Latest / Rush Hour / BONUS Episode: Spilling the Spiritual Beans
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- 0:01SPEAKER_01: Welcome everybody to a bonus episode of Rush Hour Podcast.
- 0:06SPEAKER_01: I'm here with someone new, a guest that I have brought in for today.
- 0:10SPEAKER_01: His name is Drew Southern.
- 0:12SPEAKER_01: He is from First Church of God in Belfoun.
- 0:15SPEAKER_01: And so, Drew, tell everybody hi.
- 0:17SPEAKER_01: Hello, everybody.
- 0:19SPEAKER_01: There you go.
- 0:19SPEAKER_01: Everybody, that's Drew, and my friends are not with me today.
- 0:22SPEAKER_01: Brittany and Ashley are, I don't know where they are, but uh, this is just a bonus episode, a real quick one we wanted to record.
- 0:28SPEAKER_01: Um, we'll be back on Friday with our normal weekly episode.
- 0:32SPEAKER_01: It's gonna be about Easter.
- 0:34SPEAKER_00: I'm your friend.
- 0:35SPEAKER_00: Your friends are here.
- 0:36SPEAKER_00: I'm your friend.
- 0:36SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you my friend too.
- 0:37SPEAKER_01: But my I met my my usual friends that are here with me.
- 0:41SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm an upgrade, I think.
- 0:42SPEAKER_01: Upgrade.
- 0:43SPEAKER_01: Upgrade.
- 0:44SPEAKER_01: Yes, all right.
- 0:44SPEAKER_00: Upgrade, you say.
- 0:45SPEAKER_01: Here we go.
- 0:46SPEAKER_01: Maybe I'll just replace them and be you and me all the time.
- 0:49SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't do that.
- 0:49SPEAKER_01: Okay, fine.
- 0:50SPEAKER_01: I'll keep them.
- 0:51SPEAKER_01: But you can come back anytime.
- 0:52SPEAKER_00: Oh.
- 0:52SPEAKER_01: But uh, we've been talking on our podcast about when we talked about heaven and angels and the spiritual realm the last few weeks.
- 0:59SPEAKER_01: And so I knew you are kind of an expert on some of this stuff.
- 1:04SPEAKER_00: A little bit.
- 1:06SPEAKER_00: Listen, I'm excited to be here.
- 1:08SPEAKER_00: You're excited to be here.
- 1:09SPEAKER_00: I'm excited about our topic today.
- 1:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:12SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't say that I'm an expert per se, but very knowledgeable.
- 1:16SPEAKER_00: Very knowledgeable.
- 1:18SPEAKER_00: Oh, I'm glad I brought you in.
- 1:20SPEAKER_00: I do find it interesting that we're on a podcast, and today we're talking, of course, about beans.
- 1:27SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 1:27SPEAKER_00: Spiritual beans.
- 1:28SPEAKER_00: Spiritual beans, precise.
- 1:30SPEAKER_00: But also, you know, beans come from a pod, and here we are talking on a podcast.
- 1:36SPEAKER_01: Very funny.
- 1:37SPEAKER_01: The first of many spiritual bean jokes of the city.
- 1:40SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, of course.
- 1:41SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
- 1:42SPEAKER_01: So, yes, today's topic is spiritual beans.
- 1:44SPEAKER_01: I thought Drew would be good to bring in just for a quick little update because he's knowledgeable about these kind of things.
- 1:49SPEAKER_01: And so, hope you enjoyed today's bonus episode of Rush Hour.
- 1:52SPEAKER_01: Let's jump into some of the things we'll be talking about today, spiritual bean-wise.
- 1:56SPEAKER_00: Sounds good.
- 1:57SPEAKER_00: Thanks for having me.
- 1:57SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 1:58SPEAKER_01: Glad to see your face.
- 1:59SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's nice to see you guys.
- 2:00SPEAKER_01: We've taken over Ashley's office.
- 2:02SPEAKER_00: We have near the coffee's good too.
- 2:03SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
- 2:04SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
- 2:04SPEAKER_01: We've had coffee.
- 2:06SPEAKER_01: And it didn't break the pot.
- 2:08SPEAKER_00: No.
- 2:09SPEAKER_00: No, I did not.
- 2:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 2:12SPEAKER_01: So when you think of spiritual beings, what comes to mind first, Drew?
- 2:17SPEAKER_00: I think for me, when I we start talking about spiritual beings, I think it's, you know, it's hard to understand.
- 2:24SPEAKER_00: Spiritual beings.
- 2:25SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it is hard to understand.
- 2:27SPEAKER_00: Interesting topic.
- 2:28SPEAKER_00: But I see it as like, you know, just as we kind of have a hierarchy here on Earth, we have a hierarchy there as well.
- 2:36SPEAKER_00: So I think there's when it comes to talking about spiritual beings, I think there are some beings that obviously set themselves apart.
- 2:43SPEAKER_01: I agree.
- 2:44SPEAKER_01: From the other beans.
- 2:44SPEAKER_01: Most definitely.
- 2:45SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 2:46SPEAKER_00: I mean, for me, I think the garbanzo bean.
- 2:49SPEAKER_01: The garbanzo.
- 2:50SPEAKER_00: I think is kind of like the master of humility and hummus, if you will.
- 2:54SPEAKER_01: You're going straight for the garbanzo.
- 2:56SPEAKER_00: I want it to be just thought, you know, it's such a versatile bean.
- 2:59SPEAKER_01: And I hate hummus.
- 3:00SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, it's it's not all about what you like, it's what it provides.
- 3:04SPEAKER_01: Like it's true.
- 3:05SPEAKER_00: It's very nutritious.
- 3:06SPEAKER_00: You're right.
- 3:07SPEAKER_00: So the garbanzo bean is one of the great, I think, spiritual beans.
- 3:10SPEAKER_01: It's a great spiritual bean.
- 3:12SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 3:12SPEAKER_00: And then I think we it would be embarrassing for both of us if we didn't bring up the kidney bean.
- 3:18SPEAKER_01: The kidney bean is a top three bean.
- 3:21SPEAKER_00: Well, it's a sp it's really the spiritual filtration.
- 3:24SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 3:24SPEAKER_00: If you think about it, right?
- 3:25SPEAKER_00: It kind of just, you know, all the all the good stuff that the world uh puts into us and is out there, it filters that and we get to keep that.
- 3:34SPEAKER_00: But the bad stuff, the kidney bean just gets rid of it.
- 3:36SPEAKER_00: As a spiritual being, the kidney just filters all that out.
- 3:39SPEAKER_00: So I think that's pretty interesting.
- 3:41SPEAKER_00: I agree.
- 3:42SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 3:42SPEAKER_00: And then of course we have the black bean.
- 3:44SPEAKER_00: And I think that's that's important because the black bean is kind of this idea that you know what?
- 3:50SPEAKER_00: I wasn't always a follower of Christ.
- 3:53SPEAKER_00: I have a past.
- 3:54SPEAKER_01: Black bean does have a past.
- 3:56SPEAKER_00: Yes, I have a past, and the black bean is just kind of associates me with the fact that you know what, I can let go of that old pattern as I just walk this road to sanctification and become, you know, Christ on earth as we're trying to be, right?
- 4:11SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 4:11SPEAKER_00: So I think that's important.
- 4:13SPEAKER_00: And then, of course, I think, you know, everybody says, and you even texted me this today, cool beans.
- 4:18SPEAKER_00: Cool beans.
- 4:18SPEAKER_00: So I think it we should talk about cool beans as well.
- 4:21SPEAKER_00: Like chili beans?
- 4:22SPEAKER_00: Well, I think just cool beans in general, because I think we have this idea that we have to be a cool bean.
- 4:28SPEAKER_01: You have to be a cool being.
- 4:29SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 4:30SPEAKER_00: But I think we can change the dynamic of being a cool being.
- 4:33SPEAKER_00: And instead of being what the world thinks is a cool being, we can be spiritual cool beings, right?
- 4:39SPEAKER_00: Through acts of kindness and the way we treat others and change the world that way.
- 4:43SPEAKER_01: It's very uh enlightening to talk about these type of beans, I think.
- 4:47SPEAKER_01: I think so too.
- 4:48SPEAKER_01: People get people get when we talk about spiritual beings, people get a little nervous and they're like, I don't really know.
- 4:52SPEAKER_01: But now we're able to talk about it and especially cool beans.
- 4:56SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 4:56SPEAKER_00: Like I said, well, hit it again.
- 5:00unknown: Cool beans!
- 5:01SPEAKER_00: Cool beans.
- 5:02SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
- 5:03SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 5:03SPEAKER_00: So I think, yeah, a lot of people think of spiritual beans as this it's just too much to get into, but really, you just gotta break it down.
- 5:11SPEAKER_00: You just gotta break it down.
- 5:13SPEAKER_01: Once you see it in these these things that you've brought to my attention, I haven't really seen spiritual beans in this light before.
- 5:18SPEAKER_00: So I also think with it being Easter, we should talk about the jelly bean.
- 5:26SPEAKER_00: The jelly bean is one of my favorites.
- 5:30SPEAKER_00: I think we all need to be worried sometimes about the jelly bean, because I think the jelly bean is something that it might look very spiritual on the outside, very bright colors, very sweet exterior, so to speak.
- 5:42SPEAKER_00: So it can kind of lure us in.
- 5:43SPEAKER_00: I can lure it in a lot.
- 5:45SPEAKER_00: Yes, me too.
- 5:46SPEAKER_00: Inside, they have no protein, they have no substance, you know what I mean?
- 5:50SPEAKER_00: So it's really just sugar, it's sugar, colorful sugar.
- 5:53SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 5:54SPEAKER_00: So we have to be, you know, as we're talking about spiritual beans, the jelly bean is one we should be aware of and understand that, you know, we don't have to steer clear, but we also need to know it's like uh a sheep in wolf's clothing kind of dang it.
- 6:08SPEAKER_01: One of my favorite beans is now trying to lead me astray.
- 6:11SPEAKER_00: It's one of my favorite beans, too, but we should at least know that there's no protein in there.
- 6:16SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
- 6:17SPEAKER_01: You're right.
- 6:18SPEAKER_01: No protein in those beans, no no substance.
- 6:21SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 6:22SPEAKER_00: What we were talking a little bit before this podcast.
- 6:25SPEAKER_00: What what are your take on spiritual beans?
- 6:27SPEAKER_00: What's some of the things that you've discovered in your reading?
- 6:31SPEAKER_01: How spiritual beans are, I guess.
- 6:33SPEAKER_01: Going to the Bible, you gotta look for where do beans show up.
- 6:37SPEAKER_01: And so I was the Bible doesn't really mention specifically where these beans show up sometimes.
- 6:43SPEAKER_01: There's one passage where David's on the run from his son after you know all the things go wrong in his life, and he's on the run from the show.
- 6:50SPEAKER_00: David's on the run.
- 6:51SPEAKER_01: He is running.
- 6:51SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 6:52SPEAKER_01: And he's stuck somewhere and he's he's eating things.
- 6:54SPEAKER_01: It says he was eating some some beans along with some other stuff, and so he was sustained by these beans, and so I see that.
- 7:00SPEAKER_00: Those weren't jelly beans.
- 7:02SPEAKER_01: Nope, those were the good beans.
- 7:03SPEAKER_01: Yes, those were probably some lentils or something like that.
- 7:05SPEAKER_01: Very uh party and keeping him going.
- 7:08SPEAKER_01: So that's one thing I saw when I was doing some research on spiritual beans.
- 7:11SPEAKER_00: Good.
- 7:12SPEAKER_01: Some other ones, I think we can kind of imply some beans somewhere.
- 7:16SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 7:17SPEAKER_01: And so they don't really specifically.
- 7:18SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of beans hidden in scripture.
- 7:20SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of people eating food in the Bible.
- 7:23SPEAKER_01: That's true.
- 7:23SPEAKER_01: All right, they get together for meals.
- 7:24SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of people we know that eat food.
- 7:27SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 7:27SPEAKER_01: I eat food.
- 7:28unknown: Yeah.
- 7:29SPEAKER_00: I think almost every person I know eats food.
- 7:32SPEAKER_01: So there's a lot of there's a lot of meal sharing, I guess you could say the Bible.
- 7:37SPEAKER_01: But I'm thinking beans show up a lot more often than we really can tell.
- 7:41SPEAKER_00: Well, I think if you take the fact that a bean is kind of a seed, you'll see the word seed a lot.
- 7:48SPEAKER_00: Oh, you know, in in scriptures.
- 7:50SPEAKER_01: This gets me to like, there's like a crazy farmer Jesus talks about.
- 7:54SPEAKER_01: He's throwing seed everywhere.
- 7:56SPEAKER_00: Yes, that guy's doesn't really come up, but doesn't grow.
- 7:59SPEAKER_00: As a farmer, I would think he would know where to throw the seed, but a lot of times he doesn't.
- 8:05SPEAKER_01: He doesn't.
- 8:05SPEAKER_01: He just chucks it out there.
- 8:07SPEAKER_01: He's a crazy farmer.
- 8:08SPEAKER_00: He farms a lot like I do.
- 8:09SPEAKER_01: But I'm thinking he was a bean farmer.
- 8:10SPEAKER_00: That would make sense.
- 8:11SPEAKER_01: And those were bean seeds.
- 8:12SPEAKER_01: That would make sense.
- 8:13SPEAKER_01: And some of the bad beans that we don't really want, like jelly bean seeds.
- 8:16SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 8:17SPEAKER_01: He's like, I don't we need these.
- 8:19SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna throw them over here and let the birds have them.
- 8:21SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
- 8:22SPEAKER_01: Then he throws out some other beans and they grow, and so that's good.
- 8:24SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 8:25SPEAKER_01: The good beans.
- 8:25SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 8:27SPEAKER_01: I'm glad we can talk about these highly difficult subjects together.
- 8:32SPEAKER_01: And I I was thinking, you know, sometimes beans show up in a in a story, and you're like, oh, that's not good.
- 8:38SPEAKER_01: There's some deceiving beans.
- 8:40SPEAKER_01: Like in the story of Esau, he he gets tricked out of his birthright and uh, you know, yeah.
- 8:45SPEAKER_01: For some soup or some stew.
- 8:47SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's beans in there.
- 8:49SPEAKER_00: For sure.
- 8:49SPEAKER_01: He was like, these are beans.
- 8:51SPEAKER_01: If it was in if there was no beans, he wouldn't take it.
- 8:53SPEAKER_01: But there was beans in it.
- 8:54SPEAKER_01: He was like, Oh, I gotta have some of these sustaining beans, and then tricky.
- 8:58SPEAKER_01: He was tricky thing to do.
- 9:00SPEAKER_00: Loured and tricked by the beans.
- 9:01SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know.
- 9:02SPEAKER_01: What is uh modern day spiritual beans?
- 9:05SPEAKER_01: You know, like any of any of those you really like, like green beans, or they didn't really have those in the Bible, but we'd have them today.
- 9:11SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm not a big fan of green beans.
- 9:13SPEAKER_00: Uh I don't shy, I don't shy from telling people that.
- 9:16SPEAKER_01: I go to a lot of church things and there seems to be green bean casserole everywhere I look everywhere.
- 9:20SPEAKER_00: Now, green bean casserole is a little different.
- 9:22SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the green bean by itself, not a fan.
- 9:25SPEAKER_00: You put it in a casserole with some of those uh fried onions on top, I'm gonna get some of that.
- 9:31SPEAKER_00: Uh but I think there's also I think we can look at uh the spiritual beans, and kind of I see in the Bible that there are different types of spiritual beans.
- 9:41SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah.
- 9:42SPEAKER_00: Let's hear some of those.
- 9:43SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think we we look at scripture talks about the seraphim.
- 9:46SPEAKER_01: Oh, those are some spiritual beans right there.
- 9:48SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 9:49SPEAKER_00: I think those are like the fiery worshippers, right?
- 9:51SPEAKER_00: So I think to me, those are like the red lentil beans.
- 9:54SPEAKER_01: Red lentil beans, some fiery beans up there.
- 9:56SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
- 9:57SPEAKER_00: So they stand in God's immediate presence, and their name actually means burning ones, right?
- 10:02SPEAKER_00: And they're associated with this like perpetual adoration and the fire of this divine love.
- 10:08SPEAKER_01: And we're getting somewhere now, right?
- 10:10SPEAKER_00: Nice.
- 10:10SPEAKER_00: So I think red lentils kind of represent that intensity and that redness of passion and transformation, right?
- 10:18SPEAKER_00: I agree with that.
- 10:19SPEAKER_00: I'm following.
- 10:19SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think everybody listening is following too.
- 10:21SPEAKER_00: Oh, for sure.
- 10:22SPEAKER_01: They are learning.
- 10:23SPEAKER_00: So red lentils kind of turn the soup, they turn pottage into soup, if you will, through like this heat.
- 10:29SPEAKER_00: And seraphim is kind of like they represent the soul's consumption of of fire, of God's holiness.
- 10:35SPEAKER_01: I'm picking up what you're putting down.
- 10:36SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this is great stuff.
- 10:38SPEAKER_01: And then good job.
- 10:40SPEAKER_00: I gotta say, what's your take on cherubim?
- 10:42SPEAKER_01: Cherubim?
- 10:43SPEAKER_01: Those are guardian spiritual beans, usually.
- 10:45SPEAKER_01: They guard things, they're kind of protectors, they're beefed up a little bit.
- 10:48SPEAKER_01: So I don't know.
- 10:49SPEAKER_00: I think those are like your broad beans, they're your farva beans, if you will.
- 10:52SPEAKER_00: They're the fearsome guardians of sacred spaces, like you talked about, right?
- 10:55SPEAKER_00: Yes, and they're structurally complex and they serve as like shields for the divine presence, right?
- 11:02SPEAKER_00: So the the farva bean is like this mighty food that we find in ancient Israel.
- 11:06SPEAKER_01: You're right.
- 11:07SPEAKER_01: The farva bean was one of the most popular beans in the ancient times.
- 11:10SPEAKER_00: Yes, and it's large.
- 11:12SPEAKER_00: These beans were even believed to hold all kinds of different proteins and and different capabilities that people would be able to have just to sustain through those beans.
- 11:21SPEAKER_01: Do you think when people would go get like some beans for their food back in the day, they were thinking about spiritual beans while they were eating these?
- 11:28SPEAKER_00: I would have to s I would have to assume.
- 11:30SPEAKER_00: I think it's safe to assume that they were.
- 11:31SPEAKER_01: It's safe to assume.
- 11:32SPEAKER_01: I mean, don't we?
- 11:33SPEAKER_01: Don't we what?
- 11:34SPEAKER_00: Think of spiritual beans as we eat beans?
- 11:36SPEAKER_01: Every time I have beans, I clearly think it's spiritual beans.
- 11:38SPEAKER_01: If you and me have talked about spiritual beans for years.
- 11:41SPEAKER_01: For years.
- 11:42SPEAKER_00: If you don't think about spiritual beans when you're eating beans, you will after this podcast.
- 11:46SPEAKER_01: After this podcast, you'll never see a bean the same way again.
- 11:48SPEAKER_00: I I agree with you.
- 11:49SPEAKER_01: Perfect.
- 11:50SPEAKER_00: What about the archangels?
- 11:52SPEAKER_01: Ark.
- 11:53SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what about the archangels?
- 11:54SPEAKER_00: What about them?
- 11:55SPEAKER_00: What do you think about them?
- 11:56SPEAKER_01: They're pretty dang cool.
- 11:57SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're like soldiers, aren't they?
- 11:59SPEAKER_00: I think so.
- 12:00SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I already brought up.
- 12:01SPEAKER_00: I think they're kind of like garbanzo beans, right?
- 12:03SPEAKER_01: Bringing back it to all bringing it back to the garbanzo beans.
- 12:06SPEAKER_00: Yes, they're like the military leaders of the heavenly host, if you will, right?
- 12:10SPEAKER_00: So they're versatile, they're strong, and they're like this the high-level messengers between heaven and earth.
- 12:16SPEAKER_01: I love that, right?
- 12:17SPEAKER_00: That is some good stuff.
- 12:19SPEAKER_00: So garbanzo beans or or chickpeas were known as Egyptian beans in ancient texts.
- 12:26SPEAKER_00: They're incredibly versatile and durable, and they're like warriors' food because they're packed with protein for long-lasting endurance.
- 12:34SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 12:35SPEAKER_00: Much like the archangels who lead the cosmic battles against evil.
- 12:39SPEAKER_01: I had no idea we could go this deep on beans.
- 12:43SPEAKER_00: There's so much.
- 12:44SPEAKER_00: I mean, what about the Malachim, the messenger angels?
- 12:48SPEAKER_01: Oh.
- 12:48SPEAKER_00: I I think those represent white navy beans.
- 12:52SPEAKER_00: White navy.
- 12:52SPEAKER_00: If you think about it, yeah.
- 12:53SPEAKER_00: Bring it in the white.
- 12:54SPEAKER_00: They're like these are like the standard angels that we see interacting with humans, appearing in dreams.
- 12:59SPEAKER_00: They deliver news, providing help in the wilderness in scripture, right?
- 13:03SPEAKER_00: The the the white navy bean is a small, clean, nutritious bean, and they represent nourishment and sustenance provided to those in need.
- 13:13SPEAKER_01: That's pretty cool.
- 13:13SPEAKER_00: So I think there's a lot we can learn from spiritual beans.
- 13:16SPEAKER_01: So much we can learn about these.
- 13:18SPEAKER_01: I just didn't know.
- 13:20SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then of course there's fallen beans, too.
- 13:23SPEAKER_01: Oh, we we haven't really gotten to the fallen beans.
- 13:25SPEAKER_01: We got a little bit on the last podcast, but the fallen beans, big topic.
- 13:29SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the beans that rebelled against God.
- 13:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah, rebellious beans.
- 13:32SPEAKER_00: They're often described as weeds.
- 13:34SPEAKER_00: They look like good seed or good beans, but they don't they don't produce any life.
- 13:38SPEAKER_00: You're right.
- 13:39unknown: Yeah.
- 13:40SPEAKER_00: I this is very insightful stuff.
- 13:42SPEAKER_00: I think so.
- 13:43SPEAKER_00: I hope you're taking notes at home.
- 13:44SPEAKER_00: Oh, you should definitely take notes.
- 13:46SPEAKER_00: I think uh the fallen beans kind of mimic the appearance of a nutritious bean, but they can be bitter or even toxic, right?
- 13:54SPEAKER_00: So that's something you need to be aware of.
- 13:56SPEAKER_00: And it's really good.
- 13:57SPEAKER_01: It's good stuff.
- 13:58SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 13:59SPEAKER_01: I have a fact about beans on the spiritual side.
- 14:03SPEAKER_01: You'd love to hear it, wouldn't you?
- 14:06SPEAKER_00: I would.
- 14:07SPEAKER_00: Definitely would.
- 14:08SPEAKER_01: Well, I was doing some research on beans in general.
- 14:12SPEAKER_00: Just general beans.
- 14:13SPEAKER_01: Just general beans.
- 14:14SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 14:14SPEAKER_00: General beans.
- 14:15SPEAKER_00: General beans.
- 14:16SPEAKER_00: And um Welcome.
- 14:18SPEAKER_01: So I uh found out that the bean is a very nice vegetable that you can add with things, right?
- 14:24SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
- 14:25SPEAKER_01: But scientifically, uh a bean is actually a fruit.
- 14:29SPEAKER_00: What?
- 14:29SPEAKER_01: And we see fruits of the spirit in the Bible.
- 14:32SPEAKER_01: And I think maybe we're taking a little bit off this topic now.
- 14:35SPEAKER_01: Fruit of the spirit is a bean.
- 14:37SPEAKER_00: Well, hello.
- 14:39SPEAKER_01: You know how the song like fruit of the spirit is not a coconut.
- 14:41SPEAKER_01: Well, it is a bean.
- 14:44SPEAKER_01: That's crazy.
- 14:45SPEAKER_01: That's crazy, isn't it?
- 14:46SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and we all know that grapes come in bunches.
- 14:49SPEAKER_01: And grapes come in bunches.
- 14:51SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 14:52SPEAKER_01: And so do beans.
- 14:53SPEAKER_01: So do beans.
- 14:54SPEAKER_01: Bunch of beans.
- 14:56SPEAKER_01: It's all coming together.
- 14:59SPEAKER_01: You ever heard that saying like someone's full of beans?
- 15:01SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
- 15:01SPEAKER_01: And it's like negative.
- 15:03SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 15:03SPEAKER_01: I think we turn it around now, and like full of beans, I mean you're full of like spiritual goodness.
- 15:08SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 15:08SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 15:09SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
- 15:09SPEAKER_01: So if I say you're full of beans, that's like a compliment now.
- 15:12SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 15:12SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna take it as one.
- 15:13SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I definitely will.
- 15:15SPEAKER_01: Just some different things to think about.
- 15:16SPEAKER_01: Just throwing it out there.
- 15:18SPEAKER_00: I think the Bible also talks a lot about how we can mature as beans, right?
- 15:25SPEAKER_00: Matured beans.
- 15:26SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think we can mature.
- 15:28SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 15:28SPEAKER_00: I think the Bible talks about how, you know, before before a bean can be planted, the ground must be ready for that, right?
- 15:35SPEAKER_00: The soil, the Bible talks about is like the human heart.
- 15:38SPEAKER_01: Oh, I had this in my notes too, about the soil.
- 15:40SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure.
- 15:42SPEAKER_00: So, you know, a hardened soil, like a calloused heart, cannot receive a bean, cannot receive a seed.
- 15:51SPEAKER_00: It has to be tilled.
- 15:52SPEAKER_01: It does.
- 15:52SPEAKER_00: Right?
- 15:53SPEAKER_00: It has to be tilled through humility and through repentance to kind of soften that soil or soften your heart so a spiritual being can take root.
- 16:02SPEAKER_01: Be ready for it.
- 16:03SPEAKER_01: Make sure your heart's ready.
- 16:05SPEAKER_00: You have to.
- 16:06SPEAKER_00: You have to.
- 16:06SPEAKER_00: And and any good gardener will tell you, you need to weed.
- 16:10SPEAKER_01: Get the weeds out.
- 16:11SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you gotta you gotta actively remove weeds, thorns, distractions in life like worry, greed.
- 16:19SPEAKER_01: Get rid of all that stuff and just replace it with the beans.
- 16:21SPEAKER_00: Because what's it really doing?
- 16:23SPEAKER_00: It's just trying to take the nutrients away from the bean.
- 16:25SPEAKER_00: I agree.
- 16:26SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you gotta have good soil, so your beans are good beans.
- 16:30SPEAKER_00: There you go.
- 16:31SPEAKER_00: You don't want just a bunch of jelly beans sprouting up.
- 16:33SPEAKER_01: Just jelly beans everywhere.
- 16:35SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I think the spiritual bean is kind of the word of God that's planted within us, if you will.
- 16:41SPEAKER_01: I will.
- 16:42SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 16:43SPEAKER_00: So just like a farmer doesn't fully understand how a seed sprouts, spiritual growth, we're not gonna fully understand that, but it's a miraculous process that's driven through God's power, right?
- 16:57SPEAKER_00: It's not just our human effort, it's our connection to Him.
- 17:01SPEAKER_01: Connected to the vine?
- 17:02SPEAKER_00: Yes, the ultimate farmer.
- 17:05SPEAKER_01: Ultimate farmer.
- 17:06SPEAKER_00: For sure.
- 17:06SPEAKER_01: I didn't I've never heard Jesus called that before.
- 17:09SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, you have now.
- 17:11SPEAKER_01: I like it.
- 17:11SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it goes by many names.
- 17:14SPEAKER_00: He does.
- 17:15SPEAKER_01: Ultimate farmer.
- 17:16SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's in there.
- 17:18SPEAKER_00: I'm sure.
- 17:19SPEAKER_01: Good.
- 17:19SPEAKER_00: It should be if it's not.
- 17:21SPEAKER_00: I like it.
- 17:23SPEAKER_00: And I think you know, for a bean to grow, what has to happen?
- 17:26SPEAKER_00: The outer shell has to break, right?
- 17:29SPEAKER_01: That's true.
- 17:30SPEAKER_01: I kind of I think I forgot about the many parts of beans.
- 17:32SPEAKER_00: I think that kind of mirrors the death of our old self to allow this new spiritual life to emerge.
- 17:38SPEAKER_01: That is really that's actually pretty good.
- 17:41SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right?
- 17:42SPEAKER_00: I think it's a lot like that.
- 17:44SPEAKER_00: No.
- 17:44SPEAKER_00: And you know what we need to grow?
- 17:48SPEAKER_01: Something?
- 17:48SPEAKER_00: Living water.
- 17:49SPEAKER_01: I was gonna say, you gotta water it.
- 17:52SPEAKER_01: You have the right water.
- 17:54SPEAKER_00: You mean living water?
- 17:55SPEAKER_00: Right?
- 17:55SPEAKER_00: Jesus is the living water.
- 17:57SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 17:57SPEAKER_00: Through scripture, through prayer, we need that.
- 18:01SPEAKER_01: That's really good.
- 18:02SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 18:03SPEAKER_00: And I think you know, the Bible talks about that while one person may plant, another one may water.
- 18:09SPEAKER_00: And we all have our jobs, right?
- 18:11SPEAKER_00: At different times, but God's the only one that can make the bean grow.
- 18:16SPEAKER_01: That is so true.
- 18:19SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 18:20SPEAKER_01: Sometimes we just try to do our own bean thing.
- 18:23SPEAKER_01: For sure.
- 18:24SPEAKER_01: And we just have to let God do it instead.
- 18:27SPEAKER_01: He knows best.
- 18:28SPEAKER_01: He is the bean expert above any of us, even you.
- 18:31SPEAKER_00: You know what?
- 18:32SPEAKER_00: And and we're busy looking at other beans to say, hey, that bean stalk is better than my bean sprout.
- 18:40SPEAKER_00: Why does that bean better than me?
- 18:42SPEAKER_00: And God sees what's inside.
- 18:44SPEAKER_01: Sprout, stalk, it doesn't matter.
- 18:46SPEAKER_01: It's the content of the bean itself.
- 18:47SPEAKER_01: It's it's you know it's just a distraction.
- 18:50SPEAKER_01: It's a distraction.
- 18:50SPEAKER_00: It's a distraction for sure.
- 18:52SPEAKER_01: Don't let other beans steal your joy.
- 18:54SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's good.
- 18:55SPEAKER_00: How about that?
- 18:56SPEAKER_00: That's good.
- 18:56SPEAKER_00: I like that.
- 18:57SPEAKER_00: That don't let ever other beans steal your joy.
- 19:00SPEAKER_00: It's hard to do though.
- 19:01SPEAKER_01: And it's difficult, but we can do it together.
- 19:04SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think as God plants the spiritual being in our heart, it's it's our goal to kind of produce a harvest, right?
- 19:10SPEAKER_00: So as we mature, mature into our spiritual being, you begin to kind of exhibit, as you said, the fruits of the spirit.
- 19:17SPEAKER_01: I know.
- 19:18SPEAKER_01: It's all coming back together.
- 19:20SPEAKER_00: That's crazy.
- 19:20SPEAKER_01: And the best way to do this is together, like in a church setting or like in a group of Christians.
- 19:25SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 19:26SPEAKER_01: Like a pod.
- 19:26SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 19:27SPEAKER_00: You want to be in a pod.
- 19:29SPEAKER_00: Or in a podcast to talk about being in a pod.
- 19:32SPEAKER_01: It's all it's about the pods.
- 19:34SPEAKER_01: Bean pods, you gotta get your bean pods so you can kind of keep growing together.
- 19:38SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 19:38SPEAKER_00: Like I think there's there's obviously some lots of comparisons here, right?
- 19:43SPEAKER_00: In preparation for the bean, you gotta plow, remove the rocks.
- 19:46SPEAKER_00: Spiritually, you gotta you gotta cultivate a teachable, humble heart.
- 19:50SPEAKER_00: Sowing, you gotta you gotta plant the bead in the dirt.
- 19:54SPEAKER_00: You gotta plant it.
- 19:55SPEAKER_00: You gotta plant the word of God into your life.
- 19:58SPEAKER_00: Right?
- 19:58SPEAKER_00: Nurturing, you gotta water, provide light.
- 20:00SPEAKER_00: Obviously, we need light.
- 20:02SPEAKER_01: Do you need light?
- 20:03SPEAKER_00: We need Jesus.
- 20:03SPEAKER_00: We need a relationship.
- 20:04SPEAKER_00: We need to worship him.
- 20:05SPEAKER_00: We need prayer.
- 20:06SPEAKER_00: We need to read his word.
- 20:08SPEAKER_00: And then the harvest.
- 20:10SPEAKER_00: Pick the mature crop, live out our Christ-like character and shine and help others.
- 20:17SPEAKER_01: That's what it's all about.
- 20:19SPEAKER_01: I think that we can take this idea of spiritual beings and go so far with it.
- 20:22SPEAKER_01: And that's the main point right there, what you just said.
- 20:25SPEAKER_01: All the other stuff that we talked about, take it or leave it.
- 20:28SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 20:29SPEAKER_00: But our job is obviously to spread the word.
- 20:34SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 20:35SPEAKER_01: I agree.
- 20:36SPEAKER_00: We want to make heaven crowded.
- 20:37SPEAKER_01: We'll make heaven crowded.
- 20:38SPEAKER_00: We we both agree with that.
- 20:39SPEAKER_00: That's our job.
- 20:40SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 20:40SPEAKER_01: We want people to get there.
- 20:41SPEAKER_01: We want people to know Jesus, who he is.
- 20:43SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 20:44SPEAKER_00: What he's all about.
- 20:45SPEAKER_00: And we can show him by the way we treat him.
- 20:46SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 20:47SPEAKER_01: I agree.
- 20:48SPEAKER_01: It's good stuff.
- 20:49SPEAKER_00: I'm glad you invited me on this today.
- 20:50SPEAKER_01: This was great.
- 20:51SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 20:51SPEAKER_01: I think this was a very informative, insightful.
- 20:54SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 20:55SPEAKER_01: I think people will enjoy this episode.
- 20:58SPEAKER_00: You can gain so much knowledge from learning about just just all kinds of beans.
- 21:03SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 21:04SPEAKER_01: And you just gotta say yes to God.
- 21:08SPEAKER_01: I think.
- 21:09SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 21:09SPEAKER_01: When he's asking to do things, and just gotta It's not rocking science.
- 21:13SPEAKER_01: Just say yes and we'll move on.
- 21:15SPEAKER_01: That's what he's saying.
- 21:16SPEAKER_00: That's perfect.
- 21:17SPEAKER_01: I think that's exactly what he's saying.
- 21:19SPEAKER_01: Just say yes to what I what I tell you.
- 21:21SPEAKER_01: Follow my commands, and it'll be great.
- 21:23SPEAKER_01: We'll move on with life, and it'll be great.
- 21:25SPEAKER_00: Much better.
- 21:26SPEAKER_00: And all those other things in life that you're worried about, they really don't amount to a hill of beans.
- 21:31SPEAKER_00: A hill of beans, and that's what we'll leave you with.
- 21:36SPEAKER_00: What are we gonna talk about next time?
- 21:37SPEAKER_01: Oh, I don't know.
- 21:38SPEAKER_01: I don't know what we'll get into next time.
- 21:40SPEAKER_01: We'll have to have another bonus episode someday.
- 21:42SPEAKER_00: I think we should maybe talk a little bit about human beings.
- 21:46SPEAKER_01: Oh human beings.
- 21:48SPEAKER_01: I think we should talk about we've talked about the spiritual beings today.
- 21:51SPEAKER_01: Right?
- 21:51SPEAKER_01: Gotten into all that.
- 21:52SPEAKER_01: I think you should join us next time, and we'll go really in depth about a six hour long episode on human beings.
- 21:59SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 22:00SPEAKER_01: You back for that.
- 22:00SPEAKER_01: We'll set a time.
- 22:01SPEAKER_01: I'm excited for that.
- 22:02SPEAKER_01: I'm excited for that.
- 22:02SPEAKER_01: Um, if you like this one, you're gonna love that one.
- 22:05SPEAKER_01: It's gonna I think we need about six hours set aside for that.
- 22:08SPEAKER_00: So yeah, we can go through the whole process of sanctification or perfect if you will, germination, if as far as beans go.
- 22:15SPEAKER_01: As far as beans go, yeah.
- 22:16SPEAKER_01: As far as this podcast, we're signing off for the day.
- 22:20SPEAKER_00: Sounds great to me.
- 22:21SPEAKER_01: Appreciate you coming in and talking to us.
- 22:23SPEAKER_01: Hope you guys enjoy your April 1st every day.
- 22:26SPEAKER_00: Yeah, enjoy this.