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The Power of C60: Energy, Longevity & Vitality with Jess MacNaughton · Ageless and Timeless Podcast®

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Speaker 1: Good morning everyone. This is Michelle Hughes from Ageless and Timeless.
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Speaker 1: Today I have a guest that I've been talking to
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Speaker 1: actually very accidentally learned about her and her company at
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Speaker 1: Radfest in last September and was so excited to know
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Speaker 1: about their company and what they do. So I'm going
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Speaker 1: to introduce you to Jess McNaughton, who is the CEO
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Speaker 1: of C sixty and their website just everybody knows is
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Speaker 1: shop C sixty dot com.
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Speaker 2: Is that right, Jess, C sixty Power, And we manufacture
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Speaker 2: products with the molecule carbon sixty C sixty, So yeah,
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Speaker 2: C sixty Power, and you've got the website at shop
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Speaker 2: C sixty dot com.
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Speaker 1: Right, So what does the power mean and the and
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Speaker 1: the title Who's.
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Speaker 2: The power mean? Well, Michelle, what we do is we
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Speaker 2: help people with their cellular energy. And what C sixty
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Speaker 2: does is it works at the cellular level to lift
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Speaker 2: the oxidati and burden, basically neutralizes oxidative stress. And the
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Speaker 2: way that the way that C sixty supports people is
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Speaker 2: through energy and mental clarity. And so our big mission
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Speaker 2: on the planet is to help people with supporting them
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Speaker 2: with that cellular energy so they can have energy to
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Speaker 2: go out and do what their big mission is on
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Speaker 2: the planet. Did Why did God put you on this planet?
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Speaker 1: You know?
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Speaker 2: Why are you here today? We're we're providing the cellular
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Speaker 2: energy and support to give you that boost, that momentum
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Speaker 2: to go do what your purpose is on the planet.
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Speaker 2: So the power is about your energy, your mental clarity,
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Speaker 2: but it's also about your personal power.
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Speaker 1: Hmm, that's beautiful. Well, you have a backstory, so why
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Speaker 1: don't you start by telling us how you got to
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Speaker 1: be a part of all of this beautiful mission it is.
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Speaker 2: My background is different than what you would expect for
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Speaker 2: someone manufacturing products containing carbon sixty. I had a long
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Speaker 2: career in commercial real estate and in twenty seventeen I
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Speaker 2: was going through a burnout health related challenge, and around
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Speaker 2: that same time, my path crossed with Ken Schwartz, who's
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Speaker 2: my business partner. He is our former chief science officer.
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Speaker 2: Today he is chairman Meredith and a co founder with me.
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Speaker 2: But our paths crossed and Ken had been doing some
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Speaker 2: research on C sixty, specifically because he was wanting to
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Speaker 2: bring forward a more efficient form of nuclear fusion and
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Speaker 2: he wanted to protect himself from radiation exposure and he
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Speaker 2: had heard about C sixty and some tests that had
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Speaker 2: been done with some animals when it was first discovered
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Speaker 2: where they gave rats extreme doses of radiation and then
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Speaker 2: a group of rats got no C sixty. And what
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Speaker 2: ended up happening was the rats that had C sixty
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Speaker 2: lived and the other rats died, and Ken was able
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Speaker 2: to go down his path and do his research and
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Speaker 2: prove that this research was successful and his entire team
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Speaker 2: lived and through that process what ended up happening next
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Speaker 2: was after about seven eight months of use Ken's dry
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Speaker 2: macular degeneration, he went to his doctor. It was gone,
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Speaker 2: and his doctor was shocked. And the only thing he
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Speaker 2: had been doing was using C sixty. And Ken had
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Speaker 2: a research associate who had wet macular degeneration at the time,
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Speaker 2: and he was at risk of going blind. He made
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Speaker 2: some lifestyle choices and changes, and this gentleman within a
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Speaker 2: year and a half he went back to his doctor
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Speaker 2: and his wet macular degeneration had gone away. So Ken
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Speaker 2: shared this information with me, and I didn't know what
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Speaker 2: it was. I was very skeptical, and I quite frankly
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Speaker 2: I didn't understand it, but he kept on reminding me
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Speaker 2: just try it, Just try it, let's see what happens.
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Speaker 2: And I haven't had a vision event, but what happened
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Speaker 2: for me was very was different. My hair started to grow.
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Speaker 2: I had very short hair, like a bob haircut most
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Speaker 2: of my twenties and thirties because I couldn't get my
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Speaker 2: hair to grow. My hair started to grow. And I
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Speaker 2: have really bad allergies. We were both living in Colorado
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Speaker 2: at the time, and I'm allergic to most of the
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Speaker 2: grasses and trees there, and I loved to hike and
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Speaker 2: bike and ski, and I was living there for all
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Speaker 2: the reasons a lot of people live in Colorado. But
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Speaker 2: I was running around always Michelle with like a cleanex
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Speaker 2: under my nose, and it was embarrassing. I could be
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Speaker 2: at you know, meetings with a client or something, and
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Speaker 2: I would have a drink or a bite of some food,
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Speaker 2: my nose would start running and that was just was
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Speaker 2: really embarrassing. But I noticed after about few months, I
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Speaker 2: wasn't using Kleenex anymore, and I was like, that's interesting.
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Speaker 2: And then I noticed that my really intense painful PMS symptoms,
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Speaker 2: where if I had had the luxury of time to
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Speaker 2: stay in bed for one day a month, which I
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Speaker 2: never had that luxury of time. I could just be
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Speaker 2: doubled over in pain. But then I noticed after about
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Speaker 2: six months that my periods would kind of come and
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Speaker 2: go and I was not experiencing any intense pain. So
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Speaker 2: those were some of the initial things that started to
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Speaker 2: wake me up. And then I noticed my bandwidth was expanding.
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Speaker 2: I just felt like I could process information better faster,
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Speaker 2: and I would expand it. I would describe it as
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Speaker 2: it feels like your synapsters are firing appropriately, like on
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Speaker 2: the days when you're in the flow and stress is
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Speaker 2: coming at you, life is coming at you, and you're
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Speaker 2: just able to deal with whatever lands on your plate.
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Speaker 1: Like.
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Speaker 2: Those were some of the things that started to happen
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Speaker 2: for me, and all of those experiences occurred within about
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Speaker 2: six months of trying it, kind of intermittently. After that,
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Speaker 2: I was like, all right, I'm going to take this
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Speaker 2: a little bit more seriously, and I started incorporating it
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Speaker 2: into my morning routine. It's very simple. You just put
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Speaker 2: a spoonful of spoonful of C sixty into your coffee
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Speaker 2: in the morning. And I'm a big coffee fan, so
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Speaker 2: once I figured out how to work it, into my
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Speaker 2: morning routine. I started to notice the benefits and it's
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Speaker 2: just kind of grown from there. So that was back
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Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, and the rest is kind
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Speaker 2: of history. But Ken and I decided to join forces
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Speaker 2: around that time, and we've been working to help get
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Speaker 2: out the good word about C sixty to the masses
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Speaker 2: ever since.
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, you and I both have the same background.
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Speaker 1: I'm a real estate developer as well, although residential, and
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Speaker 1: I also lived in Aspen for about ten years, even
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Speaker 1: though I always kept my home here in the Bay Area,
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Speaker 1: but Aspen was one of the big areas that I
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Speaker 1: developed six major homes. So congratulations because we both made
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Speaker 1: that transition from being in an entrepreneur Well, I was
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Speaker 1: in an entrepreneuri because I started my own company. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if you were with a firm, were you
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Speaker 1: with a term in commercial real estate?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was with several and I also had entrepreneurial
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Speaker 2: ventures at the same time. So this is my fourth
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Speaker 2: entrepreneurial adventure in addition to you know, doing big partnerships
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Speaker 2: and collaborations in that space as well.
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Speaker 1: We're like twins, that's amazing.
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Speaker 2: I were like sisters from another mother exactly.
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Speaker 1: And I always say that I have a lot of
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Speaker 1: male friends that I always say brother from another mother.
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Speaker 1: That was better. But yeah, So what do you think
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Speaker 1: Ken saw in you that made him want you to
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Speaker 1: join him as his business partner?
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Speaker 2: Oh? Well, that's a fun question, Ken, that's a good question.
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Speaker 2: The reality is my background is you know, building, development, creation,
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Speaker 2: leading teams, getting big, hard, impossible things done, and lots
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Speaker 2: of lots of experience with marketing and all that.
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Speaker 1: So plus plus the entrepreneurial you've started things from scratch. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and he was at the very beginning. I've watched you know,
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Speaker 1: I met Ken at Radfest and again at a four
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Speaker 1: M so I've had the pleasure of chatting with him,
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Speaker 1: and he's quite engaging For a scientist, he's actually pretty articulate.
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Speaker 1: And I've watched him on a few podcasts as well,
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Speaker 1: so I think, you know, he he obviously has a
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Speaker 1: broader business sense than a lot of scientists might have.
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Speaker 1: Do you do you agree?
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Speaker 2: Good instinct?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, very good. Yeah, and he explained things in a
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Speaker 1: layman's terms. He doesn't get all esoteric, you know. So
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Speaker 1: that's that's good. Well, that's good. That's really a great
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Speaker 1: back story and so so twenty seventeen you joined partner
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Speaker 1: join C sixty too. At that point, where was the
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Speaker 1: company and its development?
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Speaker 2: Sep ten the startup?
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Speaker 1: It was a startup, okay. So did you go get
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Speaker 1: funding and.
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Speaker 2: No, we're self funded. It's it's just Ken and I.
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Speaker 1: Oh, okay, okay. So you gave up your real estate
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Speaker 1: career to do this full time? Then at that time
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Speaker 1: it took.
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Speaker 2: A little while. It took a little while. I started
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Speaker 1: this exciting company. Okay, so just the going back to
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Speaker 1: the history of C sixty. So let's let's let our
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Speaker 1: viewers know what exactly is C sixty. Yeah, gave a
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Speaker 1: little preface of that. Oh, thank you for doing that. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I asked I just.
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Speaker 2: So your I got your molecule. I also have it
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Speaker 2: on the backdrop here behind me. But what C sixty is.
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Speaker 2: It's a molecule of carbon and it was discovered in
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Speaker 2: the mid eighties by a group of scientists out of
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Speaker 2: Rice University. And uh, they were actually trying to solve
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Speaker 2: a question that had to do with the stars, and
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Speaker 2: they found they found C sixty existing in the atmosphere
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Speaker 2: of large red stars. It's it's kind of a far
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Speaker 2: out story. And what in the mid nineties, the scientists
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Speaker 2: actually won a Nobel Prize for their discovery at C sixty.
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Speaker 2: And what they were able to figure out is and
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Speaker 2: the way that it's been characterized today is that C
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Speaker 2: sixty is the most powerful antioxidant ever discovered. It's it's
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Speaker 2: powerful and it's unique because of the its unique structure.
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Speaker 2: It's comprised of sixty atoms of carbon, and as you
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Speaker 2: can see, it looks like a cage like soccer ball.
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Speaker 2: C sixty is a free radical sponge. It operates in
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Speaker 2: a way where it can go in and neutralize oxidative
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Speaker 2: stress and toxic free radicals. Those are the things that
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Speaker 2: contribute to basically your body aging. You get think about
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Speaker 2: it when your body is rusting. I don't know about you, Michelle.
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Speaker 2: I'm When I look at my skin, I'm pretty fair skinned.
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Speaker 2: And when I was younger, I was bad. I spent
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Speaker 2: a lot of time in the sun, and so I
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Speaker 2: have a fair amount of oxidative stress that's visible, you know,
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Speaker 2: later in life because I was spending too much time
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Speaker 2: trying to be much darker than like my natural body
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Speaker 2: would prefer. But that's axating stress. But what C sixty
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Speaker 2: does is it works at the cellular level to neutralize
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Speaker 2: that and turns it back into water in the body
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Speaker 2: at the cellular level, and then it can reset itself
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Speaker 2: again and again and again. That's what's really unique about it.
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Speaker 2: So it's this massive free radical sponge. And the thing
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Speaker 2: that people notice, most people notice within about thirty days
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Speaker 2: of daily use is an increase in energy and mental clarity.
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Speaker 2: And so that's really great because a lot of us
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Speaker 2: as we age, we experience usually over the age of forty,
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Speaker 2: people start to notice the effects of their body producing
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Speaker 2: less natural antioxidants, and that can show up as a
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Speaker 2: random ache and pain, you know, visible signs of aging,
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Speaker 2: all sorts of you know, disease states can get kicked
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Speaker 2: up because of too much oxidative stress, and that contributes
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Speaker 2: to inflammation. So C sixty helps neutralize. It helps keep
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Speaker 2: the inflammation at a balanced level healthy, so it's not
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Speaker 2: having an overreaction. And the same with the immune system.
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Speaker 2: It keeps helps the immune system stay balanced so you're
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Speaker 2: not having an overreaction. So earlier in the conversation, I
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Speaker 2: mentioned that one of the first things I noticed was
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Speaker 2: a change in my response to allergies, and C sixty
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Speaker 2: helps keep that histamine reaction balanced. So it's not to
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Speaker 2: say that I won't have you know, that I won't sneeze,
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Speaker 2: or that my eyes won't be read some days if
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Speaker 2: there's a bunch of environmental stuff kicked up, but my
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Speaker 2: body's not having an overreaction to it. I'm not going
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Speaker 2: through a box of cleanexes in you know, three hours.
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Speaker 2: I might blow my nose once and then I'm done.
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Speaker 2: So it really keeps things at the cellular level balanced,
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Speaker 2: and you can think about it. Inside the cell, there
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Speaker 2: is the mitochondria, which is a cell inside our cells,
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Speaker 2: and that's the ATP probably remember from eighth grade science,
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Speaker 2: the powerhouse of the cell. But C sixty, you can
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Speaker 2: think about it kind of like sweeps that out and
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Speaker 2: so it gets the junk out just naturally, kind of
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Speaker 2: sweeps it out, and then the body can do what
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Speaker 2: it's supposed to do naturally heal itself. You've got to
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Speaker 2: do all the other good things with you know, to
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Speaker 2: support C sixty. So healthy lifestyle choices, which I'm I'm
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Speaker 2: sure you talk about all the time, you know, prioritizing
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Speaker 2: your sleep, getting movement every day, you know, some kind
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Speaker 2: of joyful movement with your body, drinking clean water, prioritizing
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Speaker 2: eating you know, whole clean foods, organic when you can,
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Speaker 2: and really just being considerate of like the toxins in
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Speaker 2: your life, whether it be toxic people or toxins you
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Speaker 2: know that are all around us all the time, but
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Speaker 2: choosing products and you know, supplements that are as clean
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Speaker 2: and free of those heavy chemicals as possible is really important.
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Speaker 1: So you are raising so many questions, so let me
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Speaker 1: ask a few questions because I want to they're burning,
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Speaker 1: they're burning me here, I want okay, I want everybody
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Speaker 1: to know. The mitochondria is are the basically the source
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Speaker 1: of your health. Your's the health of yourself is the
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Speaker 1: health of your body. And the ATP as you just mentioned,
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Speaker 1: are the basically the energy centers of the mitochondria. So
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Speaker 1: they produce the ATP produces the energy. It's it's AT
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Speaker 1: nine triphosphate something or rather right if you want to
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Speaker 1: go into the science. But ATP is good enough. So
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Speaker 1: the C sixty is like the sponge and comes into
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Speaker 1: those mitochondria. How does the C sixty then eliminate the
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Speaker 1: toxicity that they are sponging and getting eliminating from your body?
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Speaker 1: What's the process of the C sixty now taking and
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Speaker 1: basically detoxing you from all of that toxicity they just
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Speaker 1: eliminated from the cells.
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Speaker 2: He sucks it up into the C sixty molecule and
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Speaker 2: it neutralizes it and turns it back into water by
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Speaker 2: product and then set itself again and again.
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Speaker 1: Does that mean that you're going to use the restroom
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Speaker 1: more when you're taking C sixty because you're eliminating the water.
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Speaker 2: Really good question. I really appreciate, like the direction that
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Speaker 2: you go with that C sixty can have. It certainly
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Speaker 2: have a detoxifying effect, so it would be appropriate when
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Speaker 2: you're first starting and throughout your journey, we recommend drinking water.
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Speaker 2: Your body always wants to flesh out toxins, so you know,
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Speaker 2: being hydrated with clean water is a really critical component
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Speaker 2: to a healthy body. You know, we're all mostly water,
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Speaker 2: so you could see that. I don't know if I've
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Speaker 2: ever if we've ever been on the receiving end of
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Speaker 2: someone saying I'm peeing a lot more in all these years,
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Speaker 2: I haven't heard that, but it's it's certainly possible, but
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Speaker 2: I would I would recommend one hundred percent that you
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Speaker 2: do increase your water intake, taking it or or even
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Speaker 2: not taking it. That drinking a lot of water is
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Speaker 2: important flesh out. Are the toxins out of our system?
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Speaker 1: So is there a difference between the brain and nerve cells,
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Speaker 1: which of course they are about how many two million
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Speaker 1: in our bodies of brain and nurve cells and the
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Speaker 1: rest of the let's say five thousand cells that are
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Speaker 1: in our body. In other words, is there a difference
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Speaker 1: in how C sixty affects the brain and nerve cells
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Speaker 1: versus the rest of the body, like the heart cells
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Speaker 1: or the lung cells or something like that. Is there
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Speaker 1: any kind of a method of elimination that differs between
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Speaker 1: those two.
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Speaker 2: Different C sixty is that it crosses the blood brain barrier,
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Speaker 2: so most antioxidants don't. So the nice thing about C
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Speaker 2: sixty is that it's not going to interact or respond
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Speaker 2: negatively to any of the other supplements or vitamins or
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Speaker 2: medications that you're taking. But it's important to take it
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Speaker 2: first thing in the morning because it's going to cross
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Speaker 2: the blood brain barrier. It needs to go. It's going
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Speaker 2: to deliver the antioxidant support to the brain, to your cells.
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Speaker 2: Now I'm I'm not a doctor, so I'm not going
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Speaker 2: to go into a you know, like kens of biogeochemist
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Speaker 2: if you want to go into a chemistry conversation, you know,
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Speaker 2: like he's better for that. But what I can tell
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Speaker 2: you is that it's it's important to take it in
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Speaker 2: the morning, take it before your other supplements, so it
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Speaker 2: can help deliver those as well. And in terms of
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Speaker 2: is there there's a tremendous amount of mitochondria in your brain,
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Speaker 2: and because it's crossing the blood brain barrier, you're going
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Speaker 2: to get the benefit from that, but it's going to
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Speaker 2: benefit the mitochondria throughout your body. The one thing I
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Speaker 2: will mention is if you're taking blood thinners, Like if
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Speaker 2: you buy our products, you'll see, you know, a notice
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Speaker 2: on the box about if you're taking blood thinners, consult
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Speaker 2: your doctor. That's only because you might not need blood
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Speaker 2: thinners after a while. C sixty may support balancing the blood.
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Speaker 2: And so if you happen to be on blood thinners
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Speaker 2: and you take it, you just would want to get
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Speaker 2: tested more frequently because you might not need that medication
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Speaker 2: at some point in time. But other than that, there's
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Speaker 2: no there's no uh, there's no other medications or supplements
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Speaker 2: that it would interact.
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Speaker 1: With contraindicated That was another question. So good, I'm glad
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Speaker 1: you said that. So in the six molecule, how does
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Speaker 1: it interact with glutathione or other antioxidants.
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Speaker 2: So the sixty activates pregnet alone, the precursor molecule to
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Speaker 2: all the hormones. So and it's also an SOD mimic. Uh,
20:23
Speaker 2: so it can be really supportive. You can get a nice,
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Speaker 2: gentle natural lift because it can do the antioxidant action
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Speaker 2: of SOD and so then your glutathione could actually you know,
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Speaker 2: work a little bit more efficiental efficiently and depending on
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Speaker 2: you know, what type of genetic makeup you have, Like
20:43
Speaker 2: I have a glutathione processing issue, I need extra support
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Speaker 2: with SOD. So it's very convenient that I have access
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Speaker 2: to ample C sixty because it's very beneficial for me.
20:55
Speaker 2: If you haven't done that testing, you might not know,
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Speaker 2: but it it will. It will help support a gentle
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Speaker 2: dental natural lifting of your other hormones.
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Speaker 1: Well, here again we're twins because I did the geese
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Speaker 1: the uh what do you call it? The DNA tech
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Speaker 1: Company's three sixty tests, And I know Ken did it
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Speaker 1: too because he mentioned that to me. So yeah, I
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Speaker 1: have the same issue that I'm a slow methy later
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Speaker 1: and I'm compromised with glue to thio, so I have
21:28
Speaker 1: to always know that I need to stimulate the glue
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Speaker 1: to thio and production, and so the C sixty helps
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Speaker 1: to facilitate that process. So that's another similarity that we
21:40
Speaker 1: have it's not easy when you're you know, you do
21:43
Speaker 1: everything else right, you know your diet.
21:46
Speaker 2: You're yeah, apologize, I'm getting a little.
21:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just needs a But remember too that I
21:52
Speaker 1: always tell people this that the DNA company's test is
21:55
Speaker 1: an epigenetics functional DNA test, So that means that you're
22:00
Speaker 1: not stuck with what they produce in their sixty page report,
22:05
Speaker 1: that that is a blueprint for who you are and
22:09
Speaker 1: what your parents gave you. But that doesn't mean that
22:12
Speaker 1: you have to be stuck with that. You can do
22:15
Speaker 1: other things epigenetically, which means lifestyle that can affect that.
22:19
Speaker 1: So that sounds like you and I are doing the
22:22
Speaker 1: exact same thing. So tell me what those three men
22:27
Speaker 1: that won the Nobel Prize from Rice University, whatever happened
22:31
Speaker 1: to them? Did they take the product? Because I remember
22:34
Speaker 1: when I read about C sixty in the beginning that
22:37
Speaker 1: it was not meant for humans, or at least they
22:39
Speaker 1: didn't know that it was more batteries and ink and tires,
22:45
Speaker 1: And so.
22:46
Speaker 2: The original thought when they first discovered it, they thought
22:49
Speaker 2: that there might be an application for industrial purposes. You know,
22:53
Speaker 2: the first thought could be like, well, maybe we can
22:55
Speaker 2: put it in solar panels and it could improve the
22:58
Speaker 2: ability of solar panels, and so as they started to
23:02
Speaker 2: improve the functionality of them, as they wanted to experiment
23:07
Speaker 2: with it. The first thing is, you know, is it
23:09
Speaker 2: safe for humans? At what level is it toxic? Because
23:12
Speaker 2: if you're going to experiment with it, you're gonna have
23:14
Speaker 2: to you know, figure that out. And so what they
23:17
Speaker 2: discovered using some some wister rats, which are test animals.
23:22
Speaker 2: They're they're genetically modified to they have a very short
23:27
Speaker 2: life span because they're they're just used for testing purposes.
23:33
Speaker 2: What they found was it no level was C sixty toxic.
23:37
Speaker 2: Like they gave these these rats insane doses and they
23:40
Speaker 2: found no toxicity. That was surprising. In another very famous test,
23:46
Speaker 2: they found out that C sixty doubled the life span
23:52
Speaker 2: of the test animals. These these animals are designed to basically,
23:56
Speaker 2: you know, get cancers and tumors and die. They literally
24:03
Speaker 2: had to kill the rats to publish the study because
24:05
Speaker 2: the rats kept on being so long. So they were
24:09
Speaker 2: they were very surprised the age related tumors and the
24:12
Speaker 2: other things were gone with C sixty, so that was
24:16
Speaker 2: really surprising. They ended up accelerating the what I believe
24:21
Speaker 2: they ended up accelerating the delivery of the Nobel Prize
24:26
Speaker 2: because the gentlemen were so old. So we're now that
24:32
Speaker 2: was nineteen ninety six for now, you know, almost you know,
24:38
Speaker 2: twenty years later. So today you know. C sixty has
24:45
Speaker 2: been consumed by humans since about twenty fifteen, and we've
24:52
Speaker 2: got there's there's a tremendous amount of animal studies and
24:57
Speaker 2: some human studies that have been done. One of the
25:01
Speaker 2: things that I think is really exciting about C sixty
25:04
Speaker 2: as it relates to you, Michelle, and your audience and
25:07
Speaker 2: your passionate about being ageless and timeless, is that in
25:14
Speaker 2: human studies, C sixty, when applied topically with some women
25:18
Speaker 2: in Japan, has been proven to lessen the appearance of
25:22
Speaker 2: fine lines and wrinkles. I think this is really exciting
25:25
Speaker 2: for everybody who's in our space who is concerned about
25:30
Speaker 2: how do we look and feel our best at any age.
25:36
Speaker 2: And so we've created a topical skincare line to address
25:41
Speaker 2: the common issues that people have as they age, because,
25:46
Speaker 2: like you, we also really care about people being able
25:51
Speaker 2: to gracefully age, and so we've created a C sixty
26:01
Speaker 2: Youth Renewal I cream which has not only C sixty
26:07
Speaker 2: and some very you know, other powerful ingredients, but copper peptides,
26:10
Speaker 2: and it's specifically designed to address the very delicate skin
26:17
Speaker 2: around the eyes and to deal with this common issue
26:22
Speaker 2: that many people have as the age, which is the
26:24
Speaker 2: under eye circles. I have them myself, the dark puffyness.
26:28
Speaker 2: And then a C sixty anti gravity serum which is
26:32
Speaker 2: designed Both of them are designed to work into your
26:34
Speaker 2: existing skin care protocol but just supplement it. But the
26:40
Speaker 2: anti gravity serum is really intended to help with the luminosity,
26:44
Speaker 2: the youthfulness, the vibrant look of the skin itself. And
26:50
Speaker 2: for any of your male listeners out there, when I
26:55
Speaker 2: say this, I'm talking about my business partner, Ken, I'm
26:58
Speaker 2: talking about my husband, I'm talking about my brothers, many
27:02
Speaker 2: men that I know, the thought about having a very
27:08
Speaker 2: intense skincare protocol is just not something that they want
27:13
Speaker 2: to do. They want it simple, easy, clear to the point.
27:17
Speaker 2: And so these two products are great if you don't
27:20
Speaker 2: have a protocol already, just to start with serum in
27:23
Speaker 2: the morning. I cream in the morning and you can
27:27
Speaker 2: also you know, have a little bit around the area
27:30
Speaker 2: of the lips where you get tiny micro lines. The
27:34
Speaker 2: I cream works there really well too.
27:36
Speaker 1: I'm so happy you're talking about this just one. I'm
27:39
Speaker 1: a great testimonial for you because I've been using the
27:43
Speaker 1: product now for since I since I met Chaz at Radfest,
27:47
Speaker 1: so that's since September, and I just ran out actually,
27:51
Speaker 1: but I used it very, very sparingly, so I was
27:54
Speaker 1: able to make it last from September until February. But
28:00
Speaker 1: I did exactly what you said. I put it a
28:02
Speaker 1: little bit right around the eyes, then a little bit
28:04
Speaker 1: around the lips, and the I cream and then the
28:08
Speaker 1: serum I would just slather over the rest of my
28:12
Speaker 1: face and neck. So I can vouch for the products everybody,
28:16
Speaker 1: because they do work. And then you can use it,
28:19
Speaker 1: like just just said, you can use it with your
28:21
Speaker 1: other skincare. So I was using niacinamide and zinc and
28:26
Speaker 1: vitamin C and all, you know, but I knew I
28:29
Speaker 1: was getting the copper peptide, so I didn't have to
28:31
Speaker 1: add copper. And copper, by the way, is great for
28:35
Speaker 1: healing in case you have some kind of a little
28:37
Speaker 1: breakout or a you know, cut or anything like that.
28:41
Speaker 1: So the CHK you know, product that you can inject
28:47
Speaker 1: is also good to combine with this if you want to,
28:50
Speaker 1: but you don't have to. So thank you for, you know,
28:54
Speaker 1: addressing the skincare because a lot of I actually have
28:58
Speaker 1: many male friends who do a real skincare regime as
29:02
Speaker 1: they've gotten a little bit older. But you're right, most
29:04
Speaker 1: men just want, you know, something real simple like just
29:08
Speaker 1: don't even think about it.
29:09
Speaker 2: Right, and nice thing about it. It's especially for it's
29:14
Speaker 2: simple for women too because you know, Michelle, we met
29:19
Speaker 2: at a conference, and you know, when you're packing, you're
29:22
Speaker 2: getting ready to go, you're busy, you're traveling. Sometimes it
29:26
Speaker 2: can be overwhelmed me to think, like what are all
29:28
Speaker 2: the things I'm going to bring for the next three
29:31
Speaker 2: days or five days, And oftentimes I won't take my
29:36
Speaker 2: entire skincare stack. I'll just pack these too, because it's
29:40
Speaker 2: simple and easy and I don't have to think about it,
29:42
Speaker 2: and so that's that's the really nice thing. They work
29:44
Speaker 2: well weaving them into your existing protocol.
29:50
Speaker 1: And you can keep I think they're under four ounces,
29:53
Speaker 1: they're right, two ounces each, so you can put them.
29:55
Speaker 1: I only carry on, so I just started in my
29:59
Speaker 1: carry on and no problem with KESA, so you're absolutely right.
30:03
Speaker 1: They're very easy to transport. I did get one of
30:05
Speaker 1: the bigger bottles. What is that one called.
30:09
Speaker 2: The C sixty skin, and then we have a C
30:13
Speaker 2: sixty Sexy which is ediblesage.
30:16
Speaker 1: Well.
30:16
Speaker 2: C sixty skin is really nice. It comes in a
30:18
Speaker 2: big bottle. This one's three ounces, so you could carry
30:23
Speaker 2: this on the other the other ones are one ounce,
30:26
Speaker 2: so those are very easy to carry on. But we
30:30
Speaker 2: have this in a roller ball too. So the really
30:32
Speaker 2: nice thing with C sixty skin is if you have
30:35
Speaker 2: a problem area. Uh, it could be a dry, flaky skin,
30:41
Speaker 2: some issue where you have a wound where it won't heal.
30:44
Speaker 2: You know, something that you keep picking at, or something
30:46
Speaker 2: that's bothering you. C sixty skin is really great to
30:50
Speaker 2: apply topically to promote healing. And if you have even
30:54
Speaker 2: if you have a bug bite that's it chy, you
30:56
Speaker 2: can apply it on there and you will well you
31:00
Speaker 2: should notice that the itch sensation goes away in a
31:03
Speaker 2: short amount of time. It's also really great to apply
31:05
Speaker 2: after too much sun. As I mentioned earlier, I'm fair
31:09
Speaker 2: and I kind of have a bad habit. Sometimes I'll
31:11
Speaker 2: be out in my garden working on something and I
31:14
Speaker 2: forget how long I'm in the sun, and then I
31:16
Speaker 2: come in and I'm a little bit too pink. If
31:17
Speaker 2: I'm afraid I'm going to burn, I apply it topically.
31:20
Speaker 2: It soaks into the skin really nicely and in a
31:23
Speaker 2: very short amount of time. Nine times out of ten
31:27
Speaker 2: I've prevented appealing situation because six he's going to go
31:30
Speaker 2: ahead and neutralize that oxidative stress that you got from
31:34
Speaker 2: too much exposure. Sun exposure is great, but you know,
31:37
Speaker 2: twenty thirty minutes a day is the sufficient amount to
31:40
Speaker 2: get you know, the vitamin D activation that we need.
31:43
Speaker 1: And I tell everybody you don't wear sunscreen for that
31:46
Speaker 1: twenty or thirty minutes because you're blocking the D three
31:48
Speaker 1: from getting into the skin. So coming back in and
31:52
Speaker 1: putting some of your product right on there, even though
31:56
Speaker 1: twenty or thirty minutes, most people won't burn in that time,
31:59
Speaker 1: but people like you could. And how about the melanin
32:02
Speaker 1: the brown spots that you mentioned earlier that come from
32:06
Speaker 1: you know, the ages a g e s right from
32:10
Speaker 1: from the mostly from the sun, or even from the
32:13
Speaker 1: liver that they say they call them liver spots. But
32:17
Speaker 1: how how how does the product affect or eliminate or
32:21
Speaker 1: at least diminish some of the melanin production.
32:27
Speaker 2: See lessening for me personally. Until they're all gone, I'm
32:32
Speaker 2: gonna I'm going to keep working on on a cure
32:34
Speaker 2: for it or as a solution. I shouldn't use the
32:37
Speaker 2: word cure. That's a problem, but I want to be
32:40
Speaker 2: since I've said it. C sixty doesn't, uh, you know,
32:43
Speaker 2: cure or mitigate or prevent any disease. What it does
32:47
Speaker 2: do is it helps neutralize that oxidative stress and that
32:52
Speaker 2: inflammation which can contribute to those diseases kicking on. And
32:56
Speaker 2: the cool thing is my I apologize. My Internet was
32:59
Speaker 2: acting a little bit squirrely when you were talking about
33:02
Speaker 2: the DNA test that you did, so I had some breakup.
33:04
Speaker 1: On my end.
33:05
Speaker 2: But I love that you've interviewed you know, Tracy Wood
33:08
Speaker 2: from the DNA company. She's a good friend of mine actually,
33:11
Speaker 2: and I love the work that they're doing because to
33:14
Speaker 2: what you said earlier, when you understand, you know your
33:17
Speaker 2: genetic makeup, what you've inherited from your parents, and you
33:22
Speaker 2: understand the the diseases that you're predisposed to, but you're
33:27
Speaker 2: very intentional about your lifestyle choices you can get in
33:32
Speaker 2: front of all those things. Those diseases don't have to
33:34
Speaker 2: turn on just because you've inherited them. If your if
33:38
Speaker 2: your lifestyle is one where you're focused on you know,
33:40
Speaker 2: clean living and you're regularly detoxing, and you're taking care
33:44
Speaker 2: of your body, and you're focused on your gut health,
33:46
Speaker 2: and you're eating clean and you're getting exercise and sleep
33:50
Speaker 2: and water and you know, proper sunshine. We don't we
33:54
Speaker 2: don't have to have the fate of disease ease. We
34:00
Speaker 2: can sidestep disease, and it's really important to do that.
34:05
Speaker 2: So's that's the exciting time about where we're at right
34:08
Speaker 2: now in our life and on the planet. Right now,
34:11
Speaker 2: there's going to be so many new inventions and discoveries
34:14
Speaker 2: coming out in this space to help people with longevity.
34:18
Speaker 2: And the reality is most people on the planet have
34:20
Speaker 2: not heard about C sixty. We are in the pre
34:22
Speaker 2: early adopter phase. Even though it was discovered in the
34:26
Speaker 2: mid eighties. Even though it's been nearly twenty years since
34:29
Speaker 2: the scientists who discovered it won a Nobel Prize, most
34:32
Speaker 2: people do not know about it. So, Michelle, you were
34:34
Speaker 2: one hundred percent on like the leading edge of the
34:37
Speaker 2: tip of the sphere of all things longevity and wellness
34:40
Speaker 2: because most people do not know about it.
34:42
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting that you say that because one
34:44
Speaker 1: of the questions that I was, again, I have all
34:47
Speaker 1: these burning questions for you, but one of them was,
34:50
Speaker 1: why is it that everybody I've asked has never heard
34:53
Speaker 1: of C sixty until I ask them and tell them
34:56
Speaker 1: what it is? So what do you think is the
34:59
Speaker 1: information app that has caused twenty years to pass? Since
35:03
Speaker 1: you know, and a Nobel Prize is not an insignificant award,
35:07
Speaker 1: so you know, why is it that more people haven't
35:10
Speaker 1: Like they all know about vitamin A and E and
35:13
Speaker 1: all the antioxidants, but not C sixty. So obviously you
35:17
Speaker 1: have a mission, uh, that's very clear to get the
35:20
Speaker 1: word out and get people to understand it's benefits. It's
35:24
Speaker 1: amazing benefits. But what what do you think is held
35:27
Speaker 1: back the information from getting to the consumer that it's
35:32
Speaker 1: not just like an ABC of of your supplement regimen.
35:37
Speaker 2: I think there's a there's a few things. Number one,
35:39
Speaker 2: there's a lot of noise, right, like, how do you
35:42
Speaker 2: get a fairly complex and you know, dense concept out
35:49
Speaker 2: into the mainstream. You know, most people self included, don't
35:53
Speaker 2: have a very you know, robust background in chemistry. So
35:57
Speaker 2: if you're going to talk about something that's novel new, uh,
36:01
Speaker 2: most scientists know about C sixty. The nickname for this
36:05
Speaker 2: molecule is a buckey ball. Most scientists know that.
36:08
Speaker 1: But is that because of Buckminster Fuller and yeah, yeah,
36:12
Speaker 1: and his influence at the very beginning.
36:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he had theorized that it must exist, and
36:18
Speaker 2: he was the inventor of geodesic domes, you know, another
36:21
Speaker 2: real estate person, right, and so the scientists named it
36:25
Speaker 2: after him in honor of his visioning around it. He
36:28
Speaker 2: didn't know that it would exist or when it would discover.
36:31
Speaker 2: He just thought that it would. And how does he
36:34
Speaker 2: know that, I don't know. But it's it's a fun
36:37
Speaker 2: it's a fun little nod towards him. But like with
36:40
Speaker 2: anything in life, if it works, it's probably going to
36:43
Speaker 2: be suppressed. Yeah, So there's a fair amount of suppression.
36:47
Speaker 2: There's a fair amount of I would say, larger agendas
36:52
Speaker 2: to kind of keep the message down. There's a there's
36:54
Speaker 2: a bit of that. We also in the industry at large,
36:59
Speaker 2: there's challenges because similar to you know what happened with CBD.
37:06
Speaker 2: You know, fifteen years ago people wouldn't know about it,
37:08
Speaker 2: and then parents got the idea, gosh, maybe it can
37:11
Speaker 2: help with seizures. Maybe maybe it's going to be beneficial
37:15
Speaker 2: to my my dog or my kid who's struggling with seizures.
37:18
Speaker 2: And now today you can find it in a gas
37:20
Speaker 2: station pretty much anywhere in America. But as you might recall,
37:27
Speaker 2: as people started to learn about it, there was like
37:31
Speaker 2: influx of all these people, i'll call it, like they
37:33
Speaker 2: think it's a gold rush. They want to get in
37:35
Speaker 2: the space. Their intention is not to produce the best product.
37:42
Speaker 2: Their intention is to make some money. So we're challenged
37:45
Speaker 2: with in getting the good word out is that there's
37:48
Speaker 2: a fair amount of people that are selling product either
37:51
Speaker 2: with there's no C sixty in it, or subpar C
37:54
Speaker 2: sixty or C sixty that's not actually safe for good
37:56
Speaker 2: or shouldn't be used. And then that that's a challenge
38:04
Speaker 2: because if let's say a person tries it, but they
38:08
Speaker 2: buy a product that there's just activated charcoal in it,
38:11
Speaker 2: not even C sixty, they don't have the experience that
38:13
Speaker 2: they expected. They're going to write it off permanently.
38:17
Speaker 1: You know, the lot of Charlatan's was you know the
38:21
Speaker 1: story of imitation is the best form of flattery, but
38:23
Speaker 1: in this case, no imitation is actually a causative for
38:30
Speaker 1: diminished acceptance because there's too many people that get burned
38:33
Speaker 1: by choose the wrong products. So I'm glad you're bringing
38:37
Speaker 1: this up because it was another area I wanted to
38:40
Speaker 1: get into. What do you what is it about C
38:44
Speaker 1: sixty that makes it the most efficacious? And the three
38:48
Speaker 1: carrier oils, of course I want you to talk about
38:51
Speaker 1: in conjunction with that, and why they are the ones
38:54
Speaker 1: that you selected and what makes them the best ones,
38:57
Speaker 1: and also what differentiates MCT coconut oil from olive oil
39:03
Speaker 1: from avocado oil. So get into the issue of you know,
39:06
Speaker 1: I know you have a like ninety nine percent of
39:09
Speaker 1: your product ninety ninety five, right percent? Is the molecule.
39:18
Speaker 2: For your for your audience out there. The thing to
39:22
Speaker 2: really look for is just, you know, is quality regardless
39:25
Speaker 2: of what type of products you buy from anybody anywhere.
39:28
Speaker 2: We utilize third party testing. Yeah, you know, some people
39:32
Speaker 2: have said, why don't you test it yourself? Well, to me,
39:34
Speaker 2: that's like counting your own votes.
39:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, Okay, I don't.
39:37
Speaker 2: I don't want to test something that I created. I
39:41
Speaker 2: want somebody else, a third party lab to test it,
39:44
Speaker 2: poke holes in it and come back to me and
39:46
Speaker 2: tell me if there's anything wrong. I want somebody, I
39:48
Speaker 2: want a third party who's not me, to monkey with that,
39:51
Speaker 2: because if if somebody was in house monkey with results,
39:54
Speaker 2: that would be a problem. So first of all, you
39:57
Speaker 2: want to look for third party testing. The next thing
39:59
Speaker 2: is you want to look for ninety nine point nine
40:02
Speaker 2: nine percent pure C sixty. We use sublimated C sixty,
40:06
Speaker 2: which is a different process, and I would liken it
40:09
Speaker 2: to uh evaporation in the lab where there's no toxic
40:13
Speaker 2: solvents involved. Some some groups use that and then they
40:16
Speaker 2: bake it off.
40:17
Speaker 1: We don't.
40:18
Speaker 2: We don't do that. So it's more expensive to manufacture.
40:22
Speaker 2: So you want to look for that, and then you
40:23
Speaker 2: want to make sure that it's in a healthy carrier oil.
40:26
Speaker 2: Now I've had people at conferences come up to me
40:30
Speaker 2: and they've said, oh, hey, I've got C sixty in
40:32
Speaker 2: this vabe. You know there's there's groups that are saying, oh,
40:36
Speaker 2: it's you know, you could put it in this and
40:38
Speaker 2: you can inhale it or this is wrong, this is
40:42
Speaker 2: you can't. So if somebody's selling you a product that
40:45
Speaker 2: you're going to inhale into your lungs, I would I
40:47
Speaker 2: would say, you know, buyer beware, Uh like b B
40:52
Speaker 2: B beware, but uh you want to you want to
40:56
Speaker 2: make sure that you're consuming oils that are healthy. There's
40:59
Speaker 2: a fair amount of information. I'm so excited about this
41:02
Speaker 2: because I think this is a game changer for people,
41:05
Speaker 2: is to stop consuming seed oils or vegetable oils. And
41:08
Speaker 2: this is very hard if you're traveling, if you go
41:11
Speaker 2: out to eat a lot, if you're a foody, you know,
41:12
Speaker 2: every restaurant that you go to, nine times out of
41:15
Speaker 2: ten they're gonna use canola or they'll say we use
41:18
Speaker 2: olive oil, but it's a blend with canola in it.
41:20
Speaker 2: And you're like, yeah, don't do that, you know, because
41:23
Speaker 2: we want to be fighting inflammation. We don't. We want
41:26
Speaker 2: to be eating anti inflammatory foods. So the reason why
41:30
Speaker 2: we have C sixty delivered in a carrier oil. I'm
41:34
Speaker 2: holding up a big bottle of organic MCT coconut oil
41:38
Speaker 2: here is that it's it's it needs to be dissolved
41:40
Speaker 2: fully into an oil. And so the MCT coconut oil
41:46
Speaker 2: is a really great choice for athletes. You can get
41:49
Speaker 2: you know, ketones from it, and I personally love it
41:52
Speaker 2: in my coffee. That being said, it's a medium chain
41:55
Speaker 2: tried glyceride and the oil itself holds a little bit
42:00
Speaker 2: less Sea sixty than avocado oil and olive oil because
42:04
Speaker 2: of the structure. Now you might be like, oh, well
42:07
Speaker 2: then I probably need to take more than you can
42:11
Speaker 2: if you want, but Sea sixty is good.
42:13
Speaker 1: You can get a.
42:14
Speaker 2: Spoonful of mcta oil or a spoonful of avocado oil. Sorry,
42:19
Speaker 2: I have a green screen, so this isn't gonna show
42:21
Speaker 2: up so well because it's green. But avocado oil is
42:26
Speaker 2: wonderful for people who who are new to SEE sixty
42:31
Speaker 2: who might not be used to consuming healthy oils. It's
42:35
Speaker 2: the easiest one to digest, So if you have any
42:38
Speaker 2: gut health issues that you're dealing with and you're working
42:43
Speaker 2: through the all, the avocado oil is the easiest. And
42:47
Speaker 2: then we have it in a really delicious peppery extra
42:55
Speaker 2: virgin olive oil as well. I really love this extra
43:00
Speaker 2: version olive oil. If I'm intermittent fasting, if I break
43:05
Speaker 2: my fast, let's say at lunch or maybe three o'clock,
43:07
Speaker 2: and I have, you know, a salad with some veggies
43:09
Speaker 2: and some protein on it. I will drizzle this on
43:12
Speaker 2: my salad. And I don't know if I've told you this, Michelle,
43:16
Speaker 2: I don't think that I have. My husband has lime disease,
43:19
Speaker 2: and so we've been on a detox and wellness journey
43:22
Speaker 2: for several years really to try to mitigate any type
43:28
Speaker 2: of lime flare up. And so that has us both
43:32
Speaker 2: on a very strict diet of you know, clean lean
43:37
Speaker 2: proteins and oxalate low oxalate vegetables. And I've gotten to
43:44
Speaker 2: the point where I really only just use our olive
43:49
Speaker 2: oil and I make my own I make my own
43:52
Speaker 2: salad dressings with it. I need very very little dressing
43:55
Speaker 2: to dull something up. But we also have a cinnamon
44:01
Speaker 2: flavored made with organic cinnamon isolates MCT coconut oil. So
44:08
Speaker 2: this is amazing. And coffee in the morning. You can
44:10
Speaker 2: just leave this by your coffee pot. And with any
44:12
Speaker 2: of these oils, Michelle, all you do is just to
44:14
Speaker 2: have a spoonful of it in the morning. You can
44:16
Speaker 2: take it with or without food. You can put it
44:19
Speaker 2: in a coffee tea smoothie. You know, a lot of
44:23
Speaker 2: people now are starting to understand a little bit about
44:27
Speaker 2: hydrogen water, which is also an antioxidant, and you can
44:32
Speaker 2: take C sixty with your hydrogen water, whether it's out
44:35
Speaker 2: of a can or you can take a hydrogen water
44:38
Speaker 2: pill and drink your C sixty at the same time.
44:40
Speaker 2: The two are kind of like peanut butter and chocolate.
44:43
Speaker 2: They go really well together, and that hydrogen water can
44:46
Speaker 2: help kind of supercharge your C sixty experience. You can
44:50
Speaker 2: also get the same type of experience if you take
44:52
Speaker 2: C sixty at the same time that you're eating an apple,
44:54
Speaker 2: which is kind of like another little hack that you
44:58
Speaker 2: can do and out. What I like to do is
45:02
Speaker 2: oil in the morning before my other supplements, and then
45:05
Speaker 2: I take my other supplements, and then in the afternoon,
45:08
Speaker 2: if it's two three o'clock, if I start to feel
45:10
Speaker 2: a little bit of a lull and energy or I need,
45:13
Speaker 2: you know, maybe I have dinner plans at six or
45:15
Speaker 2: seven and it's going to be a while. If I
45:17
Speaker 2: get hungry, I'll have a C sixty gummy. These are
45:20
Speaker 2: made with whole coconut oil. I'm under the impression that
45:23
Speaker 2: you've you've had a few of these. Yeah, I think
45:25
Speaker 2: they're pretty tasty. We've got a sugar free and a
45:28
Speaker 2: regular version, which the regular just has three grams of sugar,
45:30
Speaker 2: so it won't it won't wreck your day if you
45:33
Speaker 2: have one.
45:34
Speaker 1: You know, just those have been my savior because I
45:37
Speaker 1: travel a lot, and I'm just letting everybody know you
45:40
Speaker 1: shouldn't be without those because one they give you an
45:43
Speaker 1: energy boost. Two there's no sugar if you buy the
45:47
Speaker 1: the SF version, right you just talked about, And they
45:51
Speaker 1: taste really really good. I mean sometimes you want a
45:53
Speaker 1: little sweet something and you don't want to eat a
45:57
Speaker 1: sweet you know a lot of sugar in it. So
45:59
Speaker 1: this is a real great, a very good substitute. Plus
46:02
Speaker 1: you're getting all your C sixty in one really good,
46:06
Speaker 1: flavorful dough. So I love that. And I actually your
46:11
Speaker 1: wonderful assistant, Divina has just sent me. She's sending me
46:17
Speaker 1: a couple of boxes. So I'm going to be good
46:19
Speaker 1: for until I hope for a couple of months here
46:21
Speaker 1: because I do try to take about one a day
46:23
Speaker 1: even when i'm home, like you just said, even if
46:26
Speaker 1: I'm not traveling, I'll do the oils in the morning,
46:29
Speaker 1: just like you said, and then one end in the
46:31
Speaker 1: afternoon gives you that little boose. I had a question
46:34
Speaker 1: on the You have a dropper in one of the ones.
46:41
Speaker 1: I think it's the MCT, the small one. It has
46:44
Speaker 1: a dropper bottle, but the other ones do not, the
46:47
Speaker 1: bigger ones. Is it okay if you take the dropper
46:50
Speaker 1: bottle the dropper apparatus and just put that into the
46:55
Speaker 1: other ones and just take two of those, is that
46:58
Speaker 1: equal to about a teaspoon. I've never actually ghosted, but
47:02
Speaker 1: the dropper bottle is really convenient, and it's in the
47:05
Speaker 1: MCT only in the small one.
47:10
Speaker 2: All of our flavors come with the two ounce bottle.
47:13
Speaker 2: These were intentionally designed for travel. So to your point,
47:18
Speaker 2: they're intentionally designed for travel. The problem is is if
47:22
Speaker 2: somebody buys just this bottle and they think that this
47:26
Speaker 2: is enough to experience it, the reality is you really
47:28
Speaker 2: need to try C sixty for about thirty days daily
47:33
Speaker 2: in order to get there. You need a little bit
47:35
Speaker 2: more than a dropper. You need about two to get
47:37
Speaker 2: you your full serving, and this is about a week
47:40
Speaker 2: and a half two weeks serving size. The four ounce bottle,
47:46
Speaker 2: which is the size is closer to a month. The
47:50
Speaker 2: eight ounce bottle is if you were going to try
47:53
Speaker 2: the product and you wanted to know does it work
47:56
Speaker 2: for me, get the a ounce bottle. Give it at
47:58
Speaker 2: least that whole bottle opportunity to get through it to
48:01
Speaker 2: make sure it works. The other thing I'll say to
48:04
Speaker 2: Michelle is that the gummies they're great for travel. You know,
48:07
Speaker 2: when you're getting exposure to radiation from laptop, cell phone,
48:12
Speaker 2: you go through the scanner at the airport. I always
48:14
Speaker 2: opt out and just say no thanks to go through
48:16
Speaker 2: pre check. But you're having radiation exposure on the airplane too,
48:20
Speaker 2: the high you know, elevations thirty thousand feet where you know,
48:25
Speaker 2: wherever we're flying, it's really important to you know, pack
48:29
Speaker 2: some gummies in your bag so you can neutralize that
48:33
Speaker 2: oxidative stress. We also have a We also have a
48:36
Speaker 2: sixteen ounce bottle which is larger.
48:38
Speaker 1: So if you're.
48:39
Speaker 2: Somebody who wants to, you know, have enough of a
48:43
Speaker 2: supply for three months, the sixteen ounce bottle is most
48:47
Speaker 2: appropriate for that.
48:49
Speaker 1: That's what I have a big one and I just
48:51
Speaker 1: take the little one the dropper and I put it
48:54
Speaker 1: into the big one and that way, I take a
48:57
Speaker 1: couple of droppers full of the different oils, so I get,
49:02
Speaker 1: you know, all three oils in one day. I don't
49:04
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the right thing to do,
49:06
Speaker 1: but I try to, you know, mix it up or
49:09
Speaker 1: I'll do, you know, the olive oil one day and
49:11
Speaker 1: the avocado the next day, and the MCT another day.
49:15
Speaker 1: And so they're staggered. But it doesn't seem to matter
49:20
Speaker 1: what carrier oil you're using, although you said earlier the
49:23
Speaker 1: MCT has less of the C sixty in it, but
49:26
Speaker 1: it's also good for athletes, and I'm an athlete, so
49:29
Speaker 1: I like to use it that way as well.
49:33
Speaker 2: Flavor choice, you know, it's like, what what's your preference?
49:35
Speaker 2: But to your point, you use all three. I use
49:38
Speaker 2: all three different times. You know, I really like the
49:40
Speaker 2: coconut in my coffee. If I feel like I'm getting
49:44
Speaker 2: a tickle in my throat, if I if I'm you know,
49:47
Speaker 2: coming off of a you know, in an experience where
49:49
Speaker 2: I've been around a lot of people traveling and I
49:53
Speaker 2: just want to you know, boost my immune system. I'm
49:56
Speaker 2: going to take a couple of spoonfuls of the avocado
49:58
Speaker 2: oil and like I said, I love of the olive
50:00
Speaker 2: oil uh with with food in Michelle. And if you
50:05
Speaker 2: want to see the third party testing when you get
50:07
Speaker 2: our products, you can just scan the QR code and
50:11
Speaker 2: it will go to the test that is connected to
50:16
Speaker 2: your particular products. You can always see that, so you're
50:18
Speaker 2: gonna want to make sure that it's high quality. Check
50:21
Speaker 2: out the websites, like can you figure out who owns
50:24
Speaker 2: the company? Who's behind it? If it's just like a
50:26
Speaker 2: bunch of blanketed, you know, AI written copy and you
50:31
Speaker 2: can't figure out who's connected to the company, it's probably
50:34
Speaker 2: an indication that they may or may not know what
50:37
Speaker 2: they're doing. But you're gonna you're gonna want to just
50:39
Speaker 2: keep your eyes open and you always want to have
50:41
Speaker 2: it in a healthy oil. Do not buy any type
50:44
Speaker 2: of C sixty in sunflower oil, Like if somebody's selling that,
50:48
Speaker 2: just just just walk away. But look for look for
50:51
Speaker 2: third party testing. I think that's that's really important.
50:54
Speaker 1: So people who order their supplements on Amazon, they need
50:58
Speaker 1: to be really buy or beware because there are many
51:01
Speaker 1: counterfeit companies that are selling under They would even have
51:05
Speaker 1: your label copied and look like you're you and yet
51:09
Speaker 1: in that. So first of all, that GMP the you know,
51:14
Speaker 1: the insignia on a bottle is crucial. I won't buy
51:18
Speaker 1: a bottle of anything unless it has the gmbp icon. Yeah.
51:24
Speaker 1: And then secondly, on Amazon, if I am going to
51:26
Speaker 1: order there, I go to make sure they have a
51:28
Speaker 1: website that goes right to the company. So this is
51:32
Speaker 1: just a buyer beware to everybody. Don't just buy a
51:35
Speaker 1: product because it says the company name, it could be
51:38
Speaker 1: a counterfeit. Right. And actually, my good friend at Calroy,
51:41
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know ed Hooy, but we
51:44
Speaker 1: were on the phone the other day and Calroy is
51:47
Speaker 1: a you know, cardiovascular supplement company and they he was
51:51
Speaker 1: telling me they have purchased a special service on Amazon
51:59
Speaker 1: that protect them and he said, you're just pretty expensive.
52:03
Speaker 1: But they he said, that's the way they eliminate any counterfeit.
52:06
Speaker 1: But they did have a number of people that made
52:08
Speaker 1: a product that looked just like them. It's amazing.
52:12
Speaker 2: It's a it's a wild space to be in because
52:15
Speaker 2: the amount of people, whether in e commerce or you
52:19
Speaker 2: want to call it supplements, it's it's literally the wild West.
52:23
Speaker 2: The amount of people that operate out of integrity is
52:26
Speaker 2: more common than not. So yeah, buyers, buyer beware. Do
52:32
Speaker 2: you do your due diligence, do your homework right.
52:36
Speaker 1: So I had another question for you. We talked about
52:39
Speaker 1: the glue decion. What are the other antioxidants that you
52:44
Speaker 1: consider to be the partners for C sixty in terms
52:47
Speaker 1: of eliminating R O S oxidative stress.
52:54
Speaker 2: Well, that's a good question. I really kind of consider
52:59
Speaker 2: C sixty to be a gateway antioxidant, honestly, because most
53:02
Speaker 2: people don't even most people don't know what an antioxidant is.
53:07
Speaker 2: So you know, the thing is with C sixty it's
53:12
Speaker 2: just the most powerful because it can reset itself again
53:16
Speaker 2: and again, and it's hundreds of times more powerful than
53:19
Speaker 2: like a vitamin C. And the thing, as I mentioned
53:21
Speaker 2: before that kind of differentiates it is that there's no
53:25
Speaker 2: toxicity at any level. So if you took an extreme
53:27
Speaker 2: amount of vitamin E, you could really hurt yourself, you
53:30
Speaker 2: could die. You know that's not gonna happen with C sixty. Now,
53:34
Speaker 2: if you drink, you know, half of this bottle of MCT,
53:38
Speaker 2: you were gonna probably have disaster pants because of the oil.
53:42
Speaker 2: But it's not because of the C sixty and it's
53:44
Speaker 2: certainly not going to kill you. So in terms of
53:46
Speaker 2: the partner antioxidants, you know, gluted thione, sod catalase, co
53:52
Speaker 2: Q ten, those are all important when we're thinking about
53:56
Speaker 2: you know, vitamins and other supplements that are important and
53:59
Speaker 2: take we've all learned through the last few years, you know,
54:02
Speaker 2: D three, K two together, a balanced zinc. These are
54:05
Speaker 2: really important just to keep your immune system strong, making
54:09
Speaker 2: sure your magnesium level is high and balanced and appropriate.
54:13
Speaker 2: And the way that you would know this is by testing.
54:15
Speaker 2: You've got to have a you know, a provider that
54:19
Speaker 2: you're working with that understands what your goals are for
54:22
Speaker 2: your own health journey. As I mentioned before, my husband
54:25
Speaker 2: is you know, working through a mind disease situation, and
54:28
Speaker 2: so making sure that he's not having any kind of
54:32
Speaker 2: upset is important for us. For me personally at age
54:37
Speaker 2: forty eight, for the last few years, I've been navigating
54:40
Speaker 2: through the fun experience of all things perimenopause, and we've
54:45
Speaker 2: also been on a fertility journey which has been interesting
54:47
Speaker 2: late in life. So it's really just important for you
54:52
Speaker 2: to have clarity around like what are your primary goals,
54:55
Speaker 2: what are you trying to accomplish, but you know, working
54:57
Speaker 2: with a provider who can help you test regularly and
55:01
Speaker 2: also somebody who understands how to help support you with
55:05
Speaker 2: your hormonal journey because as we age, and anytime we're
55:08
Speaker 2: over the age of forty, we're gonna start running into
55:10
Speaker 2: some challenges. And you know, I'm not about to, you know,
55:15
Speaker 2: give advice, because I'm not a doctor and that's not
55:18
Speaker 2: what I'm here to do. But I would definitely say,
55:20
Speaker 2: just from my own experience, that having a provider, a
55:24
Speaker 2: functional medicine provider who understands you, is aligned with you,
55:28
Speaker 2: and can help you as you navigate that is great.
55:31
Speaker 2: It's really important because we all deserve to feel good,
55:34
Speaker 2: we all deserve to have enough energy, and we all
55:37
Speaker 2: have an important mission on this planet and the world
55:40
Speaker 2: needs us more than ever, and so it's our personal
55:43
Speaker 2: responsibility to take back control of our health. It's our
55:46
Speaker 2: personal responsility responsibility to do research on all the things
55:51
Speaker 2: that we're consuming and to make decisions as consumers around
55:56
Speaker 2: products that are going to be supportive to our life,
56:00
Speaker 2: lifespan and the quality of our life. So we can
56:02
Speaker 2: continue to do that and enjoy, you know, as much
56:05
Speaker 2: joy and happiness on the planets that we're willing to
56:08
Speaker 2: take on and to co create with our with our
56:10
Speaker 2: friends and our family.
56:11
Speaker 1: That is so beautifully said. But you know, the body
56:14
Speaker 1: mind spirit, I mean, if you think of it as
56:16
Speaker 1: that triumvirate of those three, and how do you get
56:20
Speaker 1: to that level of homeostasis of feeling feeling? Really like
56:24
Speaker 1: as doctor Amy Horneman said, and she was on my podcast,
56:28
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know her, but she's the thyroid.
56:30
Speaker 2: One of my she's one of my best friends.
56:32
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, we have so many people in common.
56:34
Speaker 1: This is wonderful jest well, Amy said, the biggest question,
56:40
Speaker 1: or the biggest test is how do you feel? And
56:43
Speaker 1: you know you don't even I mean, you can go
56:46
Speaker 1: to a functional medicine doctor, and absolutely you should have
56:49
Speaker 1: that doctor as your partner in your healthcare journey because
56:54
Speaker 1: you know, you're not a medical You or I or
56:57
Speaker 1: any of the people listening today are probably not medical doctors.
57:00
Speaker 1: They're consumers and they're wanting to have the best answers.
57:04
Speaker 1: So you do need a partner in that for sure,
57:07
Speaker 1: who has been trained. And you know, but one of
57:09
Speaker 1: the things that I thought was so cool when she
57:12
Speaker 1: said it was, you know, you can go do all
57:14
Speaker 1: the lab tests you want, but lab tests don't always
57:17
Speaker 1: tell you everything you need to know. You can get
57:19
Speaker 1: a normal thyroid result and still feel crappy because you're
57:25
Speaker 1: with your hair, or you have cold hands and feet
57:28
Speaker 1: or all, you know, whatever the Hashimoto symptoms are that
57:32
Speaker 1: are so prevalent with on so many people, but it's
57:34
Speaker 1: so underdiagnosed. So your point is really well taken, and
57:39
Speaker 1: you and I, both being slow methylaters, are at least
57:42
Speaker 1: knowing that we have challenges genetically don't even need to
57:46
Speaker 1: go to a test to tell us. We know we
57:50
Speaker 1: have to be diligent about using products like C sixty
57:55
Speaker 1: to eliminate oxidative stress. And if you ask how you
57:59
Speaker 1: feel well, you're going to feel a lot happy, a
58:01
Speaker 1: lot better when doing that than if you don't do it.
58:04
Speaker 1: So that's you know, the litmus test is how do
58:07
Speaker 1: you feel exactly? Just question quickly, has your husband been
58:12
Speaker 1: able to handle and overcome the line by the protocol
58:17
Speaker 1: you've been doing mican would.
58:19
Speaker 2: We are at about six months right now where he
58:22
Speaker 2: hasn't had a flare up, so we're kind of considering
58:24
Speaker 2: this remission. For many, many years we didn't.
58:27
Speaker 1: Know what it was.
58:28
Speaker 2: It would affect his ocular nerves, so he could lose
58:30
Speaker 2: his vision, and that's what would happen. He would lose
58:34
Speaker 2: his vision for a period of time. So that's a
58:37
Speaker 2: terrifying experience for anybody to go through, and especially when
58:40
Speaker 2: you don't know what it actually is. But now we
58:43
Speaker 2: have clarity around it, we're working on it. The one
58:45
Speaker 2: thing I would say Michelle too that we haven't talked
58:47
Speaker 2: about that I think is important just in general, on
58:49
Speaker 2: the detox journey is like working to you know, get
58:52
Speaker 2: your heavy metals out, but it's also really going after parasites.
58:56
Speaker 2: So working with somebody that understands that. In my own life,
59:00
Speaker 2: I've had to fire, you know, doctor after doctor because
59:03
Speaker 2: I would come in with questions or ideas or insights,
59:07
Speaker 2: and unfortunately, sometimes you know, once they once they graduate,
59:12
Speaker 2: they're not going to try to keep up and they're
59:14
Speaker 2: not necessarily going to try to be offering you solutions
59:18
Speaker 2: that don't come with a prescription. And I'm just in
59:20
Speaker 2: the camp my whole life. I've been where I want
59:22
Speaker 2: a natural solution and I've spent most of my time
59:25
Speaker 2: trying to figure that out. And so I will say,
59:28
Speaker 2: I've upset some doctors in the past because of my
59:32
Speaker 2: own knowledge and research, and then they don't want to
59:34
Speaker 2: support that. But it's important to find somebody who will
59:36
Speaker 2: align with you and wants to help you move forward.
59:39
Speaker 2: There's plenty of people out there. You might just have
59:40
Speaker 2: to do some digging to get there.
59:42
Speaker 1: Though I've always docted. How few doctors ask you to
59:45
Speaker 1: do heavy metals detox or kylation and you know, just
59:50
Speaker 1: using IVS or kelation therapy to get rid of them.
59:54
Speaker 1: But there are other ways you can do it too,
59:55
Speaker 1: And certainly I eat cilantro all the time now because
59:59
Speaker 1: I know that it's just a food based way to
1:00:04
Speaker 1: minimize or at least maybe even reduce or eliminate. Probably
1:00:08
Speaker 1: not eliminate because it's not probably not as strong as
1:00:11
Speaker 1: you need to get in the chelation process, but heavy
1:00:15
Speaker 1: metals and then you know the EMFs and the parasites
1:00:19
Speaker 1: and all those toxicities that were surrounded with in our
1:00:24
Speaker 1: even our water, you know, and and buying grass fed beef,
1:00:29
Speaker 1: for example, because you don't want to be eating all
1:00:31
Speaker 1: those horrible nutrients that they feed the cows to make
1:00:36
Speaker 1: them fatter. So all of that stuff is all about
1:00:40
Speaker 1: you know, the big umbrella of detox, and of course
1:00:44
Speaker 1: you fit really prominently in that umbrella, but you need
1:00:47
Speaker 1: to do all these other things to be partners with
1:00:52
Speaker 1: what you're doing with C sixty. Well, they just oh,
1:00:55
Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead. You want to say something.
1:00:59
Speaker 2: It's an antioxidant, it's not a drug, and it is
1:01:01
Speaker 2: a very powerful antioxident. But it's not the only thing.
1:01:04
Speaker 2: And so people will often say like wow, you know,
1:01:07
Speaker 2: like can I stop taking everything else? No, like number one,
1:01:10
Speaker 2: get it, you know, work with your healthcare provider. That's
1:01:13
Speaker 2: the first thing, and talk to them about it. Come
1:01:15
Speaker 2: up with your own plan, use your own brain. But
1:01:18
Speaker 2: it's not it's not the only thing to do. It's
1:01:21
Speaker 2: it's do C sixty and do these other things. But
1:01:24
Speaker 2: C sixty is going to help support and supercharge your journey,
1:01:28
Speaker 2: especially if you're doing lifestyle choices, you know. The other thing, Michelle.
1:01:32
Speaker 2: People often times that they'll say, oh, it's too expensive. Well,
1:01:36
Speaker 2: what we found with people it's it's so expensive because
1:01:39
Speaker 2: that's the cost that it is to manufacture it. It's
1:01:41
Speaker 2: extremely expensive to manufacture, and that's that is, uh, you know,
1:01:47
Speaker 2: a barrier for some people for sure. But what we
1:01:50
Speaker 2: found is for the people that feel like it's cost prohibitive,
1:01:53
Speaker 2: once they have a good experience with it, they figure
1:01:55
Speaker 2: it out. They're like, well, maybe I'm just going to
1:01:56
Speaker 2: quit my Starbucks addiction. Maybe I'll stop buying know, six
1:02:01
Speaker 2: dollars coffees every day, and I'll figure out how to
1:02:03
Speaker 2: forward C sixty. So, if you want it, if you
1:02:06
Speaker 2: end up, if energy, if fatigue is an issue for you,
1:02:11
Speaker 2: and you are like, I need some energy, I need
1:02:13
Speaker 2: some motivation, I need some mental clarity. I don't remember
1:02:15
Speaker 2: where I just put my car keys, you're probably a
1:02:18
Speaker 2: good person, you know, a good candidate to utilize and
1:02:21
Speaker 2: appreciate C sixty. If you're somebody who drinks alcohol every
1:02:25
Speaker 2: day and you eat fast food every day, this is
1:02:27
Speaker 2: not the thing for you, because you really need to
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Speaker 1: so much. I'm really hoping your husband gets better. I
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Speaker 1: at are you going to West Palm Beach and April?
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Speaker 2: I will, let's let's hang out there.
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Speaker 1: I'll come find you, all right,