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7-09-26 Hour 3 - Jeff Legwold on the show, Peyton Watson, Drunk Takes · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: Let's set out to the Ramos Law hotline. Car accident
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Legwell at ESPN dot com. Hello, Leggy, morning follows
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  Speaker 1: Good morning. I was thinking about this yesterday as far
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  Speaker 1: as the Broncos in their schedule, we know how tough
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  Speaker 1: the first six weeks are, oh Mama. But one thing
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking about it felt like, certainly over the
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  Speaker 1: last two years, but if you go back all three
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  Speaker 1: under Sean Payton, each season has started with a sputter
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  Speaker 1: and then they've gained traction about midway through the year.
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  Speaker 1: And I think, certainly with the bow Nicks offenses that's
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  Speaker 1: been the case. But even if you go back to
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  Speaker 1: the Russell Wilson year, they were like one in five
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  Speaker 1: to start, then they won five in a row in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of the season. Do you know why that is?
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  Speaker 1: That maybe Sean Payton starts off a little bit slower
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  Speaker 1: when this season starts.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't the case in New Orleans very often,
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know that there's a theme. I do
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  Speaker 2: know they go hard in training camp than a lot
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  Speaker 2: of teams do, and they play their guys in the
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  Speaker 2: preseason more. And he does that with the specific idea
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  Speaker 2: of what you're talking about, that you're there in the stretch,
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  Speaker 2: that you're in the stretch run of the season, you
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  Speaker 2: know you're rated, you're still got.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of gas in the tank.
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  Speaker 2: As it were, and he believes in that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, this year they do not have that luxury at all.
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  Speaker 2: This year they better come out of and I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: be intrigued to see how practices look, how the preseason looks.
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  Speaker 2: He has said he's not going to deviate much, but
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  Speaker 2: there's no way they haven't discussed in house what those
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  Speaker 2: first six games look like, because you can't ignore that
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  Speaker 2: that's five eleven win teams and the Chiefs with Mahomes
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  Speaker 2: back probably in your first six and you just can't.
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  Speaker 2: You can't ignore that when you're struture in your your
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  Speaker 2: training camp.
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  Speaker 4: Jeff, I know one of your favorite pastimes is lying
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  Speaker 4: to me. I don't, I don't. I don't blame you, but.
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  Speaker 3: I look in the eye and I tell you straight.
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  Speaker 4: Moment, Okay, please tell me straight. I heard Britt talking
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  Speaker 4: about it during the appetizer hour, and every time I
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  Speaker 4: go and I look at those first six weeks, I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: good Lord almighty. I mean, I know the NFL is
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  Speaker 4: not trying to do the Broncos dirty, but that's a
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  Speaker 4: hell of a start to the season. Your expert opinion
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  Speaker 4: straight in the eyeballs, what would be a good record
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  Speaker 4: for the Denver Broncos or what would you expect out
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  Speaker 4: of those first six weeks.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what I expect yet, most because I
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  Speaker 2: mean I got to see how the Davis Webb dynamic looks,
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  Speaker 2: I got to see how Bow looks in training camp,
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  Speaker 2: all of those things.
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  Speaker 4: But three and three would be good.
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  Speaker 2: I think if three and three you're still in the
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  Speaker 2: playoff chase, you know, three and three is you know,
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  Speaker 2: he probably wouldn't smile about it, because that's not his nature.
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  Speaker 2: But I think you get out of those first six
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  Speaker 2: three and three, then you get to work, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the way, and you're in pretty good shape,
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  Speaker 2: uh in the division, because again, the division is the
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  Speaker 2: big thing, and and you've only got you've got two
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  Speaker 2: division games in those first six, and to me, if
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  Speaker 2: those two are part of the three in the three
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  Speaker 2: and three, you know, if if you win the division games,
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  Speaker 2: in the first six at minimum, that's much better than
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  Speaker 2: losing those two and winning a few NFC games.
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  Speaker 4: They're both on the road.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Nut, but you got to me those are
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  Speaker 2: the ones to look at. The whole stretch is brutal,
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  Speaker 2: but you got to get those division games because the
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  Speaker 2: division is going to be a cat fight this year.
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  Speaker 2: And and I don't think there's any question about.
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  Speaker 5: It, Jeffrey, I'm glad you joined the show right now
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  Speaker 5: as a fellow scholar and somebody who doesn't mind reading.
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  Speaker 5: I'm working with two savage men who refuse to read articles,
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  Speaker 5: and we had your colleague Seth Wickersham on with it.
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  Speaker 1: I read everything, Jeff.
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  Speaker 4: He doesn't write the freakin Bible.
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  Speaker 5: So Seth wrote this wonderful lopus, this wonderful feature on
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  Speaker 5: Sean Payton and these guys they took pride. Did I
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  Speaker 5: read it and not being able to read it? So
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure you read it because you are a writer
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  Speaker 5: and you read My question to you, Jeff, why would
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  Speaker 5: why would Sean Payton? Why does he do this? Like
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  Speaker 5: he doesn't like get along with the media, local media,
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  Speaker 5: but he's doing something of this nature which is beyond
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  Speaker 5: what any other head coach would do. What's the motivation
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  Speaker 5: the most important point of this, what do you think
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  Speaker 5: his motivation is for doing that, allowing a writer to
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  Speaker 5: be embedded in his camp for those two weeks?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, he certainly wouldn't do it with a
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  Speaker 2: low local writer, Like, there's no way, there's no scenario
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  Speaker 2: where he would do that with me, or with Parker
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  Speaker 2: Gabriel or you know, Nick Cosmider.
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  Speaker 4: Why not.
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  Speaker 2: There's just why we're too close and when it's over,
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  Speaker 2: we're still there pitching at him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And it's just.
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  Speaker 2: Not you know, I've been close to coaches over the years.
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  Speaker 2: I've sat in on meetings over the years. I've seen
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  Speaker 2: teams draft boards, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, the day before the draft over the years.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, I think I think he enjoys the
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  Speaker 2: game enough to pull back the curtain once in a while.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's part of him that wants people to
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  Speaker 2: see what goes into it. That it's not just hey,
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  Speaker 2: we show up on Sunday and we call some plays
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  Speaker 2: that you know, I think he enjoys showing how invested
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  Speaker 2: he is in this as his profession. And he knows
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  Speaker 2: Seth and obviously trusts that and he's you know, the
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  Speaker 2: book he's with Jeff Duncan. Jeff covered him for years
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  Speaker 2: and years in New Orleans, and I've known Jeff since
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  Speaker 2: he started in the business, and Jeff's a trustworthy reporter,
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  Speaker 2: and Sean has done things like that with him in
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  Speaker 2: the past. So I think it's just a question of
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  Speaker 2: I and I. You know, personally, this is a personal opinion.
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  Speaker 2: Sean has not told me this, but I think there
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  Speaker 2: was part of him that thought the team would be
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  Speaker 2: in the super Bowl and it would be part of
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  Speaker 2: the tapestry of a super Bowl season. And I think
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  Speaker 2: now would he ever admit that, I don't know, but
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  Speaker 2: my opinion is when they agreed to do that, he
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  Speaker 2: believed this team was a super Bowl team, because he
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  Speaker 2: said it publicly in July last year, you know, so
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  Speaker 2: I think it was all part of the equation.
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  Speaker 4: Let me follow that up. I say this to Jeff.
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  Speaker 4: Let me before you go on.
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  Speaker 5: I believe that he's the kind of coach because he
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  Speaker 5: doesn't like his players speaking to the media at all.
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  Speaker 5: In fact, he said it in the piece. You know,
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  Speaker 5: say nothing, don't say anything. It's a big game. Don't
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  Speaker 5: say anything. He on the other hand, here he is
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  Speaker 5: taking it all on. He is right something from the
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  Speaker 5: fire hose of media, and I think he does it purposely.
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  Speaker 5: I think he does it because let me take it
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  Speaker 5: forget you don't say thing, let me do it all.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's a very old school approach that used to
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  Speaker 2: be a lot of coaches used to call that.
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  Speaker 3: The one voice. You know.
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  Speaker 2: They would get hired and they would tell the GM
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  Speaker 2: and the owner, we're going to have one voice here
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  Speaker 2: that you know.
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  Speaker 3: It was very common back in the day.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, Josh McDaniels told Pat bowle In that when
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  Speaker 2: he got hired here, we're going to have one voice.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that's his belief and how he likes
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  Speaker 2: to function, and he does that with the team. Sean
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  Speaker 2: Payton and the analytics director, Evan Rusting are the only
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  Speaker 2: guys who speak to the full team on a regular basis.
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  Speaker 2: Now Vance Joseph talks to the defensive team meeting, and
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  Speaker 2: Sean will have coaches give the fire up speech sometimes
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  Speaker 2: on Saturday and stuff like that. But in a team
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  Speaker 2: meeting setting, Sean and Evan are the only people who
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  Speaker 2: speak to the full team on a regular basis. So
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't just believe that publicly believes it in house.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Lagold with this on the Ramas Law hot Line.
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  Speaker 1: One thing from that piece that stuck with me, and
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  Speaker 1: it is, I don't know if this is normal coach
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  Speaker 1: psychotic behavior or this is a special Sean Payton brand
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  Speaker 1: of it. But you're going into your first playoff game
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  Speaker 1: against Buffalo, and in that week of preparation, he brought
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  Speaker 1: in five hundred thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 4: In front of the team as motivation.
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  Speaker 1: He brought in the oxyank canisters, and he had to
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  Speaker 1: make a movie where Josh Allen is dying on Mount
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  Speaker 1: Everest with Hailey Steinfeld is in the movie too.
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  Speaker 4: Is that normal coaching stuff before a playoff game?
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  Speaker 1: Or is that what Sean Payton does?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yes, the answer is yes.
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  Speaker 2: They'll do anything and and especially now the coaches make
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  Speaker 2: real money. You know, before they made real money. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: not the such elaborate but other people have done the
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  Speaker 2: cash pile. People have had the you know, chop chop
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  Speaker 2: a tree with an axe. You know, I think the
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  Speaker 2: Jacksonville had a player injured himself in a lot over
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  Speaker 2: them because they because they had a chop a tree down.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, wait, who buried the.
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  Speaker 4: Was that Tom Sula or something like that that buried.
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  Speaker 3: Buried of football? I've heard at all.
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  Speaker 2: I know of coaches, assistant coaches, position coaches who've written
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  Speaker 2: the names of their kids on the ball to remind
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  Speaker 2: players not to drop it. Wow, they will do anything
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  Speaker 2: and everything.
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  Speaker 3: Does that?
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  Speaker 1: Does that work for players? Or do some players are
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  Speaker 1: like this is super cheesy?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 2: I think players in general like the communal aspect of
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  Speaker 2: those things, and I think they've always resonated in football
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  Speaker 2: even more than other sports I've covered.
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  Speaker 4: Listeners Seth's article is terrific. I read it. I like
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  Speaker 4: your stuff, Jeff. It's just a perfect length for me,
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  Speaker 4: and I like Jesus. I liked what came out yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: But you know what stuck out to me, And because
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  Speaker 4: this has been going on in my head, you know, he's.
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  Speaker 5: Saying he likes your stuff because he doesn't have to think.
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  Speaker 4: When he reads it it next time. Even there, I
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  Speaker 4: likes simple, they'll appreciate it. The one thing that sticks
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  Speaker 4: out to me. And he keeps going back to this,
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  Speaker 4: and I like the fact that he does. Sean Payton
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  Speaker 4: keeps going back to Jesus, we got lucky at times
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  Speaker 4: last year or or it's all these tight wins could
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  Speaker 4: have gone the other way. I mean, to me, it
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  Speaker 4: feels like that's gonna be again a focal point for
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  Speaker 4: his team through this camp, through the preseason. That boys, men,
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  Speaker 4: we could have been It could have been a lot different.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we we we got by by the hairward
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  Speaker 4: chiny chin chin. How do you think he's going to
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  Speaker 4: approach that with the team, because not me. He keeps
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  Speaker 4: bringing it up month after month.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, he hammers away at it.
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  Speaker 2: He wants him to understand, and you know, I think
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  Speaker 2: it's you know, you've had back to back seasons. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the Chiefs had the close game record the year before
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  Speaker 2: and missed the playoffs, and then the Broncos up the
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  Speaker 2: ante they had more close game wins than the Chiefs
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  Speaker 2: had the year before last year. So he knows the math,
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  Speaker 2: uh is not to be relied on that. That is
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  Speaker 2: not one stat you're gonna you're gonna bank your mortgage.
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  Speaker 2: Hn you know, your ability in close games is not
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  Speaker 2: a good mathematical place to plant your flag, as it were.
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  Speaker 2: It just doesn't transfer over. And that'll be his message.
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  Speaker 2: I think also there's a little discomfort from him when
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  Speaker 2: his team is so defensive leaning In the last two years,
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  Speaker 2: this team has been very defensive. Leaning doesn't have anything
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  Speaker 2: to do with the close game. But the numbers, the
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  Speaker 2: two numbers that stick at me. And I've asked him
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  Speaker 2: face to face several times about it, and I haven't
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  Speaker 2: really gotten an answer. But I still do not believe
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  Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos and Sean Payton want bo Nicks to
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  Speaker 2: lead the NFL and pass attempts and to lead the
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  Speaker 2: NFL in dropbacks. And that's exactly what he did last year.
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  Speaker 2: He led the league in those categories, and I don't
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  Speaker 2: believe that's.
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  Speaker 3: How they want the offense to funk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and when the head coach calls plays that that's
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  Speaker 2: very telling to me. He keeps calling them and there
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  Speaker 2: has to be a reason why. But I have not
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  Speaker 2: gotten him to connect those dots for me. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: very curious if Davis Webb now has the headset because
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  Speaker 2: of those two numbers.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Lagwall of all conversations with Legy you rotche by
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  Speaker 1: the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers ib IBEW Local sixty
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  Speaker 1: eight start with the job and with the career. Last
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  Speaker 1: thing real quick thirty seconds article on CBS Sports that
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  Speaker 1: did the old redraft of the twenty twenty four draft.
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  Speaker 1: One thing is clear that there's two of the six
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks that were taken in the first round. McCarthy and
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  Speaker 1: Penix are last of the group. They're they're out for
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  Speaker 1: injury reasons or just not played well. Where do you
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  Speaker 1: have bo among the other three? I guess all four.
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  Speaker 1: If you put him in in the mix, they still
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  Speaker 1: have him as the fourth quarterback off the board.
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  Speaker 4: Would you mix that up?
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  Speaker 3: No, if you're being honest.
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  Speaker 2: From a draft perspective, I mean, you can do you
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  Speaker 2: can do performance, and you know who went to better teams.
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  Speaker 2: I mean both drafted later in the first round, so
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  Speaker 2: he goes to a better team than the other guys did.
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  Speaker 2: But from a draft perspective, I think the order probably
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  Speaker 2: stays the same.
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  Speaker 3: When you do those.
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  Speaker 4: They put they put me at number one, they put
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  Speaker 4: Williams two, and then I think we are Jade Daniels tea.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'll tell you every personnel guy I know.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks from a talent perspective, Caleb Williams is number one,
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  Speaker 2: and it ain't close. I just was back in Chicago recently,
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  Speaker 2: and I know some of the Bears coaches.
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  Speaker 3: And I, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Had a chance to talk to some folks there and
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  Speaker 2: that the stories they tell of what's to come with
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  Speaker 2: that player is really in true. But I think from
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  Speaker 2: a talent perspective, NFL people will tell you Caleb is
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  Speaker 2: is number one in the gap is pretty big.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Lakeweld ESPN dot com joins this every Thursday. Always
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  Speaker 1: appreciate it, Leggy.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Thanks fellows. Let's say it.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Lakeweld, ESPN dot com back after this, all right,
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about Peyton Watson situation in just
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  Speaker 1: a second, but most you got something else real quick.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know how you guys feel about this,
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  Speaker 4: but let me tell you how I see it.
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  Speaker 1: Turn your play video off, icadphones on, microphone on, do
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  Speaker 1: your job.
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  Speaker 4: The Stanley Cup to me is you're the one who
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  Speaker 4: gave me that drink. Well wacko hey. The Stanley Cup
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  Speaker 4: to me is just a hallowed piece of hardware, right Brett. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: for guys like me, I will never have my name
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  Speaker 4: on the Stanley Cup ever, nor should I I might, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: you might. You get hire by a team in a
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  Speaker 4: important role, then you can get your name on the
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  Speaker 4: Stanley Cup. Okay, but from what I understand, and again
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  Speaker 4: when I talk about the Stanley Cup, I talk about
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  Speaker 4: hockey immortality. Your name is on the cup forever, long
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  Speaker 4: after you're dead, and when they finally take that band
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  Speaker 4: off and put in the Hall of Fame, it stays
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: in the Hall of fame on that band forever, right,
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  Speaker 4: It's forever. Yeah, And by the way, as long as
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  Speaker 4: the Stanley For all these guys who want it this year,
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  Speaker 4: their names will be on the Cup through their lifetimes
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  Speaker 4: and probably their children's lifetimes. I mean, there are the
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  Speaker 4: oldest bands now are from the fifties, so it's gonna
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  Speaker 4: be around a long time. Well. Reportedly, the owner of
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  Speaker 4: the Carolina Hurricanes, his name Vic is Oh. He owns
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  Speaker 4: the Portland Trailblazer. I'm I'm Dundon reportedly reportedly on the
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  Speaker 4: Stanley Cup now engraved are the names of his wife
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  Speaker 4: and five children, including a seven year old. Reportedly Is
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  Speaker 4: that his wife and five children? You said correct? I
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  Speaker 4: think I think some maybe a couple work for the
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  Speaker 4: organization in some capacity. But his wife and five children,
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  Speaker 4: including they say, a seven year old on the cup?
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  Speaker 4: What does the league think about that? The league allows
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  Speaker 4: it I guess. Wow. So if the league allows.
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  Speaker 1: Here, it is here, it is BAKA pulled up the video.
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  Speaker 4: Al right, So Tom Dundon, Dax Varoshka, Uka Salt, Hayden Dundon,
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  Speaker 4: Das Dundon, dru Dune and Blake dundein and they are
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  Speaker 4: first pat that's something dunde Yeah there, I mean the
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  Speaker 4: first two lines are just him and his family. How
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  Speaker 4: small of those? Pretty? They're pretty small? Okay, So forever
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  Speaker 4: this will live for up you can get, say Jeff
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  Speaker 4: Daniels on the side of that, just something wow, you
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  Speaker 4: can get. You can get. You're allowed fifty two names
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  Speaker 4: on the Stanley Cup. Fifty two. That's to cover all
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  Speaker 4: the players, you know, front office staff, important other members
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  Speaker 4: of the staff. You know.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know what the see you're you're you're
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  Speaker 5: talking to someone. I don't know what the protocol is here.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. Is this normal?
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  Speaker 3: I think?
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  Speaker 1: Or stank of and you say, hey, I do want
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: to put my cousin on here?
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: Is it? Okay? If we leave your name off, that's crazy.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: The whole the first two rows or Dundon's.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: So what's the reaction like in the NHL in Canada.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: In Carolina, There's been plenty of gasps from what I've seen,
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: So this is is this a first? I think, you know,
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: another year. I think I meant there have been other
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: family members on the cup, but they also are working
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: with the organization in some important capacity or some sort
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: of capacity. I don't know that a seven year old's
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: doing a whole lot of decision. I mean, Micah says
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: or Mia says Moser.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: The NHL will ultimately x out the names of the
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: family members.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: This has happened in the past. Peter Pocklington, Edmonton, former
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Edmonton Oilers owner, put his father on the cup and
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: eventually his name was xed out. If he just looked
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: at its x out, they tink tink, tink tink.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they do that?
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that seems they exed it out.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Why would they do that now?
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: Stupid because well they did that a long time ago
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: because his father had nothing to do with it. Okay,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: but they exed out. No.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: No, I'm going back the other way because I'm like,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: if if you win the Stanley Cup, you're the owner,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: then you make the decision on whose names go on
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: the cup.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: It's not they.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Don't get to say this guy wasn't deserving? How did
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: they How did they know?
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: Maybe you talk to his dad every night about moves
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: they should make. So they won their first Cup of
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: eighty four, Pocklington secretly had his father's names Basel and
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: Gray on the trophy alongside players and staff.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Look at this, that's even more rude.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: That looks said, that looks dumb. That's dumb on top
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: of it, because well it's forever. So what you what
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: are you gonna do? Grind it off? Because his father
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: had that looks stupid now looks like a mistake. The
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: cast name is the only name that's ever been actively
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: removed or altered on the trophy. You know what that's like? Bush?
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: That reminds me of three computers when we.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: Actually had to type out essays and you.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: Use white out and you use wide out, and for
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: whatever reason, the white out doesn't work, so you.
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: Just exit out right, and the teacher says, what are
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: you doing? You can't just exit out? Well, I was
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: gonna type the whole thing over again.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Can't you like melt some metal and just like fuse
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: it on? Just I don't, I don't know, don't I'm
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: not a metal. We're just here's here's the thing.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: See, you had me mos at the This is ridiculous
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: that Tom Dundon did this and then you lost me
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: at the Well, they're just going that was giant exes.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: All that was somebody in the NHL approved that forty
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: years ago.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Look if the guy went like if this guy that
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: eventually you like win oj and it's serving life in
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: prison or something.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's a serial killer. Yeah you don't want
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: him associated with the Cup. It's some dude.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: Then you're right, man, you have yet you had me
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: gasping the first time.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: Now I'm double gasping.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: But you know, I'm not a huge fan of these
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Keepers of the Cup guys.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: And I don't like take themselves seriously for me, a
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: little too serious.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: I think they overcorrected. They over corrected here with the
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: Pocklington thing. That was again forty years ago.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, if that's what they're gonna do with
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: this one, it's an overcorrection.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: Uh, Buff Driver or bud Driver. Buff says, what happens
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: when you run out of room on the cup. That
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: means you just take a band off and you move
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: the bands up. You put a new band on the bottom.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: That's what you are. The other bands into the Hall
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: of Fame, and they're proudly displayed in the Hall of Fame.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: For right now, that's in the Hall of Fame. The exes. No,
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: it's still on the cups, still on the It's still
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: on the cup. It's crazy some cups think about that.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: Let's see the cup? What with the xes?
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I literally, if if I went, let's say this is
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know how long this is gonna take for
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: that thing to be in the Hockey Hall of Fame.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Let's say I went to the Hockey Hall of fan.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: You'll be dead by the time that that eighty three
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: eighty four oilers are off.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Let's say I'm not and I just went there. I
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: wanted to go see things. I'm looking at these. I
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: had no idea the background of this story. I would think, first,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I swear to go. The first impression was that guy's
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: a murder and they don't want it on the cup.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: That would be my first impression. And the answer is no,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: it was the owner just wanted his dad's name on there.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: That's a great question. Has there ever been anybody on
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: the cup who's murdered? Somebody see before or after.
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: It's gotta be yes, right, there are anyone who has murdered,
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: murdered somebody that is on the Stanley Cup.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: All right, Wait, this site can't be reached. Why can't
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: it be reached?
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: I don't know, it's pop secret. I don't know, But
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: I mean, let's get back to the original point here.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: How do you guys feel about that?
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: No? I think the first part of that's ridiculous, that
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: that you should not put all of your entire family
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: on that list, including your seven year old.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: That shouldn't happen.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: I also think xing and out shouldn't happen either. I
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: think stupid on top of stupid. Okay, so now that
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: it's done, leave it.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Oh there's two two killers. Two players have been convicted
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: of homicide related offenses. Craig McTavish what drunk driving crash
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: and then Mike Danton Mike d get it in front
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: of the mic?
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: Uh, okay.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: He later played guilty in two thousand and four to
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: conspiracy to commit murder after attempting to hire a hitman
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: to kill his agent.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Okay, so is he xed out? But he wouldn't know,
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: but he wasn't he was never put on the cup
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: because he didn't play for the Devil's in that run.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Well that's well, then why is they I giving me that?
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so there's one I suppose, but yes, the
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: answer is yes, this this has happened.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: Well mac t, I mean, that's just that's sad. That
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: was all you know. That's really a sad situation.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: It is sad.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: But I don't know. I just I don't know how
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: to feel about this. I've just had a lot of
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: gasping from people in the know around the league about that. Vick.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: Can we talk about Pyton Watson for a minute.
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: Yes, Ask me some questions and I will try to answer,
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: because I think this week is a big week.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: Okay, here's a good one. Less it gets xed out.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: It's not a tortatillas or tortidos.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Totedios for no, the first one, baka the first one.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Now that's the second one, the first one.
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: Here's my questions toos. Here's my question, Sue Sue studio.
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: So that's my question.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: What's happening here? What are we doing? Here's what I've heard?
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Nothing like, there's no, there's nothing.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: Here's what I believe is happening. Here's my belief. I
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: have a belief system, and this is pure speculation. This
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: is not me, this is not intel that is from
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: the team, certainly because I'm not sure exactly what the
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: next move. But clearly the Nuggets have information or the
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: Nuggets are pretty sure that no one is going to
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: come after Peyton Watson at the number he aspires. Otherwise
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: there'd be a lot of teams making offers, and there
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: haven't been any teams making off.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: So you're thinking that Peyton Watson has not gotten an
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: offer that he has liked, and so.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, he wants twenty five at least, right,
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: so since agent he's shooting for the moon and see
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: if there's any spacecraft that want to land there.
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: In the best case scenario, here's what here's what happens
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: for the Nuggets. You want it for the Nuggets or
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: for him Nuggets. For the Nuggets, best case scenario is
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: they find a way to win out a little more salary.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: You as Valancuna's contract is out, if.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: They can part ways with maybe like a Zeke Nase's
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: contract or someone and they have a little more salary
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: to work with, they can apply that remaining salary the
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: Peyton Watson give them a short term bumper, little short
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: term deal and make this upcoming season. Approve a year
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: again and then and then we'll give you.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: We'll give your twenty and then you get your big money.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: That is the best case scenario for all parties.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Are you saying a one year deal.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: Not not necessarily a one year deal?
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: You can you can enhance it with incentives.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm not a contract guy. I mean,
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: the only thing that would make me nervous about that.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I don't want the idea of him popping up a
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: free agency.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: You know what I like? How about this? How about hey,
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: you know what pe want? You impressed us? Yeah, we'll
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: give you. So we'll give you you impressed us money. Sure,
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: we ain't giving you you're blowing us away, and then
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: you're locked in.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: Right now, he's qualifying off for six and a half
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: million dollars. That's really technically all they're required.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: To give up, right But to me, that honestly, for
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: a guy who's had one month of his career, really
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: that's even printice money. He's worth it.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: Oh, you're you're right, You're right, he is so and
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: they don't want and they don't want this to be
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: You don't want to start this off on the foot.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: So what the proper way to go about it is
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: maybe meet halfway, go somewhere or fourteen I don't know.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: I don't know what that number is. Go somewhere. That
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: makes everybody happy, right, but that's not going to penalize
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: you to the point of your drowning in tax money.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: I think the Nuggets are.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: Prepared to enter the repeater tax, enter that, but not
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: at a level that's going to drown them.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: It's going to make any seven million dollars is insane. Well, again,
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: that's insane. The number that if if you're above if
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: you kept.
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: Valentinois and then paid him the twenty five million, that's
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: what you'd be getting in tax money. Now you've rid
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: yourself of valents contract, you have some.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: Wiggle room there.
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: You still have to fill four other roster spots though,
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: you just have to fill those spots.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: Come on, that's money. So I think all this talk
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: of all this talk of the.
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: Clippers doing the sign and trade, the Nuggets don't have
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: to agree to a sign and trade.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: No, they don't. They don't have to do that they.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: Can carry on the way they want and keep him
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: at the qualifying offer. The only way the Clippers can
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: steal him is if they legit said we'll give you
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: twenty five to thirty.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: Million match that Nuggets. Are they prepared to do that?
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: That's where the sign and trade comes in. Do they
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: have the fact that that's where you match him and
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: trade him or you match him and trade somebody else.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: All I'm saying, that's it. Are are the Clippers? Are
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: they being real? Are they showing? Are they showing their
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: real hand here?
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: They just gave Ruey twenty eight mils what I'm They
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: spent a ton of money and they have their own
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: RFA and Benedict Matherin that they're gonna have to pay
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: at some point. He's a good player too. So how
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: about how about they offer sheet p watt weheat.
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: This could be a ploy and go ahead. We'll say, hey,
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: we'll see. Somebody says, where does the tax money going?
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: Teams have to pay these exorbitant taxes they go to
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: all the other teams. Yeah, that's where the NBA has
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: just taste. So everybody this tax money, if you're in
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: that tax Golden State was in it forever. Hell, the
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: Nuggets run the tax, Boston was in the tax this
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: last year, Cleveland was in the tax. All that money
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: is collected and it's split apart to all the other teams.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: And that's basically no. The tax money goes to Moser.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: That's where it goes.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: Boat with the boat, so I get a boat boat.
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: The way we go is playing out the way I
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: see this playing out right now.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: If I were to guess, the.
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: Nuggets retain the services of Peyton Watson, it's not going
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: to be at the at the number.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: He would like.
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: He would like a big, big number, but it'll be
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: at a number that will make both of them somewhat
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: happy going into this season, and it's going to be
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: approve it year.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: Here's what I think you do.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: This would be to me ideal situation, because I don't
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: mind this idea at all. Maybe off from a couple
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: of years, a couple of years at when does he
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: get to UFA in a couple of years. Here's what
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Mom, offer him a couple of years of
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: a deal, two three whatever, make it around twenty million,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: let's say somewhere in that ballpark. But you're paying him like, hey,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: you played well, you have a lot of potential. We
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: see it. Here you go, here's some cash. Here's the
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: good news for you. You signed the short term deal. In
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: two years we talk again about a contract extension and
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: if you do play well, now you get like max
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: money and we'll have more money.
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: Then people will have the ability to move some guys around.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: Yep I because.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: Cam comes off the books at next year, so there's
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: some ability.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: See, you can get paid twenty five to thirty for
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: the next four years now, or you could get paid
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: fifty five to sixty in a couple of years.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: But well, if he plays well, who'll get that anyway?
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: But that lever isn't pulled.
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: You don't come to that unless they can rid themselves
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: of a contract like Zeke's.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: How much does that open up though?
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: I mean that's eight eight million plus six is fourteen
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: that's at that number we were talking about.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: Plus five more roster spots. But yeah, every penny counts now, brother,
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: no offense to Zeke, But what are we doing? No offense? What?
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: What what are we doing?
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: What they said when they drafted the two power forwards,
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: when they drafted that guy, and they and they also
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: brought in Marvin Bagley.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: What did I say about Zeke Spots, Brazil Hopkins, Zach
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: What did I say?
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: I said, Wow, that's telling me that they have too
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: many guys at that size.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: One's got to go.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Well this that doesn't even include the idea that Deron
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Holmes is there.
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: Exactly, but that's telling me that one of those guys
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: gotta go.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: And and how do you let it go?
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: You might have to attach Hey, why did the Nuggets
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: go get extra second round.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: Picks in the draft? Yeah? Good point.
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: You might have to attach one of those to get
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: it get rid of that contract. Yeah, Bill, I think
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: things are happening. Things are happening that in the next
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: couple of weeks. The first domino that dropped was yesterday.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: That was Valanciuna's contract being waived, and now the next
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: domino is going to be Peyton Watson.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: It's like every time the Nuggets trade somebody, we need
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: to attach picks on top of.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, even take our stuff, take our stuff.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: We had to trade a first round pick with Porter
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: for cam.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: It's a pickle.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: When do I get the picks? I want the pick?
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: When do I get the boat with the boat with
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: the boat, boat with the boat.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I don't mind the boat.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: I don't mind the idea of vic.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: I think that it's certainly uh, it's there's got to
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: be something brewing out there because there's been literally no
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: news to discuss. And this is a pretty I mean, what,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: what was he like the ninth best overall free agent
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: when this thing started? Like he's this wasn't a huge
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: free agency class. He's one of the bigger names.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: You know, the the Golden State Warriors had a similar
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: situation with Jonathan Kaminga. He was a restricted free agent,
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: he wanted a lot more.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: They traded him.
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so you don't know how it's going to play out.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Good question from a text you just real quick before
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: you to a break. How much is the hammy playing
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: into this negotiation?
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Is that something that.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: You I mean, he's what twenty three three? Yeah?
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Is that like long term concern or is that just
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: a rough year?
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: If you're asking me to suddenly move into diagnosing hamstring
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: issues and soft tissue issues and why they happen to
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: certain players, that's a completely different story. I've heard different
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: theories about that. I've heard different theories. Why do athletes
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: suffer soft tissue problems more than other athletes?
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Is it sleep deprivation? Is it weight? What is it?
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: He's not.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: Weight's not an issue with Peyton Watson, right?
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: Does he look overweight to you? No? So what is it?
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: Since he got those new teeth? Is it? Veneers? Kid?
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Works hard?
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: Man, You're not gonna hear me say anything bad about Peyton.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Peyton Watson's hell.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Ian Watson works hard.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: He has a great attitude, and he deserves every penny
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: he gets. It's a situation now where he may look
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: at the Nuggets and say, wait a minute, you paid
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: Christian Brown.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Why can't you pay me? He guess Christian Brown played
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: for two years and he won a title. I mean
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Christian Brown played a lot.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Of bat I'm telling you what his camp might be said. No, No,
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: for sure, I know what his camp is saying. But
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: every situation is different.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Well there again, I think I did this the other day.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: But their pitch is easy. I'll be Peyton Watson's agent.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: So you guys need to get younger, You need to
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: get more athletic, You need to get.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: You block shots longer.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Who plays defense? Longer and has offensive ability. Check check
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: check check check. That sounds a lot like me.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: Now, I'll be the Nuggets.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: We're in a we're in a pickle financially right now.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: We're not gonna go down that road where we give
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: money to you unless.
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: You prove it to a season. Yeah, not a month.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: A season.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Well, and I thought at the beginning of this free
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: agency period his retort would have been, while these teams
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: are all interested in me and doesn't really.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: Look like it.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know, so uh three oh three, five four
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: nine two five back after this.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: I love this song. I love this song. It's pretty good.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: It's pretty bouncy baby.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: All right, somebody says it's time to sign and trade
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: for Derek Jones, Chris Dunn draft picks pick people don't understand.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: Maybe you do understand, and let me express to you.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: If you do the sign and trade and you acquire contracts,
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: you acquire money back, you're.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Still in the same predicament.
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: You're still paying out salaries and it still put you
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: in that tax Now you might cut up those salaries
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: into lesser salaries, but it's still salary coming in.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know what that fixes. I don't of
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: a pickle.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: God, they're just it's such a it's such a difficult
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: spot that feels like the old Oh.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: We knew that, we knew that.
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: I thought, I I honestly thought that the only way
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: the Nuggets could get out of this spot is by
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: trading one of their big contract, big ticket players.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: Is that still on the table. I don't know.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just quickly here, so we're gonna be off tomorrow.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna do drunk takes here in a couple
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: of minutes, we are, Yes, I'm going.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: To what's today? What we're doing?
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Why do you guys act like you're always so unaware
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: of everything?
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: I know? Did you see the story about Mark Cuban.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: Did he say that they frozen out or some bull crap.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Like he's accusing the Mavericks owner, governor whatever, Patrick Dumont
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: of freezing the team's for I'm a majority owner, out
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: of business opportunities in a proposed move of the club
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: out of downtown. So Cuban's mad because of this, and
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: this is like one of those examples of like what
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: did you expect to happen? He sold his stake back
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. He still owns twenty seven percent
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: of the team, but the Dumont ownership group can still
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: buy out twenty more percent of that so.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: The most so he would be down to seven.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: He'd be down to seven. But when he sold the team,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: do you remember what happened? He sold that. He acquired
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: all that cash, But when he sold it, I guess
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: it was in a contract that he would still be
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: involved in.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: Decision making, decision making stuff.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: And then they traded Luca.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: And he's like, they don't talk to me about that
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: at all.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: And then he realized, oh, I'm not involved at all
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: in any decision making things, and now he's mad about it,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: and I'm just sort of sitting there, like, do you
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: really think when somebody buys buys you out, that they're
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: just going to allow you to run the business that
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: they now own.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: That's not how this works. That is pretty funny. I
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: think about it. Hey, what did you want all your money?
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: And I still want to call the shop?
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not That's not how business works.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: Like if I went over and I want your car,
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: but I still get to drive it.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: If I bought Bezos out of Amazon, Right, all right,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: let's just say SpaceX and and Tesla, and I bought
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: out Elon Musk, and Elon goes, you know what I
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: think we should do with our rockets? I would say,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: I don't really care what you think, because you don't
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: own the business anymore. It's gonna be what I think
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: we should do. So let's just take us through the scenario. Here,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: they're having the Luca trade discussions and Cuban's like, I
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: don't want to do it, and Dumont says, well, I do.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: Who cares what you think? Any well? He's talking about
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: the business opportunities because they want to move it outside
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: of doubt. They want to take the team from American
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: Airlines Center and move it where to Flower Mound.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Ware, Yeah, somewhere where they can do casino stuff.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: So they want to have a whole complex. And the
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: Stars and the Mavericks do not get along at all.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: They share the same building, but they do not get
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: along at the slightest.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Texta says, my neighbors sold me a car, then got
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: mad at me when I bought new seat covers.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: I'll say this, this has happened to me before. Maybe
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: I'm being a hypocrite.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: The house that we had before, the one we're.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: In now was off two fn islive.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: We spent a decent amount of money. The yard was
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: just a pile there. It was weeds and dirt. That
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: it was the front yard. The backyard was weeds and dirt.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I said, I need a yard. We spent a nice
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: chunk of money making that yard look and it was pristine.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Best compliment I ever got. Vic came to my house
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: one day and he goes, that's a good cut on
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: the line.
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: I thank you so much, probably the only compliment that
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: I've ever given you.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: Pretty much. Yeah.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: And I actually drove by my old house about six
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: months ago and it looks like trash.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: Oh, and I'm like.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Part of me did.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: It's like it's your place now, it's your yard. But
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: you dying?
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: How did you not take care of the thing that
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: I hated you? On a silver platter?
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: Happens, you know what. I'm sorry. I got to say
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: this right now. I gotta say it right now. Listen
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: to me, Listen to me, and I mean this from
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: the bottom of my heart. All of you newbies that
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: are moving into North Denver, where I was raised, my
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: parents live, I love you all. I mean, I appreciate
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: everybody that's new to town. Let me tell you something.
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: All these old Italians used to live there and take
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: care of their yards, like my grandfather took. Everybody's yard
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: was impeccables. What you have done, What you have done
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: to these lawns people, the way they look today, the
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: manner in which you you treat the lawn, there's no
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: upkeep it all, there's no pride. What is wrong with you?
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: What have you done to our place? It's a lawn,
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: it's green grass, and you've treated it like dirt.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: Some of it is dirt. You know, it's terrible. Before
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: we get to drunk, looks like trash. People. You can't
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: water can't I don't want the water police. What people doing? Hey,
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: last thing, Vic before we get the drunk takes, don't forget.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: We're shooting for July twenty first, Rockies hosting the Nationals
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: for our Mosia Lombardi and Cane night at Corsefield.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Why we just all go as a show. Why do
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: you want to make it a giant? Why do you
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: want people to see you all the time. I don't
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: want people to say you want to see you?
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: No, I'm just people have been asking what our day is?
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: No I'm just telling our day day. Has anybody asked you, Brett.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I don't see anything, no one's I think you've made
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: that up.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: Oh forgot. I just double checked and I didn't see
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: anything else. Okay, you know what, You're a trader anyway,
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: ben at dict Donald, what do you care. Let's get
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: to our favorite part of the week.
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: Drunk turks and don't give me this. We're in a
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: drought crap either because this started happening before the drought.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: Well, I will say the drought has taken, but.
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: Before the drought, people weren't taking care of their yards.
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: Was a pride, all right?
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Drunk text clips from throughout the week we saw him
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: down have speed. Makes it sound like we're hammered. What's first?
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: Bacca?
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: By the way, my third grade teacher's brother, he was
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: buried in the Netherlands. I don't care about that. I
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: know you don't.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: Listen listens I mean, so, I don't care.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: He's buried in Belgium.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: I woke up needing to know for his third grade
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: teacher's brother was buried. I had to know, Uh, what's next?
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Did you see what Terry Henry did?
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: Henry Jerry Henry After Uh, Jerry Henry, It's it's.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: Real Terry Henry's offense. H Henry. Yeah, she's that Terry Henry.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: He's pretty good, that Terry.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: Harry Henry knows ball.
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: Hell yeahersonal Ball.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Say this right now. Don't have us billy out all
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: these wars. And I'll pronounce it even properly. But I mean, whatever,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: what's next?
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Judren, my advice is done. Hello, just fed over there.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: I think it's okay. Just starting.
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: Some contest war.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: That's funny. What's next?
• 44:00
  Speaker 8: Time?
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: You know they're busy right now.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: There there's drawing of more statements. It's all they're doing
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: is drawn of statements. What else are you gonna do?
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: In Belgium, they're eating waffles and drawn of statements.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Beat insult all right, coup more.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: Go ahead.
• 44:22
  Speaker 9: Texas Tech got fined for two ttos and tortillas were
• 44:30
  Speaker 9: banned outright, sores be never played snap for the.
• 44:37
  Speaker 10: Red Rediators, and there is a law shirt Cincinnati has
• 44:45
  Speaker 10: yet to be touched. You're selling greater than twelve watch
• 44:52
  Speaker 10: Texas Tech fans believe them.
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: Oh the commissioner was the commission was coming out to
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: get in his face.
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: Oh yes, he was, you want a flour or corn tortorella.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: The last one?
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: Go ahead, Boka, Southern Belgium people pretty nice. I'll tell
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: you who the real a holes are. Though you want,
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: you want to run into a patch of a patch
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: a holes, go to Luxembourg if you want it. If
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: you want a big old sack full of ales, go
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: to Luxemburg. Trust me, I don't mind picking a fight
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: with Luxembourg.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: I got yelled at.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't even want to talk about it.
• 45:44
  Speaker 8: If you want to know where the Luxembourg I got
• 45:47
  Speaker 8: on my motorcycle and his driving rainstorm. I got yelled
• 45:52
  Speaker 8: at by a border guy in Luxembourg, Like you can't believe.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for us? iTunes, Spotify, mos Lombardy
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: and Cane. We have a wonderful weekend. Oct you Monday
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: see mhm