant governor picks or when he's going to
39:34
Speaker 9: run for governor here or he's.
39:35
Speaker 10: Running for governor.
39:36
Speaker 9: So I would encourage, yes, call them, call both of them,
39:39
Speaker 9: but also reach out to the Veke. I think he's
39:42
Speaker 9: got a website I know he does, called the Vike
39:45
Speaker 9: for Ohio or something like that, and send him a
39:47
Speaker 9: message telling him that, hey, you may want to rethink
39:51
Speaker 9: McCauley as being your pick, because this is not low
39:55
Speaker 9: tax and small government conservative principles, and this blocking the
40:00
Speaker 9: ability to get a little bit of our tax money
40:04
Speaker 9: stolen tax money backs. And let's see if it's a
40:06
Speaker 9: vacanbut his boy on a leash, because we know that
40:09
Speaker 9: Huffman and McCauley and all the rest of them, the
40:10
Speaker 9: one thing that they want is more power and the
40:13
Speaker 9: next bigger job and you know, advanced to governor and
40:16
Speaker 9: then Washington, d C. And they can be a permanent
40:19
Speaker 9: member of the swamp like they're up in Columbus.
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Speaker 11: So I would encourage people reach out to.
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Speaker 9: Viveke and tell them that you're not impressed with McCauley
40:27
Speaker 9: as his pick.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that conversation go forward.
40:30
Speaker 3: And Jay and I thank you very much for the
40:33
Speaker 3: phone call. Jay, and I think you make some good
40:35
Speaker 3: points there, and Tom Zoastowski makes some good points on
40:39
Speaker 3: that as well. If the government has all this extra
40:43
Speaker 3: money that it doesn't need, the notion and it seems
40:47
Speaker 3: like the notion of giving that money back to the
40:50
Speaker 3: taxpayers is always something that that's way down, way way
40:54
Speaker 3: down on the list of things to do with that money.
40:57
Speaker 3: And so when I look at the vike ramis want me,
41:02
Speaker 3: I've got great confidence in him. I think he's I
41:06
Speaker 3: think he's obviously a highly intelligent individual. Anyone that is
41:10
Speaker 3: able to make the kind of money that he made
41:13
Speaker 3: at an extremely young age and become super successful as
41:17
Speaker 3: he was is not someone who was not spartan. But
41:22
Speaker 3: when it comes to politics, I think we've seen some
41:26
Speaker 3: of the a little bit of the naivete, a little
41:30
Speaker 3: bit of the inexperience that he had when with some
41:34
Speaker 3: of the people that he has chosen to surround himself with.
41:37
Speaker 3: I am not really I'm not faulting him for that.
41:40
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that this is pretty much the territory.
41:45
Speaker 3: This is what comes with the territory when you decide
41:48
Speaker 3: to wade into these waters. And I think we saw
41:51
Speaker 3: Trump make some of the same mistakes during his first
41:54
Speaker 3: term that he relied on the advice of others to
42:00
Speaker 3: select who would be members of his cabinet, to select
42:04
Speaker 3: the individuals that he would surround himself with, and we
42:08
Speaker 3: saw during that first term of Trump some of the
42:12
Speaker 3: chaos that ensued. I think there were some really good
42:15
Speaker 3: people that Trump surrounded himself with in his first term
42:19
Speaker 3: but there were others who just simply were mistakes, and
42:24
Speaker 3: I think Aftab Purval has made some of those mistakes
42:28
Speaker 3: during the course of this campaign. This is I mean,
42:32
Speaker 3: obviously he ran for president, but that was a very
42:34
Speaker 3: short lived campaign. During his run for president, now that
42:39
Speaker 3: he's running for governor of Ohio, I think he has
42:43
Speaker 3: taken the advice of some of the party apparatics that
42:50
Speaker 3: have been around for a long time, and maybe that
42:53
Speaker 3: is not the best advice for his campaign. I think
42:58
Speaker 3: he has the ability to pick individuals that he wants
43:03
Speaker 3: to surround himself with, but I think he also deferred
43:08
Speaker 3: to some of the advice that he was given by
43:11
Speaker 3: those who have been in politics a lot longer than
43:13
Speaker 3: he has. And I think the tenor of the call
43:18
Speaker 3: we just had there and what Tom Zastowski had to
43:22
Speaker 3: say yesterday really points that out. So are there some shortcomings?
43:28
Speaker 3: Have there been some missteps? I think absolutely is avak
43:32
Speaker 3: Ramaswami a far far better candidate and would be a
43:38
Speaker 3: far far better governor than Amy acting. I think there
43:42
Speaker 3: is absolutely absolutely no comparison there. He would absolutely be
43:50
Speaker 3: a much better governor and govern in a much more
43:54
Speaker 3: effective and meaningful way than Amy acton ever could. And
44:01
Speaker 3: this always boils down to the notion that those who
44:06
Speaker 3: are dissatisfied with whatever missteps for Ake Ramaswami has made
44:11
Speaker 3: will simply not go out and vote for him because
44:15
Speaker 3: and they want to, you know, I guess that that's
44:17
Speaker 3: their their idea and their way of holding him accountable
44:21
Speaker 3: for making those missteps or what simply will you know
44:25
Speaker 3: what what appear to be missteps. I don't think that's
44:28
Speaker 3: the right way to deal with it either. And Tom
44:31
Speaker 3: Zowastowski during his segment yesterday was making that point very clear.
44:41
Speaker 3: I don't care who the candidate is. Anyone who is
44:46
Speaker 3: a thinking and a serious person when it comes to
44:48
Speaker 3: issues like this is not going to have one hundred
44:51
Speaker 3: percent agreement across the board with any candidate. There are
44:56
Speaker 3: things that Donald Trump does that I don't agree with,
45:00
Speaker 3: and when those things happen, I talk about it. There
45:03
Speaker 3: are things that his members of his cabinet, the Vice
45:06
Speaker 3: president say and do that I don't agree with, and
45:09
Speaker 3: when those things happen, I talk about it. I'm looking
45:12
Speaker 3: at right now what the House did last night. House
45:17
Speaker 3: Republicans voted last night representative. But the Republicans, of course
45:22
Speaker 3: drove this. They voted last night to fully fund the
45:26
Speaker 3: government through a short term continuing resolution until December fourth,
45:33
Speaker 3: As another government funding deadline looms, the House is scheduled
45:37
Speaker 3: to recess on July twenty fourth, or July twenty fourth
45:41
Speaker 3: through August thirty first. Funding for a federal agency program
45:48
Speaker 3: or four federal agency programs is set to expire midnight
45:52
Speaker 3: on September thirtieth, so again with an August recess, the
45:59
Speaker 3: entire month of all August, so July twenty fourth through
46:04
Speaker 3: August thirty first, And then Mike Johnson talks about how,
46:10
Speaker 3: oh yeah, there's you know, there's time to get this
46:13
Speaker 3: done and that done, and he's, you know, he's slamming
46:16
Speaker 3: the Democrats for not going along with the continuing resolution. Now,
46:20
Speaker 3: I don't know, is anyone listening to me right now
46:23
Speaker 3: happy with the idea that we have another continuing resolution
46:29
Speaker 3: to fund the government. We all thought this is not
46:36
Speaker 3: what we voted for. So I'm very unhappy with that.
46:42
Speaker 3: Does it mean that I want to switch leadership? Does
46:45
Speaker 3: it mean I want to put a different party in
46:46
Speaker 3: control of Washington d C? Absolutely not. I got to
46:50
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Speaker 3: The talk station fifty five KRC, the talk station. I
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Speaker 3: was talking about the statement released by Speaker of the
47:13
Speaker 3: House Mike Johnson after the House passed a bill that
47:19
Speaker 3: is another continuing resolution short term funding for the federal government,
47:26
Speaker 3: and Mike Johnson writes, House Republicans took the responsible step
47:30
Speaker 3: of passing a clean, short term continuing resolution the fund
47:35
Speaker 3: our government through the November elections. Sadly, predictably and predictably,
47:41
Speaker 3: two hundred and four House Democrats voted against the measure.
47:45
Speaker 3: Given the Democrats have already forced two the two longest
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Speaker 3: government shutdowns in American history this Congress, and it's clear
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Speaker 3: they don't care what kind of pain they inflict on
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Speaker 3: the American people or hundreds of thousands of federal workers
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Speaker 3: worse to work without pay. Then he writes this, while
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Speaker 3: time remains until the end of the fiscal year, and
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Speaker 3: that happens on September whatever, September thirtieth, that is when
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Speaker 3: funding for these programs is set to expire. On September thirtieth,
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Speaker 3: today is July twenty second. Congress is going on recess
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Speaker 3: July twenty fourth, that is two days today and tomorrow,
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Speaker 3: July twenty fourth, they will be in recess until the
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Speaker 3: end of August. So you're telling me, Mike Johnson, from
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Speaker 3: the end of August until September thirtieth that there is
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Speaker 3: time to act responsibly in this fiscal year. You've got
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Speaker 3: to be kidding me. You're going to take an entire
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Speaker 3: month off and leave us with another continuing resolution that
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Speaker 3: is now going to to go to the Senate. Senate
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Speaker 3: majority of Leader John Thune said that he will put
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Speaker 3: a short term stop gap bill to fund the government
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Speaker 3: on the floor before the August recess. And we're and
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Speaker 3: we're supposed to believe that this is a clean I
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Speaker 3: don't I don't have any I don't have any text,
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Speaker 3: I don't have any any wording of this this continuing
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Speaker 3: resolution to show there are anything that indicates that it
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Speaker 3: is I'm using my air quotes here, clean to fund
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Speaker 3: the government. But John Thune says that he'll put a
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Speaker 3: short term stop gap bill on the floor before the
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Speaker 3: August recess and warned that republic could pursue a party
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Speaker 3: line spending bill if they can't reach a deal with Democrats. Well,
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Speaker 3: how's that going to get done? In the next two days.
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Speaker 3: So we're going to have this continuing resolution passed by
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Speaker 3: the House. John Thune says he's going to get something
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Speaker 3: on the floor of the Senate before the August recess,
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Speaker 3: which happens in two days. And then I guess when
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Speaker 3: they come back, they'll know if there needs to be
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Speaker 3: a reconciliation on this bill, then they'll do that and
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Speaker 3: they'll get that approved. And while lah, we've got funding
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Speaker 3: for the federal government. And I go back to what
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Speaker 3: I said before the break, this is not what we
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Speaker 3: voted for when we try to get conservative Republicans in
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Speaker 3: the House of Representatives and in the Senate. This is
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Speaker 3: not a responsible way to run government. This is not
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Speaker 3: what Donald Trump wants. Donald Trump talked about this even
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Speaker 3: going back to his first term. I remember when he
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Speaker 3: first had to sign a spending bill, he said that
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Speaker 3: he wouldn't sign another one. The first time they put
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Speaker 3: a cr in front of him, he said he wouldn't
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Speaker 3: sign another one. Joe, do you remember that at all?
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Speaker 3: When Trump said that, Yeah? How many has he affixed
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Speaker 3: his signature too since then? Way too many. This is
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Speaker 3: how we fund our government. Now, you know, we have
51:29
Speaker 3: hearings on Capitol Hill, and I've got I've got great
51:31
Speaker 3: audio from some of the hearings that we had yesterday.
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Speaker 3: And I know some appropriations bills have been approved, but
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Speaker 3: this is not how we're supposed to be funding the
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Speaker 3: federal government, just playing fast and loose with all these
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Speaker 3: deadlines and continuing resolutions. So and I agree there's some
51:56
Speaker 3: partisan divide that's going on here that leads to a
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Speaker 3: lot of this kind of stuff. Anything that Republicans want,
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Speaker 3: anything that even remotely furthers the agenda of the Trump administration.
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Speaker 3: King Jefferies and Democrats are going to stand against no
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Speaker 3: matter what come, hell or high water, they are going
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Speaker 3: to stand against it. Why because it has Trump's name
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Speaker 3: on it and that and there really is no other
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Speaker 3: reason than that I have, In fact I have I
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Speaker 3: don't have time for it right now, but I actually
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Speaker 3: have a sound bite from a Democrat, a Democrat member,
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Speaker 3: a Democrat senator. His name is Peter Welch. And this
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Speaker 3: is the first time, and hopefully this represents a break
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Speaker 3: in the dam and for the first time that I
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Speaker 3: can remember, on a national news program on CNN, We've
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Speaker 3: got a Democrat actually admitting they were wrong. And I'll
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Speaker 3: play that for you after the break here that we've
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Speaker 3: got to get to right now. Six twenty six, Dan
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that situation on seventy five northbound is not good
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Speaker 3: at all. If you're coming, if you're listening to me,
53:31
Speaker 3: and you're coming through northern Kentucky and you normally head
53:34
Speaker 3: north across the Brent Spence Bridge, get out of there
53:38
Speaker 3: if you can. This traffic is not moving at all.
53:41
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the camera right now on seventy five
53:46
Speaker 3: by Ezra Charles that traffic has not moved. I mean literally,
53:50
Speaker 3: it has not moved a foot in the last half
53:55
Speaker 3: an hour. And this traffic is backing all the way
53:59
Speaker 3: up now almost to to two seventy five. Let me see,
54:05
Speaker 3: you know this is the seventy one split. Oh my god, yeah,
54:08
Speaker 3: this is this is I'm looking at the camera at
54:10
Speaker 3: Dixie Highway. It is at a complete standstill. If you're
54:14
Speaker 3: close to if you're close to two seventy five, you
54:19
Speaker 3: want to bail out on two seventy five and go around.
54:21
Speaker 3: If you're driving a big rig northbound on seventy five
54:25
Speaker 3: and you don't have business in downtown Cincinnati. Yeah, bail
54:28
Speaker 3: out at two seventy five either way around, either through
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Speaker 3: Indiana or on. I would suggest going through Indiana. I
54:36
Speaker 3: wouldn't want to hit four seventy one right now because
54:38
Speaker 3: four to seventy one is going to wind up being
54:41
Speaker 3: affected by this as well. So yeah, I would definitely
54:46
Speaker 3: just go all the way around on two seventy five
54:48
Speaker 3: et around the east side. But my if it was
54:51
Speaker 3: me and I was heading northbound on seventy five in
54:56
Speaker 3: northern Kentucky, I would head west and loop around out
54:59
Speaker 3: by the air. I know it's out of your way.
55:01
Speaker 3: I know it's a little bit of a longer drive,
55:04
Speaker 3: but at least that traffic will be moving, because northbound
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Speaker 3: seventy five through northern Kentucky all the way across the
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Speaker 3: Brent Spnce Bridge is not good right now, and that
55:16
Speaker 3: that traffic on I've been watching this ever since Chuck
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Speaker 3: first talked about it on northbound seventy five near Ezra
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Speaker 3: Charles and again that traffic not moving at all. So
55:28
Speaker 3: you don't want any part of that. Yeah, I feel
55:31
Speaker 3: terrible for these people who were stuck in this but
55:34
Speaker 3: it is not good for them, It is not good
55:36
Speaker 3: for anyone. So we'll I'll do my best to keep
55:39
Speaker 3: you updated on that, and of course we'll have regular
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Speaker 3: updates from Chuck as we as we go on this
55:43
Speaker 3: morning five one three, seven fifty five hundred. I was
55:47
Speaker 3: talking about a SoundBite that I had from a this
55:53
Speaker 3: was a CNN show and I believe it was yesterday,
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Speaker 3: And uh, it's called a show called the Arena. And
56:03
Speaker 3: what the heck is this gal's name that is the host?
56:05
Speaker 3: Let me see, let me see if this comes up here.
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Speaker 3: And now I don't know what her name is, doesn't matter.
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Speaker 3: But the senator is Democrat Senator Pete Welch. And this
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Speaker 3: is the rarest of soundbites that you will ever hear
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Speaker 3: from Democrats, especially in this day of Trump being in charge.
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Speaker 3: But Peter Welch listened carefully as he talks about Democrat
56:28
Speaker 3: policy on the southern border. And what did we hear, Joe,
56:33
Speaker 3: what did we hear the entire time that Joe Biden
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Speaker 3: was in office? The border is closed, the border is secure.
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Speaker 3: Joe Biden is to win a great job. Kamala Harris
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Speaker 3: is getting to the root causes. Here's Democrat Senator Pete
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Speaker 3: Welch talking about Democrat policy on the southern border. Cut
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Speaker 3: number six.
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Speaker 13: You know, I think this blame game is just pointless.
56:56
Speaker 13: The fact is that we have a secure border. President
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Speaker 13: Trump was right. Democrats were wrong on that. Also, we
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Speaker 13: have we have broad by partisan support. We should deport
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Speaker 13: violent criminals.
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Speaker 3: That was not a mistake. You actually heard that. That
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Speaker 3: was a Democrat senator guy named Peter Welch admitting Democrats
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Speaker 3: were wrong. President Trump was right, Joe, can we hear
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Speaker 3: that one more time? Please cut six.
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Speaker 13: You know, I think this blame game is just pointless.
57:31
Speaker 13: The fact is that we have a secure border. President
57:34
Speaker 13: Trump was right. Democrats were wrong on that. Also, we
57:37
Speaker 13: have we have broad by partisan support. We should deport
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Speaker 13: violent criminals.
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Speaker 3: We have a secure border. Democrats were wrong. President Trump
57:50
Speaker 3: was right, we need to deport violent criminals. Yesterday I
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Speaker 3: had on Todd Bensman, who used to work LOOK at
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Speaker 3: the Center for Immigration Studies, was tapped by the Trump
58:05
Speaker 3: administration to come work with ICE work on issues of
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Speaker 3: the border, work with Tom Homan. There are few, if any,
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Speaker 3: who know more about what is happening at the border
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Speaker 3: than Todd Bensman and you heard him yesterday talk about
58:22
Speaker 3: how it is literally night and day, the difference between
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Speaker 3: what goes on at the border now and what was
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Speaker 3: happening during the Biden administration. We've known about it for
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Speaker 3: a long long time. We've talked about the truth of
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Speaker 3: the matter for a long long time, and now only now,
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Speaker 3: after all the evidence everything is perfectly clear. Is Peter
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Speaker 3: Welch one Democrat? And I guess Fetterman, if he was
58:52
Speaker 3: asked about the border would probably say the same thing.
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Speaker 3: But Joe, how rare is that to hear a Democrat
58:58
Speaker 3: say what this guy just said? I mean, it's he's
59:02
Speaker 3: a unic Joe said, he's a unicorn. So thank god
59:08
Speaker 3: we now have two Democrat senators who are able to
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Speaker 3: I was just looking at the camera, the OGO camera
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Speaker 3: that's on seventy five in northern Kentucky at the two
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Speaker 3: seventy five interchange. You're not seeing that back up there yet,
59:43
Speaker 3: so you may be heading through that area heading northbound
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Speaker 3: on seventy five in two seven and you know, near
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Speaker 3: two seventy five in northern Kentucky, and you might be saying, hey,
59:51
Speaker 3: I'm doing all right here. Don't be fooled. When you
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Speaker 3: get to Dixie Highway, you're going to be on the breaks.
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Speaker 3: And I'm also looking at the camera that is northbound
1:00:01
Speaker 3: seventy five at Ezer Charles and that traffic there. I
1:00:06
Speaker 3: just saw a tow truck go through there a little
1:00:09
Speaker 3: while ago. But the cars that are stuck there, the
1:00:13
Speaker 3: trucks that are stuck there, this camera updates every like
1:00:17
Speaker 3: every eight seconds. They have not moved. Let me see,
1:00:21
Speaker 3: I'm watching it right there, there's the update. No, the
1:00:23
Speaker 3: trucks are in the exact same part of the frame
1:00:28
Speaker 3: every time this thing updates, so that traffic is not
1:00:31
Speaker 3: moving northbound seventy five just north as it excuse me,
1:00:36
Speaker 3: just north of as Charles. So if you are going
1:00:40
Speaker 3: that way, especially through if you're already in Covington, if
1:00:44
Speaker 3: you're in Covington and you normally take northbound seventy five,
1:00:47
Speaker 3: get out of there. Don't even think about getting on
1:00:50
Speaker 3: northbound seventy five. If you're in northern Kentucky, you got
1:00:54
Speaker 3: to head over to four to seventy one. You got
1:00:56
Speaker 3: to get to two seventy five. You gotta go around
1:01:00
Speaker 3: the only way. And I gotta guess that all the bridges,
1:01:05
Speaker 3: the clayweighte Bailey, the robling people baling out going through
1:01:12
Speaker 3: Covington trying to get to Cincinnati, I gotta believe those
1:01:16
Speaker 3: bridges are backed up as well. So that is a
1:01:19
Speaker 3: major traffic headache for you this morning. The border is secure.
1:01:26
Speaker 3: You heard it from the Democrat senator just a little
1:01:29
Speaker 3: while ago. This is why we need the border to
1:01:33
Speaker 3: be secure. An illegal alien, released into the United States
1:01:38
Speaker 3: by the Biden administration and protected by the sanctuary state
1:01:43
Speaker 3: of California, is now accused of murdering a seventy one
1:01:46
Speaker 3: year old Army US Air Force veteran, Randy Whitten, in
1:01:51
Speaker 3: a seemingly random attack at the victims home in West Point, Utah.
1:01:56
Speaker 3: Immigrations and Customs Enforcement ICE agents loaded lodged a detainer
1:02:02
Speaker 3: against Alex Eduardo Chavez Markwin, an illegal alien from El
1:02:09
Speaker 3: Salvador who had been released into the United States in
1:02:14
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one by the Biden administration after crossing the
1:02:19
Speaker 3: southern border in California. This illegal alien should never have
1:02:24
Speaker 3: been allowed on our streets. James Witten should be alive today.
1:02:28
Speaker 3: The Department of Homeland Security Lauren Biss said, ICE is
1:02:32
Speaker 3: now asking officials in Utah to commit to not releasing
1:02:38
Speaker 3: this criminal from jail. Why should this be so difficult?
1:02:43
Speaker 3: How many times have we heard of these illegal aliens.
1:02:49
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what country they come from. They commit
1:02:53
Speaker 3: heinous crimes, murder, rape, drug trafficking, kidnapping, you name it,
1:03:00
Speaker 3: driving a big rig without a license. And ICE has
1:03:07
Speaker 3: to go the extra mile to ask these local authorities,
1:03:13
Speaker 3: please do not release this dangerous individual. Make our job
1:03:20
Speaker 3: a little bit easier. We're coming to apprehend this person.
1:03:23
Speaker 3: We don't want to have to chase them down on
1:03:25
Speaker 3: the street, hunt them down, make things a lot more
1:03:30
Speaker 3: dangerous for other people. Now we hear all these, all
1:03:34
Speaker 3: these and what do they call the Democrats DSA, Democrats
1:03:39
Speaker 3: Socialists of America All we've got to abolish ICE. They're
1:03:42
Speaker 3: doing all these horrible things. People are getting shot and killed. Well, yeah,
1:03:47
Speaker 3: you've got dangerous, dangerous people like this who seek to
1:03:53
Speaker 3: run away from ICE. Run them over with the cars,
1:03:58
Speaker 3: maybe take a shot at them if they have a gun.
1:04:03
Speaker 3: And then we've got numb nuts like these people we
1:04:05
Speaker 3: saw in Minneapolis, who want to stand in their way
1:04:09
Speaker 3: and protect these kind of individuals. According to West Point Police,
1:04:14
Speaker 3: on May thirtieth, Randy Whitten was hanging decorations on the
1:04:18
Speaker 3: porch of his home with his back to the street
1:04:23
Speaker 3: when this illegal dude pulled up in a vehicle, jumped
1:04:26
Speaker 3: out and fired ten rounds at the veteran. He was
1:04:30
Speaker 3: killed as a result of the gunshots, while the Chavez
1:04:35
Speaker 3: Mark Quinn, hopped back into his vehicle and fled to
1:04:37
Speaker 3: Las Vegas, Nevada, where he was arrested for murder June sixteenth.
1:04:43
Speaker 3: Police say Witten's doorbell camera captured the murder. Police are
1:04:47
Speaker 3: not sure what motivated the murder and whether Witton was
1:04:49
Speaker 3: the target. He leaves behind his wife and children. He
1:04:54
Speaker 3: was a twenty year veteran of the Air Force, serving
1:04:56
Speaker 3: in Vietnam, Desert Storm, and Grenada. All kinds of military decorations.
1:05:04
Speaker 3: So the idea that this guy who has meritorious service medals,
1:05:10
Speaker 3: Commendation Medals, Air Force Outstanding Unit Award, Good Conduct Medal
1:05:17
Speaker 3: with five Devices, National Defense Service Medal, NCO Professional Military Education,
1:05:23
Speaker 3: Graduate Marksmanship, riven this guy gets shot in the back
1:05:29
Speaker 3: in front of his own home by an illegal alien,
1:05:34
Speaker 3: and the idea, the notion that and look this is
1:05:38
Speaker 3: it doesn't get any more heinous than this, but the
1:05:42
Speaker 3: idea that we have people who constantly want to stand
1:05:45
Speaker 3: up and try to protect individuals like this. This guy
1:05:51
Speaker 3: survived Vietnam, survived Grenada, survived desert storm, and he shot
1:06:00
Speaker 3: in the back in front of his own home by
1:06:03
Speaker 3: a dude who should never have been in the country,
1:06:06
Speaker 3: let in by the Biden administration. And we're going to
1:06:11
Speaker 3: have people constantly complain about the Trump administration and their
1:06:18
Speaker 3: mean to illegal aliens. No, these are the kind of
1:06:22
Speaker 3: people that we are seeking to get out, and we
1:06:27
Speaker 3: have to have federal agents beg local authorities not to
1:06:33
Speaker 3: let them out, not to put them back on the street.
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Speaker 3: I told you not to go four to seventy one, Joe.
1:06:51
Speaker 3: Did I say that? Did I say, if you're going
1:06:52
Speaker 3: to bail out, don't go to four seventy one, especially
1:06:55
Speaker 3: if you're on two seventy five in northern Kentucky coming
1:06:58
Speaker 3: that way northbound on seventy five. You got to go
1:07:00
Speaker 3: around the west side. I know it's out of your way,
1:07:04
Speaker 3: but trust me, you'll be glad you did. You do
1:07:06
Speaker 3: not want to get stuck in this. That traffic is
1:07:09
Speaker 3: not moving at all on seventy five. And in Cincinnati
1:07:17
Speaker 3: on right right there by Ezra Charles and I just
1:07:22
Speaker 3: dialed up this camera again. Let me see this. Yeah,
1:07:26
Speaker 3: it has I mean it literally has not moved at
1:07:29
Speaker 3: all in the past hour. So do not come northbound
1:07:34
Speaker 3: seventy five through northern Kentucky. You're not gonna You're not
1:07:37
Speaker 3: gonna get to where you want to go. Just trying
1:07:39
Speaker 3: to help you out there, Joe, we have Jack Atherton
1:07:41
Speaker 3: coming up today, don't we Is that seven seven o'clock
1:07:45
Speaker 3: in ten and ten? Do we know what Jack wants
1:07:47
Speaker 3: to talk about today on the Big Picture with Jack Atherton?
1:07:50
Speaker 3: Do we know what a subject DuJour is? You know?
1:07:53
Speaker 3: Send it to me. It's a it's a secret I
1:07:57
Speaker 3: literally have. Normally Joe tells me you know what Jack
1:08:01
Speaker 3: wants to touch on, but I have no idea. Let's see,
1:08:07
Speaker 3: let's see. Yeah, the left is very upset about this.
1:08:11
Speaker 3: The feds are going to cancel the citizenship of ten
1:08:16
Speaker 3: career criminal migrants. Federal officials have filed cases to revoke
1:08:21
Speaker 3: the citizenship of ten career criminals who hid their crimes
1:08:25
Speaker 3: during the naturalization process. The Department of Homeland Security and
1:08:30
Speaker 3: the DOJ announced the move to revoke the citizenship of
1:08:33
Speaker 3: ten migrants who have been convicted of serious crimes despite
1:08:37
Speaker 3: becoming naturalized US citizens. The individuals were accused of crimes
1:08:42
Speaker 3: including sexual abuse of a child, healthcare wire fraud, immigration fraud,
1:08:48
Speaker 3: and conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine. The
1:08:55
Speaker 3: Trump administration has invoked the Immigration and Nationality the Act,
1:09:00
Speaker 3: which allows the federal government to revoke naturalization for undesirables
1:09:06
Speaker 3: who gained citizenship. Citizenship may be revoked and certificate citizenship
1:09:13
Speaker 3: may be revoked and certificate of naturalization canceled if the
1:09:18
Speaker 3: naturalization was illegally procured or produced by concealment of material
1:09:24
Speaker 3: fact or by wilful misrepresentation, DHS said Monday. When you
1:09:31
Speaker 3: commit fraud during the naturalization process, you forfeit the right
1:09:35
Speaker 3: to keep your US citizenship, said Mark Waynemullen. These criminal
1:09:40
Speaker 3: aliens comprised of drug traffickers and pedophiles and frosteds lost
1:09:44
Speaker 3: their right and exploited our immigration system. Imagine that people
1:09:49
Speaker 3: exploiting our immigration system. And all we hear are about
1:09:56
Speaker 3: how these folks only want to come to the United
1:09:58
Speaker 3: States get a better life. Here's some people who at
1:10:05
Speaker 3: least made the or have the veneer of making the
1:10:10
Speaker 3: attempt to do it legally. And of course they they're
1:10:14
Speaker 3: they're criminals. They're criminals. Comebacks. These ten criminal aliens include
1:10:21
Speaker 3: child sex abusers, a nearly nine hundred thousand dollars Medicare fraudster,
1:10:28
Speaker 3: cocaine trafficker. I heard a newscast today talking about how
1:10:33
Speaker 3: terrible it was that the that the Trump administration was
1:10:38
Speaker 3: withholding Medicare and medicaid payments from from Minnesota in California.
1:10:45
Speaker 3: Oh and now all this is going to be a
1:10:48
Speaker 3: terrible effect on uh, these these working class families. Well,
1:10:52
Speaker 3: you know what, stop it with the fraud. Stop ripping
1:10:57
Speaker 3: off the government Minnesota, California, get it under control, get
1:11:05
Speaker 3: things squared away, and guess what the payments will come back.
1:11:09
Speaker 3: But we're tired of the hundreds of millions and the
1:11:11
Speaker 3: billions of dollars going to frosters and everywhere you turn,
1:11:16
Speaker 3: every where. Every time I look at this stuff every
1:11:20
Speaker 3: single day, it is absolutely amazing how much fraud, how
1:11:26
Speaker 3: much the government gets ripped off every single day, and
1:11:32
Speaker 3: a lot of it comes from illegals in this country
1:11:35
Speaker 3: in every line of work, and this administration is at
1:11:40
Speaker 3: least trying to do something about it. And I'm so
1:11:43
Speaker 3: sick and tired of hearing the whining and complaining and
1:11:46
Speaker 3: the handwringing about all the poor people who are going
1:11:49
Speaker 3: to be affected by this. Yeah, you know what they're
1:11:52
Speaker 3: affected by. They're affected by people who are ripping them off.
1:11:55
Speaker 3: And these ngngos that thankfully are hopefully by and large,
1:12:00
Speaker 3: are being put out of business because that money is stopped.
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Speaker 3: We're going to stop the flow of that money. Six
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Speaker 3: Jack Atherton for the Big Picture with Jack Atherton and
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Speaker 3: Jack Azton. Great to have you again. You're on fifty
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Speaker 3: five KRC. How you doing good.
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Speaker 12: We had a captive audience for a while on seventy
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Speaker 12: five North. But I guess people can get to work
1:12:32
Speaker 12: or maybe on vacation. Maybe some of them are going up,
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Speaker 12: you know, toward Michigan or other parts North's mochestrated than.
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Speaker 3: Being stuck in traffic like that, that is a fact.
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Speaker 3: That's the worst. Always great you Jack, We're right.
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Speaker 12: In the middle of summer the kids. Summer is about
1:12:50
Speaker 12: getting out of the schoolroom. Yay, so you can swim,
1:12:55
Speaker 12: play baseball, soccer, especially after this World Cup when America
1:12:59
Speaker 12: is so press the world, partly with our play in
1:13:02
Speaker 12: the earlier rounds, especially our hospitality and standard of living.
1:13:07
Speaker 12: Though it must have been tough to en for President
1:13:09
Speaker 12: Trump to award the Cup to Spain, our worst ally
1:13:14
Speaker 12: in Europe, and that's saying something. I think. One reason
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Speaker 12: the President for three months has been shrugging off the
1:13:21
Speaker 12: reopening of the Straight of Real Horn Moves is that
1:13:24
Speaker 12: he received no help from Europe, which needs that oil
1:13:29
Speaker 12: while we don't thanks to Trump energy independence. Anyway, Summer
1:13:34
Speaker 12: is about playing games, but it's not about putting down books.
1:13:39
Speaker 12: Most every library has a fun summer reading program for children.
1:13:44
Speaker 12: Competition is a chance to meet other kids who like
1:13:47
Speaker 12: to read, and once you've found a good book, is
1:13:50
Speaker 12: nothing more fun than diving into it at the pool
1:13:53
Speaker 12: or the beach. Who are just under a tree, Dan,
1:13:56
Speaker 12: do you remember any favorite books you read.
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Speaker 3: One summer summer, a couple of summers ago, I picked
1:14:02
Speaker 3: up the Trump book that Bill O'Reilly wrote, and I
1:14:07
Speaker 3: remember I actually posted it on my social media. I
1:14:10
Speaker 3: was on vacation and I said, I'm going to read
1:14:12
Speaker 3: this book by Bill O'Reilly, and it was a book
1:14:15
Speaker 3: about Trump, and I gave a little review of it.
1:14:17
Speaker 3: I thought I might make that a regular thing, but
1:14:19
Speaker 3: it didn't take. But in any case, that is the
1:14:21
Speaker 3: most recent example for me.
1:14:23
Speaker 12: Whether he's writing about Jesus or Lincoln or anything you
1:14:28
Speaker 12: can imagine, o'riley's books are always worth looking at.
1:14:30
Speaker 3: I agree.
1:14:32
Speaker 12: For me, A girlfriend and I, when I was fifteen,
1:14:37
Speaker 12: discovered Iron Rant and I think that explains pretty much everything.
1:14:41
Speaker 12: That girl, Darcy ultimately found somebody else to read with.
1:14:45
Speaker 12: But somehow, forty four years ago, I managed to marry
1:14:50
Speaker 12: another girl who's also a conservative and devours entire libraries.
1:14:55
Speaker 12: Books even more than making out can help you find
1:14:58
Speaker 12: a soulmate at the library, as long as you keep
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Speaker 12: your voice down. Now, Brian and I once discussed the
1:15:05
Speaker 12: most famous library in history, the ancient one in Alexandria, Egypt.
1:15:11
Speaker 12: Its mission was to own a copy of every book
1:15:14
Speaker 12: in the known world until that library was accidentally burned
1:15:18
Speaker 12: down by Julius Caesar's troops. Hundreds of years later, when
1:15:23
Speaker 12: the Roman Empire itself declined and fell into illiteracy, which
1:15:28
Speaker 12: is what we're facing today. Even with ivy League graduates,
1:15:32
Speaker 12: classical learning was preserved by monasteries with help from Islamic scholars.
1:15:38
Speaker 12: Books were so scarce then even during the Renaissance they
1:15:42
Speaker 12: had to be passed around and copied. This a wonderful book,
1:15:46
Speaker 12: a modern one called The Swerve, about the rediscovery of
1:15:49
Speaker 12: a Roman book by Lucretius. You might say, who's Lucretius?
1:15:53
Speaker 12: Who cares about that? Well, his ideas led to modern
1:15:56
Speaker 12: atomic theory, but even more earth shows how a love
1:16:01
Speaker 12: of books created the modern world. Somebody who loved books
1:16:06
Speaker 12: more than most anybody I can think of, because he
1:16:09
Speaker 12: had been deprived of a good education, was the old
1:16:12
Speaker 12: time industrialist, pardon my language, Andrew Carnegie. So Carnegie built libraries,
1:16:20
Speaker 12: free public libraries, three thousand of them all across the
1:16:25
Speaker 12: English speaking world, including more than one hundred right here
1:16:28
Speaker 12: in Ohio. Folks, you and your family can find some
1:16:31
Speaker 12: of the most beautiful libraries anywhere in Walnut Hills, Avondale,
1:16:36
Speaker 12: across the river in Covington, the one I go to
1:16:39
Speaker 12: all the time on Main Street in Lebanon. They're beautiful
1:16:43
Speaker 12: because Carnegie wanted to inspire reverence for the wit and wisdom,
1:16:48
Speaker 12: the sheer joy of learning to love books. Andrew Carnegie
1:16:54
Speaker 12: was a privileged white European male. No, actually he was
1:16:59
Speaker 12: one of them those things. He was white, I have
1:17:01
Speaker 12: to admit. But he was born dirt poor in Scotland
1:17:05
Speaker 12: to a family of weavers, not not weavers in a factory,
1:17:09
Speaker 12: weavers at home. After immigrating to Pennsylvania before the Civil War,
1:17:14
Speaker 12: the twelve year old worked his way up from being
1:17:17
Speaker 12: a boiler room attendant and telegraph operator to creating, among
1:17:22
Speaker 12: many other businesses, a little one. You may have heard
1:17:25
Speaker 12: of us Steel in Pittsburgh. Nobody would have been more
1:17:30
Speaker 12: appalled than Andrew Carnegie to see how modern day democrats
1:17:34
Speaker 12: and establishment Republicans shipped so much steel manufacturing and American
1:17:40
Speaker 12: jobs overseas in exchange for cheap labor. Thanks to Donald Trump,
1:17:46
Speaker 12: those jobs are coming back. Carnegie was a hard task master,
1:17:51
Speaker 12: and critics say he was an unscrupulous businessman, but in retirement,
1:17:55
Speaker 12: the philanthropists donated the equivalent in today's currency of seven
1:18:01
Speaker 12: billion dollars. Not just for libraries. Think of Carnegie Mellon University.
1:18:06
Speaker 12: It originally was called Carnegie Technical School. Mike grow would
1:18:11
Speaker 12: love that, as we all should. I love classical music,
1:18:14
Speaker 12: so I'm also grateful that Andrew built what came to
1:18:17
Speaker 12: be called Carnegie Hall in New York. But his most
1:18:21
Speaker 12: lasting contribution dan continues to be all those gorgeous, well
1:18:26
Speaker 12: stocked public libraries. So while New York's mayor Mamdanie boasts
1:18:32
Speaker 12: about the socialist grocery stores he plans to build with
1:18:36
Speaker 12: tax dollars so they can put private groceries big and
1:18:39
Speaker 12: small at a business, how about taking your kids or
1:18:42
Speaker 12: grandkids to a local Carnegie library where they can learn
1:18:46
Speaker 12: the history of socialism and how it has never worked.
1:18:50
Speaker 12: As a matter of fact, maybe next week our topic
1:18:53
Speaker 12: will be a series of books my dad helped me
1:18:55
Speaker 12: discover as a kid at the library, The Lanny Budd
1:18:59
Speaker 12: novel by Upton Sinclair. Sinclair isn't much known anymore, but
1:19:04
Speaker 12: he was America's most famous socialist in the nineteen thirties.
1:19:09
Speaker 12: But guess want by the nineteen fifties when he completed
1:19:12
Speaker 12: the series, Upton Sinclair had become a bigger and better
1:19:17
Speaker 12: anti communist than Senator Joel McCarthy. Mean times, Anne, I'm
1:19:22
Speaker 12: sure you want to put it in a good word
1:19:23
Speaker 12: for public libraries.
1:19:25
Speaker 3: Well, Jack, I'm listening to you talk and as always,
1:19:28
Speaker 3: thought provoking as always, and I was thinking about how
1:19:32
Speaker 3: books and reading, I think, really is part of human nature.
1:19:37
Speaker 3: And what made me think about that is we have
1:19:40
Speaker 3: a granddaughter now who is just turned one year old
1:19:44
Speaker 3: and socialation, and so when she comes to visit, we've
1:19:49
Speaker 3: got a number of toys around the house. We also
1:19:51
Speaker 3: have a number of children's books. And I was watching
1:19:54
Speaker 3: her the other day and she was there with my daughter,
1:19:57
Speaker 3: and my daughter, thank god, is a voracious reader, and
1:20:01
Speaker 3: she always has been since she was little. And so
1:20:04
Speaker 3: I was watching her play with one of the toys,
1:20:07
Speaker 3: and you know, you press the buttons and the light
1:20:09
Speaker 3: slight up and then it makes little music and all that.
1:20:11
Speaker 3: And then my daughter turned to so she said, let's
1:20:13
Speaker 3: take a look at this book. And so the toy
1:20:16
Speaker 3: she was able to throw that toy down and disengage
1:20:20
Speaker 3: with that. And during the time that she was looking
1:20:24
Speaker 3: at this book, you could just see her eyes looking
1:20:28
Speaker 3: at this book, and how engaged she was with this
1:20:30
Speaker 3: book from the very first page to the very last.
1:20:34
Speaker 3: And she was not rushed. She was and of course
1:20:37
Speaker 3: her mommy was reading the writing there, but she was
1:20:41
Speaker 3: looking at the books. She was looking at the pictures,
1:20:43
Speaker 3: and then the page would turn. You could see her
1:20:45
Speaker 3: head follow the page, and then she was taking in
1:20:48
Speaker 3: what was next. And I really, and it really dawned
1:20:50
Speaker 3: on me at that time that it really is human nature,
1:20:55
Speaker 3: I think, for individuals to be engaged in wanting to read,
1:20:59
Speaker 3: in wanting to learn, in looking at what is on
1:21:02
Speaker 3: the page. I was talking yesterday about the space program
1:21:06
Speaker 3: because I forgot to mention on July twentieth, that was
1:21:10
Speaker 3: the anniversary of Neil Armstrong setting foot on the Moon.
1:21:13
Speaker 3: And I talked about how when I was a kid,
1:21:15
Speaker 3: my parents always had Life magazine around the house, and
1:21:18
Speaker 3: Life magazine did extensive coverage of the space program. And
1:21:22
Speaker 3: I remember looking at those magazines and looking at the picture,
1:21:27
Speaker 3: the very first picture of the first spacewalk, and it
1:21:31
Speaker 3: was ed white out there in his spacesuit, floating outside
1:21:35
Speaker 3: the Gemini capsule, and I was thinking to myself, and
1:21:39
Speaker 3: I remember I still remember today, just the wonderment of
1:21:42
Speaker 3: looking at and examining that picture for hours on end
1:21:46
Speaker 3: and thinking about how that made. That drove my thirst
1:21:49
Speaker 3: to know more about the space program. So, you know,
1:21:53
Speaker 3: the internet, the phone device is all that stuff is great,
1:21:56
Speaker 3: but I don't think there's anything that replaces books and
1:21:59
Speaker 3: replaces actual reading and the printed word on the page.
1:22:03
Speaker 12: I think ever since humans learned to talk, we have
1:22:07
Speaker 12: been hardwired to be storytellers, even before you know, we
1:22:12
Speaker 12: look at the cave paintings they have in places like
1:22:14
Speaker 12: let's go the Odyssey, which everybody is talking about now.
1:22:18
Speaker 12: I had some reservations about the movie, not the casting,
1:22:20
Speaker 12: not that it's just kind of dark and gloomy, but anyway,
1:22:23
Speaker 12: read it. It's marvelous. Books. You know, unlike movies, books
1:22:28
Speaker 12: force you to tell and read stories at a human pace.
1:22:33
Speaker 12: You don't have all of that furious cross cutting and
1:22:37
Speaker 12: the kind of thing that drives people who have not
1:22:39
Speaker 12: learned to read yet, especially people in third world country,
1:22:41
Speaker 12: is crazy because you know, it just bombards your senses,
1:22:46
Speaker 12: and that's not really the way we're supposed to think
1:22:48
Speaker 12: or even just enjoy stories. As for libraries, if we
1:22:52
Speaker 12: needed government today to build three thousand libraries like Carnegie did,
1:22:58
Speaker 12: we'd be lucky to get one, and the government contract
1:23:01
Speaker 12: for that one library would go to some politicians donor
1:23:05
Speaker 12: and cost ten times more than it should and be
1:23:08
Speaker 12: filled with nothing but woke propaganda and politicians' autobiographies because nobody.
1:23:13
Speaker 3: Else buys them.
1:23:14
Speaker 12: But Dan, a lot of listeners may be thinking, is
1:23:17
Speaker 12: you just said, why do we need libraries anymore? More?
1:23:19
Speaker 12: And more kids? Anybody, especially in our inner cities, people
1:23:24
Speaker 12: who can't read much less rite. Everything that they might
1:23:27
Speaker 12: want to read is right there on an iPhone or
1:23:30
Speaker 12: an iPad. Look, I love those electronic devices, and I
1:23:34
Speaker 12: do use them to read every book you can imagine
1:23:38
Speaker 12: from projects Gutenberg's collection of classics. They're all there to kindle,
1:23:43
Speaker 12: not to mention Audible. Even one of my books is
1:23:46
Speaker 12: on audible. They'll take anybody. But I hope electronics never
1:23:49
Speaker 12: replace the fund of browsing bookshelves and stumbling on books
1:23:54
Speaker 12: you might never have thought to punch up on the keypad.
1:23:56
Speaker 3: No, you're absolutely right about that. And some of the
1:23:59
Speaker 3: most emerald books that I've ever read have come from
1:24:02
Speaker 3: the library, And I thought, you know, this is this
1:24:05
Speaker 3: is an interesting title. I'm going to pick this up
1:24:07
Speaker 3: a sight unseen, not really knowing what it's about. I'm
1:24:09
Speaker 3: going to take it home and read it. And and
1:24:11
Speaker 3: there have been many occasions where I've said to myself
1:24:15
Speaker 3: when I was done, man, am I really glad that
1:24:18
Speaker 3: that I that I read this book. I can tell
1:24:20
Speaker 3: you a story about one time George Rivashal, doctor George Vashal,
1:24:24
Speaker 3: who at one time was named a great Living Cincinnati
1:24:27
Speaker 3: and he is the guy who invented any histamies and uh,
1:24:31
Speaker 3: and he used to live in Indian Hill. He moved
1:24:33
Speaker 3: to a condominium in northern Kentucky, and one of the
1:24:38
Speaker 3: place I was working at the time. Uh. Somehow we
1:24:41
Speaker 3: wound up with the job of disassembling the library in
1:24:45
Speaker 3: his home and moving that library and reassembling it, all
1:24:49
Speaker 3: the shelves and all the books and everything else to
1:24:52
Speaker 3: his new home in in Newport at a at a
1:24:55
Speaker 3: high rise, very luxurious, nice condo there. And I remember
1:25:00
Speaker 3: being in his home in Indian Hill, and we're supposed
1:25:03
Speaker 3: to be working taking this library apart, and I remember
1:25:06
Speaker 3: just lingering on every single title, a thinking to myself, man, man,
1:25:12
Speaker 3: look look at this and his collection of books was
1:25:16
Speaker 3: was amazing and that brought just to focus of many memories.
1:25:21
Speaker 3: And his wife came in and this was a project
1:25:25
Speaker 3: that took multiple days. And I was in there one
1:25:28
Speaker 3: day looking at all the titles and she just when
1:25:30
Speaker 3: we sat there and talked and she said, it's amazing,
1:25:34
Speaker 3: isn't it? And I said yeah. She said, he's read
1:25:36
Speaker 3: every one of these books and and and it was.
1:25:39
Speaker 3: It was just amazing to me that one person had
1:25:42
Speaker 3: the capacity to do that. But no, when when you
1:25:46
Speaker 3: talk about books, let me ask you this, Jack, if
1:25:49
Speaker 3: if they were ever to make a movie of one
1:25:52
Speaker 3: of the Jack Atherton novels, would people say when people
1:25:55
Speaker 3: say the book was way better than the.
1:25:56
Speaker 12: Movie, the movie would have to be better than the book,
1:26:01
Speaker 12: and whoever would make that movie would have his head
1:26:03
Speaker 12: examined by some other doctor.
1:26:06
Speaker 3: Jack. Well, Jack, if you want to riby schell, if
1:26:09
Speaker 3: you want to continue for another segment, let me plet
1:26:11
Speaker 3: me put you on hold real quick. We'll get to
1:26:12
Speaker 3: a quick break. Because Joe was getting in my ear
1:26:15
Speaker 3: telling me to take a break. It is seven twenty
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Speaker 3: at fifty five KRC the talk stations the.
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Speaker 2: Chimney Carecter.
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Speaker 3: Seven two on this Wednesday, morning. Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas,
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Speaker 3: continuing our conversation with Jack Atherton in the Big Picture,
1:26:31
Speaker 3: talking about Carnegie libraries, libraries, books and all that stuff,
1:26:35
Speaker 3: and Jack, I guess I'm I'm lucky enough that I'm
1:26:37
Speaker 3: of an age now to where I can remember things
1:26:40
Speaker 3: before we had computers in every home, before we had
1:26:43
Speaker 3: devices that we walk around with, computers and telephones in
1:26:47
Speaker 3: our pockets and all those sorts of things. And so
1:26:50
Speaker 3: if you wanted to explore the world and you didn't
1:26:54
Speaker 3: have the budget to travel the world, you did that
1:26:57
Speaker 3: through reading. You did that through books, You did that
1:26:59
Speaker 3: through going to the library. And it's great to sit
1:27:03
Speaker 3: here and reminisce about those days. But I really think
1:27:07
Speaker 3: there's an important part of our humanity that gets missed
1:27:11
Speaker 3: out on because that we have entire generations now that
1:27:17
Speaker 3: can easily bypass that, and the importance of it, I
1:27:21
Speaker 3: don't think can be understated.
1:27:24
Speaker 12: It's taking a toll on our vocabulary as well. I've
1:27:28
Speaker 12: been doing some research on a topic I think I'll
1:27:31
Speaker 12: be talking about with Brian in the next few weeks. Profanity.
1:27:35
Speaker 12: Profanity has replaced the beautiful words that people used to
1:27:39
Speaker 12: be able to write not that every book was beautiful,
1:27:41
Speaker 12: and it was a good thing when books became more
1:27:43
Speaker 12: realistic than they had been for a while. You know,
1:27:46
Speaker 12: certain French writers started a realistic school where they started
1:27:50
Speaker 12: to look at social problems and poor people who have
1:27:54
Speaker 12: been overlooked by authors. But now we really are in
1:28:00
Speaker 12: the gutter. And contrary to what Oscar Wilde said, we're
1:28:03
Speaker 12: not the gutter looking up at the stars. We're just
1:28:05
Speaker 12: in the gutter.
1:28:06
Speaker 3: Well, and Jack, you're jogging my thought process on this,
1:28:10
Speaker 3: and I was thinking. Just yesterday there was a hearing
1:28:14
Speaker 3: on Capitol Hill regarding the Smithsonian Institution, and the Trump
1:28:19
Speaker 3: administration did a report on what they call the wokeification
1:28:24
Speaker 3: of the Smithsonian Institution and really the cheapening of the
1:28:30
Speaker 3: displays and the exhibits that they had there at the
1:28:34
Speaker 3: Smithsonian Institution. And the director was there, and the director
1:28:38
Speaker 3: was asked a lot of questions about some of the
1:28:41
Speaker 3: very questionable stuff that has been on display in recent
1:28:45
Speaker 3: times in the Smithsonian Institution. And this is an institution,
1:28:49
Speaker 3: to my way of thinking, that should be dedicated to history,
1:28:52
Speaker 3: should be dedicated to telling the truth about the history
1:28:54
Speaker 3: of America. And instead, you know, they've got things in
1:28:59
Speaker 3: children areas that feature you know, sa Sato, masochistic harnesses,
1:29:06
Speaker 3: chest binders for non binary kids, a page from a
1:29:11
Speaker 3: diary of a six year old girl who prayed that
1:29:13
Speaker 3: her penis would grow. Things like that. So you talk
1:29:16
Speaker 3: about the cheapening of institutions, God forbid if we let
1:29:22
Speaker 3: the Smithsonian of all places, fall into a state of
1:29:26
Speaker 3: disrepair that it has, And of course those on the
1:29:29
Speaker 3: other side of the argument will come out and say
1:29:32
Speaker 3: that we are wrong and that somehow we're trying to
1:29:36
Speaker 3: suppress things. If we frown on this sort of thing
1:29:41
Speaker 3: being presented as meaningful literature and meaningful ideas to young kids.
1:29:49
Speaker 12: There's no such thing as history. As much as I
1:29:51
Speaker 12: love it, history is at construct a way of looking
1:29:55
Speaker 12: at the past and trying to make sense of it,
1:29:58
Speaker 12: and history, as they've always said, written by the victors.
1:30:02
Speaker 12: So even though Republicans and conservatives like us have have
1:30:06
Speaker 12: won our share of elections, we haven't always dug deep
1:30:09
Speaker 12: enough to see what's going on in our institutions, whether
1:30:12
Speaker 12: it's a place like the Smithsonian Institution or it's our universities.
1:30:18
Speaker 12: Even in science, you know, look at what happened with
1:30:21
Speaker 12: COVID that was taken over by people with an agenda.
1:30:24
Speaker 12: What we have to do is win elections. I heard
1:30:26
Speaker 12: you earlier in the show talk about how people who
1:30:29
Speaker 12: have problems with certain Republican candidates at this point when
1:30:33
Speaker 12: they've already been chosen in the primaries and too few
1:30:37
Speaker 12: people participated in the primaries. We have what we have,
1:30:41
Speaker 12: and you have to look at the alternative. We have
1:30:43
Speaker 12: to make sure that we're the victims, not so that
1:30:45
Speaker 12: we can impose our form of propaganda, but so that
1:30:48
Speaker 12: we can try to be a little bit more even handed.
1:30:51
Speaker 3: All right, well, Jack, again, always a great time to
1:30:55
Speaker 3: hang out with you and discuss things, and always appreciate
1:30:58
Speaker 3: the topics that you bring to bear. But we're going
1:31:00
Speaker 3: to have to leave it there for now. Jack Atherton,
1:31:03
Speaker 3: as always appreciate your time here today and have yourself
1:31:06
Speaker 3: a great week, and I know everyone will be looking
1:31:08
Speaker 3: forward to next Wednesday with the Big Picture with Jack Afton.
1:31:13
Speaker 12: And can I say I am hosten. When we're long gone,
1:31:16
Speaker 12: your one year old granddaughter will remember that Grandpa gave
1:31:19
Speaker 12: her books.
1:31:21
Speaker 3: Jack, Thank you very much. Seven twenty seven at fifty
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Speaker 3: five all right at fifty five KRCD Talk Station, just
1:31:33
Speaker 3: to follow up on what I was talking about with
1:31:35
Speaker 3: Jack that House Oversight Subcommittee. I had a hearing yesterday
1:31:39
Speaker 3: on delivering on government efficiency, so that was a Doge
1:31:44
Speaker 3: related hearing, and they talk about rewriting American history, examining
1:31:50
Speaker 3: the Smithsonian efforts to reshape the past, which followed a
1:31:53
Speaker 3: detailed one hundred and sixty two page report issued by
1:31:57
Speaker 3: the White House Domestic Policy Council came out on July fourth,
1:32:02
Speaker 3: and they document the wocification of the Smithsonian National Museum
1:32:07
Speaker 3: of American History. And during the hearing, Brandon Gill talked
1:32:13
Speaker 3: with doctor Athena Hardig, who is the director of the museums,
1:32:18
Speaker 3: about something called a mass Action toolkit that had been
1:32:23
Speaker 3: promoted by the museum under her leadership, and he was
1:32:29
Speaker 3: asking her some important questions about white supremacy objectivity. Mickey
1:32:37
Speaker 3: Mouse at one point, I don't have that SoundBite, but
1:32:40
Speaker 3: Brandon Gill has been terrific on a lot of these things.
1:32:43
Speaker 3: And here he is talking with doctor Athena Hardig, the
1:32:49
Speaker 3: director of the Smithsonian. And you can judge this for yourself, Joe,
1:32:52
Speaker 3: Let's hear cut number one.
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Speaker 10: Please, would you say that the goal of history is
1:32:56
Speaker 10: to be objective.
1:32:59
Speaker 14: Thank you, sir for the question.
1:33:00
Speaker 8: You know, I think that there are many goals of history,
1:33:04
Speaker 8: and certainly as you collect, as we do, examine evidence creates.
1:33:08
Speaker 10: Scholar objectivity one of the goals of history.
1:33:11
Speaker 8: We strive to be objective and nonpartisan and not based
1:33:15
Speaker 8: on any ideas.
1:33:16
Speaker 10: It's one of the goals. Doesn't that seem a little
1:33:19
Speaker 10: bit concerning? It certainly does to me because as part
1:33:22
Speaker 10: of this white supremacy document that your organization has promoted,
1:33:28
Speaker 10: objectivity is a core and defining aspect of white supremacy culture.
1:33:33
Speaker 10: Do you think that it's the goal of the Smithsonian
1:33:36
Speaker 10: Institution to promote white supremacy culture?
1:33:40
Speaker 8: Sir?
1:33:40
Speaker 14: Do you mind sharing with me which document.
1:33:43
Speaker 10: White supremacy culture? Right here? This is part of the
1:33:48
Speaker 10: mass action toolkit that your organization is promoted for several
1:33:51
Speaker 10: years now under your leadership. Are you promoting a white
1:33:59
Speaker 10: supremacy culture? Sure, at the Smithsonian promoting a man this
1:34:07
Speaker 10: This is a difficult question.
1:34:10
Speaker 8: No, sure, I'm just thinking about the mass action toolkit.
1:34:12
Speaker 14: We didn't develop it.
1:34:14
Speaker 8: But back to your question, No, we're not promoting any ideology.
1:34:18
Speaker 10: Does it concern you that your goal is objectivity? One
1:34:22
Speaker 10: of your goals is objectivity, and your mass action toolkit
1:34:26
Speaker 10: references objectivity as a defining characteristic of white supremacy culture.
1:34:31
Speaker 10: It's not our toolkit, it is your toolkit. You you've
1:34:34
Speaker 10: been promoting it for quite some time.
1:34:37
Speaker 14: We did not come up with a toolkit, sir.
1:34:39
Speaker 10: But you've been promoting it.
1:34:41
Speaker 8: It is used as a reference, I believe probably in
1:34:44
Speaker 8: twenty nineteen, twenty twenty.
1:34:46
Speaker 10: Yes, under your leadership, it has been used as a reference.
1:34:50
Speaker 3: So there you go. He's got the documentation right there
1:34:54
Speaker 3: and something that the Smithsonian uses for ideals that they
1:34:59
Speaker 3: want to promote in the Smithsonian History Museum. And that
1:35:06
Speaker 3: was one of the things one of the major findings
1:35:09
Speaker 3: that the Domestic Policy Council found in their report. They
1:35:15
Speaker 3: found that the History Museum fails to substantly prevent American
1:35:21
Speaker 3: founders and the talk about the founding that they had
1:35:25
Speaker 3: quote problemized the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of America's founding.
1:35:31
Speaker 3: That they have removed the term American history from its
1:35:36
Speaker 3: mission statement to get out of the America First mentality,
1:35:42
Speaker 3: and they have abandoned historical scholarship for political activism, and
1:35:48
Speaker 3: that I think really is at the heart of what
1:35:51
Speaker 3: Brandon Gill was getting to there. He talked about political
1:35:55
Speaker 3: activism instead of just doing straight American history, good, the bad,
1:36:01
Speaker 3: the ugly, and and and the Smithsonian doesn't have to
1:36:07
Speaker 3: be a shrine to the greatness of America. So my
1:36:11
Speaker 3: way of thinking, the Smithsonian should be about America as
1:36:15
Speaker 3: it actually is, as it actually was. But that wasn't
1:36:19
Speaker 3: good enough any And you got to remember during the
1:36:21
Speaker 3: Biden administration, Kamala Harris and all that they called it,
1:36:24
Speaker 3: what do they call it? And all hands on deck,
1:36:27
Speaker 3: all hands on deck approach to dei uh, these ideas
1:36:34
Speaker 3: about multiculturalism and all the rest of it. Every institution
1:36:39
Speaker 3: that we have was infected by this policy. And of
1:36:43
Speaker 3: course one of the hallmarks of the Trump administration was
1:36:45
Speaker 3: to come in and try and undo that. And I've
1:36:49
Speaker 3: got a couple of more cuts on this, and we'll
1:36:51
Speaker 3: get to those in a moment, but first we'll get
1:36:53
Speaker 3: to a little break and check the weather and traffic
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Speaker 3: on fifty five k r C the talk stations.
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Speaker 2: Ever wonder why you're sneaking.
1:37:04
Speaker 3: Fifty five KARC DE talk station got some audio here
1:37:07
Speaker 3: from the hearing about the Smithsonian yesterday, and Brandon gill
1:37:12
Speaker 3: asking some questions also got one from a timbered check
1:37:15
Speaker 3: that you want to hear, and just let me read
1:37:17
Speaker 3: a short passage from the actual report that was done
1:37:21
Speaker 3: by the Trump administration. The serious concerns raised in this
1:37:24
Speaker 3: report are not about a few exhibits or a few
1:37:27
Speaker 3: controversial labels. They concerned whether America's premier history museum still
1:37:32
Speaker 3: presents America as a coherent nation and heritage worth teaching
1:37:37
Speaker 3: with gratitude and honesty. The museum can broaden the story
1:37:41
Speaker 3: without dissolving the story. It can and should acknowledge slavery, injustice,
1:37:47
Speaker 3: mistreatment of Native people, and other grave wrongs without encouraging
1:37:51
Speaker 3: citizens to view their country mainly through suspicion, resentment, and division.
1:37:57
Speaker 3: That is not what the National Museum of American History
1:38:00
Speaker 3: is doing as it stands today. It would benefit most Americans,
1:38:05
Speaker 3: especially parents bringing their children for a tour, if the
1:38:09
Speaker 3: Smithsonian's flagship history museum had a label at every entrance
1:38:13
Speaker 3: that reads warning, the exhibits in this museum were prepared
1:38:17
Speaker 3: by people who don't want you to love your country.
1:38:20
Speaker 3: The findings of this report matter beyond the museum world.
1:38:24
Speaker 3: Not all Americans follow academic theories or curatorial fashions. But
1:38:28
Speaker 3: they do understand when a revered public institution has traded
1:38:33
Speaker 3: settled truths and basic history for political activism and division.
1:38:38
Speaker 3: They do notice when heroes, principles, and even and events
1:38:42
Speaker 3: that form the country are pushed to the margins. They
1:38:47
Speaker 3: notice when their children are introduced to inappropriate sexual and
1:38:51
Speaker 3: ideological content under the guise of civic education. And they
1:38:56
Speaker 3: object when their children and grandchildren are being indoctrinated to
1:39:02
Speaker 3: regard their country primarily as a source of oppression and
1:39:07
Speaker 3: unresolved grievance. And again, that is really the heart of
1:39:12
Speaker 3: the matter of what Brandon gil was getting to. And
1:39:16
Speaker 3: he had more questions for doctor Hardig. Joe. Let's your
1:39:20
Speaker 3: cut number two?
1:39:21
Speaker 1: Please?
1:39:22
Speaker 10: Is it important to be polite?
1:39:25
Speaker 14: Excuse me, sir?
1:39:26
Speaker 10: Is it important to be polite?
1:39:28
Speaker 14: Yes, sir.
1:39:30
Speaker 10: It's also interesting because the same mass action toolkit that
1:39:33
Speaker 10: your organization has been promoting references politeness as a defining
1:39:39
Speaker 10: characteristic of white supremacy culture. Man, are you a white supremacist? No, sir,
1:39:46
Speaker 10: you're not. Can you help me square why your organization
1:39:51
Speaker 10: says that being polite is part of being a white supremacist.
1:39:56
Speaker 8: I'm not exactly familiar with that passage of the mass
1:40:00
Speaker 8: Action Toolkit, which.
1:40:01
Speaker 10: Is not I can show you that. I don't, I said,
1:40:06
Speaker 10: I just write you the passage from it.
1:40:09
Speaker 3: So there's the director of the Smithsonian trying to distance
1:40:13
Speaker 3: herself from clearly a document that they have been using
1:40:18
Speaker 3: for years. Then Tim Burchet got even a little more
1:40:22
Speaker 3: explicit with some of the displays that are there for
1:40:25
Speaker 3: kids to look out. Joe, let's your cut. Number three.
1:40:28
Speaker 15: Gender and sexuality are highlighted by your museum. I'm the
1:40:32
Speaker 15: poster behind me shows an exhibit called Entertainment Nation on display.
1:40:38
Speaker 15: Now do you think these exhibits behind me are appropriate
1:40:40
Speaker 15: for children?
1:40:47
Speaker 8: So I recognize some of the the images from Entertainment
1:40:53
Speaker 8: Nation and from I think some other sources. But let me,
1:40:59
Speaker 8: I think, tell you what I think is most important.
1:41:01
Speaker 15: Ma'am, ma'am. I mean, you have pictures of bondage, you
1:41:05
Speaker 15: have some overtly sexual things up there, you have transgendered folks.
1:41:13
Speaker 15: Assume that's what they are. And so I don't care
1:41:18
Speaker 15: who it is. I don't care who it is. It's
1:41:21
Speaker 15: still not a fan. I can tell you that. But
1:41:25
Speaker 15: in another exhibit, a six year old girl ask why
1:41:28
Speaker 15: she doesn't have male genitalia. Do you really think that
1:41:32
Speaker 15: content is appropriate for children? I mean, do you think
1:41:36
Speaker 15: little girls have penises? I mean, let's get to the
1:41:38
Speaker 15: basics of this. Do you think that's appropriate?
1:41:43
Speaker 8: So, sir, I believe the exhibition and project you're referring
1:41:47
Speaker 8: to is Girlhood It's Complicated, which was a temporary exhibit
1:41:51
Speaker 8: in our museum that closed, I believe in twenty nine and.
1:41:54
Speaker 15: I didn't ask you that. I asked you, do you think.
1:41:56
Speaker 3: Is it appropriate?
1:41:57
Speaker 8: So in that exhibit, sir, with her mission of the author,
1:42:01
Speaker 8: we shared a thirteen year old's diary, which I believe
1:42:05
Speaker 8: is what you're discussing. And in that diary they wrote
1:42:08
Speaker 8: about sleepovers and Latin class and math exams.
1:42:12
Speaker 6: Ma'am.
1:42:12
Speaker 15: Do you think that's appropriate? I appreciate it. Limited on time, ma'am.
1:42:15
Speaker 15: Do you think that's appropriate? Do you think that is
1:42:17
Speaker 15: appropriate for a child to see?
1:42:19
Speaker 11: Yes?
1:42:20
Speaker 8: Or no?
1:42:20
Speaker 14: I understand your questions, sir, but.
1:42:22
Speaker 15: Now you don't. You're not answering. You're just running on, ma'am.
1:42:25
Speaker 15: And I appreciate your hospitality, but the reality is you
1:42:28
Speaker 15: are not answering the questions. You're funded by taxpayers and
1:42:31
Speaker 15: the taxpayers would like to know is that appropriate?
1:42:35
Speaker 8: So, sir, Girlhood It's complicated, was not designed for children.
1:42:39
Speaker 8: It had a label in the beginning of the exhibition
1:42:43
Speaker 8: that shared with parents about some of the topics that
1:42:47
Speaker 8: would be covered. And we do that with exhibitions that
1:42:50
Speaker 8: we think and of need that need that help. So
1:42:53
Speaker 8: parents then can come and all right, thank.
1:42:56
Speaker 12: You, mam.
1:42:56
Speaker 15: I understand you're not going to answer it. I'm going
1:42:58
Speaker 15: to run out of time.
1:42:59
Speaker 3: So you can hear. You can hear the elitism in
1:43:06
Speaker 3: her voice. You can hear the I don't know why
1:43:08
Speaker 3: they talk like this. Everything ends on an upnode fifty
1:43:13
Speaker 3: five KRC. That kind of stuff. She really has contempt
1:43:21
Speaker 3: for those who are asking serious questions. And look, he
1:43:25
Speaker 3: was simply pointing to a display that they had in
1:43:29
Speaker 3: a children's area, and he's asking is this kind of
1:43:32
Speaker 3: stuff appropriate? Is this the kind of idealism that we
1:43:36
Speaker 3: want taking over an institution like the Smithsonian? And again
1:43:46
Speaker 3: the report talks about the main thrust and the main
1:43:54
Speaker 3: objective of what should be the Smithsonian National History Museum.
1:44:02
Speaker 3: Those things have been pushed to the margin in favor
1:44:06
Speaker 3: of featuring garbage like this seven forty seven fifty five
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Speaker 3: KRCV talk station all the big moments of the sea
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Speaker 3: the talk station. Probably the most outrageous thing I came
1:44:24
Speaker 3: across while getting ready for the show today was this
1:44:28
Speaker 3: piece about an illegal alien who was convicted of murder
1:44:31
Speaker 3: decided to sue President Trump in twenty twenty four. Town
1:44:36
Speaker 3: Hall writes. In twenty twenty four, Ruby Garcia was driving
1:44:40
Speaker 3: with her boyfriend, twenty six year old Brandon ortiz Vita.
1:44:44
Speaker 3: The two were arguing about something, and during that argument,
1:44:47
Speaker 3: ortez Vta pulled out a gun and shot Garcia multiple times,
1:44:50
Speaker 3: including in the head. He then took Garcia's body out
1:44:54
Speaker 3: of the car and drove off, and her body was
1:44:57
Speaker 3: found along the side of a Grand Rapids, Michigan high Way.
1:45:01
Speaker 3: Ruby Garcia was just twenty five years old. This illegal alien,
1:45:07
Speaker 3: criminal scumbag leader later pleaded guilty to the murder and
1:45:12
Speaker 3: was sentenced to thirty nine years in a Michigan prison.
1:45:16
Speaker 3: Trump later used Garcia's murder as proof that America needs
1:45:21
Speaker 3: tougher immigration laws. Ortiz Vite, who's a Mexican national, had
1:45:26
Speaker 3: previously been deported but was let back into the country
1:45:29
Speaker 3: under Say It with Me. The Biden administration Trump also
1:45:34
Speaker 3: showed a picture of ortiz Vta while making his case
1:45:37
Speaker 3: for immigration enforcement. Now ortiz Vite is attempting to sue
1:45:41
Speaker 3: President Trump, demanding seventy five and a half million dollars.
1:45:46
Speaker 3: He also wants anapology and citizenship. He claims being mentioned
1:45:51
Speaker 3: during the twenty twenty four campaign shattered his dignity and
1:45:56
Speaker 3: brought shame to his family. So here's a guy who
1:46:01
Speaker 3: says He says, I was put into a category. Who
1:46:06
Speaker 3: I was as a person no longer mattered. What only
1:46:09
Speaker 3: mattered was my race, my case, and immigration status. Once again,
1:46:13
Speaker 3: it belittled me, shattered my dignity and what I was
1:46:19
Speaker 3: as a person. This is what he wrote in the
1:46:24
Speaker 3: body of his lawsuit. The shame it brought to my
1:46:28
Speaker 3: family name is a reality I have to live with now,
1:46:31
Speaker 3: He wrote, I took full responsibility for my actions, but
1:46:36
Speaker 3: for them to use my case for political gain on
1:46:39
Speaker 3: TV was unjust humiliating. What I thought it couldn't get worse.
1:46:44
Speaker 3: It did. I was center stage in front of a nation,
1:46:48
Speaker 3: public scrutiny at its finest. Then he talks about how
1:46:50
Speaker 3: he was I guess ostracized while he was in prison,
1:46:54
Speaker 3: and I guess that made him uncomfortable. The dude is
1:46:58
Speaker 3: a convicted killer. I mean, hopefully this lawsuit will go nowhere.
1:47:05
Speaker 3: I'm guessing it doesn't say anything in here about him
1:47:08
Speaker 3: having legal representation, but you know, somewhere there is some
1:47:13
Speaker 3: lawyer out there who will take this case up and
1:47:16
Speaker 3: seek to further this case in the courts. This thing
1:47:19
Speaker 3: needs to be thrown out. And I'm going to try
1:47:21
Speaker 3: and follow this the best I can, but this thing
1:47:25
Speaker 3: needs to be thrown out. The dude is a convicted,
1:47:29
Speaker 3: a self admitted cold blooded killer, and now he wants
1:47:34
Speaker 3: to sue Trump because Trump mentioned him during a campaign
1:47:37
Speaker 3: stop in Michigan in twenty twenty four talking about why
1:47:42
Speaker 3: we need tougher immigration laws. The dude was kicked out
1:47:45
Speaker 3: of the country once and then let back in, and
1:47:49
Speaker 3: that is not the kind of stuff that we need
1:47:52
Speaker 3: in this country. And it'll be interesting if it turns
1:47:59
Speaker 3: out there's some lawyer who takes this case up again.
1:48:01
Speaker 3: No mention of any legal representation in the piece that
1:48:04
Speaker 3: I'm reading, but we'll see what happens with that. Seven
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Speaker 3: five KRC the talk station America station, all right, fifty
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Speaker 3: five KRC, the talk station Dan Carrolyn for Brian Thomas
1:48:35
Speaker 3: Striker rolling out the Van Hale at the top of
1:48:37
Speaker 3: the hour, Gotta love it. Sencom says that on July twenty,
1:48:44
Speaker 3: first Central Command successfully completed the eleventh consecutive evening of
1:48:49
Speaker 3: strikes against Iran. The number of military targets were hit.
1:48:55
Speaker 3: My go to guy ever since this action against Iran
1:48:58
Speaker 3: began has been Andrew Herding, a national security analyst at
1:49:02
Speaker 3: the Heritage Foundation. And Andrew Harding, it's great to have
1:49:05
Speaker 3: you this morning on fifty five KRC. How are you, sir, Well, thanks.
1:49:09
Speaker 11: For having me back. I'm doing well.
1:49:11
Speaker 3: How are you, I'm good. It's good to have you
1:49:13
Speaker 3: on eleven straight nights of strikes against military targets in Iran.
1:49:19
Speaker 3: Do you have a sense that this is having the
1:49:22
Speaker 3: desired effect to I guess, once again, try and bring
1:49:27
Speaker 3: Iranian leadership, not if not bring them to the table,
1:49:31
Speaker 3: but at least bring them to their knees.
1:49:34
Speaker 16: Well, I think we are seeing progress in that regard.
1:49:37
Speaker 16: And as you said of that question, there there are
1:49:39
Speaker 16: two main lines of efforts, and I'm thinking about what
1:49:41
Speaker 16: these strikes first is imposing costs on Iran? What the
1:49:46
Speaker 16: president is seeking to do here with these strikes, and notably,
1:49:49
Speaker 16: like you said eleven days, then these are not just
1:49:52
Speaker 16: tit for tat retaliatory strikes, exchanging strikes. This is designed
1:49:56
Speaker 16: to impose costs on Iran for it's continued into into
1:50:00
Speaker 16: violating the menoranum of understanding that both countries reached. So
1:50:04
Speaker 16: the President wants to ensure that Iron seals that pressure,
1:50:07
Speaker 16: ultimately feeling more pain by continuing to fire straights or
1:50:12
Speaker 16: missiles or the straighter for Moose rather than coming to
1:50:14
Speaker 16: the table. So the President wants a Ron to feel
1:50:16
Speaker 16: those costs. But secondly, as you mentioned here, his preferred
1:50:19
Speaker 16: route then is wanting to impose those costs that it
1:50:22
Speaker 16: incentivizes Iran, it gives it a reason to come back
1:50:25
Speaker 16: to the negotiating table. So, in other words, for this
1:50:27
Speaker 16: matters because these strikes are speaking a different language to Iran,
1:50:32
Speaker 16: but with the same goal. It wants Iran to stop
1:50:34
Speaker 16: its behavior. If it's not going to do somthically, the
1:50:37
Speaker 16: President will will go back to military action to see
1:50:40
Speaker 16: either a if it's going to bring run back to
1:50:42
Speaker 16: the table or if it WON'TE. How do we make
1:50:44
Speaker 16: sure Iron does not have access to any nuclear material?
1:50:47
Speaker 16: The ability to keep firing the straighter from Moose to
1:50:49
Speaker 16: basically force it to stop being this big of a threat.
1:50:53
Speaker 3: My sense of all this is that that Trump has
1:50:59
Speaker 3: been wary think from the very beginning of putting additional
1:51:03
Speaker 3: hardships on the Iranian people. If if he could target
1:51:07
Speaker 3: I guess just the leadership and only the leadership and
1:51:11
Speaker 3: the IRGC, I would imagine that that is what he
1:51:14
Speaker 3: would do. But there has to be a component of
1:51:17
Speaker 3: this that these strikes eleven days in a row right
1:51:20
Speaker 3: now that have been pretty heavy, are really putting a
1:51:24
Speaker 3: hardship on the Iranian people. Do you have any are
1:51:27
Speaker 3: you looking at anything that suggests that that is the case.
1:51:32
Speaker 16: Well, we do know that operation's economic theory remain air
1:51:36
Speaker 16: is now back on full force here in which a
1:51:39
Speaker 16: the blockheade of Irani imports his return. But then b
1:51:43
Speaker 16: the a few weeks almost a month ago at this
1:51:46
Speaker 16: point where we had the MLU announced, the Treasury Secretary
1:51:49
Speaker 16: of Scott Best did authorized a general laver on different
1:51:53
Speaker 16: on different limitations on Iranian oil and petroleum based product exports.
1:51:58
Speaker 16: Now that was an important because a sort of the
1:52:00
Speaker 16: time Iran was negotiating in good faith and the sense
1:52:04
Speaker 16: that the US felt comfortable working with it, but b
1:52:06
Speaker 16: that the US was willing to negotiate and give something
1:52:09
Speaker 16: in return to Iran for its willinness to work with
1:52:11
Speaker 16: the US. So what we're seeing here is, yes, now
1:52:13
Speaker 16: listen to the military component. We are seeing that economic
1:52:16
Speaker 16: lever return, that it's blockading the ports, and that waiver
1:52:19
Speaker 16: has been revoked, which is always something that US had
1:52:22
Speaker 16: the toolkit, and that's a continued theme here.
1:52:24
Speaker 11: The regime has to work with.
1:52:26
Speaker 16: The US if it does so, the President has consistently
1:52:29
Speaker 16: made clear he will work with Iran to get a deal.
1:52:32
Speaker 16: If Iran refuses to do that, that he's not afraid
1:52:34
Speaker 16: to reapply for So I think you're right it is
1:52:36
Speaker 16: certainly he doesn't want to have this pain brought on
1:52:39
Speaker 16: the Iranian people. That's also why we saw additional sanctions
1:52:42
Speaker 16: package that Treasury announced last week in which it specifically
1:52:45
Speaker 16: was targeting networks and banking and financial systems that the regime,
1:52:49
Speaker 16: the Supreme Leader and his closed story one in particular,
1:52:52
Speaker 16: are understood to have been utilizing. So they're really trying
1:52:55
Speaker 16: to put the pressure on those that are making these
1:52:57
Speaker 16: decisions and minimize it for the everyday people. Who's sent
1:53:00
Speaker 16: we want a better light.
1:53:01
Speaker 3: Let me play a cut that happened from when Trump
1:53:06
Speaker 3: had reporters in the Oval office yesterday and a reporter
1:53:09
Speaker 3: asked a question about what's happening in Iran? And let
1:53:13
Speaker 3: me get your reaction to what President Trump had to say. Here, Joe,
1:53:16
Speaker 3: let's hear cut number seven. Please, it's a resident.
1:53:19
Speaker 10: There are no signs that Iran is ready to stop fighting,
1:53:21
Speaker 10: So what is the plan.
1:53:23
Speaker 14: Is the plan to just keep bombing until they give up?
1:53:27
Speaker 4: What do you know something that I don't know?
1:53:28
Speaker 7: Well?
1:53:29
Speaker 17: To attack our allies.
1:53:30
Speaker 4: You don't know what the dialogue is behind the scenes
1:53:33
Speaker 4: that they want to meet desperately to try and end
1:53:35
Speaker 4: it because they're getting decimated. You don't get that when
1:53:38
Speaker 4: you listen to your fake station. But you don't know,
1:53:43
Speaker 4: you don't know anything.
1:53:44
Speaker 12: What talks are?
1:53:45
Speaker 4: You know something that I don't know? Do you know
1:53:47
Speaker 4: something I don't know?
1:53:48
Speaker 3: Well, tell us.
1:53:49
Speaker 4: I will tell you. They want to desperately meet and
1:53:53
Speaker 4: until they're ready to meet in a meaningful way, we
1:53:56
Speaker 4: have no interest in.
1:53:57
Speaker 3: Even so, Andrew Harding, when I hear the President talk
1:54:01
Speaker 3: like that, do you know something that I don't know?
1:54:03
Speaker 3: And she says there's no indication that Iran wants to
1:54:06
Speaker 3: stop fighting, and I see that. I couple that with
1:54:09
Speaker 3: the reporting of the Iranian president, who is subordinate to
1:54:13
Speaker 3: the supreme leader, you know, declares full scare war against
1:54:17
Speaker 3: the United States. I keep coming back to something that
1:54:20
Speaker 3: we have touched upon before that there are two faces here.
1:54:25
Speaker 3: There is one face that is meant for consumption by
1:54:28
Speaker 3: the Iranian people that the leadership is standing strong, that
1:54:32
Speaker 3: they are, you know, fighting this great adversary. But then
1:54:35
Speaker 3: the other face of this is is that that they
1:54:39
Speaker 3: are saying to the administration that you are kicking our
1:54:42
Speaker 3: butt and that we want to come to the table.
1:54:46
Speaker 16: I think you ray as an excellent characterization of what
1:54:49
Speaker 16: we're facing here. First, I think people need in those
1:54:52
Speaker 16: of the media to understand the president has access to
1:54:56
Speaker 16: the information intelligence he needs to make these decisions. But
1:55:00
Speaker 16: I think I think that's where the president's frustration is
1:55:02
Speaker 16: getting from here, saying do you know something I don't.
1:55:04
Speaker 11: But at the end of the day, it's the.
1:55:05
Speaker 16: President and his team of closest advisors that are directly
1:55:08
Speaker 16: involved in this that have an understanding of what strikes
1:55:11
Speaker 16: are looking at, what targets can look like. But also
1:55:13
Speaker 16: if there are any types of dialogue behind the scene
1:55:16
Speaker 16: that is intentionally being done with the president and the
1:55:18
Speaker 16: private sense, not in an open sense. But secondly, here
1:55:21
Speaker 16: I think you make a good point here about how
1:55:23
Speaker 16: the regime is trying to position itself. Iran has to
1:55:26
Speaker 16: balance a delicate game here. One hand, it has to
1:55:29
Speaker 16: sow strength at home. It has to attend to convince
1:55:32
Speaker 16: the people of Iran that our on is winning, that
1:55:34
Speaker 16: things are fine, that America is in the wrong here,
1:55:36
Speaker 16: that the regime is doing everything it can to stabilize things.
1:55:39
Speaker 11: To benefit run and people.
1:55:41
Speaker 16: But I think from there, it's where you see these
1:55:43
Speaker 16: statements saying we're not going to negotiate, we're going to
1:55:45
Speaker 16: fight hard, we're ext we're hitting all these targets, et cetera.
1:55:49
Speaker 16: But then you have the class, more of the external
1:55:51
Speaker 16: facing class, those that have worked with the president, that
1:55:54
Speaker 16: are having these dialogues, that are meeting with President Trump
1:55:57
Speaker 16: or his negotiating team rather that have been willing to
1:56:00
Speaker 16: have these talks about what could an EMU look like
1:56:03
Speaker 16: and what that looks like behind the scenes. So the
1:56:05
Speaker 16: Irani regime's going to spin everything to look strong in
1:56:08
Speaker 16: their own within their own audience, but then externally with
1:56:11
Speaker 16: the President, they understand that they need to work with
1:56:13
Speaker 16: him to get a good deal across the line.
1:56:15
Speaker 3: I think we have a good understanding now, in a
1:56:18
Speaker 3: good sense now that any memorandum of understanding or anything
1:56:22
Speaker 3: that is written down really isn't worth the paper that
1:56:25
Speaker 3: it's written on. If if there is some sort of
1:56:28
Speaker 3: agreement that's going to take place, what do you think
1:56:31
Speaker 3: that agreement needs to look like.
1:56:34
Speaker 16: Well, I think we had a decent overall some of
1:56:39
Speaker 16: the texts of the MU a decent framework in the
1:56:42
Speaker 16: sense of Iran was going to renounce it's an ambition
1:56:46
Speaker 16: and tend to get a nuclear weapon, in which Iran
1:56:49
Speaker 16: was going to have some type of work over the
1:56:50
Speaker 16: straight or from Moosen. Sure it would be free and
1:56:52
Speaker 16: for free and open navigation of all travelers.
1:56:55
Speaker 10: Another.
1:56:55
Speaker 16: The United States at this end was willing to look
1:56:57
Speaker 16: at the different economic components and levers that it's built
1:57:00
Speaker 16: up over time, the different sanctions that it's been able
1:57:02
Speaker 16: to put in place for the regime's behavior, the ability
1:57:05
Speaker 16: to look at assets that it's acquired and frozen.
1:57:07
Speaker 11: So there was.
1:57:09
Speaker 16: A logic here of what each side could come to
1:57:12
Speaker 16: the table. So I think what really matter at the
1:57:15
Speaker 16: end of the day for an MoU to succeed on
1:57:17
Speaker 16: America's terms is first, Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
1:57:21
Speaker 16: The fact that there was some language there to start
1:57:23
Speaker 16: MoU is a good start. But as we've learned for
1:57:27
Speaker 16: decades of.
1:57:27
Speaker 11: The regime, and just as you mentioned.
1:57:30
Speaker 16: Iran's wordsn't really worth the ink use to put it
1:57:33
Speaker 16: on a piece of paper. What matters is how we're
1:57:36
Speaker 16: going to force and verify it. So you start with
1:57:38
Speaker 16: the paper, you start with the mcgreen, let's open the street.
1:57:41
Speaker 16: But now it all comes down to verification. The administration
1:57:44
Speaker 16: and Vice President Van in particular has been very focused
1:57:46
Speaker 16: on that aspect, that it all comes down to compliance
1:57:50
Speaker 16: and verifying every action Iran takes.
1:57:52
Speaker 11: So good deal.
1:57:53
Speaker 16: What a good MoU can look like is you say
1:57:56
Speaker 16: the right things. Yes, it's the starting point, let's agree
1:57:58
Speaker 16: to that. But then Iran can't a week or two
1:58:01
Speaker 16: later start firing missus the straight up moose that instantly
1:58:04
Speaker 16: turns everything upside down, And so why the president's having
1:58:06
Speaker 16: to respond as strongly as EU. So if the wrong
1:58:09
Speaker 16: could comply, then there could be a potential in which
1:58:11
Speaker 16: we don't have to worry about Aron becoming the North
1:58:14
Speaker 16: Korea of the Middle East, and we could see some
1:58:16
Speaker 16: greater sense of stability in the Middle East, and that
1:58:18
Speaker 16: relates to better security and prosperity for the American people.
1:58:21
Speaker 3: All right, Andrew Harding, if you can stay right there,
1:58:24
Speaker 3: We've got a quick break to get to in one
1:58:26
Speaker 3: more segment after this. Stay right there and we'll continue
1:58:29
Speaker 3: on with Andrew Harding. And I've got more questions about
1:58:32
Speaker 3: the Straight Ohor Removes for you right after this on
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Speaker 3: fifty five KRC, the talk station our Rhearty the Talk
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Speaker 3: station eight nineteen on this Wednesday morning, as we continue
1:58:47
Speaker 3: our conversation with Andrew Harding of the Heritage Foundation. And Andrew,
1:58:51
Speaker 3: I was reading a dispatch from Sencom yesterday and they
1:58:55
Speaker 3: were talking about how more than nine hundred ships have
1:58:59
Speaker 3: navigate the Straight of Horror Moves and I think the
1:59:03
Speaker 3: date they put on it was since May thirtieth, and
1:59:06
Speaker 3: so I look at that and I say, Okay, nine
1:59:08
Speaker 3: hundred ships, that's pretty good. But when you look at
1:59:11
Speaker 3: what the number was, the daily number of ships going
1:59:15
Speaker 3: through the Straight of Horn Moves was prior to the
1:59:19
Speaker 3: action there, it was in excess of one hundred of
1:59:21
Speaker 3: these vessels every single day. So nine hundred from May
1:59:25
Speaker 3: until now is really not that great of a number
1:59:28
Speaker 3: for Sencom to put out there to really, to my
1:59:32
Speaker 3: way of thinking, to be proud of. It's good that
1:59:34
Speaker 3: some vessels getting through, But my sense of the matter
1:59:37
Speaker 3: is is that the Straight of Horn moves may be
1:59:40
Speaker 3: partially open. And I think there's a great sense of
1:59:43
Speaker 3: frustration about how Iran maintains the ability to disrupt traffic
1:59:50
Speaker 3: through the strait, even after the eleven straight nights of attacks,
1:59:56
Speaker 3: on their ability to launch missiles and drones and things
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Speaker 3: like that.
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Speaker 16: Absolutely, it is incredibly frustrating that Iran continues to do
2:00:05
Speaker 16: this and continues to violate the terms that they agree
2:00:08
Speaker 16: to the MoU and they are now still unity, the
2:00:11
Speaker 16: IRGC willing to fire missiles across the strait in order
2:00:15
Speaker 16: to complicate in a negotiation process. And I think sometimes
2:00:19
Speaker 16: it can be easy to conflate, or something I've noticed
2:00:23
Speaker 16: is when the President makes clear that we've decimated Irani
2:00:26
Speaker 16: and infrastructure, on their ability there's defense, industrial base, their
2:00:29
Speaker 16: ability to fight and wager war, I think some then
2:00:33
Speaker 16: correlate that into well, you know, so the IRGC.
2:00:36
Speaker 11: Should stop firing missiles.
2:00:37
Speaker 16: But there's a difference here what Iran is unable to
2:00:40
Speaker 16: do now because if US and Israeli strikes, it is
2:00:43
Speaker 16: unable to defend its own homeland to where the US
2:00:46
Speaker 16: can take off, as we're seeing with eleven straight days
2:00:49
Speaker 16: of dropping bombs with incredible accuracy, wipe out coastal defenses,
2:00:54
Speaker 16: commanded control sites, the ability for to have air defenses,
2:00:57
Speaker 16: for it to even have different missile styles, and you
2:00:59
Speaker 16: mission stock piles and take out this infrastructure all throughout
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Speaker 16: the country of Iran, and it has very minimal ability to.
2:01:06
Speaker 11: Fight back on that.
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Speaker 16: Now, that doesn't mean that Iran doesn't have the ability
2:01:11
Speaker 16: to steal fire missiles, to still hit a drone every
2:01:14
Speaker 16: couple of weeks, the ability for it to still hide
2:01:17
Speaker 16: use its geography, pop in and out, fire missile at
2:01:20
Speaker 16: a vessel or a small attack boat, and then hurry
2:01:23
Speaker 16: back and hide under the geography and the waters in
2:01:25
Speaker 16: may have. That's why we're seeing in recent strikes they
2:01:28
Speaker 16: were specifically focusing on coastal ports that are right next
2:01:33
Speaker 16: erat or longest. Creato removes to degrade the portability to
2:01:36
Speaker 16: operate and support ongoing naval operations by the Iranians. So
2:01:41
Speaker 16: why this matters is it means that Iran is unable
2:01:44
Speaker 16: to win or defeat the United States in any conventional aspect,
2:01:49
Speaker 16: but it can still and it tries to. It's intentionally
2:01:52
Speaker 16: trying to maintain some stockpile, to hold the stray at risk, to.
2:01:55
Speaker 11: Continue to have these types of escalations here.
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Speaker 16: So I think really, at the end of the day,
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Speaker 16: the Iran agreed to the terms of the MOLU, they're
2:02:03
Speaker 16: violating it, but they're intentionally trying to have that leverage
2:02:06
Speaker 16: to see making extract from negotiations. The President is rightly
2:02:09
Speaker 16: not allowing that to continue without cost.
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Speaker 3: Is it a foregone conclusion at this point that Iran's
2:02:16
Speaker 3: ambitions and their ability to create a nuclear weapon have
2:02:22
Speaker 3: pretty much been wiped out and bombed back to the
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Speaker 3: Stone Age?
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Speaker 16: I think practically yes. I think there's now certain focus
2:02:31
Speaker 16: looking at pick Acts.
2:02:33
Speaker 11: The sick Acts is.
2:02:35
Speaker 16: In another potential nuclear site that Iran is.
2:02:39
Speaker 11: Yet again deeply embedded deep into.
2:02:41
Speaker 16: A mountain, and the Secretary of Access made clear that
2:02:44
Speaker 16: if there's any military that can get.
2:02:45
Speaker 11: To it, it is the United States.
2:02:48
Speaker 16: But really by taking out and by the consistent bombings
2:02:52
Speaker 16: of these facilities, not only during Operation Ethnic Theory, but
2:02:54
Speaker 16: all the way back to Operation Midnight Hammer of last year,
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Speaker 16: we've seen a consistent demonstration US strength that is targeting
2:03:01
Speaker 16: Iran's ability to access these sites. And even if they
2:03:05
Speaker 16: maintain these ambitions, and this is why I think it's
2:03:07
Speaker 16: important to where we think about we get a.
2:03:09
Speaker 11: Deal or not. If we don't get to a deal, the.
2:03:12
Speaker 16: President is making clear that Iran will not have the
2:03:15
Speaker 16: practical ability to develop or require any nuclear weapon, no
2:03:20
Speaker 16: matter what its A tent may be, certainly while he's
2:03:22
Speaker 16: in office, but the purpose is decades down the road
2:03:25
Speaker 16: by taking out these precise facilities. And then why it's
2:03:28
Speaker 16: important that we can degrade rannventionally and its ability to
2:03:32
Speaker 16: have air defenses to hit any of the bombs that
2:03:35
Speaker 16: work or jets coming in, because that allows us then
2:03:38
Speaker 16: to consistently survey those sites. And if it's clear that
2:03:43
Speaker 16: they're trying to do something that will hurt American interests,
2:03:45
Speaker 16: such as try to turn ambition into reality with a
2:03:48
Speaker 16: weapon nuclear weapon, we have the ability to go in
2:03:51
Speaker 16: the country and degrade that site's ability to operate. So
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Speaker 16: I think there are multiple components here. But even if
2:03:58
Speaker 16: they have the ambition we're going to make or they
2:04:00
Speaker 16: don't have the capability to turn it into reality.
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Speaker 3: Secretary Hegseeth was in front of Senators yesterday making the
2:04:09
Speaker 3: case for more funding for operations in Iran. What did
2:04:14
Speaker 3: you make of that appearance and in your opinion, should
2:04:19
Speaker 3: should the Senators be willing to sign off on additional
2:04:23
Speaker 3: funding for the Pentagon in order to pursue the objectives here?
2:04:29
Speaker 16: Well, I think the Secretary did a strong job. Of Course,
2:04:32
Speaker 16: he understands he's fielding many different questions and understandably he
2:04:37
Speaker 16: asked to talk about the funding, the money, the costs
2:04:39
Speaker 16: that are coming with this, and I think it's important
2:04:42
Speaker 16: that when we're thinking about how do we support this effort?
2:04:44
Speaker 16: I think if the president's made clear, it is very
2:04:48
Speaker 16: hurtful for the American negotiating position. If it's clear, there's
2:04:51
Speaker 16: a congressional political divide in the United States and there
2:04:54
Speaker 16: it will be debates about the best way to use resources,
2:04:57
Speaker 16: how long this goes on the scope of operations. But
2:05:01
Speaker 16: by having any large public outbursts or threats to not
2:05:04
Speaker 16: support the Pentagon or the ability to degrade America's ability
2:05:08
Speaker 16: to continue a fight, what that does is it incentivized
2:05:11
Speaker 16: the running regime to keep up strikes in the straight
2:05:14
Speaker 16: up from a to keep trying to impose costs on
2:05:17
Speaker 16: only within the Strait, but then how that percolates the
2:05:20
Speaker 16: international economy, how that relates to gas prices, other countries
2:05:24
Speaker 16: that may be upset with the United States per se,
2:05:26
Speaker 16: they're not happy with prices, you name it. There's a
2:05:29
Speaker 16: risk here. So it's very important that's the Senate the
2:05:32
Speaker 16: Congress work with administration here too as they as they
2:05:35
Speaker 16: figure out and debate in fair terms what they want
2:05:38
Speaker 16: to see here, to do so in a very public
2:05:40
Speaker 16: and targeted manner that doesn't project any types of large
2:05:44
Speaker 16: divisions to the running regime that could attempt to exploit.
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Speaker 3: Andrew Harding, we could talk for hours, but we will
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Speaker 3: leave it there for now. As always, I want to
2:05:52
Speaker 3: thank you for your time and glad we got you
2:05:55
Speaker 3: on relatively short notice today. I wasn't sure if you
2:05:58
Speaker 3: were going to be here, but you made your way
2:06:00
Speaker 3: here and I couldn't be happier. Andrew Harding a great
2:06:03
Speaker 3: analysis and insight as always, and thank you so much
2:06:07
Speaker 3: for that, and I certainly look forward to the next
2:06:09
Speaker 3: time we get a chance to talk again.
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Speaker 11: I wouldn't miss it. Thanks so much for the opportunity.
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Speaker 3: All right, there you go Andrew Harding of the Heritage Foundation,
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Speaker 3: and always appreciate his thoughtful commentary on what is happening
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Speaker 3: take on what is happening with action in Iran as
2:06:51
Speaker 3: we continue to strike their military targets. Very frustrating. Again,
2:06:54
Speaker 3: Iran's a big country about the size of Alaska, a
2:06:57
Speaker 3: lot of places where they can hide troops and equipment
2:07:00
Speaker 3: and military assets and all the rest of it. So
2:07:03
Speaker 3: it is no easy task to go in there and
2:07:05
Speaker 3: take out the things that they have to use against
2:07:09
Speaker 3: the straight of horror moves against American positions in the
2:07:13
Speaker 3: Middle East? What else is going on? The fallout continues
2:07:19
Speaker 3: from the President's speech on Thursday night, where he talked
2:07:22
Speaker 3: about election interference and the documents that he released to
2:07:27
Speaker 3: back up his claim. Of course, for so long, the
2:07:31
Speaker 3: narrative has been that Trump is out there on his own,
2:07:34
Speaker 3: that he doesn't have any evidence, blah blah blah. He
2:07:37
Speaker 3: released dozens, not dozens, but a lot. I don't know
2:07:41
Speaker 3: how many, exactly how many pages, but it's a lot
2:07:44
Speaker 3: of pages of documents that back up the claims that
2:07:47
Speaker 3: he was making about election fraud. And so this was
2:07:51
Speaker 3: the subject on CNN Jake Tapper and some other hack
2:07:56
Speaker 3: I don't even know who the dude is he's talking
2:07:58
Speaker 3: with here, but they were talking about election threats, and Joe,
2:08:01
Speaker 3: could we please hear cut number four?
2:08:03
Speaker 1: Please?
2:08:03
Speaker 18: The Republicans here are talking about a solution to a
2:08:06
Speaker 18: non existent problem. Again, Jake, very clear, this country does
2:08:11
Speaker 18: not have a problem of election security in any measurable level,
2:08:15
Speaker 18: and certainly not based on people coming from other countries.
2:08:18
Speaker 2: Right, it happens, but a very very minuscule numbers.
2:08:23
Speaker 19: It's not a serious threat when it comes to election security.
2:08:28
Speaker 18: Again, it happens, but very vanishingly small. Yeah, it was
2:08:32
Speaker 18: so small that it's just beyond comparings.
2:08:36
Speaker 3: So that's the narrative from CNN. Oh, it's just so small.
2:08:40
Speaker 3: And then on the show that Scott Jennings is on
2:08:43
Speaker 3: the panel show that he is on, and the name
2:08:46
Speaker 3: of the narrator, the moderator of that show, the head
2:08:49
Speaker 3: of that show, or her name escapes me. But here's
2:08:51
Speaker 3: Scott Jennings last night on CNN talking about this as well,
2:08:56
Speaker 3: and Joe, that's cut number nine. Please sure tolerance for this?
2:09:00
Speaker 17: My hold on this is not about tolerance. This is
2:09:02
Speaker 17: about is it widespread or is it rare?
2:09:05
Speaker 19: If you're founding him over the word widespread, I just
2:09:08
Speaker 19: would ask you, what is your tolerance for any.
2:09:10
Speaker 16: Fraud at all?
2:09:11
Speaker 14: Is it widespread?
2:09:12
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
2:09:14
Speaker 19: Over six thousand, she said, And my bar is I
2:09:18
Speaker 19: want no tolerance.
2:09:19
Speaker 3: I have zero.
2:09:20
Speaker 17: So what is your tolerance for America?
2:09:22
Speaker 19: By the way, this isn't the only place this is.
2:09:24
Speaker 17: What is your tolerance for American citizens whose valid voter
2:09:27
Speaker 17: registrations are invalidated by incorrect databasis? What's your tolerance for that?
2:09:31
Speaker 19: I don't have tolerance for any mistakes in the electoral system, including.
2:09:37
Speaker 10: The roles.
2:09:38
Speaker 17: So then why are we not keeping the same energy
2:09:40
Speaker 17: for that as we are for this.
2:09:41
Speaker 3: I do have energy, as you know.
2:09:42
Speaker 19: I've come out here and long argued that every time
2:09:45
Speaker 19: we don't clean up the voter rolls. At every time
2:09:47
Speaker 19: a non citizen makes it onto the voter rolls, it
2:09:49
Speaker 19: invalidates some legal put about.
2:09:52
Speaker 17: When an American is not allowed to vote when they
2:09:54
Speaker 17: are eligible to vote.
2:09:55
Speaker 19: I don't have any tolerance for that either American citizens
2:09:58
Speaker 19: to vote, Americans medics are invalidated.
2:10:05
Speaker 3: So I would suggest that the scenario that she lays
2:10:09
Speaker 3: out happens far less and look and like Scott Jennings said,
2:10:14
Speaker 3: zero tolerance for any of this stuff. We should have
2:10:17
Speaker 3: zero tolerance for illegals voting in our elections. We should
2:10:24
Speaker 3: have zero tolerance for foreign countries meddling in our elections.
2:10:30
Speaker 3: We should have zero tolerance for party operatives who seek
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Speaker 3: to ballot harvest, who seek to send out voter registration
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Speaker 3: forms and ballots in the mail without proper identification, without
2:10:47
Speaker 3: really any way of verifying chain of custody or where
2:10:52
Speaker 3: those votes come from, or counting them after election day.
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Speaker 3: We should have zero tolerance for all of that. But
2:10:58
Speaker 3: the notion that oh, no, the you know, the foreign
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Speaker 3: interference in our elections are no big deal is it
2:11:07
Speaker 3: is something that is so small and so minuscule that
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Speaker 3: it is a waste of time to bother with this
2:11:15
Speaker 3: sort of thing. And this is the debate that they're
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Speaker 3: having on CNN today. Well, where did this idea come
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Speaker 3: from that we should be concerned about foreign interference in
2:11:27
Speaker 3: our elections? Well, it came from none other than Barack
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Speaker 3: Hussein Obama. Here's a clip that I came across yesterday
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Speaker 3: from twenty sixteen, Barack whosein Obama talking about foreign election interference. Joe,
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Speaker 3: if we could please let's hear cut number five.
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Speaker 20: The Russians were responsible for hacking the DNC, and that
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Speaker 20: as a consequence, it is important for us to view
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Speaker 20: all elements of that and make sure that we are
2:12:04
Speaker 20: preventing that kind of interference through cyber attacks in the future.
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Speaker 20: That should be a bipartisan issue, that shouldn't be a
2:12:12
Speaker 20: partisan issue. And my hope is that the president elect
2:12:20
Speaker 20: is going to similarly be concerned with making sure that
2:12:24
Speaker 20: we don't have potential foreign influence in our election process.
2:12:28
Speaker 20: I don't think any American wants that, and that shouldn't
2:12:32
Speaker 20: be a source of an argument.
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Speaker 3: So there's Barack Obama, Barack who Saint Obama talking about
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Speaker 3: the president elect, who at that time was Donald Trump,
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Speaker 3: that he should be concerned about, and he hopes that
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Speaker 3: he takes seriously the notion of foreign interference in our elections?
2:12:56
Speaker 3: And is that not exactly what he has been doing
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Speaker 3: ever since he's been in office, in his first term
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Speaker 3: and in this term, taking seriously the threat of foreign
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Speaker 3: elections or foreign interference in our elections. Isn't that what
2:13:12
Speaker 3: he talked about the other night, taking it seriously, putting
2:13:17
Speaker 3: out the documents backing up what he's saying. But for
2:13:21
Speaker 3: CNN today, for Jake Tapper and all the other morons
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Speaker 3: on CNN who claim that they are the arbiters of truth,
2:13:30
Speaker 3: who wouldn't run his speech because well, they just knew
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Speaker 3: ahead of time he was going to do nothing but
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Speaker 3: lie that it was up to the brainiacts at CNN
2:13:41
Speaker 3: to look at what the President said, distill the facts,
2:13:45
Speaker 3: and then report them to the American people instead of
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Speaker 3: letting the American people, those who the small numbers that
2:13:53
Speaker 3: do watch CNN decide for themselves and judge for themselves
2:13:58
Speaker 3: based on what the President said. So Jake Tapper and
2:14:02
Speaker 3: these others on CNN need to check themselves of where
2:14:06
Speaker 3: this idea came from that we should take seriously the
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Speaker 3: notion of foreign interference in our elections. It was Barack
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Speaker 3: Obama right there, Joe? Is that what am I misreading?
2:14:19
Speaker 3: Am I hearing? Right? What? What what Obama said right there?
2:14:23
Speaker 3: Did he say that he hopes that the president elect
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Speaker 3: takes this seriously? So this is Joe. Joe heard it
2:14:33
Speaker 3: the same way I did. This is a great instance
2:14:36
Speaker 3: of bipartisanship on behalf of Obama and Trump finding common ground.
2:14:43
Speaker 3: On the of course, the Obama used the idea of
2:14:47
Speaker 3: foreign interference, whether it be real or fake, to further
2:14:52
Speaker 3: the notion of well, he said that, you know, he
2:14:56
Speaker 3: said there was going to be a peaceful transfer of power,
2:14:58
Speaker 3: but we know behind the scenes he had entertained no
2:15:03
Speaker 3: such idea of a peaceful transfer of power. Because what
2:15:07
Speaker 3: Obama did, simply it is probably the biggest scandal that
2:15:15
Speaker 3: we've ever had in the United States and something that
2:15:17
Speaker 3: puts Watergate to shame. It is a thirty nine I'm
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Speaker 3: late for a break on fifty five KRCV talk station.
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Speaker 2: For eighty years, them were heating and cooling hit talk station.
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Speaker 3: Man I seventy five northbound coming across the bridge heading
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Speaker 3: from Kentucky into Ohio has just taken an absolute beating today.
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Speaker 3: I think that's a third accident that has at least
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Speaker 3: completely or partially shut down I seventy five heading into
2:15:47
Speaker 3: downtown Cincinnati. So they again, I would just avoid seventy
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Speaker 3: five altogether. If I could talked earlier about Pete Hegseth
2:15:55
Speaker 3: being in front of a Senate committee yesterday talking about
2:15:59
Speaker 3: funding for the Pentagon, and this is a cut that
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Speaker 3: There was a lot of good stuff that Pete hegg
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Speaker 3: Seth had yesterday, but this cut that I've got here
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Speaker 3: really gives a flavor for why I like heg Seth,
2:16:14
Speaker 3: why I like a lot of members of the Trump cabinet.
2:16:18
Speaker 3: And I'll just let this speak for itself. Joe, let's
2:16:22
Speaker 3: hear cut number eight. Please.
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Speaker 21: This is rebuilding our military from what was not funded
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Speaker 21: in the past under the Bide administration. So there, This
2:16:29
Speaker 21: is from twenty twenty six, one big, beautiful bill which
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Speaker 21: which helped move the president's priorities like Golden Dome for America,
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Speaker 21: move away from all the woke priorities of what the
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Speaker 21: Bide administration was pursuing. Give us a chance to start
2:16:40
Speaker 21: cutting these deals on munition, all the things that we
2:16:43
Speaker 21: the President wanted us to focus on. Shipbuilding, hypersonics. I mean,
2:16:46
Speaker 21: the Biden administration ignored hypersonics. They just decided to pretend
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Speaker 21: like that technology didn't exist and we shouldn't invest in it.
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Speaker 21: There are things I don't know what Lloyd Austin did
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Speaker 21: for four years.
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Speaker 19: I really don't.
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Speaker 21: Amount of neglect, the amount of thinking and bureaucracy was staggering.
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Speaker 21: When we took over, one big beautiful bill gave us speech.
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Speaker 6: For a minute, mister secretary.
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Speaker 3: And that is fantastic. That is Dick Durban that you
2:17:12
Speaker 3: hear in the background there as Pete Hegseth is going
2:17:15
Speaker 3: on and on and I don't know what Lloyd Austin
2:17:17
Speaker 3: was doing for four years, and Dick Derbin wanted to
2:17:21
Speaker 3: shut that down. He did not want to hear that
2:17:24
Speaker 3: at all. And Pete Hegseth was making the point. He says, look,
2:17:26
Speaker 3: we got in there, we looked at what was going on.
2:17:30
Speaker 3: Uh you know what the status of uh you know,
2:17:33
Speaker 3: the the munitions, the armaments that we had on hand was.
2:17:36
Speaker 3: And he said it was a complete and total mess
2:17:39
Speaker 3: we sent. And he at one point he talked about
2:17:43
Speaker 3: all the weapons and things that we sent in our
2:17:47
Speaker 3: effort to support Ukraine and uh, and how that wound
2:17:52
Speaker 3: up making a big dent in in I guess the
2:17:55
Speaker 3: things that we had on him. So he was trying
2:17:58
Speaker 3: to put all this in perspective. And you know when
2:18:01
Speaker 3: he got on that rant there about I don't know
2:18:03
Speaker 3: what Lloyd Austin was doing. That just jumped out at
2:18:06
Speaker 3: me and I had to play that today, Aid forty
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Speaker 3: want to thank Brian for letting letting me sit in
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Speaker 3: and talk to this great audience. Has always love hanging
2:18:36
Speaker 3: out with everyone that listens to this show. I want
2:18:39
Speaker 3: to thank Joe Strecker for everything that he does for
2:18:41
Speaker 3: me on a daily bent makes it easy for me
2:18:44
Speaker 3: to be behind this microphone and Gary Jeff Walker will
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Speaker 3: be here on Thursday and Friday to take you through
2:18:51
Speaker 3: the rest of the week. I talked about it at
2:18:53
Speaker 3: the first Hour mainly this morning, and for those of
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Speaker 3: you that didn't have a chance to listen the first hour,
2:19:02
Speaker 3: a great peace in the Cincinnati Enquirer posted late yesterday afternoon.
2:19:09
Speaker 3: Then the headline is Cincinnati did not follow a flood
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Speaker 3: upgrade advice that they got six years ago. There was
2:19:18
Speaker 3: an engineering report that recommended replacing the bridge and eliminating
2:19:25
Speaker 3: the floodgate over the Duck Creek in Oakley, and this
2:19:29
Speaker 3: was done by an engineering company. The study was done
2:19:34
Speaker 3: six years ago. The report found that making those changes
2:19:39
Speaker 3: would significantly reduce the risk of flooding in the area.
2:19:45
Speaker 3: The city did not make the recommended changes, and so
2:19:48
Speaker 3: the existing bridge and floodgate were in place when the
2:19:52
Speaker 3: heavy rain came to visit on July seventeenth. Then resulted
2:19:55
Speaker 3: in the flooding that resulted in at least one loss
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Speaker 3: of life. And I don't think we've tallied up the
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Speaker 3: total amount of damage that was done by the flooding
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Speaker 3: that we had on July seventeenth. Would the recommendations, had
2:20:13
Speaker 3: they been put in place, have made a difference in
2:20:16
Speaker 3: the flooding that we had on July seventeenth. It is unknown.
2:20:21
Speaker 3: But what is not unknown is that no action was taken.
2:20:25
Speaker 3: And if there was action taken, well it didn't really
2:20:28
Speaker 3: result in anything because everything that this report points out
2:20:33
Speaker 3: is still in place today, all the narrow concrete passage,
2:20:39
Speaker 3: the bridge over that part of the Duck Creek, the
2:20:42
Speaker 3: floodgate that is in place. The report was produced for
2:20:47
Speaker 3: the city by the Kleiner's Group, if I'm right now,
2:20:50
Speaker 3: if I'm pronouncing that correctly, k L E I N
2:20:53
Speaker 3: G E R. S. Klein. Kleiner's Group national firm offices
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Speaker 3: in Cincinnati, don't know how much they were paid for
2:21:03
Speaker 3: the engineering report. They say the concrete foundation, which was
2:21:09
Speaker 3: built almost one hundred years ago, stands on both sides
2:21:12
Speaker 3: of the creek bed. The water flowing through the creek
2:21:15
Speaker 3: is forced into a narrow passage, makes it more likely
2:21:18
Speaker 3: to flood when the water level rises. So do yourself
2:21:21
Speaker 3: a favor. Go to the Cincinnati Acquirer website if you can.
2:21:25
Speaker 3: And I don't know if it's been published in the
2:21:27
Speaker 3: paper yet. I've always thought that's one thing the Inquirer
2:21:31
Speaker 3: needs to do when you have a piece like this.
2:21:35
Speaker 3: It doesn't necessarily always show up in the paper that
2:21:40
Speaker 3: is published the same day on their website, at least
2:21:43
Speaker 3: they should make a note of that that this piece
2:21:47
Speaker 3: appeared in print on this day. So I'm looking at
2:21:52
Speaker 3: the piece written by Dan hord Or Dan hord Dan
2:21:55
Speaker 3: Horne of The Inquirer was updated July twenty first was
2:22:00
Speaker 3: posted it. I want to say, well, it says here
2:22:04
Speaker 3: it was updated at five point forty four yesterday. I
2:22:06
Speaker 3: think it was five point fifteen when they first posted it,
2:22:09
Speaker 3: so they had an update to this piece a half
2:22:11
Speaker 3: an hour later. But there should be a note in
2:22:15
Speaker 3: there saying this piece appears in print on such and
2:22:17
Speaker 3: just the date. So if you pick up today's paper
2:22:22
Speaker 3: at a new stand or wherever they sell today's I
2:22:24
Speaker 3: don't even know where they, Joe, where do they sell
2:22:26
Speaker 3: the Inquirer, the actual printed page anymore? Don't? I don't,
2:22:33
Speaker 3: I don't. I think there's a Dollar General store near
2:22:36
Speaker 3: me where I see a rack, and at least on Sundays,
2:22:39
Speaker 3: I know they've got him in there. But yeah, they
2:22:45
Speaker 3: should include a note about when the when these stories
2:22:48
Speaker 3: appear in print. It's something I thought for a long time.
2:22:50
Speaker 3: I think I suggested that to someone at The Inquirer
2:22:54
Speaker 3: a long time ago, but then they didn't take my suggestion.
2:22:58
Speaker 3: Not maybe they don't like it for yourself. The Floodgate
2:23:04
Speaker 3: issue at the written by the Cincinnati Choir, and I
2:23:08
Speaker 3: want to give them great credit for doing some reporting
2:23:11
Speaker 3: on that and letting people know what happened there, at
2:23:16
Speaker 3: least just putting the facts out there and letting people
2:23:20
Speaker 3: decide for themselves. Burger King has got something going on
2:23:25
Speaker 3: that if you're Joe, are you a fan of the
2:23:27
Speaker 3: whopper at Burger King? But Burger King has a deal
2:23:32
Speaker 3: going on right now that if you order a whopper
2:23:35
Speaker 3: that is unsatisfactory, they have a new campaign. They say
2:23:40
Speaker 3: that prioritizes customer feedback, and for whatever reason, you order
2:23:47
Speaker 3: a whopper and you are unsatisfied with that whopper, you
2:23:53
Speaker 3: can I guess turn it back in and they're going
2:23:58
Speaker 3: to do what they can and to present you with
2:24:02
Speaker 3: another whopper that is to your satisfaction. The CEO is
2:24:09
Speaker 3: the guy who is behind this, talking about a study
2:24:12
Speaker 3: that they did where they found an unacceptable level of
2:24:15
Speaker 3: complaint about their fast food offerings. And for whatever reason,
2:24:20
Speaker 3: they are I guess, the whopper being their signature burger,
2:24:24
Speaker 3: they are concentrating on the Whopper. But apparently if you
2:24:30
Speaker 3: don't like your whopper, they say they're going to do
2:24:34
Speaker 3: everything they can to give you another whopper that has
2:24:37
Speaker 3: done to your satisfaction. How that's going to work. In reality,
2:24:41
Speaker 3: I think remains to be seen. I guess it would
2:24:45
Speaker 3: be a little more difficult if you get your whopper
2:24:47
Speaker 3: to drive through, but at least if you're in the restaurant,
2:24:50
Speaker 3: you can take it back and get a whopper that
2:24:52
Speaker 3: is done to your satisfaction. I love me some burger king,
2:24:56
Speaker 3: and we'll have to see how that plays out. It
2:24:58
Speaker 3: is time for me to go. Glenn Beck is coming
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Speaker 3: up next once again, Joe STREKERD thank you for everything.
2:25:02
Speaker 3: And Gary Jeff Walker will be here tomorrow morning, bright
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Speaker 3: and early at five am, and we hope you are
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