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89. Jack Frost (1998) · Notable Nostalgia

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  Maybe we as the audience is expecting too much of Jack Frost and maybe maybe
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  like just shitty people get riding weird substance. What Yeah, like maybe maybe
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  just shitty people do get reincarnated and don't learn their lesson, Like what if,
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  like you know, he was somebody who's like embazzling a bunch of money.
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  And I'm Ali, I'm Andy, I'm Jeff, and I'm Ria And
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  this is notable nostalgia. I get confused, baby, I get confused and
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  so upset nostalgia nerds. I got Riah, Jeff and Andy with me,
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  and we're talking the nineteen ninety eight classic Christmas film Jack Frost. Woo,
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  here we go. Who's excited? Yeah, I'm excited. Yeah I am
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  too. So before we started this movie, though, I was one two
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  three four podcast Here's Handy, What's a Cool Bags? Podcast? In a
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  podcast, He's Andy, What's a Cold Bags? J's Favorite Christmas song was
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  released on October twenty ninth in nineteen ninety four. It's a classic Mariah Carey
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  hit Tiger. Electronic handheld games like Power Ranger Jurassic parkin Sonic three sold for
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  seventeen ninety nine. Podcast in a podcast, Andy What's a Cold Bags?
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  Podcast? In a podcast, Here's Andy, What's a Cold Bags? All
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  right? So before watching this movie, I, for some reason could have
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  swore that Bruce Willis was in this movie. I was gonna watch with my
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  girlfriend last night, and I was like, Hey, just to prepare you,
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  it's like a Christmas Bruce Willis movie, so don't expect me. The
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  character Jack Frost is like very Bruce Willis an So I must have made that
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  weird connection at some point as a child. I have no idea. All
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  right, well, let's talk about it. So when was the first time
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  we all saw this? And you know, did anybody watch it when they
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  were young? Where are we at? I saw it for the very first
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  time last night. I saw the case a bunch growing up in like Blockbuster,
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  walking past it. But it didn't ever seem like something I wanted to
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  watch. Yeah, because I knew it was about death and I was right
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  around the age of my mom passed aways, I was like, oh,
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  this might be a little too much for a little landy, but uh am,
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  I glad I watched it last night. I guess you'll find out nice
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  the Jack Frost movie. I watched this I think one time as a kid.
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  If that was the question one time as a kid, and I was
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  like, man, but I had nostalgia for it. But then after we
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  watched him like, okay, man, like I liked it. I was
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  I was jamming. Was that the question you asked? Fine, Jeff,
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  I did find it. That's a past. That's it. It was so
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  much. I love that movie, but it was so much better. We're
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  talking about this yet it was so much better than it was in my head.
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  Well, that's good and your dream Rhea. Yes, I grew up
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  watching this as a kid. I don't remember, like if I saw it
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  when it first came out. What year did it come out again? Ninety
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  eight? Okay, so this would have been two years after my grandpa died.
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  I bet I probably did see it when it first came out. Okay,
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  I saw it for the first time, what a few years ago?
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  And you made me watch it for the first time? Watch it? Yeah,
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  so, but watched year since we've watched it together. That is very
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  true. So that's there's something to say about this film. Oh so is
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  this a staple for you Ria every year? Yes? This is. It
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  does remind me of that soup commercial from Theties. Remember the little boy who's
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  like in a Snowman that comes in? Oh, I love that. That's
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  a that's a Christmas commercial right there? Yeah? Is this a okay?
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  No, it takes placed during Christmas? Is this a Christmas movie? It's
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  interesting, like there's no real like Christmas element, Like they don't celebrate Christmas
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  or anything in this. But I mean, when else are you going to
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  watch a Snowman movie. I mean they do talk about like going up to
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  the cabin for Christmas, but they don't actually do any really Christmas. And
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  this was released on December eleventh, nineteen ninety eight, so I'm sure what
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  the intention was to capture Christmas spirit audience of some kind? You're right?
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  Do you think like people in Australia watch it in like August? Right?
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  Yeah, Like that's weird, Yeah Australia people. Well some some info.
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  Rhea is going to do the synopsis, but I got some some numbers,
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  some factoids, okay, So yeah. I was mentioned released December eleventh,
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  nineteen ninety eight. It had a budget anywhere from forty to eighty five million
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  dollars. That's the only film. It's It's like there's there's two things that
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  say otherwise. I did a quick Google search on that last night too,
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  and I could not find an accurate number, So I'm like, I'm not
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  even gonna bring it up forty million either way. The box office had thirty
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  four point six million, So this was a flop big time. It seems
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  like a popular movie, like a well known movie, for being such a
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  flop. Yeah, yeah, I know, it's super weird. Yeah,
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  sort of cult thing going. Yeah. So it's written by Mark Stephen Johnson,
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  who also wrote Grumpy Old Men, Simon Birch, and then the two
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  thousands uh superhero films Daredevil and Ghostwriter. It's directed by Troy Miller, who
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  also directed Dumb and Dumber, err and countless stand up specials. Taglines for
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  this film included, He's the world's coolest day and he's going to prove it,
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  damn it, okay, or Jack Frost is getting a second chance to
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  be the world's coolest dad if he doesn't melt first. Yeah. That's really
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  dark, so and really long. Like yeah, I'll save trivia for after
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  the review and also ratings, but I have some of that too. Singing'd
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  be fun if we all thought of like a funny little call thing for this
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  movie. But mine is going to be a really cool dad. So Jack
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  Frost, it'll melt your heart or something that's not a good It seems like
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  he's gonna die that way he does die. Yeah, yeah, this is
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  a good movie to watch with your kids. I mean, there's a line
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  in the film that's like the perfect tagline. I don't know why they didn't
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  ye, yeah, it's now dad better than no Dad. Yeah, I
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  don't know what that well, Okay, when we get there, I'm so
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  confused on that part. I don't understand why they said that. I just
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  you know, somebody wrote that, right, I have this genius line right?
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  Any other things before we want to talk about before diving into this,
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  uh, this film. I didn't want to sign any adjectives yet. I
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  can't really think of any. I just remember as a kid, the scary
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  Jack Frost was always right next to this. So I wonder if maybe that's
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  the reason I watch it too. That came out a year before this film.
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  Oh see, so yeah, maybe some conscious I was like, I
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  don't know, I don't want to get the wrong one. Maybe I don't
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  know, but I've never seen this movie it's crazy. Yeah, yeah,
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  yeah. I also was always trying to avoid like which one, but you
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  could tell because the other one had a like that cool hologram cover. It
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  really worked out that his name was Jack Frost like that if it was like
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  like Bobby Miller whatever right now, like that wouldn't or like name was like
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  I don't know, Hank Child Moluster, A whole different story would have been
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  this sound he was smoking. He was plotting these two Fast the snow Man
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  this is a Southern side. He was red snow, reddy n alright.
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  So we start with the band uh and the opening song goes. It's pretty
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  much just a traditional rendition on Frosty the Snowman, but in the style of
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  blues he was. The lyrics as follows, Frosty the Snowman was a jolly,
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  happy soul. He was smoking his pipe. Baby. His two eyes
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  were made of coal, and Frosty the Snowman is a fairy tale. They
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  say he was made of ice and snow, then he came to life one
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  day. Frosty the Snowman was bad as bad he could be, and the
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  children say he could laugh and play just the same as you and me.
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  There must have been some magic in that air that night, or that old
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  silk hat they found for when they laid it upon his head, he began
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  to hoochikoo around and then Frosty this snowman is a fairy till they say anyway,
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  apparently this was just like the best rendition of Frosty the Snowman ever,
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  because some guy was like, they're jegging it, they're loving it. We
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  gotta sign these guys. And I don't barely understand that. That ar guy
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  was like, hey, you know how every blue song does like basically the
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  same riff. Yeah, these guys are doing that same riff. We have
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  to sign them. In nineteen ninety eight, when blues was really big,
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  I was telling Ria like, white people, blues is the worst genre possible,
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  Like it's so embarrassing, like secondhand embarrassment, cringe. I hate it.
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  And then also that guy, that guy is Dweezl Zappa. Yeah,
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  yeah, crazy right, yeah, yeah, who's the friend is he that?
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  They were like, hey, do you want to It's like fine,
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  okay, So that's the first scene. Then we go to Medford, Colorado,
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  which actually does not exist, and we get our first snowball fight.
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  After the ending of school, and for some reason we have like D Day
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  sound effects, like there's a helicopter and bombing noises. Yeah right, all
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  right, the phrase here, what's going on? Seventh graders have us pinned
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  down and now they've pulled out the heavy artillery. So so we get the
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  fight between the seventh graders and the rest of the general, a great rest
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  of the grades. Charlie, who's our protagonist, is sent to help Alexander,
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  and he says, if you want to stop an army, you have
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  to stop the general. Which is this an actual saying? Do you know?
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  I have no idea where this is. They're like, He's like,
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  uh, this we learned this in class, like class. That part did
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  make me laugh. That goes, do you guys remember what we learned in
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  history now? Uh? Uh no, that part there was a few parts
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  I actually maybe laugh remember than a history class? Right? No, not
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  really. Ah, if you want to stop an army, stop at general.
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  And up until this point, if I was a child, I'd be
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  like, this movie's gonna fucking rock because that was a fun scene for like
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  a kid, like that snowball fight all the kids like, because that doesn't
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  really happen well maybe in places where it's snow snows, but there's like forty
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  or fifty kids all playing together, like that would be a blast if you're
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  a child. Yeah. True, I saw it as adult sadly. Yeah.
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  So Rory is the general and he confronts Charlie, but he ends up
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  with a snowball to the face. Overall, it's an underwhelming setup between these
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  two nemeses hanging with the second graders. Now, get off for I got
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  a present for you. Good. I like presents, you say, fee
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  Freeze reading out Charlie at the end of it, rock you okay, yeah,
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  goodness, Thanks Charlie, You're amazing, no problem, And then we
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  get hands in betrayed Me. We cut to Charlie's house and why is Chester
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  the dog outside? It's really oh yeah yeah yeah, the dog is just
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  lives outside in the snow. It's not good snow dog. Also, the
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  scenes when Charlie's walking home, like how far away? How how long is
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  that trek home? Yeah? Right, because then they have the second snowball
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  fight that's like literally two feet behind his back. Yeah, I don't know.
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  So Jack arrives home late, and Jack and Charlie and Chester because he's
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  outside make a snowman and they have a family snowball fight. Jack gives Charlie
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  a harmonica that he got on the day Charlie was born. He says it's
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  really old, but Charlie is only eleven, so it's not that old.
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  All right. You gonna know where I got it. I got that Good
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  Morning you were born, Harry yep, little music store right across the street
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  from the hospital. Walked out in a great mood, bought myself that harmonica.
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  And I've never had a harmonicause I played better than that one, my
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  favorite one. That it's yours. Thanks, You're welcome. I go to
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  sleep, so won't you go to sleep. Charlie asks him to go to
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  the hockey game against their art tribals, The Devil at four pm. Jack
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  says he'll be there after the band record in the studio. He says he'll
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  be there. He never promises him he'll be there. He just says,
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  I'll be there as a promise. I'll be there, like that's a commitment.
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  As was right, it's his favorite harmonica. Yes, So as he's
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  leaving, he tells Charlie that the harmonica is magical and whatever Charlie plays it
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  wherever Jack is, he'll hear it. Jack and Gabby have a little intimate
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  moment. She asks him to sing her smile, bring me the other one,
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  my son, time I die, take off your boots, which is
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  dumb. And so the lyrics are every time we say goodbye, I die
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  a little. I've never heard of this song in my entire life, and
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  I just blows, I've heard it, but yeah, it's weird. The
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  best part of it is that he cannot sing. Oh no, he he's
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  about to be signed. Yeah, anyway, So what do what do we
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  think of this seventh? The U singing about the Snowman is kind of I
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  know it was intentional, but that's like, whoa, that's like gonna be
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  about I bet he's in turned of the Snowman. I didn't know that they
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  were singing that Snowman song, Like, I didn't know it was about it.
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  I wasn't. Yeah, I just thought of some blue song there played.
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  I had no clue, So you read the lyrics, just nothing.
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  And then when I saw the opening credits, I was I said one of
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  it. I looked up because I was doing something and I looked up and
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  it said Andy Lawrence, and I was like, I hope that's Andy Lawrence
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  and it was and one of the Lawrence brothers, not my favorite, least
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  favorite, but whatever, he stole Lawrence brother And then and it's funny that
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  Rio said D day when it comes to that snowball fight, because I literally
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  was. I wrote that was more intense than the opening of Saving Private Run.
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  It was like, I mean, they should have like it would have
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  been funny if like kids were like carrying another kid on a gurney or something.
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  Yeah, okay, okay, yeah, go ahead, you go out,
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  you got things. No, I was gonna say, like, just
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  Charlie needs to calm the fuck down. Don't go into a snowball fight and
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  just act like a little bitch, like go hardcore. The other guy who's
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  the bully, he's it's a snowball fight. I don't know. I just
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  a little morey with that. Yeah, And I've only been in like a
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  few snowball fights. And they're with Gabe's older brother and his older brother's friends,
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  and they used to pack that shit. Yeah, so fucking tight because
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  they were like four or five years old, and so they're kind of picking
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  on that's fine, but I hated that ship. It was not fun.
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  Are not fun? Yeah. What I don't get is like this band needs
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  to be signed and picked up. But they have like the most elaborate stage
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  set up with that massive Jack Frost banner. They have like weird merch like
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  all throughout the movie, like they're apparently very big, So I don't yeah
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  exactly. And then a little bit I'm not sure if we actually touched on
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  it yet, but oh, well, did he come back from missing yet
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  from the recording? No, we're not there yet. But there's like a
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  scene later where Charlie's like looking at this shovel and it's wrapped in like Jack
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  Frost tape, like Jack Frost band tape, Like what what? What are
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  they? Like? What kind of merchants? Oh? I saw that,
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  but I saw Frost. I thought it feel like they're selling shovels at the
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  concert, so like, what else would that be? So this is what
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  I thought. I thought he got mad when his dad died, so he
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  cut his hockey stick into a shovel, and I was like, all right,
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  sticks either way, very elaborate merged for like an indie band or like
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  a local band. Yeah, I mean the radio announcer does say like Denver's
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  best kept secret or something, but it's just like, yeah, yeah,
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  what's going on in Denver? Like that, I'm worried about Denver? Yeah,
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  yes. Also, this is like not anywhere close to what like Denver
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  would look like. I know, this is Medford, Colorado, and it's
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  not like a place that exists, but like I think it's supposed to be
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  adjacent Denver. Jason, I'm like, there's no way this looks like I
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  always I kind of picture, like, you know, a smaller town like
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  outside of Portland, so like maybe like a Kaiser, That's what I was
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  picturing in my head. The Kaiser doesn't even look like that, right,
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  yeah, yeah, but it looks like eleven Worth, like yeah, oh
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  yeah, oh yeah, beautiful little Yeah. Uh does he have to do
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  this every time he plays a showy? Has to like get a gift,
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  fucking sing to the wife, do a man in the midnight, like every
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  fucking time like that. That's exhausting. Yeah, like that's insane. Yeah
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  yeah, I don't know. Yeah, maybe just like around the holidays,
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  like he should be home, but he's he's he's busy, you know,
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  but he tours a lot I mean like on his sanat Jack Frost tour bus
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  or wherever they were, like twenty dates on there. To be fair,
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  the wife does like say like I don't care if if you if you have
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  to do all these things, but don't like tell him you're gonna be there,
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  you know, like don't make commitments like that's reasonable. Yeah. Yeah,
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  but she is also kind of to blame though, because if he's a
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  eleven, that means was that ninety or eighty seven he was born pretty sure
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  pro choice was around in eighty seven. He didn't ask to be alive,
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  So she is just as much to blame just saying speaking of ages. So
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  I did the research. So Kelly Preston, who plays the mom beautiful,
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  I didn't know who she was, Like, yeah, she passed away,
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  Oh really in real life? Yeah, she had breast cancer, super sad.
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  She was married to John Shivolta. Yeah, she must have been face
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  touched face waterfall. Well she was. So she was only thirty six when
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  this movie, when this movie came out, and then Michael Keaton was forty
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  seven. Oh damn, that's too much of an age difference, I think,
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  in my opinion. And that was all I had really had to say
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  about that, But is this kind of all the downward trend of Michael Keaton?
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  Yes, okay, yeah, yeah, like for a while, right
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  like until Birdman basically, but like this, he he had a resurgence like
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  that, who's that other U? That really disgusting old man that I don't
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  like? The rock No in that movie? Wait, hold on, hold
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  on, hold on, hold on, hold on, he's in that movie.
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  I can't remember. I don't like him anyways, Okay, I can't
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  remember his name, Okay, anyways, and then oh when they okay,
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  last other thought was when Michael Keaton and the little boy are doing the snowman,
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  like making a snowman. I was just imagining. So Jackson was kind
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  of in and out watching this, which is this is a great movie to
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  watch with your kid to like guilt them into loving you more. Like me
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  and him make like inappropriate like we make like uh snowman with snow people with
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  like big old titties and stuff like that, so that'd be so great.
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  And then uh, the scene with him and uh Kelly Preston felt like softcore
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  porn. Like the beginning of it. I was like, wow, yeah,
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  that's you had this when you had the thought because I was like,
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  well, watching it, I was gonna say, like, it's weird doing
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  like kids movies when like they imply that the parents are gonna hunt because like
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  it's just in a little bit, you know, you're just like, oh,
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  weird, Like you know, do they use protection? I don't.
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  It's so fucking weird. I don't. Yeah, I mean they have they
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  have very little actual screen time with Kevin or Michael Keaton right in the in
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  these opening scenes and then he's he's not he's nowhere in the movie, but
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  their voice acting. So I'm sure they had to drive something home that,
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  like you know, he does actually love his wife, even though like later
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  on, like it really but the scene fell out of place. It was
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  like two yeah, yeah, I didn't connect. Not amazing set up.
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  Yeah, I do love. He doesn't make much money being in a band
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  because like the Mighty Mighty Bostones, they stopped touring because there's like nine of
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  them in the band, which it looks similar to the blues band, right
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  they have a fiddle player, like why yeah, and then Mighty Mighty Bostones
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  stopped playing because they can't make money on tour because there's too many of them,
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  and they had like number one hits and they were on Warped Tour,
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  you know what I mean. They were a pretty big band, and so
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  this band, I guess he's still trying to make it big. But anyway,
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  yeah, yeah, I did love the setup of his relationship. He
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  seems like he has a really good relationship with his son. Yeah, Like
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  I love how he's like really intentional speaking like talking to his son, like
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  comes in and like sits on his bed and it's just very friends like and
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  I appreciated that. Charlie, Yeah, yeah, But going off of that,
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  Jack doesn't know who Charlie's hockey coaches, so like, even though he
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  may have real conversations with him, like, he has no idea what his
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  life is like. So Jack shows Charlie the j shot, but doesn't have
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  any time to teach him. We cut to the hockey game sis Sid says,
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  Sid says that the first period is over, but then tells him to
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  have a good game, which I thought was really odd, like, uh,
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  they lose eight to zero. And between this, we're cutting back and
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  forth to the studio that Jack is at, and these are the lyrics to
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  the song that they're singing. I get confused, baby, I get confused
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  and so upset. I get scared, Baby, I get so scared I
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  start to sweat. Ooh, I'm somewhere in the middle, not remotely in
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  the center of it all. Don't lose your faith in me, baby,
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  Just lean a little my way. You know, sometimes it's going to get
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  dark. Baby, Wrap your arms around me. I got a big strong
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  neck, hold on tight. Here we go. Don't lose your faith in
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  me, baby, Just lean a little my way. And that's like also
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  paired with the hockey montage the game, right, Yeah, so it's just
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  it doesn't really make sense for hockey. Yeah, it's like a love song
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  between him and his wife like it should have. There should have been more
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  like a montage of like her, like around the house, like alone,
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  you know, comparatively to that song. Some trivia, Michael Keaton co wrote
• 23:49
  the intro and that song. Well it shows and it's Henry Wallins as the
• 23:56
  fucking coat. Yeah yeah, yeah, that coach is amazing. Love that
• 24:02
  his little speech was like pretty amazing. Yeah, Okay, first periods behind
• 24:08
  us, forget about it. God knows I'm gonna try. Look, I
• 24:14
  know you're just kids, and we're really here to teach you about fair play
• 24:18
  and sportsmanship and all that crap. But I am so tired of looking up
• 24:23
  at that scoreboard and seeing that we're behind the devils again and again and again,
• 24:33
  leaned up dead. History is made by winners, conquerors, barbarians.
• 24:45
  Now I want you to go out there and wipe the ice with their filthy
• 24:49
  boss. All right, play clean, have a good game. Uh yeah
• 24:57
  like that. He nails his role in this film. Yeah yeah, all
• 25:00
  right. So Jack gets home from the studio past six point thirty again,
• 25:04
  the dog is outside. Gabby yells at him for promising to come, which
• 25:10
  he didn't do. He didn't promise again last night? Oh why'd you go
• 25:18
  and do that? Jack? Look, I don't know how many times if
• 25:22
  I told you, if you're not going to be there, don't say you're
• 25:25
  going to be there. Do you know how I knew you promised him?
• 25:27
  He kept looking at me up in the stands, and after about I don't
• 25:30
  know the fortieth time, I realized he expected you to be there. Jack.
• 25:37
  I don't care if you get too busy or you flake out on me.
• 25:41
  Well I care, but you know I chose it. I married you.
• 25:45
  I'll deal with it. He didn't choose this, Jack. One of
• 25:48
  these days, Charlie's going to score his first goal and you won't see it,
• 25:52
  just like you never saw him with the measles, or or the time
• 25:56
  he jammed the figmutes into the fly projector you know. Those things all happened
• 26:00
  once then they're gone, don't Jack? You said enough? Jack apologizes to
• 26:04
  Charlie for missing the game and explains that his dream has always been to be
• 26:07
  a great musician and to make a nice life for his family, but that
• 26:11
  comes at the expense of him being a selfish jerk. He then throws out
• 26:15
  the idea of going up to the cabin at Pine Top for Christmas if they're
• 26:18
  suppor I don't understand how they own a cabin. You know you always wanted
• 26:25
  to be the next Wayne Gretzky. Well, I always had a dream too,
• 26:30
  ever, since I was about your age. I just I really wanted
• 26:33
  to be a great musician. I just wanted to be a real player.
• 26:37
  I wanted to be able to make a living doing what I love, and
• 26:41
  I really want to make a nice living for you and me and Mom.
• 26:47
  Okay, here's an idea. I'm thinking about this one before all. You
• 26:52
  me, Mom. We go to the cabin at the Pine Top. We
• 26:56
  have a real Christmas vacation, just us, no phone, TV, no
• 27:00
  band, nothing, Three Thigs really yes. But as they're getting ready to
• 27:04
  leave the next morning, Jack gets a call from Kaplan and says that says
• 27:10
  they have to play this set in Aspen on Christmas at the like at the
• 27:15
  music producer's house. Yeah, for like a party. Yeah yeah. So
• 27:21
  he figures he can drive to Aspen and make it back to Pine Top Christmas
• 27:25
  evening. There are one hundred and forty seven miles from Aspen and one hundred
• 27:27
  and ninety nine miles from Denver. When Jack makes the decision to turn back,
• 27:32
  so roughly like a two hour two three hour drive, So it doesn't
• 27:36
  seem that terrible. I feel like he could have I don't know, I
• 27:40
  feel like he could have just made the drive or stay the night or gone
• 27:44
  that night before or something like it. Just it's not great. Uh.
• 27:47
  So he takes Max's car when he turns around, but he gets caught in
• 27:52
  a snowstorm without windshield wipers, which, like I was just really I was
• 27:57
  really disappointed because I felt like he could have just pulled over and waited the
• 28:02
  storm out, but he doesn't. He just dies. I want to go
• 28:04
  back, just to Tad. And I think both Gabby and Charlie are being
• 28:08
  unreasonable for being mad at him. It's not like you have to play a
• 28:12
  whole set. They can tell what you sound like after a few songs.
• 28:15
  Get out of there. Well, maybe I could borrow Max car, I
• 28:18
  could drive back that way. I can back by Christmas night. But you
• 28:22
  know what, I'm gonna miss Christmas Day for sure? What's this? I
• 28:30
  guess I don't want because this is the break, Like this is the thing
• 28:40
  that they've been like at least eleven years trying to make happen, and like
• 28:45
  if he, if he nails this gig, then their lives are forever changed.
• 28:51
  And I just like, you know, like they're like Charlie throws the
• 28:53
  biggest fit over this, and like, yeah, I got of course Gabby's
• 28:57
  upset because Charlie's upset, But I mean, like, like this is it,
• 29:00
  Like we could we could spend Christmas like two days later and just celebrating
• 29:04
  the Yeah, Christmas doesn't have to be on Christmas. And I thought for
• 29:07
  a moment that when Charlie gave where ever there yet. Yeah, when Charlie
• 29:11
  gave the harmonica to his dad, I was like, good for you kid.
• 29:15
  I thought he was like, use this magical harmonica for good. But
• 29:18
  I wasn't thinking, like I know the Indians of this movie, that's not
• 29:22
  how it's gonna go. But now they were being a little bitches. I
• 29:25
  agree with you. I can see both ways because especially being eleven years old,
• 29:29
  the day before he missed your like big game, you know, after
• 29:33
  he didn't promise, but he said he'd be there, So I could see
• 29:34
  why he's upset. But being eleven years old, you should also know like
• 29:38
  like and my dad just had this conversation with me that this is his goal
• 29:42
  in life, and you know what I mean. So yeah, it's right
• 29:45
  on the fence of the age to where I do think he was acting like
• 29:48
  a little kind of looks spoiled, but I can see why he's upset.
• 29:52
  And speaking of goals, Charlie's never made a goal, so that like if
• 29:56
  he was like an all star, this is his championship. No he's not.
• 30:00
  He's gonna stuck and embarrassed the dad. So no, I think that
• 30:03
  no, I think Charlie is an embarrassment. I think, uh, the
• 30:07
  mom Kelly Preston, I think that she's gonna go on to better things,
• 30:11
  not the whole dying thing, but like she's gonna go on and marry John
• 30:14
  Travolta. So we're good. Yeah. And then when Michael Keat comes back
• 30:18
  from the studio, he keeps lugging around this guitar case, but he's not
• 30:22
  playing guitar. Why he just plays Yeah, you don't need it unless he's
• 30:26
  like, hey, guys, I brought an extra guitar guitarist one. I
• 30:30
  mean, he reasonably like could he be the composer of the band, and
• 30:33
  he just writes songs on his own? Yeah, I guess, yeah,
• 30:36
  yeah, borrow somebody. I don't know. I'm gonna wait. If he's
• 30:40
  like that, probably musician, he probably should own a guitar. Yeah,
• 30:42
  but if you're at the studio, maybe it's an observation. If we have
• 30:48
  only seen him play one time though, so maybe there's other songs where he's
• 30:52
  like, you know, if the prop person's listening, you really fucked up.
• 30:56
  When Kelly Preston is like ripping him a new one and about missing all
• 31:00
  the blah blah blah, Like how she mentions like that he got like the
• 31:03
  measles and like he missed that. I like that, like you weren't here
• 31:07
  when he got the measles, like these only happened once, Like like,
• 31:11
  oh my god, what's he going to do? And they're trying so hard
• 31:15
  because it's I feel like it's really close to making us care about these characters,
• 31:18
  but they just didn't. Like when Michael Keaton's talking to his son like
• 31:22
  going like, hey, this is my I'm like that's really cool because he's
• 31:25
  being open with him. He's telling him like, hey, this is my
• 31:26
  goal in life. I thought that was really cool, but it just wasn't.
• 31:30
  They just they were close, they just did not hit it. I
• 31:32
  feel like, yeah, I think that. I think that's that was an
• 31:33
  interesting I thought he was like a fucking asshole when I was watching it for
• 31:37
  saying that. But just because you're a parent doesn't mean that you're non children
• 31:41
  goals, yea, Like look at Ali and Rhea, they have five kids.
• 31:47
  You've never heard one thing about it. We never heard about them.
• 31:51
  Well we do. Cut when it's like yeah, all right, so fast
• 32:00
  forward a year. We're reminded again that Charlie's rival Rory doesn't have a father.
• 32:05
  Charlie has a breakdown while he's shoveling snow, and his mom tries to
• 32:07
  cheer him up by dumping all the marshmallows on Charlie's hot cocos. Yes,
• 32:12
  sorry, oh we passed. Like probably the best line of this whole film
• 32:15
  was that, so when he's like leaving school and there's another snowball and those
• 32:20
  kids like Rory and the bullies are like, they like go to pick on
• 32:23
  him, and then they stop. And what that kid says, bro,
• 32:28
  your big butt? Heead forget it, Rory. He's not going to pick
• 32:32
  on anymore. It's so Amanda, Yeah, time he gets over it.
• 32:37
  I never even met mile Man. Yeah what then the bullet goes, well
• 32:45
  he has to over it because my I don't. I've never even met my
• 32:49
  dad. So was so was the bully bullying on Charlie to get him over
• 32:53
  like this the morning of his dad? Which then I'm like, was he
• 32:57
  doing something bad for a good reason? They? That's like how like that
• 33:02
  line delivery is like kind of how you know my dad is dead? Because
• 33:07
  like you know, like this the car crash, like maybe he's still alive,
• 33:08
  but he's like like para, I don't know. But yeah. Now
• 33:15
  it's a year later and Charlie's sad, and then the kid goes, yeah,
• 33:16
  he's no fun that his dad's dead. Like that's how we find out
• 33:21
  that he actually died. Yeah, the only time I've been in Denver.
• 33:23
  Actually they're a blizzard started on top of a mountain when I'm working my way
• 33:28
  down and you couldn't see shit, and I was completely out of washer fluid,
• 33:32
  so like we were afraid to pull over because so many cars are coming.
• 33:37
  We're like, well, if we pull over, we might get hit
• 33:38
  from behind because everybody's going to a certain a mound. It was really hard
• 33:40
  to see. So then we're like, well, let's pee in our fucking
• 33:44
  windshield wiper thing to get some kind of and we finally made it down to
• 33:47
  Denver. But it was probably the scariest moment, Like it was so fucking
• 33:51
  scary. How did you get the pee in the windshielding? Oh you had
• 33:53
  to stand and like try to do the best you can. You should have
• 33:57
  used to cop and pete into it and then pour dead. I don't know
• 34:00
  if we had a cup, But that would have been a great idea.
• 34:02
  We might have had a cup. I don't know. Yeah, it was
• 34:05
  a while ago, but it's really scary. Oh yeah, that's not the
• 34:07
  point of the story. You were sorry, I get it. Side,
• 34:13
  I wish that. I think it's spoiler alert. But like Jack Frost turns
• 34:16
  into a scare not a scar for snowman. It would be cool if like
• 34:21
  he got into a car accident his body went through the windshield or whatever and
• 34:25
  hit a snowman and then the harmonica played and then that turned him like e
• 34:30
  merged him and a snowman together. Okay, because I don't I don't understand
• 34:37
  why he turns into snowman. I think it's because I don't know why did
• 34:43
  he turn into the snowman though, Yeah, I think it's because his hat
• 34:45
  and his scarf and they put it on there. And then when Charlie remade
• 34:50
  the snowman, he used that same material. Yeah, oh all right,
• 34:55
  I get But still, even Jack Frost, the character goes man, good
• 34:59
  thing. My name is Jack far you know. That's why it's not like
• 35:00
  not like like like like douche or yeah, Doug Douche. Uh So Mac
• 35:08
  is in charge of watching Charlie while his mom goes to do some Christmas shopping.
• 35:15
  Mac falls asleep, and so Charlie and Chester again go out to make
• 35:20
  a snowman to Landslide, which I don't really understand that music choice. Poor
• 35:25
  Chester looks like he's freezing. Uh. We get some slow most shots of
• 35:30
  Charlie putting Jack's scarf and hat on the snowman. At the bottom of the
• 35:34
  box of snowman supplies, he finds the harmonica, which I don't understand how
• 35:37
  that harmonica got back either, since he gave it to Jack to go,
• 35:42
  so I don't I don't know what happened anyway. Uh, he plays it
• 35:45
  and will ah Snowman alive. Jack says he's home and doesn't really seem to
• 35:50
  have an awareness that he's dead. But then he says that it's enough that
• 35:53
  he got his ticket punched, but to come back as a snowman is embarrassing.
• 35:58
  So I'm not really quite sure if he knows what he what happened or
• 36:00
  not. But then he has a run in with said Gronik, which was
• 36:06
  a really weird scene, and he talks about like going through the stages of
• 36:09
  denial of stages of grief, and it didn't really make sense because he says,
• 36:15
  like, I got upset with Sid and so that's my anger period.
• 36:19
  But he didn't really take it out on Sid or do anything. It was
• 36:22
  just a weird thing. Yeah, okay, Yeah, he's he's describing the
• 36:27
  stages of grief, which would go way over the head of a kid,
• 36:30
  right right, Like he doesn't even he doesn't even like specify that he's talking
• 36:32
  about this five stages of griefs. He just immediately starts with, well that
• 36:36
  was denial now and now yeah, anyway, Yeah, the whole thing's kind
• 36:39
  of strange. There are some like one liners though that he's hitting right now,
• 36:45
  And up until this moment, I'm still really liking this movie. Not
• 36:49
  really, it's all my favorites, but up until his mom like alright,
• 36:52
  like I'm enjoying it. When he goes just that casual when he's like the
• 36:57
  snowman, I thought that was funny, Like I thought that was like,
• 37:00
  okay cool, just you know, just that casual. I thought it was
• 37:00
  funny, and I was like, was that c G I at first,
• 37:05
  I don't know how they made that snow That snowman looked real sh Jim Henson
• 37:12
  Studio. Oh, because there's times where I'm like, is that Like I
• 37:15
  was like, it kind of looks animated, but it doesn't. And there's
• 37:16
  some scenes where it looks just horrible, but there's somewhere looks really freaking good.
• 37:22
  Yeah. Andy, did you catch the voice on the TV? I
• 37:27
  have a whole thing about that guy. Yeah. So it's David Cross.
• 37:30
  Yeah. And then Jay Johnston is the weather man in there. Paul F.
• 37:32
  Tompkins is an audience member in there. So why is like half of
• 37:37
  Mister Show in here? So the director of this also directed Mister Show.
• 37:40
  Aha, that's why in this film in some capacity he was arrested for the
• 37:47
  January six riots. The weather man isn't that crazy? He's all crazy right
• 37:51
  wing? Now? Yeah? Yeah, so yeah, Max babysitting, Charlie
• 37:57
  builds a snowman. Max leaps to the whole thing, snow man comes to
• 38:00
  life, Charlie freaks out, and yeah, and then that's exactly what I
• 38:06
  just said. I'm just recapping reaping. My RecA goes downtown and goes around
• 38:14
  the town and then comes back and except that he's so we should do we
• 38:17
  should do a bonus episode where Ali recaps this episode and then well and then
• 38:22
  we'll have the Jeff version after that. I was really high recap. Yeah,
• 38:27
  like the beats aren't like, oh my god, this is you know,
• 38:31
  the Landslide's a weird choice. I just like, I'm not like to
• 38:37
  engage with this film at this point. I think I think if they would
• 38:39
  have I'm super super protective of Fleetwood Macy, like I think, I think
• 38:44
  every time they're the bessest band in my opinion. And I remember watching this
• 38:49
  when I was little and I was like, oh, fuck this ship and
• 38:52
  then off or however I talked back in and but now we're watching I think
• 38:55
  if they would have, uh edited a little bit different under the storytelling and
• 39:00
  better because the song is about you know, changing and going to the next
• 39:04
  stage of your life. Like if they would have added more about him becoming
• 39:07
  like the mayor of the house or something like that, that would have been
• 39:10
  maybe. But I was super fucking crying though, when uh, I don't
• 39:15
  really cry, like maybe shaved a couple of tears, that's as much as
• 39:17
  I did. But when he's like shoveling the snow and his mom and they
• 39:22
  were holding each other was like, oh my god, and it said I
• 39:24
  teared up a little bit when he was doing the Snowman, or when he
• 39:28
  was inside and he saw the other family doing the Snowman and like yeah,
• 39:30
  and he was kind of happy, but he was also that sense of loss,
• 39:32
  like when he lose a parent, and I was like, oh fuck.
• 39:35
  They portrayed that pretty damn good. Yeah, And then if I this
• 39:37
  happened to me the more realistic movie I come back as a snowman, the
• 39:42
  whole time, I'd be like screaming, like I'd be so terrified. Like
• 39:46
  snowman, he is so chill with it, chill, but he he's like
• 39:52
  automatically like reincarnated or whatever. And it's like set with like a bunch of
• 39:57
  puns about being a snowman. I think, yeah, some of them are
• 40:00
  funny, but then it starts getting too much. I think he accepts it
• 40:02
  because he realizes he messed up, like he sees I like Jack Frost,
• 40:08
  the character sees it as a punishment for his life. His really mess up
• 40:14
  in my opinion though, Sure, but he also missed Charlie's game, like
• 40:17
  he was he was kind of a you know, he wasn't there for everything
• 40:20
  for Charlie, and so like I think he like feels bad and it's like
• 40:22
  he feels like this is his atonement for that, but it's also really shitty
• 40:27
  because it's like because it's like like, yeah, parents are shitty, like
• 40:30
  parents generally miss important. Mind, he's also dead and this is like they're
• 40:37
  they're you know, like he's like, if I were to come back somehow,
• 40:39
  like I guess this is how it's gonna have to be. Like he
• 40:43
  he seems to like come to terms with all of that and accept it pretty
• 40:45
  quickly. But that my fly, is that he doesn't, at least unless
• 40:50
  I completely missed it. He doesn't really like help Charlie through anything or accomplish
• 40:54
  anything. And he definitely doesn't like make amends with his wife or like a
• 40:59
  try to connect with her. Well that's the thing that was kind of confused
• 41:02
  about why he didn't. At first, he didn't want to talk to anybody,
• 41:05
  but then he decided to talk to Sid for some reason. I'm like,
• 41:07
  well, why don't you talk to your son and your wife? At
• 41:09
  first, Charlie, but Charlie freaks out. But at the very beginning he's
• 41:15
  like, Okay, I can't do anything, so then like, so,
• 41:16
  yeah, I talks Charlie a little bit. Then he goes to town and
• 41:19
  talks to Sid but won't talk to his wife until the very end. But
• 41:22
  at this point I thought his wife was actually on a date, and I
• 41:27
  thought the movie was going to be high jinks of him trying to like mess
• 41:30
  up the date between them. I thought, oh that Mac was going to
• 41:34
  be his new dad. Yeah, yeah, oh so I kind of got
• 41:37
  that near the end. But then I thought the movie was going to be
• 41:38
  like, uh, it turns out the guy that she's dating actually is a
• 41:42
  really good guy. And then he's like, you know what, I can't
• 41:45
  be there for her. At least he's going to be a good dad.
• 41:46
  That's where I thought it was going. But the plot is he's she's dating
• 41:50
  as a scarecrow, and then and then there is a I know, there's
• 41:57
  not a whole like a lot of connection between Michael Keaton and the husband and
• 42:01
  wife, but I did read that. I did read that there's some deleted
• 42:06
  scenes where he does see his wife as a snowman and he takes a carrot
• 42:12
  near his crop and just like funcks the shit out of her. He makes
• 42:15
  a stew In that PoCA comes up. Yeah, I just want to know
• 42:20
  what everyone thinks. The setup was too long? Yeah, I want to
• 42:23
  know what everyone thinks. Is Charlie a good kid actor? Yes? Yeah,
• 42:28
  Yeah. There's moments where I'm like, pretty good, but there's awesome
• 42:30
  moments where I'm like, well he is a kid. But for a kid
• 42:32
  actor, I'll give him like a seven out of ten. For children normal
• 42:37
  acting, I'll say probably like a four. Oh, Bill Murray, That's
• 42:38
  what I don't like. I think he was. He was like usually kid
• 42:44
  actors, I'm like, oh my god, I hate that, don't want
• 42:45
  to kill them. But but this guy, I didn't want to like.
• 42:47
  He was fine. She was so so I don't think Kelly Press what what
• 42:52
  was she known for? She was in Jerry Maguire, Oh that's it.
• 42:55
  I mean, she's Battle scar. She doesn't have to do much for this
• 42:59
  film, like they could have had anybody play her. That's what I'm saying
• 43:04
  though, Like it's not like a huge role. Yeah, I think Charlie
• 43:07
  the actor really carried this movie. Like he well, he should be the
• 43:10
  focus, right right, But I'm but I mean, like everybody else kind
• 43:14
  of phoned it in yeah, and and I think he really like I like
• 43:19
  this movie because of Charlie's reactions and his perspective versus like Jex I thought the
• 43:25
  dad's friend to get to the English student. I like that actor. Yeah,
• 43:30
  yeah, he's still standing show I watched for a little bit. It's
• 43:34
  like, well, there's like a like a chubby guy and like a like
• 43:36
  a hot girl. But she looks the actress who this doesn't matter. The
• 43:39
  actress who plays the wife in that show is like an ugly Terry Hatcher and
• 43:45
  she's the she's the fiance real will know, uh the fiance and twister.
• 43:52
  Oh okay, yeah, this has nothing to do with said Terry Hatcher.
• 43:54
  My my head was like for Margaret Thatcher and I was like what. I
• 44:00
  was like, whoa, that's a crazy jump. Alright, No, but
• 44:05
  this movie, I think to this point, I'm I'm fan of it.
• 44:07
  Yeah, as of right now, I'm still enjoying. I'm chilling it.
• 44:10
  Jeremy was over like bit shocking the whole time. And this is a good
• 44:15
  movie. It's not like it's not al Capone Jill Frost. That could be
• 44:21
  the fucking sequel, like The Mom and the and then the Mom ends up
• 44:25
  till Frost. You know, they have Jacket off and Jill off. When
• 44:30
  when Jack Frost came back, he shouldn't he should have just like held charged.
• 44:40
  They can't take me back if you're with me only the entire time.
• 44:46
  Okay. The next morning, Charlie threatens Jack with a hair dryer. Jack
• 44:50
  reveals himself as Charlie said, and Charlie flees like five ft out of his
• 44:54
  backyard to a huge mountain where the kids are once again having a still moll
• 44:59
  mite. Natalie tells Rory that seventy five percent of our prison population is made
• 45:04
  up of bullies, which I was flabbergasted by that. Do you think it's
• 45:08
  like nine percent of people in prison are religious? And I think ninety three
• 45:13
  percent of people who are scientists in America are not religious. So do as
• 45:16
  you will. Is it a stereotype that bullies are in prison? I never
• 45:21
  heard that tell this movie. Yeah, I've never heard. This was a
• 45:23
  very like Pete and Pete fact toy kind of yeah thing. Jack inserts himself
• 45:28
  into the snowball fight without Charlie's consent, which was I think a really dick
• 45:32
  thing to do. When Jack runs out of snow, which again I don't
• 45:37
  understand how that's possible. There's snow everything like a foot Yeah, you got
• 45:44
  more snow by the old Wizard could use a little knack, Charlie. I'm
• 45:49
  out of gas yet. He and Charlie flee on a sled. A very
• 45:55
  bad CGI chase scene occurs. It has come up and and I can only
• 46:00
  assume a very bad concussion. He like nails, gets nailed with his X
• 46:07
  Games montage. Yeah uh. And Charlie is finally convinced that Jack is his
• 46:13
  dad when he calls him Charlie boy. And so it turns out Medford is
• 46:19
  in for a warm Christmas. When Gabby hears that Charlie has quit the hockey
• 46:22
  team, she asks Mac to talk to him. Jack and Charlie bond over
• 46:27
  the j shot. Jack lectures Charlie about his responsibilities now that he's a man
• 46:31
  of the house, including telling his mom to hang up Christmas lights. Yeah.
• 46:36
  I thought that was like such a petty thing, Like a single mom
• 46:39
  has to work full time and like she doesn't have time to hang the Christmas
• 46:43
  lights. Like what a dick. I was like wanssed off by that comment.
• 46:47
  I'm like, fuck you, man, because like, my favorite thing
• 46:50
  to do is I decorate the house pretty big for Christmas every year when everything
• 46:52
  fucking works. I'm saying that to myself and when the big fucking Sanna doesn't
• 46:57
  come down every day anyways. So but if I died and then somebody came
• 47:01
  back and they're like my daughter's like hey, wait no, that makes no
• 47:06
  sense, and you came back. Yeah, But then I like decorating confused
• 47:10
  if it wasn't done. I just thought it was like a way fucked up
• 47:13
  thing, like yeah, yea, she has to like work full time and
• 47:15
  take care of Charlie on like on a teller's salary. Now like yeah,
• 47:20
  she has timed like hand Christmas lights and she's probably fucking depressed. It's only
• 47:23
  been a year, right, and they don't have that sweet bar money anymore
• 47:28
  from playing bar shows exactly when? So when the when? When the when?
• 47:36
  The kid? I don't learn their Charlie is like not believing that the
• 47:39
  snowman is his dad, Like what fucking snowman would be Like you're trying to
• 47:45
  convince kids that they're doubt like snowmen do. Yeah, and then uh,
• 47:52
  what would his reason not to trust them? I would be more confused about
• 47:55
  why he's a snowman talking to me. But and then I don't forgot your
• 48:00
  apartment. Kelly Preston when she comes home and sees the snowman, and she
• 48:04
  was like fucking horny for that snow y. Wow, I guess it's been
• 48:09
  a year, but she's probably blinking. The best friend though he talks about
• 48:13
  his butt a lot as a snowman. Every notice like constant butt tog is
• 48:16
  like it's good to have a big but it's like, oh my butt's looking
• 48:20
  real like weird like comments like or like scenes or like in the in the
• 48:24
  fight scene he gets boobs for a second and like, yeah, yeah,
• 48:30
  it's interesting. It was. I don't know this is all these scenes are
• 48:34
  just really I mean, I get like, yeah, okay, big snowball
• 48:37
  fight's fun for kids, sledding scene like X Games montage, it's all it's
• 48:42
  all fun for kids, but it like inexplicably just happens, you know,
• 48:47
  like Charlie just goes along with it and just like everything's so convenient, and
• 48:52
  Jack Frost just assumes he's great at snowball fights, like but there's no background
• 48:57
  for that. Why would he be so good? Correlation is because you're a
• 49:00
  snowman, you're very good at throwing snowballs. Like what right, that'd be
• 49:02
  like me throwing like human meat around. Yeah, I guess like it would
• 49:07
  be like if a like a is a leper throwing their arm. I was
• 49:14
  just like, I think it's really shitty that he just like started this snowball
• 49:19
  fight with Rory and like didn't ask Charlie at all, like, hey,
• 49:23
  do you want help? Do you want to stand up to this guy?
• 49:25
  Like yeah, Like he's just showing off. He is, He's just showing
• 49:30
  off. I feel like that's a lot of what these scenes are, like
• 49:32
  the c g I Chase Chase scene, like he's just showing off. I
• 49:37
  think to like impressed Charlie, like hey, I am an actual cool dad,
• 49:43
  but it just doesn't seem to like connect on a personal level. There
• 49:47
  the scene with the with the skiing when they're fleeing, like I was like,
• 49:52
  damn, I'm really impressed with that. But I was also thinking this
• 49:53
  came out in the nineties, and in the nineties we had you know,
• 49:58
  two deaths that were famous people that died from skate and Natasha Richardson, who's
• 50:05
  piece himself all the time. That was in the nineties. I think it
• 50:07
  was on the I think no, no, no, no, because she
• 50:09
  was made in Manhattan, so she died in the early two thousands and made
• 50:13
  in Mantan. She's wearing a social distortion shirt. Really, and then also
• 50:16
  stars Everyone's Treasure Jaylo Manhattan maybe, and then the guy I don't know if
• 50:22
  he's Britney Murphy. Isn't she married? She died but didn't she Wasn't she
• 50:27
  married to someone? I believe. I bet she was dated. Well,
• 50:31
  there's a movie with Brittany Murphy where she's wearing a social distortion shirt. I
• 50:35
  don't know what that is. How did we get there from this movie?
• 50:38
  Okay, that Bully was really good at snowboarding, though he should focus more
• 50:44
  on that instead of Bully and Charlie. Charlie's better at ski skate scorting.
• 50:51
  So the issue that I had was jarring was they made Jack Frost have like
• 50:57
  eyeballs. Yeah, that was a little like creepy. They just had coals.
• 51:01
  Yeah, it was freaky. I didn't really notice that. Yeah,
• 51:07
  like you mean like he his eyes move, Yeah, so he had he
• 51:12
  didn't have like white in his eyes, but he had like it was like
• 51:15
  black and then brown, so you could see like his that middle I don't
• 51:19
  know what the part of the eyes are, ye iris. Yeah, yeah,
• 51:23
  you could like see he had like human eyes. They look like I
• 51:29
  guess I'm gonna have to rewatch it then, because I didn't. Yeah,
• 51:30
  I didn't at all. Yeah, he did say to his to the kid
• 51:35
  though, he's like, hey, no one can see me like this.
• 51:37
  But he spoke to Sid and he attact a bunch of children. But he's
• 51:39
  like, I'm not gonna talk about wife though I know nobody else, so
• 51:45
  everybody can see him except for his wife. Is what he should have said.
• 51:47
  While on the subject, let's just talk about how Jack Cross looks as
• 51:51
  a snowman. Yeah, just in general, right, like a very like
• 51:54
  grumpy kind of you know, frumpy face through like not a lot of expression,
• 52:00
  like his eyebrows move a bit, his mouth moves a bit, but
• 52:04
  it's like a very interesting face choice for these for these puppeteers to make him.
• 52:10
  Yeah. Yeah, sometimes he looked like really cute, like it like
• 52:14
  a kind of a mean old man that sometimes he didn't so I don't know.
• 52:17
  Also, like sometimes his his head was really disproportionate sometimes, like sometimes
• 52:23
  it looked like he had this really like sloped back of the head, and
• 52:29
  then sometimes it was more like a ball shaped. But like it just it's
• 52:32
  really it was really wide. It feels like it was like they didn't I
• 52:37
  don't. I don't understand what they were going for. This is probably a
• 52:40
  good time to just bring this up that, Like, the film was originally
• 52:44
  supposed to start George Clooney, right, and then they made this puppet after
• 52:49
  George Clooney. But it looks nothing like George Clutey. I think it looks
• 52:52
  a lot more like George Clooney than it does Michael Keaton. Yeah. Sure,
• 52:57
  but it doesn't really look like any human. I think again, I
• 53:00
  think the eyebrows he has George Clooney's eyebrows. Okay, I don't know,
• 53:06
  I did. I just the whole thing is a strange is just a strange
• 53:10
  choice for the whole thing. Yeah. Like, and this is one of
• 53:15
  the situations where I think practical effects, I think I'd rather have a c
• 53:20
  G. I snowman for this whole film. Some some of the scenes I
• 53:23
  feel like, but yeah, yeah, but I think it would have been
• 53:27
  hard to do both and have them look the same. That's true. So
• 53:35
  yeah, the only cgi I think was during the snow Chase. Yeah,
• 53:38
  yeah, why do why do snowmen wear scarves? But like, I don't
• 53:49
  know, it just didn't seem right, like they don't have any form of
• 53:52
  clothing though, Jeff, Like it's just like a morphous blob of snow,
• 53:55
  you know, yeah, the scarf like kind of like accents and like creates
• 54:00
  Like yeah, I couldn't wrap my head around that. Last night when I
• 54:04
  was watching me, they just put shoes on though, they're like what oh?
• 54:08
  And then Kelly Preston is like rambling on about something and she's like,
• 54:14
  I'm gonna go Caroline, And I just thought that was so annoying because who
• 54:17
  does like I would go Caroline and do like it like satirical. I've always
• 54:22
  wanted her to try it, But I like, like, do you just
• 54:23
  call it? Like no, how do you decide which house is? You
• 54:27
  just knock on? How? One time I was at someone's house and there's
• 54:29
  years ago when I was a kid, and the carol kill what they're called
• 54:34
  Carollers were there like outside, and that's so uncomfortable. Yeah, I could
• 54:38
  see it being uncomfortable, but it'd be a lot of fun. But then,
• 54:42
  like, what if it's just me by myself and I can't sing either.
• 54:45
  You're just like, hey, that those aren't the words. I'm like,
• 54:47
  okay, I'm just gonna sing funky town, but I live sing here
• 54:51
  me out? Yeah all right. So Charlie is back on the hockey team
• 54:54
  and they have a game that day at eleven thirty. Jack and Listicester to
• 54:59
  help him get to the rink again, why is this dog just roaming?
• 55:04
  For some reason, they have live organ music at the hockey game, which
• 55:07
  I didn't understand. Jack makes it to the game just in time to see
• 55:10
  Charlie score the winning goal using the j shot, but Jack is in trouble.
• 55:14
  It's just too hot for him. Charlie rudely cuts the line at his
• 55:17
  mom work Mom's work, to beg her to drive him in the snowman to
• 55:22
  the mountain. Gabby dismisses him, and he runs off. Mum, Charlie,
• 55:29
  Hey, no cunning. Oh it's okay, ma'am. He's my son.
• 55:31
  Mom. You need to drive us somewhere right now, Honey, I'm
• 55:35
  working name. You've got to what's wrong, sweetie? He's melting. Who's
• 55:38
  melting the snowman's melting. Snowman melt, Charlie. That's just the way it
• 55:43
  is up to the mountain, and he's not. I am not driving you
• 55:46
  and your snowman anywhere. I know this has been really hard for you.
• 55:51
  You don't understand, Mom, Dad's the snowman what. I'm sorry, but
• 55:59
  he made me must not to tell you, Honey, he died a year
• 56:04
  ago. You're just gonna have to accept that. No, Mom, you
• 56:07
  don't understand, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie. Shortly afterwards, she really She
• 56:15
  realizes he has run away and enlisten Mack to help her search for him.
• 56:19
  Charlie spots a truck that's headed up to Pine Top Mountain. Rory decides to
• 56:23
  help him because snow Dad is better than no Dad. Snow Dad's better than
• 56:30
  no Dad. Let's go. We get a driving montage. Shout out to
• 56:35
  Jars of Clay for this awful song. Uh. Gabby and mackfile a missing
• 56:40
  report with the police, which brings to me the only legitimately funny line.
• 56:45
  Mac is asked to describe the snowman. He says white, and the officer
• 56:49
  writes down Caucasian. It was the snowman looked like like a snowman. He
• 56:55
  looks like a snowman. Three bulls too to COM's a cute colp nose.
• 57:00
  Here's a stone and day. What do you think he looks like? Look,
• 57:01
  I'm just trying to do my job. That's all I'm trying to do
• 57:04
  here? Can he help me out? Five eight? Okay? White Caucasian.
• 57:14
  The stock eaves well built. I'd say five hundred and five fifty pounds.
• 57:22
  Guess I made an age. Yeah, that was pretty good. Yeah.
• 57:25
  Charlie and Jack jump off a truck going at least fifty five miles an
• 57:30
  hour and land unharmed at the cabin. Jack calls Gabby and tells her that
• 57:37
  Charlie is asleep at the cabin in to come get him. Hello, Gabby,
• 57:42
  did you find him? Charlie's sleeping? Gabby hit one heck of a
• 57:47
  day. Wh where's Charlie? He's right here at the cabin. Why don't
• 57:58
  you come get him? Jack? At Christmas dawn, Jack tells Charlie it's
• 58:07
  time for him to go because Charlie needs to move on with his life.
• 58:12
  There's no logical explanation for him to leave. You know what, I think
• 58:15
  this is the best Christmas I ever had. You know that night you came
• 58:21
  back, it was because I played Joe Monica. I wished it. I
• 58:25
  wish that you would be here for Christmas. Hey, Charlie, thanks for
• 58:30
  giving me a second chance of your dad. Now there's something I have to
• 58:34
  tell you. It's time for me to go. I am shocked that he
• 58:37
  planned on leaving without even speaking to Gabby, But here we are. Luckily
• 58:43
  Gabby gets there just in time. As he begins to fade, he transforms
• 58:45
  back to himself for a few minutes and sings her smile. Sparting words to
• 58:49
  Charlie are I will always hear you. I will always hear you. Cut
• 58:55
  to later. I guess the next Christmas maybe, Yeah, we don't know.
• 59:02
  Yeah, it does feel like the next year. Yeah, Matt gets
• 59:06
  his groove back. Charlie is playing hockey with Rory and the team in the
• 59:08
  driveway, and then they choose to end it by following Chester as he once
• 59:14
  again roams the neighborhood with no supervision. Yeah, we didn't talk about like
• 59:17
  how he gets to like the hockey game, because like he he commandeers Chester
• 59:22
  to just carry him to the arena. Yeah, without any regard to how
• 59:28
  that dog is getting back like the house again. I just I really,
• 59:35
  you can't bring you can't lock Chester in h You might be able to food
• 59:37
  your nuts, but you drop the gate. Chester's jumping right over Chester's wild
• 59:42
  man. You're not supposed to think about him in this film. But it
• 59:45
  drives me nuts how this dog is like portrayed and then like all this stuff,
• 59:50
  you know, like it's so uh anyways as a pet owner drives me
• 59:53
  nuts. Anyways, Yeah, I would be calling a SPCA every day.
• 59:59
  I there's I do want I want to talk about, like the cabin scene
• 1:00:04
  and then like they're they're reuniting. But I think there's a couple of scenes
• 1:00:07
  I wanted to touch on that so the I do like the scene where Charlie
• 1:00:12
  is like trying to get back in the good graces of the hockey team and
• 1:00:15
  the in Sid is like trying to avoid like looking at the snowman. Yea
• 1:00:19
  yeah, and then like the kids are talking about it. I thought that
• 1:00:22
  was pretty funny. I have when goes, there will be no mention of
• 1:00:24
  snowman. Line nailed this role, like he didn't have a big part,
• 1:00:30
  but he nailed the role. The other scene I thought was kind of important
• 1:00:34
  and I thought it was gonna lead to more was when they're like at the
• 1:00:37
  they're like at a holiday party of the shiver Fest and he's like hanging out
• 1:00:42
  with Mac and getting to know Mac a little more and like you know,
• 1:00:45
  yeah, like Mac lost his groove and like because his best friend died,
• 1:00:49
  and like I just thought more was gonna come of that. Yeah, Well
• 1:00:52
  then I thought so sad too, because the bully was watching the snow Oh
• 1:00:57
  God, father son Snowman thing was the funny thing of this whole movie.
• 1:01:00
  But could you imagine if you're that little kid and you're like, oh,
• 1:01:04
  I don't have a father, I guess I'll go watch like this. This
• 1:01:06
  was so like stupidly poignant for like like it's so forced and it's like and
• 1:01:10
  there's like a big announcement like come of the father Son Snowman build and it's
• 1:01:15
  just like the funniest thing of this movie is and it's so unintentional, Like
• 1:01:19
  I was dying laughing about That's what I'm saying. Like they keep almost getting
• 1:01:23
  there, but it's like forced or it's like like him we're gonna build the
• 1:01:28
  Snowman together. Like yeah, it really felt like Max like the new Dad.
• 1:01:30
  But then nothing happens. That's what maybe like the journey of Jack Frost
• 1:01:36
  returning is to like tie up loose ends and make sure his son's okay and
• 1:01:39
  his wife's okay and his best friend's okay. But instead he just like does
• 1:01:44
  a bunch of Yes, his whole mission is just to make Charlie like him.
• 1:01:46
  Like that's that seems to be it, Like it's not really like he
• 1:01:49
  doesn't really care about Charlie's growth or like it's really just like, hey,
• 1:01:52
  I died, I just want to make sure you don't hate me. That's
• 1:01:55
  really what this all feels. Lightly well, I could see how somebody would
• 1:02:00
  say that, you know, having hate in your heart is not a good
• 1:02:02
  way to grow. His name is Henry Oak, Okay, Dungeons and Daddys,
• 1:02:07
  And I'm real listening, and I slept on Henry's character. But oh,
• 1:02:13
  I was gonna say living in the nineties was the fucking worst because remember
• 1:02:16
  having to go to the bank with your parents and you would just fucking wait
• 1:02:22
  in line for like two hours. Everything sucked. Yeah, but the snow
• 1:02:30
  dad is better than no dad. What in the why I don't understand.
• 1:02:34
  I don't understand what that means. Why did say that? Well, so
• 1:02:37
  he doesn't have a dad, and he's saying that, like helping him out,
• 1:02:42
  helping Charlie to have a snow dad is better than not having any dad,
• 1:02:46
  any dad, So he's going to help him. But like if he
• 1:02:51
  was just a normal non dad or a non snow person, if his dad
• 1:02:54
  was just really hurt and needed to go to the hospital with with the bullies,
• 1:02:58
  still help Well, probably yes, But I mean, like because the
• 1:03:00
  whole point is he doesn't have a dad, and he's just like, I'm
• 1:03:04
  gonna help you have that relationship. Like they bond a little bit in that
• 1:03:07
  moment, yeah, because like you know, like he understands that Rory has
• 1:03:12
  never had a dad. He now knows what it's like to have not have
• 1:03:15
  his dad. So they they are they're reconciling their differences, and then Charlie's
• 1:03:21
  like, look, I need help. Can you help me get this is
• 1:03:23
  my dad? And then can you help me get him? And like,
• 1:03:27
  yeah, it's no dad is better than no dad. Makes sense. That's
• 1:03:29
  a line, but like should be everyone's everyone's okay with with this snowman being
• 1:03:35
  alive, Like, it's not everyone, there's only a few people like who
• 1:03:38
  No, he's dragged him around the entire town, like there are a multi
• 1:03:43
  perspective. They just think Charlie's crazy and he just has a snowman and he's
• 1:03:46
  talking or having like he's having a hard time morning issue. Yeah. I
• 1:03:51
  mean it's portrayed as like him his own version of grief. Right. So
• 1:03:55
  the the one of the lines I really liked was from Kelly she said,
• 1:04:00
  I'm so sorry I didn't believe you. I was like, what the fuck,
• 1:04:04
  Like that's an okay thing to like not believe When they said, well,
• 1:04:10
  I put that out too, because do you think Charlie is going to
• 1:04:12
  misuse that when he gets older? Like, Charlie, uh, who'se meth?
• 1:04:15
  Is this under your bed? It was the bullies? I don't know,
• 1:04:18
  Charlie. Seems far fetched. Yeah, so did the soul of my
• 1:04:21
  dadman. But here we are. You're like, I guess it, right,
• 1:04:27
  Yeah. I do feel like there is like zero growth of Jack Frost
• 1:04:30
  character, like even up to the point where they get to the cabin,
• 1:04:33
  because he's encouraging him to just jump out of like a like a forty five
• 1:04:38
  mile per hour truck and he died on a mountain. Yeah, connect that,
• 1:04:44
  thank you. Yeah. And then they like just like they happen to
• 1:04:46
  know exactly where the cabin is, Like they're up in the like it's freezing
• 1:04:49
  and they have to walk like, you know, a long way to get
• 1:04:53
  to the cabin. Yeah. He's not well dressed. Yeah, like just
• 1:04:57
  the worst parent ever. Yeah, just calls him to just be it just
• 1:05:00
  calls Gabby, hey, come get your like doesn't even provide any explanation or
• 1:05:05
  just like get yourself even to be like, hey, it's really good to
• 1:05:09
  hear your voice. Say something fucking nice to your wife. You ask right
• 1:05:13
  here? Yeah yeah, And because then it sounds like he kidnapped the kid
• 1:05:19
  up by yourself. Don't bring anybody with you of the the rewatch the ending.
• 1:05:25
  Anyone's listening to you guys too, Like it's like when he when Jack
• 1:05:29
  Frost is saying goodbye to his family, It's like the writers didn't know how
• 1:05:31
  to end that because it went on way too long. It was like,
• 1:05:34
  okay, bye, I put Wow, what an abrupt ending. Hey,
• 1:05:40
  Charlie, this is my favorite Christmas. Ever, also, I gotta go,
• 1:05:43
  what right, So he's he's he's ready to leave without saying goodbye to
• 1:05:49
  his wife. Yeah, really fucked up. And then the not the interaction
• 1:05:55
  that they do have is so short and so abrupt. He could have stayed
• 1:05:59
  alive for as long as he needed to up there, Yeah, they could
• 1:06:03
  have. There was no like curse or like yeah, or like time period
• 1:06:09
  that he was given to be here. It was it seemed like as long
• 1:06:14
  as Charlie had played the harmonica, he would have survived as long as he
• 1:06:20
  was cold. So yeah, so at least spend Christmas together and like except
• 1:06:26
  make those memories like have a little snowball fire, yeah, you know whatever.
• 1:06:29
  So I guess like they fixed the sink that's been broken forever and like,
• 1:06:33
  to me, like that's the only connection that like Charlie's independent enough to
• 1:06:36
  like not need his dad anymore. I don't know what. I don't know.
• 1:06:41
  They did so terrible of a job like showing like the moral of what
• 1:06:45
  Charlie needed for him to like move on from his dad, right, yeah,
• 1:06:50
  like yeah, there was nothing. They gave us nothing, Yeah,
• 1:06:54
  I mean, because all we got was the lecture about your grades, and
• 1:06:57
  it's like, yeah, had had there been a scene where it just seems
• 1:07:03
  like he went from hey I'm really cool, Hey you're really shitty. Still,
• 1:07:09
  hey I actually really love you and you should move on. But there
• 1:07:12
  was no like there was no connection between those things. So it wasn't like,
• 1:07:16
  hey, I really care about you and this is I know, this
• 1:07:19
  is hard and this is why you should you know, be able to It
• 1:07:23
  just was toxic maxculinity of like you're the man in the house now and it's
• 1:07:27
  like, yeah, So between the poor riding and then like the very small
• 1:07:30
  scenes we get of the snowman doing some antics, they either should have done
• 1:07:34
  like way more antics, like more silly things happening, or really driven the
• 1:07:40
  point home of what the moral should be. Either one. If it's just
• 1:07:44
  a bunch of shilly shit with the yeah, chillly shit with the dad snow
• 1:07:48
  dad and his son and they're like terrorizing the town or like you know,
• 1:07:51
  picking up bullies or anything, but they just don't do a good enough job
• 1:07:57
  on any of this. Yeah, it's like they want to do two types
• 1:08:00
  of movies, but they weren't sure which ones. They just do both and
• 1:08:02
  then we'll just have a quick, abrupt ending. I have some ending the
• 1:08:05
  ending speech though, they keep cutting back to like the family, but then
• 1:08:09
  they keep cutting back to Jack Frost's fucking hands. Oh no, no,
• 1:08:14
  Jack Frost keeps like touching the boy like you can do it, and he's
• 1:08:16
  like, but they keep cutting back from the face to like a stick touching
• 1:08:20
  the boy. That seems like, like so touched the man and kisses his
• 1:08:24
  forehead. Is so awkward. Yeah, I have some trivia about like why
• 1:08:30
  maybe this was written so poorly, but I just I just hate the choices.
• 1:08:35
  I mean, here's the thing. I've grown to like love this film
• 1:08:40
  because it's so cheesy and like it's so absurd in so many ways. But
• 1:08:44
  yeah, like I just hate Jack Frost as a character, Like I hate
• 1:08:47
  the dad. I think they could have made it way better. Yeah yeah,
• 1:08:53
  and to like not even just be like while Charlie's sleepy, not have
• 1:08:57
  a scene where him and Gabby connect something. Yeah, anything they could and
• 1:09:02
  to make the movie drive a little bit better. I think if Michael Keaton
• 1:09:06
  didn't feel bad right at the end before he died, and then he was
• 1:09:11
  just like, hey, I'm gonna go focus on myself and then he comes
• 1:09:14
  back and we're like, oh, okay, because he had to focus on
• 1:09:15
  himself, he has to clear up that last final Christmas. Sure, but
• 1:09:19
  it's like, well he's a good guy, he's coming back to try to
• 1:09:21
  do it. So then we're like, you didn't meet. I don't know,
• 1:09:25
  it just they were close. They just didn't get there though. I
• 1:09:28
  don't know. Maybe it's one of those things though, is like maybe maybe
• 1:09:30
  we as the audience is expecting too much of Jack Frost and maybe maybe like
• 1:09:39
  just shitty people get riding weird. Yeah, like maybe maybe just shitty people
• 1:09:45
  do get reincarnated and don't learn their lesson. Like what if like you know,
• 1:09:48
  he was somebody who was like embazsling a bunch of money and you know,
• 1:09:54
  selling drugs and he came back as a snowman after passing away and then
• 1:09:58
  continued to sell drugs and money or something. Hell yeah, he's like uh,
• 1:10:03
  He's like, it looks like you have no myth, Like I'm some
• 1:10:05
  snow myth. Yeah. Yeah, I was just gonna say like, yeah,
• 1:10:10
  I mean cocaine is called it's called snow, like there's a whole oh
• 1:10:15
  yeah or not Bee fifty two. Yeah, this whole movie felt like it
• 1:10:19
  was like it was up to his family's job. It was his family's job
• 1:10:24
  to absolve him with all his guilt. Yeah, and that's it. He
• 1:10:27
  was definitely teaching his son some like kind of sexist, like macho whatever,
• 1:10:30
  because it's like played for fun. When he assumes that his dad's working on
• 1:10:34
  the stink, it turns out to be the mom. Like that's so crazy
• 1:10:38
  that a mom could be a woman could be doing. I mean, I'm
• 1:10:41
  with you, Jeff, that is crazy, all right, So I'm getting
• 1:10:45
  the wrong message. I still I mean I still cried. Oh god,
• 1:10:49
  no, yeah, I cried. I want to shed a couple of cheers
• 1:10:51
  because I'm soulless. But I love that. I thought this movie was great.
• 1:10:56
  I really enjoyed the movie. Ah why why, I don't know why?
• 1:11:01
  There's person awesome? I really I like, Okay, I want to
• 1:11:05
  say I love this movie, but I was actually enjoying myself up until the
• 1:11:09
  snow chase scene. Then I'm like, okay, it's getting a little much
• 1:11:13
  with these constant fucking like one little one liners like oh I'm really slimming down,
• 1:11:16
  like oh I got sticky. You know. It's like okay, every
• 1:11:19
  every twenty seconds, do we need another joke? The man, you know,
• 1:11:23
  I'm the snowman. That's that's his way of coping because instead of like
• 1:11:29
  the awkward silences between and yeah, they got just like awkward conversation. I
• 1:11:34
  watched that movie that was not like so dad, how do you pee?
• 1:11:38
  Or if there's like really no talking, so that just in the truck each
• 1:11:42
  other for like forty five seconds and then Yeah. What I don't get that
• 1:11:45
  they couldn't have done is that this is just a year later, the band
• 1:11:48
  is probably still relevant in the town. Why don't we just put him in
• 1:11:51
  the recording studio and like record that album mark it off of them? They
• 1:11:56
  would, Yeah, they would, do you know what I mean? Or
• 1:11:58
  like live converse on the Yeah, you know, like come see an actual
• 1:12:01
  live snowman like singing blues. I don't you know. It was. The
• 1:12:05
  whole thing bothers me is like he didn't The thing that bothers me the most
• 1:12:09
  is like he did not have to go. Yeah, he simply did not
• 1:12:12
  have to leave, Like they could keep him on that mountain year round.
• 1:12:16
  Yeah, it's Colorado, there are are mountains, can just live forever.
• 1:12:21
  Yeah, and the very beginning the movie, there's three feet of snow at
• 1:12:24
  the house, and then a year later they're still like, so there's probably
• 1:12:27
  it's pretty cold for the most part. But was the point of him,
• 1:12:30
  and they didn't say this at all, was for him to have it,
• 1:12:32
  because it goes, this is the best Christmas I've ever had, all right,
• 1:12:35
  I gotta go yea, So it was the point for him to just
• 1:12:38
  have himself any sense, it's wild. Yeah, I think I don't think
• 1:12:45
  that he should have stayed a snowman the whole time, Like he shouldn't indefinitely
• 1:12:47
  be a snowman because that's gonna get old pretty quick for the family, like
• 1:12:51
  a couple of years. Like yeah, that's fine, we're doing the gimmick
• 1:12:55
  thing. But then like when the kids like going up to college, my
• 1:12:58
  desk, I wish there. He's like he's like Charlie after life is awful.
• 1:13:06
  He's like, it's sucking. There's demons everywhere. I'm just constantly getting
• 1:13:12
  raved and I'm in a hot water. I don't want to go back to
• 1:13:15
  Charlie. And then Charlie goes to college and like Arizona, so like he
• 1:13:20
  puts his dad like a. Yeah, he's like, Hell is better than
• 1:13:25
  this. I wonder why he just they could have technically bought it like a
• 1:13:29
  storage freezer and just put his head in there. He could what kind of
• 1:13:30
  life is that? I don't like he's like every day like, hey dad,
• 1:13:34
  how you doing? All Right? I gotta go, you know,
• 1:13:36
  Like, I don't know, but I wish that, Yeah, we could
• 1:13:43
  know what happened to Jack Froster in that year. I'm like, yeah,
• 1:13:46
  right, he doesn't know, right, Isn't there a moment where he says
• 1:13:50
  like, I I really don't know how this has happened. Yeah, he
• 1:13:53
  said, like the last thing I remember was like it went black and yeah.
• 1:13:57
  Yeah, So this movie just said there's no heaven or hell based on
• 1:14:00
  that. So this movie figured it out. So should do a quick rating
• 1:14:08
  on this? Yeah, okay, do you want me to go over what
• 1:14:11
  the like the public thinks about this film? Yeah? Yes, all right?
• 1:14:15
  So ratings IMDb, this is rated five point four out of ten.
• 1:14:19
  It is a nineteen percent on Rotten Tomatoes. Man Roger Ebert gave the film
• 1:14:26
  one out of four stars, saying it's possible for the Jim Henson folks in
• 1:14:31
  the industrial light and magic to put their heads together and come up with the
• 1:14:33
  most repulsive single creature in the history of special effects. And I am not
• 1:14:38
  forgetting the Chucky Doll or the Desert Intestine from Star Wars. Wow, what
• 1:14:42
  a terrible thing to say about the effects of that film. That's hilarious.
• 1:14:46
  Well, Jake fifteen thirty one in the year two thousand gave it a one
• 1:14:49
  out of ten and he said, who butchered this film? I've rented this
• 1:14:54
  I rented this film based on the trailers that I have seen. I thought
• 1:14:57
  this film might be a cute family film. Not this film lacks the Genny
• 1:15:00
  Wine warmth similar to films of this genre that films of this genre have.
• 1:15:05
  I could not feel anything for this kid or his mother. The director fails
• 1:15:10
  to capture the audience and make us feel something. The kid's father dies and
• 1:15:13
  I just didn't care when he came back as a snowman. The sun is
• 1:15:16
  more flabbergasted than happy. This film needed a major rewrite before production began.
• 1:15:23
  What is so Roger Ebert like? Why is he? Why is he the
• 1:15:29
  person to go to with all of this? Well, because back then they
• 1:15:31
  just didn't have internet, really, so I guess who ever made the biggest
• 1:15:34
  stink out. He was probably the seventh platform job but too bad he wasn't
• 1:15:41
  Mary Anne Johnson, who gave it a flick. Philosopher is her nickname.
• 1:15:45
  If Jack Frost doesn't prove that Hollywood is not only uh creatively bankrupt, but
• 1:15:49
  actually in the hands of minions of Satan, then I don't know what does
• 1:15:54
  uh but they But Mary gave it a three out of ten the worse movies.
• 1:16:00
  Yeah, and that was in two thousand and as well. I don't
• 1:16:03
  think that I wouldn't go. I probably go the kid was the best,
• 1:16:06
  then the Jack Frost, and then the mom because like all I said,
• 1:16:11
  like the mom didn't have much going on anyways. But I wouldn't say that
• 1:16:14
  the mom did a better performance than the sun who carried the movie. I
• 1:16:16
  would say the best friend. I think at like was the best actor in
• 1:16:20
  the movie. Yeah. We also didn't have a line, so I don't
• 1:16:25
  know. I don't know. I just think anybody like, like, if
• 1:16:29
  you really hate this movie, like it's just not for you, because it's
• 1:16:33
  like a you know, a movie that's like it does its job of like
• 1:16:38
  you know, I hah, And then yeah, yeah, there's there's quite
• 1:16:43
  a few laugh out loud moments which I enjoyed. And and not every movie
• 1:16:45
  needs to be good because like some movies need to be stupid, because there's
• 1:16:48
  a lot of fucking stupid people out there. Way no here, all right,
• 1:16:51
  what are we writing this? What are you personally writing this? Uh?
• 1:16:55
  So out of a gingerbread man cookie, I'm gonna give it two limbs,
• 1:17:01
  I think out of two out of four, I'm including the head head.
• 1:17:05
  Would I think I think out of seven? You got only two out
• 1:17:11
  of five? Yeah, yeah, out of seven. I would give it
• 1:17:15
  like probably a five or six, honestly, six out of seven sor right,
• 1:17:21
  great out of five sugar cookies, I would give this a four.
• 1:17:28
  I just I mean, it's just for me. It's nostalgia, and it's
• 1:17:32
  it's just corny. Yeah, and it's corny enough to be I don't know,
• 1:17:43
  Okay, Yeah, it's just I would say four out of five.
• 1:17:45
  Yeah, objectively, this is like, yeah, one or two out of
• 1:17:48
  five. But I do love picking on this film, like especially especially Michael
• 1:17:56
  Keaton's singing and lyrics, and yeah, it's just silly. I wish it
• 1:18:02
  was better in any way, But like I watch it every year now,
• 1:18:08
  and I'd say, like, you know, four, three, three point
• 1:18:12
  five out of five, you know, it's still fun to watch in some
• 1:18:15
  way. I'm gonna watch it again, not soon. I was just gonna
• 1:18:17
  say, like I won't turn it off if it's on TV. Like it
• 1:18:20
  wasn't like I didn't hate the movie. It was just its okay, yeah,
• 1:18:24
  But I mean, for you know, out of ten to me,
• 1:18:26
  is it like I have a weird rating system. So it's the worst movie.
• 1:18:30
  But I do think I would recommend it, especially if you have kids
• 1:18:31
  to watch it, not just to guild them into stuff like Jess. I
• 1:18:35
  just think kids would really make yourself look better by comparison. Two facts I
• 1:18:43
  have about this All three of Frank Zappa's children appear in this film. Interesting.
• 1:18:47
  And then so the film, as I mentioned, was supposed to originally
• 1:18:50
  star George Clooney. It was also supposed to be like an actual adaptation of
• 1:18:55
  Frosty the Snowman. Sam Raimi was also the original director Rain but dropped out
• 1:19:00
  when George Clooney dropped out. So I think why we are picking on the
• 1:19:04
  writing so badly is I think it was like just butchered through the whole process
• 1:19:09
  and this is the result. Yeah, so but yeah, Sam Raimie,
• 1:19:15
  isn't he horror sometimes? But he also did like Spider Man and some other
• 1:19:20
  you know. Yeah, it's interesting if if it was starred George Clooney and
• 1:19:27
  it was supposed to be actually like Frosty the Snowman and not like just some
• 1:19:30
  kids dad died and this and that, Like maybe it would have been a
• 1:19:32
  better film. What do you think, like, how do you think that
• 1:19:34
  script would have looked? Like? What do you think the story would have
• 1:19:39
  been? Some kids find a magic hat, put it on a snowman,
• 1:19:42
  they have fun. So just so take all all the emotional elements out of
• 1:19:46
  it essentially, but that hmhm or maybe the kids all have something missing from
• 1:19:54
  their lives and they learned learned through it through Frosty. I like that.
• 1:19:59
  I like that. Yeah, because some kids found the hat magic hat someday
• 1:20:01
  and for ust he came to life like that's the song. So so is
• 1:20:04
  it just like more of an action? I really I have zero Well I'm
• 1:20:11
  just what I know. I know, But like, what would you make
• 1:20:14
  it more? I guess all of you, what would you make it more?
• 1:20:17
  Like if you could write this, I like, I think that's cool.
• 1:20:23
  I hated. I'm just kidding. No, I mean I'm trying to
• 1:20:29
  think of way to stretch it into like an hour and a half, and
• 1:20:30
  I think you would have to have multiple kids have something, you know what
• 1:20:34
  I mean. So yeah, yeah, I mean that would probably be the
• 1:20:38
  only way to do it. And then yeah, there's no man helping each
• 1:20:40
  child figure something out. Yeah, probably, And then like he'll like be
• 1:20:44
  still if like a parent comes around and the kids are like, look,
• 1:20:45
  he's real, and then like so he's only real with the kids or something.
• 1:20:49
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that would work because like at
• 1:20:53
  the so, one of the buttons that he uses to put on him is
• 1:20:58
  is the Jack frost pin. So it's like each kid had something, like
• 1:21:02
  one had a hat that yeah yeah yeah, so and each kid then that's
• 1:21:08
  what makes thee could be some like kids who get bullied and they're just like
• 1:21:12
  kind of outcasts. They put their gun in snow. Frosty like helps them
• 1:21:20
  with their challenges and then after that he has no more. He starts to
• 1:21:24
  reflect that he doesn't have a life, and then that's when he like goes
• 1:21:28
  he goes after that, like like the essence, we could rewrite Price and
• 1:21:35
  Snowman. It wouldn't be hard. Yeah, yeah, I would just write
• 1:21:40
  what the movie like that Frosty cartoon. It is interesting that they haven't tried
• 1:21:44
  to make that happen. Yeah, us do you think they do in the
• 1:21:47
  studies, Like we tried that, this is what we try to rewrite it,
• 1:21:53
  but it's just this movie. Again. I just think this is so.
• 1:22:00
  But it is interesting how, like you know, Rudolph, like all
• 1:22:02
  those like old timey Christmas, you know, classics have not been like rebooted
• 1:22:09
  or cannibalized by like the studios. It's interesting there are some things that are
• 1:22:13
  sacred all. I mean, I'm glad to see it. I'm glad to
• 1:22:15
  hear and see that. It's interesting clamation of Rudolph versus like the but I'm
• 1:22:21
  talking about like how like Disney does like live action Lion Kan and like those
• 1:22:26
  kind of like reboots, Like it's interesting that those haven't happened. Does Disney
• 1:22:30
  own the rights to those? Maybe public domain you're actually looking at? Yeah,
• 1:22:33
  like any studio DreamWorks own owns Frosty? Who is it the DreamWorks studio?
• 1:22:41
  Eventually it becomes public domain like Winnie the Pooh and some Mickey now is
• 1:22:45
  published. I think it's like seventy years. Like it's a long time I'm
• 1:22:47
  gonna make. I cannot wait for like like Desperate Housewives to like be that
• 1:22:51
  because I'm going to rewrite Desperate Housewives and fix all the plot holes so we
• 1:22:56
  know what we gotta write. Frost and Snowman will add some Desperate Housewives house
• 1:23:00
  and we'll send it to DreamWorks right done. If if they're listening right now,
• 1:23:03
  the probably gonna steal our ideas the whole podcast. We're not having a
• 1:23:09
  podcast this week. Delete the whole thing. Is there any other any other
• 1:23:14
  final thoughts on this movie and these scenes that maybe like to retouch on or
• 1:23:18
  anything about it? Not really, I felt like it went by pretty quick.
• 1:23:23
  There was a few moments where I'm like, man, I feel like
• 1:23:25
  like but they like I just like some scenes felt like they were going for
• 1:23:29
  kind of a long time, like that snow chase scene. But overall the
• 1:23:30
  movie was entertaining. I enjoyed it. It was pretty quick, and I
• 1:23:34
  do, like I said, it's it's not really Christmas y, but there's
• 1:23:38
  snows, so it feels like it's a Christmas movie, I guess, so
• 1:23:41
  I would recommend watching it around this time of year. I don't know what
• 1:23:43
  for August if you're in Australia. Yeah, I don't know what this had
• 1:23:45
  to do with the movie, but I did make some notes. I'm sure
• 1:23:49
  that they mentioned somewhere like the Hollywood Walk of Fame or something, because I
• 1:23:54
  started making notes and doing research about that, and I found out that the
• 1:23:59
  Rugrats have a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Do you all know
• 1:24:01
  that? No, but it costs a lot of money to get You have
• 1:24:03
  to pay for it yourself, and like the ruggrass is like the Simpsons,
• 1:24:08
  Yeah, you have to, like you have to be approved to through like
• 1:24:11
  a vetting process and you have to pay for it. Trump has one because
• 1:24:15
  he would like you have to buy one of those, and he like has
• 1:24:18
  made like a cultural impact, I suppose, but like they don't have who's
• 1:24:24
  like a horrible person in America? Trump? Well, here he has.
• 1:24:29
  But anyways, but so I found out that the Rugrats, which I thought
• 1:24:31
  was interesting because they're not very relevant anymore, I don't know, And there
• 1:24:34
  are a cartoons anymore, what what do you mean anymore? Like they're not
• 1:24:39
  like, they're not the Simpsons, they're not coming out with like new movies.
• 1:24:42
  I don't think. Yeah, they did get everybody, but yeah,
• 1:24:46
  yeah, And then I heard that on Internet that Thomas Edison has a Hollywood
• 1:24:53
  Walk of Fame star. That's a piece of yeah, because he wasn't a
• 1:24:57
  good man. Apparently it was a pretty bad I don't know why that came
• 1:25:01
  up in the movie or in my thought processed with watching this. Yeah.
• 1:25:04
  Yeah, I don't think they talk about it at all. No, that
• 1:25:08
  would kind of right. Maybe Michael Keaton has one. Maybe he does.
• 1:25:11
  I don't know. I hope, I hope Kelly Preston doesn't. Not that
• 1:25:14
  I like her, but like I don't think she's deservant of it. Her
• 1:25:16
  line, like her only line pretty much. I remember from Jerry Maguire is
• 1:25:20
  never stop fucking me, and then Tom Hanks or Tom Cruise goes gotta stop
• 1:25:27
  sooner later, and that's the scene that I remember from Jerry Maguire. One
• 1:25:31
  thing, one thing we didn't mention that I like that bothered me in the
• 1:25:36
  film was the set when they're doing the hockey stuff. Did you know did
• 1:25:42
  you know this? They're like on this like pristine like ice rink, like
• 1:25:45
  it's clearly like plastic cave behind them. It looked so bad. Yeah,
• 1:25:53
  about midway through I was tackling like a plate of nachos. So I don't
• 1:25:57
  remember, but but I I just want to remembering. Like, probably the
• 1:26:01
  funniest thing that I've heard in a long time in general is in recreating what
• 1:26:09
  like hell is like for Jack Cross this episode that's amazing, Like that would
• 1:26:15
  have been more of a realistic that would have given I would have given seven
• 1:26:18
  out of seven stars, like that would have been Charlie, you could never
• 1:26:21
  die. Please don't let me know, Charlie, I can't go back,
• 1:26:26
  like you don't know what it's like. All right, That's all I have
• 1:26:31
  to say. All Right, So I'm again this is a staple. It
• 1:26:39
  just is. Yeah. Yeah, I thought this movie was gonna be way
• 1:26:43
  worse than so I went in thinking it was just gonna be real bad.
• 1:26:45
  So like I said, though, yeah, I wasn't gonna even show up.
• 1:26:53
  Oh love, I like it, okay, so up until the snow
• 1:26:56
  chasing thing, I'm not joking at all. Is like when I say I'm
• 1:26:59
  liking like I kind of like Munchie. I know, they're going to think,
• 1:27:01
  but no, it was really I like but and then and I got
• 1:27:04
  a little old, but okay, I still like Munchie. So yeah,
• 1:27:06
  another improvement that Christmas Munchie, Why don't we have that? Another improvement would
• 1:27:12
  be if no one ever saw Jack Frost yip yap in and it was just
• 1:27:16
  like a psychology. Yes, I thought about that, yeah, yeaheah yeah,
• 1:27:19
  and then it's like did he really was? Was he really? That's
• 1:27:23
  like that movie like we needed to do eventually and Jeremy no drop dead Fred?
• 1:27:28
  Yeah? Yeah, have you seen that? Right? I haven't,
• 1:27:30
  but I know about it. Yeah, yeah, I was a little kid,
• 1:27:33
  but it like maybe you feel grossy, it's fucked up, but carry
• 1:27:35
  Fisher's in it, So what's up? All right? All right? Cool?
• 1:27:44
  Well, uh, this wraps up the year for us in twenty twenty
• 1:27:46
  three. We want to thank you so much for any of you who've been
• 1:27:49
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• 1:27:58
  But otherwise, have a wonderful holiday and New Year. And when we
• 1:28:01
  come back, it's episode ninety. No, we got something cool planned.
• 1:28:06
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  gone. It's only out for two weeks, right, it's it's out while
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  this while we've been recording this podcast. Yeah, and it was I got
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  it. Three nineteen is delicious. Great, yep, Jeff, anything to
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  promote, No, but if you want to look pictures of my dog,
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  Guscus, follow him on Guscus Underscore the Dog. And then I had to
• 1:29:04
  have a grievance. I guess it is. And it's happened to me because
• 1:29:09
  I've been eating out a lot and getting food from my family. It's me
• 1:29:12
  and two others, and I'm sick of it of people saying, uh,
• 1:29:16
  is this for here to go? When clearly I'm ordering for more than one
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  person, and there's no one else in the restaurant, so there's no confusion
• 1:29:26
  that they're sitting over there over there. So then the other night I was
• 1:29:28
  getting cal zones, and I was like, I'm just gonna yeah, I'm
• 1:29:31
  just gonna sit here and watch y' all while eat. And then in the
• 1:29:34
  industry, hopefully, I know it's a funny observation. We don't really think
• 1:29:40
  that, right, Like you don't I really, I think it's a habit.
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  Yeah. I think it's just like when they when I say, like
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  when they like, enjoy your meal, and I'm like, YouTube, you
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  know that kind of thing, Like I know that they're probably not eating.
• 1:29:53
  But and then so I was sitting there because they make their cow zones fresh,
• 1:29:57
  like fresh to order, like they're known for cal zones, and and
• 1:30:00
  so as I was I was looking at col zone jokes, and so I
• 1:30:03
  went up to the guy and I was like, hey, I have a
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  cow zone joke. And he was like okay, And I was like,
• 1:30:09
  I don't know if it's appropriate or not, but we'll see. I said,
• 1:30:12
  uh, on Google's it's not my fault. And I said, like,
• 1:30:15
  why do cal zones look so weird. He was like why, and
• 1:30:17
  I was like, because they're in bread. I didn't even let I didn't
• 1:30:27
  enjoy the laughter. I just turned around and walked away like it was so
• 1:30:32
  delicious. It would have been great if you just stared him in the eyes
• 1:30:35
  until until until you got your Yeah, the colzones are bomb. Yeah from
• 1:30:42
  where it's called a doco and it's down Eugene. Yeah what Oh it was
• 1:30:48
  for a work thing, so I would have I'm just gonna get real well,
• 1:31:00
  not yeah, I'm gonna get political here real quick and do it.
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  I would just like to promote mask wearing again and keeping yourself safe. And
• 1:31:12
  I am now almost a month after having December twenty fifth, Christmas Day will
• 1:31:19
  be a month since I've had COVID and then bronchitis on top of that,
• 1:31:24
  and then I was diagnosed with long COVID today. So I'm having trouble breathing.
• 1:31:30
  It is almost impossible to take a shower. I want to pass out,
• 1:31:36
  just insanely fatigued. And this can all be not easily prevented, but
• 1:31:41
  we can take steps to protect each other. And I would just really like
• 1:31:45
  people to do that because it matters. It matters. When you are the
• 1:31:51
  only person in your family to like be around, you know, for the
• 1:31:57
  holidays, because everybody else has died from COVID or died from the effects of
• 1:32:03
  COVID over time, multiple infections creates multiple systemic issues. So just please please
• 1:32:10
  take care of yourself and take care of each other, people of each other.
• 1:32:14
  CITC is recommending masking again, right, yes, so you know,
• 1:32:17
  maybe just wear a mask while you're shopping. Yeah, get vaccinated, Like,
• 1:32:21
  I'm fine with that. Right? Is the vaccination cool? Now?
• 1:32:25
  Still? Yes? I got? I mean I got, But I grew
• 1:32:28
  up as a military baby. What's that called a so like I've never been
• 1:32:32
  afraid of that. Like every time we moved I had to get fucking vaccinated.
• 1:32:35
  So I've never been afraid of them. I don't know. I don't
• 1:32:38
  know why people are like I completely forgot about it, and then Taylor Swift's
• 1:32:41
  boyfriend reminded me on so I was nice. I love that Taylor's boyfriend,
• 1:32:47
  I don't know his name. Promotions. Tell us about your comedy all that
• 1:32:57
  me? Me? Uh, I don't know you all heard it before.
• 1:33:01
  Just follow me on Allie J is gay? If you want to keep up
• 1:33:03
  with me, and see some ship posting in my stories. It's barely about
• 1:33:08
  it. So you're dominating the fucking world, or at least the like Oregon.
• 1:33:14
  What's that you're doin like Oregon? You're always like doing shit. That's
• 1:33:17
  awesome. Yeah, yeah, fucking yeah, fuck you? Uh well until
• 1:33:25
  thanks time the stelling to nerds. Thanks for listening. I'm Ali. This
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  is a double on Tundra, but I'm Andy Rollins because the guy who wrote
• 1:33:31
  the song Fricist Snowman was Walter Rollins and Henry Rollins was in the movie.
• 1:33:38
  That's not a double on tundre. You know. That's a double thing,
• 1:33:43
  double fist. I'm Jeff and I'm Ria Frost. Oh Man, that's cute.
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  Media a few minutes, just so you know, I was fucking wasted last
• 1:34:51
  night when I watched this movie. So it's like, I don't know why
• 1:34:55
  you warn us, or like every single time we do review, you're like,
• 1:35:03
  I would not next time be like I did. I actually did not
• 1:35:06
  smoke weed or get drunk this time for the review, so that would be
• 1:35:10
  we just hear we go. I took. Yeah, I going forward.
• 1:35:15
  I think twenty twenty four is my year. I'm gonna take ship more professionally.
• 1:35:19
  Sure, that's like drug taking. I'm gonna I'm gonna take drugs,
• 1:35:23
  but I'm gonna do it more professionally. I'm gonna wear a tie when I
• 1:35:26
  were doing so. Yeah, I don't know what professional people. Okay,
• 1:35:32
  let's get to started. We have something to do, all right, hold
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  on, god fucking damage, thank you? All right, there we go,
• 1:35:42
  Ready, ready, ready, Yeah, it would have been funny or
• 1:35:48
  if you would have came back as like a like a reindeer. Yeah,
• 1:35:53
  but like like gets stuck and like you sucking like restaurants. Get him out
• 1:36:00
  of here. He's going around. He's like, I don't know, I
• 1:36:02
  don't know how to use Charlie's He does a budget, another Christmas or holiday
• 1:36:10
  object that comes back as a minora. Yeah, like a fire everywhere.
• 1:36:15
  I don't know, it's just Santa. Oh my god, that just be
• 1:36:19
  like it'd just be him, but fatter Santa Claus. Yeah, okay'll be
• 1:36:24
  the Santa Claus. Yeah. Oh yeah, I guess he comes back as
• 1:36:28
  Tim Allen. Yeah. Oh god, he's like, but Tim Allen's still
• 1:36:30
  alive. This is real confused. I can't stand him Allen, but I
• 1:36:32
  do think he's hot though. You think he's hot, yeah, we talked
• 1:36:36
  about this before. He's like amazingly unique chest hair. It gets like Allan
• 1:36:44
  Yeah, and look at this. You see his chest hair on Home Improvement.
• 1:36:46
  He was like Charlotte sometimes and he has a very interesting chest hair,
• 1:36:50
  and that's what makes him hot. I don't know something's hot about him.
• 1:36:54
  I don't know. I think the I think the photo of him where he's
• 1:36:59
  arrested, I think he actually looks pretty attractive. Yeah. I don't like
• 1:37:02
  such a I don't like his politics or his like. I don't think he's
• 1:37:06
  particular funny. Yeah, but like if he was like if I was single,
• 1:37:10
  he was like you want and I'll be like, yeah, I was
• 1:37:13
  pretty slutty when I was thinking about, like