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- 0:04Speaker 1: From the Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.
- 0:07Speaker 1: It's Thursday, April thirty, twenty twenty six. Intelligence expert Dennis
- 0:14Speaker 1: Richardson wanted spy agencies to reassess past persons of interest
- 0:18Speaker 1: after the Bondai massacre, but the interim report by the
- 0:22Speaker 1: Royal Commission will steer away from that idea. That's after
- 0:25Speaker 1: Richardson quit his role in the inquiry. Jim Chalmers is
- 0:31Speaker 1: indicating heatbacks further interest rate rises by the Reserve Bank.
- 0:35Speaker 1: That's after inflation jumped to a two year high. Chalmers
- 0:38Speaker 1: also says he'll keep spending under control in next month's
- 0:42Speaker 1: federal budget. Those stories alive right now at the Australian
- 0:46Speaker 1: dot com dot a U. The Americans are falling all
- 0:52Speaker 1: over King Charles and Queen Camilla, with politicians giving the
- 0:56Speaker 1: King a dozen standing ovations during his address to Charles
- 1:01Speaker 1: is on a charm offensive, while Donald Trump was with
- 1:04Speaker 1: British Prime Minister Kirs Starmer and Charles's son Prince Harry.
- 1:09Speaker 1: So is it working? Our Royal expert Richard Ferguson is
- 1:12Speaker 1: here in just a.
- 1:13Speaker 2: Moment, President Trump and First Lady Malania Trump hosting a
- 1:22Speaker 2: ceremonial welcome for King Charles and Queen Camilla.
- 1:25Speaker 1: Your Majesty's welcome to the beautiful White House.
- 1:30Speaker 2: The bonds between the US and UK are unbreakable.
- 1:33Speaker 3: With the message from King Charles the Third speaking to
- 1:36Speaker 3: a joint session of Congress, I pray with all my
- 1:39Speaker 3: heart that Dara Lance would continue to defend our shared
- 1:44Speaker 3: values and that we ignore the clarion calls to become
- 1:48Speaker 3: ever more inward looking.
- 1:50Speaker 1: King Charles and Queen Camilla arriving at the White House
- 1:53Speaker 1: for a lavish, black tie state dinner.
- 1:56Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it. They liked him more than they've
- 2:00Speaker 3: ever liked any Republican or Democrat.
- 2:02Speaker 1: Actually, Richard Ferguson is the Australian's Canber Bureau chief, and
- 2:08Speaker 1: he's also in house royal expert. Richard, I've got you
- 2:10Speaker 1: on because the King is charming his way through the
- 2:13Speaker 1: United States. My favorite ever portrayal, though, of a British
- 2:17Speaker 1: monarch in American culture, is King George the Third in
- 2:20Speaker 1: the musical Hamilton by Lynn Manuel Miranda, first played on
- 2:24Speaker 1: Broadway by Jonathan Groff, as a kind of psychotically evil
- 2:27Speaker 1: but also quite charming and lovable monarch on the edge
- 2:30Speaker 1: of madness.
- 2:31Speaker 4: And when push comes to shove, I will send a
- 2:37Speaker 4: fully armed battalion. You remind you of my love?
- 2:43Speaker 1: Is that still how Americans perceive the British royalty?
- 2:46Speaker 4: Well, nor if anything about? Like the French, the Americans
- 2:50Speaker 4: seem more in love with the British monarchy than the
- 2:52Speaker 4: British do. I think they slately regret the Revolution, and
- 2:56Speaker 4: they regret the way that the king or the queen
- 3:01Speaker 4: represents the glory and the government represents power, and instead
- 3:06Speaker 4: they've mixed it into one and a president. And I think,
- 3:08Speaker 4: especially with President Trump, the some Americans who wish they'd
- 3:12Speaker 4: kind of separated. I've always wondered if Trump would make
- 3:14Speaker 4: a great king, but he wouldn't make much of a
- 3:17Speaker 4: prime minister.
- 3:18Speaker 1: I think it would make an absolutely fabulous king. He'd
- 3:20Speaker 1: certainly bring the pomp and ceremony, which seems to be
- 3:23Speaker 1: at least part of the point of the British monarchy. Now,
- 3:25Speaker 1: what's the point of this visit by King Charles and
- 3:28Speaker 1: Camilla to the United States.
- 3:30Speaker 4: Well, originally it was supposed to be a celebration of
- 3:33Speaker 4: the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the end of
- 3:36Speaker 4: the War of Independence and essentially the breaking of the
- 3:40Speaker 4: British monarchy from the American people. But what it has
- 3:43Speaker 4: now become is essentially a diplomatic effort. Relations between care Starmer,
- 3:47Speaker 4: the British Prime Minister, and mister Trump have really collapsed,
- 3:52Speaker 4: especially over Ker Starmer's refusal to be involved in the
- 3:56Speaker 4: Iran War. It's now got to a point where the Americans,
- 4:01Speaker 4: in a memo at the Pentagon that was leaked, may
- 4:05Speaker 4: even consider supporting the Argentinians over the claims of the
- 4:09Speaker 4: Falklands islands. And there's a lot of consternation about British
- 4:13Speaker 4: plans to hand over the Chegos Islands, where there's an
- 4:16Speaker 4: important us UK base. So, if anything, King Charles has
- 4:23Speaker 4: become the chief diplomat for the British government, which is
- 4:27Speaker 4: a role that he's very good at playing. But there's
- 4:30Speaker 4: a lot of questions in Britain about whether the King
- 4:32Speaker 4: should have gone at all. I mean, you've had President
- 4:35Speaker 4: Trump lash out at Britain several times, but he's also
- 4:40Speaker 4: completely denigrated the memory of British soldiers who died in
- 4:44Speaker 4: Iraq and Afghanistan, where he suggested they weren't really on
- 4:47Speaker 4: the front lines. But hundreds of British soldiers died in
- 4:50Speaker 4: Afghanistan in Iraq fighting alongside the Americans. So most people
- 4:56Speaker 4: thought King Charles shouldn't have given him the dignity of
- 4:59Speaker 4: this visit. But the King and quin Camala have gone
- 5:03Speaker 4: and they're making the most of it.
- 5:05Speaker 1: King Charles traded jokes with Donald Trump at a state
- 5:08Speaker 1: dinner at the White House.
- 5:10Speaker 3: Indeed, you recently commented, mister President, that if it were
- 5:13Speaker 3: not for the United States, European countries would be speaking German.
- 5:18Speaker 3: Dare I say that if it wasn't for us, you'd
- 5:20Speaker 3: be speaking French.
- 5:28Speaker 1: It's unlikely Charles is going to be upstaged quite as
- 5:31Speaker 1: much as he was in nineteen eighty five when Princess
- 5:33Speaker 1: Diana danced at the Reagan White House with John Travolta.
- 5:37Speaker 1: She was at the peak of her powers. Is this
- 5:39Speaker 1: kind of glorious muse? He looked a bit helpless standing alongside.
- 5:44Speaker 1: He's really stepped into his own character. He seems a
- 5:47Speaker 1: lot happier now. Certainly, do you get the sense that
- 5:50Speaker 1: this is a bit of a reclamation for him of
- 5:52Speaker 1: the United States, for himself.
- 5:54Speaker 4: There's an old adage that Essentially, your best kind of
- 5:58Speaker 4: monarchs are very very young, very very old. And I
- 6:02Speaker 4: think he's very good at playing a very very old monarch.
- 6:05Speaker 4: He's very good at being a grandpa. We all know
- 6:07Speaker 4: that he's not the best dad in the world, but
- 6:09Speaker 4: he's very good at playing a grandpa. And I think
- 6:13Speaker 4: he's enjoying that. I think he enjoys the fact that
- 6:16Speaker 4: Trump treats him like his mother.
- 6:18Speaker 3: I cannot help but think of my late mother, Queen Elizabeth,
- 6:21Speaker 3: who in nineteen ninety one was also afforded this signal
- 6:27Speaker 3: honor and similarly spoke under the watchful eye of the
- 6:31Speaker 3: Statue of Freedom above us.
- 6:34Speaker 4: And I think, Look, I think the trip will be
- 6:37Speaker 4: kind of success on the surface. Whether it will do
- 6:40Speaker 4: anything to repair the relationship between the Trump administration and
- 6:43Speaker 4: the Starmer government, I think is a whole other question.
- 6:47Speaker 1: Charles has this vision of the slimed down monarchy a
- 6:49Speaker 1: much more kind of practical thing than perhaps previous monarchs
- 6:53Speaker 1: might have thought of it. As you know, it's less
- 6:55Speaker 1: of a burden on the taxpayer and more of a
- 6:58Speaker 1: I suppose, an arm of the mentor an arm of
- 7:01Speaker 1: philanthropic thought. In Britain. Is this in keeping with the
- 7:05Speaker 1: way Charles wants the monarchy to bay. Is this the
- 7:08Speaker 1: use that he wants the British government to put him to.
- 7:11Speaker 4: It's been quite a hard transition for Charles because we
- 7:13Speaker 4: all know that he's a man with a lot of
- 7:15Speaker 4: opinions from everything from architecture to climate change, to arts
- 7:19Speaker 4: to social policy, and he's had to really keep his
- 7:25Speaker 4: mouth shut because you can't do that as the king.
- 7:27Speaker 4: I mean, you can sort of do it as Prince
- 7:28Speaker 4: of Wales, but even then, in this modern era, you
- 7:31Speaker 4: get a lot of flak for it, as he has,
- 7:33Speaker 4: so I think he likes playing the role. It has
- 7:36Speaker 4: been I think very hard for him with his cancer treatment,
- 7:40Speaker 4: the fact that he has not been as active as
- 7:42Speaker 4: he probably wants to be. But look, I think he
- 7:45Speaker 4: will take this trip with Relish. I definitely think you
- 7:48Speaker 4: can see from the way he's conducted himself that him
- 7:50Speaker 4: and Queen Camilla had absolutely no plans of not going
- 7:53Speaker 4: ahead with it, and especially after the attempted assassination of
- 7:58Speaker 4: President Trump and Vice President Aunts at the White House
- 8:01Speaker 4: correspondence and are the fact that they are pushing ahead
- 8:04Speaker 4: with this sure as a bit of bravery on the
- 8:06Speaker 4: King and Queen's.
- 8:07Speaker 1: Part coming up. Meanwhile, back in London, the British Prime
- 8:15Speaker 1: Minister is in serious trouble. The Declaration of Independence in
- 8:30Speaker 1: seventeen seventy six was a fairly major schism between the
- 8:33Speaker 1: British royal family and the people of America, and it
- 8:36Speaker 1: took well over a century for a British reigning monarch
- 8:39Speaker 1: to set foot on American soil again. That was King
- 8:41Speaker 1: George the sixth and his wife, the future Queen Mother,
- 8:44Speaker 1: Queen Elizabeth, King Charles's grandparents, who went back in nineteen
- 8:48Speaker 1: thirty nine really to try and convince Americans that they
- 8:51Speaker 1: needed to join the looming war between civilization and Adolf Hitler.
- 8:56Speaker 1: It didn't really work immediately. It took a very long
- 8:59Speaker 1: time for American into the war. In terms of political strategy,
- 9:03Speaker 1: what would a good result look like from this visit?
- 9:06Speaker 1: Is it going to be Donald Trump laying off case
- 9:08Speaker 1: elmoryb I.
- 9:09Speaker 4: Think the best result is that Donald Trump lays off
- 9:12Speaker 4: care starmer. But I think the British Labor Party is
- 9:16Speaker 4: ready to start laying into secure themselves. So by the
- 9:20Speaker 4: end of the week we will have British local elections,
- 9:23Speaker 4: including elections in the Scottish Parliament and the Welsh Parliament.
- 9:27Speaker 4: The Labor Party is expected to do very badly in Scotland.
- 9:31Speaker 4: They are expected to be absolutely hammered in Wales where
- 9:35Speaker 4: Labor has dominated Wales for decades and decades and decades.
- 9:41Speaker 4: The Reform Party, led by Nigel Faras, who's obviously an
- 9:45Speaker 4: ally a long term ally of Donald Trump and the
- 9:47Speaker 4: MAGA movement, is expected to do very well, especially in
- 9:51Speaker 4: English councils and in Wales. So after those are done,
- 9:57Speaker 4: all the damage that has been done to care Starmer,
- 9:59Speaker 4: from his mishandling of economic policy, from his mishandling of Gaza,
- 10:05Speaker 4: from his absolutely insane appointment of Peter Mandelson, the scandal
- 10:10Speaker 4: ridden new labor guru as the ambassador to Washington, who
- 10:14Speaker 4: turned out to be best friends with Jeffrey Epstein, the
- 10:17Speaker 4: notorious late pedophile. I think all of this is about
- 10:21Speaker 4: to come to roost for Keir Starmer. It's also looking
- 10:24Speaker 4: as if his main rival in the party, Angela Rayner,
- 10:27Speaker 4: who had at tax scandal, it looks like she's set
- 10:30Speaker 4: to have her tax affairs cleared, So I don't think
- 10:34Speaker 4: it's that long before ker Starmer's out of the way
- 10:36Speaker 4: and Donald Trump will have somebody else to attack on
- 10:38Speaker 4: true social.
- 10:43Speaker 1: On Tuesday in London, impe's voted against calls for an
- 10:46Speaker 1: inquiry into the appointment of Sapeda. Mandelson as the UK's
- 10:49Speaker 1: ambassador to Washington DC. Mendelssohn failed the Foreign Office's national
- 10:54Speaker 1: security checks, but he was given the plumb diplomatic role anyway,
- 10:58Speaker 1: allegedly at Stama's and it's since been revealed he had
- 11:02Speaker 1: a long association with the convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. Mandelsson,
- 11:07Speaker 1: who denies any wrongdoing, is now the subject of an
- 11:10Speaker 1: investigation by UK police. They allege he shared sensitive financial
- 11:14Speaker 1: information with Epstein. Starmer's job is safe for now, but
- 11:20Speaker 1: about seventy Labour MPs either back the Tory motion for
- 11:24Speaker 1: an inquiry or abstained altogether. If Starmer does fall, how
- 11:32Speaker 1: much will the Mandelssohn affair and the taint of Jeffrey
- 11:35Speaker 1: Epstein be responsible.
- 11:37Speaker 4: I definitely think that Mandelsson was the end and the
- 11:41Speaker 4: way that party get was the end for Boris Johnson.
- 11:45Speaker 4: But I think that he's made so many miss steps
- 11:49Speaker 4: on policy, on scandal, on the fact that he just
- 11:53Speaker 4: cannot communicate with the British people but also the fact,
- 11:57Speaker 4: Claire that Kirstarmer seems allergic to take responsibility. You know,
- 12:02Speaker 4: it's become a meme essentially of him saying, you know,
- 12:05Speaker 4: narbody told me our worst prime minister, and I am
- 12:08Speaker 4: furious to hear that this is the House told me
- 12:11Speaker 4: at all. There was a British commentator recently who said
- 12:14Speaker 4: he's the embodiment of computer. Says no, and this is
- 12:18Speaker 4: why people dislike him. He projects no hope, no vision,
- 12:22Speaker 4: and after years of very very difficult Tory government and
- 12:25Speaker 4: a lot of crisis in Britain from Brexit to Ukraine,
- 12:28Speaker 4: to Iran to COVID obviously and the GFC which was
- 12:32Speaker 4: very very bad for Britain in a way that I
- 12:34Speaker 4: think Australians would struggle to understand because we whether the
- 12:37Speaker 4: GFC so well. They have been through so many crises.
- 12:39Speaker 4: They've had many prime ministers in some ways much worse
- 12:42Speaker 4: prime ministers. Thank Heir Starmer, but I think he's just
- 12:46Speaker 4: an embodiment of where Britain has got itself to and
- 12:50Speaker 4: they're not happy when they see what's reflected in the mirror.
- 12:56Speaker 1: Focusing.
- 12:57Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Thanks Claire.
- 13:03Speaker 1: Richard Ferguson is the Australian's Canbra bureau chief. You can
- 13:06Speaker 1: read all the letters from Charles and Camilla's visit to
- 13:09Speaker 1: the US right now at the Australian dot com dot
- 13:12Speaker 1: a u