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Darlene Zschech Wrote Shout to the Lord in 20 Minutes and Almost Hid It · Crosswalk Talk: Celebrity Christian Interviews

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  Speaker 1: Life Audio.
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  Speaker 2: Hey Darlene, thanks for joining me.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 2: Darling Czeck, worship leader and singer who is part of
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  Speaker 2: a new film, The House of Worship, that brings together
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  Speaker 2: twenty five years of worship music's most influential artist to
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  Speaker 2: celebrate songs that have shaped generations. Darlene, You've influenced me
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  Speaker 2: and my faith over the years, and you've You've penned
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  Speaker 2: so many incredible worship anthems or worship worthy as the
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  Speaker 2: Lamb Victor's Crown Shout to the Lord. I'm curious, Darling,
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  Speaker 2: when you hear people singing your music and in church today,
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  Speaker 2: what goes through your mind?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? It's funny, isn't it? Because I just kind of
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  Speaker 3: get caught in the moment. I don't really think about
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  Speaker 3: Oh I wrote that. Actually, a lot of times I
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  Speaker 3: totally forget. I'm like, I just get caught in the
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  Speaker 3: worship of God. But you know, it's very humbling, I
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  Speaker 3: will say, And yeah, like just to be a tiny,
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  Speaker 3: tiny part of bringing a prayer to God, that is
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  Speaker 3: the you know, that is a great privilege. So I
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  Speaker 3: never I pray, I never take it for granted.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway.
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  Speaker 2: I think anybody watching this interview is going to want
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  Speaker 2: me to ask you to wanting me to ask you
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  Speaker 2: about Shout to the Lord. It's more than three decades old. Now,
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  Speaker 2: what was in this inspiration for that song when you
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  Speaker 2: were writing it? What were your what was going through
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  Speaker 2: your mind when you wrote it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we had it was a pretty tough time. I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to say, you know that probably lots of people
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  Speaker 3: face it when you want to be in like full
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  Speaker 3: time church ministry and you got to speak dream in
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  Speaker 3: your heart. And there's literally no way I was singing
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  Speaker 3: jingles advertisements, you know, to help, you know, earn money.
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  Speaker 3: You had two little kids, Mike, we had a business
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  Speaker 3: that was not doing great, and you know, we're just
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  Speaker 3: probably too busy. And I just went to the Lord
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  Speaker 3: one day, sat it my piano, opened up the Bible,
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  Speaker 3: kind of just pouring out my heart and you'll find
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  Speaker 3: Shout Lord between some ninety six and summer hundred. And
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  Speaker 3: I say to people, I didn't so much write it
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  Speaker 3: as sing it. I think it took twenty minutes and
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  Speaker 3: I just sang it, and I sang it and I
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  Speaker 3: sang it, and it was just a prayer to the Lord.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't play it to worship Pasta. At the time,
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't a confidence songwriter. So when I finally did,
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  Speaker 3: because I said, oh, I think I might have a song.
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  Speaker 3: It's you know, I've been singing it at home. And
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  Speaker 3: when I finally played it to them, I had them
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  Speaker 3: turn around with their backs to me because I was
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  Speaker 3: so embarrassed, and I'd be like, my Jesus, nice to
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  Speaker 3: you if you change it, if you want to, I
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  Speaker 3: know it's not very good, like this was me every
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  Speaker 3: couple of lines. And so when we finally I finally
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  Speaker 3: got to the end of the song our worship pasta
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  Speaker 3: at the time, Jeff Bully turned around and he had
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  Speaker 3: tears in his eyes. He's like, we're doing that this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, why, what, don't you want to fix it?
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  Speaker 3: But he's like, no, we're doing it. And that was that.
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  Speaker 3: It kind of left my mouth and left my life.
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  Speaker 3: And this was before this is what I love. And
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  Speaker 3: I keep telling people, don't worry about promotion or self promotion.
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  Speaker 3: Like people that really caught on it, I said, but
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  Speaker 3: I existed before there was all of the internet ability,
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  Speaker 3: and God took a song and just breathed on it,
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  Speaker 3: and before I knew it as getting letters from around
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  Speaker 3: the world. I didn't even know how they would have
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  Speaker 3: heard it. Like when God wants something out there, he
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  Speaker 3: can do it so encouraging.
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  Speaker 2: So you didn't realize what you had at the time.
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  Speaker 2: What point did you realize this could go worldwide? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: was it the first time you heard it maybe on
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  Speaker 2: the radio, or the first time that somebody wrote you
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  Speaker 2: from another country?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, probably a bit of all that. And to be honest,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, what are they doing with this song?
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  Speaker 3: How did they get this song? More than oh, this
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  Speaker 3: is gonna blow up? You know? I just I kind
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  Speaker 3: of don't really live in that space. So at the
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  Speaker 3: they sang this song the first time over and offering, right,
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  Speaker 3: and we were out of our church building that wee
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  Speaker 3: can We were at a race course, right, we're going
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  Speaker 3: to do horse races. We were rented the building, and
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  Speaker 3: they sang it over the offering and by the end
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  Speaker 3: of the offering, everybody was standing up with their hands
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  Speaker 3: in the air. And I remember the minister who was
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  Speaker 3: visiting that day. He was the one that said this
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  Speaker 3: song is going to go around the world and quickly,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like what, So, you know, it was just
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  Speaker 3: it was a real miracle of God, and it was
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  Speaker 3: lumpy and there was no kind of you know, master plan,
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  Speaker 3: and I really liked that because none of us can
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  Speaker 3: take credit for it. It was really magnificent.
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  Speaker 2: You're part of the early era of this modern worship movement.
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  Speaker 2: What do you remember about that season and why do
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  Speaker 2: you think this style of music took off?
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  Speaker 4: What's happened in the past, you know, twenty five so
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  Speaker 4: years to kind of help this music boom.
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  Speaker 3: One of the beautiful things when I looked at all
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  Speaker 3: these songs we're going through. These songs, they're all songs
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  Speaker 3: for the local church, written by people within the local church.
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  Speaker 3: Singable songs, you know, songs that give people the ability
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  Speaker 3: to release the cry of their heart and maybe they
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  Speaker 3: have been aching for that ability, and these we were
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  Speaker 3: trying to gather songs from that era that have stood
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  Speaker 3: the test of time, that give the average day to
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  Speaker 3: day person an easy way to express the depths of
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  Speaker 3: their hearts to God. And I think being a part
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  Speaker 3: of that time, like in Australia, and we were a
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  Speaker 3: long way from anybody, you know, there were real revival days.
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  Speaker 3: When I look back now, and even though it was
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  Speaker 3: it got crazy and busy and crazy, but we were
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  Speaker 3: living in revival days and just seeing you know, with
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  Speaker 3: lead worship and rather than polite flap and someone walks
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  Speaker 3: up and preaches lead worship and someone would do an
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  Speaker 3: old call and heaps of people would come and get saved.
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  Speaker 3: And it was There's a line in one of the
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  Speaker 3: early songs that Russell Frager wrote and he said, anything
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  Speaker 3: can happen, and probably will. That's what it was like.
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  Speaker 3: And yes there was some messiness later, but I wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: be sitting here today with you without those days where
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  Speaker 3: God really shaped us as a community of faith. He
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  Speaker 3: shaped us as a community of worship, leaders of worship,
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  Speaker 3: you know, musicians, production writers. We were being formed and
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  Speaker 3: forged together in this real and it was a blessing
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  Speaker 3: because no one knew who we were. It was fantastic
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  Speaker 3: and it was just it was like God hit us
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  Speaker 3: through a season while the roots went down deep. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm so thankful for those days, like really, and then
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  Speaker 3: we hear these new songs coming through, and seriously, I
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  Speaker 3: am in awe of some of these songwriters now that
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  Speaker 3: are picking up these new frequencies. But their job is
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  Speaker 3: still the same, you know, when we're when we're creating
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  Speaker 3: worship for the church, you know, we're not trying to
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  Speaker 3: be clever. We're trying to release something out of people.
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  Speaker 3: And so when I hear some of these songs now,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, sheesh, guys, go go get on our shoulders
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  Speaker 3: and go as high and as wide as you can
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  Speaker 3: because we're in these light revival days again, and the
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  Speaker 3: new song has always coexisted with a fresh revival on
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  Speaker 3: the earth. Wherever it was, it was always a new
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  Speaker 3: song that accompanied, you know, historical revivals. And we're there again,
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  Speaker 3: and it's oh, man, I could talk to you about
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  Speaker 3: this for hours. It's so exciting.
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  Speaker 2: It is it is. Let me ask you one on
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  Speaker 2: a question, and I'm asking maybe one of the most
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  Speaker 2: well known worship leaders in the world. What makes a
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  Speaker 2: worship song? Is it the lyrics? Is it the heart?
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  Speaker 2: Is it it's used in the church. How would you
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  Speaker 2: define that or is it definable?
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  Speaker 3: It's a really good question. Well, I would say, does
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  Speaker 3: it reveal Christ? Does it exalt Jesus? I mean that's that's.
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  Speaker 2: What you know.
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  Speaker 3: Worship is worthship that songs will express every think, our feelings,
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  Speaker 3: our emotions, a time, a memory, But actually worship reveals Christ.
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  Speaker 3: That's the Holy Spirit's job is like. And when we
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  Speaker 3: enter His gates with thanksgiving, we're not going in because
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  Speaker 3: of how great we are. We're going in because of
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  Speaker 3: how great He is. So, you know, if you look
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  Speaker 3: at the lyric content of these songs, they're just and
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  Speaker 3: Jesus be glorified. You know, we can get into the
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  Speaker 3: semantics of what it is. But does it exalt Jesus?
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  Speaker 3: Does it give you a pathway of expression to say,
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  Speaker 3: in the safety of the presence of God, Jesus, I
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  Speaker 3: love you, Jesus, I trust you, Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: I thank you.
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  Speaker 3: And I think you know, the more pathways we make
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  Speaker 3: where people we just reveal the worth of God. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I think we're on the brink of something so magnivous.
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  Speaker 3: And the worship is timeless and eternal. That's the other thing.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see some of these songs, you know, they just
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  Speaker 3: they're like standards in our life because every time you
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  Speaker 3: see them, they will do the same thing. They'll reveal Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: Darlene check with the new movie The House of Worship.
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  Speaker 4: Darlene, thanks so much, Thanks me.
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