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Listener Survey Results · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark, a Hallmark review podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Megan and I'm a longtime Hallmark fan. I'm Wendy. I'm
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  Speaker 1: a former homwerk cater. Today we have something a little
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  Speaker 1: bit different. Recently, we asked for your help for your
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  Speaker 1: feedback in our first ever listener survey, and considering we
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  Speaker 1: have been doing this podcast for over five years, it
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  Speaker 1: was perhaps a little bit overdue, but y'all showed up
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  Speaker 1: in a really impressive way. Every time we would get it,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, Oh my gosh, it's
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  Speaker 1: very exciting to say the reviews roll in. Yeah, exciting
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  Speaker 1: is not how we're described you a little bit nervous.
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  Speaker 1: It did make me nervous, but there was a lot
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  Speaker 1: of great constructive feedback. Yes, that I think if you
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  Speaker 1: are a regular listener you have already seen implemented. There
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  Speaker 1: was also some other things that made me hurt my
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  Speaker 1: feelings a little bit. Yes, I will say the vast
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  Speaker 1: majority of people were very complimentary, had very nice things
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  Speaker 1: to say. Overall, it was very positive, but a lot
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  Speaker 1: of you did have constructive ideas and look, I took
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  Speaker 1: everything personally. It's just in my nature. But at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the day. Some of these things we are
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  Speaker 1: able to look at and say, like that's actually a
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  Speaker 1: third point, like what can we do about that? And
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  Speaker 1: some of it won't be changing. Yeah, don't worry. We're
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  Speaker 1: not going to put anybody on blast here for like, no,
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  Speaker 1: it was all anonymous. It was all anonymous. Couldn't put
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  Speaker 1: you on blast if I tried. Have you seen recently,
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  Speaker 1: like people on Instagram and TikTok who have like big
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  Speaker 1: social platforms who get nasty dms, like they'll screenshot it
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  Speaker 1: now and like put it out and be like this
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  Speaker 1: with the person who sent it. Yes, oh yes, don't worry, guys,
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  Speaker 1: we're not doing play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I
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  Speaker 1: guess yeah, I guess so. Right. So in this episode,
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  Speaker 1: rather than reading all the lovely comments you left about
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  Speaker 1: how much you like, how are your favorite Hallmark podcasts,
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  Speaker 1: how you like sitting and chatting at the kitchen table
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  Speaker 1: with you ladies, which we loved all of that, and
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  Speaker 1: I took all that to heart. I might honestly print
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  Speaker 1: a couple of those up and put it in our
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  Speaker 1: new office. I was, I was like, is she get
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  Speaker 1: a needle point something not needle point it, but like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe make a nice quote in a frame. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: for our new office space. Yeah, it's the equivalent of
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  Speaker 1: like the motivational posters hang in there, look employee of
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  Speaker 1: the month man. Right, When you work for yourself, you
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  Speaker 1: got to make your own motivation. Agree, But we are
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  Speaker 1: going to address some of the some of the criticism,
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  Speaker 1: some of the feedback that you had because we have thoughts.
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  Speaker 1: We have thoughts. I mean, I think it's fair to
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  Speaker 1: say we hear what a lot of you are saying.
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  Speaker 1: There are some things we might change, and there are
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  Speaker 1: some things we're just not going to, Like we can't
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  Speaker 1: have those changes or we just simply don't want to. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we want to make
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  Speaker 1: a product that you guys are interested in. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: still but stay true to who we aw and so
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  Speaker 1: the changes that we can make that make it a
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  Speaker 1: more pleasant listening experience and having that outside feedback is helpful.
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  Speaker 1: So let's start with I thought you were gonna say,
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  Speaker 1: take a break, y'a all ready for some ads. Don't worry,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about it. The first thing a lot
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  Speaker 1: of you had talked about was not a lot Actually
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  Speaker 1: about fifteen percent of people mentioned the News and Notes segment.
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  Speaker 1: Not everybody loves it. Some people do love it, some
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  Speaker 1: people are like, I love learning more about it. Not
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  Speaker 1: everybody loves it. This is what's funny because if you
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  Speaker 1: have been a long time listener, when we first started
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  Speaker 1: this podcast, we didn't do news and notes like that.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't we didn't get any information. We would pull
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  Speaker 1: like this is a fun fact, and we called it
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  Speaker 1: news and Notes. But it was nothing like here's the writer,
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  Speaker 1: here's the director, here's the actors, here's what the benn.
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  Speaker 1: We'd be like, Oh, Tyler Hines said blah blah blah
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  Speaker 1: about working on this movie exactly. But five years ago
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  Speaker 1: we got DM I remember who it was from, who said,
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  Speaker 1: you guys are not doing enough right And then that's
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  Speaker 1: where News and Notes was born. We said, okay, challenge accepted. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I think it has gotten longer and longer.
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  Speaker 1: That segment has gotten longer and longer over time. It's
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  Speaker 1: hard to know who where do we draw the line at, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: your two big stars in the movie and then everybody
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  Speaker 1: else is not important. No, I don't I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to do that. We had somebody a producer on a series,
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  Speaker 1: send us a DM and say thank you so much
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  Speaker 1: for including these other people who don't get mentioned, right,
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  Speaker 1: and so that makes me feel good when we're covering
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  Speaker 1: not everybody, but a majority of the people who have
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  Speaker 1: worked worked on a movie or a series. But you,
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  Speaker 1: y'all don't like that. Not everybody loves it, so we
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  Speaker 1: did not. You may have noticed this change recently, we didn't.
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  Speaker 1: News and notes. It still exists, but we're not running
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  Speaker 1: down every actor. We're shortening it and adding additional information
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  Speaker 1: to the website. So we're still running down the key points,
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  Speaker 1: giving you a bit of a frame of reference, but
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  Speaker 1: there's more information in the show notes at girlscone Hallmark
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  Speaker 1: dot com for you to peruse on your own time,
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  Speaker 1: should you be so interested. So we compromised a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: just a couple little bits of feedback. One person said, tonally,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a weird way to start a recap.
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  Speaker 1: Then you go to a commercial, then the recap begins.
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  Speaker 1: It's a little odd. Another person said, I find the
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  Speaker 1: list of acting and directing credits far too long and boring.
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  Speaker 1: I'trather just get straight to the first impressions so heard. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'd be curious if you've listened in the last we've
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  Speaker 1: been doing a month about a month now, If you
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  Speaker 1: are enjoying the shorter segment of news and notes, I
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  Speaker 1: gotta tell you, it hurts a little bit for me. I
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  Speaker 1: hear you. I know that we were so proud of it,
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  Speaker 1: the work that we did there. Yeah, and truly, I
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  Speaker 1: love seeing the crossover, the connections of like, who's work
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  Speaker 1: together before, who's done what before? Oh, I'm interested in
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  Speaker 1: maybe watching that now because I saw that they worked
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  Speaker 1: in this. I like that. But I'm a geek, so well,
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  Speaker 1: me too. I like information like that. And what's interesting
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  Speaker 1: is we got some people who were like, nobody else
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  Speaker 1: does this. I love that you do it, and people
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  Speaker 1: who are like nobody else does this? Why are you
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  Speaker 1: doing it? Yeah? Exactly, so exactly. Are you ready for
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  Speaker 1: the next hot topic? I am. It's ads. It's money
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  Speaker 1: all Nobody wants to talk about money, but everyone wants
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  Speaker 1: to make money. Nobody's mad when you walk into the
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  Speaker 1: gap and they expect to pay for your jeans. We
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  Speaker 1: would like to make money. We like to get paid
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  Speaker 1: for the things that we do. This podcast is completely
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  Speaker 1: free to you, and I know ads are annoying, I
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  Speaker 1: get it. I don't. I'm post commercial. I don't watch
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  Speaker 1: television with commercials, but I do tap tap tap through
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  Speaker 1: many ads on the podcast I listen to, and that
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  Speaker 1: is unfortunately going to be your fate too. How Ever,
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  Speaker 1: we heard you on the volume. Hopefully you have noticed
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  Speaker 1: a difference. Hopefully Howie Mandel is not screaming at you.
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  Speaker 1: We did two big things when we reach out to
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  Speaker 1: our host. We asked for the level at which the
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  Speaker 1: ads are normalized, and we're doing the same with our
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  Speaker 1: podcast audio. So there should not be a big change
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  Speaker 1: in the more or recent episodes. If you've noticed that, great,
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  Speaker 1: If you haven't. If there's still a big change, let
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  Speaker 1: us know specifically what episode I'd be curious. I am
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  Speaker 1: not an audio engineer. I will admit that everything I
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  Speaker 1: know I learned from the internet. Google is my friend.
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  Speaker 1: But we are an or do we make enough money
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  Speaker 1: to pay an audio engineer? Actually, and we are an
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  Speaker 1: independently produced podcast. We're doing it all on our own.
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  Speaker 1: I've learned how to edit and do all of this
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  Speaker 1: on my own from the Internet, from trial and error,
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  Speaker 1: and so, which is how the vast But nobody's going
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  Speaker 1: to college for podcast production at least nobody my age.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah maybe now maybe now yea audio production sure, but
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  Speaker 1: we have made a move to address that. We've also
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  Speaker 1: moved the ad placement later in the episode, so it's
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  Speaker 1: not right after first impression. Yeah. Sometimes it's hard for
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  Speaker 1: us to remember because we've done it so many years
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  Speaker 1: where actually we haven't done it so many we how
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  Speaker 1: long have we been running ads? Two years? A year
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  Speaker 1: and a half. Okay, so you know, you get familiar
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  Speaker 1: with the format. When we're recording this. It feels like
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  Speaker 1: natural to break in certain spots. So if you ever
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  Speaker 1: notice that, we'll be like, oh, let's take a break,
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  Speaker 1: or you know, it's because we're just not in rhythm yet. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: The other thing we did is a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: talked about the gambling ads. I did look at the
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  Speaker 1: back end. Gambling ads accounted for less than two percent
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  Speaker 1: of all ads, but a lot of people said they
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  Speaker 1: were getting a ton of them, and I had noticed
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  Speaker 1: them too. We turned off the gambling ads. There are
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  Speaker 1: some sensitive ad categories that we can automatically turn off.
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  Speaker 1: We reach out to our host, had them turn off
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  Speaker 1: the gambling ads. We're still getting them. That's an advertiser issue.
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  Speaker 1: They're categorizing them as something else, perhaps entertainment or something else.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they're categorizing it as sports and not gambling specifically.
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  Speaker 1: So that's kind of a case by case. But we're
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  Speaker 1: trying to make it a more pleasant listening experience, So
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  Speaker 1: we want to monetize, we want to do it in
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  Speaker 1: a way that's not miserable for the listener exactly. And
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  Speaker 1: we do put the vast majority of our ads at
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  Speaker 1: the end of our episode. Yes, can I read what
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  Speaker 1: a listener said? And sure, sometimes an episode shows at
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  Speaker 1: twenty five minutes, but the last six to eight minutes
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  Speaker 1: are all ads. The actual content feels shorter than it seems.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's two things here. Most of our episodes,
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  Speaker 1: if it's a regular, typical Hallmark movie review, it's sometimes
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  Speaker 1: somewhere lands between twenty to thirty minutes. Twenty to thirty minutes,
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  Speaker 1: that's how long it takes us. We never generally shoot
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  Speaker 1: for that time. It just is organically what happens. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: the bulk of our ads do tack on at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the episode. Guys, you don't have to listen
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  Speaker 1: to those ads. Turn the episode off then if you
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  Speaker 1: want to tap through them. So the next episode runs great,
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  Speaker 1: do that too, but we find that to be the
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  Speaker 1: least intrusive way to run ads on our show that
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  Speaker 1: aren't heavy upfront or heavy in the middle. All good points. Also,
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  Speaker 1: some of you mentioned like I would prefer host red ads.
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  Speaker 1: We would to know we would too. Those are really
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  Speaker 1: hard to get. That's a whole separate animal. The dynamic
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  Speaker 1: ad insertion, which is what we have. We drop ad
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  Speaker 1: slots and those are filled on the back end of
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  Speaker 1: our host host red ads. It's a whole different production animal.
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  Speaker 1: Once again, we are a independently produced podcast. So if
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  Speaker 1: you know someone wants to take on pro bono pitching
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  Speaker 1: work for us, Hello at girls, go on Hollmark dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Hit us up. Yeah, love that I need. I need
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  Speaker 1: an extra twelve hours in my day. Not enough time.
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  Speaker 1: There were two similar segments when she will think thought
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  Speaker 1: we were a little too soft, too soft in our ratings,
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  Speaker 1: in our ratings and in our wishes segments. Sometimes oh okay,
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  Speaker 1: so some Here are some quotes. I wish the final
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  Speaker 1: movie scores were a little more honest. The Ali Sweeney
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  Speaker 1: Ranch movie was just bad, but you gave it a
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  Speaker 1: three that didn't match your feedback. It's okay to give
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  Speaker 1: ones and twos. Occasionally I get concerned with the finding
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  Speaker 1: mister Christmas Episodes, that you're too afraid of hurting people's
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  Speaker 1: feelings to give critique this one. It's a good podcast
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  Speaker 1: that could be great with a little more courage. And finally,
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  Speaker 1: if everything is always so positive, it seems boring. Please
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  Speaker 1: keep pointing out things that you don't like. Where do
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  Speaker 1: you want to start? I think this is a hard
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  Speaker 1: line to walk. I want to critique a performance and
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  Speaker 1: not an actor. I want to acknowledge. When Benjamin Yers
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  Speaker 1: made a video for us about voting for his movie
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  Speaker 1: in the Countdown to Christmas Bracket, he was like, no
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  Speaker 1: one sets out to make a bad movie. We all
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  Speaker 1: show up to work every day and want to make
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  Speaker 1: a great movie. I think about no one sets out
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  Speaker 1: to make a bad movie constantly, because nobody shows up
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  Speaker 1: to work thinking I'm gonna make this two star movie, right,
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  Speaker 1: that might earn back what it cost to make it.
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  Speaker 1: Uh huh. So I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings,
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  Speaker 1: But like you said, there's no value in a positive
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  Speaker 1: review if we don't always have the opposite feeling, and
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  Speaker 1: I think we do have that take sometimes. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I have that take often. I mean, we have
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  Speaker 1: given a one star rating to movie. Absolutely, We've given
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  Speaker 1: lots of two star ratings to movies. I agree with you,
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  Speaker 1: it's a fine line. I think when we first started out,
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  Speaker 1: it was easy for me Wendy to kind of shit
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  Speaker 1: on these movies, and we had gotten some feedback from
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  Speaker 1: not people in the industry, but like listeners who were like,
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  Speaker 1: you're not taking into account, like these are people's livelihoods
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  Speaker 1: these and I that has stuck with me for a
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  Speaker 1: really long time, like, I don't want to be this person.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be that stereotypical reviewer who thinks
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  Speaker 1: that everything is bad. That's not a fun place to
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  Speaker 1: operate from. That's why I'm a former Homewark hater. Like
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  Speaker 1: I did think these movies were bad, but over the
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  Speaker 1: years have really come to appreciate the work that goes
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  Speaker 1: into it, and there are a lot of good things
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  Speaker 1: about these movies, and we rate them as their own genre.
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  Speaker 1: Movies are their own genre of movies. We're not comparing
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  Speaker 1: them to theatrical releases. They're not operating on the same scale.
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  Speaker 1: And you guys, I'm not Roger Eber either like I
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  Speaker 1: didn't I know Jack Shi t about out what makes
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  Speaker 1: a good movie other than just being a entertainment consumer.
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  Speaker 1: One comment came in and said they've gotten too popular
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  Speaker 1: and because we're on the radar of Hallmark now we've
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  Speaker 1: pulled back our critiques. I think that's untrue. That has
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  Speaker 1: not happened. I'm aware of the real people behind these projects,
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes I do temper my critique in that regard.
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  Speaker 1: I will admit, because I am a human. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: one hundred percent objective all the time. And it is
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  Speaker 1: something that I've been trying to think about. Is my
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  Speaker 1: critique genuine because I never set out to give a
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  Speaker 1: disingenuous critique. That's not my point, like, oh, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to pad this, but sometimes it happens it we're people,
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  Speaker 1: But it isn't because I don't want Hallmark to be
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  Speaker 1: mad at me. No, because the reality is, while we
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: have gotten to know people at Hallmark, while we have
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  Speaker 1: access to screeners and sometimes access to talent because of
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: the people at Hallmark, we've gotten some cool opportunities. Because
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  Speaker 1: of Hallmark. The podcast exists with or without their participation,
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  Speaker 1: and we're certainly not financially beholden to them. Yeah. No
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  Speaker 1: one at Hallmark is telling us like, oh, no, you
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  Speaker 1: need to be nicer and never once, nor do Meghan
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  Speaker 1: and I operate in that way, like, oh, we want
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  Speaker 1: Hallmark to see us, so we're going to play nice
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  Speaker 1: and be nicer and write these movies. That's not how
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  Speaker 1: we operate either. No, but we're also not the podcast
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  Speaker 1: that's going to show up with the intention of being
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  Speaker 1: the Hallmark hater. That's not our goal, right, Like I
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  Speaker 1: come at this wanting to like the movie. Sometimes I don't,
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  Speaker 1: and I think we're pretty honest when it doesn't work
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  Speaker 1: for us. Yeah, for sure. Can we address the Finding
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  Speaker 1: Mister Christmas comment? Yeah, okay, so the comment you read,
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  Speaker 1: I get concerned with the Finding Mister Christmas episodes that
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  Speaker 1: you're too afraid of hurting people's feelings to give critique.
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  Speaker 1: Season two was interesting for us because we got an
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  Speaker 1: incredible opportunity early on to be part of their reunion episode. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we knew who won m we met these people. But
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: you guys, if you've ever read my recaps on the
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  Speaker 1: on our website, we said Gabriel not a great actor,
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  Speaker 1: cool guy, the nicest person you will ever meet one
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  Speaker 1: of the nicest, Like I liked him as a person,
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  Speaker 1: not a great actor, and Gabriel knew. Gabriel made a
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  Speaker 1: self deprecating comment at the reunion, like he was like, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: were you so surprised to say that I didn't win.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be hard for me to
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  Speaker 1: talk about the show and knowing who the winner was.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't really that hard to just live in the
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  Speaker 1: moment of the episodes and react. What was different is
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  Speaker 1: because we had met them, I had a very different
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  Speaker 1: perspective than I would have just watching them on television. Same.
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  Speaker 1: I knew Gabriel was a cool guy. I knew Davy
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  Speaker 1: will walk up to you and look you in the
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  Speaker 1: eye and have this super genuine moment with you. I
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  Speaker 1: knew that, what's mister golden retriever energy? Right, Like, we
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  Speaker 1: had a moment with those guys where we got to
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  Speaker 1: know them. It was on set, it was in a
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  Speaker 1: press relationship. I don't for any minute think that we
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: are friends with them. But like Jake, who's in one episode,
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  Speaker 1: we got to talk to him and we had like
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  Speaker 1: a moment. I'm like, oh, I know them a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more, and so yeah, we did like them. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: if you're coming for Robbie, Wendy will tell you. We
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  Speaker 1: saw the first two screeners before we went to the set,
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  Speaker 1: and you said, who do you like? And I said,
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  Speaker 1: Robbie's my favorite? Was he my favorite? From day one?
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  Speaker 1: He was? Now, I know not everybody loved Robbie. Okay, fine,
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  Speaker 1: we had different opinions. I didn't think we were too generous.
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people don't like the reality
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: genre that Hallmark has taken on. Yeah, and so I
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  Speaker 1: think maybe a lot of people might want us to
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: hate on that. Oh, but you and I are fans
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: of the reality genre, especially this reality competition genre. I
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: love Finding Mister Christmas. I'm pissed that it's not coming back.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Me too, but I would never Yes, I can be
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: been nice to rust In, y'all. Mecca didn't like rust
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: In that at all. Guys, not as a person. I
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: didn't dislike them as a person. But we're fans of
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: the genre, and I think we were fans of the show,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: and so that's why we were excited. And then you know,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: there's this human element and we got to meet some
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: of these people, so like, yes, do we get kind
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: of swayed a little bit. Yeah, because we're people. Because
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: we're humans, you know, that's interesting. We are fans of
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: the genre. I also think people wanted us to be
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: more critical of the acting. We're critical of where they are.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: These people are not established Hallmark actors yet they're at
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: the beginning. I could talk all day about finding mister Christmas.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Let's move on. Okay, let's move on. People don't like
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: it when we do housekeeping. I don't like the plugging
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: of the Facebook group every episode. Maybe limit it to
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: one episode per week. Whenever you bring it up, I
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: tune out. I've tried to change up, like the promos
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: we do up top. Yeah, that, unfortunately is another one
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: of the costs of doing business things I try and
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: rush through it pretty quickly. Yeah, Like, we got a
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: lot of stuff going on outside of the podcast. I
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: just want people to know, like, hey, I mean, if
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Facebook's not for you, it's not for you. It's fine.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Facebook's not for me. Yeah, but I have a group
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: over there, and thankfully now it kind of just operates
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: on its own, like you and I don't need to
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: be in there kind of like managing it. But if
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: it's not for you, like this is we have to promote,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: we have to promote. Are the most people are not
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: going to find us? And then what's the point of
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: doing this show? And some people are like, hey, I'm
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: brand new to the show and they haven't heard us
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: say at five hundred and sixty two other times exactly,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: so I did hear you. I do try and change
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: those up, but unfortunately, and I try and just make
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: it like a quick hey, this is what we got
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: going on. Check us out. Yeah, one of my favorite podcasts.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to mention it here, but one of
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: my favorite podc Like they always start at the top
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: of the episode of like they want to know they
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: read a comment, a review, Yeah, a review. I just
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: tap tap through it because I don't mean too. I
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: don't I don't care. Yeah, same, I don't care. I
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: like reading our I like reading our reviews on our podcast. Yeah,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: and I think the person who writes it in is
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: probably excited to hear their review too, But maybe everybody
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: else other than that doesn't. That's okay. You can be
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: like Megan and Wendy and just tap tap tap tap. Yeah.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: This is an interesting ones, some people said when asked
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: about the first impressions segment that we could go a
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: little deeper. First impressions sometimes seem to lean more toward
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Quippi humor than relevant insights. I think that's an exact
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: reflection of what we want that segment to be. Yeah,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I'm not changing anything about it. It's two. It's my
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: favorite thing to come up with every episode. We dig
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: into our insights in the additional likes and wishes segment
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: of the episode. So, yes, I would say, first impression
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: is not a this is what I thought about this
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: movie people laugh. Yes, that's supposed to be It's supposed
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: to be funny. It's supposed to be like a one
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: sentence summary of where I'm coming from. This is what
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: you might expect from my detailed likes and wishes. Yeah,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: it's supposed to give you a hint like did I
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: like it? Did? Did they notice the funny thing I noticed? Yeah? Exactly. Overall,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: first impressions in case somebody's wondering on a scale of
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: one to five, scored four point three. So most people
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: like it. But if you don't, but I think it's
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: fair to be, like, we'll keep listening past the first impression.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: You're going to hear a more detailed recap review opinion
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: in our likes and wishes segments. Yeah, if it's not
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: getting there for you, I'm I'm I'm curious what's not
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: getting there for you? So email us at low at
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Girls Coming. When we go through likes and wishes, are
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: you still missing something some people had? We have gotten
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: feedback in the past. People have said this, you're not
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: recapping the movie. That's true. We don't recap the movies.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: We do this and then we talk about the movie.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: And I think that's very true of a lot of
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: movie reviews. They're not doing a full We're not doing
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: a full recap. That is just is not what we do.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: We've tried with The Way Home. It's so hard. Sorry,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: it's so yeah to do a minute by minute recap. Hi.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I think most people have seen the movie. They just
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: want to talk about it. Yeah. Yeah, we talked a little.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: We asked you what you thought about non Hallmark content
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: on the main feed. Most people are fine with it.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Some people said, don't do it. Stick with Hallmark. We
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: will probably continue to branch out a little bit. Hallmark
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: is always going to be our bread and butter over
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: here on Girls Gone, Hallmark that's what we built this
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: brand on. But a lot of people got really into
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: the PBS stuff, and my advice to you would be
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: just to skip those episodes. And we're not doing it
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: at the expense of Hallmark content. No, we're still covering
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Hallmark movies. We're still covering all the Hallmark series. These
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: were Hallmark adjacent ish and so I get it if
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: you don't want to watch new stuff. I don't always
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: want to watch new stuff either. I don't always want
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: to watch Hallmark. Oh, some people said I would push
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: this stuff, that stuff to Patreon. Let's be frank, it's
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: not going to Let's talk about Patreon for a minute.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: That's not going to work. It's just not going to work.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Patreon is a weird little animal. We have tried to
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: get Girls Gone Hallmark listeners over to Patreon with the
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: exclusive Hallmark content over there. It is when our podcast
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: was much smaller, we tried to have Hallmark content over
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: there and it wasn't the biggest hit. People have suggested
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: doing ad free episodes over there. I'm not super opposed
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: to it. I'm not opposed to it at all. My
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: only opposition is I wanted to make financial sense in
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: terms of the time it takes. It doesn't take that
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: much time, but it is an additional thing to add
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: to the plate to publish those episodes over on Patreon,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: and I would want it to be a big enough
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: audience to make that make financial sense to be quie Frank,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing it for two or three people. Our
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Patreon is not Hallmark focused because because most of our
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Patreon listeners aren't here for the Hallmark content. This is
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: just the thing we go back and forth on. We
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: have a couple different niches, and we have found that
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: most Hallmark listeners aren't interested in paying, at least for
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: us for additional content. Right. There is so much Hallmark
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: content out there, and the Hallmark audience of listeners is
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: relatively small in terms of overall listenership that it's hard
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: to convert that into it paid listenership. Right, But if
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: you look at it from the angle of oh, let's
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: add this PBS show that may have the same audience
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: as a regular Hallmark viewer, that makes sense to put
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: that review in our feed because we are trying to
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: grow listenership. Yeah, oh, I don't want Hallmark, but I
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: listened to this. Oh I like the kind of money Crystal,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen to these episodes. Oh, I like Megan
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: and Wendy. I'll listen to that other Hallmark stuff, right Exactly.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: That's kind of the trajectory there that we're hoping for. Oh,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: we're gonna review this Lifetime movie because Sarah Drew is
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: in it. You know, we're just trying to do related
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: content that might quite frankly draw on some new viewers.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Exactly listeners exactly. Oh do you want to talk about politics?
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Some of our listeners said, quote, don't be political. Quote.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: I prefer the show stayed focused without venturing into political territory.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: It pulls me out of the escape this vibe and
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: finally leave Great American Family bashing behind the Patreon wall. Okay,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: first of all, we don't actually talk about politics here
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: on this podcast. Come on over to Padren. No, we don't.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: It's not even I mean, it's we talk about life.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: There's a whiff of it. Yeah, yeah, but it's certainly
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: not a political podcast. But I'm never going to say
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: that we're not political, because life is political. We don't
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: talk about politics. We talk about yes and diversity and
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: celebrating when we get LGBTQ storylines and talking about cultural appropriation.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: And I understand that for some things those are political,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: but for us, we would not be being true to
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: ourselves if we ignored those elements of these movies. And
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I understand that that means we are not the podcast
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: for everybody. Yeah, and that's okay, and that is okay.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Let's talk interviews. Okay, interviews, guys. I'm like sweating. Someone
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: in the Facebook group recently was like, hey, can you
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: interview this person? Here's our thoughts. I okay. I always
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: think we should interview more people. Yeah, I think that
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: listeners will want to hear interviews. Quite frankly, those episodes
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: don't do that well for us. That's not true. There
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: are some that don't do well. Yeah. I mean if
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: we had Tyler Hines on, I yes, I think that
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: episode would do well. But if we had a writer on, yeah,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: those don't do it. A Lahas interviews always rank really well. Yeah,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: the interviews are weird, Okay. I love talking to the
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: people that we've interviewed, writer, director, it's an actor, designer,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: interested so much fun. I go into them so nervous.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I have major imposter syndrome. Every single time. It's really
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: an US thing. I'd love to talk to these people.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I'd love to produce more of these interviews. It's really
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: just a logistics thing. Honestly, it's a nerves nervous thing
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: for me. Sure me too. I mean, if you guys know,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Megan's so good at interviews, like she she handles all
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: the questions, She does all of it. Because I sit
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: there and like slowly melt inside. I just really I
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: get in my own head and I think I have
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: anything interesting to say in this interview, Like is there
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: any These actors, especially when they're promoting something, are doing
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: a ton of interviews. They're being asked the same questions
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: over and over again, and I really think, do I
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: have anything interesting to say? Am I contributing to this
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: conversation at all? Like? Is this any different from an
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: interview anywhere else? Sometimes yes, we have fun conversations, and
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: sometimes not that we don't have fun conversations. The interview
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: ease always show up and deliver. But yeah, we get
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: in our head about it. Yeah, I really get in
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: my head about it, you know that. Yeah, I feel
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: like I just sit there and observe. Well, And Hallmark
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: has been pushing these press junkets lately, and the feedback
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: on our end has not quite frankly been super positive
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: from the listeners, as say, notice how Megan is always
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: on the press junk kits. I'm not there and Wendy
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: won't do them. Sometimes they're like, I haven't done the
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: last several because scheduling. Yes, they've tried to make talent
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: available for those. Honestly, the feedback from the listeners they
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: don't love the press chunk of I get it. They're
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: not intimate. They're not intimate, and we would all rather
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: have a one on one situation as well, even with
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: a shorter timeframe. So that's just something that we're continuing
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: to work out on the back end. More interviews, less interviews.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Some people said, I'm not crazy about interviews. I'd rather
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: hear Mangan and Wendy with each other. And we're here
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: for you, and you should subscribe to our patreon. I
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: don't know if you're not on. If you are on
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: our patreon and you did not listen to this week's
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: approved episode, which dropped on Monday, y'all we get a
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: straight up fire on that episode. Something so stupid too.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I was editing, I was laughing. I was like, did
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: you have to like rein it in to like have
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: a normal conversation or were you just over it when
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: it was done? Were you mad through the rest of
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: the recording. No, I just was like, let's just move on.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to harbor like ill feelings over something
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: stupid like that. Butter, can't we talk about our next comment?
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Somebody had mentioned they said, Hey, I don't have money
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: for a monthly patron, but I'd pay for a once
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: a year annual meetup. Oh uh huh, And to this
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: I go, that is so sweet. But also, nobody's coming
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: to meet us. Nobody's pain. Nobody nobody's pain, and the
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: number of people are not paining. The issue is the
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: world is wide. If y'all lived, if all of our
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: highly engaged listeners lived within a sixty mile radius, then yes,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: I think we could get a small intimate group who
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: would come to an event. But this is a big
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: leave someone to pay for a ticket and travel to
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: an event. Are people going to get on the plane
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: for us? They're just not. No, they're not. I would
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: love that. That's my dream of dreams is to do
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: a live podcast tour to multiple cities. That is my dream.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: It's you guys can read the room like, that's not
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: happening if we're not on iHeartRadio or but we would be,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: we would be. We're not an exclusive on Spotify. Like
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: we have a very nice listenership, yes, but yes we're
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: not armchair expert. Yeah, we have a highly engaged and
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: lovely listenership that we are very happy to have. But no,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: we are not armchair expert. We're not SmartLess. We're not
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: going to have our own channel on Serious XM. Although, man,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: would I love it if we could have a feature
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: on Hallmark's XM channel during the holidays. Yeah, that would
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: be great, but it's not happening. Okay, So you just
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: heard the behind the scenes of our thought process on
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: these survey results that came in. Once again, we truly
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: do appreciate everyone who took the time to fill out
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: the surveys, to type in your answers, to give us
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: your feedback. We're taking it all to heart. Some of
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: it we're taking to heart a little bit too much.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: But ultimately, we want to make this a podcast that
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: we're proud of, and we want to make it a
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: podcast that you enjoy listening to. So hopefully you enjoyed
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: this rundown of the recent listener feedback, and perhaps if
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: this episode dropped in your feed and you're like, I
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: don't want to listen to that, that you just skipped
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: right through it. We'll be back tomorrow with more listener
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: feedback with our The Way Home Listener Mailbag episode. Goodbye, y'all. Bye,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: all right friends, Before we go, just a quick heads up,
• 32:29
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