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Bears Over Beers: Return To Lambeau! Packers Preview · 2nd City Gridiron

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's up, there's fans?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We are back on the air.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Took a week off, apologies.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a holiday after all, but the guys, the girl dads were back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's bears over beers, powered by Second City, Grid, Iron, Ryan, Drasty, Brian Orange, Chuck, Brian were coming off a huge win over the Philadelphia Eagles on Black Friday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there is no rest for the wicked because this Sunday, bears Packers, Lambo Field, huge week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing very well, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Very well, excited for this week for a litany of reasons, reinfigurated after that win against Philly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And not just the win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't, we didn't eat out that win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We, we own that game from start to finish.
1:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And, and I will say, bro, start this game on, or this pod off with a little bit of hype.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that this year we could contend for a championship until we dominated the Eagles.
1:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Now it's creeping in my brain a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think we have a complete enough team to do it, but I can see it happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So on that note, I see you're wearing a jersey tonight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a great segue.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Great segue.
1:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Great segue.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, I should probably share my tweet because I was thinking about this earlier today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking about, you know, Bears quarterbacks, Lambo field, the Packers, you know, Bears quarterbacks that I've had success at Lambo field.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I started to think, you know, the last Bears quarterback, because you know, it's been all this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's tongue and cheek, but one game, Caleb undefeated, you know, at Lambo field.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like who was the last bear's quarterback that was actually undefeated at Lambo field and you know I was pretty sure I knew the answer I had to double-check just in case because I was going by made multiple starts at Lambo field so not just one start You know, it was it was sexy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're actually a man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, oh four to oh six Three, you know, I mean, I'll never forget any of those games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, oh four
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[SPEAKER_02]: Bears start we're starting off looking pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and then he got injured 05.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He comes back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They clinched the division at Lambo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe it was on Christmas or right after Christmas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We see that picture down there to the right with a more in the division championship at Lambo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then of course the opener 26.0 in 2006 against Green Bay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, Rex did play up there in O8 in a game that they lost, they got stomped in, but Orton started that game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Rex did not start that game, and in O7, believe the bear's won there, but it was greasy that Brian Greasey started, I think Rex was injured.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, or maybe did they win in O8?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know Rex played in O8.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they won in O8.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're off the looked it up, but the game's Rex started in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was undefeated there.
3:18
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I got to do, Brian?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have got to break out the Rex Grossman jersey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I've worn this thing.
3:28
[SPEAKER_02]: There it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a thing, it's just jersey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I've worn this thing, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Since 2008, when he made his last start for the bears, was that against the titans I want to say?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Josh, I'm not sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know about that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He played a couple of games in a way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, you got into game action at least.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I had bought this jersey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I told you off air.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I had a good story about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it was actually in 04.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The day after he got injured, was that against Minnesota?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Feel like he tore his knee up at the dome of their Minnesota.
4:00
[SPEAKER_02]: But anyways, it was the day after he tore his knee up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was in the mall, I was in college.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I walked into finish line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they had all the gross man jerseys for 1999.
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[SPEAKER_02]: like hell yeah I'll buy for 1999 so I got this jersey you know and then I still had really high hopes for you know and then oh five became back at the end of the year after another injury and then oh six half the years look like he was gonna win MVP so I was feeling like this is my greatest jersey purchase of all time and then we all know what happened after that but look the guy was undefeated at Lambo we want we want Caleb to be undefeated at Lambo so I had to break it out just for the theme
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have thought to myself, I've not shared with anyone yet, but I've thought to myself, I would trade this might sound meatballs, as hell, but I would trade two wins against the packers in a season for a winning season.
5:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care if we have a winning season if we beat the effing packers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how much I despise them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And really the really because the rivalry has been so lopsided, you know, I think I mentioned on the show earlier at some point, I'm a Michigan fan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I followed the Michigan Ohio State rivalry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ohio State had dominating when this past weekend, after not winning in four straight years, including when they won the national championship, they still couldn't beat Michigan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm all for a respectable back and forth rivalry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be there's going to be adds and flows, but they've just been getting carried away with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's time for us to write that ship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's past time way past time, if you ask me to write that ship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm I'm all for it, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually didn't know that stat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I reposted your tweet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I loved it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember sexy Rexie coming out gunslinger from Florida.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't his fault we lost a Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was Ron Turner's, Ron's hand too much, especially in those conditions of sloppy wet conditions in South Florida.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Run that damn ball at a time as showings he was doing well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a whole another story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the fact that Rexy went undefeated and his starts against Atlambo,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm wondering, if you can, if you can, I mean, it might look a little weird because it's not centered, but add a one on there, put Williams on the back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, love dirt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's like, you know, underground stuff, or that'd be awesome to see.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I do have a kale jersey too, but I mean, to combine the two mojos and the one jersey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hell yeah, that would be next level.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm I'm donning as as I've done in our win streak and I almost I told you right before the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually was I've been in my work year all get all day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a real busy day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I threw this on right beforehand because we're on a winning streak.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't have a show last week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I didn't wear it, but whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was wearing a wager as you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's between this and an earlacker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So really, my focus is a sweetenisters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a offensive, defensive theme.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And much of the Whitmer the Midway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those 2006, 2005 teams work defensive, focused teams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm like, yeah, we gotta stop Jordan Love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't stay in all the hype, Jordan Love gets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But this game, I think, is going to be one an offense to be honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're going to show up on offense this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And last week, we showed up on offense in the run game, past game not so much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's going to be a complimentary game this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm going with a sweetness jersey because I feel like we need to play some sweetball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Caleb is going to bounce back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's going to be some opportunities in the middle of the field, especially, but that run game is going to open some stuff up.
7:56
[SPEAKER_00]: They're down, they're best defense alignment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they traded the way, they're other defensive linemen.
8:00
[SPEAKER_00]: So they've got a vulnerability up the middle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're going to expose that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Caleb is going to feast this week if we can keep Mike a Parsons and check.
8:11
[SPEAKER_00]: But the end of the day, man, we haven't gotten to the beers yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to get to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: bears packers there's not been this both these teams as strong in this rivalry.
8:28
[SPEAKER_00]: And I did the math and actually posted on Wendy City on Monday and just in the comment section because many of you don't know many of you do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was a commenter on Wendy City grid iron for 10 years before I ever got introduced to writing or being on this epic podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been a commenter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am of the people, like our guy Ben Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am a man of the people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I commented how, it's been since 2010 since both teams were strong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: going into that first battle or actually either one of the battles, both teams were this strong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've been weak guys, everybody knows that that's on this podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've been pretty damn sorry the past 15 years, but 2010 both of us were strong, final game the season, and a lovely rest of the starters, and we lost that game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Played Green Bay and the NFC Championship game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when Cutler got hurt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Haney went in, BJ Rajee had that interception touchdown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the rest is the freaking packers won the Super Bowl that year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that should have been our damn Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how I got it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Same.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And anyway, that's the last time both teams had had this sort of momentum.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm looking forward to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And without further ado, I'll just go and intro my beer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the first time on a pot on this pod that I'm introing a beer I've never tasted before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a Mexican style dark logger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what the hell it tastes like, because I don't know what this is like as a bear's fan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We are in a mysterious season of bear's fandom right now with the strength of our play, our freaking coach dude, arguably the best coach in the league right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: this the schematic advantage she gives us is is uncharted territories for us and and hey hats off to Dennis Allen too he's doing a hell of a job on a defensive side either way this is a uncharted territory for us and they call us a black and blue division for a reason we're about to step into two packer games one lion's game and oh by the way we have a
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[SPEAKER_00]: Niners game on the road Sunday night football second the last week of the year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We are going through a gauntlet right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you if you don't know now, you know Go Bears and cheers to some Mexican style dark logger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll let you know how it goes on the spot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What about you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey man, you're giving me strength tonight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love that great material.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Also, the Payton jersey strategically very nice because Walter was 17 and seven against Green Bay in his career.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty dominant for the bear.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it started out not well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They had that run in the mid 2000s.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let me look here real quick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Herlacker was sort of put you on spot because it was between this and herlacker for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I'm seeing nine and eight, is that right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, maybe I have to admit some games to injury.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to say, did he play more than that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if that includes the NFC title game or not, since it was uh, play a whole season game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I don't think that includes the both season game or about five or no, no, sorry, nine and 14 nine and 14.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Nine and 14.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I think the Payton jersey and two, I'll get to my drink, too, but we've got foster covers here in the chat and he's had some good chats, so I want to get up on the screen really quick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He said, 72 to 92, Green Bay QBs were garbage, and that it was the vikes that had a 25 year QB run from the 60s to 85.
12:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, that's the thing Brian that's been frustrating for us as bears fans because we're the same age is that, you know, the last time the bears dominated the series other than that brief period under love in the mid 2000s was when we were small kids, you know, like the 80s and we don't really remember that and I know the bears were super dominant during that period, but most of my life has just been getting dominated in just horrendous fashion by green right and you have this kind of feeling that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It might be flipping, I mean, they're going to be competitive, but like, at least we don't go into these games feeling like we have no shot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I felt, you know, many times in the last 15 years, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's going to be a good game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We can very well could split with them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This would be a tough game at Lambo, I think it'll be competitive and the two teams are going to be competitive now for years and that's how it should be because Green Bay hasn't thought of us as the rival.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've thought of Minnesota as the rival for a long time and that's because we've been
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, not doing so hot, but I think that is about to change.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And bear's packers is just a little bit more special than packers Vikings.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's keep it that way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Brian, this is what I got.
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[SPEAKER_02]: First of all, you know, on this show, I like to break out the bourbon when we're coming off of a big win.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I got the bears over bourbon glass tonight and get that at our store, which is linked in the podcast description down below.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, man, one of my favorite bourbons
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[SPEAKER_02]: Buffalo Trace.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, great stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Always good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Nice and smooth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Reagan out the bourbon.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know JB would approve.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's bears over bourbon on this half of the screen tonight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Love it, JB.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cheers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cheers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so this is like it definitely drinks like a logger, you know, kind of that crispy half mouth full of of barley, you know, feel, but it's nice and dark, it drinks light, but it's obviously a dark beer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So a little more full than a typical logger doesn't have spice that I thought maybe a Mexican logger might.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That wasn't sure what direction they'd go with it, but.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but it's definitely drinkable and hey man, uncharted territories, but the way this tastes, I like our chances.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, very nice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Very nice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: God, it's me cold up there, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you see, I think high of 15 degrees?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Love it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's gonna be the running game when in this one, I think.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll talk about Packers most of the show, but really quick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you have anything you want to talk about the Eagles before we move forward?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We usually do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's been longer since that game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The normal obviously it was a Friday game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We haven't had a chance to talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I've will rewatch the game now a couple of times the short version.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tell me about like, it was obviously a holiday weekend.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Were you watching that game with family?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What was your experience watching the Eagles game?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I was watching with family.
15:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, my daughter, who is my oldest daughter, who's the only one that gives a crap about the bears.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, couldn't believe that we won, or that we were winning, they were doing so well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So she got very excited.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and yeah, I, I, I, I, I think we definitely have to talk about this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Get as a huge game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have to spend much time on it, but that was a huge game for so many reasons.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of people rightfully so talk about the dominance of the run game and the offensive line and how well they performed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: really in the past as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb had his time in the pocket against a very formidable, very, very threatening Eagles defensive line, especially against the past.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There were some mistrows, there were some slip receivers, and that's that's a whole other story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: offensive line dominated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is the biggest takeaway.
15:49
[SPEAKER_00]: But I want to flip Taylor side of the ball because I was most most excited to see the return of Kyler Gordon with CJ Garner Johnson, both then play similar positions in the same position in Dennis Allen's defense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And how did they play coming back?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now both Gordon and Jalen were on a snap count.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They played roughly 30 to 35
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[SPEAKER_00]: and they both showed up, they both showed up and you could see them and appreciate what they brought to the game in those limited steps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's gonna be closer to 100% this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I expect, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm really excited to see that because I love what Daniel Salon could do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: against a very strong eagles' offense with his full compliment of defensive backs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who, mind you, as we've talked about at Nazim on this show, have very complimentary skill sets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so my favorite thing when I was a coach, I know you were a coach, a lot of different sports, Dennis Allen is a phenomenal coach.
16:52
[SPEAKER_00]: is he puts his players in position to succeed and that might look outside the box at what he typically does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But your role as a coach is to put your positions and the skill sets they have where those skill sets can be most advantageous.
17:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And Dennis Allen has been doing that and not gonna
17:12
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's going to be even more so this week because those guys are going to be healthy now.
17:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And, oh, by the way, no a school as you post on when you see Grinart, full practice today, TJ for the first time limited.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm guess we're going to have both of those guys back, which is going to be huge this week.
17:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Not to mention, and not to take anything away from the linebackerset that's stepped up in their stead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought they played really, really well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: when we have a full-completive defensive backs, what that looks like because it gets to Eagles, Ryan, that got me excited.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the story that's a couple of games with the bears being without all three starting linebackers is just that really, I mean, I've noticed they're not out there, but there hasn't been like the back-breaking plays over and over and over.
18:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, if we had our starters out there, like they've held it down fine.
18:08
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, yeah, getting Kyler and Jalen back, Jalen made a big play.
18:12
[SPEAKER_02]: That was what the AJ Brown was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Isn't it right across the middle where he broke those up?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was got her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he was got her.
18:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
18:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
18:18
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean, you noticed him when he was out there, like your point, they'll probably be playing closer to 100% of the snaps this week, you would think.
18:26
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, you were talking about the bears as possible championship contenders.
18:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe earlier than we thought, you know, and he said, you know, probably not, but you never know.
18:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I think there's been worst teams to make the Super Bowl, to be honest with you.
18:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not putting that, I'm not predicting that to happen or anything.
18:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel much like a lot of bears fans that like, we're over achieving this year, certainly, and we're arriving earlier than you would have expected.
18:50
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, I feel we're kind of like the 2015 Cups this year to put it in baseball analogy.
18:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they got, they went to the NLCS the year before they won the World Series and everyone thought it was a year early.
19:01
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I feel like starting next year, especially if we show up this past rush and make some moves, the bears are going to be a super popular to go to the Super Bowl next year by a lot of media types of things this year.
19:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it could happen, we just beat the Super Bowl champs in their own home and from a massive audience, you know, we didn't do the show last week.
19:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but I, you know, spoiler, I would not have picked them to win the game.
19:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I just didn't think we were in a win that game.
19:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Me neither.
19:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I was overjoyed, you know, that we did it as I was saying.
19:32
[SPEAKER_02]: The linebackers, they held it down.
19:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there was big place through the air, you know, but overall.
19:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, it was mostly late in the harvest time kind of stuff.
19:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there was that one pick the one touch down to AJ like wrap on the left side where it was like he made that great catch basically just took it out of CJ's hands It's like he's going to make that against anybody's AJ proud.
19:52
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, but otherwise to hold and to hold, say, Juan to what they held him to.
19:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I, you know, I was so worried.
20:01
[SPEAKER_02]: This is what I would talk about in the show last week.
20:03
[SPEAKER_02]: All these linebackers out.
20:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Man, we're screwed.
20:06
[SPEAKER_02]: You can say quambargly instead, you know, we barely had an impact on the game.
20:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
20:10
[SPEAKER_02]: There's, and then, you know, we were talking about the O6 Super Bowl team.
20:14
[SPEAKER_02]: One of the problems with the O6 Super Bowl team is that they lost so many key guys down the stretch.
20:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I will always maintain that the healthy O6 bears team
20:26
[SPEAKER_02]: was better than the cult set year.
20:28
[SPEAKER_02]: But we lost Mike Brown.
20:29
[SPEAKER_02]: We lost Tommy Harris, like the best three technique in the league.
20:32
[SPEAKER_02]: If we had to have those guys out there, I think it would have been a different game.
20:35
[SPEAKER_02]: And if Ron Turner called a better game to your point.
20:38
[SPEAKER_02]: But we were losing guys down the stretch.
20:40
[SPEAKER_02]: The difference this year, man, is we are getting guys back.
20:44
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the opposite where this time should be peaking going into the postseason.
20:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
20:49
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, it's called back to 2010 when we lost to Green Bay, they were the last wild card team in that year and they won the Super Bowl and that that was a situation where they peeked plate and didn't look great early in the year.
21:02
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think this team's gonna be peeking at the right time and we'll see what happens.
21:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think anyone's gonna wanna play him.
21:07
[SPEAKER_02]: You know?
21:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
21:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I still feel like we gotta get to 11 wins.
21:10
[SPEAKER_02]: We gotta hard schedule.
21:11
[SPEAKER_02]: We gotta at least win two more games and then I'll feel confident that they're gonna make the postseason.
21:16
[SPEAKER_02]: But man, we're in a great spot.
21:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Coming off this huge win in Philadelphia.
21:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how you can't be excited.
21:22
[SPEAKER_02]: You said that we got the coach.
21:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this is the first time in many, many years, the bears have had an advantage when it comes to their coaches.
21:30
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I know he's in this first season, but like right now, I feel I've been Johnson's a better coach than that before right now.
21:37
[SPEAKER_02]: And we got Dennis Allen, a former head coach, great defensive coordinator just feels like tactically we have an advantage.
21:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
21:45
[SPEAKER_02]: They have a very talented team.
21:46
[SPEAKER_02]: They're missing some pieces, but man, I mean, it's going to be a slug fest.
21:51
[SPEAKER_02]: This is what you want out of NFC North football in December.
21:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely, man.
21:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Johnson and Allen, like we've talked about.
22:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Antomal Randallel, Al Harris, Dan Rishar, like we have the staff that Ben put together has been absolutely phenomenal.
22:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I do want to kind of touch on the whole fraud piece, which most critics put to rest after we'd be the defending champions.
22:26
[SPEAKER_00]: But we still have that who of you beating, they're not who they think they are, whatever.
22:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just, I got to think in man, like, I don't know if you've, if you've ever paid attention to this stuff, but over the years, and I just went back to the last, I don't know, ten or so.
22:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it feels like even when we had terribly bad when it losing seasons, we would play the, the, the,
22:56
[SPEAKER_00]: inevitable or eventual Super Bowl champions, well, or the team that they played in the Super Bowl, we play them well, we'd hang with them, we'd have a tough game and look like we belong, and then because I always remember like, gosh, this team's in the Super Bowl, we actually almost beat them, or we did beat them, and they're in the Super Bowl.
23:17
[SPEAKER_00]: How far away are we?
23:19
[SPEAKER_00]: The 22 bears with fields lost to Philly, in Chicago, Philly lost in the Super Bowl that year, that's the game that that fields had that broken tackle run where he almost got sack twice and then ran around the left corner, scored a touch.
23:35
[SPEAKER_00]: We lost that game 20 to 25.
23:38
[SPEAKER_00]: They went on to the Super Bowl.
23:40
[SPEAKER_00]: We were three and 13 that season.
23:43
[SPEAKER_00]: 13, and we almost beat,
23:47
[SPEAKER_00]: And right, almost don't count for shit in this league.
23:51
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't.
23:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And, but that's what I'm talking about.
23:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Like people discounting our record because of who we've played.
23:58
[SPEAKER_00]: We're getting wins.
24:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And what nobody likes to talk about, unless you're a die hard, is the health of our roster, as you alluded to, we're finally starting to get healthy on defense.
24:10
[SPEAKER_00]: But in the meantime, we're winning.
24:12
[SPEAKER_00]: As Ben talked about, we've not been winning because of our passing game.
24:18
[SPEAKER_00]: It's been in spite of.
24:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're still winning, early in the season, the penalties were massive and in our disadvantage, but we're still winning.
24:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
24:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And so that gives, like, we're not even, we have not close to peaked yet.
24:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
24:37
[SPEAKER_00]: And you go back to 21.
24:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
24:40
[SPEAKER_00]: With fields, we went 6-11 and 20-21.
24:43
[SPEAKER_00]: We beat the Bengals who lost in the Super Bowl to the Rams that year.
24:48
[SPEAKER_00]: We beat them 20-17.
24:49
[SPEAKER_00]: And we were 6-11.
24:52
[SPEAKER_00]: In 2020, we beat the Buccaneers who won the Super Bowl with Tom Brady on Thursday night football, 2019.
25:03
[SPEAKER_00]: We had a sub 500 record that year.
25:06
[SPEAKER_00]: We were at the end of nine, but we beat the Super Bowl champs.
25:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
25:11
[SPEAKER_00]: So anything can happen in this league.
25:14
[SPEAKER_00]: And what we're proving is that we have a winning bunch.
25:17
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a winning culture.
25:19
[SPEAKER_00]: We've got playmakers on both sides of the ball at every level.
25:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Now like you said earlier, we need to do something about that past rush, but Booker has been shown up and sweat has been shown up.
25:33
[SPEAKER_00]: So we've got playmakers at every level on all sides of the team, like I told the nobody wants to play us and it starts in Green Bay and that's the monkey on our back that that I care more about than the defending world champs or Aaron Rogers and the Steelers give me Jordan loves ass and the packers in Lambo field where is where we saw him last and we won.
26:01
[SPEAKER_00]: right like give me them this game and this is a big game and and as has been pointed out kind of back and forth on Twitter.
26:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I absolutely feel the pressure is on Green Bay.
26:14
[SPEAKER_00]: We're playing with house money and we're getting guys back.
26:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Are they going to show up and remind everyone that they're the big brother here or are they going to get pumped?
26:27
[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see, but this is a massive, massive game, not just for the rivalry.
26:33
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a huge game for the NFC playoff picture.
26:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.
26:37
[SPEAKER_00]: For the Lions, like this is a huge game all the way around.
26:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And then two weeks, two weeks from now, we got them again on prime time.
26:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
26:48
[SPEAKER_00]: This is gonna be epic, man, but yeah, gosh, man.
26:50
[SPEAKER_00]: This is one that I, we got a half.
26:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I, yeah, man, I think they're feeling the pressure.
26:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I, it's just a feeling I have.
26:58
[SPEAKER_02]: We won there last year.
27:00
[SPEAKER_02]: People talk about some of their guys in that plant.
27:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, Jordan Lov was in that game.
27:03
[SPEAKER_02]: They were down.
27:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Was it 14 to three when he left the game?
27:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
27:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they were losing when he was in the game.
27:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
27:08
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, they see the bears coming on, just like the whole rest of the league, that people can move the goal post all that they want.
27:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Say, first it was the bears having beaten anybody.
27:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm seeing people say, oh, well, Philly's not playing very well right now.
27:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on, you know.
27:23
[SPEAKER_02]: come on.
27:24
[SPEAKER_00]: It's still winning.
27:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
27:25
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not, it's not like Green Bay has played just like a crazy schedule and beat a bunch of really good teams.
27:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, who are there wins against?
27:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, Detroit, of course, but we've seen the Detroit is really falling back to Earth this year.
27:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
27:39
[SPEAKER_02]: They beat Minnesota, beat the Giants, Pittsburgh, Arizona,
27:47
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not that much different.
27:50
[SPEAKER_00]: It's very, very similar.
27:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I mean, they're they're feeling it because you know, I think that they probably realize if they if they lose this game here, it's going to be a tough.
27:59
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be tough sledding to beat them and and soldier field in two weeks.
28:02
[SPEAKER_02]: So prime time game Chicago fans more excited than they've been in 15 years can be a great environment on the wake front.
28:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I think they look at this one as one that they have to have and yeah, I mean, I think more is expected of them.
28:17
[SPEAKER_02]: They made this huge, huge trade for Mike Parsons, man.
28:20
[SPEAKER_02]: They mortgage their future on that.
28:21
[SPEAKER_02]: They're playing pain, Jordan love, and Mike Parsons, two guys, and enormous sum of money to win a Super Bowl in the next two years.
28:28
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean,
28:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I know we'll hear it from green bay fans if they win.
28:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's the banter of the rivalry and everything.
28:34
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, they're the team that's supposed to win this game.
28:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
28:37
[SPEAKER_02]: We're still playing with house money, but we feel like we should win this game.
28:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel, you know, I know they won three games in a row.
28:43
[SPEAKER_02]: The bears are the hotter team right now.
28:45
[SPEAKER_02]: When you look at who we've beat.
28:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And, uh, speaking of that, did you have a reading interest when they played the lines on Thanksgiving?
28:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you, were you gunna one or the other?
28:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Because let's stop people all over the map on that.
28:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I might.
28:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
28:57
[SPEAKER_00]: For me, earmuffs kids fucked the packers all day every day, fucked the packers.
29:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
29:02
[SPEAKER_00]: And, and I hope I've got some of my packers buddies that listen to this podcast, because I've got a few of them.
29:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And, and I love them.
29:09
[SPEAKER_00]: And I respect the rivalry.
29:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I do.
29:11
[SPEAKER_00]: But they say the same damn thing.
29:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
29:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And they've been, you know, we have been a little brother for so long, and there's no rivalry in all of sports.
29:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care who it is better ranked Yankees Red Sox.
29:25
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter.
29:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Ohio State Michigan.
29:27
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter.
29:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it would be nice.
29:30
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's a great point.
29:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Foster covers.
29:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I would love.
29:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I would love for them to win out except for our two games and then play them in a wild card in our home and beat them again.
29:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that would be awesome.
29:42
[SPEAKER_00]: That's probably my dream right.
29:43
[SPEAKER_02]: We may retribution for that and have see title.
29:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because because they stomped on a they stomped on a week and measly bears team for so long.
29:52
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's another thing.
29:54
[SPEAKER_00]: to take out the rival in the NFC Championship game, right?
29:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Like they did us in 2010 and then going to win the Super Bowl.
30:03
[SPEAKER_00]: It's another thing to beat your rival when they're strong, which is why if you watch Ohio State Michigan rivalry, and Michigan didn't have their best player.
30:12
[SPEAKER_00]: and their second best player got hurt, that game, they were winning and then things went awry.
30:19
[SPEAKER_00]: But still, if W's a W in these rivalries and oh man, I love that for sure.
30:24
[SPEAKER_00]: And the thing too, Ryan, like that's really fascinating to me, is how like the residue of the bear's trauma brain is slowly falling off.
30:36
[SPEAKER_00]: slowly, with each of these wins, with each opportunity, Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams and Denis Allen, the three most support people in franchise right now, have to show their worth and their value and they're doing it, you know, right in front of our eyes.
30:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And the residue, the traumas falling
31:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Our offensive line is top five in the league.
31:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Some people say it's the best in the league, bro.
31:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Think about that compared to last year and where we were at.
31:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of the guys we were playing in that Green Bay game.
31:18
[SPEAKER_00]: And the green in the lap and the one we, in the game we beat them in earlier this year, January 25, we started a whole bunch of known name guys, only guy that is a starter in this league.
31:30
[SPEAKER_00]: It, um, you could argue Coleman Shelton for sure, center, but we upgraded center absolutely.
31:36
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Darnell right.
31:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
31:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Who is playing at an all pro level right now.
31:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And we've got, oh, by the way, all pro at left guard, pro ball at right guard.
31:47
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm loving what I'm seeing from Aussie so far, man, on the left side.
31:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And I love the way that they have, that they have slow played their hand.
31:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Really, this just allowed the developed natural development of the players to take place before they threw them into the fire.
32:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
32:03
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, they've just done, dare I say everything right.
32:09
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm confident more than nervous.
32:14
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's more than like a boisterous, arrogant, hateful excitement for the Packers game than anything can happen.
32:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Because you know how that is.
32:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Anything can happen, a rivalry game.
32:26
[SPEAKER_00]: It was just a few weeks ago.
32:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I lost my survival ball because I picked the bills, dominating bills to beat the dolphins.
32:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And a rivalry game, dolphins one.
32:35
[SPEAKER_00]: So anything can happen.
32:36
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why you love rivalries.
32:38
[SPEAKER_00]: But my confidence, and I piggyback off of what Jalen Johnson said this week, like they're confident, like we put in the work, and we're getting healthy, we're ready.
32:51
[SPEAKER_00]: So I can't wait to see it.
32:54
[SPEAKER_00]: can't wait to see it.
32:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Cheers man.
32:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Cheers.
32:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
32:59
[SPEAKER_02]: And you're on a roll tonight, you're going to make me work with these YouTube shorts off of this show.
33:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I can already tell I have to cut a lot of these segments that you can do short.
33:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Brian is fired up.
33:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Hell yeah.
33:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I love to see it.
33:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know the other great thing when you think about this roster.
33:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so foster it said in the chat your foster covers One of the great things is about the depth pieces that we have that we haven't had 13 seasons and they've played I mean, yeah, some of these guys who we're getting down how many strings on our depth chart and they're coming into the game Especially in the secondary like nation right and they're contributing
33:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah, just a great problem to have, maybe that you got so many depth pieces and hang it onto some of these guys, you know, when their contracts come to do, we're not going to be able to hang on to all of them, but we've got all these guys can play.
33:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
33:44
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, you got to get polls credit for that.
33:47
[SPEAKER_02]: But with the roster where I was going with this green Bay rivalry is, it's great that.
33:53
[SPEAKER_02]: There's so many new faces around there that they weren't on those bear's teams that were getting dominated year after year after year after year.
33:59
[SPEAKER_02]: One of the great things about the turnover on this roster and all the fresh faces, they don't have that history, you know, Caleb and Rome.
34:06
[SPEAKER_02]: You know last year we should have swept green bay they want on a blocked field gold soldier field Which is an illegal block to field it all by the way up a penalty the bears got called And I think the next week leveraging on the on the block, but whatever they won the game We beat them in lambo, but like dude.
34:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's no reason these guys don't feel like they can't sweep the packers Or definitely split with them.
34:27
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't have the feeling that I've had in the years past where you talked about the trauma Packers trauma like oh my god.
34:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Here we go again, and you know
34:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Jordan love his a solid quarterback.
34:38
[SPEAKER_02]: He is, but he, I've said this in the show before, and I think a lot of bears fans feel the same way.
34:43
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't, it doesn't give me fear.
34:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't, you know, when we would have those games where like Rogers seemingly would always get hurt against the bears and he'd go out and then he'd come back late in the game and be like, oh shit.
34:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Here we go.
34:55
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and then you knew you saw a comment, yep, they won the game.
34:59
[SPEAKER_02]: He'd bring him back to happen so many times.
35:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying the Jordan Love can't go off and have four touchdown passes or something.
35:06
[SPEAKER_02]: He might, but I also don't feel like he's the kind of dude that is just going to dominate this team year after year after year after year.
35:17
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't have that kind of cache.
35:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think.
35:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And so that's another thing that gives me hope, but all sorts of just what the bears are building man.
35:25
[SPEAKER_02]: And they again, what I said earlier, the coaching staff, we have a tactical advantage.
35:30
[SPEAKER_02]: We just saw Ben Johnson outskim the Super Bowl champions.
35:34
[SPEAKER_00]: And, and Seriani admitted as much.
35:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
35:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'll scheme Brian for us, you know, like, I mean, I just, I just feel like God damn finally finally this team has an advantage when it comes to our coaching and that matters a lot in the NFL when all these you said it rivalry games anything can happen any given Sunday all that stuff if you have the coaches.
35:59
[SPEAKER_02]: that puts you over the top.
36:01
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what it comes down to.
36:03
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's been a lot of talk this week about, God, where does Ben Johnson already rank on the, you know, the bear's coach, I'm not getting it that carried away.
36:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not, but like, man,
36:16
[SPEAKER_02]: He's he's already like rank in super high for me.
36:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I said some podcasts a couple of weeks ago.
36:21
[SPEAKER_00]: How three already.
36:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and even just of my favorite coaches for my favorite teams, he's probably in the post-filjax and there are probably my favorite.
36:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, love you is a great coach.
36:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I like Ben Johnson more, just the energy he brings.
36:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
36:35
[SPEAKER_02]: And, um,
36:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I know all the longtime bear's fans.
36:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, my first memories are watching Mike Dick at Coach of the Bears.
36:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to take anything away from him.
36:42
[SPEAKER_02]: He loves you.
36:44
[SPEAKER_01]: He loves you.
36:45
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
36:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
36:45
[SPEAKER_02]: He won the Super Bowl, all of that.
36:48
[SPEAKER_02]: But I also think, yeah, we had a lot of injuries back then.
36:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm foster cover as you see in our chat, you're talking about he's watched the Bears for 50 years.
36:54
[SPEAKER_02]: So he could definitely speak to this.
36:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Great team in the 1980s.
36:58
[SPEAKER_02]: But one of the problems, also the injuries, McMahon couldn't stay healthy.
37:02
[SPEAKER_02]: But one of the problems in the 80s with the bears.
37:05
[SPEAKER_02]: was, I think it just got out coached all the time.
37:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
37:09
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what it really came down to.
37:11
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what you play on.
37:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And they were losing the Washington, right?
37:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
37:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
37:15
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you got one of those great coaches, that puts you over the top.
37:20
[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like we have that.
37:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And regardless of what happens this year, man, this team is definitely on the trajectory to win a lot over the next few years.
37:30
[SPEAKER_02]: And it is so exciting, given the fact that you and I,
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[SPEAKER_02]: picked up bears over the years last year with a couple of our good friends here on Wendy City Griniron.
37:39
[SPEAKER_02]: And by the end of the year, we're like, God, what do we get ourselves into?
37:42
[SPEAKER_02]: We thought this was going to be a fun season to cover the bears.
37:45
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was just so we were just ejected every single week.
37:48
[SPEAKER_02]: But you know what, that was worth it to get to this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because if that didn't happen, we don't get Ben Johnson Man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And here we are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The bears are finally arriving again.
37:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Cheers to that.
37:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I got two things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: two things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Number one, I don't have Packers trauma.
38:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get that straight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have trauma as a bear's fan because the Packers have been a side note of our issues the last 15, 20, 30 years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Coaching malpractice offensive line quarterback, that has been the primary
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[SPEAKER_00]: as a bear's fan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we are traumatized because we'll pass up a Patrick Mahalm for a Mitch Turbiski.
38:40
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll put all our eggs in the Justin Fields bucket and then throw him to the wolves against the best defensive line his first start and star him for life.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we have seen this song and dance before, but this is different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's why it's falling away.
38:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Second thing, foster, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, thank you for being with us, being a bear's fan for so long.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What the hell are you drinking, brother?
39:08
[SPEAKER_00]: You gotta tell us what you're drinking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you don't hop on a bear's or a bear's podcast, if you're not least drinking up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Seltzer water, non-alcoholic beer, which I have put on this podcast before all about some non-alcoholic stuff, but what are you drinking, man?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I want to cheers to you, fostered.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Moving forward, drossy.
39:31
[SPEAKER_00]: The thing that I wanted to talk about about the balance of back the Eagles game real quick, because so much was said about us trading back 2023,
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[SPEAKER_00]: to select Darnell Wright and missing out on Jalen Carter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we ended up getting Darnell Wright, another pick, and Jervon Dexter's senior.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I would much rather have, right, and Dexter than I would Jalen Carter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's not even bringing in to count the off the field or in between the whistles
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[SPEAKER_00]: shenanigans that Carter has, which he didn't show and he against us, but he was utterly dominated against us and he's misgained multiple gains for stupid reasons and, oh, by the way, Dexter has very similar stats to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, so I think I just want to point out,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Darnell Wright was the right play, no pun intended.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's dominating.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He should be a proble if not an all pro.
40:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And we need him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He is a huge part of our offensive resurgent right now.
40:40
[SPEAKER_00]: huge part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have these massive run games without Darnel right period.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'd rather him over Jalen Carter.
40:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I've said it before.
40:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I've said it on here because I haven't talked about it.
40:51
[SPEAKER_00]: But that was a factor from last week's game that I thought I wanted to bring up.
40:56
[SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully we can put that to rest.
40:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Ryan Poles made the right move.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, Jalen Carter was for the most part, a non-factor in the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Non-factor.
41:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you didn't hear his name called all that much in the game.
41:06
[SPEAKER_00]: You got a sack.
41:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
41:08
[SPEAKER_00]: It was really more of a Aussie getting beat sack than it was him.
41:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Although he did beat Joan of Jackson when I won that play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Caleb would have avoided.
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[SPEAKER_00]: him if if it wasn't for chupillo, letting up Nolan Smith in his face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So either way, it was, I mean, Jalen Carter, he said he's a great player, great player.
41:28
[SPEAKER_00]: First round pick all day, top 10 even, but I'll take Donna right and you're the week.
41:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well said, man, I mean, he's on his way to his first pro bowl.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This year, he better be.
41:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man, he better be.
41:39
[SPEAKER_00]: You know who else better be, bro?
41:41
[SPEAKER_00]: That I didn't see any of the rate, the the voting's.
41:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I think, baby, because he's hurt, termine elements.
41:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
41:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
41:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Emmett's having an all pro season before you got hurt.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
41:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And his name was not in the top 10 voting for linebackers.
41:55
[SPEAKER_02]: That's insane, because yeah, every week when I do the game balls column, when you see the grid iron, and I know you and your game notes are always calling them out, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like always in contention for the game fall defense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It seems like every week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like my god.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm giving it to me to give.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like he has been probably yeah the most.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, him and biored probably the most consistent, right guys on our defense all your long and God is going to be huge when we get him back here in a couple of weeks too.
42:22
[SPEAKER_02]: So
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, man, I mean, you look at this green bay game, keys to the game, you talked about running the rock, you talked about the injuries they got on the D line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I know that Green Bay secondary has been given up yard as they did the Jared Goff on Thanksgiving.
42:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Caleb will make some plays through the air.
42:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
42:42
[SPEAKER_02]: But man, this has got to be just again at the weather forecast.
42:46
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's going to be a 10 degrees plus whatever the windshield is.
42:49
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be cold as hell up there.
42:51
[SPEAKER_02]: This is one of those games.
42:52
[SPEAKER_02]: The bears got to win similar to Philly.
42:54
[SPEAKER_02]: They got to go in there and just run it down their throats.
42:57
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, also I am a little worried, you know, about Parsons and going up against Trapillo.
43:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Trapillo has been good in and run blocking not as well and in past blocking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we can negate that fact hopefully by just run in the ball, run the ball down their throats and hopefully that'd be enough to win the game.
43:14
[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, again, I think they'll be plays if you made through the air, but man, it's going to be like throwing a big rock out there as cold as it's going to be a man.
43:21
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be tough.
43:23
[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, I think Jacob's having a good season too, but I just think we got the run game advantage and hopefully that carries the bears of the victory.
43:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
43:33
[SPEAKER_00]: They're absolutely in.
43:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do predictions, man.
43:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going 31, 20, 31, 20 bears.
43:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Bears, divers.
43:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I love, I love our run game.
43:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I love our play action game.
43:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Caleb is on point this week.
43:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the receivers catch the balls this week.
43:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Just because it's been, it's just been culminating.
43:53
[SPEAKER_00]: One thing after the other word, we're growing, we're going in that direction.
43:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Like Ben talked about this week.
43:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb is making the right reads.
44:01
[SPEAKER_00]: The right decisions with the football.
44:03
[SPEAKER_00]: and the few balls that he, that number of the ones he missed last week, the guys slipped, but it was a perfectly thrown pass, if they didn't slip.
44:12
[SPEAKER_00]: And so Lambo, and that's another thing too, Lambo, it's frozen tundra for a reason.
44:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Micah Parsons.
44:18
[SPEAKER_00]: You're in a, he played at Penn State, but he's been in Dallas, it's gonna be cold.
44:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And Trapillo, I mean, he's gonna line up all over the field.
44:26
[SPEAKER_00]: That's one of the things Parsons does.
44:27
[SPEAKER_00]: He moves all over.
44:29
[SPEAKER_00]: But I've liked what I saw, what I've seen from Trapillo in past pro.
44:34
[SPEAKER_00]: And obviously, you know, we just talked about how Nolan Smith got it, got in to Caleb, but he's still learning, either way, we've got a plan.
44:43
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a thing.
44:44
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not just about the player with Ben Johnson, he will put you in a position to succeed.
44:58
[SPEAKER_00]: And when do you know we won the game?
45:00
[SPEAKER_00]: So Ben Johnson is going to attack the game the way he should.
45:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Protecting Ozzy on the edge, especially with a guy like Micah, and Ben knows all about Micah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going 31, 20.
45:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we do have a strong run game, but I think we throw more touchdowns than runs, run touchdowns this week.
45:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Caleb throws for 220 to 250 with three touchdowns this week.
45:25
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm going for.
45:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm going to be inspired by your jersey.
45:30
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to say bears win this game, 34.
45:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say 34, 24 bears.
45:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say double digits.
45:39
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be a two score game, just like Philly.
45:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking right now at their schedule and how they've been winning.
45:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, they put up 23 against Minnesota is just a train racer right now.
45:52
[SPEAKER_02]: They put up 31 in Detroit inside at New York, 27.
45:57
[SPEAKER_02]: And right before that, I was 10 to 7 against the Eagles that they lost the last 16 to 13 against the Panthers.
46:03
[SPEAKER_02]: They've had some games where they didn't square them any points.
46:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I was I was toying with 34, 17 and doubling them up, but I'll give them more credit that.
46:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll say, I'll say, 34, 24 bears.
46:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, yeah, I feel like
46:16
[SPEAKER_02]: If they can throw it, you know, in the weather isn't too detrimental, I feel like Kale is going to be really motivated, you know, we know he pays attention to what people are saying, he retweets stuff out there, you know, throw and shade at people, and I mean, I have everyone's talking about always completion percentage, you know, and yeah, it's not great, but there's also plays where like you talk, but the bears are like seventh in the league and drops, and then you mentioned like the two balls he threw in Philly that were perfect for big gains and like the turf monster took out our receivers, you know,
46:46
[SPEAKER_02]: that would have certainly helped a stat line too, yeah I think Caleb will have a bounce back game and I think the run game is just going to be dominant again and I think our online is just going to push around their D-line.
46:57
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think the run game comes through I think the bears win the game and if that happens we're feeling really good on the show next week.
47:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, I would say that my Polish Porter all season.
47:09
[SPEAKER_00]: If we beat the Packers this week, I will be drinking it next week.
47:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Just throwing it out there.
47:14
[SPEAKER_00]: It's about that time.
47:16
[SPEAKER_00]: But, yeah, I mean, like we said, pressure's on Green Bay this week, absolutely, and they have to see.
47:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Not only what Ben Johnson has done and knowing what he did when he was with the Troy, and a lot of people are trying to put Bulletin Board material up there with Ben Johnson calling out the floor at the, you know, his preseason presser or hiring pressers, opening presser.
47:42
[SPEAKER_00]: They're rightfully so.
47:43
[SPEAKER_00]: He called him out, but he dominated as a lion's coach.
47:47
[SPEAKER_00]: And look at the lines of doing now without him.
47:49
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's got the number for the Packers.
47:53
[SPEAKER_00]: And so the Packers, I mean, they're they're fooling themselves or they're as oblivious and naive as as I expect them to be all the time in thinking that they're not worried about the bears because it's the
48:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Legend gentlemen is not the same old bears and and if you're not worried about Caleb Williams You ought to be if you're not worried about this offence of land is run game, especially without your boy divante Wyatt You ought to be and coalson loving coal commit
48:24
[SPEAKER_00]: watch out.
48:26
[SPEAKER_00]: We got DJ Moore still who dominated last year as well.
48:29
[SPEAKER_00]: But by the way, Rome is back up another season.
48:32
[SPEAKER_00]: And we got Luther Burton.
48:33
[SPEAKER_00]: You better put somebody on him because he'll take it to the house.
48:37
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I'm excited.
48:39
[SPEAKER_00]: We got the players and we got the coaches and I'm excited man.
48:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think we're going to put ourselves on the map.
48:47
[SPEAKER_00]: this week in a way we feel is valuable because the national people might care about this defending Super Bowl champions, but we care about the Packers.
48:57
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's not make the Packers and go from there.
49:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Rome's do a big game too.
49:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I think if you're a gambling person, I'd pick Rome and do and say anytime touchdown.
49:07
[SPEAKER_02]: He is due a touchdown in this game.
49:09
[SPEAKER_02]: He's he's
49:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's, man, it's going to be a big one.
49:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's where I'll put.
49:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll say if the bears won this game, I got, it's been sitting in my fridge for a while.
49:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I got a 120 minute IPA from Dogfish Head.
49:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, nice.
49:26
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, that's a beer that's about 15 and a half percent when it's new.
49:30
[SPEAKER_02]: When it sits in the fridge for a year or two, it's more than that.
49:33
[SPEAKER_02]: So I will break open my 120 minute IPA next week on a show.
49:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be a real fun show.
49:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if the bears won this one,
49:44
[SPEAKER_02]: God, we got a low motivation in the world man.
49:46
[SPEAKER_02]: We're the number one seed in the NFC.
49:48
[SPEAKER_02]: We can troll our destiny.
49:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Each arrival maintain your hold on the number one seed and your hold on the LFC North.
49:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
49:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, get healthy.
49:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Get those guys back roll into January feeling good man.
50:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I finally bears football is relevant in December.
50:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Hell yeah.
50:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I did want to say, too, uh, you probably are going to see the tweets I've been retweeting them out there, um, you know, I finally got our bears overbears die cut stickers in guys.
50:15
[SPEAKER_02]: And we appreciate all your support.
50:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Those of you in the chat tonight.
50:18
[SPEAKER_02]: And everyone that listens on the podcast feed, the show has been doing really well for us this year since Brian and I took over full time.
50:23
[SPEAKER_02]: And I want to thank all of you for tuning in each and every week, whether it's YouTube or the podcast feed.
50:29
[SPEAKER_02]: If you've been seeing those pictures,
50:35
[SPEAKER_02]: to help get the word out.
50:36
[SPEAKER_02]: You put a wherever you want, put on your car, put on your laptop, whatever, man, wherever you want to put it.
50:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I will send you one free of charge.
50:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll buy the postage and send it to you.
50:45
[SPEAKER_02]: All you have to do.
50:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Take a picture of yourself listing the podcast or your screen in the car with the show on and tweet it at bears overbears.
50:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll DM you like I did all the people I've been retweeting get your address to send you Send out that bears overbear sticker Fosters been super active in the chat tonight foster if you're still around I'd like to send you a sticker just for tuning in with us tonight
51:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Why don't you, uh, want you send me, uh, an email and I will get that to you.
51:15
[SPEAKER_02]: If I don't know if you're on social media or not, but if you send me send me an email to, uh, actually, I don't know if I want to read my email here.
51:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, getting a bunch of spam.
51:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Tweet me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you don't have Twitter, sign up for Twitter, foster.
51:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll get you the sticker.
51:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, this, this, this YouTube, uh, you know, the transcript.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I might show up in all these spam, you know, as if I say my
51:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, tweet me at Ryan Drosty or at Bears Overbears and I'll get a whole review of the address to send the sticker.
51:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Same with you, Daniel Barry.
51:43
[SPEAKER_02]: He's in the chat almost every single week would love to send you a sticker, tweet us at Bears Overbears or DM me over there and I can get you one of those bears overbears stickers and anyone out there listening.
51:53
[SPEAKER_02]: If you want one, like I said, tweet the picture at Bears Overbears, I got plenty more of those stickers.
51:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll send you one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Spread the word.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Brian, I sent some to you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if they're showing up yet.
52:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I got it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, hell yeah, there they are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to say you got a surprise on the way, but yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Love it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hell yeah.
52:13
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, that's all we got.
52:15
[SPEAKER_02]: So anything else you wanted to hit before we hit the road?
52:18
[SPEAKER_00]: No, man, fairdown.
52:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.
52:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Can't wait to see you guys next week with the wind under our belt with cheese.
52:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Hell yeah.
52:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Love to hear it.
52:25
[SPEAKER_02]: It'll be great show.
52:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's make it happen.
52:27
[SPEAKER_02]: It's fairdown.
52:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get that wind.
52:29
[SPEAKER_02]: See you all.
52:30
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's week everybody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Take care.