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22 Panels Episode #213 - The Seasons · 22 Panels - A Comic Book Podcast

• 0:02
  Tad Eggleston: Good morning, everybody. Welcome back to 22 Panels. This is episode number 213.
• 0:09
  Tad Eggleston: Across the interwebs from me is Phil.
• 0:14
  Tad Eggleston: Excellent.
• 0:16
  Phil: Rapid fire.
• 0:17
  Tad Eggleston: I, I, I, I, I just, I just, stuck Phil to his wall.
• 0:23
  Tad Eggleston: So that he can't walk away from the podcast.
• 0:26
  Phil: That's how I got on this podcast, is I was actually just walking by the studio when a bunch of web fluids stuck me to the wall, and.
• 0:33
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 0:34
  Phil: Phone was shoved in my face for an interview.
• 0:35
  Tad Eggleston: Exactly, exactly.
• 0:38
  Phil: Highly recommend.
• 0:38
  Tad Eggleston: Wow.
• 0:40
  Tad Eggleston: So, Angela M has been officially canceled.
• 0:43
  Phil: Yep.
• 0:44
  Phil: Sorry about that? It's probably…
• 0:46
  Tad Eggleston: It was a, extended town… Meeting.
• 0:52
  Tad Eggleston: You know, they normally… 2 hours, it was announced that it would be 4…
• 0:56
  Phil: Wow.
• 0:57
  Tad Eggleston: The day before that it happened, and 90 minutes of it went to… Al Galem, people are understandably…
• 1:06
  Tad Eggleston: Upset, though it doesn't seem really upset that it was canceled, as much as upset that it had to be canceled, because.
• 1:17
  Phil: Well, it sounds like.
• 1:18
  Tad Eggleston: So long to deal with things that had been…
• 1:22
  Phil: Well, they tried to not deal with things, because they re-upped their contract with this company that was the problem, and, you know.
• 1:32
  Tad Eggleston: So…
• 1:33
  Phil: Yeah, I feel like a lot of the.
• 1:34
  Tad Eggleston: So.
• 1:35
  Phil: The head honcho guy.
• 1:36
  Tad Eggleston: Well, yeah, but… but the mayor… the mayor had… had his feet to the fire at the town hall meeting, because, you know, they were sitting there going, yeah, no, it's definitely the… the… this group and whatnot, but, like…
• 1:50
  Tad Eggleston: There have been significant issues since 2016.
• 1:57
  Phil: That's fair.
• 1:59
  Tad Eggleston: So why did it take it so long to come to a head?
• 2:03
  Phil: Whaa Oh, profitability, probably.
• 2:07
  Tad Eggleston: Well, yeah, but, like, from the town's perspective.
• 2:16
  Phil: Other groups wouldn't necessarily make it less profitable.
• 2:20
  Phil: Right.
• 2:21
  Tad Eggleston: Make it more profitable.
• 2:22
  Phil: Yes, and that's where it is… there's a clear difference between the people attending and actually throwing the festival, and the people coordinating and, you know, the owners.
• 2:36
  Tad Eggleston: Sounds like a lot of the local comic book stores are trying to do things for that weekend anyway. There are a couple of adjacent fests, one, like, Indie Zine Fest, and one Christian Comic Fest that are gonna go forward anyway.
• 2:53
  Tad Eggleston: Was kind of cool to me.
• 2:55
  Phil: as…
• 2:56
  Tad Eggleston: No, it was actually kind of… looking at it, it was kind of cool to me that there was a Christian comic fest that, as I looked at it, I didn't find repulsive.
• 3:05
  Phil: That's what I was gonna say, it's like, it's weird. I normally strongly dislike Christianity, but once you bring comics into it, I'm like, I'll hear them out, you know?
• 3:13
  Tad Eggleston: Well, well, I mean, I try not to strongly dislike…
• 3:17
  Tad Eggleston: any massive thing, just because they're… I mean…
• 3:23
  Tad Eggleston: Oh god… I like a channel.
• 3:25
  Phil: I like to challenge my disagreements. Oh, it's, it's, it's…
• 3:29
  Tad Eggleston: Evanston.
• 3:33
  Phil: So that's where the…
• 3:35
  Tad Eggleston: Evanston, Illinois.
• 3:39
  Tad Eggleston: I think it was the Catholic Church?
• 3:41
  Tad Eggleston: But one of the churches in Evanston, their nativity scene.
• 3:47
  Tad Eggleston: Has Mary and Joseph, in gas masks.
• 3:51
  Phil: Wow.
• 3:51
  Tad Eggleston: And… a, a, a brown Jesus in the manger zip-tied.
• 3:58
  Phil: Holy shit!
• 4:01
  Phil: That's… pretty fucked up.
• 4:03
  Tad Eggleston: So, with their nativity scene, they are making anti-ice…
• 4:08
  Phil: Okay, okay, so I took.
• 4:10
  Tad Eggleston: So this is what I'm saying, is that, like, painting with a broad brush is a.
• 4:15
  Phil: It is!
• 4:15
  Tad Eggleston: thing.
• 4:16
  Phil: That's where… and that's where, you know, Christians are a varying…
• 4:20
  Tad Eggleston: quality. I mean, we're gonna get into this with the what kind of week has it been?
• 4:25
  Phil: That's fair.
• 4:26
  Tad Eggleston: Because, like, painting with a broad brush is where…
• 4:30
  Phil: Where we run into a lot of trouble.
• 4:32
  Phil: Yes, it is. And I just want to quickly say that my all-time favorite nativity scene was in the windows of Graham Cracker Comics off of 75th Street. They have a Godzilla nativity scene with all, like, Godzilla toys and stuff. It's great! I love it. It's hilarious. It brings me joy, just thinking about it.
• 4:52
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 4:53
  Tad Eggleston: So, I mean…
• 4:56
  Phil: Godzilla has that effect?
• 4:57
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, see, you, you just, you just, you managed to not only
• 5:04
  Tad Eggleston: like, like something Christian, but like something from, from a,
• 5:10
  Tad Eggleston: a comic chain that I almost never like anything from.
• 5:17
  Tad Eggleston: And that's…
• 5:18
  Phil: That's, like, limits of Exposures, that's the only comic chain I experienced in Chicagoland.
• 5:23
  Tad Eggleston: No, I get it.
• 5:24
  Phil: Yeah, I went to a, like, a really cool store in Chicago maybe once, and I don't remember which one.
• 5:32
  Tad Eggleston: Do you remember roughly where it was?
• 5:34
  Tad Eggleston: No, I'm unfortunately terrible with the neighborhoods and whatnot, aside from my, like, 2 or 3 that I frequented.
• 5:41
  Tad Eggleston: Because, I mean, there's Chicago comics, there's…
• 5:46
  Tad Eggleston: When you were in Chicago, I don't think Challengers was open.
• 5:50
  Tad Eggleston: Patrick might have actually… Still bin… Actually.
• 5:55
  Tad Eggleston: When you were in Chicago, it might have been Patrick or Dell that was running that Graham Crackers.
• 6:01
  Phil: Interesting.
• 6:02
  Phil: Oh!
• 6:03
  Tad Eggleston: Some of the cooler… some of the cooler stores in Chicago have come out of people that…
• 6:09
  Phil: That's what I hear.
• 6:10
  Tad Eggleston: treated particularly well by… And that's always a bummer. Went off and made their own stores.
• 6:15
  Phil: Yeah, and I, I, you know, it's, it's also funny, because Graham Crackers bought the, the comic store in my college town after I graduated.
• 6:24
  Phil: Right. So that was the other thing that was kind of funny to me. So it's…
• 6:28
  Phil: I, I do, I do feel bad that the chain does not have the best reputation, you know.
• 6:35
  Tad Eggleston: -Oh.
• 6:36
  Phil: Next time, I'll have to see the doctor.
• 6:38
  Tad Eggleston: Anglem canceled, you threw in an ex-perspective owner of DC Comics is Netflix? Maybe. And, like…
• 6:48
  Tad Eggleston: I'm gonna say a little bit more than perspective, because Netflix actually sent out an email to subscribers yesterday.
• 6:54
  Phil: Wow.
• 6:56
  Tad Eggleston: And while it did say that, like, the deal hasn't been finalized, like.
• 7:03
  Tad Eggleston: The fact that they're already starting to respond to…
• 7:10
  Tad Eggleston: for the time being, Netflix and HBO Plus will remain separate things, blah blah blah.
• 7:16
  Phil: Yeah. I think we're pretty far down…
• 7:19
  Phil: That… that does sound a lot further along than I thought it was.
• 7:22
  Tad Eggleston: And… and let's be honest, this administration isn't gonna…
• 7:27
  Phil: Yo. And for that matter, on… When's the last time a merger was blocked?
• 7:32
  Tad Eggleston: Well, but on one level…
• 7:39
  Tad Eggleston: I'm not… I mean, compared to a number of other recent media mergers.
• 7:44
  Phil: Yes.
• 7:46
  Tad Eggleston: like, Netflix doesn't already own a ton of other companies. Netflix is from a different… you know, I don't know that there's
• 7:55
  Tad Eggleston: as good of an anti… even as good of a traditional antitrust… I mean, I don't know my antitrust law, period. I'm not actually a fan of any time when two huge groups
• 8:06
  Tad Eggleston: become one huge group. Right. So, I very much wish that this was a thing that there were laws against.
• 8:14
  Phil: But I am not at all certain that, like, there's as much…
• 8:21
  Tad Eggleston: issue… from a legal sense with Netflix, as there would have been with, say, Paramount Skydance.
• 8:29
  Phil: And that's… honestly, when I heard that Paramount Skydance was the prospective buyer, the previous one, you know, when there was just talks of it, that sounded, oh, great, you know, this is like an… this is just more of the same that…
• 8:42
  Phil: WB is NDC.
• 8:43
  Tad Eggleston: Or, for that matter, the previous discovery…
• 8:48
  Phil: Yeah, the, the, those, yeah, those clowns.
• 8:50
  Tad Eggleston: You know…
• 8:51
  Phil: It's been terrible. As shitty as the time with AT&T was, it's wild that Discovery was worse.
• 8:58
  Tad Eggleston: No, actually, I mean, a lot of people, and for the comics, I think it's pretty unequivocally.
• 9:05
  Tad Eggleston: Discovery's probably been better. Well, yeah, not necessarily for the movies, but…
• 9:09
  Phil: Right, right. But that's… I mean, that is actually really funny. So it'd be… it'd be interesting to see how DC Comics stay under… under, you know, Netflix ownership, which just feels weird to say.
• 9:21
  Tad Eggleston: This may actually be an example where,
• 9:26
  Tad Eggleston: The recent Superman movie winds up being the savior.
• 9:30
  Phil: Yeah, yeah.
• 9:31
  Tad Eggleston: Proofed viability of product.
• 9:33
  Phil: That's what Heidi… that's what Heidi said on the beat. Yep, yep, exactly. And it's… it's also one where it's like.
• 9:40
  Phil: again, as… I wanna say it was… I'm gonna attribute it to Zach Rabiroff, because he's very funny on Blue Sky, saying that I feel so strange having a preferred outcome of this antitrust disaster.
• 9:54
  Phil: You know? It's a little surreal. It's a little surreal just to hear about corporate…
• 9:59
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, my preferred outcome would be if they were all broken up and had to be their own companies.
• 10:05
  Phil: Exactly. If we ask…
• 10:06
  Tad Eggleston: Unfortunately, I don't… I don't see that happening.
• 10:09
  Phil: Yeah. Anytime soon. Yeah. We decided the opposite was better.
• 10:13
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah… So…
• 10:20
  Phil: What kind of week has it been, Ted?
• 10:21
  Tad Eggleston: What kind of week has it been? .
• 10:24
  Phil: I'm gonna go out on a limb and say we don't even know yet.
• 10:28
  Tad Eggleston: Well, yeah, there's some of that, but, like… The way…
• 10:36
  Tad Eggleston: We already have at least some people
• 10:41
  Tad Eggleston: Trying to justify war crimes against Yeah. Alleged drug dealers.
• 10:47
  Phil: I don't even want to call them that, because there's absolutely no evidence that drugs are involved in this at all.
• 10:54
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and that's why I emphasized the alleged.
• 10:58
  Phil: That's fair.
• 10:59
  Tad Eggleston: But the other reason that I'll call them that is, like, we don't have the death penalty for drug dealing in this country.
• 11:11
  Phil: Right.
• 11:12
  Phil: Right.
• 11:13
  Phil: it… well, so here's… here's the problem that I see, is that it's clear that these…
• 11:18
  Phil: These fucking idiots are… are playing… You know, real-life risk.
• 11:24
  Phil: And they are… they're… they're intentionally behaving territorially, and are trying to initiate military conflict. Like, that is clear. That is… that is very clear that they are willing to use.
• 11:38
  Tad Eggleston: But he got.
• 11:39
  Phil: Yeah, military forces?
• 11:40
  Tad Eggleston: Peace Prize.
• 11:42
  Phil: That clearly means nothing.
• 11:44
  Phil: It's, you know, I… I'm, I'm.
• 11:46
  Tad Eggleston: the FIFA Peace Prize!
• 11:48
  Phil: the features…
• 11:49
  Tad Eggleston: The inaugural FIFA Peace Prize. He's so peaceful, they made the prize just for him!
• 11:55
  Phil: Oh, you know, I didn't really respect FIFA as an organization before this, and I don't see reason to start now.
• 12:03
  Tad Eggleston: By peaceful, I think they're referring to how… how… how sweetly he sleeps through cabinet meetings.
• 12:11
  Phil: Ugh. Yeah. I mean, it's…
• 12:13
  Tad Eggleston: Apparently, all comparisons to Sleepy Joe are really getting under his skin, so,
• 12:22
  Tad Eggleston: So, I propose that we only refer to him as Dozing Don from here on out.
• 12:27
  Phil: Pretty good, I like the alliteration there.
• 12:32
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, and, like, the show notes, I put, perfection at Take Out the Trash Day. For people who don't know what Take Out the Trash Day is, it was popularized in an episode of The West Wing, and historically, it's been…
• 12:50
  Tad Eggleston: relatively small but embarrassing stories all kind of get held for a dump on Friday.
• 13:01
  Tad Eggleston: after… Friday evening.
• 13:04
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, after the Friday evening deadlines, because Saturdays are the least read newspaper day, it's the least
• 13:13
  Tad Eggleston: watch TV Newsday, etc, and…
• 13:19
  Tad Eggleston: they have a set number of inches to fill. So, the more different things you dump.
• 13:27
  Tad Eggleston: the less attention they'll get, and they're getting that less attention on a day that nobody's paying attention.
• 13:45
  Tad Eggleston: I'm just gonna read the first paragraph from Heather Cox Richardson, and then I don't even know if I can talk about it yet, but we will be linking to it in…
• 13:57
  Tad Eggleston: In the show blurb. I love that we're now putting links in the show blurb so that they go out over Spotify and Apple and whatnot, and hopefully that doesn't get us delisted at any point. I don't know the rules, and I'm, like, pleading ignorance until then.
• 14:11
  Tad Eggleston: Hate.
• 14:12
  Phil: I heard 22 Panels doesn't have rules, so I like to think that applies externally as well.
• 14:18
  Tad Eggleston: Here's my problem with that.
• 14:21
  Phil: That's fair.
• 14:23
  Tad Eggleston: Here's my problem with.
• 14:24
  Phil: I don't even know what it is.
• 14:25
  Tad Eggleston: This whole document is about not having rules.
• 14:28
  Phil: Yes, yes.
• 14:29
  Tad Eggleston: There are rules that I believe in.
• 14:32
  Phil: Yes, I know you, I know you do. It's fair. I, I…
• 14:36
  Tad Eggleston: That refers to specific questions.
• 14:39
  Phil: I am… yes, yes, I like to facetiously be a no-rules weirdo, but for real, I do love and respect and appreciate there being some rules.
• 14:48
  Tad Eggleston: So, saved them from heaven.
• 14:50
  Phil: to function.
• 14:50
  Tad Eggleston: Heather…
• 14:51
  Tad Eggleston: Heather Crocs, Richardson. Last night, the Trump administration released the 2025 National Security Strategy of the United States of America. It did so quietly.
• 15:03
  Tad Eggleston: Although, as foreign affairs journalist at Politico Nihal Tusi noted, the release of the NSS is usually accompanied by fanfare as it shows the administration's foreign policy priorities and the way it envisions the position of the U.S. in the world.
• 15:21
  Tad Eggleston: And essentially, the reason it did so quietly is that, like, the state, the document…
• 15:33
  Tad Eggleston: as Heather describes it, and, like, I'm probably gonna have to subject myself to actually reading the damn thing at this point, cause…
• 15:41
  Tad Eggleston: Fuck.
• 15:42
  Phil: Yeah, all the quotes were pretty, were pretty…
• 15:45
  Tad Eggleston: It is essentially, .
• 15:51
  Phil: It feels like…
• 15:53
  Tad Eggleston: The sharp is not white enough anymore, so we don't like them.
• 15:56
  Phil: That's… that's what the document was saying, yes.
• 15:58
  Tad Eggleston: They've, given up on Western identity, so our, our only interest in involvement in Europe is to, to.
• 16:13
  Tad Eggleston: restore Europe's civilizational self-confidence and Western identity, quote-unquote.
• 16:21
  Phil: Ugh.
• 16:21
  Tad Eggleston: We do not suggest that Russia is an area of concern.
• 16:29
  Phil: Yeah.
• 16:31
  Tad Eggleston: There's pivoting towards Latin America and Canada, but really in a sphere of influence. Literally, there is talk of…
• 16:43
  Tad Eggleston: diplomats needing to look for American business opportunities.
• 16:49
  Phil: As well as, the part that appalled me was, saying that, NATO needs to give up on its position of the Russia war ending.
• 17:05
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 17:05
  Phil: Which… which, again, is directly in line with the announcements Putin has made of his conflict. He's claiming his conflicts are with NATO, and seeing it as a quote-unquote ever-expanding alliance, and basically saying… it's very clearly stating
• 17:21
  Phil: Russia is not the enemy, it's the friend, and we need to let them take over Ukraine. Like, that's…
• 17:27
  Phil: Oh, wow.
• 17:28
  Tad Eggleston: Wow, I didn't even… I'm looking at the document right now.
• 17:33
  Tad Eggleston: And just, like, the chapter headings.
• 17:36
  Phil: Oof.
• 17:37
  Tad Eggleston: Introduction, what is American Strategy?
• 17:40
  Phil: What is?
• 17:41
  Tad Eggleston: Subsection 1. How American, quote, strategy went astray.
• 17:48
  Phil: Oh, God.
• 17:49
  Phil: Oof.
• 17:52
  Phil: Yeah, and that's one where it's like…
• 17:54
  Tad Eggleston: 2.
• 17:56
  Tad Eggleston: President Trump's necessary, comma, welcome, correction.
• 18:01
  Phil: Oof.
• 18:02
  Phil: No.
• 18:04
  Tad Eggleston: what… italicized, should the United States want.
• 18:11
  Phil: Oof.
• 18:12
  Tad Eggleston: What do we want overall? What do we want In and from the world.
• 18:17
  Phil: Oh, boy.
• 18:19
  Tad Eggleston: What are America's available means to get what we want?
• 18:24
  Tad Eggleston: And then we have the strategy with the principles, the priorities, the regions.
• 18:29
  Tad Eggleston: Starting with the Western Hemisphere.
• 18:33
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, this is gonna get red.
• 18:35
  Phil: sometime probably today, and I might just… I'm gonna link both.
• 18:39
  Phil: Yeah. I'm gonna put them both.
• 18:42
  Phil: Yeah…
• 18:43
  Tad Eggleston: So, so, like, anybody who downloads the podcast, there should be links.
• 18:49
  Tad Eggleston: I'm gonna let, like, if you want it condensed.
• 18:57
  Tad Eggleston: you know, take Heather.
• 19:02
  Tad Eggleston: And take Heather anyway, because she'll give you, some historical perspective as well.
• 19:08
  Tad Eggleston: But… we're gonna give the government's own words, though it'll be interesting to see how long the document stays.
• 19:17
  Phil: Oh, you think they might take it down?
• 19:18
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, well, I mean, they do have a history of taking down or moving things that are embarrassing.
• 19:23
  Phil: Mmm. See, then that's… that's… that's… and here's the thing that, to me, is… it kind of helps realign and clarify the situation.
• 19:33
  Phil: they… Desperately need this to be… like…
• 19:39
  Phil: popularized. They, they, you know, this is, this is what the United States as an entity in the world is doing.
• 19:46
  Phil: And they quietly release it in a Friday night news dump that they're embarrassed of, or don't want people to know about until after the fact.
• 19:53
  Tad Eggleston: I mean… what… I…
• 20:03
  Tad Eggleston: was thinking about before I read this, and what would have been… What we talked about.
• 20:09
  Tad Eggleston: Likely.
• 20:11
  Tad Eggleston: Is that more and more, people like Pete Hegseth, people like Tom Cotton, people like Marco Rubio.
• 20:19
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, obviously people like Donald Trump and Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon, etc.
• 20:27
  Tad Eggleston: Are behaving like they understand.
• 20:31
  Tad Eggleston: That if they ever lose power, They're going to jail.
• 20:37
  Phil: Yeah.
• 20:40
  Phil: And it's… it's wild to me how…
• 20:43
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, to a certain extent, I feel like the Supreme Court is behaving.
• 20:48
  Tad Eggleston: Like, if they lose power, not only is the court going to be restructured, but some of them are going to wind up in prison.
• 20:55
  Phil: I just… I just have to point out that's a… that's a… that's a…
• 21:01
  Phil: I… it's hard for me to…
• 21:04
  Phil: comprehend what the Supreme Court losing power would look like.
• 21:09
  Tad Eggleston: You know, like…
• 21:11
  Phil: That's the thing, it's one thing we talk about, or I…
• 21:15
  Phil: I don't… I don't remember if I've talked about it with you or just… is just a friend of mine, but the idea that, you know, democratic mechanisms, you know, like, oh, there's no mechanism to remove
• 21:26
  Phil: people from the Supreme Court. I think there is, you know, something like.
• 21:28
  Tad Eggleston: There is, there's impeachment.
• 21:30
  Phil: Yeah, but it's not being done, you know?
• 21:33
  Tad Eggleston: No.
• 21:33
  Phil: So, I mean…
• 21:34
  Tad Eggleston: It's just as hard as presidential impeachment.
• 21:37
  Phil: Yeah, yeah. And so, you know, I think that, unfortunately, we are very clearly hitting that point where our own safeguards are being… I mean, it's clear that the safeguards are being ignored, you know? This is…
• 21:54
  Tad Eggleston: Well, yeah, but what I mean is…
• 22:01
  Tad Eggleston: The wrongdoers, I feel like, have started to cross a line in their blatantness that indicates that they know that they have so completely ignored the safeguards, acted so completely out of bounds, that they are legitimately worried that if they…
• 22:21
  Phil: lose power, they're going to jail.
• 22:22
  Tad Eggleston: Lose power, either the existing safeguards will be enacted, or there will be changes made to make it easier.
• 22:31
  Phil: Yeah. And I guess… So here's…
• 22:35
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, what if there was a… what if there was a constitutional amendment that changed it so it only required
• 22:42
  Tad Eggleston: 55% of the vote to convict in the Senate.
• 22:48
  Phil: Yeah, and I guess it… the… the reason… the reason why…
• 22:53
  Phil: I remain worried, despite, you know, them seeming to be acting more rashly because they're worried about losing power.
• 23:04
  Tad Eggleston: For that matter, what if there was a constitutional amendment that said.
• 23:09
  Tad Eggleston: They don't have to be impeached and removed if they're convicted of a crime.
• 23:16
  Phil: Yeah, and the thing is, though, is that I… I don't know how easily constitutional amendments are going to get passed.
• 23:25
  Tad Eggleston: That matter. But, I mean, how about this one?
• 23:31
  Tad Eggleston: What if the Senate changed the law.
• 23:37
  Tad Eggleston: And I'm pretty certain this could be written constitutionally, where no, they can't be removed from the Supreme Court, but they can serve from prison.
• 23:47
  Tad Eggleston: And they did so as… They expanded the court.
• 23:56
  Phil: I mean, that's…
• 23:58
  Phil: Dude, the… the issue I have with… with entertaining those lines of thought is that it… it… it… requires…
• 24:08
  Tad Eggleston: I'm not saying that any of these are easy, I'm saying
• 24:12
  Tad Eggleston: If… particularly if I'm Roberts, Alito, Kavanaugh, or Thomas, these are things that I'm really worried about.
• 24:27
  Tad Eggleston: Because if I'm Roberts, Alito, Kavanaugh, or…
• 24:30
  Tad Eggleston: Well, maybe not Kavanaugh, because I think he's truly stupid.
• 24:35
  Tad Eggleston: If I'm… if I'm Roberts Alito, or Thomas, I know that I've committed crimes.
• 24:43
  Phil: Yeah. I guess… so here's… here's what I'm… here's what I'm trying to articulate.
• 24:47
  Phil: the previous administration, you know, the first… the first Trump term.
• 24:52
  Phil: I was under the impression that, okay, when they lose power.
• 24:56
  Phil: they're going to jail. You know, that… that… and it almost happened. You know, it… it… they're…
• 25:01
  Phil: There were… steps were taken, but it didn't move fast enough, and it didn't happen.
• 25:05
  Phil: So, it's almost like, okay, wow, the first administration was them…
• 25:11
  Tad Eggleston: behaving in a way where they would go to jail if they lose power, but not realizing that's what would happen. It almost happening, and now there's… Well, but, but, but, but two things.
• 25:19
  Phil: Yeah.
• 25:19
  Tad Eggleston: First, they moved way slower.
• 25:22
  Phil: Yeah.
• 25:23
  Tad Eggleston: Second, How did they avoid going to jail?
• 25:28
  Phil: By regaining power, yes.
• 25:30
  Phil: Yeah.
• 25:31
  Phil: No, I know, I know. It's, it's just, it's just, it's one of those things where, where I'm like.
• 25:36
  Tad Eggleston: Again, I'm not saying that I'm convinced that the system would work.
• 25:41
  Tad Eggleston: That's… that's not what I'm saying here.
• 25:43
  Phil: I'm saying that they are enough afraid of the system working.
• 25:48
  Tad Eggleston: That all guardrails are off.
• 25:49
  Phil: Yeah.
• 25:51
  Phil: Yeah.
• 25:53
  Tad Eggleston: they don't… I mean…
• 25:56
  Tad Eggleston: Frankly, if you're somebody like that, do you want the 1 in 10 chance that you're gonna go to prison for the rest of your life?
• 26:07
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, you under…
• 26:08
  Phil: Yeah.
• 26:09
  Tad Eggleston: Y-you understand that at this point, like.
• 26:12
  Tad Eggleston: There are large numbers of them.
• 26:15
  Tad Eggleston: That there are cases for murder.
• 26:25
  Tad Eggleston: For that matter, you know, like…
• 26:31
  Tad Eggleston: What if the next Congress just joins the international war?
• 26:37
  Phil: brunal.
• 26:40
  Tad Eggleston: We're not signatories of that, but if we were.
• 26:44
  Tad Eggleston: We'd just hand them over to The Hague.
• 26:47
  Phil: That'd be nice.
• 26:48
  Tad Eggleston: And I say this knowing that it is entirely possible that Barack Obama would have to go stand there, too.
• 26:55
  Phil: Yeah.
• 26:56
  Phil: Yeah, I thought about, you know,
• 27:01
  Phil: Yeah, it's… it's one of those things where it's…
• 27:03
  Tad Eggleston: Pray that it would turn out, that the evidence would exonerate him.
• 27:11
  Tad Eggleston: Because there's so much that we don't know, but we do know that there were mistakes were made.
• 27:15
  Tad Eggleston: We do know that there were civilians that died that shouldn't have.
• 27:19
  Tad Eggleston: And frankly, more and more, I think drone strikes in general our terrorism. Yeah.
• 27:25
  Phil: Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's it's,
• 27:30
  Phil: Ugh. Sorry, I, I'm, I'm stifling some, some…
• 27:33
  Phil: Pretty, pretty dark humor here.
• 27:36
  Tad Eggleston: Oh.
• 27:37
  Phil: Yeah, I, I think, I think that, I think that… It's… it's… it's…
• 27:43
  Phil: It's been the case for a long time that
• 27:46
  Phil: you know, America has been a two-faced nation that, you know.
• 27:50
  Tad Eggleston: Well, but, I mean, just taking this full circle before we…
• 27:55
  Phil: move on into new to order. That's probably the move.
• 28:00
  Tad Eggleston: I said that, like, the painting with a broad brush would come up again.
• 28:07
  Tad Eggleston: What this document says is that…
• 28:13
  Tad Eggleston: It's not good enough to believe that we created a better system.
• 28:20
  Tad Eggleston: and that we've done more with our resources than other countries. That's not enough for American exceptionalism. In their version of exceptionalism, the American people need to be
• 28:33
  Tad Eggleston: better people. Not to have earned or act better, but to be counted as better. Whatever they do, it's automatically
• 28:45
  Tad Eggleston: Better.
• 28:53
  Tad Eggleston: And painting with that broad brush just…
• 28:58
  Tad Eggleston: That's… that's how you get rid of all… Insight and reflection.
• 29:07
  Tad Eggleston: It's how you stop actually getting better.
• 29:14
  Phil: Yeah, I mean, it's… I… I guess…
• 29:18
  Phil: I guess what I would want to say is that if I'm painting with a broad brush by saying that America is, you know, the America that…
• 29:27
  Tad Eggleston: I know.
• 29:28
  Phil: Of reality. It's different from the American people.
• 29:30
  Tad Eggleston: Christianity that you were…
• 29:32
  Phil: I was.
• 29:33
  Tad Eggleston: Broadbrush early on. That's fair.
• 29:34
  Phil: That's fair. No, no, no, I just meant now.
• 29:36
  Tad Eggleston: I wasn't saying that you were using a broad brush now.
• 29:39
  Phil: Okay, that's fair. I was saying this document is asking for a broad brush.
• 29:43
  Phil: I, I, I kind of, I kind of feel like this document is less painting.
• 29:48
  Phil: And more just… exuding excrement, you know?
• 29:53
  Tad Eggleston: Huh. Like…
• 29:54
  Phil: That's… that's… that's where I was going with that one, but .
• 29:57
  Tad Eggleston: But according to this document, you should be beheaded for that, essentially. I mean, it doesn't say that quite…
• 30:03
  Phil: No, it doesn't.
• 30:04
  Tad Eggleston: But…
• 30:05
  Phil: didn't… didn't quite take that turn. But yeah, I mean, that's… and that's… the fact that I look like the white man…
• 30:11
  Tad Eggleston: You one of the…
• 30:12
  Phil: Yes.
• 30:13
  Tad Eggleston: One of the.
• 30:14
  Phil: Now is… now is the time.
• 30:15
  Tad Eggleston: Things that, that are, are, are…
• 30:18
  Phil: Anyone who looks like… well, admittedly, okay, the one thing that keeps me out of the club is my beard, apparently. Beard and long hair. That's… that's how you know.
• 30:26
  Tad Eggleston: But, but, but, but, let's, let's see.
• 30:29
  Phil: But at the same time, I just want to say that now is… I feel like… I've felt this way for a long time, but I think that, you know, we need to speak plainly, and I know you have been. We've been rejecting this, but I'm saying that…
• 30:41
  Phil: I don't know what to do other than say, this is scary, I don't agree with it.
• 30:47
  Phil: And these people need to be removed from power.
• 30:51
  Phil: You know? And I think that…
• 30:54
  Phil: That needs to be said and taken seriously. Yes. And… and acted upon.
• 31:02
  Phil: And, like, I… I am also… I guess I'm not concerned with, you know, oh, if you… if you do… if you do anything, then the administration will want to behead you. Okay, again, my… my understanding is that if the administration looked too closely at me, they would find those reasons already, so…
• 31:19
  Tad Eggleston: That's my point. Yeah. I wasn't, I wasn't saying to…
• 31:21
  Phil: No.
• 31:22
  Tad Eggleston: I was saying, that's why you don't count as one of the broad-brush, exceptional Americans. You're one of the ones that has already been corrupted and lost self-confidence in your westernized.
• 31:35
  Phil: Right, right, yeah. I am the not-white enough European who is holding us back. Yes, boo is me, please. I would love to be the cause of all of our problems.
• 31:50
  Phil: Oh, this is why we need comics, Dad. This is why we desperately need.
• 31:55
  Tad Eggleston: Their vision of our country's inherent greatness and decency.
• 32:00
  Tad Eggleston: requires the restoration and reinvigoration of American spiritual and cultural health. They're talking about you, Phil.
• 32:07
  Phil: Yep, oof.
• 32:09
  Tad Eggleston: An America that cherishes its past glories and its heroes, and looks forward to a new golden age.
• 32:16
  Tad Eggleston: Growing numbers of strong, traditional families that raise healthy children.
• 32:22
  Phil: You know, and this is where I… I… I just want to be… you know, I want to be clever and say the non-traditional family has, you know, made strides, and if anything, if we look at the track record of the traditional family, there's been a lot of abuses that the non-traditional family could correct.
• 32:40
  Phil: Oh, I try, I try to, I try to turn to, to silliness, and… Yeah. Yeah, and thankfully.
• 32:47
  Tad Eggleston: There's… there's not silliness this week. There just isn't.
• 32:51
  Phil: But there is Death Fight Forever, number 1 of 5, from Andrew McLeon, Alexis Zurit, a miniseries premiere, Super Thief Bruiser Brothers Crash and Bash Biggle jump into action to help Commander Thunderfang fight interdimensional crime boss Lord Slyther, but in a run-in with Marla Mendoza, leader of the Cops.
• 33:14
  Phil: Spelled C-O-P-Z. Gang and Slyther's more… most…
• 33:18
  Phil: formidable loyalist changes the course of Bash's life forever. An all-new action comedy from best-selling writer Andrew McLean of Headlopper fame and gonzo artist Alexis Zurit.
• 33:29
  Phil: of Space Riders fame. Final word of cutoff, January 26th, in stores, February 18th, from Image Comics.
• 33:39
  Tad Eggleston: It's Jeff meets Daredevil.
• 33:41
  Phil: Woohoo!
• 33:43
  Tad Eggleston: my two favorite characters in the Marvel Universe.
• 33:46
  Phil: Such a firefighter.
• 33:47
  Tad Eggleston: sweatshirt.
• 33:48
  Phil: Oh, nice!
• 33:48
  Tad Eggleston: and cats.
• 33:50
  Phil: Yeah. That's a good one. You and Positivity, I have… I have Pickle Rick. I'm antisocial.
• 33:55
  Tad Eggleston: It's Jeff meets Daredevil from Kelly Thompson and Guri Huru. The adventures of Jeff the Landshock continue with Daredevil in this special news story.
• 34:07
  Tad Eggleston: From Star Jeff Team Kelly Thompson and Giri Huru.
• 34:13
  Tad Eggleston: The land shark learns the meaning of courage from the man without fear. Plus, the latest season of It's Jeff appears in print for the very first time, so you can join all the adorableness and chaos the way Daredevil himself would without a phone screen. Don't miss what happens when Jeff wins the lottery, goes to the groomer, and best of all, takes on the Hulk.
• 34:34
  Tad Eggleston: Final order cutoff is February… er, January 19th, in stores, February 18th, from Marvel Comics. I love Jeff, I love Daredevil. I'm looking forward to this.
• 34:46
  Phil: It's gonna be a good time.
• 34:49
  Phil: Alright, I've been looking forward to this for a while. A Mischief of Magpies, by Simon Spurrier and Matthias Bergera, from Distillery. This is a series that was… I heard about…
• 35:05
  Phil: earlier this year, way earlier this year, back in March or February, but it looks like it's getting re-solicited now, which is great, because I thought I missed it.
• 35:14
  Phil: I thought I completely missed this book, but it hasn't come out yet, which is perfect. If you are a fan of, their previous work, CODA, or, One…
• 35:26
  Phil: It's out.
• 35:28
  Phil: Step by bloody step, that's it. Okay. And now the summary. Mar has a secret. Sometimes, without warning, falls out of the world. This would be an inconvenience if his life wasn't already such a drag. When he's gone, he finds himself in an extraordinary city, a city which is also a machine.
• 35:45
  Phil: Endlessly crossing a shoreless ocean. A city of two halves, the bright, bustling spires above the waves, and the beast-haunted twilight halls below. And between, clowning along the rustling beach, a troop of anarchists.
• 35:59
  Phil: anarchic mages with all the answers, but none of the questions. I am super pumped for this, this is gonna be gorgeous. It is final or a cutoff of January 19th in stores, March 11th, again from Distillery.
• 36:15
  Tad Eggleston: Alright, this one is, this one's… this one's interesting.
• 36:20
  Phil: Also looks cool.
• 36:21
  Tad Eggleston: Well, what do you notice immediately as you look at it?
• 36:27
  Phil: That it is not written by Stan Sakai.
• 36:30
  Tad Eggleston: Alright, so this is our first Usagi Yojimbo solo comic.
• 36:35
  Tad Eggleston: Kind of.
• 36:37
  Tad Eggleston: But, like, not Usagi Power Rangers, not Usagi Turtles.
• 36:43
  Tad Eggleston: that's not written and drawn by Stank Sakai. This is Sagi Yojimbo Kaito84 from Zach Rosenberg and Jared Callum.
• 36:53
  Tad Eggleston: In 1984, Osaka
• 36:57
  Tad Eggleston: The bloodline of Miyamata Usagi lives on through Kaito Usagi, a cunning rabbit thief with a rebellious spirit. He embodies his ancestors' legacy in a way the stoic samurai we know and love never could.
• 37:14
  Tad Eggleston: Daring new heist for Legendary spear sets Kaido down a perilous path, forever altering his destiny and placing the fate of Osaka and perhaps the world on his shoulders.
• 37:27
  Tad Eggleston: So yeah, this is kind of following the…
• 37:30
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, Stan does Space Usagi.
• 37:33
  Tad Eggleston: But you've, you've also got, Samurai Rabbit on Netflix is another… future…
• 37:42
  Tad Eggleston: descendant of Usagi, so this, this follows that, that, that…
• 37:49
  Tad Eggleston: what's the word I'm looking for? Tradition.
• 37:52
  Tad Eggleston: But yeah, Zach Rosenberg and Jared Callum getting to…
• 37:57
  Tad Eggleston: Getting to bring Usagi into the 80s, I love this cover.
• 38:03
  Phil: I did not even know that there was a Netflix, Usagi.
• 38:09
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, it's fantastic.
• 38:10
  Phil: And if I had known… Samurai Rabbit. I see it, yeah, I just looked it up, because I'm like, I had never heard of that. It came out back in 2022.
• 38:19
  Tad Eggleston: They're two seasons.
• 38:21
  Phil: Yeah, I had no idea. I had no idea this existed, so now I have to go.
• 38:24
  Tad Eggleston: This is how I know that you haven't listened to all of our episodes.
• 38:27
  Phil: I haven't… I'm so sorry, Ted. There's a lot of them, to be fair.
• 38:31
  Tad Eggleston: Cause I have talked about it on the show.
• 38:33
  Phil: I… and I… I… I miss those. I miss those ones.
• 38:36
  Tad Eggleston: My wife just texted me, and I don't know exactly where did she get this from, let's see.
• 38:43
  Tad Eggleston: She got… oh, the Hard Times is re… is reporting that Trump has also been awarded the Hormel Peace Prize?
• 38:51
  Tad Eggleston: My apologies to Hormel, because… because this is clearly a parody article, and probably not fair to them.
• 38:59
  Phil: Who is Hormel?
• 39:01
  Tad Eggleston: Hormel's a food manufacturer. They make, like,
• 39:06
  Tad Eggleston: What's their most famous product?
• 39:15
  Phil: Oh, breakfast meats!
• 39:16
  Phil: Oh my, oh, oh, okay, pepperoni! Like, the cheap, plasticky pepperoni, oh my god. Okay, this is…
• 39:24
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and they've got their chili.
• 39:27
  Phil: You know, this is where I want to say that I'm pretty sure the EZ Beef Corporation will be coming out with a Trump Peace Prize soon.
• 39:33
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, don't get me wrong, this pepper… I don't mind this pepperoni on pizza.
• 39:37
  Phil: I have a trash panda, and I will happily eat that pepperoni.
• 39:40
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I do this Hormel… I mean, we always have this in our refrigerator.
• 39:46
  Phil: Would I? Yes. Is it a good idea? Absolutely.
• 39:52
  Tad Eggleston: So, again, I want to make clear that that was only for laughing at going off of the FIFA Peace Prize, which, by the way, was a real thing.
• 40:07
  Phil: Oof.
• 40:08
  Tad Eggleston: Anybody from Hormel, my apologies if, if this… if this joke offends you, because, it would be right if it did. We should have…
• 40:19
  Phil: Yeah, you know, that's… I mean, more accurate would be the MyPillow Priest Prize. Oh, goodness.
• 40:29
  Phil: Oh, I don't think anyone who owns… One America News piece.
• 40:33
  Tad Eggleston: fries.
• 40:36
  Phil: No peace for my pillow.
• 40:38
  Tad Eggleston: I'm certain that he's been given the KKK Peace Prize in secret, in secret ceremonies.
• 40:44
  Phil: And that's… that's… that, in hindsight, was really a big moment that most of America missed when fucking David Duke endorsed him, and he said, I don't see what the problem is. I'm not… no. And it's like.
• 40:57
  Phil: People not seeing that that was a problem is part of the problem.
• 41:01
  Tad Eggleston: Wow. Yeah, I'm sorry.
• 41:02
  Phil: Sorry, I'm sorry we had to tarnish Yojimbo with, with,
• 41:05
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, we were done with you, Jimbo.
• 41:08
  Phil: That's fair.
• 41:08
  Tad Eggleston: So, I mean, we kind of went in between. So now we'll talk some, graphic novels. This one looks just fun.
• 41:18
  Tad Eggleston: Jessica Campbell at Drawing Quarterly brings us, Hot or Not, 20… 20th Century Male Artists, a hilarious send-up of the art world's patriarchy.
• 41:29
  Tad Eggleston: The history of 20th century art is filled with men, but one key component has always been missing. Which of these men are bonable, and which are not?
• 41:39
  Tad Eggleston: Jessica Campbell has created the definitive resource on this very important subject in a hilarious rundown of male artists' hotness and notness. From cheeky scratch-off cover and curator's statement, Jessica Campbell's Hot or Not is a delightful, cheeky exclamation of female desire and utter lack thereof.
• 42:01
  Phil: It's… it's…
• 42:02
  Phil: That does sound hilarious. I would also like to say that, the phallicness of the cover really snuck up on me, you know? It didn't jump out. At first, I was like, oh, those are some interesting leaves.
• 42:15
  Phil: Some interesting shaped, foliage.
• 42:18
  Phil: Yep.
• 42:20
  Tad Eggleston: So, FOC is January 26th, in stores on March 18th.
• 42:26
  Phil: I'm gonna have to take a look at that one.
• 42:29
  Phil: Alright, next up we have The Pancake Trap from Stephanie Young and Allison Lassiter. Join Maple and Margaret Sanford in The Pancake Trap as they learn the differences between…
• 42:42
  Phil: And they learned that differences can be strengths, change can reveal who we truly are, and that love is thicker than batter. Maple and Margaret Sanford might be sisters, but they couldn't be more different. 10-year-old Maple is pancake-obsessed, griddle cook, determined to…
• 42:56
  Phil: She's a 10-year-old griddle cook with this economy, guys.
• 43:00
  Phil: Determined to save their grandma's failing restaurant, Dot's Diner. Margaret is a college-bound beauty queen who can't wait for their mom to sell the rundown restaurant. On the last day before Dot's Diner will be sold to the town's multi-millionaire mogul, the girls are thrown into a dangerous food-themed treasure hunt, looking for gold left by runaway outlaw Crispy Crawler.
• 43:21
  Phil: So, yeah, that looks like a fun all-ages series. There is a French Bulldog on the cover, which is absolutely adorable. Final order cutoff for this one.
• 43:30
  Phil: is, May 18th, in-stores June 10th. That's a, that's a ways away.
• 43:38
  Tad Eggleston: Super Punk!
• 43:40
  Tad Eggleston: from Myrta Santana and Guillerm.
• 43:43
  Tad Eggleston: at Treka.
• 43:45
  Tad Eggleston: Meet Violetta. Violetta is a 13-year-old skateboarder and podcaster, but most brutally, she's a punk!
• 43:52
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, and a superhero, too. Superhero plus punk equals super punk. That's Violetta. After discovering her grandfather's old cassette player.
• 44:01
  Tad Eggleston: God, that makes me feel old. Violet does… I mean, I'm a grandfather too, so it makes sense. Violet decides to play a cassette tape backwards. Why? It's pure punk rebellion, duh.
• 44:13
  Tad Eggleston: What she didn't know was that this rebellious act would grant her magical powers AND unleash monsters. A lot of them.
• 44:21
  Tad Eggleston: Violetta will need to use all her superpowers to protect her home of hollow hills from the strange creatures and send them back to wherever they came from. Luckily, she's joined by Alan, Violetta's faithful sidekick and fellow podcaster. Together, they'll have to find a way to put these monsters back in their place, but between homework, podcasting, and skateboarding, Violetta has a tough time managing it all.
• 44:44
  Tad Eggleston: When a horde of monsters descend on her school, will this superpunk be able to save the day? Multi-award-winning comic artist Gilhelm Petratica and TV writer Myrta Santana bring you a Super Punk, a radical adventure story about the need to rebel and act out to protect the people and things you love.
• 45:03
  Tad Eggleston: Final order cutoff of April 13th in stores May 6th from One Press.
• 45:09
  Phil: This looks… That doesn't sound like fun.
• 45:11
  Tad Eggleston: This looks fun.
• 45:17
  Phil: Alright, now we have Wolfsbane, Volume 1, from Ryan Cady and Morgan Bean. Following in her father's legacy, Quinn's entire life has been devoted to slaying werewolves, but when a young victim falls into her care and her stash of inherited silver bullets begin to run low, the horror of the monsters grows stronger.
• 45:37
  Phil: It's gonna be final order cutoff of January 5th, in stores, February 4th.
• 45:45
  Tad Eggleston: Alright, a couple of collections.
• 45:49
  Tad Eggleston: Action Before the Ban, the archival collection. Celebrating 50 years of Britain's most controversial comic. A violent, gritty, and unrelenting, Action Comic was the brainchild of Pat Mills and Jeff Camp. Tasked with creating a new anthology comic.
• 46:09
  Tad Eggleston: In the IPC's Boys Adventure Division, the pair rapidly developed a winning formula, reimagining existing story ideas from fresh perspectives and infusing them with a healthy dose of modern realism. With strips such as Hook Jaw, Dredger, Lookout for Lefty, and Blackjack.
• 46:28
  Tad Eggleston: The success was instantaneous, but so was the criticism.
• 46:33
  Tad Eggleston: Many of the press, including the London Evening Standard, The Sun, and the Daily Mail, were quick to denounce the comics. While Mary Whitehouse and the pressure group, Delegates Opposing Violent Education, piled pressure on the IPC board to do something about it. In less than a year, action was pulled from circulation.
• 46:52
  Tad Eggleston: Then returned, months later, a sanitized, pale shadow of its former self.
• 46:57
  Tad Eggleston: But the spark had already been lit. Action had made its mark, and became the catalyst of the evolution of the British comic scene
• 47:05
  Tad Eggleston: peaming?
• 47:08
  Tad Eggleston: the way for 2000 AD and the British Invasion of UK talent into America. Collected here are the first 12 issues of action containing all of the strips and some of the editorial that created so much infamy back in the 70s. This is from…
• 47:28
  Tad Eggleston: Rebellion?
• 47:30
  Tad Eggleston: In, final order cutoff is January 5th, and in-store date is… February 25th.
• 47:42
  Phil: It's a little piece of comics history for you.
• 47:44
  Tad Eggleston: Yes, it is.
• 47:48
  Phil: Alrighty, and then we've got something called Wild Animals from Ed Brisson, Andy Kuhn.
• 47:55
  Phil: Neil's life has been falling apart ever since his father was killed by crooked cops. 15 years later, Neil's mother lays on her deathbed as he's stuck in a dead-end job, has nowhere to live, and no hope to speak of. Life keeps kicking Neil as he… and he keeps taking it, too frightened to fight back. Till now.
• 48:14
  Phil: With his world crumbling around him, Neil finds himself backed into a corner, with no choice but to make a stand and right the wrongs that have haunted him for years. Revenge is a dangerous path to walk, and the deeper Neil goes, the more he realizes that violence is all-consuming. Perfect for fans of gritty crime thrillers like Criminal and Parker.
• 48:35
  Phil: Ed Brisson and Andy Kuhn deliver a hard-hitting, high-stakes story that pulls no punches from Mad Cave. Final order cut off, January 12th, in stores February 4th.
• 48:47
  Tad Eggleston: Alright, speaking of final order cutoffs… Final order cut off for…
• 48:54
  Tad Eggleston: The week of December 15th? Well, this week, final order cutoff being actually Monday, December 15th. Ancestral Recall Collection Edition from Jordan Clark and Atagon Ilhan at Ahoy, in stores April 15th.
• 49:09
  Tad Eggleston: Babs, the Black Road South No. 1 from Garth Ennis and Jason Burroughs, also at Ahoy, in stores January 14th.
• 49:17
  Tad Eggleston: Breakthrough, Life on the Brink, Christopher Fink at Fanta Graphics on April 15th.
• 49:24
  Tad Eggleston: Night City, number one, from Matt Kint and David Lapham at Dark Horse in stores February 4th. Leo Rising from Archie Bon Giovanni at Abrams in stores January 21st. Ripcord, number one, from Cullenbun and Aniki.
• 49:39
  Tad Eggleston: at Ignition, in stores February 4th, Thing Called Truth from Ayalonda Zanfardino, Elisa Romboli at Onei on January 7th, Teodora's Letters and Enslaved Woman's Fight for Family and Freedom from Marcelo Di Solette.
• 49:58
  Tad Eggleston: at Fanta Graphics on April 8th, and Vanishing Point, the collected edition from Mark Russell, Juan Doe, Ryan Alexander Tanner, Alberto Ponticelli, at Jock, at Mad Cave on…
• 50:12
  Tad Eggleston: January 21st, and this is where I knew that I had forgotten something. I hadn't actually gone and found
• 50:20
  Tad Eggleston: current crowdfunding stuff, because…
• 50:23
  Phil: So, everything.
• 50:24
  Tad Eggleston: The thing we had listed before is,
• 50:27
  Tad Eggleston: is done. However, thanks to Heidi McDonald at The Beat, I can quickly fly through, and we'll just share what they currently have. There is a Hack Slash Volume 1-6 omnibus Deluxe hardcover.
• 50:42
  Tad Eggleston: Through December 11th.
• 50:46
  Tad Eggleston: This is,
• 50:48
  Tad Eggleston: Tim Seeley and Company with Hack Slash. Volume 6 is the new hardcover, but you can get the earliest ones, or earlier ones as well, and it is on Kickstarter.
• 51:00
  Tad Eggleston: Ayua, the manga series, Volume 1, from Lucas Bertoncello?
• 51:09
  Tad Eggleston: This is through December 9th.
• 51:17
  Phil: It's very spooky and very cool.
• 51:19
  Tad Eggleston: is also on Kickstarter.
• 51:21
  Tad Eggleston: I Will Save You, the fourth book from David Bohr and Winston Gambro, through December 11th.
• 51:29
  Tad Eggleston: Also on Kickstarter? Oh, a wordless cosmic myth in comic form. Oh, that looks kind of cool.
• 51:36
  Phil: That does look pretty cool.
• 51:37
  Tad Eggleston: from NEO1 on, through December 13th.
• 51:43
  Tad Eggleston: also on Kickstarter, Quixotic Resonance, Volume 1, original webcomic and Soundtrack.
• 51:50
  Tad Eggleston: from Silver's Castle through January 6th, aika, R.H. Silver.
• 52:01
  Tad Eggleston: Is the… the… creator.
• 52:05
  Tad Eggleston: And that is also on Kickstarter. And finally, we have the official My Chemical Romance at Dodger Stadium fanzine.
• 52:14
  Phil: Wow.
• 52:15
  Tad Eggleston: from Natasha Janfaza.
• 52:17
  Tad Eggleston: Through December 30th.
• 52:23
  Tad Eggleston: And we'll bring that up just because, you know.
• 52:27
  Tad Eggleston: It's on Kickstarter as well. You know, gerard and Mikey Way have both written their own, own comics as well, so…
• 52:38
  Phil: I know Chark had a… well, I think Mikey contributed to Killjoints, so yeah.
• 52:42
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, Mikey's… Mikey… I think Mikey's had at least one of his own, too.
• 52:48
  Phil: Okay, yeah, I missed that one too, clearly.
• 52:52
  Tad Eggleston: So… Yeah.
• 52:56
  Tad Eggleston: Anyway, that's our currently kick-starting compliments of the staff at the beat, because I, completely neglected to go find anything this week, so thank you, Heidi and company.
• 53:12
  Tad Eggleston: And Diego Higuera, in particular, is our byline on this at the beat.
• 53:19
  Phil: I'd even say, if you're listening to this and you have a Kickstarter coming up soon, feel free to reach out, let us know, and we.
• 53:24
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, always.
• 53:25
  Phil: Yeah, we'll take a look, we'll read about it on the show, we'll, you know, we like comments.
• 53:30
  Tad Eggleston: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 53:32
  Tad Eggleston: As long as you don't use AI and aren't MAGA.
• 53:37
  Phil: Yes.
• 53:38
  Phil: Those, those are… those are some pretty hard lines we've got.
• 53:41
  Tad Eggleston: Damn. So, This is, one of those, rare weeks.
• 53:48
  Tad Eggleston: where, not only the books, but the order I put them in.
• 53:55
  Tad Eggleston: for 3 books I hope would be spectacular are also the three books that I'm gonna call amazing. Impressive that it stayed this way, too, because
• 54:07
  Tad Eggleston: Like, Birds of Prey, Batman, Cheater and Cheshire, all great. Death Dog number 2, amazing. Galil Immortals, number 2, amazing. Magnificent Adventure, The Perils of Giuseppe Bergman by Milo Manara. Ugh.
• 54:21
  Tad Eggleston: Oh my god, is it good.
• 54:24
  Tad Eggleston: It's, like, just an absolute masterpiece.
• 54:29
  Tad Eggleston: Trigger warning! Strangers in Paradise sale is amazing, and I loved the wrap-up of Uncle Scrooge, Flint Hart Glomgold's Sinister Secret. However…
• 54:39
  Tad Eggleston: my top 3.
• 54:41
  Tad Eggleston: Chris Cantwell.
• 54:43
  Tad Eggleston: Takes the lead with Briar's Knight.
• 54:46
  Tad Eggleston: Briar, Knight's Terror No. 1, and Star Trek Red Shirts number 5. Briar was with Alex Linz, Red Shirts was with Megan Levins, oh my god, the twist at the end of Red Shirts just blew my fucking mind.
• 55:02
  Tad Eggleston: It just… yeah.
• 55:07
  Tad Eggleston: Giant-sized criminal, I mean…
• 55:10
  Tad Eggleston: It took two Cantwell books to beat out Giant's Ice Criminal. Did you read through the roleplay at the end?
• 55:18
  Phil: I… I unfortunately didn't get to the comic shop this week, but I am excited to read through the roleplay. I am excited to pick this one up.
• 55:25
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I… I'd love to get a shot. Peter's been wanting to run a game, and, like, it's single session, so, like, I already want him to run…
• 55:37
  Tad Eggleston: I've actually tossed two things his direction recently. I tossed the Crystal Heart and.
• 55:42
  Tad Eggleston: now the criminal.
• 55:44
  Phil: Heck yeah.
• 55:45
  Tad Eggleston: So… And then Matt Kent killed it at Bad Idea with both Save Now number 2, his,
• 55:52
  Tad Eggleston: his… his time travel story, and they're all terrible. Number 3, his,
• 55:59
  Tad Eggleston: I guess… I guess we'll call it Swords and Sorcery, that feels about right. Thomas Giarello on the time travel, Ramon Villalobos on the Swords and Sorcery, both of them just killed it.
• 56:11
  Tad Eggleston: Just… killed it.
• 56:14
  Tad Eggleston: Loved it.
• 56:15
  Tad Eggleston: So, anyway… Phil, why don't you take a walk?
• 56:24
  Phil: I will, I, you know, so I… at the… I didn't make it to the comic store this week, but I've got, They're All Terrible number 3, and, The Voice Said Kill No. 4 waiting there for me. I unfortunately forgot to,
• 56:38
  Phil: pre-order a copy of the Criminal one-shot, so I'm really hoping there's… there's an extra copy there. I have to imagine there will, as, you know, Ed and Sean are pretty dang popular. But yeah, but The Foys Head Kill No. 4, I was worried about this one. It got delayed a little bit, so I'm gonna have to reread the whole miniseries at once.
• 56:56
  Phil: You know, and it's been… it's been a…
• 56:58
  Phil: It's been a week, there's been a lot going on. Tad, this is my chance to ask you if you have a preferred baseball video game out there. My nephew is a baseball fan, and I'm trying to… I'm gonna… I am determined to find the best baseball game of the Nintendo Switch for him this year.
• 57:15
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, really… How old is he?
• 57:19
  Phil: Eastern.
• 57:21
  Tad Eggleston: Okay. See, since you said Nintendo Switch, I'm not 100%…
• 57:26
  Tad Eggleston: In terms of, like, Major League Baseball games, it's… really, the show is the only licensed game. Okay. And it's good.
• 57:36
  Phil: Yeah.
• 57:36
  Tad Eggleston: I, in fact, you know, if anybody wants to buy me a PlayStation 5 so that I can get the new version of the show, I would greatly appreciate that. Because I just don't have the $500 so that I can spend $100
• 57:51
  Tad Eggleston: to play the one game that I play.
• 57:54
  Phil: Yeah.
• 57:55
  Tad Eggleston: I really, really wish I did. I mean, you don't understand how much, like, there have been days lately where I've been almost in tears because I really just want to play the new game.
• 58:08
  Tad Eggleston: And that also has to do with my own bipolar-ness and whatnot, so, like…
• 58:14
  Tad Eggleston: don't think that I'm actually, like, THAT nuts, but…
• 58:20
  Phil: Well, it's.
• 58:20
  Tad Eggleston: I mean.
• 58:20
  Phil: It hasn't hit the comics budget yet, so it can't be that bad.
• 58:24
  Tad Eggleston: Well, that's… that's the thing. It won't. Yeah.
• 58:28
  Phil: Yeah.
• 58:28
  Tad Eggleston: comics budget.
• 58:30
  Tad Eggleston: But it does look like… Nintendo also has the Super Mega Baseball.
• 58:37
  Phil: Oof.
• 58:38
  Tad Eggleston: is…
• 58:38
  Phil: You know?
• 58:39
  Tad Eggleston: Relatively well…
• 58:41
  Phil: Is it? I mean, it looks…
• 58:42
  Tad Eggleston: Dude, but…
• 58:43
  Phil: It has, it… It's giving baseball at home vibes.
• 58:48
  Tad Eggleston: Well, but that… that's my point, is that, like, it's… it's the… for people who like to have…
• 58:58
  Tad Eggleston: something weird…
• 59:00
  Phil: Huh.
• 59:02
  Tad Eggleston: But not necessarily… like, the Major League Baseball.
• 59:11
  Phil: Yeah, I mean, I'm seeing their, Powerful Pro, 30th Anniversary from Konami, that certainly seems interesting. It looks like an old-school baseball game.
• 59:20
  Tad Eggleston: like, well, and it's also expensive enough that it makes me wonder if it's Japanese only?
• 59:29
  Phil: Oh, I found that, discovery Japan? Oh, wow, okay, there we go, so…
• 59:35
  Tad Eggleston: pan with love, so there'd have to be… you'd have to know that I don't know enough about Nintendo to know.
• 59:44
  Phil: Yeah.
• 59:45
  Tad Eggleston: If they have region codes.
• 59:47
  Phil: Right, oh, yeah, that… maybe. And this is… this is one where it's like, hey kid, I heard you like baseball, so, you're gonna learn Japanese just to play this, right?
• 59:58
  Tad Eggleston: I… I mean, it does look like there's still… even…
• 1:00:05
  Phil: Well, no, that's… that's… That's a Walmart seller.
• 1:00:09
  Tad Eggleston: Online.
• 1:00:10
  Phil: Yeah, thankfully, there's no Walmart-themed video games that I know of.
• 1:00:14
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I was just trying to figure out if they had it in stores still.
• 1:00:17
  Phil: O…
• 1:00:18
  Tad Eggleston: But it's in stock online.
• 1:00:20
  Phil: Oh…
• 1:00:21
  Tad Eggleston: Because this is from 2022, but there's the Little League Baseball.
• 1:00:25
  Phil: Okay.
• 1:00:26
  Tad Eggleston: Interesting. But no, I mean, the one…
• 1:00:29
  Phil: It's a show.
• 1:00:30
  Tad Eggleston: the show.
• 1:00:30
  Phil: Okay.
• 1:00:32
  Tad Eggleston: That price is significantly lower right now, because it's the end of the season, the new one comes out in the spring, that sort of thing.
• 1:00:39
  Phil: Oh!
• 1:00:40
  Tad Eggleston: It's like the store that I used to work at that I don't like to talk about has it for $20 right now.
• 1:00:45
  Phil: Okay, well, you know.
• 1:00:47
  Tad Eggleston: And again, it's a, like…
• 1:00:53
  Tad Eggleston: I like this game so much that it has also made me consider
• 1:01:00
  Tad Eggleston: Would it be worth just going with the Switch because it's cheaper, just so I can play this game?
• 1:01:06
  Tad Eggleston: even though it would wind up being different from what I'm used to, and I know that there's not quite the same
• 1:01:15
  Tad Eggleston: Depth of playability on… the Switch as there is on the PlayStation and the Xbox.
• 1:01:24
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. So, like, you can't go wrong with this one. That's right. If he likes baseball, this is the video game you get.
• 1:01:30
  Phil: Thank you. That is… I just wanted to make sure…
• 1:01:32
  Tad Eggleston: And then I will be jealous, because he has the game that… that I can't get.
• 1:01:38
  Phil: Well, and this is.
• 1:01:38
  Tad Eggleston: I'm still playing 22, 23, and 24, because…
• 1:01:42
  Tad Eggleston: 25 is the first one that wouldn't play on the PlayStation 4.
• 1:01:47
  Phil: And that's a dang shame. It's weird to me that they have it on the Switch, but not the PS4. That's… that's… that's a… that's a bizarre move, I gotta say.
• 1:01:56
  Tad Eggleston: The Switch is the… is the newest Nintendo.
• 1:02:00
  Phil: Oh, the Switch 2 is.
• 1:02:03
  Tad Eggleston: Oh… Make certain it'll play.
• 1:02:06
  Phil: I will have.
• 1:02:07
  Tad Eggleston: His, you might.
• 1:02:08
  Phil: I got to get an order.
• 1:02:08
  Tad Eggleston: older one.
• 1:02:10
  Phil: Yeah, this is… this is how, this is how, yep, the perils, the perils of, of being… being, an older person, trying to, trying to look for… for newfangled things. Well, thank you, thank you for the, the quick, the quick diversion into, into baseball games, Tad. That's, you know, that's… I'm… I'm…
• 1:02:28
  Phil: Thank you for being my… the Virgil to my Dante.
• 1:02:30
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, and like, if anybody wants to send me a PlayStation 5, or if you'd be willing to make contributions, my wife can set up a Ko-Fi, or, you know, email the podcast, I can give you my Venmo information. I will happily take contributions towards a PlayStation 5, because…
• 1:02:50
  Phil: Is there, is there a, PlayStation 5… get to add a PlayStation 5 tier on Patreon?
• 1:02:55
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, we should consider it, but there isn't at this time.
• 1:03:00
  Phil: I see, you know? It certainly sounds like…
• 1:03:03
  Phil: It's an advancement that Patreon could use.
• 1:03:08
  Tad Eggleston: I mean…
• 1:03:09
  Tad Eggleston: and it's dumb, but, like, the mode that I play is what they call the Diamond Dynasty mode. Oh, I think I'm familiar with that. Yeah, you do a lot of.
• 1:03:21
  Phil: You, like, create a character, and…
• 1:03:23
  Tad Eggleston: No, that's the road to the show.
• 1:03:25
  Phil: Oh, okay, okay.
• 1:03:26
  Tad Eggleston: And I play that some, but the one I play is the Diamond Dynasty mode, and it has…
• 1:03:36
  Tad Eggleston: a lot of different ways you can play. You can play 9-inning games that you can earn stuff for, you can play…
• 1:03:45
  Tad Eggleston: Seasons that involve 3-inning games that you can earn.
• 1:03:48
  Phil: Oh, interesting.
• 1:03:49
  Tad Eggleston: through, you can play maps that involve three-inning games. You build your team based on baseball cards that you earn.
• 1:03:59
  Phil: That also sounds cool, he loves baseball cards.
• 1:04:01
  Tad Eggleston: Right, so, like, it's gonna sound dumb, but, like, half the reason that I'm sad is, like.
• 1:04:09
  Tad Eggleston: for the last 3 years, there have been new Negro Leaguers every year, so…
• 1:04:13
  Tad Eggleston: I haven't gotten to play with their version of Oscar Charleston and…
• 1:04:18
  Phil: Wow…
• 1:04:19
  Tad Eggleston: and… .
• 1:04:21
  Phil: Okay. No, no, no, that's cool, I think that's, like.
• 1:04:23
  Tad Eggleston: And call Papa Bill yet.
• 1:04:25
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:04:26
  Tad Eggleston: Like, another part of how they do things in the Diamond Dynasty is, like.
• 1:04:33
  Tad Eggleston: you'll replay moments, and you'll earn cards from, like, new call-ups and whatever, so, like…
• 1:04:42
  Phil: That actually does sound pretty cool. That's a good way to, like.
• 1:04:45
  Phil: shake up your standard baseball format. Right.
• 1:04:49
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and it's… and it's annoyingly addictive.
• 1:04:52
  Phil: Aren't video games?
• 1:04:53
  Tad Eggleston: Why I want the new one rather than playing the old ones.
• 1:04:58
  Tad Eggleston: It's why I actually, like… I got the PlayStation 4.
• 1:05:05
  Tad Eggleston: As a hand-me-down from my brother…
• 1:05:11
  Tad Eggleston: when I was out with a concussion.
• 1:05:14
  Phil: Just before.
• 1:05:16
  Tad Eggleston: Just before, the show 23 was released.
• 1:05:24
  Tad Eggleston: So, I had, like, 2 weeks before the 23… er, 2 weeks where I had a PlayStation before 23 was coming out. And 22 was only $20, so of course I bought it.
• 1:05:35
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:05:36
  Tad Eggleston: But I really only played it until 23 came out, and I hadn't really… I hadn't really discovered Diamond Dynasty yet.
• 1:05:43
  Phil: Huh.
• 1:05:43
  Tad Eggleston: you know, I'd been playing the modes that were ones that I was more used to from previous games. You know, because one of the reasons that I went after it is, like, when I had my concussion, is when I dusted off my Xbox, and I was playing the most recent version of
• 1:05:58
  Tad Eggleston: Mvp Baseball, which was, like, 2000… Bye!
• 1:06:08
  Phil: Wow.
• 1:06:08
  Tad Eggleston: Something like that.
• 1:06:09
  Phil: That's funny. Wow.
• 1:06:11
  Tad Eggleston: You know, you know, before MLB The Show became… the exclusive
• 1:06:21
  Tad Eggleston: And for a long time, wasn't available on Xbox, but… so I was playing my old, old one, and… and, like, I was playing it enough, and I had a concussion, that it's like, oh, my birthday's coming up, what…
• 1:06:33
  Tad Eggleston: Is there any way we can make this happen? And, like, well, we can make it happen, because I just got a PlayStation 5, so I don't need my PlayStation 4 anymore. So, like, I had really hoped that the PlayStation 6 was gonna come out this Christmas.
• 1:06:49
  Tad Eggleston: If the PlayStation 6 had come out this Christmas.
• 1:06:52
  Phil: Then the hand-me-down would have continued.
• 1:06:54
  Tad Eggleston: There's almost certainly one of three that could have been handed down to me.
• 1:06:58
  Phil: Wow.
• 1:06:59
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:07:02
  Tad Eggleston: But it didn't come out.
• 1:07:03
  Phil: That's okay, you know? And this is where I will say that, for what it's worth, I do pretty much all of my gaming on the Switch, mostly because, I don't know, I've… I've…
• 1:07:13
  Phil: in my heart of hearts, I guess I've always been a handheld type of gamer person, more so than console, but it's just gotten more convenient. My wife likes to have a TV show on while she's doing schoolwork, and…
• 1:07:25
  Phil: Right. And I'd rather not take over the, the whole room with the sounds of, sword… sword fighting and,
• 1:07:33
  Tad Eggleston: No, I get it.
• 1:07:33
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:07:34
  Tad Eggleston: I get it? Yeah.
• 1:07:36
  Phil: It soothes me, but not her. It's worth the last little point, I just want to jokingly say, should I get my mom into anime?
• 1:07:45
  Tad Eggleston: No, just manga.
• 1:07:46
  Phil: That's fair. Yeah, well, that's… that's a good… that's a good response, we'll leave it at that. How's… you read… I see you read one chapter of One Piece this week.
• 1:07:55
  Phil: Yeah, which is funny, because I read 2 whole chapters of Mob Psycho 100.
• 1:08:00
  Tad Eggleston: keep beating me. I did read, I did read two chapters of, of,
• 1:08:05
  Tad Eggleston: Hirakami Mound, so, like, my baseball manga…
• 1:08:11
  Tad Eggleston: I read 2 chapters of. So I read 3 chapters of manga total this week.
• 1:08:15
  Phil: Okay. Okay. Should we get you… should we change the, the heading of the section? Should it not be the one-piece Race, but should… No.
• 1:08:22
  Tad Eggleston: because I want to encourage myself to get…
• 1:08:25
  Phil: Oh, okay, so we… we've gotta get through One Piece. We gotta get you through One Piece. I want… I want…
• 1:08:32
  Tad Eggleston: the original goal, and I still have it.
• 1:08:35
  Phil: Yeah, it's to… to get… to get caught up.
• 1:08:37
  Tad Eggleston: When the last chapter comes out.
• 1:08:40
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:08:41
  Tad Eggleston: And they're officially in their final arc.
• 1:08:45
  Tad Eggleston: No clue on how long that will be, and some arcs have been as many as 300 chapters, whatever.
• 1:08:51
  Tad Eggleston: her final arc.
• 1:08:52
  Phil: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:54
  Tad Eggleston: When the last chapter comes out.
• 1:08:56
  Tad Eggleston: I wanna be reading it fresh.
• 1:08:59
  Phil: Yes.
• 1:09:00
  Phil: Okay, okay. So yes, this is… this is turning into a real high-stakes gambit for you.
• 1:09:06
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, it has been for a long time, but yeah, no, I… I need to… I need to put a few hundred chapters under my belt sometime soon.
• 1:09:13
  Phil: It's definitely one of my, my…
• 1:09:15
  Tad Eggleston: goals for Christmas break.
• 1:09:17
  Phil: Wow.
• 1:09:18
  Phil: lawfully.
• 1:09:20
  Tad Eggleston: And of course.
• 1:09:20
  Phil: Of course, the… I like… I like picking a quote from the…
• 1:09:24
  Phil: The chapter I just read, and this week's is, and yet, Mob Was Fooled.
• 1:09:30
  Phil: It's… it's such a funny series. It's one that every time I'm like, I don't know, this is a little strange, nothing's really happening, and it's just kind of goofy, and then a line like that'll come out, and I'll just burst out laughing. It's… it's so much fun.
• 1:09:44
  Tad Eggleston: Me neat. So, how about…
• 1:09:52
  Phil: the seasons?
• 1:09:53
  Tad Eggleston: We move into great responsibility in the seasons.
• 1:09:55
  Phil: Yeah…
• 1:09:58
  Tad Eggleston: I have lots of thoughts, almost all of them good.
• 1:10:01
  Phil: Okay. But I'm gonna let you start first, because I think… Okay.
• 1:10:04
  Tad Eggleston: I think half of my deeper thoughts are more about… The comic market, and how…
• 1:10:12
  Phil: Okay.
• 1:10:13
  Tad Eggleston: How the seasons represents it.
• 1:10:16
  Phil: That's very interesting. So I only read the first 5 issues, because.
• 1:10:21
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, that was all we were reading. We were reading the first trade.
• 1:10:23
  Phil: Yeah, well, I read the first trade, and then I read one more issue after that, and the reason I stopped.
• 1:10:29
  Tad Eggleston: I thought the first trade was 5 issues.
• 1:10:31
  Phil: No, it was only 4.
• 1:10:32
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 1:10:32
  Phil: because… and that's what I'm seeing, is that the… the, it looks like each trade is probably only going to be four… four issues, because there's only four seasons.
• 1:10:41
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 1:10:42
  Phil: So the… the cyclical nature of it, I thought really interesting. I loved how issue one felt so kinetic, like, it just felt like… like a very, okay, we're following this letter.
• 1:10:56
  Phil: like, going all throughout town and everything, it was just… the physicality of it was so great, and I absolutely adored the artwork. It was… it was wonderful in so many ways, of the shifting styles.
• 1:11:09
  Phil: Well, it was… it was a subtly shifting style, because it's really only the main… the main one, and then there's a few characters that look super cartoony and distorted. But it was really cool, I'm very interested to see where it goes.
• 1:11:22
  Phil: it's… it's so… I had… I had more thoughts than… than just, this was neat.
• 1:11:30
  Phil: it's… it's definitely… well, it's hard to get, like, a strong feel for it, because I do think this… this is a book that would read better issue to issue than in trade.
• 1:11:42
  Phil: Yay.
• 1:11:43
  Tad Eggleston: be… I'm gonna actually argue that.
• 1:11:46
  Tad Eggleston: You said you are? Oh, you're gonna argue… okay, against it? Okay. Do you like the trade? And I guess the reason for that is… Well, no, I think it's set up for either.
• 1:11:54
  Phil: It definitely is. It definitely is, because the trade was short enough to where it'll hook you, and you'll want to keep reading, and there's more to.
• 1:12:02
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, this… this is… this is… I felt like I read two issue ones.
• 1:12:07
  Phil: Oh, for just the one trade?
• 1:12:09
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I felt like I read the issue 1 that was the issue one.
• 1:12:14
  Tad Eggleston: And I also felt like the trade was an issue one.
• 1:12:17
  Phil: A little bit, yeah, I could see that, because that… and that was why I was saying that I'd want.
• 1:12:22
  Tad Eggleston: read it.
• 1:12:22
  Phil: Month to month is because the narrative momentum, like, It… it's… it's still building.
• 1:12:27
  Tad Eggleston: No, I think the narrative momentum is actually built for the trade.
• 1:12:31
  Phil: Oh, okay. Oh, so you think then reading Volume 2, you're gonna get, a bigger, satisfying chunk than, because I felt like… I felt like we…
• 1:12:42
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I don't know yet.
• 1:12:44
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:12:45
  Tad Eggleston: But… but… and… and, like, I'm not… it didn't slog at all.
• 1:12:51
  Phil: Yeah. Right?
• 1:12:52
  Tad Eggleston: But…
• 1:12:56
  Tad Eggleston: Almost all of the new information after 1?
• 1:13:01
  Tad Eggleston: Came in four.
• 1:13:03
  Phil: I can see that.
• 1:13:05
  Phil: Yeah, 2 and 3 were kind of…
• 1:13:07
  Tad Eggleston: Or, or, or really…
• 1:13:10
  Tad Eggleston: 2, 3, and 4 had as much new information as 1 did.
• 1:13:14
  Phil: Yeah. And one…
• 1:13:16
  Tad Eggleston: Had your typical amount of Bang! Let's get you in.
• 1:13:21
  Phil: Huh.
• 1:13:23
  Tad Eggleston: So, I feel like both Issue 1 and Trade Paperback 1, their entire purpose is to get you to buy Issue 2 slash Trade Paperback 2. And that's not a bad strategy, and it's not bad for storytelling, either. I mean, it's not… it's not in any way, shape, or form like a DIG.
• 1:13:42
  Phil: Right, right, right.
• 1:13:43
  Tad Eggleston: In fact, there's something impressive about managing to have both a great… Issue 1 and a great
• 1:13:54
  Tad Eggleston: introductory trade. I mean, I think the last book that I can think of that I will say
• 1:14:01
  Tad Eggleston: Accomplish this so… absolutely, solidly, was Saga.
• 1:14:09
  Tad Eggleston: Where that first issue absolutely sucks you in, but then that first trade has just enough of a twist that it's now…
• 1:14:18
  Tad Eggleston: Slightly different from the first issue, and if you… if you…
• 1:14:23
  Tad Eggleston: Read the first trade first, rather than the first issue first. You're just as sucked into the second trade.
• 1:14:29
  Tad Eggleston: Like, so, I mean, what I'm saying is it's clear that creators are now…
• 1:14:36
  Tad Eggleston: And this is why it makes sense that, like, Brubaker and Phillips have gone much more towards making graphic novels.
• 1:14:44
  Tad Eggleston: Making ones that are in-universe, but not sequential.
• 1:14:48
  Tad Eggleston: Because I can't imagine how much harder it is… I mean, you already have a medium where you're thinking about
• 1:14:57
  Tad Eggleston: panel shifts and page turns. Now, like, and long, you've been thinking about the end of…
• 1:15:08
  Tad Eggleston: End of issue, cliffhanger or whatnot, hook to get to the next issue. But now you're also thinking about what's your hook to get to the next trade.
• 1:15:20
  Tad Eggleston: as you're writing it, you have to think of it not just as single issues… you have to think of it as single issues, but you also have to think of it as parts of a bigger whole.
• 1:15:30
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:15:31
  Tad Eggleston: You know, I mean, honestly, like, I think of…
• 1:15:40
  Tad Eggleston: you know, one of my favorite writers is Tom King, and
• 1:15:43
  Tad Eggleston: I know that since he's gotten…
• 1:15:48
  Tad Eggleston: Since he's established himself, he's gotten more to the point where he'll write
• 1:15:53
  Tad Eggleston: entire story arcs or entire miniseries together, rather than separately. And I know that…
• 1:16:01
  Tad Eggleston: It's during that era that a lot of people have kind of fallen off on him.
• 1:16:07
  Tad Eggleston: But I've kind of noticed a trend where the people who've fallen off on him tend to be the issue-to-issue people.
• 1:16:14
  Phil: Oh.
• 1:16:15
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:16:16
  Tad Eggleston: Because I honestly think that…
• 1:16:20
  Tad Eggleston: His bigger stories work… are even better now, but they're not always as good to read month to month.
• 1:16:27
  Phil: Yeah, that… and that was, quite frankly, kind of…
• 1:16:30
  Phil: Part of why I fell off.
• 1:16:32
  Tad Eggleston: So managing to create the book that you can do both with.
• 1:16:36
  Phil: Yes.
• 1:16:37
  Tad Eggleston: It's very challenging. It's challenging, and it seems like this is that book. I don't know if I'm gonna be jumping in month to month yet. I think… I think I'm gonna leave it as something that I do.
• 1:16:51
  Tad Eggleston: Trade to trade.
• 1:16:52
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:16:53
  Tad Eggleston: If only because I also think that there's enough going on…
• 1:17:00
  Tad Eggleston: That it might be hard for me to do month-to-month.
• 1:17:03
  Phil: I can do that.
• 1:17:03
  Tad Eggleston: Given how much other things I read. Like, I can't… I can't go monstrous month to month.
• 1:17:09
  Phil: I understand that. I couldn't either, and I tried reading it from the beginning, and it didn't grant me that one.
• 1:17:16
  Tad Eggleston: Too much to keep track of. I needed much bigger chunks.
• 1:17:19
  Phil: I… I would… I would actually… so, first of all, I… I just wanted to say, I know… I know I'm not disagreeing that Saga is… is absolutely a perfect example of Issue 1 and Trade 1 both being equally captivating for an entry point of the series. I just wanted to say that there's… there's surely other series
• 1:17:36
  Phil: Oh, I'm certain. Yeah. In fact, one I can think of from the series, I think the Power Fantasy does that pretty well.
• 1:17:44
  Phil: I hope that, you know.
• 1:17:47
  Tad Eggleston: I haven't really read it as a trade, so I can't speak to that.
• 1:17:51
  Phil: It is a little… it is tough. It's definitely… it's hard.
• 1:17:53
  Tad Eggleston: Because it requires having read it both ways for me to really…
• 1:17:57
  Phil: That's fair. That's a good point.
• 1:17:58
  Tad Eggleston: speak to that.
• 1:17:59
  Phil: That is a good point.
• 1:18:00
  Phil: But that, that said, to not, not completely shift this one, I do also think that my…
• 1:18:09
  Phil: the… the heavy drawing point, and that's… I didn't mean for this to turn into a pun, is the art.
• 1:18:16
  Tad Eggleston: Oh yeah, Azacita's art is outstanding.
• 1:18:19
  Phil: Yeah, it's so good. Here's… and this might be a minor blasphemy, but, back when I was first getting into comics, and he did a couple issues of Spider-Man with Mark Waid, I didn't… I didn't like his style then. You know, this was, like, I was, like, 18 or 19.
• 1:18:35
  Tad Eggleston: I think I know the ones you're talking about.
• 1:18:37
  Phil: Yeah, and now, I… every page, I am just… I am adoring it. It is… it is a lot of…
• 1:18:44
  Tad Eggleston: And what I'm gonna say is… I feel like… If you go back…
• 1:18:58
  Tad Eggleston: To some of those early books.
• 1:19:05
  Phil: So I definitely think my tastes have changed. That's… that's the big.
• 1:19:08
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, but, but,
• 1:19:15
  Tad Eggleston: I was trying to look and find, because I know that there's one that we hit on all the marvels that…
• 1:19:22
  Phil: Huh.
• 1:19:23
  Tad Eggleston: that… that we both… I think it was a… Amazing Spider-Man.
• 1:19:35
  Phil: Yeah, I know he did.
• 1:19:38
  Tad Eggleston: But, but, where I was going is, is I remember Tyler and I both commenting that…
• 1:19:46
  Tad Eggleston: There was a level in which he felt like… Paul Pope Light.
• 1:19:53
  Phil: Oh, interesting.
• 1:19:56
  Tad Eggleston: Because, I mean, seeing his work now, I definitely wouldn't…
• 1:19:59
  Phil: Think that.
• 1:20:01
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I wouldn't think that either, but I can still see the influence. I think he's become…
• 1:20:06
  Tad Eggleston: Paul Azacita. I think it's kind of like, you know, Neil Adams famously fired Bill Sienkiewicz as his…
• 1:20:16
  Tad Eggleston: assistant, because he's… he said, Bill, you need to go become Bill Sienkiewicz, rather than just being a better Neil Adams.
• 1:20:23
  Phil: Interesting.
• 1:20:26
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:20:29
  Phil: But yeah, I see the covers right now, the, issue 612, 613, those, those were the ones that… that I was thinking of. I think 612, but yeah, these, these handful of ones with the electro, and it was, like, a heat wave in the city, yeah. It's actually four issues, it looks like. Or no, that's the variant, so just…
• 1:20:47
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, 6, 12, 13… oh, yeah, 2…
• 1:20:53
  Tad Eggleston: And I guess, that, that's the problem. I'm on,
• 1:20:59
  Tad Eggleston: I'm on our account, rather than my account.
• 1:21:03
  Phil: So, so it's not automatically signed into Marvel Unlimited. Oh, I see, I see.
• 1:21:11
  Tad Eggleston: It's gonna pull up the actual interior art.
• 1:21:13
  Phil: Okay, yeah. I mean, and that's the thing, is that even now, his style, it's definitely… and it feels weird to say this, but it's, like, it's closer to what I recognize now as, like, a European comic style,
• 1:21:27
  Phil: he reminds me of David Aja in some ways, like, in his background work, but his character work is much different, much looser.
• 1:21:37
  Phil: But but yeah, this… this… it was the kind of thing where, you know, I… it's funny because he had a reputation
• 1:21:45
  Phil: Or I've kind of heard it over the years of people saying, oh, you know, his… the… as a seed is great, and again, like I said, I… I didn't… I didn't, I didn't know what it was until now. So that's now, you know, everything he's done before, it's like, alright, gotta go look at it again, because…
• 1:22:03
  Phil: It's, yeah, it's, it's totally.
• 1:22:05
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and he definitely has a European influence and a little manga, and like, this is why he…
• 1:22:14
  Tad Eggleston: I assume he has Paul Pope influence, just because there are things that make me really think of Paul Pope.
• 1:22:20
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:22:22
  Tad Eggleston: But… I also… can go all word association-y, so, you know, just the Paul could make me, bomb.
• 1:22:30
  Phil: Oh, that's amazing.
• 1:22:31
  Tad Eggleston: But one of the things that makes Paul Pope Paul Pope… is… The breadth of his influence.
• 1:22:38
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:22:39
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, you know…
• 1:22:41
  Phil: And I think it's clear that.
• 1:22:42
  Tad Eggleston: He loves those old comic strips. He…
• 1:22:46
  Tad Eggleston: he, loves Kirby, he loves…
• 1:22:51
  Tad Eggleston: Milo Minara and Hugo Pratt, he literally worked for Cadansha.
• 1:22:58
  Phil: Oh, wow.
• 1:22:59
  Tad Eggleston: you know, he was one of the first Americans to… to be… of Mangaka.
• 1:23:09
  Phil: Interesting.
• 1:23:10
  Tad Eggleston: you know, it never took, you know, he did a number of pilots and never wound up… because that's kind of how it works. We were talking about this the last time he was on, you know, you'll put together a pilot, and it'll go in…
• 1:23:22
  Tad Eggleston: an issue, but then they have, like, focus groups. I mean, they treat their manga the way we sometimes treat our movies, where, like, there are focus groups and surveys that go out to decide what state, because it all comes out as anthologies.
• 1:23:35
  Phil: Right, so Paul Pope worked for Kodansha, you said?
• 1:23:38
  Tad Eggleston: Yes.
• 1:23:38
  Phil: Okay, I thought you meant as a Cita for a second. I was like, Yeah, no.
• 1:23:42
  Tad Eggleston: I can see.
• 1:23:42
  Phil: I could see his, his, I could see him being a mangaka, possibly.
• 1:23:47
  Tad Eggleston: Well, but, I mean… You can really see…
• 1:23:51
  Tad Eggleston: Like, I mean, one of the reasons that came up is we're reading THB, which is his earliest work, and something that started before his time for Kadansha, and continued after his time for Kadansha, and you can see…
• 1:24:04
  Tad Eggleston: him learning… Japanese techniques.
• 1:24:09
  Phil: And whatnot, and how it…
• 1:24:11
  Tad Eggleston: Bled into the work that he was doing for himself.
• 1:24:16
  Phil: Alright.
• 1:24:17
  Tad Eggleston: So, so yeah, no, I've always liked Paul Azacita,
• 1:24:24
  Tad Eggleston: and now, even more, I kind of want to go back and look at the progression of Paul Azacita, because I think he's found…
• 1:24:34
  Tad Eggleston: That looser, more kinetic style that he was looking for.
• 1:24:40
  Tad Eggleston: The whole time, but wasn't quite… I would have to…
• 1:24:44
  Phil: Yeah, I'd have to read more of his stuff to see how close he was to it, but yeah, absolutely, his style looks like it's loosened up a good amount, and
• 1:24:55
  Phil: Gosh, I just… one of the things I loved about this was the constantly shifting point of view of the viewer.
• 1:25:03
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, I still need to go read Outcast, too, I completely forgot.
• 1:25:05
  Phil: Outcast.
• 1:25:07
  Tad Eggleston: I think I've read the first volume of that.
• 1:25:09
  Phil: Robert Kirkman's horror comic. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I had heard about that, but I haven't, I haven't read that one either.
• 1:25:17
  Phil: But yeah, and just the… So many times that,
• 1:25:22
  Phil: Gosh, I really loved the short segment with Autumn, even though she pretty much immediately disappeared.
• 1:25:29
  Phil: And just, I guess, I guess if there was one sort of note.
• 1:25:34
  Phil: that I hope, I hope, this grows and expands, and I'm wrong, is that I… I got a, you know, when…
• 1:25:42
  Phil: the parents are lost in the mirror, the magic mirror that they're just staring into. I had a very clear understanding of, oh, this is phones.
• 1:25:52
  Phil: This is, you know…
• 1:25:54
  Phil: This isn't, you know… yeah, the image of a dark room with gaunt people, like, staring at something the size of their head, and the light shining on them, yeah, I was like, it's so…
• 1:26:06
  Phil: I'm hoping that the metaphor continues to expand, and it's not, like, a simple allegory, because, I… I guess I feel like that it's interesting, because that's definitely a recurring theme for menders, of, like, the…
• 1:26:20
  Phil: The technology addiction and, like,
• 1:26:25
  Phil: being lost in stories, I'm thinking of Tokyo Ghost here, where, you know, the main character there was… Oh, Tokyo Ghost. Yeah, it was really great, it was really great. So, it's interesting that that theme has stuck to him, and I…
• 1:26:42
  Phil: I hope that there is more out of it than simply…
• 1:26:47
  Phil: oh no, magic mirror, phones, cool art, you know? Like, that's, that's kind of…
• 1:26:52
  Phil: if I do have a critique of Remender, it's that, I mean, I love his… when he's great, I love his… his stuff. There are times…
• 1:26:58
  Tad Eggleston: And that's the… that's the biggest reason that I hadn't read this yet, is when I love Remender, I love Remender, and when I don't, I sometimes actually don't even like him.
• 1:27:08
  Phil: Yeah, it's… it's one… I mean, I don't think I've read anything of his that I've… strongly disliked, but…
• 1:27:15
  Tad Eggleston: No, I haven't… I haven't read anything that I strongly dislike.
• 1:27:19
  Phil: Just stuff that.
• 1:27:20
  Tad Eggleston: I don't even think… I don't even think I've… I don't even think I've ever…
• 1:27:23
  Tad Eggleston: read anything of his that I… dislike.
• 1:27:28
  Phil: Right, right.
• 1:27:30
  Tad Eggleston: But I've definitely read stuff of his that I don't… like.
• 1:27:34
  Phil: Yeah, like, it's not… it doesn't… it's just not working for you for.
• 1:27:38
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 1:27:38
  Phil: And I guess it's also that…
• 1:27:41
  Phil: So here's the thing, he has such a large… And that's.
• 1:27:43
  Tad Eggleston: That's something that's worth bringing up briefly, just, like, why do we have to like or dislike? Why isn't it okay to just, like… I don't.
• 1:27:52
  Phil: I have feelings.
• 1:27:53
  Tad Eggleston: about this. Well… Everybody's like, well, why do you hate it? I'm like, I don't hate it, I just don't like it. Well, and here's the thing, is I feel like there's been… I don't dislike it.
• 1:28:02
  Phil: That's right, but that's the thing, is there's been a societal shift
• 1:28:06
  Phil: where not liking something is being equated with disliking something, you know? In the same way that people use mid as an insult, it's like, well, at least if you were bad, people could love you for being bad, but if you're mid, you're forgotten, you know? So…
• 1:28:23
  Tad Eggleston: Fine.
• 1:28:23
  Phil: it is dumb stuff. It's dumb stuff. And that's why it's, like, ultimately, you know, what comes around is that I do think that
• 1:28:31
  Phil: art, at the end of the day, should make you feel something, even if it's dislike. I, I honestly… there are ti- like, well, there are times when I can appreciate unlikability in art.
• 1:28:46
  Phil: And there are times where I rail against obvious attempts at likability, and so for that, I respect Remender in that I don't think he's a writer that is trying to be popular, or trying to be likable.
• 1:28:59
  Tad Eggleston: Whereas, I honestly think That… If I don't dislike it.
• 1:29:10
  Tad Eggleston: There's probably somebody that likes it.
• 1:29:12
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:29:13
  Phil: Absolutely.
• 1:29:14
  Tad Eggleston: There's actually probably somebody that likes it a lot. It just doesn't resonate with me.
• 1:29:18
  Phil: Exactly.
• 1:29:19
  Phil: And that's why I'll keep giving his work checks.
• 1:29:21
  Tad Eggleston: I mean…
• 1:29:22
  Phil: Found ones that are… that do resonate hard.
• 1:29:24
  Tad Eggleston: Right, I mean, this… this is, like, I have a… there are a lot of comic writers that I'm in the minority on.
• 1:29:31
  Tad Eggleston: You know, I don't love Scott Snyder. I appreciate him.
• 1:29:35
  Phil: Damn.
• 1:29:36
  Tad Eggleston: I get why people like him.
• 1:29:39
  Tad Eggleston: Some of his stories I love.
• 1:29:42
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:29:43
  Tad Eggleston: But he's, like, not an automatic read for me. He does something different from what I'm normally looking for.
• 1:29:50
  Phil: Right.
• 1:29:51
  Tad Eggleston: I feel the same way about Cullen Bunn. I feel the same way about,
• 1:29:57
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, why can't I remember his name right now? And I feel really bad, because he was.
• 1:30:01
  Phil: Because you don't feel strongly enough about his work. Oh, Donny Cates.
• 1:30:05
  Tad Eggleston: Donnie Cates.
• 1:30:06
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:30:07
  Tad Eggleston: you know.
• 1:30:08
  Phil: And all of them have done things that I do really, really like.
• 1:30:13
  Phil: Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 1:30:14
  Tad Eggleston: Most of the things that most people really like?
• 1:30:17
  Tad Eggleston: I'll read, and I'll be like.
• 1:30:19
  Tad Eggleston: I get why you like this.
• 1:30:21
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:30:21
  Phil: And so…
• 1:30:22
  Tad Eggleston: I don't dislike it.
• 1:30:24
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:30:25
  Tad Eggleston: But it's not really for me.
• 1:30:27
  Phil: Yeah, and honestly, for me, Snyder peaked with the New 52 Batman issue 5, the one that had the upside-down pages. It's gonna be hard to ever top that issue for me.
• 1:30:39
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, Barnstormers is amazing, though.
• 1:30:41
  Phil: I'm sure, I'm sure, and that's the thing, is I haven't read all of his stuff, because here's the other thing, is that.
• 1:30:46
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, honestly, I, like, I get that Scott loves playing in the superhero universe, but I almost, across the board, love his stuff that's not.
• 1:30:56
  Phil: Oh, yeah, I…
• 1:30:57
  Tad Eggleston: I'm…
• 1:30:58
  Phil: I don't… I don't.
• 1:30:59
  Tad Eggleston: I guess I like what he adds to the superhero universe.
• 1:31:04
  Tad Eggleston: but not necessarily in a way where I need to…
• 1:31:08
  Phil: Read it.
• 1:31:09
  Tad Eggleston: to read it, I just need to know what got added.
• 1:31:12
  Phil: That's funny. Oh, but gosh, I don't remember where.
• 1:31:17
  Tad Eggleston: And Scott, I say this with love, because you're amazing.
• 1:31:22
  Phil: Right, yeah. Witches is great. There's… he's done great comics, you know, there's been good stuff. Well, and he's just a genuinely good guy. Oh, yeah, he seems like…
• 1:31:31
  Tad Eggleston: He was on for our first baseball roundtable, and I really.
• 1:31:33
  Phil: Join me.
• 1:31:34
  Tad Eggleston: having it.
• 1:31:35
  Tad Eggleston: Love to have him back.
• 1:31:36
  Phil: Interesting, okay. So I want to make it abundantly clear, like.
• 1:31:40
  Tad Eggleston: This is my personal preference, not…
• 1:31:43
  Phil: Right.
• 1:31:44
  Tad Eggleston: But that's the other thing, like, I think… I think when you go… and I know we're losing the thread here, but…
• 1:31:53
  Phil: Well, I think I can bring it up.
• 1:31:54
  Tad Eggleston: time to wrap it up anyway. But… when…
• 1:32:00
  Tad Eggleston: When you have to like or dislike.
• 1:32:03
  Phil: Huh.
• 1:32:03
  Tad Eggleston: You're abdicating all responsibility for what you've brought to it.
• 1:32:10
  Phil: I don't know about that. I don't know about that, necessarily.
• 1:32:14
  Phil: Because I think that it's the…
• 1:32:17
  Phil: at the end of the day, good art makes you feel one way or another. To not feel as a result of art is a form of failure, you know? And I get that not everyone is gonna feel something at every piece of art, but…
• 1:32:29
  Tad Eggleston: But, but, but, like… again, Good art is supposed to make somebody.
• 1:32:37
  Phil: Yes, and that's where I was gonna try to go, is that just because it doesn't doesn't mean it.
• 1:32:42
  Tad Eggleston: So, so to only say that you either like or dislike things…
• 1:32:48
  Tad Eggleston: to not have things… I see you.
• 1:32:50
  Phil: I see what you're saying. If you reduce…
• 1:32:52
  Tad Eggleston: is abdicating your responsibility.
• 1:32:57
  Phil: Okay.
• 1:32:58
  Tad Eggleston: As the final collaborator.
• 1:33:00
  Phil: I… I'm picking up what you're putting down now. If you reduce your response to either like or dislike with no nuance, no variation, then you are abdicating your responsibility. Yes, okay.
• 1:33:09
  Tad Eggleston: Without any understa… I mean, cause… Totally, yeah. I mean, because how quickly does it go from…
• 1:33:16
  Tad Eggleston: Like and dislike to… If I like it, it's good. If I don't like it, it's bad.
• 1:33:22
  Phil: I was… we are on the same wavelength right now, because that is exactly what I was thinking as well, of there is a huge difference between what I like and what is good. There's all kinds of art out there that is great, that just doesn't work for me, or that I don't enjoy in the same way, and that's fine. Well, and because I don't enjoy something.
• 1:33:39
  Tad Eggleston: There are things that I might not be able to, with a straight face, call good.
• 1:33:43
  Phil: Right.
• 1:33:44
  Tad Eggleston: That other people can, and might even be able to convince me are good.
• 1:33:48
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:33:49
  Phil: I also love trash. There's stuff that's clearly… it's not quote-unquote good, but I love it because it tickles me in some way. It's Big Trouble in Little China. It's not a great movie, but I adore it.
• 1:34:00
  Phil: Right.
• 1:34:02
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:34:02
  Tad Eggleston: My dad, too. That's one of his favorite movies.
• 1:34:04
  Phil: Oh, fun, interesting, okay. Kurt Russell's entertaining. And this is… so, what I was gonna come back to is that, so with comics, and specifically comics writers, is that sometimes their output can be so great that it's…
• 1:34:18
  Phil: I'm the kind of person that when I consider myself a fan of a writer or an artist, I feel compelled to get everything they do.
• 1:34:27
  Phil: And when I don't like everything they do, sometimes that, like, I have a… that's my own problem.
• 1:34:34
  Tad Eggleston: That's weird.
• 1:34:34
  Phil: Yeah, I recognize that.
• 1:34:36
  Tad Eggleston: It gets weird for me. I totally recognize that. Because I'm a completist.
• 1:34:40
  Phil: And it's funny that there are authors that… But in comics in particular, you know, it could actually mean that.
• 1:34:46
  Tad Eggleston: That he's that much more of a collaborator.
• 1:34:49
  Phil: Exactly! I… I think he's… I think he's…
• 1:34:52
  Tad Eggleston: It could mean that he's working with his artists, and…
• 1:34:56
  Phil: Yes.
• 1:34:56
  Tad Eggleston: And… and…
• 1:34:58
  Phil: For that matter, he works.
• 1:35:00
  Tad Eggleston: Maybe I don't like this…
• 1:35:01
  Phil: artists.
• 1:35:02
  Tad Eggleston: And, and, and, and, and, like.
• 1:35:04
  Tad Eggleston: I say this knowing that there are times where, like, Remender and this artist
• 1:35:10
  Tad Eggleston: like, I like Remender, and I like this artist, and I don't like them together.
• 1:35:15
  Phil: Interesting, okay.
• 1:35:16
  Tad Eggleston: I'm not… I'm not gonna get into details, because I don't have it. Well, and I don't have it in my memory, so I'm not even gonna guarantee that it's happened, but what I'm saying is, what that could mean…
• 1:35:28
  Tad Eggleston: Is that was the most fun an artist ever had on a story.
• 1:35:32
  Phil: It could have been, yeah.
• 1:35:35
  Tad Eggleston: because Remender worked with him, or her, to let them do…
• 1:35:40
  Phil: What they wanted, yeah.
• 1:35:41
  Tad Eggleston: What they wanted to do… But it wound up not being my cup of tea.
• 1:35:47
  Phil: And that's the thing, is that the seasons, this book, it really feels like it's Rick and Paul doing what they want to do.
• 1:35:54
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, yeah.
• 1:35:55
  Phil: And that's…
• 1:35:56
  Tad Eggleston: And it feels like my cup of tea.
• 1:35:58
  Phil: Oh, yeah.
• 1:35:58
  Tad Eggleston: I'm down… adventure, mystery? Yeah.
• 1:36:02
  Phil: The fact that I read a little bit of the solicit text on Image.com, and they said, for fans of dark horror, or mind-body… and I'm like, oh, this is gonna go horror? That's exciting. Wow.
• 1:36:15
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah, no, I enjoyed it, I will be reading the next trade, that sort of thing.
• 1:36:20
  Phil: Oh, yeah.
• 1:36:22
  Phil: Big Same.
• 1:36:25
  Tad Eggleston: I think, again, not jumping on single issues has more to do
• 1:36:30
  Tad Eggleston: with, I feel like I want it in chunks right now, than it even does that, like, I don't like it enough for single… because I have two ways that I treat single issues, you know? Sometimes it's, I don't want to wait. Well, three ways. Because sometimes I just want to support the book.
• 1:36:47
  Phil: Of course.
• 1:36:48
  Tad Eggleston: But in terms of the actually reading them in single issues.
• 1:36:52
  Tad Eggleston: Right. Versus buying them. Sometimes it's a, I don't want to wait.
• 1:37:01
  Tad Eggleston: And sometimes it's a… I don't really want to wait, but I also know I'm gonna appreciate this better in chunks.
• 1:37:09
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:37:09
  Phil: there are some books that, when I was getting a whole lot more on a pull list, I would wait until I had, like, 2 or 3 issues at a time to read. And so then it's funny, it turned into one of those books… I wasn't trade-waiting, but I would wait to read it until I had more issues at a time.
• 1:37:23
  Phil: Oh yeah, it's interesting.
• 1:37:27
  Tad Eggleston: So, anyway, books we hope will be spectacular.
• 1:37:32
  Tad Eggleston: I'm pretty certain we're both gonna say Assorted Crisis Events Number 7. Yep.
• 1:37:39
  Tad Eggleston: Dennis Camp, Eric Zawadski,
• 1:37:43
  Tad Eggleston: This is way up there on Books of the Year. Oh, yeah. Not THE Book of the Year.
• 1:37:48
  Phil: The only argument we will have about it in our year-end lists is which lists it belongs on.
• 1:37:55
  Tad Eggleston: Free Planet number 7, I, I like…
• 1:37:58
  Tad Eggleston: Nearly as much, and, and… In similar but different reasons.
• 1:38:06
  Tad Eggleston: Aubrey Sitterson, Ilya… Curiosis.
• 1:38:11
  Tad Eggleston: Which I think is a different artist for this issue.
• 1:38:15
  Phil: They mentioned it was, like, a standalone jumping-off point.
• 1:38:18
  Tad Eggleston: Right, right. Because I think it's Jed Doherty that's done the other ones. Viterio Estoning at Image, and
• 1:38:26
  Tad Eggleston: Love me some Jesse Lonergan. So, Miss Truesdale and The Rise of Man number 1 from Mike Mignola and Jesse Lonergan at Dark Horse. I can confirm already that both Ordained No. 1 from Robert Vendini, Trevor Herstein, and…
• 1:38:44
  Tad Eggleston: Is Trevor Harrison the artist on that? I thought he was one of the writers.
• 1:38:48
  Tad Eggleston: Let me make certain I didn't forget somebody on ordained number 1.
• 1:38:53
  Phil: -Oh.
• 1:38:55
  Phil: Do-do-do-do… G-G- No.
• 1:39:00
  Tad Eggleston: No, it is. It's a DDN hair sign.
• 1:39:02
  Phil: R.
• 1:39:06
  Tad Eggleston: I can confirm is spectacular, I read it a while ago, and Santos Sisters number 10, I can also confirm is spectacular from Greg and Fake Mark Kopernov at Floating World.
• 1:39:19
  Tad Eggleston: So, Phil, what are you looking forward to?
• 1:39:23
  Phil: I am absolutely, 100%, with a bullet, looking forward to Assorted Crisis Events Number 7, and…
• 1:39:29
  Phil: Camp Zawitzki, Bel-Air, Sonnets Maiden, Bill Howe, don't know why I threw his first name in there too, but yes, this is… this is a book of the year. This is gonna be one where I'm probably gonna buy 2 or 3 copies of Trade… of Trade Volume 1 at Christmas time to start handing out to friends.
• 1:39:47
  Phil: Yeah, it's… it's… it's an all-timer, truly. And then, of course, at Dark Horse, we have Lone Wolf and Cub Deluxe Edition Volume 1 from Kazuo, Koiki and Goseki Kojima.
• 1:40:02
  Tad Eggleston: One of the greatest manga of all time, and a wonderful hardcover collection, yes.
• 1:40:08
  Phil: Yes.
• 1:40:08
  Tad Eggleston: Pre-ordered this a long time ago.
• 1:40:10
  Phil: That's one where, unfortunately, I didn't pre-order it, but I'm, you know, now approaching Christmas time, I, I…
• 1:40:18
  Tad Eggleston: Dropping hints to family?
• 1:40:19
  Phil: Well, family would need to listen to the sound if you're listening, Lone Wolf and Cub, but but at the same time, like, you know, the… a lot of times, I… I used to buy so many comics for myself that my family couldn't really get them for me as gifts, because I usually buy them, but now that I…
• 1:40:34
  Tad Eggleston: I kinda understand that. Yeah.
• 1:40:36
  Phil: Well, as thinking about gifts for you, I'm like, well, I can't possibly get Tad a comic, because it's, you know, it's… so I have to think outside that anyway.
• 1:40:45
  Phil: Yes, super excited, for that one. And then, what also looks great is the Complete Hate Volume 2 from Peter Bagg over at Fanta Graphics. I've read a little bit of his, humorous Marvel stuff, and it is always a delight, so I really do have to read unadulterated, fully original Peter Bagg without superheroes.
• 1:41:04
  Phil: But yeah, those, those are, those are what I'm looking forward to. Those are great books.
• 1:41:09
  Tad Eggleston: It's very, very 90s.
• 1:41:13
  Phil: I hate…
• 1:41:14
  Tad Eggleston: I hate that.
• 1:41:14
  Phil: Oh, yeah.
• 1:41:15
  Tad Eggleston: I don't know, very 90s.
• 1:41:18
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah, that's, episode 213 in the books, Nate, if you're still listening, 6-7,
• 1:41:31
  Tad Eggleston: We will see you after the next page.