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Mac & Bone Hour 1: Duke & CLT Both Win & Todd Wash Speaks · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: What's up, party people? Bueno, como estas? Oh, oh, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's Mike and Bo. This is my friend, Matt. I'm
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  Speaker 1: dumber than usual today. This is my friend, T-Bone. You
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  Speaker 1: are a dynamic doo-doo. You guys are the best. Pony, pony, pony, pony.
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  Speaker 1: They're the best. I love those guys. I'm the Usain
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  Speaker 1: Bolt of farters. City kissing is delightful.
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  Speaker 2: All right, one time for the one time. You're listening
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  Speaker 2: to the Mackin' Bo Show on Mackin' Bo Radio.
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  Speaker 1: Good football Friday morning, everybody, on the Mac and Bone Show.
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  Speaker 1: With a little bit of Hornets concern and College Hoops
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  Speaker 1: recap from last night thrown in, but it's go time.
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  Speaker 1: This is a mammoth football weekend. The Panthers-Broncos game is
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  Speaker 1: huge for this team. Can they get back on track?
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  Speaker 1: Can they block anybody? We're going to talk, obviously, all
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  Speaker 1: about it today. Can Sean Payton get some comeuppance? from
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  Speaker 1: our beloved Carolina Panthers. The college football slate is quite
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  Speaker 1: honestly the best of the dang year with six ranked matchups.
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  Speaker 1: And then you throw in how big these games are
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  Speaker 1: for local teams. South Carolina, can they keep it going? Carolina,
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  Speaker 1: this is a game like you have to win if
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  Speaker 1: you want to I think get the record you want
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  Speaker 1: to end up with. And you've got state and Duke
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  Speaker 1: juicy little triangle battle. So we got a lot of
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  Speaker 1: stuff to talk about on the show today. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to have some fun on this Friday. We got the
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  Speaker 1: bone man in the house. We got fit daddy who
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  Speaker 1: is getting ready to head off to Chapel Hill tonight.
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  Speaker 1: to see his tar heels. And he's heading to the chapel.
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  Speaker 1: That is a, that may be a better Friday night. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: it might be a better Friday night option. The way
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  Speaker 1: the heels have been playing, but only what's going on.
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: How are you feeling this week? Not weekend. I'm overwhelmed.
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  Speaker 1: Almost weekend. I'm already overwhelmed. This slate.
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  Speaker 3: Of sports action and it's not just saturday obviously we've
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  Speaker 3: got the panthers on sunday we've got nascar championships we've
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  Speaker 3: got a big college basketball game right in the middle
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  Speaker 3: of the nfl on sunday we'll talk about tonight's loaded
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  Speaker 3: up with uh basketball that we talked about we got
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  Speaker 3: football we got the hornets this is top to bottom
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  Speaker 3: a loaded up sports weekend i'm here for it it's
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  Speaker 3: It's juicy, man. This is why we grind and we
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  Speaker 3: fight through the months of May, June, July to get
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  Speaker 3: to days like this where we can come on here
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  Speaker 3: and we can make our picks and we can hit
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  Speaker 3: those picks at a 24% rate. How about me getting
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  Speaker 3: back into gambling business this weekend, baby?
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  Speaker 1: Bone got me back in. Well, the wheel got me
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  Speaker 1: back in, obviously.
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  Speaker 3: Now you could also just take Picante's money and put
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  Speaker 3: it towards your sub money.
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  Speaker 1: I did think about that, too, but I am going to. Oh, Picante, here's, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to get back into gambling game, baby. I
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  Speaker 1: got $ 20 from Picante. If I hit all three picks,
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  Speaker 1: Picante gets to keep his segment. If not, Picante's picks
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  Speaker 1: will be no longer be nothing but an Instagram-only thing.
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  Speaker 3: Someone pointed out this whole will Picante keep his segment
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  Speaker 3: thing is stretching into November now. Pretty soon it's going
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  Speaker 3: to be the end of the season, and Picante is
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  Speaker 3: going to have done picks every single Friday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that could happen. We have a hard
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  Speaker 1: time quitting Picante, even though he keeps losing things.
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  Speaker 3: The funniest part about him is he gets nervous every
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  Speaker 3: time he comes on and starts drinking his whiskey at
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  Speaker 3: 7 a.m. He's been on like 10 times now.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy that he needs to sauce it up
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  Speaker 1: a little bit in the morning in order to be
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  Speaker 1: on the air? Um, he is amusing on the air,
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  Speaker 1: so I guess keep doing that. Um, uh, but anyway,
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  Speaker 1: he can't be the only listener that's drinking at 6am. No,
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  Speaker 1: that's fair. That is fair. Uh, people thought I was
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  Speaker 1: drinking at 6am yesterday, uh, with some of the mistakes
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  Speaker 1: I was making. Um, all right, so let's, let's get
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  Speaker 1: into this. Let's start with last night before we move
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  Speaker 1: forward to tonight. And the Hornets news, which is not surprising,
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  Speaker 1: but it's not good. We'll get to that in a second.
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  Speaker 1: But let's start with the college basketball. Last night, Boney,
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  Speaker 1: sure enough, the Duke Blue Devils did what we thought
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  Speaker 1: they would do. Respond emphatically. You get the feeling John
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  Speaker 1: Shire was not happy with the Army game, even though
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  Speaker 1: they won by 30 plus. And they were going to
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  Speaker 1: probably take it out. on coastal and that happened last
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  Speaker 1: night bone what a beat.
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  Speaker 3: Down i don't think the final score is indicative of
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  Speaker 3: how bad that actually was uh it was 153 to
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  Speaker 3: 52 uh duke caught off the dogs and put in
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  Speaker 3: the end of the uh i mean the end of
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  Speaker 3: the lineup is still much better than coastal but they
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  Speaker 3: put in some of the freshmen and other guys charnowski
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  Speaker 3: didn't play last night mackers they didn't put um They
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  Speaker 3: didn't keep the guys in the— 113-52.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, 113-52. You had it 153-52. Oh, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it could have been if they actually would have
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  Speaker 3: played the guys all the way through. Some of the
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  Speaker 3: numbers in this game. Duke shoots 50% from three, a
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  Speaker 3: far cry from what they did against Army. They out-rebounded
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  Speaker 3: Port Coastal, 53-27. And the number that I like here—
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  Speaker 3: And I know that the opponent is lesser, but I
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  Speaker 3: still like this number. Duke had 25 assists on 38
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  Speaker 3: made field goals last night.
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  Speaker 1: That ball was unselfish. That ball be popping last night.
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  Speaker 1: Boozer had 12 assists by himself. They started out the
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  Speaker 1: game 16-0. It was then 43-10. And the fact that
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  Speaker 1: Bone is upset it was only 61 points I think
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  Speaker 1: goes to show how loaded this Duke team is.
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  Speaker 3: It's got to say, they had a lot of turnovers early.
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  Speaker 1: Duke had seven turnovers right away.
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  Speaker 2: They were.
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  Speaker 1: They were forcing so many coastal turnovers. If you didn't
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  Speaker 1: turn the ball over, maybe you can win by more.
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  Speaker 1: You want Shire to yell at them some more? The
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  Speaker 1: depth is just amazing. They could field two ranked basketball teams.
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  Speaker 1: I truly do believe that. And they're entertaining to watch
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  Speaker 1: because no matter... And.
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  Speaker 3: With a 76-team field, are you allowed two teams in now?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think they should go two Duke teams, split squad?
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  Speaker 1: Good for ratings. It's... It's going to be very interesting
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  Speaker 1: to see when the games get bigger. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: the games start getting bigger on Tuesday when they play
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  Speaker 1: Michigan State. I mean, they play four of the top
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  Speaker 1: six teams in the non-conference over the next few weeks. So, like,
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  Speaker 1: I want to see how the rotation kind of develops, man,
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  Speaker 1: because those are competitive rotation battles, man.
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  Speaker 3: Four of their next six games are Michigan State, Illinois, UConn, Florida. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: so four of the next six are top six teams.
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  Speaker 3: They have a Washington State kind of random game. They
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  Speaker 3: had to give ESPN Max some inventory because of the
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  Speaker 3: whole hubbub with the... the rights to the Michigan game
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  Speaker 3: that happens. They had to play– the way they're doing
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  Speaker 3: that Amazon deal, they owe ESPN some additional games. So
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  Speaker 3: like a Washington State game, for example, popped up on there.
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  Speaker 3: They've also got SIU Edwardsville. But besides that, there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of big-time matches going on. But I think that's
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  Speaker 3: good for the sport that they're involved in all these games.
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  Speaker 1: Heck yeah, it is, man. I love it. I love it.
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch them be more tested. I
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  Speaker 1: thought they were going to call the Coast Guard to
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  Speaker 1: try to help out Coastal last night. Big Pat had
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  Speaker 1: himself a game. Yeah, he just dominated. It was one
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  Speaker 1: of those games where, like, Big Pat is bigger and
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  Speaker 1: better than anything they've got in the paint. And he
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  Speaker 1: just absolutely dominated, painted it with 28 points last night.
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  Speaker 1: I loved the Charlotte game. Um, uh, home stretch bony.
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  Speaker 1: It looked, they, they were not shooting it well for
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  Speaker 1: much of this game ended up six of 18 from three. Um,
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  Speaker 1: they were down, I want to say like nine with
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  Speaker 1: around five minutes left to go. And it didn't look
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  Speaker 1: good for their home opener at Halton. And they just
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  Speaker 1: went off to finish this basketball game. The combination of
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  Speaker 1: Keyshawn Tillery, their star guard bone, and Miguel Allen on
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  Speaker 1: the inside. Miguel Allen started just making play after play.
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  Speaker 1: Some of them were hustle plays. Steals, rebounds, some of
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  Speaker 1: them were baskets inside. But he was huge. He ended
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  Speaker 1: with 13-5 and three assists and two steals last night.
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  Speaker 1: And Tillery ended up with 24 points. in this game,
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  Speaker 1: Bone Man. They ended up winning by 10, 77-67. Strong finish.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to act, Bone, like it was the
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  Speaker 1: prettiest game the whole way through for the Niners, but
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  Speaker 1: that was like they turned it up when they had to.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Tillery turned it on, especially late. He did not
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  Speaker 3: get off to the start that he necessarily had in
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  Speaker 3: game one, but he finished with great numbers. Them being 2-0,
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  Speaker 3: some people would say, oh, they only beat Indiana State
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  Speaker 3: and Georgia State, that's a big deal for Charlotte. They have–
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  Speaker 3: how many times have they lost one of these early
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  Speaker 3: games in our time here where that just– almost is
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  Speaker 3: a resume killer right away, where they lose to a
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  Speaker 3: team back in the RPI days, now the net days,
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  Speaker 3: where you say that loss right there, if you're trying
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  Speaker 3: to beat something at all, and they really haven't ended
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  Speaker 3: up being that, but even if they wanted to be,
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  Speaker 3: they have these killer losses. So that is a game
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  Speaker 3: last night that we have seen them lose.
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  Speaker 1: So many times.
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  Speaker 3: And it started out that way a little bit, where
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  Speaker 3: it's like, oh, no, don't lose your first home game, Charles.
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  Speaker 3: But that showed me last night, different coach, Different mindset.
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  Speaker 3: They won a game that they don't often win where
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  Speaker 3: they're losing early. It doesn't feel like it's going well.
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  Speaker 3: They're 2-0. That's important for Charlotte. And a big name
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  Speaker 3: back in the house last night watching Wes Miller.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. Wes had, I hope I'm talking about the
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  Speaker 1: same big name as you. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: O'Roy.
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  Speaker 1: O'Roy.
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  Speaker 4: O'Roy.
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  Speaker 1: Now, did he take one? It wasn't Alan Cochran, our listener.
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  Speaker 1: Did one? Ha, ha. Was AC in the house? He
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  Speaker 1: had to be, right? Absolutely. This team's winning now. He's
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  Speaker 1: not going anywhere. Did Wanda go, too? Did he take
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  Speaker 1: Wanda on his magical basketball tour? She was there. Okay, nice, nice.
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  Speaker 1: So let's, um, let's, let's speaking of that, let's go
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  Speaker 1: to West. He's got the, he's got their occasions. He
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  Speaker 1: does their own life. Three is his life. Three 60
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  Speaker 1: has Roy and Wanda on it. Uh, most of us
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  Speaker 1: monitor our kids on there. Um, uh, so let's get
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  Speaker 1: to it. This is Wes Miller after the game talking about, uh,
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  Speaker 1: what it meant to him to have Roy there for
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  Speaker 1: the home opener.
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  Speaker 2: Special.
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  Speaker 5: Uh, you know, like I, it, it, It's really interesting
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  Speaker 5: because since the day I told him I was going
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  Speaker 5: to go play for him at North Carolina, it's been consistent.
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  Speaker 5: And that's a credit to the man that he is
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  Speaker 5: and how genuine he is. He's been a consistent part
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  Speaker 5: of my life and my coaching journey every.
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  Speaker 1: Step of the way.
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  Speaker 5: So it's special, but it's all the time. He's been
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  Speaker 5: at practice already. He'll be at more games. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I just feel like I'm really fortunate to have him
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  Speaker 5: in my corner and in my life. It reminds me
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  Speaker 5: of the responsibility I have with the guys that I coach.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, truly special to have him here. Love that
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: last part. He's like, I want to be the Roy
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  Speaker 1: Williams to these guys. You know what I mean? I
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  Speaker 1: like that. It's a big deal that he's there.
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  Speaker 3: Now I haven't seen it yet, but there could be
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  Speaker 3: some Charlotte fans that say, we need to build our
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  Speaker 3: own path, get old deputy dog out of our building.
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  Speaker 3: How dare you, Niner fans? I'm not saying that, but
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  Speaker 3: I think there could be some fans that feel that way.
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  Speaker 1: How dare you? I would say having Roy there in
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  Speaker 1: his presence, a big deal. Maybe McRoy. Maybe Roy just
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  Speaker 1: wanted to watch some good basketball this season. Oh, man.
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  Speaker 1: Fitty don't like that one. Fitty's got some concerns about
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  Speaker 1: Wofford tonight. Definitely. Definitely. Speaking of Wake Forest, or speaking
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: of bad basketball, I messed the segue up. Speaking of
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  Speaker 1: bad basketball, that was Wake Forest last night. Now, listen,
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  Speaker 1: they're playing a ranked Vandy team, but Wake only scored
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  Speaker 1: 54 points, Bone. Their shooting was horrendous. Look at this
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  Speaker 1: shooting slash as a team here. 35% from the field, 23%
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  Speaker 1: from three, and 50% free throws. Any form of shooting
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  Speaker 1: last night was horrible, even when they weren't being guarded
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  Speaker 1: at the foul line. UGLY, you do not have that alibi. Dude,
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  Speaker 1: and at the other end, they can't get a damn rebound. Like,
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  Speaker 1: they actually played pretty good first shot defense on Vandy.
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  Speaker 1: They were in the game there for a while, then
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  Speaker 1: it just completely fell apart. Bro, 17 offensive rebounds allowed.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. So we've got college hoops tonight. We
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  Speaker 1: do have that, the Carolina Wofford game that Fitty is
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  Speaker 1: sweating over. We got NC State against somebody tonight. I
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  Speaker 1: got to be honest. I don't even really, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: even remember Wofford until you said it. I just know
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  Speaker 1: who's playing and I just make a point to watch
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  Speaker 1: them play. I don't even know who NC State plays
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  Speaker 1: because no offense to these teams, but But you're just
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  Speaker 1: kind of, I don't know. I shouldn't say that. Heels
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  Speaker 1: can mess around and lose. I shouldn't say that.
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  Speaker 3: This is a new game. Who are they playing for
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  Speaker 3: the MAAC? It's a NC State game tonight. MAAC ACC
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  Speaker 3: Network Extra. It's a directional school from a state next
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  Speaker 3: to ours.
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  Speaker 1: Southeast South Carolina? I don't know if that's a school.
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  Speaker 1: I was flailing. I didn't have any. Virginia? Something in Virginia?
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  Speaker 1: It's a directional school, Mac, located in Tennessee. Oh, Tennessee.
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  Speaker 3: In a certain part of Tennessee, not the western part
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  Speaker 3: of Tennessee. East Tennessee?
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  Speaker 1: Yes. There you go. Okay. Ding, ding, ding. There you go.
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  Speaker 1: It took me a while to get there. Finney, do
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: you like this game show? This is a new fun
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: game show. Trying to turn me into Charles Barkley. Damn it.
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: It ain't hard. It is not hard. Sidney, we could
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: ask Mack again at 7, and we may not get
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: the right answer. I got it now. I'm good, baby.
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: He's Tennessee now. I'm ready to roll. I do know
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  Speaker 1: who the Hornets play tonight. I will not dare disrespect
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics who are in town with this sort
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: of rhetoric. Off to a good start at 6-2, despite
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: the Jalen Brown trade. And the news here locally, though, Bone,
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: is what we figured would be the case, and I
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: fear it will be the case for a lot of
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: games here, is that Conn Knipple will not play. He
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  Speaker 1: is out with a hamstring strain. So what we feared bone,
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: he did the hamstring again. So I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: he was brought back too soon. It's a legit question.
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  Speaker 1: If so, that's a mistake.
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  Speaker 3: And it happened not only six minutes in his return,
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  Speaker 3: as we illustrated yesterday, but It wasn't really much of
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  Speaker 3: anything going on on the play either. It wasn't like
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: Mackey was on a fast break or chasing down someone
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  Speaker 3: on a block or even running through screens. He was
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: just bending over to get the ball and a pass.
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  Speaker 3: It was a very basic play that he's probably done, Mac,
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  Speaker 3: a million times just warming up. So that's a little
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  Speaker 3: concerning there, too. It wasn't like he had, it wasn't
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  Speaker 3: like something crazy happened to him. So the feeling is
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  Speaker 3: probably that it was going to happen at some point.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if it wasn't there, I mean, God,
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  Speaker 1: if he starts running down the court, it's probably going
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  Speaker 1: to happen. So was he ready to play? Doesn't appear so.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's, you know, it's frustrating. It
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  Speaker 1: just is. Everything that's happened is frustrating. I mean, there's just,
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  Speaker 1: there's no denying it. And then throw this one in, too, Bone. Moosa,
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  Speaker 1: also questionable. Or not also, because Khan's out. But Moussa's
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  Speaker 1: now questionable, and Dennis Schroeder's questionable. Now, we saw Schroeder's injury.
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  Speaker 1: They kept showing it on the broadcast. Him over there,
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: upper leg muscle, whatever was going on there. But Moussa's
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  Speaker 1: something I did not know was happening, Bone, the other night.
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  Speaker 1: But he's got an injury that he's dealing with, and
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: he is questionable tonight against the Celtics. We will talk later, Bone.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Most of the show today will be pretty upbeat, like...
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: the you know unless you think the panthers are going
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: to get routed that might not be upbeat to you
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  Speaker 1: but most it's going to be hey can the panthers
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  Speaker 1: bounce back let's talk about the game let's celebrate the
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: big college football weekend and all that stuff there will
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: be one segment bone that will serve as charlotte sports
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: fan therapy okay when we ask the question that everybody
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: today would just love to discuss which team is frustrating
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: you more which team's regressions bone Have frustrated you more,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: the Hornets or the Panthers? The Hornets or the Panthers?
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  Speaker 3: I was going to say the same thing. Matt, we
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: are a show for the upbeat and the mentally beaten.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: We're going to try to cover all those places.
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  Speaker 3: So if you are, you know, a Sam Farber type personality,
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: we've got stuff for you. If you are like our texter, Richie,
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: and you hate everything and you love people being sad
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: and mad, we've got something for you, too.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: There you go. That's a good way of putting it.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: I think that is a good way of putting it. Tonight, also...
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Also good football tonight, man. Good football games. Good football
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: games tonight. We've got SMU and Virginia Tech playing a
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: big one. Both those teams are 6-2. Two conference losses each.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: At two conference losses, you could still see a path
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: where maybe they could win a tiebreaker, right? I don't
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: mean to bring up tiebreakers in the ACC like last year,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: but maybe it happens again. But whoever loses this game, Bone,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: they could say goodbye to their chances of being in
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: an ACC title game here in Charlotte. And then we've
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: got ECU. ECU and USF tonight as well. for Pirate
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: fans in Greenville. I'm sure there are going to be
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: some folks throwing them down at Sup Dogs tonight, Bone Man. Absolutely.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: That is a very busy night. Mac, just reminded by
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: a texter here, we did not pick a pep talker
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: for today, did we?
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I think we're all out of pep talk. App St.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Andrew wants in on the pep talk. Oh, he does?
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: So he knew we didn't pick anybody and was like,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: I'll do it? He just said he's back. Obviously, he
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: left us. We knew that he was gone. App St.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Andrew's back. He wants in the pep talk. I say,
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: why not? What's App St.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Andrew have it? When you say he left us, did
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: he die and came back from the dead? What happened
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: to him? I don't know. It just says he left us.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: He's back.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know where he went. Mac, you were saying yesterday, Mac,
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: life's not the same without Ab St.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Andrews. I was, man. I'm glad to hear this news.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: A lot of people leave us, Bone. A lot of
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: people leave us, but you will come back. You will
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: come back, hat in hand, and you'll be asking to
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: be involved in the radio show. You can't quit us, y'all.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: You can't. Like Preppy McGee trying to get Fitty's job
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: every week. Is that a thing? That's a little bit
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: of a thing.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: He tried to get back in? A little bit, yeah.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I would have figured he went into sales. I would
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: have figured he has tripled his money from radio or
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: quadrupled it. Like most folks that go into a profession
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: where you can actually make money, they leave us behind
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: and don't give a damn.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: I think he's going to get a job in sales
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: here just to talk bills. That's all he's got. He
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: just wants to work here and just talk bills. And
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: not dollar bills, Buffalo bills.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: He always told us, if you ain't the bills, you
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: hate the bills. You know what I mean? Very profound
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: stuff from him.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: All right, I have to say, Andrew, you are officially
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: in in the 9 o'clock hour today.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: What the heck, baby? Let's do it. Also need to mention,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: if anybody cares, Jacksonville routed the Ravens last night with
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: poor Joey Fignano in their quarterback.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Jacksonville's fourth win this year of 21 or more. They
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: have gotten to a level of dominance here, the Jacksonville Jaguars.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I watched that game and thought to myself, why couldn't
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: we be playing the Ravens this week? I can't imagine
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Joe Finiano is starting next week with Jacoby Bersetka.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine Mackey's ever starting in a football game
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: ever again, to be honest. At one point, Mackey, it
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: was in the fourth quarter. He had thrown for 40 yards.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: I see.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: It was 41 yards. What did he end up with?
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I didn't see what he finished with, but I have
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: to check. Because I turned that bad boy off mid-fourth.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: We'll have to look up the stats here. He finished with....
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: He got up to 60 yards passing. There you go, Joey.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: It started so good.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: They got the early field goal, and they showed the
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: heartwarming shot of his wife, so proud of him in
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: the stands, and they couldn't show her again after about mid-second.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Was 10 for 18, 60 yards, no touchdowns, two INTs.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: His quarterback rating was 22 last night. Derek Henry was
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: one for one for minus three yards. His rating was
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: 79 last night. Derek had, he threw the ball three
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: yards the other way.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: And he had a 79. He had a better quarterback
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: rating by 57 points. Joey would have been better throwing
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: the ball backwards and losing three yards every play.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Jacksonville is legit, though, man. Their defense doesn't get enough
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: credit either, man. I know the opponent wasn't good last night,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: but to be 6-2 with four wins over 21 or more,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: it's a.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Pretty damn good football team. They're damn good, and Lawrence
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: is playing at a high level, man. Very high level.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: When we come back, Todd Walsh gets emotional in his
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: first presser. O-line coach Joe Gilbert talks about struggling players
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: in the Panther injury update.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Is it getting any better? Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Well, I think we've got to get blockers off of him.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: You know, so whatever scheme-wise and all that kind of stuff,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: but we've got to get it where he's not facing
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: double teams. where he's getting single-blocked. The whole philosophy is
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: when you are lined up man versus man, you've got
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: to win. And we've been blessed at different places, in Seattle,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: in Jacksonville, shoot, going all the way back to Tampa.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: We had guys that could win on one-on-one battles, and
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I think we have that. So that's kind of the expectations,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: is get them where they can face one-on-one blocks, and
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: let's see what they can do.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: New defensive coordinator Todd Walsh, his first presser as D
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: coordinator of your Carolina Panthers. And, man, it was 19
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: minutes of just things. That's him talking about getting Derrick
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Brown going, by the way, wanting to get him singled
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: rather than doubled, which is happening constantly. But it was
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: a mixed bone of, like, it was so good. It
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: was so entertaining. Avero, just a little more chill and straightforward.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Todd Walsh is what Mike Jackson told us when he
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: was in studio with us. He is all D-line coach,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: which means emotion, just emotion, intensity, passion. And when you
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: hear him talk and hear him talk about what he
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: wants from his team bone, physicality, hard work, attacking, like
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: it's all the stuff you want to hear. I don't
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: know how it's going to play out on the field,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: but it's all the stuff you want to hear a
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: DC say.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Well, he's certainly a different presence and a different emotional level.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Than Averro was. Averro, very emotional.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: From what we see, very chill, pragmatic, just a different
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: level that you're going to get. Again, like you're saying,
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know what this is going to mean for
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: on the field, but I do know that sometimes changing
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: a voice does help, especially when you go from Someone
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: that was on the stoic side to the, you know,
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: quintessential positional defensive line, offensive line type guy that is
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: known as a football guy. So we'll see if that
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: makes a difference. We're not in the room to know,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: but certainly it's a there's like a. Like a Dan
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Campbell-like presence to him. You could tell that he's a
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: football emotional guy.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Definitely, and you're going to hear some of that here.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: You're also going to hear from Joe Gilbert, one of
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: the two guys that coaches the O-line. They basically, the media,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: they made him available, Gilbert and Goodwin, both the two
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: O-line coaches. They made him available. You get the feeling
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: the media was asking, hey, can we talk to the
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: O-line coaches about... Never a good sign, by the way,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: if the media wants to talk to the O-line guys.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: They don't want to talk to him because they're playing great.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Because those guys certainly don't want to talk. I credit
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: the Panthers for making them available. They don't have to
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: do that, but I credit them for making them available.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: But let's get back to more of Todd Walsh. And
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: this is exactly what Panther fans want to hear from
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: their defensive coordinator. He wants these boys up front to
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: get downhill and attack.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Well, if you look at how our roster is built,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Turk did that in Kansas City. Lee did that at
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Texas Tech. Aaron did that at Duke. So they have
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: that skill set. We were playing them a little bit different, right,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: wrong or indifferent. I don't think there's any answer to that.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: But this is what their skill set tells us, and
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: that's the most important thing. If you don't have the
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: skill set to play an attack front, if you don't
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: have the skill set to play a read and react front,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: then let's not put them in those positions. So I
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: believe in an attack front. I want to reestablish the
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. I want to knock people back. And
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: we got to be able to get after the quarterback.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: And you can't sit on the line of scrimmage and
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: do that.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: And it does sound like a lot of the talk
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: has been that Todd Walsh has been kind of a
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: one-gap scheme guy up front, which is more attack-oriented. You
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: got one gap, you hit it. Whereas Avero, it was
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: more two-gap. It was more read and react. And fans won. Again,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: there's no guarantee it works, Boney. But he does bring
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: up a good point about guys. He has some attackers.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: He has guys that have proved that they can attack.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: But that's what fans want, right? You go and try
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: to dictate rather than, okay, what are they running? And
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: let's try to read and react to it. So it
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: sounds awesome. We'll see how it works. That's what fans
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: have clamored for, Mac. Less react, more attack. I like it.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I like it. Put it on a t-shirt.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, put that on the whiteboard there, Canales. So maybe
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: that's what we'll see. We'll see if it works out.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: But there's also something we said, Mac, about– You know,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: in coaching changes, often with the head coach, you get
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: a little bit of a jump there for a while.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: We'll see if that affects the defense at all on Sunday.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Let's see here. Pepper Jack Cheese is not being affected
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: by things, Boney. He says, I don't care how good
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: they sound at a press conference. Let it translate on
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: the field. Well, we can't do that yet, sir. They
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: don't play until Sunday. Yeah, I would agree. I would
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: agree with what he's saying. Right. All this would mean
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: nothing if we give up 268 rush yards. I can
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: personally guarantee you we will not give up 268 rush yards.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I feel safe in saying that against a run game.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: It's not really that good. But yeah, time will tell.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: But to Bone's point, I'm going to speak for Bone.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I get the feeling your thinking was we're doing a
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: radio show on Friday. When they play the game, we'll
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: talk about the game. Now we're talking about the press conference.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: That's kind of what you were thinking.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: We have to wait until Sunday to play the game.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: That's how the whole thing operates. There you go, Pepper Jack.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Gotta love our text. Our text could be named after cheese,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: a type of meat. It doesn't matter.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Someone's Instacart order. It does not matter. All right, let's get.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: And usually that leads, whenever someone has a food name,
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: that normally leads to someone saying pepper jack cheese is overrated.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Something will happen now about cheeses, and we pray that
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Willie's not awake yet.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: The mayor of Cheeseland. How often do you eat pepper
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: jack cheese, though? Here we go, Matt. This is what
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I was fearful of. I'm here for it, but I
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: don't eat it that often. I don't think I ever
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: eat it. Is it pepper jack cheese? I like my
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: cheese more mild.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Am I wrong that pepper jack cheese sometimes could be
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: like in a queso, right?
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Probably. Yeah, I would think so. But I like my
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: cheese more mild. I'm more of a sharp guy. I
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: don't like that bite. I don't like it too sharp. Oh, oh, oh.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I like mild, man. A little Colby, a little Colby Jack,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: a little provolone, a little mozzarella. You know? You like
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: American cheese?
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: It's all right. It's kind of mid. You don't like
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: American and you don't like America. I'm sorry, 92. I
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: didn't mean it that way. Go to Switzerland. Those are
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: all Mac's cheeses he just dominated. All right. I like
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: cheesy humor also. Let's move. Pepper Mac cheese. Pepper Mac.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: That's when I get spicy. That's when I have a
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: spicy take. So let's get to the emotional moment because
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: this was real, man. This was real. And it kind
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: of came out of nowhere. It was kind of a
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: regular D coordinator presser. He's fired up. We're going to attack, right?
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: And kind of downplaying the whole 4-3 talk but not
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: ruling that out completely. It was kind of interesting. But
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Vashti Heard asked him a question about– The game. She said,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I've been told by all the players you're a football
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: guy who loves the game. And that got him emotional
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: talking about it.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I'm passionate about the game.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: It's done a lot.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: For my family. And it's because I've had great players. So, uh, it's,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: it's just a game's everything to me. I know nothing else.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: So that's basically who I am. I expect certain things
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: getting off the emotional side here. Um, I expect certain
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: things and we're going to play that way one way
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: or another. And, uh, um, I think the players know
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: how I feel about the game. We have a lot
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: of guys in our locker room that feel the exact
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: same way on both sides of the ball and special teams. Um,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: It's a great game, and you've got to take advantage
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: of the time that you're in it.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: I hope he's crying because he's happy, not that he
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: has to coach this defense more.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was related to that. I don't
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: think it was. I love that. I love that emotion.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: There was somebody poking fun saying Wash was crying like
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Fitty in a podcast. It was just one podcast. I
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: don't frequently cry on the podcast. That might change this year.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: You bald criers associations. Y'all get together, man. But anyway,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I like that. He's a real emotional dude. Absolutely. But
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: to the texter's point from earlier, the cheese man on
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: the text line, like, Let's see how the performance goes.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I really like the vibe and the energy, but let's
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: see how the performance goes. One change is he did
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: say he will be on the field. He likes being
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: on the field. He says he likes seeing the emotion
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: of his players and kind of how they're feeling when
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: they come off the field. Whereas Averro was kind of more...
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: And it fits their personalities. Averro liked being up in
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: the press box, overseeing everything, you know, and that sort
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: of thing.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: That's 1,000% what I was going to say. He has
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: that personality where he wants to chest bump someone coming
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: off the field. You just get that sense of that guy.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Good point. All right, so the injuries. Before we get
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: to Joe Gilbert and what the O-line coach said, basically,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: poor Gilbert was asked, okay, this guy's not playing well.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: What's up with him? Now, I got to move over
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: across the line to this guy. That's kind of what
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: it was. But injuries... It's not getting any better. I
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: don't want to be an alarmist bone. That is not
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: the sort of thing I would do when talking about
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: the Panthers. Not you. I would not freak out over things.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: But the injury situation is not getting any better in
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: regards to four key players. Jalen Phillips, Will Lee, Damian Lewis,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: and a guy we hadn't talked about much and we
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: probably should start now, Bobby Okereke. None of them have
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: practiced at all this week. That's a problem. Yeah. So
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: three starters on defense and your best offensive lineman. And,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know today's a critical day where maybe
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: it could flip for one of those guys, but it's
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: not looking good for those four guys.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, OK, Ricky, that's a massive potential loss, especially first
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: game for Todd Walsh trying to get this defense going. Well,
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: you're going to need that guy in there to get
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: it going. So that's a stressful one to think about
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: here before Sunday. And the Phillips thing looks like it's
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: not happening. I had been hopeful that we could finally
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: get him back. We need some pass rush. So freaking bad, man.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: People are now saying Averro was always on the field back,
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: never in the press box.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, I thought he was in the press box, no?
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Trying to think back. He was on the field, I know,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: against Green Bay, but I thought maybe he split time.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: My bad, then. My bad, y'all. 24-7 says he was
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: never in the press box. Y'all might be right. I
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: don't know why I thought he was in the press box.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Y'all might have that one. I don't know. Anyway, can
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: we get back to Cheezus? Yeah, he was on the sidelines. Okay,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know why I thought he was in the
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: press box. That's on me, man. Seriously, I should be
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: force-fed pepper jack cheese bone until I got to go potty.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: You should have to spend time talking Cheezus with Willie
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: for an hour straight.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, y'all. Oh, daddy, yes. Thank you for policing
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: us here. I don't know why. And the thing is,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: he strikes me as a guy that would want to
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: be in the— you know what? Bet we would have been
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: a much better defense. He'd still have a job if
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: he was upstairs. I'm kidding. Now he's outside. Denver got
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: some possible good injury news, Bone. The thing with them
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: is their two safeties. They are at risk of literally
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: being without both starting safeties. We will have no sympathy
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: for them. We were without our four best corners. Yes, sir.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: We'll have zero sympathy. But Hafanga, the kid who used
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: to play for the Niners, he is he was limited.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: He was moved up to limited. So maybe there's a
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: chance he could play. Maybe not. Brandon Jones still DNP.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I feel confident saying they won't have at least one safety,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I would think. But we'll see. We'll see if they're
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: missing them both.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: Can our offensive line give Bryce enough time to take
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: advantage of that?
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: That's a hell of a question. Hell of a question, Bone.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: And speaking of offensive line, let's talk about or let's
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: listen to Joe Gilbert, one of the two guys that
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: handles the O-line duties. And yesterday he was asked about
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: the struggles of Rasheed Walker and kind of why he's
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: having a hard time.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: The one thing with him is he works hard. He
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: works hard in practice, he works hard in individual. I
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: think the biggest thing for him is being able to
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: translate it to the field, you know, on game day.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: That's a big thing. And he and I have talked
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: about that of, you know, and there's very small, minute
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: things from a technique standpoint that is, you know, he's
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: done it. You know, it's the frustrating thing, I think,
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: for he, for us, is that he hasn't done it consistently.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: And that's Sean.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: So he says, I see the signs in practice. I
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: don't see them in the game. Again, it doesn't matter.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I just don't understand how
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: he is getting, I mean, there's more than just the
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: bull rushes, but the bull rushes are absolutely a problem.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: And the thing is bone, when you put that stuff
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: on tape and you have such a vulnerability, Like, teams
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: are going to find ways to attack you in that fashion.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: And Denver's pass rush is ferocious, man. You had the
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: best comment of all, though, and it's so true. If
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: you would have told us back in the preseason that
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: the week of the Denver game, we'd be playing audio
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: from Joe Gilbert and Todd Walsh, you probably would have said,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: that can't be a good sign.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: That's a very good point. They're not going to put
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: him out there. Are we undefeated and the Lions are
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: getting a lot of praise? No, it's not going to
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: be a good thing.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: That means... someone's in a role that maybe they didn't have.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Before or something's going wrong and someone's got to address something.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: That's a very good point. Two very bad signs of
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: where we're at. Also, Joe Gilbert asked Bone about the
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: struggles of Rob Hunt where he's just not matching the
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Pro Bowl form from his past.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: I think part of it goes to, you know, working
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: with a young guy, you know, with Monroe and getting
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: that comfortability. When you're playing with Timo for tenure vet,
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: you know, playing next to him back when they were
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: both rolling in 24 together, that's a big, that's a
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: 10 year vet to a rookie. You know, you're, you're,
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: there's a different comfort level in there. So, you know,
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: and that's coming along, you know, and I think that
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks, I think Rob has improved,
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: you know, and I think that's part of the comfort
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: level getting back with, you know, with Monroe back in
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: there and now coming back after Timo being out. And,
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: and I think if you go back and you look
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: at Rob, when Timo was in there for the, the
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: Philly game and whatever, you know, you saw that comfortability
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: to come back to him, you know what I mean?
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: That's what a 10-year vet like Timo, you know, does
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: for a guy.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, it makes sense, right? It's one of the
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: things we brought up, too, on the show is when
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: we got Timo back, that that could solidify him. Was
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Timo the guy bone that would take his hand and
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: pull him back from being too far downfield? Is that
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: what he's missing? Hey, you, get back here.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Like when a child's going through the mall and they've
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: gone too far.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Hey, come back. Hey, maybe they can put one of
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: those leashes some people put on their kids when they
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: take them out in public. Hey, yank him back. He's
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: getting too far downfield.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: I could see Fiddy being a child on a leash
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: guy at some point.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. That's what Maddie does when they go out.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: She's got Finney on a leash.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: Oh, man.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: The text line is blowing up, Bone, between people not
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: wanting to hear. A texter says, I don't want to hear. Anthony,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I don't give a bleepity bleep if Rasheed Walker works
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: hard in practice. Fair, fair. And we also have very
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: serious cheesetakes, Bone. Pepper Jack Nation is rising up. I
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: had a feeling this year. They don't want any part
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: of me. Oh, Swiss is another one. This dude says,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: speaking of cheese... The Panthers' defense is Swiss cheese. I
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: don't like Swiss either, y'all. It's too strong. I don't
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: like the strong taste. That's near the top of my ranking. Really? Oh, no.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: It's up there. I don't think anything can pass mozzarella, though. Ol' Mootsie. Ol'
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Mootsie's not getting moved out of there. Ol' Mootsie.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: When we come back, the Couch Potato Guide, Myron Goodman's
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: favorite segment, your guide to all the just the ridiculous
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: amount of sports on TV this weekend, Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: SEC gets a lot of love from the ESPN, you know,
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: and all their writers that they don't technically pay, but
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: march to their drum.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Right. And that's why you see all these.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: SEC teams up there and some good two-loss teams from
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: the Big Ten not quite as high.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: But like I said, it's all going to be played
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: out on the field. Big Ten coaches got a little
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: feisty this week, Bone, calling out the whole SEC ESPN thing.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: That was Kurt Cignetti on his coach's show. Kirk Ferentz
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: in Iowa played the Fox ESPN card and was basically like,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: what network are a lot of our games on Fox? Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: I don't expect to be high in the rankings and
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: stuff like that. I don't expect our teams to be
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: high in the rankings. Ferentz did the old.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Do you guys notice ESPN doesn't promote a lot of
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: stuff they don't? Put on their network. He said, I
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: couldn't find the World Series highlights on there for the
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: last couple weeks.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Interesting, interesting. And I believe, yes, I believe we've all
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: noticed that shameless crap. I will say this about Kurt Cignetti,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: and I know what he was saying, Bone. He was
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: trying to stand up for the two lost teams in
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: the conference, Iowa State, probably one of them, that he
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: didn't think were ranked high enough, where the two lost
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: SEC teams, the committee couldn't wait to shove them up,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: especially Bama all the way to five. I will say this, though.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: A lot of people are questioning Indiana being at four.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Without a ranked win, you know, the loss to the
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: only ranked team they played, albeit by a few inches
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: with Nick Marsh's foot.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: Barely winning a lot of these games like Northwestern and
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Minnesota with their dueling 60 yard field goals. It's a
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: legit question. And it's, it's kind of weird because Indiana
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: has come so far and you hate to say they
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: don't deserve something based off who they are, but they're
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: the national champions. And I think they're benefiting from that
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: right now, more so than who they are here.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: With that said, any coach that can just fire one
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: across the secs bow. I'm here for it. All right.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: I am here for it. All right, it's Couch Potato
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Guy time. There's so much sports to watch this weekend.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: May all of you be able to watch it and
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: have limited family obligations this weekend. What a weekend to
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: babysit with your new girlfriend, I'll tell you what. May
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: all of you not be babysitting for 10 hours tomorrow.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: How do you miss all these games, Fit? Oh, I'm not.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Going to get interesting. Those adventures in babysitting are going
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: to get interesting. Tonight in the world of sports, Hornets, obviously,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: 7 o'clock tonight against the Celtics. That's a WSOC TV game.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Also tonight, we mentioned it earlier, Carolina Wofford is on
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: the ACC Network with Hoops.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: That is.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: 7 o'clock. I don't know what I'm trying to say there.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: And North Carolina State against East Tennessee State. ACC Network Extra,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: ESPN Plus, whatever you call it. That is 7 o'clock tonight.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Football games tonight in the ACC. Virginia Tech-SMU is the
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: ESPN game at 7. And you also got South Florida
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: at East Carolina, 7.30 on ESPN2. And if you're into
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: the hoping Matt Rule fails thing, which I know some
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: of you are, 8 o'clock on Fox, Nebraska, Illinois.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: We'll also throw in UConn, Michigan hoops tonight, too, on
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: TNT tonight. That's another national game. We are overflowing, man.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: So tomorrow, talk about overflowing with stuff. What a college
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: football Saturday with six ranked matchups tomorrow.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: And you got two of them right away in that
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: noon window. The holy war between No. 9 BYU and No.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: 3 Utah tomorrow. is at noon our time on ABC,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: 10 a.m. their time. Pony tomorrow. Oh, my goodness. BYU
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: fans are going to be drinking their milk early tomorrow.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: They can't have coffee to wake themselves up. No, it's
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: going to be a struggle. But the good news is
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: they can't have alcohol either, so they don't need tailgating time.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Looks like star running back L.J. Martin is probably going
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: to play for BYU. They need him desperately. Their running
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: game does not look good right now.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Texas-Missouri, another ranked matchup. And this game is at noon
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: on ESPN. I kind of think this is a Mizzou spot.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to get my, like, feel out for the
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: SEC madness. Yeah. I kind of feel Mizzou after Texas
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: had the big win against Mississippi last week. Yeah, I
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: think you're kind of right there. We'll see. We'll see.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Local teams playing tomorrow in that early window is happening
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: as well. Clemson, Syracuse, noon ESPN2. Cuse is hot right now. Dabo,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: look out. North Carolina, UConn, CBS SportsNet at noon. And
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: then Bone. I'm getting choked up just thinking about it.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: You're Todd Washington here. I know I am. Duke at
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: NC State tomorrow, 1230, the Wes Bryant special on the CW.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Duke has been taking it to state of late, Bo. Yeah,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: they have.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: It's different with a new coach. We'll see Duke the favorites.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: By four, four and a half on the road.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Mac, I'm worn out. That's a hell of a day. Oh,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: that's right. There's still a lot more to go here.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: How do we watch all this? I'm going to try, though.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: And there's other stuff going on, too, like FC in
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: the middle.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: FC's at four o'clock tomorrow against Miami. Intermessy tomorrow. This
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: window here is crazy. Okay, so you get to kind
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: of mid-afternoon. Georgia State and App State play at 2.30
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: on ESPN +. That is at The Rock tomorrow. 3 o'clock,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: South Carolina. Can they keep it going? They host. a
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: very disappointing Texas A & M, that's ESPN. Then you
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: get to two ranked matchups at 3.30, Alabama LSU on
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: ABC and Oregon, Ohio State, 3.30 on CBS. You have
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: this very weird Mary Mac at Wake game on ACC
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Network at 3.30 as well.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: Well, thank God, because we don't have to really necessarily
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: watch all that Wake game tomorrow. Yeah, that's... I mean,
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: if Wake had a good opponent, I might pass out
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: in this window.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Seriously. And you also got Charlotte UAB, 3.30 ESPN +. Yeah, yes, sir.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: So much going on, man. It's crazy tomorrow, dude. Oh,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: and we're not done yet. Nighttime, three ranked matchups at night. Actually,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: the more I think about it, it's seven-ranked matchups, isn't it?
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I've been saying six all week. It's better than I thought.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: It's seven. I think it got to seven, I believe.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah. Okay, let's go to 6-15. ESPN, Kentucky, Tennessee.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: That is six versus 13. That's going to be a
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: hell of a game. And as I try to read, Boney,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: the SEC Wheel of Chaos, I'm feeling Tennessee on this one.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: Is that a little hit at your pick coming up
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: later on in the show?
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: No, I hadn't even made my picks yet, so I
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: got to work on that. But I do. I think
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Kentucky's due for a little bit of a come down here.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: I agree with that. And Tennessee is no joke if
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: they can run the ball and get after it on defense. Miami,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame, we've been waiting for this one. I cannot
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: believe that this is one versus 11. You could argue
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: this is two of the top four teams in the country, honestly.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: You could argue that the way they're going to play
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: tomorrow night, Notre Dame might look like number one.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Miami might look like number one. Very possible, especially if
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Malachi Toney is expected to be out. That's 730 on ABC,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: or NBC, because 730 on ABC is number two Georgia,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: number 10 Ole Miss. This is crazy, man. Oklahoma, Florida,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: SEC Network is 745. Louisville... Georgia Tech, 730 ACC Network.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Even Iowa Northwestern's in that window. That's probably a good
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: game at least. Yeah.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to have it on my radar necessarily,
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: but it's in that window. It's good stuff, man. God,
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: we've got to manage our TVs, man. Then we have
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: the Canes play Saturday at 8 o'clock, hosting the Blackhawks.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: We have the NASCAR finale at Homestead. Sunday at 3
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: on NBC, of course. Panthers at 1, big NFL day.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: And I met you when the show began, Mac. I
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: don't know why they do this.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: 1 p.m.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: ESPN Sunday, Arkansas-Virginia basketball. A matchup that I think, oh, yeah,
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: I'd like to see that. Do we have to put
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: that with this facedown college basketball season? Why do we
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: put a matchup like that at 1 o'clock against the NFL?
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: I would love to watch some of that on, like,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: a Monday night, Tuesday night. How about you put that
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: at 11 a.m. and we'll let that lead into football?
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Move it up a couple hours. I'm going to be
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: at the Panther game. I know a lot of y'all
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: are going to be at the Panther game. That's a
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: good matchup. right there i like if if you put
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: something on during the panther game it might as well
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: not be exactly i'm telling you right now my whole
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: family could leave me during a panther game they have
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: actually and i would not notice i would not although
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: that doesn't happen because mrs mac and mac jr lock
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: in on panther games uh caitlin i have not gotten
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: to watch i have not gotten her to watch one
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: second of sports in her entire life like literally one
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: second Oh, my God. Theater kid. Anyway, yeah, man, it's
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: going to be good. Kyle Larson can wrap up the
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: title if he gets eight stage points. So, like, finish
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: third in the first stage, the title race is over.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: That's what I personally am rooting for. Many of y'all
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: will root for that not to happen so that there's drama. But...
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: there would be drama if you stuck with last year's
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: playoff system, but you didn't. So you might not get drama. Mac,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I have an observation about... Take that, Smokey!
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: I have an observation about this sports window from tonight
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: all the way till late Sunday night. I may have
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: to order some food this weekend via delivery apps. I
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: may not have time to get out and about this weekend.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: You might want to just let your DoorDash guy stay
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: on your couch, watch the games, and when you need something,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: just send him out and tell him to come back.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: But this is going to get... This is going to
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: get ugly. This might be one of those weekends when
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: I have dueling drivers out there, one Uber Eats, one DoorDash.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, you do that? It's happened before, yeah. You get
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: them both out there, man, out the bout for you.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: Who gets here first? When we come back on the
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: Mac and Bone Radio Experience, what matchups do we like
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: and what matchups are scary for the Panthers against Denver?
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.