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- 0:01Chinpei bays yud Dalit okay so again we're renting.
- 0:08These are cases when you have Jews living with a non Jew and
- 0:10we're going to rent out some space from the non Jew.
- 0:13So yud Dalit sahru miskiro olequito lisman.
- 0:17So we learned you could in order to if you have a non Jew who's
- 0:21there once there's two Jews or more, you have to rent from the
- 0:25non Jew, right? However, it doesn't have to be
- 0:28specifically from the non Jew who lives there, the owner of
- 0:31that apartment you could also pay off.
- 0:34Again, it doesn't have to be much, it could just be whatever
- 0:37it has to be. It could be from any one of his
- 0:40employees. Now if you rent it out from one
- 0:44of his employees for a specific amount of time, yesterday we
- 0:50pointed out there's no really limit.
- 0:53Now I did not do any research the mission.
- 0:54Abura says look at Hila, you shouldn't rent it for longer
- 0:57than 20 years just to mention that.
- 1:00But yeish la yen, I'm not sure what the minnog is okay and he
- 1:06doesn't explain exactly, you know, it doesn't explain the
- 1:08reason for that okay. So anyways, alpha Pisa silco to
- 1:12Hazman Mihiot Sahiro O Laquito. Let's say you give it time.
- 1:18This month, 20 years for example, We'll follow the
- 1:21mission of birth. I'm not sure if that's the
- 1:23minute or not. So anyways, let's say you give
- 1:25it 20 years and the employee is terminated or moves on.
- 1:31He finds a better job and he moves on.
- 1:33He's not there anymore. It doesn't matter since he did
- 1:35it as a representative. Even if he wasn't appointed as a
- 1:39representative, right? It could be against the will of
- 1:41the owner once he gets appointed.
- 1:43And once he's an employee, you can use him and pay him money
- 1:46and he can keep the money himself.
- 1:47He doesn't have to give it to the owner.
- 1:49So anyways, so it works for that time that they specified even
- 1:54though he's not there anymore. Of all, you don't specify a
- 1:58time, you just say I want to rent it from you.
- 2:01So then but like just like the owner can like we mentioned
- 2:04before can go back and change his mind at any time because
- 2:07there wasn't a time specified cave on right?
- 2:09Let me mention some caucus if you have to return the money or
- 2:12not. Fine cave on chastilko and the
- 2:14Battel has to get out. Once the employee is gone for
- 2:18whatever reason. SO2 the ski route is over and he
- 2:22has to you have to now rent all over again.
- 2:25Okay Agas is very similar. The Who I didn't Imsakhlu me giz
- 2:28Barra meloh works for the king or they're in charge of the
- 2:35treasury, whatever. So the same thing when he's
- 2:37staalik Lagomre Minamelech and he's no longer there, he doesn't
- 2:42work for the king anymore at all.
- 2:44So then it's just exact same Alakha if there was a Zman
- 2:47continues. If there's no Zman it's over of
- 2:49all in law silk Iraq Mina Guizborough.
- 2:52He's still an employee of the government or the king, but he's
- 2:55just no longer in the treasury. The Dinokhel Prasamelech.
- 2:59He's still eating off from accepting checks from the king.
- 3:03A dying Mikray Sahiro Laquito is still considered an employee.
- 3:08EU Haul is coming menu. You can still rent from him and
- 3:11it doesn't end even if it was just dumb because he's still an
- 3:14employee. It doesn't matter if you switch
- 3:15positions, even if you get demoted.
- 3:17Well, lah Hain gums hirotorishon a dying Kayan and therefore you
- 3:22don't have to rent again. It continues.
- 3:25OK, Ted, Bob IM Easter El Veno Yehudi Darim Babait Ekhad Okay.
- 3:32So now you have, I don't know, they're in one building or one
- 3:36apartment building, but the case is they each have their own
- 3:42their own room, right? Either they're roommates, they
- 3:45share an apartment. Well, not roommates.
- 3:47They they could be. They share an apartment and they
- 3:48each have their own room. Or it could be they each have
- 3:51their own apartment completely in the same building.
- 3:54So then sorry lise cormian yudi ula Ari in Israel.
- 3:58So there's another Jew somewhere in that building or in within
- 4:01that huts there. Then you still even though you
- 4:04are sharing some degree with the non Jew since you have your own
- 4:10separate bedroom your own separate apartment then then you
- 4:14need to you have to rent from the goi.
- 4:18I got Im ish akola ha dirabifniatsmo.
- 4:21That's assuming you all have the same you have your own apartment
- 4:25or your own bedroom. But he holds if you are complete
- 4:29partners and mommish roommates happen sometimes people
- 4:34especially in the college university.
- 4:37So if you have you have a roommate and he's not Jewish and
- 4:41you're sharing everything then you don't have to rent from him.
- 4:44That's if you own it. That's if you're sharing
- 4:45everything at Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Murrow points out that there
- 4:49aren't many Akroni who argue on this and they say it's a
- 4:52Makhlok. Basically, if you're a partner,
- 4:54if you're a partner and you even and you have another Jew you
- 4:57have to make an error with and then what about this non Jew?
- 5:00So even if you're a partner and you're in the same room so it's
- 5:02a Makhlok, it's if you still need to rent from him the ruadin
- 5:07shnay in amirudhi Madani makhay govna bevaidakhat.
- 5:10Sorry, he scored me Shnaham. So the den is you have to rent
- 5:16from each nonju, you have to pay off each nonjun.
- 5:20If you're doing it for the whole city and you're doing it from
- 5:22from the municipality or the government or whoever you
- 5:25whoever you choose. So you just need one because
- 5:28it's like 1. It's one entity.
- 5:30But if you have an apartment building and you have a bunch of
- 5:33going nonjus, so you have to go rent from each one.
- 5:37And then so the Mission Borough points out that I mean that
- 5:41there are my points out that if you have two roommates together,
- 5:48they're non juice and they're sharing the apartment, sharing
- 5:51the bedroom, sharing everything, then you only have to rent from
- 5:54one of them. And again some say no.
- 5:57Michigan Burrough points out, some say it doesn't matter if
- 5:59they're a partner or not. Two different, they're two
- 6:02different non juice and therefore you have to rent and
- 6:05pay off each one. So that's a month.
- 6:08Look at by if the exact roommates Okay Ted Zion imesh
- 6:15lehena yehudi hamishas hirim Ole kitti Mr. alium darim viveto you
- 6:20have an Anju and he has a big apartment or a big apartment
- 6:24building and he has an employees and he gives apartments to his
- 6:29employees whether they rent or don't rent.
- 6:33He's there. He's the employer and he owns
- 6:35it. Ain diratam khashuva dira
- 6:39shiasuruze alzeh. So now that they live there,
- 6:43they're not also one on the other right?
- 6:49You don't have to rent from the non Jew.
- 6:51If there are Jews there, they have to make an error from with
- 6:54with each other. But since they're under him then
- 6:59they don't have to. They don't have to pay off the
- 7:02the owner, particularly if he lives there right?
- 7:06If the non Jew doesn't live there at all and there's only
- 7:10Jewish renters in the apartment building, then you wouldn't need
- 7:13to. But if you have a non Jew in the
- 7:17building, let's say the owner has one of the apartment
- 7:19buildings for himself and he rents out all the other ones to
- 7:22Jews. So you still have.
- 7:23So since they're employees of him, they're yeah, since they're
- 7:30his, since all the renters are employees, so then you don't
- 7:34have to rent from him. Now it could be it's again, it's
- 7:37a discussion. It could be that you either have
- 7:39to have Fisa's yard or that the owner has something to take in
- 7:44their apartment. Or it could be that he has he
- 7:47has the right to kick him out whenever he wants.
- 7:50But if you have a proper contract and the owner, the non
- 7:54Jewish owner cannot kick out any of them, even if they're
- 7:57employees. So then it could be that they do
- 7:59have to rent. It's a question, Okay haga this
- 8:06Herut or mission Berg cracks. Who's hero is the way it's
- 8:09supposed to be written. Who's hero?
- 8:10Shoini arudi aino osser insakru mubalabyte.
- 8:14He holds it once a Jew is renting, if he's also an
- 8:20employee, then it doesn't make it.
- 8:23It's us. You don't have you never.
- 8:24If you're the employee, that that owner is never going to
- 8:27make you that you need to rent from him.
- 8:29You said these guys have to make their own error.
- 8:33No, they're done. They don't have the Jews
- 8:37themselves. They don't.
- 8:40Why not? Ain't Austrian Albania hatzer
- 8:45the ain't Sri henly statif ah okay.
- 8:50So the Mission Bureau says you're right in Nandalit
- 8:57ainsrihimlichd. So the one or whoever is there
- 9:05who's ever renting from the Nanji, you're right, does not
- 9:08need to participate in the air of Okay.
- 9:16So. So it depends if they're
- 9:24employees. The Mr. Bure says you don't have
- 9:27to make an. They don't have to make an air
- 9:28of if they're all employees, but if they're not employees of the
- 9:33owner of the building, which is almost an which is basically
- 9:36always but for sure they have to make an error we're.
- 9:39Talking about migrant partners that you know that live in your
- 9:41house to pick the fruit. That's what these people are
- 9:45experimentally. Keep them on that.
- 9:48OK, very good. You're designing shte hatzero
- 9:51zolifnim Mizo. You have two hatzeros, one
- 9:55inside the other, right? The inner and the outer Vista
- 9:59El, the eni Hoodi bapanimit Vista El bachitsona.
- 10:01So in the inner one you have a Jew and a non Jew and the vis
- 10:07and there's just the Yusrael Bachhitsona Okay.
- 10:10Oh she's stroll the eni hoodi bachhitsona viisor bafilo Ena
- 10:24hoodie of epidemic ushina used to alien bachitzona or you have
- 10:28only a non Jew on the inside and two Jews on the outside.
- 10:32So in all these cases oser what comes out is you have to if you
- 10:40have to the non Jew would be oser unless you run from him.
- 10:43You could you can run from him and then it's okay.
- 10:46But when you run if you don't rent from him, so in the outer
- 10:52khatzer khatzer, in the outer khatzer you can you cannot
- 10:57carry, but on the inner khatzer you could carry.
- 11:01Because the whole issue is is the people or the non Jew who's
- 11:04on the inner one has to walk through the outer one and on the
- 11:09and on the inner one there's no problem by itself because on the
- 11:13inner one it's just a Jew by himself or one Jew with the non
- 11:17Jew by himself and one non Jew with one Jew never needs to do
- 11:21anything. So to carry from my from the
- 11:24inner house to an inner hutzer is okay but not to the outside.
- 11:28Hutzer VA shamisha Omar shafilo Eno yehudi by Panimi to be sorel
- 11:33Ekhat bakhitsona OSA. And some some say that even if
- 11:39the non Jew is in the inside and a Jew is on the outside that is
- 11:44and there's just one Jew and one non Jew, that's enough to make
- 11:48it us to carry in the hizona. All right, which number says the
- 11:55Lakha is not like the Yashimisha olmer?
- 11:58Usually it's not. Usually it's it's the same as
- 12:00some villasho olmer. OK yurkhat Ena yehudi shihiskir
- 12:06beto la cabrero en ye hooddi one apartment, one home.
- 12:11OK. The owner rents it to an Anju 1
- 12:15Anju to another Anju evening arlo shrum tfisa babait.
- 12:20So if the owner has some kind of tfisa right you can you can use
- 12:26it. Doesn't mean he actually has to
- 12:28put something in there. He It's sheesh lo reshut la NIA
- 12:32sham shrum kaling. You have to have just the
- 12:35rights. Then you call him Lee Scormi
- 12:37Meno. Then you can rent from either
- 12:40one of the non juice. You can rent from the owner, or
- 12:44you can rent from the guy who leased it out.
- 12:47You have a choice, even against the will of one of them, you
- 12:51know, as long as you go to either one of them and either
- 12:53one of them agrees, you're good to go.
- 12:55The imlonish Arlo shunts Visa but if you didn't have any
- 12:58rights to it, IMI akola mascola salika sokher talks mano If the
- 13:02owner can kick him out then you hold im lease carmi mano then
- 13:05you can still use the owner Vimla Eno Moya alinken ysu
- 13:09Gurumia sokher. But if the owner can't kick him
- 13:15out and the owner has no tfi satt haga vua denim akher sheesh
- 13:26lot's FISA babait yukholim lis kamimeno du lagana Mr. Laquita.
- 13:30On that there are my ads. You can even rent from anyone
- 13:33who has FISA on The Who has rights to the house.
- 13:37And it's no different or worse than an employee.
- 13:41Okay, you're Ted Hutter. She's Servein Hu.
- 13:49You buy it. For this it helps to look at the
- 13:51picture I just sent out. But I'll try and explain it.
- 13:54So you have basically in the picture there's two Hutseros.
- 14:00The main thing is that there's one Hutser that you have a Jew
- 14:05and a non Jew. Two separate houses, one each
- 14:08one one's Jewish. One's non Jewish leads into the
- 14:10Hutser. Now next door attached to the
- 14:15House of the Jew, there's another attached house.
- 14:18This house is not attached to this Hut, Sir.
- 14:20It's like on the outside from the back end.
- 14:22Ubai eh hutchiso Vito shows that Eno peturu hutzer behalonot
- 14:27benayum. So it's not connected at all to
- 14:29the hutzer. But you have a window that
- 14:31connects one house to the other house.
- 14:34So Eno Yoko le Arab e-mail. What it means is you can't make
- 14:43an just make an air of with the Jewish neighbor, the two Jews
- 14:47next to each other using the colon right?
- 14:50Because normally through a colon you can connect.
- 14:52You could make an air with the colon.
- 14:54So it means you can't only get away with an air of through the
- 14:58colon and not rent from the goy. But if you rent from the non
- 15:02Jew, then you could connect and make an air of with your Jewish
- 15:06friend. And then from any one of the
- 15:08houses they can carry through the houses whatever into the
- 15:12cutter. Because the second you stroll
- 15:15doesn't have access to the right, the second one doesn't
- 15:18have any access, so you don't have to include the so you don't
- 15:24have an issue with those streams.
- 15:26There's no for the one cutter. There's no to make an air of and
- 15:30for that one Hut said there's only one Jew and one non Jew.
- 15:33So there's no there's no here to make an to make an error.
- 15:36But if you want to be able to carry from this other Jew and
- 15:39include him. So now if you're going to
- 15:41include him you have to include him all the way through.
- 15:44Either you include him or you don't include him and then this
- 15:46way. So then you you couldn't make an
- 15:48error. If you do rent the way the shelf
- 15:51and ark reads is if you're not. If you want to try and not rent
- 15:53from the goy then it doesn't work to make an error of just
- 15:56because the two homes are attached.
- 15:58You would think why not okay avaal in Pettakpattu Akbannayam.
- 16:03But if there's a full doorway then you could the hmishomers
- 16:09Afin Pettakpattu Akbannayam usser.
- 16:11And some say even if it's a full doorway between the two homes,
- 16:15you're not allowed to unless you make an air of and Mission vs
- 16:19Lakhathila one should be a Mkana.
- 16:28Yeah if the non Jew doesn't agree so then there may be room
- 16:31to be makeup ha hatzer shaystrail the anal yehudi
- 16:38shuruyimba. Now if you have a hatzer and
- 16:44okay so you have one Jew, one Nanju the Hayu Khalonot Pitukhot
- 16:47Mi Bait Yustra El Zer La Bait Ystra El Z The E two homes were
- 17:00attached to each other. One of only one of them is
- 17:02connected to the hats there with the Naanju.
- 17:05So alpha pishi Hemrutarumlotsim invite Lobai dera Khalonot Hare
- 17:09he masriumot Lobai dera takhim Wipiney haga svina similar
- 17:24Halaka by Svina as an apartment. Svina Sheesh by Australian
- 17:28darling VH Lambati Miyukhadi So you have Jews that go on a
- 17:32cruise ship and each one has their own separate room to the
- 17:34room to themselves Srikhim Lahari.
- 17:37They have to make an air of again if they're all sharing
- 17:40food together and it's all catered together and they're all
- 17:43they're eating the same hall So I believe they don't need to
- 17:45make an air of so it's but here everyone is separate so Srikhim
- 17:49Lahari each one needs to make an error because they're eating
- 17:51separately The lease score with Sugarman and Yehudi Bal has fina
- 17:56and you have to rent from the owner of the ship because he's a
- 18:00if he's a non Jew. Ola have Leo Biscara has fina or
- 18:04when you rent out you pay for your rights to get on the
- 18:07cruise. You tell them you're also
- 18:09renting for to be able to carry on Chavez or you don't have to
- 18:13you don't have to specify why you're doing it to carry.
- 18:16You just have to specify you're renting it out.
- 18:18In particular for you have to rent it out.
- 18:21Not exactly should exact wording, maybe extra for chavis
- 18:23or just you want to rent out the space.
- 18:28I don't know. Did we learn it or about to
- 18:29learn it? I think we're about to learn it.
- 18:31Each each of you and and having to do this or as long as one
- 18:35does it only one. We learned.
- 18:41We learned if they if they're making an area together only one
- 18:45to to to only one of them needs to rent it out from the from the
- 18:49Nacho. Now this is only if it's the
- 18:51owner of this fina what do you have to rent it out from the
- 18:54other non Jews on the cruise. So we're going to see no that's
- 18:59really in shouldn't pay dollar. So I think we're going to get
- 19:02there. Let's see, because they're not
- 19:05there. Because the only time you have
- 19:07to rent from a non Jew is if he's there on a on a permanent
- 19:12basis. Or 30 days, 30 days or more.
- 19:15Let's see, shouldn't pay gimmo kashein aniyohudi by it aino me
- 19:22akiv okay if the non Jew is not in the building and he's not
- 19:26there for Chavez, He doesn't. Well let's read it.
- 19:28Olive aniyohudiya darhimishini Australian vena uni Ena en
- 19:41yehudi buva. So once there's two Jews they
- 19:44have to make an arrow hatzeres. Now that's even if there's one
- 19:47non Jew you have to rent it out. Eno osir he's not he doesn't
- 19:52make, he doesn't ruin it for you without renting.
- 19:55You know you don't have to rent from him if he's not there for
- 19:58Shabbos, like he's in a different city and he's not
- 20:02going to be able to get there on time.
- 20:05VRVU mutarium. They just have to make an arrow
- 20:09and that's it. Bah and Yehudi Bechavez.
- 20:12But what if he he shows up on Chavez?
- 20:15So it turns out that it really you're supposed to include him.
- 20:18If he's within a day's drive and you assume he's he's far away,
- 20:22he's not going to make it. But it turns out he came
- 20:26somehow. He showed up on Chavez.
- 20:28So then it turns out that the Arab is, is, is, is.
- 20:34He owes it to you in the middle. The Arab is ruined in the middle
- 20:36of Chavez. Normally we say once you have an
- 20:40air of 100% kosher when Chavez starts, you don't have to worry
- 20:45about it continues. But this is kind of like a
- 20:47guille milsa. It turns out that since you
- 20:50thought that Nanju was not was nearby, but it turns out
- 20:52obviously he was able to get there on Chavez.
- 20:55So it also is you in the middle of Chavez and the air of itself
- 20:58is also butt though. So you have to do a new air of
- 21:01and a new and a new. All right.
- 21:04We don't make a new air of on Chavez.
- 21:05So what do you do? Let's read it.
- 21:09Umiu, what do you do? Yeh kholim lis khlami menou
- 21:11bechavez you in the middle of Chavez you rent it out from the
- 21:14non Jew. You can't rent it with money.
- 21:16You rent it with something else, like food via kharkha yuva tella
- 21:20havero via yahin mutar. And then one person does a
- 21:24bittal to the other one and then the other one is allowed to
- 21:27carry. Not you.
- 21:29And again, we learned to you both want to carry, just have to
- 21:31take turns. And you what?
- 21:38What do you mean? Between between the two of them,
- 21:40the two shoes still need an air. The air will buckle on the on
- 21:43the yeah if, how. If the goyish hero makes it
- 21:51uster, then the air of itself is buttel.
- 21:54Even though they made an an air of we don't say hosier veneer,
- 21:58it doesn't wake up once. Once it's buttel, if it becomes
- 22:02puzzle, the air of is also becomes puzzle.
- 22:06The kosher cane he made to Obeka Khavimbushava Shivvato Eta de
- 22:09Cabrero via Yahi Mutari. So too he had a non jue there
- 22:13and he dies and let's say right, let's say and you don't have to
- 22:18make one second. What's the case here?
- 22:24Oh yeah, he came, he came, there's the case is he came on
- 22:27Chavez. So he showed up, he ruined the
- 22:31Arab. He ruined because he didn't rent
- 22:33it from him and then he dies. So then you can just rent it
- 22:38from you can just be mivato 1 to another.
- 22:40But normally if it was a kosher air and you rent it from him, he
- 22:46was there and you rent it from him and then he dies on Chavez.
- 22:49We learned it's good for the Chavez.
- 22:52For the next Chavez you might have to make a new one with the
- 22:55yoursham. It depends if you did at least
- 22:56one or not. You're a coveyor time or not
- 22:59okay. Let's start chimp a dollar
- 23:01olive. It's any hoodie.
- 23:04Aksanai imma akev. What about a guest non Jew?
- 23:08Is there temporarily any hoodie? A nicknasla Shame aksanu and non
- 23:12Jew comes and he's there. He's like for a hotel cruise.
- 23:16He's just there for shabbos for a week.
- 23:20Im Nickna Shalobi. Shoot in Australia alone.
- 23:22If he forces himself to be a guest, he steals the tickets and
- 23:27gets on to the cruise, or he just, he sneaks into the hotel
- 23:30and he's sleeping there. You don't have to rent from him.
- 23:32He's not. He's not supposed to be there.
- 23:34Right? Or he's just, you know, or he
- 23:36bullies himself. Yeah.
- 23:38Or. Or he just, you know, he
- 23:40threatens to cause trouble and so no one kicks him out.
- 23:43So you don't have to pay him anything.
- 23:46The IM Nikhnas Virshud. But if he has permission, IM
- 23:50who? Raghilavo Osir Miyad Vim Eno
- 23:52Raghila Eno Seraj Lafarge Loshimian.
- 23:54The only time you have to pay him off, you have to rent from
- 23:57him is if he's there for 30 days or more or if he's always
- 24:01coming. He's a regular.
- 24:02He's a regular guest. He's always coming for a few
- 24:04days here and a few days there, but he's always there.
- 24:06It's a regular. I don't know exactly the the
- 24:10parameters, but he's a regular. So then he's bays Andrei Hayel
- 24:17Hamela Shanikkun Silva Batea Y Hudim.
- 24:19You have an army that comes and they decided to to stay at the
- 24:23at the to stay in the area, to stay in the Jews homes or they
- 24:27take homes. Part of the hats there.
- 24:29Bain Mukasaka, Bain, Baratsan, Imatsal Babal.
- 24:45Because it's your apartment and you have a visa there otherwise.
- 24:51Otherwise you have to rent from them.
- 24:53And one second, one second here. Yeah.
- 25:04Also if it's they're just there, the the only time it's a
- 25:08problem, Mission Borough points out is if you're there for 30
- 25:10days or more, if the army comes for a few days that's also an
- 25:14Oxenha. You don't have to run from them.
- 25:16And if the only if they're there for 30 days.
- 25:17So either you have to FISA or 30 days or it's less than 30 days
- 25:22and you don't have to run from them.
- 25:23And he also just points out this is not a case of Shalob beer
- 25:26shoot, right, But they force themselves there because we're
- 25:29assuming it's your own government.
- 25:31And Dina de Mocles said Dina. And they allowed them to be
- 25:34there, but yeah, it would be a foreign government and they had
- 25:36no right to be there. Then it would be what we just
- 25:38read, Chilobrishut and in Osirlola.