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- 0:03Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
- 0:07Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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- 0:37Speaker 1: We're back, Alexis Jensen and Carlos King is here to
- 0:41Speaker 1: recap episode five of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Hey,
- 0:45Speaker 1: Alexis bou.
- 0:46Speaker 3: Thing Hello everybody, how are you? I'm good? How are
- 0:51Speaker 3: you good?
- 0:53Speaker 2: Go good and listen.
- 0:54Speaker 1: We have to get into this episode, so let's get
- 0:56Speaker 1: right into it. Alexis, we see a scene between those
- 1:03Speaker 1: intercut scene between bows Derry. I feel like it was
- 1:10Speaker 1: a third person in that rest.
- 1:12Speaker 3: O de Where where are you jumping to already?
- 1:15Speaker 4: You didn't even start on a plane, like like you're
- 1:18Speaker 4: you're passing the plane. Because here's the problem, Carlos, what
- 1:22Speaker 4: I want to know is where was there a second
- 1:25Speaker 4: private jet? Second PJA private jet that carried all of
- 1:29Speaker 4: the staff, like their their cooks, their assistants, their hair
- 1:32Speaker 4: and makeup, glam and all this, or did those people
- 1:35Speaker 4: drive and meet them there to live on the block
- 1:37Speaker 4: that they rinted out of Sedona? Or I just want
- 1:40Speaker 4: to know where these people were because we didn't see
- 1:42Speaker 4: that they were all bringing seventeen crew members. Their taxi
- 1:44Speaker 4: drivers were with them, their cooks were with everything. Was
- 1:46Speaker 4: I'm like, what that assistants walking in with donuts?
- 1:49Speaker 3: Where did those How did those people get there?
- 1:52Speaker 4: Or did they have to fly with the normal people
- 1:54Speaker 4: and then the average people on on on jets Jet
- 1:57Speaker 4: Blue or or or you know Southwest?
- 2:00Speaker 1: And then yes, if I had to take a guest,
- 2:05Speaker 1: I would say I think it was the latter. So
- 2:09Speaker 1: for example, as a producer, when you shoot, the ladies
- 2:13Speaker 1: go on private planes, Honey, Like one lucky producer, one
- 2:17Speaker 1: lucky camera person, audio gets to fly on the PJ. Honey,
- 2:22Speaker 1: the rest of us we're on the commercial flight.
- 2:25Speaker 4: You're going on Southwest, Honey, you pick your seat, it's
- 2:28Speaker 4: a six?
- 2:28Speaker 2: Yes, what do you get? So like them? And then
- 2:32Speaker 2: the glam and then.
- 2:34Speaker 4: But they brought so many for a three day Sedona.
- 2:38Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, okay, I love it. Hey, I'm all
- 2:42Speaker 4: for it. I'm here to watch it all.
- 2:44Speaker 1: I aspire to live that way myself. But that's the
- 2:49Speaker 1: beauty of watching this show because you get to see
- 2:51Speaker 1: like how the wealthy people live, you know, who are
- 2:55Speaker 1: a part of like that percentile. But what did you
- 2:59Speaker 1: think of out when you saw so? It was it
- 3:03Speaker 1: was Bulls and Derry. I want to say a third person,
- 3:05Speaker 1: I couldn't be wrong. But then it was also Kyle
- 3:09Speaker 1: and Erica, and they were talking about the conversation that
- 3:13Speaker 1: took place in last week's episode where Duriy was explaining
- 3:18Speaker 1: to Kyle all of her grievances with Pique and she
- 3:20Speaker 1: felt that Kyle was offending him. What shocked me in
- 3:25Speaker 1: that scene between Kyle and Erica was Kyle said, I
- 3:33Speaker 1: did speak to Mauricio about it. They flashed back to
- 3:37Speaker 1: a phone call she had with Mauricio, who said that, no,
- 3:42Speaker 1: that's not true. Piku is a great dad, and I've
- 3:47Speaker 1: seen text messages where he is trying to see his
- 3:51Speaker 1: children and pretty much she.
- 3:52Speaker 2: Won't let him.
- 3:55Speaker 4: I kind of felt like Erica, where it's like, Okay, Kyle,
- 3:57Speaker 4: you can't get involved. Number one number too, Carlos. It
- 4:01Speaker 4: is like, what is the true story? Like you don't
- 4:05Speaker 4: know because and the problem with going through divorce is
- 4:08Speaker 4: you really don't heal from it for three or four
- 4:09Speaker 4: more years and then you go back and reflect and go, Okay,
- 4:12Speaker 4: I was kind of doing this or I wasn't doing that,
- 4:15Speaker 4: but I I just wonder what is the real truth.
- 4:20Speaker 4: But if I'm if I'm Kyle, I am going to
- 4:23Speaker 4: try to say out of it. I don't want Maricio
- 4:25Speaker 4: to give me information. And the part that stinks is
- 4:28Speaker 4: that in a divorce, people do feel like they have
- 4:30Speaker 4: to choose sides. Some most of your like a lot
- 4:33Speaker 4: of your friends do, but I also appreciate the friends
- 4:35Speaker 4: that don't. And it's like, look, we're going to be
- 4:37Speaker 4: friends with both of you. And that's kind of where
- 4:40Speaker 4: Kyle is. Kyle's like, I don't want to be in
- 4:42Speaker 4: the middle, yet she's kind of getting thrown in the
- 4:43Speaker 4: middle because Maritio is close with Pique. But yeah, she's
- 4:47Speaker 4: just like, I don't want to be in the middle
- 4:48Speaker 4: of this, and she's stuck.
- 4:50Speaker 3: She's stuck that.
- 4:51Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna tell you why.
- 4:53Speaker 1: I strongly believe why Kyle is in the middle. Of
- 4:57Speaker 1: it and why she's choosing to, in my opinion, clear
- 5:01Speaker 1: her name.
- 5:02Speaker 2: I think Kyle has seen that Dre is trying to
- 5:13Speaker 2: not even that.
- 5:16Speaker 1: I believe that Kyle is seeing what Deitt is doing
- 5:19Speaker 1: and how Derey is trying to position.
- 5:22Speaker 2: Kyle as a PK apologist, and.
- 5:27Speaker 1: And Kyle is using the conversation she had in Mauricio
- 5:33Speaker 1: as a way of defending herself. Because listen, I have
- 5:39Speaker 1: said this for years and and I still stand by it.
- 5:41Speaker 1: I do not believe that PK likes Deriy.
- 5:44Speaker 2: Does he love her? That's the mother of his children.
- 5:46Speaker 2: He will always love her. Does he like her? No? Right?
- 5:49Speaker 1: And I give you guys my reasons, but I will
- 5:53Speaker 1: say this last year, last season, Deree, I told you
- 5:58Speaker 1: this too. She told everybody what an alcoholic he was right,
- 6:03Speaker 1: and I took that as like, Okay, she's trying to
- 6:06Speaker 1: embarrass him. This season, she is trying to use Kyle
- 6:13Speaker 1: as a way of displaying that. No, my girlfriend is
- 6:19Speaker 1: even trying to take up for PK. So let me
- 6:23Speaker 1: try to paint Kyle as this PK apologist.
- 6:27Speaker 2: But the thing is this, if.
- 6:29Speaker 1: Durree had proof and text messages that showed her in
- 6:35Speaker 1: the right.
- 6:36Speaker 2: I do believe she would have used it by now.
- 6:39Speaker 1: And now I'm starting to think perhaps dere not only
- 6:44Speaker 1: is she using Kyle for a storyline, she could be perhaps.
- 6:49Speaker 2: Maybe maybe.
- 6:54Speaker 1: Exaggerating the point when it comes to PK. And that's
- 6:57Speaker 1: why Kyle's like, no, bitch, you're not going to You're
- 7:00Speaker 1: not going to play me this season like you did
- 7:03Speaker 1: last season.
- 7:07Speaker 2: Wow.
- 7:08Speaker 4: I had never taken that outlook on it at all.
- 7:11Speaker 4: But and I didn't watch last season, so that's part
- 7:13Speaker 4: of my problem here. But you are right, Like that
- 7:16Speaker 4: makes total sense when you're dissecting it. It's like Dorry
- 7:21Speaker 4: is using this to her advantage to have a better
- 7:25Speaker 4: storyline than just being like, oh, what was me?
- 7:28Speaker 3: I'm the divorce a in action, you know. Yeah? And
- 7:32Speaker 3: you know what really got me? What you just said?
- 7:34Speaker 3: That really got me? Absolutely.
- 7:36Speaker 4: If she had proof of how horrible he is to her,
- 7:39Speaker 4: she would be showing the text and she'd be like, look, Kyle,
- 7:41Speaker 4: look he is doing it.
- 7:43Speaker 3: See he is, And you're right, she's not.
- 7:46Speaker 2: He's not.
- 7:46Speaker 4: If you have that evidence, you are playing it. You're
- 7:49Speaker 4: bringing it out.
- 7:50Speaker 1: You're bringing out Hey, listen, one thing I know as
- 7:53Speaker 1: a producer, which is when cast members are going through
- 7:59Speaker 1: divor Let's be clear, a lot of the stuff range
- 8:03Speaker 1: drops that they talk about on the show, it's pretty
- 8:06Speaker 1: much evidence to be used in court. It's it's it's
- 8:11Speaker 1: it's the reason why they say all these elaborate things. Again,
- 8:17Speaker 1: the way she spoke about K and I'm not saying
- 8:20Speaker 1: that she's not warranted. All I'm saying is to hear
- 8:26Speaker 1: Mauricio say no, I've seen text messages. He is trying
- 8:31Speaker 1: to see his children and she won't let him.
- 8:35Speaker 2: I now am.
- 8:37Speaker 1: Questioning the validity of de Reed's full statements as relates
- 8:42Speaker 1: to PK.
- 8:43Speaker 4: Hold on though, because here's the thing, even if there's
- 8:47Speaker 4: another way that this could be. And for guys, you know,
- 8:50Speaker 4: guys tell the.
- 8:50Speaker 3: Guy version of the story. Girls tell the girl version,
- 8:52Speaker 3: which is elaborate, and you got the details. Okay, So
- 8:55Speaker 3: for Mauricio, perhaps you know PK does call and say
- 9:00Speaker 3: I want to see my kids. I'm in town right now.
- 9:02Speaker 4: And Doret's right, he can't just fly in when the
- 9:05Speaker 4: kids have piano at four, you know, soccer at five,
- 9:08Speaker 4: and then dinner at seven, and then homework at eight
- 9:10Speaker 4: thirty and gotta be in bed by nine whatever. You
- 9:12Speaker 4: can't just swoop in change their entire you know, schedule.
- 9:17Speaker 4: Schedule is huge when you have a family. Like for me,
- 9:19Speaker 4: I raised my kids on a schedule. It was like
- 9:21Speaker 4: we did this. It was a tight ship. And then
- 9:23Speaker 4: we'd have our days that we would you know, play
- 9:25Speaker 4: around or say screw the schedule today. But for the
- 9:28Speaker 4: most part, you do live that, and that's what makes
- 9:30Speaker 4: them feel more secure. So I kind of get where
- 9:32Speaker 4: if maybe Mauricio's taking it like, well, PK comes in
- 9:35Speaker 4: and he's trying to see him when he is in town.
- 9:37Speaker 4: Maybe he is only in town every couple weeks or whatever.
- 9:40Speaker 4: He's living his best life and he wants to just
- 9:42Speaker 4: come in and be like and then and then for
- 9:44Speaker 4: Jurite to say, well, it doesn't work that way, PK.
- 9:46Speaker 3: You want to see the kids. Let's get it on
- 9:47Speaker 3: the books.
- 9:47Speaker 4: We'll move some of their schedule around. You can take
- 9:49Speaker 4: him more, but here's the schedule to follow. Get them
- 9:51Speaker 4: to their get them to their piano, get them to
- 9:53Speaker 4: their karate, get them to their you know what I mean,
- 9:55Speaker 4: Like I don't know, I don't know. That's why it's
- 9:58Speaker 4: like it's really hard to decide for who's really right
- 10:01Speaker 4: right now between p K Andry. It really is for
- 10:03Speaker 4: me because I can sit back and go, eh, I
- 10:05Speaker 4: could see where it could be.
- 10:07Speaker 3: A little bit of both.
- 10:08Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, and you're right, and you're right, You're right.
- 10:11Speaker 1: One thing that redid say is everything you just said.
- 10:13Speaker 1: She did say in her defense that look, he wants
- 10:17Speaker 1: to see them when he pops up, and no, they
- 10:20Speaker 1: have things to do.
- 10:21Speaker 2: They have a skill. You can't just pop up. So
- 10:23Speaker 2: you are right.
- 10:24Speaker 3: So perhaps to your Maria is taking it that way.
- 10:27Speaker 4: Maybe Brici is like, look, she's saying no, but Marius
- 10:30Speaker 4: is not thinking, well, PK just flew in for two
- 10:33Speaker 4: days and wants to see him on those two days.
- 10:34Speaker 3: But they have a concert they have that they have
- 10:36Speaker 3: to play in, they have a you know, I don't know.
- 10:38Speaker 3: You know, it's just a way.
- 10:40Speaker 2: Until Duck feels safer. Yeah, sometimes these memories were.
- 10:43Speaker 4: Turned as flacks.
- 10:44Speaker 3: Okay, that was interesting.
- 10:53Speaker 4: I'm like, well, now who else is on our pod today?
- 10:56Speaker 3: Carlos A I p K.
- 11:01Speaker 1: Okay, So no, you raised a good point. You rased
- 11:03Speaker 1: a good point, and that's why for me. Look, DEI
- 11:07Speaker 1: and Kyle will never be friends. I'm not sure if
- 11:10Speaker 1: you saw this. But Durriiy was on Watch What Happens
- 11:13Speaker 1: Live on Thursday and and Diggy did ask Duried He said, look,
- 11:21Speaker 1: you know there's you know, rumors that Kyle and Mauricio
- 11:27Speaker 1: were hanging out having fun and Asppen possibly getting back together.
- 11:33Speaker 2: What do you think about that?
- 11:35Speaker 1: Duri's direct response, and I quote she said, oh, this
- 11:40Speaker 1: is so boring. Everybody knows that Maurice and Kyle and
- 11:47Speaker 1: their family go to Aspen every year. And let's be clear,
- 11:52Speaker 1: if they were back together or even think think about
- 11:55Speaker 1: getting back together, Kyle will be the first one to
- 11:59Speaker 1: screen to the rooftop and tell everybody.
- 12:04Speaker 4: I did hear the rumor, and I haven't watched the
- 12:05Speaker 4: Watch What Happens Live yet. I planned to watch that
- 12:07Speaker 4: tonight or today, you know, whenever, cooking dinner or something,
- 12:10Speaker 4: but I can't wait to watch it now that you're
- 12:12Speaker 4: saying that. But I did hear the rumor or see
- 12:14Speaker 4: some info about possibly Kyle and you know Maricio are
- 12:17Speaker 4: snuggling up at you know, on their ski trip. So
- 12:22Speaker 4: you're saying Jerite said on Watch What Happens Live, it's
- 12:25Speaker 4: a cold in hell before their.
- 12:27Speaker 1: No, No, she was just saying she feels like she thinks
- 12:31Speaker 1: she she said is boring, and by boring, she means
- 12:34Speaker 1: like this is not interesting and it's not what you
- 12:39Speaker 1: guys think it is. And if it was true, Kyle,
- 12:44Speaker 1: who can't hold water and talks to the press, she'll
- 12:48Speaker 1: be the first person to tell TMZ anonymously, and that's
- 12:53Speaker 1: pretty much.
- 12:54Speaker 2: What she was.
- 12:54Speaker 3: Well kind of that is kind of a little dig.
- 12:56Speaker 4: But you're also saying in the sentence that you don't
- 12:59Speaker 4: think they're ever going to be friends again, Kyle and
- 13:02Speaker 4: Durie are ever gonna be close again.
- 13:04Speaker 3: And I don't agree. I don't agree.
- 13:06Speaker 4: I think I think dereit's just going through a really
- 13:08Speaker 4: hard time and like I told you, everything is exasperated,
- 13:11Speaker 4: everything's a bigger deal than it is because she's at
- 13:13Speaker 4: such a low place in her life and just really hurting.
- 13:15Speaker 4: And I think that I think Erica Jane gave the
- 13:18Speaker 4: best advice to Kyle and just said, or maybe it
- 13:20Speaker 4: was Bose, someone gave advice to Kyle on this episode
- 13:23Speaker 4: and just said, sit back and don't even bring up
- 13:26Speaker 4: p K's name at all.
- 13:27Speaker 3: Don't even talk about him.
- 13:29Speaker 4: If she starts that conversation divert or stay out of it,
- 13:31Speaker 4: just don't even bring it up. I think if Kyle
- 13:34Speaker 4: does that and Dari gets through this hard, you know,
- 13:37Speaker 4: because like Sutton said, you will make it through the
- 13:39Speaker 4: other side. It sucks going through it right now you're
- 13:41Speaker 4: in the thick water, but you're going to make it
- 13:43Speaker 4: to the other side, you know. So it's I think
- 13:46Speaker 4: that that's Kyle's best thing. And I mean, you know,
- 13:49Speaker 4: we talked about this last week, but you go through
- 13:51Speaker 4: friendships where you you are friends for really, really close
- 13:54Speaker 4: and then you have a season where you just kind
- 13:55Speaker 4: of have to pull back, but then you're you can
- 13:57Speaker 4: get close again in another year, you know, when you're
- 13:59Speaker 4: both through a little bit of other junk in your life.
- 14:01Speaker 3: So I don't know, I see you rest in the world.
- 14:04Speaker 1: We'll see this is reality with the King, and I'm
- 14:09Speaker 1: Carlos King.
- 14:10Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show.
- 14:13Speaker 1: One world I don't see a friendship happening is between
- 14:16Speaker 1: Amanda and so look.
- 14:22Speaker 2: Unpopular opinion or maybe popular I don't know.
- 14:25Speaker 1: I haven't run down the social media gamut today, but
- 14:31Speaker 1: Amanda is the only one I felt like that's clocked
- 14:34Speaker 1: in making sure that we have something to talk about.
- 14:38Speaker 2: So Amanda goes into.
- 14:40Speaker 1: Kyle's room and she's like, Kyle, there's something I want
- 14:46Speaker 1: to bring up to you. I'm like, okay, Amanda, I
- 14:50Speaker 1: need you to go see a better acting coach because we.
- 14:53Speaker 2: Know that the producers go in and bring it up.
- 14:57Speaker 1: That is fine, it's fine, but you're the leading response
- 15:01Speaker 1: was not the best delivery. But I digress, your newbie,
- 15:04Speaker 1: and I'm gonna cut you some slack.
- 15:06Speaker 4: Yeah, So give her a year, give her one season,
- 15:08Speaker 4: give her one season.
- 15:09Speaker 2: Alexas like, I'm gonna give you one season, girl. Because Alex,
- 15:14Speaker 2: she's like, oh, come, there's something I want to bring up.
- 15:22Speaker 2: CAUs like, give me your beats. Let's go.
- 15:25Speaker 1: So Amanda tells Kyle that look some guy as if
- 15:31Speaker 1: Amanda hasn't watched The Real Housewives of Beverley Hills since
- 15:35Speaker 1: Season one, episode one in the Camilla Grammar Days. But
- 15:38Speaker 1: I digress, so she said, some guy named ivy.
- 15:42Speaker 2: Ari over Boah. I don't know some fine you used
- 15:49Speaker 2: to work for something.
- 15:50Speaker 1: And a friend of mine knows him and he was
- 15:55Speaker 1: around her and he said, tell Amantha to call me.
- 15:59Speaker 1: I'll give her all the tea about sun Ed And
- 16:03Speaker 1: I'm like of Madda, you are messy and I love you.
- 16:08Speaker 2: I love Amanda Lais.
- 16:12Speaker 4: I have such a like mix of feelings about her.
- 16:15Speaker 4: But the good news is, like I said last week,
- 16:17Speaker 4: you want to keep watching more. I think she did
- 16:19Speaker 4: redeem herself a little bit. Although she's just still talking.
- 16:21Speaker 4: I mean, she's gonna watch the season play back and
- 16:23Speaker 4: next year. She's not going to talk next season and
- 16:25Speaker 4: she's asked back she will never bring up a material
- 16:27Speaker 4: thing again, because I know she's probably cringing every time
- 16:29Speaker 4: now that they're pulling it out, and she's.
- 16:30Speaker 3: Like, I'm the this of my sence Treena and my
- 16:33Speaker 3: Chanel backgap.
- 16:33Speaker 4: It's like it's like everything has a label or a
- 16:36Speaker 4: name or a or a reason or I I'm.
- 16:38Speaker 3: Seventeen alligator bags. I have a ton of them, a
- 16:40Speaker 3: lot of them, A.
- 16:41Speaker 4: Lot, a lot, you know, And I love Boza's or
- 16:45Speaker 4: no who whose reaction went, oh, oh, of course Jennifer Tilly,
- 16:49Speaker 4: who cracked me up this.
- 16:50Speaker 3: Entire this tiremist. But I laughed out loud and snorted
- 16:53Speaker 3: several times with her.
- 16:54Speaker 4: Anyway, She's like, oh, okay about the you know, seventy
- 16:58Speaker 4: five million bags.
- 16:59Speaker 3: She as her alligator.
- 17:00Speaker 4: But I feel like Jennifer that uh Amanda is definitely
- 17:07Speaker 4: like a good fresh like you said, like she's bringing
- 17:10Speaker 4: new energy. She is clocked in. The other women are
- 17:13Speaker 4: kind of some of them are flocked out. Yeah, she's
- 17:16Speaker 4: she's there to hold everyone accountable, and she's not scared
- 17:18Speaker 4: to say, oh do you cry? Often after she's just like,
- 17:22Speaker 4: had the worst conversation.
- 17:23Speaker 2: Ever with I love it.
- 17:26Speaker 4: She might as well just said, you have a booger
- 17:27Speaker 4: in your left nose nostril, you know.
- 17:29Speaker 1: Like so I love hecause she's calling things out and listen,
- 17:35Speaker 1: the thing is this, we do want to know what
- 17:39Speaker 1: happened to sut In, the former assistant latch house manager.
- 17:44Speaker 1: And I appreciate her for bringing it, for talking to
- 17:48Speaker 1: call about it, and then as we're about to get
- 17:50Speaker 1: into now bringing it to Sting.
- 17:52Speaker 2: So what do what are you?
- 17:53Speaker 4: Okay, here's my take on it, and I want to
- 17:55Speaker 4: see if you agree or not. I feel like when
- 17:57Speaker 4: you saw Sudden, first of all, Sutton's creating her.
- 17:59Speaker 3: Own work nightmare.
- 18:00Speaker 4: You know that if the more you don't want to
- 18:02Speaker 4: bring something up on this national television show that you're on,
- 18:04Speaker 4: the more the producers are going to want it, and
- 18:06Speaker 4: the more that the other castmates are gonna want it,
- 18:08Speaker 4: and you're creating a bigger storm where it could have
- 18:10Speaker 4: just been.
- 18:10Speaker 3: Five rain drops. Okay, oh rain drops.
- 18:14Speaker 4: Anyway, I feel like all she needed to do was
- 18:18Speaker 4: simply say at the very beginning, look, it's too faint
- 18:21Speaker 4: painful for me to talk about I loved him. I've
- 18:23Speaker 4: lost my husband, I've lost my closest person, other best
- 18:25Speaker 4: friend to me and my house manager or whatever.
- 18:27Speaker 3: I mean. Because you do get close with your staff.
- 18:28Speaker 3: You know this.
- 18:29Speaker 4: If you have people to work with you, you become
- 18:31Speaker 4: You don't even mean to, you just do because they
- 18:33Speaker 4: know everything from when the day you have diarrhea to
- 18:35Speaker 4: the day that you have the flu to the day
- 18:37Speaker 4: that you are feeling great. They know everything right because
- 18:40Speaker 4: they're there. So I feel like it might must be
- 18:43Speaker 4: pretty painful for Sutton. However, part of me does feel
- 18:47Speaker 4: like there's something she doesn't want everyone to know. And
- 18:49Speaker 4: that's what's sad for her, is that if she would
- 18:51Speaker 4: have just said at the very beginning, it's too painful,
- 18:54Speaker 4: he's too close to me, and now we don't have
- 18:56Speaker 4: a friendship. I don't and I don't want to talk
- 18:57Speaker 4: about it at all, probably would have let things kind
- 18:59Speaker 4: of go away faster. But because she's been like so
- 19:04Speaker 4: dancing around it and didn't say that at first, now
- 19:06Speaker 4: it's led everybody to feel like, there's got to be
- 19:09Speaker 4: more of the story.
- 19:10Speaker 3: Let's get to the more of the story, you know,
- 19:12Speaker 3: So what do you do?
- 19:13Speaker 2: I think there's more to the story.
- 19:15Speaker 1: I think look, when Amanda confronted something about it, this
- 19:23Speaker 1: is who Sutton is to me, right, I think something
- 19:28Speaker 1: is somebody And this is what I cannot stomach about
- 19:35Speaker 1: reality stars who are themselves and they have a season
- 19:40Speaker 1: where you know, the audience may not appreciate their honesty
- 19:46Speaker 1: because you know, the moral police on social media, who's perfect?
- 19:51Speaker 2: They want everybody to be perfect? Right something last season
- 19:55Speaker 2: gave a lot of.
- 20:00Speaker 1: Harsh raw commentary two three, how her wallet doesn't match
- 20:06Speaker 1: her size and you're don't be mad and be be
- 20:09Speaker 1: mad at her life. As we saw in the playback
- 20:12Speaker 1: this episode, Sutton was non existent at the reunion. I
- 20:20Speaker 1: forgot she was there. She looked like she was a
- 20:25Speaker 1: part of the fabric on the couch because she blended
- 20:28Speaker 1: in there. She she did not stand out. She she
- 20:32Speaker 1: she gave, she gave absolutely nothing.
- 20:34Speaker 3: Are you talking about?
- 20:35Speaker 2: Is this is this?
- 20:36Speaker 4: Is this outfit? Why is like her her glamor? Or
- 20:38Speaker 4: was it just your personality?
- 20:41Speaker 1: Okay, personality? Like she she just blended in with the couch,
- 20:45Speaker 1: got it? I forgot she was there right the the
- 20:49Speaker 1: the spuck that she that she does have.
- 20:52Speaker 2: Dissipated at the reunion. Well, bother is me about?
- 20:55Speaker 1: Reality starts when they do this and listen, we're gonna
- 20:58Speaker 1: have a real conversation.
- 20:58Speaker 2: Lexis Milino.
- 21:01Speaker 1: Is when they have a tough season and in the
- 21:03Speaker 1: following season, all of a sudden, I want to change
- 21:09Speaker 1: the error of my ways. I'm going to therapy. I'm
- 21:12Speaker 1: seeking anger management coach. I have a life coach.
- 21:17Speaker 2: You know. I'm I'm a wallflower.
- 21:20Speaker 1: I'm an angel and I I'm trying to learn more
- 21:22Speaker 1: about the era of my ways. It's all bullshit. It's
- 21:26Speaker 1: all bullshit. It's not fair. It is fair because it's true,
- 21:31Speaker 1: it's true.
- 21:32Speaker 4: Tell me, why then, why do you think that you
- 21:33Speaker 4: can't reflect on what because you can want yourself a
- 21:35Speaker 4: season and.
- 21:36Speaker 3: Realize I don't like that about me. I'm going to
- 21:38Speaker 3: change it.
- 21:39Speaker 4: That's probably what Sutton did. So why are you so
- 21:41Speaker 4: like Debbie Downer right now that you don't believe that.
- 21:44Speaker 2: She's Debbie, she's no because you're.
- 21:48Speaker 4: You are saying, you're saying it's all bull crap, that
- 21:52Speaker 4: she really isn't having a life coach and doing all
- 21:54Speaker 4: this about herself. But couldn't you have watched yourself be
- 21:56Speaker 4: the wallflower on the couch last season and be like,
- 21:58Speaker 4: I don't want to be that next season. I'm going
- 22:00Speaker 4: to make that change. Or where are you coming forget?
- 22:02Speaker 3: Tell me where? You don't why? You don't believe why?
- 22:06Speaker 1: Because when it comes to human behavior, when it comes
- 22:09Speaker 1: to listen, this is not her first season, right, So
- 22:13Speaker 1: the moment Sutton appeared on the Real Housewives of Bellvy
- 22:17Speaker 1: Hills as a friend, she told Teddy Mellencamp and I
- 22:21Speaker 1: thought you were going to be boring and god, you're pregnant.
- 22:25Speaker 2: That told me everything I need to know about who
- 22:27Speaker 2: you are.
- 22:27Speaker 1: You saying, you say things that a lot of people
- 22:31Speaker 1: won't say. I find that to be interesting. Right, Sutton
- 22:36Speaker 1: lost guard sell last season and Sutton said things to
- 22:41Speaker 1: Dory that I found to be a good read. But
- 22:44Speaker 1: unfortunately the moral police of social media read her for it.
- 22:49Speaker 1: So when she comes in this season. The reason why
- 22:52Speaker 1: she let Avy go, in my opinion, is because Sutton
- 22:56Speaker 1: is trying to not become that same person last season.
- 22:59Speaker 1: I believe that Ibvy knows a lot about Suddon and
- 23:02Speaker 1: maybe was maybe influenced Sudden a way. I believe Ivy
- 23:07Speaker 1: gave Sudden reads. I believe he told her how to
- 23:11Speaker 1: drag dor read. It did not work in her favor.
- 23:15Speaker 1: She dismissed him. You see that Sudden is a control freak.
- 23:20Speaker 1: The way she speaks to Jennifer Tilly is so rude,
- 23:23Speaker 1: it's so nasty because she feels like, I we're gonna
- 23:27Speaker 1: get into this too. She feels like, Jennifer Tilly, you
- 23:30Speaker 1: may have more money than me, but I brought you
- 23:32Speaker 1: on the show and I could take you out.
- 23:34Speaker 2: And that's the reason why she is very snippy.
- 23:37Speaker 1: So she hasn't in her but she's trying her best
- 23:41Speaker 1: to appear to be this evolved woman. And yes, you
- 23:46Speaker 1: can't call it as a person. However, who you are
- 23:51Speaker 1: is who you are. And I don't believe for one
- 23:54Speaker 1: second that Sudden is all of a sudden the second
- 23:57Speaker 1: coming of Christ.
- 23:58Speaker 2: And it's who who doesn't.
- 24:02Speaker 1: Have the kick that she used to have. I think
- 24:05Speaker 1: it's all bullshit and performative.
- 24:08Speaker 4: She's okay, Wow, She's definitely still got her little stings.
- 24:13Speaker 3: She Sutton still does her stings like that has.
- 24:15Speaker 4: Not that is not lost at all like in her
- 24:16Speaker 4: new you know, revival of Sutton Brown. But so I
- 24:23Speaker 4: do hear and see that with what you're saying. However,
- 24:27Speaker 4: I do feel that she's trying. I feel like she's
- 24:30Speaker 4: in a little bit of a vortex. Let's just say.
- 24:32Speaker 4: I think she's in her own vortex because of the
- 24:34Speaker 4: fact that she is wanting to make these changes. She
- 24:38Speaker 4: has lost two very important people in her life. She
- 24:40Speaker 4: didn't like how it was last season. Now three people
- 24:42Speaker 4: actually because Garcel too. I think all of this plays
- 24:44Speaker 4: in Sutton's minds where she's like, I kind of want
- 24:46Speaker 4: to be different, I want to do different, I want
- 24:48Speaker 4: to be better. But her zingers still come in full effect.
- 24:52Speaker 4: And you're right, you can't take the leopard, can't change
- 24:54Speaker 4: its stice.
- 24:55Speaker 3: It's spots.
- 24:55Speaker 4: So she she still has her spots. Can she evolve
- 24:59Speaker 4: a little?
- 25:00Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 25:01Speaker 3: Is this the season that I'm gonna believe it's happened?
- 25:03Speaker 4: In all of her therapy and life, coaches and everything
- 25:05Speaker 4: is working. No, I think she's got a couple more seasons.
- 25:08Speaker 4: We're going to need to see all of this happen.
- 25:10Speaker 4: But I think he might be right. I think she
- 25:11Speaker 4: might just go back to the old sudden. I think
- 25:15Speaker 4: she's just gonna be like, I'm just gonna stay myself.
- 25:17Speaker 3: I can't, I can't try to be a bad person.
- 25:19Speaker 1: Yes, and that's what and and Amanda, listen, I know
- 25:24Speaker 1: that Amanda, unfortunately is trying to do her job and
- 25:29Speaker 1: rain drops hear me out. Cut Amanda some slack because
- 25:36Speaker 1: as a newbie, she's trying to find her footing. And
- 25:41Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, she also is being encouraged to
- 25:45Speaker 1: bring things up.
- 25:46Speaker 2: That is true. That is true when she.
- 25:50Speaker 1: Walks in giving a horrible Jennifer Lawrence performance of breaking
- 25:54Speaker 1: up a topic, is because she's encouraged to do it.
- 25:58Speaker 1: It's real, but she was told to do it, So
- 26:02Speaker 1: cut her some some slack. However, when Sutton said, I
- 26:07Speaker 1: know what you're doing, Amanda, You're you're you're trying to
- 26:11Speaker 1: get attention, which translation alexis as you know, you're trying
- 26:15Speaker 1: to get a moment out of me to make your
- 26:17Speaker 1: mark on the show.
- 26:18Speaker 4: Right, The same as that have the exact same take
- 26:24Speaker 4: as you one million percent. But the part that you
- 26:28Speaker 4: know the rain drops don't know because they haven't filmed
- 26:30Speaker 4: most of them haven't filmed a reality show, is that
- 26:32Speaker 4: the producers are telling you what you need to bring up.
- 26:36Speaker 4: Like if they know something, they're like, you can't go
- 26:37Speaker 4: sit there and just drink your your your alani and
- 26:40Speaker 4: and your iced tea and go on. You've got to
- 26:43Speaker 4: go and talk about this and just get it out
- 26:44Speaker 4: on the table. And so, yeah, she's doing her she's
- 26:47Speaker 4: doing her talking points, she's doing her jobs, period, You're right,
- 26:50Speaker 4: and so so you can't blame her. So you do
- 26:52Speaker 4: need to give Amanda a chance, just like you do
- 26:53Speaker 4: anybody else because there's i mean, every single one of
- 26:56Speaker 4: them have had times where you know that that was
- 26:57Speaker 4: a talking point, that they knew that during that or
- 27:00Speaker 4: that shopping fest or whatever they're doing, was meant to
- 27:03Speaker 4: have this talked about right now on camera. You know
- 27:05Speaker 4: that when you're you know, you can see it. So
- 27:08Speaker 4: all the housewives have to do it. So it's not
- 27:10Speaker 4: just Amanda. Amanda's just getting a little bit of a
- 27:12Speaker 4: hard knock because she is the newbie, and every newbie
- 27:15Speaker 4: has to go through this. There's you know, every newbie
- 27:17Speaker 4: goes through the induct what's it called induction or you know,
- 27:21Speaker 4: the hazing process or whatever, where America kind of hates
- 27:24Speaker 4: you or doesn't like X, Y and Z about you,
- 27:26Speaker 4: but then they start to fall in love with you.
- 27:28Speaker 3: So it's just part of the process.
- 27:30Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, agreed, agreed, Agree, And that's why for
- 27:33Speaker 1: me is one of those things where I'm just sort
- 27:35Speaker 1: of like, look, the producers don't tell you what to say.
- 27:40Speaker 1: This is me speaking as producer. We don't tell you
- 27:42Speaker 1: what to say. But in terms of story, yes, if
- 27:46Speaker 1: you're just beIN making a producer, because let me tell
- 27:48Speaker 1: you hard words, and Alexa, you stop me if I'm wrong.
- 27:51Speaker 1: And granted, granted all production works differently, but Alex, but
- 27:57Speaker 1: Alexa's being a reality star.
- 27:59Speaker 2: She can tell you, guys if I am if I'm
- 28:01Speaker 2: not telling the truth. Okay.
- 28:04Speaker 1: Every week the reality girlies, they speak to their producer,
- 28:08Speaker 1: how is your week, what's going on? How do you
- 28:10Speaker 1: feel about so and so, how did you feel about
- 28:12Speaker 1: that scene?
- 28:13Speaker 2: Lah? Blah blah.
- 28:15Speaker 1: Right, Amanda, in my opinion, told her producers. Hey, by
- 28:20Speaker 1: the way, you know, Abby said this to me about Sutton,
- 28:25Speaker 1: and the producer goes, okay, right, So our job as
- 28:31Speaker 1: producers is to find the right moment when that can
- 28:34Speaker 1: come out.
- 28:35Speaker 2: Right. So the producers told, in my opinion, allegedly.
- 28:40Speaker 1: Told Amanda, hey, remember what you told us, Yes, tell
- 28:45Speaker 1: Kyle okay. So she tells Kyle right. The producer, hey,
- 28:51Speaker 1: when you're front of Sutton, bring it up to Ston okay.
- 28:55Speaker 1: So again, we don't tell you what you say, but
- 28:58Speaker 1: if you do tell us something about a cast number,
- 29:00Speaker 1: all you're light or whatever that we find to be
- 29:03Speaker 1: interesting for the show, we do encourage you to bring
- 29:07Speaker 1: it up at the right moment. And that's what a
- 29:10Speaker 1: man that was doing, and that's why sut and clopped
- 29:13Speaker 1: it and said she wants attention, which means more camera
- 29:17Speaker 1: time exactly.
- 29:19Speaker 4: But you know, in fairness to Amanda and what you
- 29:22Speaker 4: said about the you know, it's basically storyline.
- 29:25Speaker 3: The producers need to move the storyline along.
- 29:27Speaker 4: Otherwise you're going to sit and watch a TV show
- 29:29Speaker 4: that's like watching paint dry, and it's going to lose
- 29:31Speaker 4: every viewer it has and the show is going to die.
- 29:35Speaker 4: So at the same time, you have to you have
- 29:36Speaker 4: to understand it. You have to put story along the
- 29:38Speaker 4: line along. The producers have to, like you said, find
- 29:42Speaker 4: the time for the cast member to mention it. But
- 29:45Speaker 4: also you can't and then you can't mention something one
- 29:48Speaker 4: episode and not you know, have it brought back up
- 29:51Speaker 4: again to have the final closure of that one topic.
- 29:53Speaker 3: You have to you have to follow through.
- 29:55Speaker 4: So because of this ABVI story with Amanda, Amanda now
- 29:59Speaker 4: has to bring it up to for a few certain people,
- 30:01Speaker 4: they're gonna have to have closure on it.
- 30:02Speaker 3: It's gonna be brought up with the reunion now.
- 30:04Speaker 4: But it's like it's part of what makes the show
- 30:07Speaker 4: go on because otherwise, especially Beverly Hills are so per slipped.
- 30:12Speaker 4: They wouldn't talk about anything except for how much snow
- 30:15Speaker 4: Big Bear got, and they don't even go to Big Bear,
- 30:17Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's like, I don't know,
- 30:19Speaker 4: we wouldn't have all the fun that we have if
- 30:21Speaker 4: the producers didn't help say, okay, bring us up now,
- 30:24Speaker 4: or this has to be brought up.
- 30:25Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a team.
- 30:26Speaker 1: Work, it's team marked, it's a team effort, and you're right, listen,
- 30:31Speaker 1: the reason why it's a slow burn this season two
- 30:34Speaker 1: is because none of these girls and Alexis.
- 30:36Speaker 2: I would love to get your POV. Listen, Listen, Linda, Linda, listen.
- 30:43Speaker 1: Ohc honey, honey, honey, honey. The reason why OC is
- 30:53Speaker 1: celebrating their upcoming twentieth season is because past and press
- 31:00Speaker 1: it those OC girls.
- 31:03Speaker 2: Alexis shout out to you as well. Y'all bring shit
- 31:06Speaker 2: up and hold feet to the fire.
- 31:12Speaker 1: One thing about the OC girlies is when you and
- 31:19Speaker 1: I would love I would love to get your opinion
- 31:21Speaker 1: on this because I never asked you this even privately.
- 31:25Speaker 1: When you, Alexis, would be at like a dinner scene
- 31:30Speaker 1: with the girls, right, would you know, like something's gonna happen,
- 31:35Speaker 1: like we're at dinner, Like, are you girlies aware that
- 31:40Speaker 1: all right? If I'm not the person that gonna break
- 31:43Speaker 1: up something, somebody else is And are you guys just
- 31:47Speaker 1: waiting for the shoot to drop and you're like cutting
- 31:50Speaker 1: your stake?
- 31:52Speaker 2: Alexis nodding for my listeners.
- 31:54Speaker 4: It is so spot on, you know, And the problem
- 31:57Speaker 4: is that when it gets scary, when you start your
- 32:00Speaker 4: your your butt starts to pucker.
- 32:01Speaker 3: A little bit, is when you know or when you
- 32:04Speaker 3: don't know who it's gonna be about. Because that means
- 32:06Speaker 3: it's probably you.
- 32:07Speaker 4: So you're hoping that you've heard a little, you know,
- 32:09Speaker 4: some some little whisper in your voice that oh, tonight
- 32:12Speaker 4: we're gonna tell you know, you know, uh Gina about
- 32:15Speaker 4: you know, I.
- 32:16Speaker 3: Don't know, we're gonna talk about her DUI back in
- 32:18Speaker 3: you know, decade ago or whatever.
- 32:19Speaker 4: But it's like, it's like, if you don't know what
- 32:21Speaker 4: that dinner is gonna be about, you're sitting there going,
- 32:23Speaker 4: holy crap, it's probably me.
- 32:24Speaker 3: So you are bracing for impact. You are cutting that steak,
- 32:27Speaker 3: but you're cutting out like this. Carlos, you were like, uh,
- 32:31Speaker 3: who's gonna do it?
- 32:32Speaker 2: Who's bringing it to me? I'm ready?
- 32:37Speaker 3: Guys, you.
- 32:40Speaker 4: Might be acting. You might be eating like this. Carlos,
- 32:42Speaker 4: you might be doing this an acting, you know, because
- 32:46Speaker 4: you're like, but inside you are doing the whole.
- 32:48Speaker 3: I'm giving you that steak some buck takes. Somebody's eyes
- 32:50Speaker 3: are right now because I know they're going to bring
- 32:51Speaker 3: something up that I don't really want to talk about.
- 32:53Speaker 4: But I know it's got to be me because I
- 32:54Speaker 4: didn't hear any whisper or chatter about who this dinner's about.
- 33:01Speaker 1: And guess what, I've always learned is you're gonna love this.
- 33:05Speaker 1: If you don't have the beat, you are the beat.
- 33:09Speaker 4: Okay, that's exactly what I just said, but you said
- 33:12Speaker 4: it's so much more profoundly that's exactly the truth.
- 33:14Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so you know, but that's okay, you know.
- 33:17Speaker 4: Because that's part of the show. That's part of what
- 33:18Speaker 4: you're doing. You're there for a reason. Yeah, bring the ratings, to.
- 33:22Speaker 2: Bring the ratings, and that's why for me.
- 33:24Speaker 1: So when you watch the Billie here girls at the Table,
- 33:28Speaker 1: so again a man that brought it up some and
- 33:31Speaker 1: shuts it down.
- 33:32Speaker 2: She says she's uncomfortable talking about it.
- 33:35Speaker 1: I feel like if we had Tamra, Emily, Gina, Alexis,
- 33:39Speaker 1: Heather Vicki, Shannon.
- 33:43Speaker 5: Jen somebody would say, okay, but why don't you want
- 33:51Speaker 5: to tell it to me?
- 33:53Speaker 1: Is the most obvious question to ask somebody, Like, while
- 33:58Speaker 1: I understand you guys for friends, you also have to
- 34:02Speaker 1: understand where we're coming from.
- 34:04Speaker 2: You want us to adore you the way Garcel did you, the.
- 34:09Speaker 1: Way you Sutton asked us all these questions about p
- 34:13Speaker 1: que my money, Tom Girardi, my case. It is weird
- 34:19Speaker 1: that you don't have him anymore. Can you let us
- 34:23Speaker 1: in us something? And I felt like, that's why I'm
- 34:26Speaker 1: giving Aman the grace because to me, it was just
- 34:30Speaker 1: odd that nobody wanted to ask a follow up question.
- 34:33Speaker 4: I think that was so bizarre that all seven or
- 34:35Speaker 4: eight women sat around that table and did not do
- 34:37Speaker 4: what you said, which OC women would have done. One
- 34:39Speaker 4: of the women in OC would have been like, okay, Sutton,
- 34:43Speaker 4: but then just give us, give us.
- 34:44Speaker 3: A grain of salt, give us one grain of why
- 34:47Speaker 3: it blew up.
- 34:48Speaker 4: I get that you're hurt, but there's a reason and
- 34:49Speaker 4: there's something you don't want to talk about, kind of.
- 34:51Speaker 3: Like Kyle was.
- 34:53Speaker 4: You know, it goes back to Kyle does the exact
- 34:55Speaker 4: same thing. When Kyle kept pur slift about her relationship.
- 35:00Speaker 4: Once she said it's because my partner did not want
- 35:03Speaker 4: to be talked about and does not want to be
- 35:05Speaker 4: talked about. Everyone goes, oh, that's why you were being
- 35:08Speaker 4: so you know, evasive about it. However, Sutton is doing
- 35:13Speaker 4: it and instead of the women, all the women set
- 35:16Speaker 4: around at that dinner and when she's like, I don't
- 35:18Speaker 4: ever want to talk about it again, and you guys
- 35:20Speaker 4: can talk behind my back, but do not bring it
- 35:22Speaker 4: up in front of me, and every woman just sat
- 35:24Speaker 4: there and was like okay. It's like, hey, old, I'm
- 35:26Speaker 4: not going to go okay, you're on a reality show.
- 35:29Speaker 4: You're on a reality show. You need to tell us
- 35:31Speaker 4: what the hell happened. And even if you don't want
- 35:32Speaker 4: to talk about it, say you know what it ended
- 35:35Speaker 4: kind of ugly. We got into a fight. We did
- 35:37Speaker 4: not end on good terms. That's all you need to know.
- 35:39Speaker 3: We're not.
- 35:39Speaker 4: But she's she's being so elusive or evasive. What word
- 35:42Speaker 4: am I looking for here? But it's like it brings
- 35:45Speaker 4: more elusive, it brings more attention to it, you know,
- 35:49Speaker 4: and the other women. That's the difference between OC and
- 35:51Speaker 4: Beverly Hills. Those women Beverly Hills just go, you know,
- 35:55Speaker 4: kind of just like okay, change the subjects, let's move on.
- 35:57Speaker 3: And OC people do not do that. We do not
- 36:00Speaker 3: us girls, do not let that go. We are going
- 36:03Speaker 3: to get to the bottom of it.
- 36:04Speaker 4: Whether it's this dinner or seven dinners later, We're going
- 36:07Speaker 4: to get to the bottom.
- 36:10Speaker 2: I like to stand whether this dinner or seven dinners later.
- 36:14Speaker 4: But guess up there you might as well, you know what,
- 36:17Speaker 4: everyone's kind of watching their clock going I don't want
- 36:19Speaker 4: to have seven more of these.
- 36:20Speaker 3: This is grueling. Can you just bring out the bullshit
- 36:23Speaker 3: now and tell us the truth so that we can
- 36:24Speaker 3: move on.
- 36:25Speaker 4: In the next dinner, maybe we can have a lollipop
- 36:27Speaker 4: dessert instead of like this, Like I.
- 36:29Speaker 1: Mean, that's that's my issue when they are around each
- 36:41Speaker 1: other and nobody wants to bring it up.
- 36:43Speaker 2: So Amanda, listen, Amanda was doing.
- 36:46Speaker 1: Her job this this episode, so not only did what
- 36:51Speaker 1: Alexis said happened where Sun said and.
- 36:53Speaker 2: Don't break it up around me. I do not want
- 36:55Speaker 2: to talk about anymore. You are talking behind my back.
- 36:59Speaker 1: Do behind my back exactly. Don't break it up to me.
- 37:02Speaker 1: And they're like, okay, girl, Amanda says.
- 37:04Speaker 2: Bitch, I'm new I'm doing it again.
- 37:06Speaker 1: So then Amanda, well, the second night at dinner, goes, hey, Sutton, are.
- 37:15Speaker 6: You still upset about what happened yesterday? You called me
- 37:22Speaker 6: missy in the kitchen and you know you didn't seem
- 37:26Speaker 6: like yourself. You know, you had the main course, and
- 37:30Speaker 6: she goes, I have the main course and about the girls,
- 37:34Speaker 6: about the proteas.
- 37:40Speaker 3: It is kind of true, though, Carlos. But first of all,
- 37:43Speaker 3: let me let me start with this.
- 37:44Speaker 4: It is true that Sutton, Sorry, honey, you didn't have
- 37:46Speaker 4: the main course, because everyone's waiting for the bird or
- 37:48Speaker 4: their or their or their cow.
- 37:50Speaker 3: They want that on their plate.
- 37:51Speaker 4: And unless they're vegetarian like Carlos King, they're wanting their
- 37:54Speaker 4: They're wanting their bird.
- 37:54Speaker 3: Or their cow, you know, or their fish.
- 37:57Speaker 4: And then they are gonna put a little bite apasta
- 37:59Speaker 4: for us that want to see slim. We eat two
- 38:00Speaker 4: bites of pasta and you know, and then they're gonna
- 38:03Speaker 4: have their their pile of greens.
- 38:04Speaker 3: That's that's it.
- 38:05Speaker 4: So I'm sorry you didn't have the main course. But
- 38:07Speaker 4: what kills me if on this episode and about this dinner.
- 38:11Speaker 4: These women have their glam squad and they're getting here
- 38:15Speaker 4: and make up of the clucket to go have a
- 38:18Speaker 4: thirty minute dinner and go wipe.
- 38:20Speaker 2: It all off. I spit it out.
- 38:22Speaker 3: Let's just spend an hour and a half in makeup
- 38:24Speaker 3: from ten to eleven, go have dinner from eleven to eleven,
- 38:27Speaker 3: thirty or forty five, and then we're gonna go watch
- 38:29Speaker 3: it all off to bed.
- 38:32Speaker 1: I was like, I.
- 38:32Speaker 4: Want to come with no makeup, no glam, hair in
- 38:34Speaker 4: a ponytail like.
- 38:36Speaker 2: Like, I'm ready, let's go, guys.
- 38:37Speaker 4: I would have at that point, I probably would have
- 38:39Speaker 4: come down in my pajamas, you know, like just I'm
- 38:41Speaker 4: just gonna throw my pajamas on, eat a morsel while
- 38:43Speaker 4: y'all look glad.
- 38:44Speaker 3: That's fine, but it's a waste of an hour a
- 38:45Speaker 3: half of my time to have my hair.
- 38:46Speaker 4: Makeup done for me to go wipe it all off
- 38:48Speaker 4: and go to bed.
- 38:51Speaker 3: But I need my bird first. I need my chicken
- 38:53Speaker 3: in my mouth.
- 38:54Speaker 1: And then yeah, she's like, look you have the protein.
- 38:57Speaker 1: So sorry, that's what it was. And I'm like, I listen,
- 39:00Speaker 1: I'm sorry, guys. I love him, Mamma. She's the only
- 39:02Speaker 1: one working. And once again she brings up the elephant
- 39:06Speaker 1: in the room, and Sutton starts crying because she's like,
- 39:12Speaker 1: why are you doing this to me again?
- 39:14Speaker 2: And Erica's even like, look what you said, Alex is like,
- 39:18Speaker 2: look it is weird. Bring it up. What happened?
- 39:25Speaker 4: Like you're politely yet politely trying to be like, Sutton,
- 39:29Speaker 4: just put this to rest, put it to rest, and
- 39:31Speaker 4: let's be done with it. Erica was very gently trying
- 39:34Speaker 4: to do that with Suddon. It went right over Sutton's head.
- 39:37Speaker 4: Sutton just does not want to talk about it. You
- 39:39Speaker 4: know that this will make a good reunion though, because
- 39:41Speaker 4: I know Andy Cohen will not just let this go.
- 39:44Speaker 4: Andy Cohen's going to get to the bottom of it
- 39:45Speaker 4: at third Union and be like, Sutton, we're here. You
- 39:47Speaker 4: got to tell us what the hell happened because it's
- 39:49Speaker 4: not dying down. You've made the story even bigger because
- 39:52Speaker 4: you don't want to talk about it.
- 39:53Speaker 3: Just just tell us what's happening. Like I'm hoping that'll happen.
- 39:56Speaker 3: If it doesn't happen at one of the next seven dinners, No.
- 39:59Speaker 2: It needs happened. And I I will say this.
- 40:03Speaker 1: Ston said that, you know she she doesn't believe that
- 40:08Speaker 1: Abby said that that He said call me, I'll give
- 40:12Speaker 1: you a t which made me think, oh, oh.
- 40:15Speaker 3: I do I believe said it?
- 40:17Speaker 2: Tell me why?
- 40:18Speaker 3: Because there's no way.
- 40:19Speaker 4: It's too much like like Amanda's new she doesn't really
- 40:22Speaker 4: know much, you know about the behind the scenes kind
- 40:24Speaker 4: of stuff. It's like her friend. She even named her friend, Alana.
- 40:28Speaker 4: She even named the friend that was there that talked
- 40:30Speaker 4: to Abby.
- 40:31Speaker 3: You know what, Page six is not hard to get
- 40:33Speaker 3: ahold of.
- 40:33Speaker 4: Abby needs to call page six and put his story
- 40:35Speaker 4: out there and tell everybody so we can all just like.
- 40:39Speaker 2: Me and you Alexis and come around.
- 40:41Speaker 3: Okay, auvy d m us for our phone number. Hey, Abby,
- 40:45Speaker 3: we need to hear the story. Like, let's just get
- 40:47Speaker 3: it out there, okay, and.
- 40:48Speaker 1: Unlike, oh see, we will not distort your voice. What
- 40:54Speaker 1: do you mean what remember when the person contacted Gina.
- 41:02Speaker 4: Oh sorry, Abby, we are gonna you are going to
- 41:05Speaker 4: have a face to put with the name.
- 41:06Speaker 2: In your voice.
- 41:10Speaker 4: You no, No, we are Yeah, we're gonna bring true truth.
- 41:17Speaker 2: Yes, you know where to find us. Okay.
- 41:21Speaker 1: The reason why I believe listen, I grew through I
- 41:24Speaker 1: think Abby did say it. Now, the reason why felt
- 41:28Speaker 1: confidence saying I don't think he said it. One thing
- 41:31Speaker 1: I do believe happened. I believe Abby did sign an
- 41:33Speaker 1: ironclad n d A.
- 41:35Speaker 4: Oh so he can't come to us, Carlos, that would
- 41:40Speaker 4: be a contract.
- 41:42Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 41:42Speaker 1: So she felt so confident when she was like, I
- 41:46Speaker 1: don't believe he said it.
- 41:48Speaker 2: I believe that he signed an n d A.
- 41:53Speaker 1: And son, if he did not have one, you're crazy
- 41:56Speaker 1: because you're sounding and he should have No, you.
- 41:58Speaker 4: Gotta have an India for a employee that you have
- 42:00Speaker 4: when you're on TV. But so maybe, but here's the
- 42:04Speaker 4: other thing. Does the NDA, I guess it would.
- 42:08Speaker 2: It would.
- 42:09Speaker 4: It would mean even for a like telling your side
- 42:12Speaker 4: of why you got fired or why you got let go.
- 42:14Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it would. It's bad.
- 42:17Speaker 3: Oh so then he's never going to reach out to us,
- 42:18Speaker 3: dang it.
- 42:19Speaker 1: If he did side one, That's why it is interesting
- 42:22Speaker 1: because look, if he did say it, it is weird
- 42:27Speaker 1: to make a comment like that knowing you did. But
- 42:30Speaker 1: I agree with you, Alexis. I don't think Amanda will
- 42:33Speaker 1: make that up.
- 42:35Speaker 2: It's so bizarre.
- 42:36Speaker 4: So maybe maybe maybe he said it and he knows
- 42:39Speaker 4: he can't really like, let's just say he said this
- 42:41Speaker 4: to put a little dig dig on Sutton because even
- 42:44Speaker 4: he knows, even if Amanda does call, or she he
- 42:47Speaker 4: did call Amanda, he can't give her any information. But
- 42:50Speaker 4: it's still gay. It still put a dagger in Sutton's heart.
- 42:52Speaker 4: So maybe that was behind the closed door, like behind
- 42:55Speaker 4: the doorway of getting to Sutton and being like, yeah, girl,
- 42:59Speaker 4: I can't tell the story because I signed an ironclad NDA,
- 43:02Speaker 4: but I'm still going to jab ye'll lit'tle give you
- 43:04Speaker 4: a little run for your back, because Sutton does seem
- 43:06Speaker 4: way too You're right, she seems way.
- 43:07Speaker 3: Too calm about like, oh, is he gonna really tell
- 43:10Speaker 3: his side?
- 43:11Speaker 4: It has to be that they have the nda has
- 43:13Speaker 4: to be because she's wait, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 43:18Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's true. It's true.
- 43:20Speaker 1: That's why I'm like, Okay, on second thought, I agree
- 43:23Speaker 1: with you, Like it's sort of the sting that look,
- 43:28Speaker 1: I believe Avi was hurt whatever happened, even Jennifer Tilly's
- 43:32Speaker 1: like I expected it to be, like Okay, they're mad
- 43:35Speaker 1: at each other or she's mad at Oh yeah, let
- 43:37Speaker 1: me come back.
- 43:39Speaker 4: When you have an employee that's basically like your best
- 43:42Speaker 4: friend or you like my hair and makeup.
- 43:44Speaker 3: Girl's been with me for twenty years, you know. My
- 43:46Speaker 3: sister's been with me for four or five years.
- 43:48Speaker 4: Like, when you have people that are that close to
- 43:50Speaker 4: you and work with you, you do form a true friendship.
- 43:53Speaker 4: So regardless of what happened between Sutton and Auby, it's
- 43:55Speaker 4: still gonna hurt, and both of them probably hurt. They're
- 43:58Speaker 4: both probably hurt, and Abby probably does I still want
- 44:00Speaker 4: his job with Sutton. I mean it would be wouldn't
- 44:02Speaker 4: be a fun job. I'd love to be Ston's assistant.
- 44:04Speaker 4: I mean, although I wouldn't take her shit, probably probably
- 44:06Speaker 4: be a little bit more.
- 44:07Speaker 3: I don't know. I might have lost my job one
- 44:09Speaker 3: day two, but.
- 44:11Speaker 4: Anyway, I mean it would be fun to be her assistant.
- 44:14Speaker 4: So I'm sure obvious sad, you know, but I think
- 44:17Speaker 4: Sutton's her too. She had tears. Those were legitimate tears.
- 44:19Speaker 4: That was not a fake cry like some OC people
- 44:22Speaker 4: have done. It was real tears. Okay, so there's pain.
- 44:33Speaker 2: I picked up what you dropped. Thank you.
- 44:35Speaker 1: Okay, all of that being said, alexis either way for me, Okay,
- 44:43Speaker 1: but just yeah, Jennifer Tieley, Oh, she's trying to like
- 44:51Speaker 1: have conversation with someting. Sun shuts her down and then
- 44:56Speaker 1: she goes to the bathroom with Kyle and then she
- 44:58Speaker 1: drops the bomb and says, this is the reason why
- 45:02Speaker 1: Garcel left because when it's about Sutton, Sutton only wants
- 45:07Speaker 1: it to be about her. And I'm like, oh shit,
- 45:10Speaker 1: Jennifer Tilly just dropped the bomb of the episode that
- 45:14Speaker 1: this is who you are.
- 45:15Speaker 2: It has to be about you.
- 45:16Speaker 3: But do you believe do you? Okay?
- 45:18Speaker 4: Because she said she phrased it like my view on it,
- 45:21Speaker 4: And I don't know, we'd have to rewatch it to
- 45:22Speaker 4: get the thing.
- 45:22Speaker 3: But my view on that was Sutton or Jennifer Tilly.
- 45:25Speaker 4: Who I love and she's just so funny. I like
- 45:28Speaker 4: seeing her Sirius side this time too. But I took
- 45:32Speaker 4: it like Jennifer said, maybe this is why Garcel had
- 45:36Speaker 4: had enough, because Jennifer's got and you know, they did
- 45:38Speaker 4: go they did flash back and show just this season
- 45:41Speaker 4: where Sutton has snapped at and been a little bit
- 45:44Speaker 4: at Jennifer, you know. And the thing is is you,
- 45:46Speaker 4: you know, just like when your kids slammed the door
- 45:48Speaker 4: in your face, but they're not mad at you.
- 45:49Speaker 3: They're really mad at something that happened at school.
- 45:50Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, it's like you do take things out
- 45:53Speaker 4: of the person closest to you.
- 45:55Speaker 3: So I wonder if that's part of what's going on
- 45:57Speaker 3: with Sutton.
- 45:57Speaker 4: But also there are very there are several that you
- 46:00Speaker 4: can rack up on your fingers of times where sudden
- 46:03Speaker 4: bit at Jennifer out of a little bit out of line.
- 46:07Speaker 4: And I thought Jennifer was just saying, maybe this is
- 46:09Speaker 4: why Garcel left. Maybe this has something to do with it,
- 46:11Speaker 4: because it's always about Sutton. But you're saying you think
- 46:14Speaker 4: Jennifer knows this is why Garcel left, or is that
- 46:17Speaker 4: you think Jennifer has more knowledge and thinks in this Okay, yeah, wow.
- 46:23Speaker 4: Is Jennifer and gar are Jennifer and Garcel friends?
- 46:26Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 46:26Speaker 3: Friendly? Oh they are?
- 46:27Speaker 1: Well, they're yeah, they're friendly. Courtesy of obviously Son introducing.
- 46:31Speaker 1: But I believe that, Look, you know this, when you're
- 46:35Speaker 1: not filming, or after you're you're filming, rather you talk,
- 46:38Speaker 1: you know, like after you're done filming, you go with
- 46:41Speaker 1: your girlfriend and you recap what happened.
- 46:43Speaker 2: I think Suddon and Garcel did that.
- 46:44Speaker 1: Jennifer tib was in the room, and I think Garcela
- 46:47Speaker 1: had a lot of things to say because Garcel did
- 46:49Speaker 1: say last season and you have to go. Garcel did
- 46:52Speaker 1: say last season to Sutton, the conversations we have off camera,
- 47:01Speaker 1: I bring them up on camera. You don't have my
- 47:04Speaker 1: back as if you don't feel this way.
- 47:07Speaker 3: But I thought, okay, correct me if I'm wrong.
- 47:10Speaker 4: I thought, because I did watch the reunion last year
- 47:12Speaker 4: before we started recapping this, just so I could kind
- 47:14Speaker 4: of get a sense of the women, right, So I
- 47:16Speaker 4: don't I didn't watch the whole season, so I need
- 47:18Speaker 4: your help on this. But I thought that Garcel completely
- 47:23Speaker 4: cut off Sutton, like Sutton has not talked to her
- 47:25Speaker 4: after filming is done. I thought Sutton doesn't know why
- 47:27Speaker 4: Garcel ever left and has completely avoided the friendship and
- 47:31Speaker 4: there is no friendship. I thought Garcel ghosted Sutton. But
- 47:35Speaker 4: you're making it seem.
- 47:36Speaker 1: Like you you did after the reunion Garcel ghosted Sutton. However, However,
- 47:44Speaker 1: all of last season, before the reunion, uh huh, camera,
- 47:49Speaker 1: Garcel would bring up Kyle's relationship with Morgan and ask
- 47:54Speaker 1: questions around Kyle and to Kyle while Sutton was there,
- 48:00Speaker 1: and Garcel would be like, we feel this way, and
- 48:02Speaker 1: we'll look at like, well, bitch, are you not going
- 48:04Speaker 1: to tell how you feel? And I will be silent,
- 48:08Speaker 1: and Garcel would say, interview, we talked about this off camera,
- 48:13Speaker 1: and I'm bringing it up and you're quiet as a
- 48:15Speaker 1: church mouse.
- 48:17Speaker 3: But I thought that you and I had this conversation.
- 48:19Speaker 4: And it's kind of like there are times when you
- 48:21Speaker 4: film with your castmates where you say, this is not
- 48:24Speaker 4: a TV conversation, especially if it's about your kid, if
- 48:27Speaker 4: it's about something you really don't want to be brought
- 48:28Speaker 4: up on TV. Don't you think that maybe Garcel or
- 48:32Speaker 4: some and said I don't want to talk about this
- 48:33Speaker 4: on camera and Garcel overstepped her footing. Or do you
- 48:36Speaker 4: feel like you feel like whatever you say to your
- 48:38Speaker 4: castmate during filming season, it should just be all all
- 48:41Speaker 4: It should all be for you know, it can be
- 48:43Speaker 4: all be used because I don't I feel like if
- 48:46Speaker 4: you tell your friend please don't please don't talk about this.
- 48:49Speaker 4: I'm just telling you something that's really hard for me today.
- 48:52Speaker 4: I just don't want to talk about it. It's not
- 48:53Speaker 4: storylined this and that I feel like if you have
- 48:55Speaker 4: a true friendship, not a TV friendship, your true friend
- 48:58Speaker 4: is gonna honor that. So I would have felt like
- 49:02Speaker 4: Sutton and Garcel had that conversation off camera and Sutton
- 49:06Speaker 4: was sitting or going I didn't want to bring up
- 49:07Speaker 4: on camera and Garcel just did anyway, Okay.
- 49:10Speaker 1: No, no, Because the thing is Garcel said it a
- 49:15Speaker 1: couple of times and even even confronted something about it,
- 49:18Speaker 1: and Sutton never said that because I do I do
- 49:22Speaker 1: believe strongly Garcel was such a good friend of Sutton
- 49:26Speaker 1: that if Sun said I don't want to bring it up.
- 49:28Speaker 1: Garcel will never do it because because because because Garcella
- 49:32Speaker 1: also had that stance when it came to seeing Erica
- 49:36Speaker 1: Jane say something about her children.
- 49:38Speaker 2: So they do have that pact, right, all the girls do.
- 49:41Speaker 2: Don't bring this up.
- 49:43Speaker 1: But I don't believe that Ston ever told garselves we
- 49:46Speaker 1: can gossip about this, just don't bring it up on camera,
- 49:50Speaker 1: because Gel, as a true friend, would have respected Sutton's request.
- 49:54Speaker 4: Okay, well, then that is something that they just have
- 49:58Speaker 4: to work out together. I mean that's probably why they're
- 50:00Speaker 4: not friends then, because Garcel's like, why are you freezing
- 50:03Speaker 4: up on me?
- 50:03Speaker 2: Why?
- 50:03Speaker 3: Why are you? It makes you feel like you don't
- 50:05Speaker 3: really know your friend.
- 50:06Speaker 4: If they just freeze up on you and you don't
- 50:08Speaker 4: know the reason why, it makes you think, why are
- 50:10Speaker 4: you doing this?
- 50:11Speaker 3: Like what we talked about this?
- 50:13Speaker 4: You know we're on a reality show. You didn't say,
- 50:15Speaker 4: don't talk about this on camera. You didn't you didn't
- 50:18Speaker 4: do a pact with me, like a peaky promise that
- 50:19Speaker 4: this stays between us, you know? So you're right, that
- 50:22Speaker 4: could that could you'd finally get tired and burnt out
- 50:25Speaker 4: on your friend and be like, I.
- 50:26Speaker 3: Just don't know who you are. I don't because you
- 50:29Speaker 3: are one way and then you don't you're not. I
- 50:31Speaker 3: don't know.
- 50:31Speaker 4: I do feel like I feel like Sutton after we
- 50:34Speaker 4: keep talking this through. I feel like since last year,
- 50:37Speaker 4: I think she's kind of having an identity crisis.
- 50:39Speaker 3: I think she is. I think the last name change
- 50:42Speaker 3: is a real thing.
- 50:43Speaker 4: I think she's having identity crisis right now, even last season.
- 50:47Speaker 4: From what you've said, it sounds like she was even
- 50:48Speaker 4: starting it then, and I think it's bleeding into this season.
- 50:51Speaker 4: So maybe by next season, after she's watched all this playback,
- 50:55Speaker 4: maybe she'll start to get back comfortable with who she
- 50:58Speaker 4: really is.
- 50:59Speaker 3: Again m hm, I agree with you.
- 51:01Speaker 1: I actually agree with you. I think the I didn't
- 51:03Speaker 1: think about that till you said it. I actually agree
- 51:05Speaker 1: with you. I think the last name change.
- 51:08Speaker 3: Just the who last year of her life. I think
- 51:10Speaker 3: the whole last year of her life.
- 51:11Speaker 4: Yeah too has been a very big like who am
- 51:15Speaker 4: I really?
- 51:16Speaker 3: Who am I?
- 51:17Speaker 1: You know?
- 51:18Speaker 2: Yeah? No good point points are made. Points are made.
- 51:21Speaker 1: So next week, rain Drops, we will see what happened
- 51:25Speaker 1: when Kyle tells something what Jennifer Tilly said to her. Hey, producers,
- 51:31Speaker 1: I'm teasy, and we will see.
- 51:37Speaker 2: And confront Jennifer Tilly about it.
- 51:40Speaker 3: Did you watch did you watch the trailer for next
- 51:42Speaker 3: season next week?
- 51:43Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 51:44Speaker 3: Oh looks good. I don't know why I like Beverly.
- 51:47Speaker 4: Hills so much because a lot of people are like,
- 51:49Speaker 4: it's just too boring, and I'm just like, it is
- 51:51Speaker 4: not boring to me.
- 51:52Speaker 3: I am like, I love it.
- 51:55Speaker 2: No, no, no, the thing is the thing?
- 51:58Speaker 1: Is it just having those low burn But listen, we'll
- 52:01Speaker 1: see what happens. We'll see what happened. But again, Amanda,
- 52:05Speaker 1: thank you for your services.
- 52:07Speaker 4: And maybe you earned your zilch paycheck because they don't
- 52:10Speaker 4: pay people anything the.
- 52:10Speaker 3: First year.
- 52:13Speaker 4: You're earning your you're earning your your next year's paycheck
- 52:16Speaker 4: is what you're.
- 52:17Speaker 2: Doing exactly exactly. Well, Lexus, thank you so much, my love.
- 52:21Speaker 2: You have a great weekend. I'll see you next week.
- 52:24Speaker 4: Bye guys, Bye baby bye.
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