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Thursday Thunderdome w/Michael Lasker · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast from the Volume Podcast Network.
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  Speaker 1: It's Thursday. It's Oscar's week. That means it's time to
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  Speaker 1: enter the Thursday Thunderdome. On today's show, our special guests
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  Speaker 1: will compete alongside my co host, my bff, my companion
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  Speaker 1: professional sports better Simon Hunter, in an epic test of
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  Speaker 1: wagers and wits that will chew them up and spit
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  Speaker 1: them out like a tainted batch of Bazooka. Hello Simon,
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  Speaker 1: Hello chat. I'm I'm noticing a theme here. We had
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  Speaker 1: a four twenties show and then today's Earth Day. It's
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  Speaker 1: very uh, it's a hippie week for us here on
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  Speaker 1: the Action Network. Totally tubular, dude, we are rat like that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm four good Simon Today, You've got to really strong challengers.
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  Speaker 1: Our first guest is a true Hollywood insider, a top
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  Speaker 1: talent manager at Mosaic in Los Angeles and recently named
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  Speaker 1: and I say recently, like you know, within the past
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  Speaker 1: three years, one of the forty most powerful people in
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  Speaker 1: comedy by the Hollywood Reporter. Also an Oscar savant. Michael Lasker. Welcome, Michael,
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  Speaker 1: Thank you great, great to be here. Thanks that intro listen.
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  Speaker 1: I could go on longer. I feel like if anyone
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  Speaker 1: is laughed at anything on any streaming service in the
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  Speaker 1: past thirteen months, there's a very good chance you are
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  Speaker 1: involved in it, or someone you represent is involved in it.
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  Speaker 1: That's how powerful you are. More important, more importantly, you
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  Speaker 1: are something of an Oscar savant. Like if I asked
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  Speaker 1: you to name the best picture non knees from a year,
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  Speaker 1: random year, say like, could you do it? Yes, easily,
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  Speaker 1: give me the best picture nominees from pureminees. Well, one
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  Speaker 1: thing I want to be clear on because people debate
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  Speaker 1: this all the time. When you say a year as
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  Speaker 1: related to the Oscars, any true Oscar insider knows it's
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  Speaker 1: the year the movies were released, So it's released years
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  Speaker 1: that would be like Oscars technically because that's when the
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  Speaker 1: show aired. So for ninety four it's of course Pull Fiction, Shoshank, Redemption,
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  Speaker 1: Forrest Gump, Quiz Show, four Weddings in the Funeral, and
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  Speaker 1: it's a legendary year because Forrest Gump one, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: you had two other candidates you know that are like
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  Speaker 1: famous movies forever with Shaw Shank and Pull Fiction that
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  Speaker 1: some people thought should have won so a great year
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  Speaker 1: from movies. Regardless, you have proven your Hollywood insider nous
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  Speaker 1: and your total geekiness all in one very technical my pleasure,
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  Speaker 1: you are perfect for the Thunderdome. Our second guest maybe,
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  Speaker 1: And I think I've told her this outside of my
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  Speaker 1: family and sometimes including my family. My favorite person in
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  Speaker 1: the world. She commands a cabal of hard working gambling writers.
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  Speaker 1: She's the second most notable alum in the history of
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  Speaker 1: AZUSA Pacific University. Katie rich Creek, Hello, Katie, Hello, Thanks
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  Speaker 1: for having me, and I'm I'm honored to be right
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  Speaker 1: up there with Christian McCoy a on this list of
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  Speaker 1: APU alum. All right, here's how the game is played today.
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  Speaker 1: You'll all answer two kinds of questions. First, traditional trivia
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  Speaker 1: questions about sports, sports, betting, the world at large in
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  Speaker 1: this case Oscar's. Second, completely subjective and totally assinine, open
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  Speaker 1: ended questions or prompts that I alone will judge. And
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  Speaker 1: a reminder for Michael and for Katie, I'm generally rooting
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  Speaker 1: for Simon and I'm going to do my best to
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  Speaker 1: make sure that he puts himself into position to win
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  Speaker 1: um by the end of the show. To accumulate points,
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  Speaker 1: you must answer the trivia questions correctly and also convinced
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  Speaker 1: me that your responses to those open ended prompts are
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  Speaker 1: better than the responses from your opponents, because, just like
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  Speaker 1: sports betting, you can't get them all. Right, let's begin
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  Speaker 1: Part one all things Oscars Today. We'll be celebrating the
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  Speaker 1: nine presentation of the Academy Awards taking place this Sunday night.
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  Speaker 1: And while American sports books taking bets on the Oscars
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  Speaker 1: is exciting, those golden statues aren't the only Oscars worth
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  Speaker 1: talking about. To prove who the real Oscars expert is,
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  Speaker 1: I'll ask you three questions, one about the Oscars the award,
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  Speaker 1: one about sports figures named Oscar, and one about Oscars
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  Speaker 1: in pop culture. Katie, here is your Oscars Award question.
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  Speaker 1: This actor is one of the greatest film performers of
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  Speaker 1: all time. He's been nominated for a Best Actor Oscars
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  Speaker 1: six times and has one a record three times, including
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  Speaker 1: in two thousand thirteen for Lincoln. He The answer is
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  Speaker 1: not named Oscars, It's just Oscar topics. Yes, correct, So
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  Speaker 1: it's Daniel day lewis very good. Also, I was gonna
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  Speaker 1: be so embarrassed for you in front of Michael Lasker,
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  Speaker 1: who's a incredibly powerful person in Hollywood and an oscar expert.
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  Speaker 1: If on the first question, when we're touting you as
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  Speaker 1: the Oscar expert at action and having listened to your
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  Speaker 1: podcast about the oscars here you get that wrong, would
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  Speaker 1: have been sad. Here your sports oscar question. This boxer,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, nicknamed the Golden Boy, earned Olympic gold
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  Speaker 1: in ninety two, was the world's top rated pound for
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  Speaker 1: pound fighter in Oscar Dalaya. That's so easy. That's that's embarrassing, Katie.
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  Speaker 1: Here's your pop culture question. Renowned fashion designer Oscar Dala
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  Speaker 1: rent A first rose to international fame as a coturier
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  Speaker 1: for this iconic and fashionable first lady. No, it's not
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  Speaker 1: jack Kennedy. It's totally Jackie Kennedy. That seems way too old, simon.
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  Speaker 1: Director James Cameron shouted, I'm the chain the world after
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  Speaker 1: winning Best Director for this film, which tied the all
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  Speaker 1: time record with eleven total Oscar wins. Titanic. Very nice.
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  Speaker 1: Why was that first pair of boobs? I saw you
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  Speaker 1: always got something, don't you will? By the way, totally
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  Speaker 1: appropriate you would say that, and I would say, I
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  Speaker 1: saw that movie, walked out of the theater, it was
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  Speaker 1: crying hysterically, and ran into a woman I went to
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  Speaker 1: college with I hadn't seen in four years, Perfect Simon.
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  Speaker 1: Four years ago this month, Oklahoma City thunder guard Russell
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  Speaker 1: Westbrook logged his forty second triple double of the season,
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  Speaker 1: breaking the year records set by this iconic star nicknamed
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  Speaker 1: the Big Oh is it Oscar Robinson? Oscar Robertson. I
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  Speaker 1: will give it to you because he was close enough,
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  Speaker 1: and I know in your heart what you meant. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm here for you, buddy, Simon. The popular packaged meat
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  Speaker 1: brand Oscar Meyer promotes itself with a fleet of these
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  Speaker 1: iconic vehicles, first introduced in nineteen six. One summer, our
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  Speaker 1: producer Matt Mitchell drove this vehicle around the country representing
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  Speaker 1: the Oscar Meyer brand. Are you're talking about the Oscar Meyer?
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  Speaker 1: We are like hot dog car thing they drive around
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  Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell? Can I give him credit for that? Absolutely?
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  Speaker 1: And I need the proper name, Simon, the proper name
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  Speaker 1: for that car, um the Wienermobile. Yes, well done? Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god. Also one summer in the suburbs of Chicago,
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  Speaker 1: where I grew up, I ran a hot dog cart
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  Speaker 1: selling hot dogs, and it was Oscar Meyer. Chad Millman
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  Speaker 1: is proud of himself. Michael, are you ready? You've been
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  Speaker 1: very patient. This is tough. I mean, they just did
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  Speaker 1: incredible work. They did incredible work. They are both nailing,
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  Speaker 1: and it's the best Simon has ever done. I expect
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  Speaker 1: did nothing. I also, I would like to point out
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  Speaker 1: when I was a freshman at USC I was a
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  Speaker 1: seat filler at the Academy Awards, which for the seven
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  Speaker 1: movies was when Titanic One Love Titanic, Great Night, Great Oscars.
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  Speaker 1: So you were in the building, Yeah, I watched it happen.
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  Speaker 1: Whose seats did you have to fill? Who was the most?
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  Speaker 1: That's a great question. So you know, they tell you
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  Speaker 1: right as you line up outside of the auditorium and
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  Speaker 1: right as the show starts, they say, you're just gonna
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  Speaker 1: take any open seat you can find. I went about
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  Speaker 1: fourteen rows back from like the right side facing the stage,
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  Speaker 1: and I said, next to this older gentleman, and I
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  Speaker 1: realized after about five minutes it was Army archer Army
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  Speaker 1: Archerd is not alive anymore, but Army Archerd for every listening.
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  Speaker 1: Was the most famous like variety reporter for this publication
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  Speaker 1: Variety for like seventy years. So I sat with him.
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  Speaker 1: The show started, You're like forty minutes in and I
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  Speaker 1: started talking to him, and he told me that his
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  Speaker 1: wife wasn't feeling well and his wife didn't come. So
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  Speaker 1: I took him my like placard that they made you
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  Speaker 1: wear around your neck. I took it off, I put
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  Speaker 1: in my tuxied pocket, and I stayed the entire nights
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  Speaker 1: with the Army Archer for three and a half hours. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the downside of that is my buddy I went with.
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  Speaker 1: He sat in like five different seats through the night.
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  Speaker 1: He sat next to like Julie Christie and like all
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  Speaker 1: these famous actresses. But it was super fun to just
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  Speaker 1: like have a seat and be there. I was basically
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  Speaker 1: sitting behind Matt Damon's parents the whole night. So that
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  Speaker 1: is that's when Matt Damon and Ben affleck one for
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  Speaker 1: good will hunting. I feel like that is one of
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  Speaker 1: the most sought after positions as it comes around to
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  Speaker 1: Oscar Week. You were a college student, you were a
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  Speaker 1: seat filler, you were wearing a tuxedo. Yeah, did you
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  Speaker 1: rent the tuxedo or did you own it? Great question.
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  Speaker 1: In Tulsa, Oklahoma, where I am from, I worked at
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  Speaker 1: a tuxedo shop, and so I was home for spring
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  Speaker 1: break and I went to the tuxedo shop and I said, hey, um,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the Oscars in two weeks. Could
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  Speaker 1: I get a tuxedo from you guys? Then you can
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  Speaker 1: say that one of your tuxedos was worn to the
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  Speaker 1: Academy Awards. So that was the tuxedo I was wearing.
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  Speaker 1: And they're in lies the early learnings of how to
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  Speaker 1: be a manager and an agent? Uh. In nine, Michael
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  Speaker 1: Alpaccino was nominated four but did not win the Oscar
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  Speaker 1: for Best Supporting Actor for his role in Glen Garry
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  Speaker 1: Glenn Ross, What's your hired? Four? Just to help us?
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  Speaker 1: Does that seem clear to you? To help us, not
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  Speaker 1: to funk us up? But he did receive his first
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  Speaker 1: and only Oscar that same year, I mean the Best
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  Speaker 1: Actor Oscar for his role in this film. Alright, so
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  Speaker 1: the Son of a Woman. Now again technically that is
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  Speaker 1: the year of n but it's the Oscars that that
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  Speaker 1: aired in ninety three. Now, that was his eighth Oscar nomination.
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  Speaker 1: If you want me to name the other six that
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  Speaker 1: preceded Glen Gary Glen Ross, the Center of a Woman,
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  Speaker 1: I'll do it right now if I would like you
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  Speaker 1: to do it, and I will give you extra credit, okay,
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  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two, Best Supporting Actor, Godfather nineteen seventy three,
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  Speaker 1: Best Actor Serproco nineteen seventy four, or Best Actor Godfather
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  Speaker 1: to nineteen seventy five, Best Actor Dogday Afternoon. Keep in
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  Speaker 1: mind that is four straight years the guy is nominated
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  Speaker 1: for an Oscar. I mean that's pretty unprecedented. Nineteen seventy
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  Speaker 1: nine Best Actor nominee for Injustice for All, So that's five.
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  Speaker 1: The sixth nomination is nine Best Supporting Actor for Dick Tracy.
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  Speaker 1: The seventh is Glen Gary Glenn Ross, which is ninety
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  Speaker 1: two Supporting Actor. The eighth is Sent of a Woman
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  Speaker 1: Lead Actor. He wins ninety two, and then he finally
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  Speaker 1: got his ninth last year or The Irishman. So he's
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  Speaker 1: been nominated nine times now. I can't decide if you're
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  Speaker 1: super fun at parties were totally insufferable your second question
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  Speaker 1: after a network of gamblers bribed him with five thousand
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  Speaker 1: dollars Star outfielder Oscar Happy Felsh became a key figure
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  Speaker 1: in a plot to intentionally throw the World series a
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  Speaker 1: massive scandal commonly referred to by this nickname. It's the
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  Speaker 1: Black Sock right, the Black Sox Scandal? Very good? It
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  Speaker 1: was a movie movie called A Men Out made by
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  Speaker 1: John Sales. Third question, the classic preparation of veal Oscar
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  Speaker 1: is veal cutlets topped with crab meat blanche asparagus. And
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  Speaker 1: this more commonly seen on eggs Benedict oh so hollandaise sauce.
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  Speaker 1: Part one. Here is the prompt. Ready, The prompt is,
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  Speaker 1: since the dawn of the motion picture, professional athletes have
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  Speaker 1: found their way onto the silver screen. And whether you
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  Speaker 1: were moved by the seminal performance of Shaquille O'Neal in
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  Speaker 1: Kazam or were overcome by subtle technical brilliance of Dennis
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  Speaker 1: Rodman in Double Team, all American filmgoers agree we need
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  Speaker 1: more film roles for athletes. Your task is to remove
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  Speaker 1: an actor from a famous starring role, substitute in an
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  Speaker 1: athlete of your choice, selling on why your choice would
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  Speaker 1: achieve the most ridiculous results imaginable. For example, a young
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  Speaker 1: Hayley Joe Osman from the sixth sense, take him out
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  Speaker 1: and replace him with a fully grown Jerome Bettis as
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  Speaker 1: the child who sees dead people. Are you ready, Simon?
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  Speaker 1: I am so looking forward to your answer on this.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks sad. Yeah, And I also try to skew it
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  Speaker 1: towards you because I know how much you love yourself,
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  Speaker 1: So I know if I give it a little bit
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  Speaker 1: into Chad's life, he usually gives me the point. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, it felt pretty easy. The Fridge Perry,
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  Speaker 1: I would love if he was the Terminator. Just the
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  Speaker 1: thought of him on that motorcycle treated the shotgun with
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  Speaker 1: a little white kid on his back would just be
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  Speaker 1: amazing visually. So the Fridge is the Terminator to me,
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  Speaker 1: it would just be amazing. Especially for that time period.
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  Speaker 1: That just would have been an amazing combo. Here's what
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  Speaker 1: I love about what you just did. You didn't just
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  Speaker 1: take like an athlete of today and put him into
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  Speaker 1: any random movie. You matched time period with very happy,
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  Speaker 1: very smiley, wonderful athlete who would like be the perfect
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  Speaker 1: comedy antidote to what the Terminator needed in that specific era.
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  Speaker 1: Love it, Love it. What does William Refrigerator Perry think
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  Speaker 1: of the Pontiac Resian. You open the door, the light
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  Speaker 1: goes on. Michael and Katie, you guys are screwed. There's
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  Speaker 1: no way you're topping that. But Michael, you can try. Well.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I'd like to point out, ironically, maybe
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  Speaker 1: Simon knows this that in the original Terminator they wanted O. J. Simpson.
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  Speaker 1: So speaking of you know, football players before they cast Arnold, Wow,
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  Speaker 1: that I did not know. Oh yeah, oh yeah. So
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking about this last night, and by the way,
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  Speaker 1: can I say one thing? Can I just say one thing?
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  Speaker 1: He would have killed that role. Shame on you. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So I see about this last night, and I was
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  Speaker 1: trying to connect back to my youth and something connected
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  Speaker 1: maybe to my family. So okay, my pitch is Bubba Smith,
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  Speaker 1: who played High Tower in the Police Academy films, which
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  Speaker 1: probably anybody or thirty has never seen. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: he won a Super Bowl the Baltimore Colts, and he
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  Speaker 1: went to Michigan State, where my father went to college.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought it'd be funny if Bubba Smith played
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  Speaker 1: now the Snacks back to the Oscars, if he took
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  Speaker 1: over the role that Rob Williams played in Dead Poets Society,
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  Speaker 1: which he was notmated for an Oscar for nine because
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  Speaker 1: Bubba Smith like that cannot emote and only has like
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  Speaker 1: one phase of his you know, speaking, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I'm in pretty good shape, but I have to work
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  Speaker 1: hard on it every day. But remember, in order to
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  Speaker 1: get to it, you've got to go through it. And
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  Speaker 1: to see him play this incredible teacher who's inspiring all
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  Speaker 1: the kids and so forth. And by the way, I
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  Speaker 1: always loved Bubba Smith. He sadly he died um of
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  Speaker 1: like hypertension in his house like ten years ago, Police Academy.
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  Speaker 1: Those were all brilliant. Kudos for getting even closer to
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  Speaker 1: my heart. Then Simon did um and uh seeing him
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  Speaker 1: like trying to get ethan Hawk he spanned on a
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  Speaker 1: desk in Dead Poet Society would be out standing. Captain mccaptain,
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  Speaker 1: Mr Ndition, That's that's high comedy. So I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, man, he's giving you a run for his money.
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  Speaker 1: And I like he had many layers there. He he
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  Speaker 1: connected it to his family, he connected it to sort
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  Speaker 1: of what would be the complete antithesis of what that
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  Speaker 1: role required. Katie. That's a tough one, I know, but
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  Speaker 1: it seems like we might have saved the best for
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  Speaker 1: last on this one. So the bar I was using
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  Speaker 1: for this when thinking of an athlete was who are
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  Speaker 1: athletes who obviously are very athletics skilled at their game,
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  Speaker 1: but don't look like they are actually athletes? Nicola jokesch
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  Speaker 1: for example, looks like he plays basketball in foot flops.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not using him. I'm gonna use Vince will Fork
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  Speaker 1: because I think he'd be funny and pretty much any role.
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  Speaker 1: But the role I have chosen for him is as
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  Speaker 1: Ralph Maccio. We're placing Ralph Maco in the Karate Kid.
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  Speaker 1: I think that means I don't even know what to say.
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  Speaker 1: That is, I'm in the middle of Cobra Kai right now.
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  Speaker 1: All of a sudden, I started thinking about Vince Wilfork
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  Speaker 1: as like the older dad in Cobra Kai. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: Vince Wilfork getting lessons from Mr Miagi. Katie I would
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  Speaker 1: sell out best seller. That is that is really good
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  Speaker 1: coming on a strong simon, How do you feel about
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  Speaker 1: Katie's answer? Honestly, like, I like both their hitcher is
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  Speaker 1: better than mine. I would say Katie's is funnier. That's funny,
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  Speaker 1: like Vince Wilfork, Like she said, he's athletic. You can
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  Speaker 1: watch the hard knocks back in the day. He was
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  Speaker 1: kicked the field goals and cowboy boots. He is an athlete,
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  Speaker 1: So I like that. Pick a Vince Wilfork. Michael, I'm sorry, man,
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  Speaker 1: she won the round the first of all. I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was a brilliant answer. Love Kardi, kid, I have
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  Speaker 1: finished Cobra Kai and Cobra Kai is amazing. And again,
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  Speaker 1: as a kid from the eighties, what those guys Herds
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  Speaker 1: and Slashburg and Josh Hield did to that actually really brilliant.
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  Speaker 1: People talk about it in our business all the time
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  Speaker 1: of like a new unique way of reinventing something really clever.
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  Speaker 1: Katie wins that round. Nice Jack, Katie. Part two. All
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  Speaker 1: sports betters know the phrase bad beats, but fans of
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  Speaker 1: the oscars are also familiar with defeats pulled from the
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  Speaker 1: jaws of victory. But whether it's awards season or your
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  Speaker 1: favorite team's postseason, it feels like some bad beats made
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  Speaker 1: everybody mad. Let's highlight a few Katie. Golfer John Daly's
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  Speaker 1: began his golfer John Daily began his rise as the
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  Speaker 1: PGA Tours Anti Hero with his win at the Championship.
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  Speaker 1: One man not celebrating was second place finiture Bruce Litzky.
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  Speaker 1: It was the closest he'd ever get to winning a
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  Speaker 1: golf major, although he was once on the winning side
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  Speaker 1: of this by any old golf competition between Europe and
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  Speaker 1: the United States, the Ryder Cup correct wrap it around Simon.
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  Speaker 1: Many grown ups inside and outside of Hollywood were mad
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  Speaker 1: when the Academy gave eleven year old Underdog and a
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Pack Win the award for Best Supporting Actress in pac
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Win's Underdog win came over the likes of Oscar winners
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Emma Thompson and Holly Hunter, as well as this actress,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: the only Oscar nominated performer on the Netflix show Stranger Things.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: No way you're getting this. You are not even in
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: the ballpark of getting this. I should know because I
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: used to love Beetle Juice as a kid. Man, Like,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: that was one of my favorite movies. Is that one
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: on a Rider? Oh my god, you totally got it. Yeah, dude,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I used to love Beetle Juice as a kid. I know,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Like I probably shouldn't been watching that as like an
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: eight nine year old, but oh my god, I love
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: that movie. Well done, Michael. The January NFC Championship became
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: one of the most devastating upsets in NFL history. Despite
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: a fifty one record and an electric offense led by
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: All Pro quarterback Randall Cunningham, this team lost to the
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons after kicker Gary Anderson missed the field goal
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: for the first time all season. Okay, so nice see.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, you would think it's the
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Eagles because of Randall, but no, wasn't. At the Minnesota Vikings.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: They were fifteen and one that year, and Anderson hasn't
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: missed in two years. That's a pretty good man. If
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: you say, do you think Harry Anderson bank this field goal?
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: The answers from yes, nine yards away, Pa, it was
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings. Look that that's a little you know.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Well you didn't know because my father is from the
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Bronx is that we were big NFC East people, even
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: into well intul So, Oklahoma because of the Dallas Cowboys,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: who we hated. But everybody in Tulsa in that area,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: they all they all adopt the Cowboys. So we're rooting
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: for the Giants every Sunday just always hated the cowboys.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Here's my question. Your dad is from the Bronx. How
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: do you get ends up at Michigan State and then
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: goes to Tulsa the army. He was in the r OTC.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: And then he went to Korea after the Korean War,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: and then he still owed them like two years. They
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: sent him to Fort Sill, which I think is in Lawdon, Oklahoma.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: So then in the early sixties, him and his army,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: but he would go into Tulsa on the weekends to
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: like go to bars and meet girls. And you know,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: he liked Tulsa. It's a really pretty city. It's kind
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: of like Pasadena for people in California. They're listening. And
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: he stayed. He got a job, and he stayed and
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: that was it. And then he met my mother through
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: his sister at a wedding like seven years later, and
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: she moved from Boston to Tulsa, and my brother and
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I were raised there. And that's it. I've only been
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: to Oklahoma once. King Fisher, Oklahoma. Okay. Sure, I covered
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: a rodeo there. Okay, that sounds right, and it was fantastic.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I loved it. Yeah, Oklahoma, Oakland a city. I think
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: the babe a whole area where it's just Brick Road,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: where it's all bars on this one street especially, I
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: went when the thunder were good where it was like
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: you went to a Durant see Westbrook, you just walked
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: to the bars. I was like, you know what. Oklahoma,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: My one of my childhood best friends is this guy,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: David Holt, who's the mayor of Oklahoma City, and we
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: sort of have this rivalry because I'm from Tulsa, he's
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: from Oklahoma City. Oklahoma City has just been laughing Tulsa
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: for the last fifteen years. They got the thunder obviously,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: but they've also just done well you're referring to I
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: think it's called Bricktown, and they've just done all these
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: incredible projects in their city to like boost the city.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: And you know, they've built a new convention center. So
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: it's a source subject for Tulsa's um. But David is
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: doing he will listen to this at some point. He's
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: doing an incredible job. David does what is right. Uh,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: despite being the mayor in a red state. I'll leave
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: it at that. I feel like Michael is the Forrest
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Gump of this podcast. Somehow he like is connected to
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: all of these things through the course of time and history. Uh,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: and I think that's utterly arm Katie Europe. One of
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: the most bizarre out of nowhere wins in Oscar's history
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: occurred in two thousand and seventeen, when a film was
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: incorrectly announced as the winner of Best Picture on stage.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: The embarrassed presenter was Warren Batty, one of the most
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: successful figures in Holliday history and the producer, director, and
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: start of Thism based on a comic strip, which was
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: nominated for seven Oscars. Guys, you gotta give me trivia
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: for the years I was alive for Nope, that's this
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: is your punishment for being and successful. You get harder questions.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: I'd like to point out, if I've already named this
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: movie earlier, the podcast Yes You Did. Al Pacino was
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: nominated for an Oscar for his role in this movie. Oh,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: I hate it here because wonderful phone a friend moment
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: and I have completely dropped the ball by having terrible retention.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: So far, nobody's missed the questions, so you might have
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: to miss a question. I can't. I can't even give
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: any more clues. Comic strip movie. I have no idea,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: doesn't work, could mean anything? Fibre. Have you no sense
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: of pride? Here? What's it doing? No sense? No such
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: up yesterday? I'm looking for get Why do I got
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: foot soldiers first? God, that's not even in my brain.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: All right, there you go. Simon inside the Tokyo Dome
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: in a massive upset seemed to depress just about every
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: boxing fan in the world when this thirty seven one
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: underdog knocked out Mike Tyson, the undefeated, undisputed heavyweight champion
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: of the world. Who is the underdog? Oh god, I
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: should know this because of the gambling aspect, and it
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: was like one of the biggest underdogs ever in boxing.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I know it's Buster is the last named Douglas Buster
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Douglas it is. But I can't believe like that. It's
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: not so prominent in your brain. I was born in
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. But like you're you're
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: a sports fan, this is one of the most iconic
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: moments in sports history. I know it's depressing. I feel
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: you on that, But I can tell you about some
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: rapper right now and you'd be like, I know that
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: is I'm like that guy has been number one with
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: the Billboard for two years. So that's just how age works. Buddy,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: don't try to make me feel uncol don't make this
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: about me. Okay, you two old, You're just an old man. Michael.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: At the two n two nineteen Oscars, underdog Olivia Coleman
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: defeated minus four fifty betting favorite Glenn Close for Best Actress.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: It was another close but no cigar moment for Gwen,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: her seventh Oscar nomination without a win, including a Best
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Supporting Actress nomination in this baseball film. The film is
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: The Natural. Now also Glenn Close, who like you know,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: been a stage actress, nominated for three Oscars in a
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: row as she like entered movies. So it's like nine
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: two world according to garb three The Big Chill nineteen
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: eight for The Natural, and then she gets nominated again
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: in eighties seven for Fatal Attraction for Best Actress and
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: then eight eight for Dangerous Liaisons. I think Olivia Coleman
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: is amazing. She won for the favorite, the favorite, which
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, despite sharing a name with this podcast,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I didn't love might might take on that, I mean,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I adore obviously, Glenn Close is amazing Levia Coleman is amazing,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: incredible on the Crown and a lot of other stuff.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: I think the thing would happen there is that the wife.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: That movie was like being manufactured to win her an oscar.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: The movie was good, it felt a little bit like
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: a TV movie, and the favorite I think was just
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: kind of greater than the sum of its parts because
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: of all the great acting and the filmmaking. I actually
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: in the Academy in that moment it sort of felt like,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: we don't want to give it to Glen Close for this.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: We want to give it to her for something that
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: is more deserving. And you know she's gonna lose again
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: on Sunday with Hillbilly Elogie, I mean, the Grandmother and
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Minari is probably gonna win. So look, Glenn Close is
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: a legend. She seems from you know, she has got
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: a pretty public persona now on Instagram. She seems to
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: be really cool and really kind of get you know,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: the joke, and she's fine. She will get an Oscar
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: for something she'll be deserving. And Olivia Coleman also up
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: against her again, this is right, that's right. Going Close
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: also the most dominated actress to not win an acting
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: award thus far. Yeah, I think that's right. Olivia Coleman.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: I have probably watched Moura Olivia Coleman during the pandemic
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: between The Crown, The Favorite and broad Church than anything else.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: She's amazing. She's everywhere, and she's on Fleabag in the
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: second season. I mean, she's right. Credible actors. All right,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: here we go some Oscar winning for this is the prompt.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Some Oscar winning films age better than others, and some
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: just make people matter and matter. If you could go
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: back in time and hand one Oscar name and a
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: nominated film, it's rightful award. What would you choose? And why,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Michael your first? Alright? So I was when I thought
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: about this yesterday, I was going to, uh say, pull
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: fiction to win Best Picture over for Scump. And we've
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: kind of already discussed that earlier on the podcast. But
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: that you know, I was fifteen pull fiction change in
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: my life, and I Forrest Gump I thought was incredible too,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: but it always bumped me out the pull fiction loss.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna I'm gonna augment the answer and it's
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: gonna connect back something to Chad we talked about earlier,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: and I think people will be surprised by this. I'm
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: going to pitch something that actually wasn't nominated that should
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: have been nominated, and believe it or not, A Few
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Good Men, which was the movie that like really changed
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: my life that I saw five times in the movie theater. Um,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Aaron Sorkin was not nominated for the screenplay, and I
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: was always like befuddled by that, you know, I mean,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because it was his play
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: that he adapted and they thought, well, who cares, although
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: they made tons of changes to turn it from a
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: play to a movie. And I just remember thinking like,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: how could this not be nominated for screenplay? Like it
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: epitomizes screenplay. All it's is people talking. Um. That whole
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: year was like a weird coming of age year for
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: me because I was like die hard. A Few good
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Men didn't understand why I was losing No. Unforgiven, And
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: then in college at USC I wrote a paper Unforgiven,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: and I was like, Unforgiven the greatest movie ever made.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Now now I get it because I had grown up
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: a little bit. But um that I'm still giving you
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: two answers. Pull fiction should have beaten Forrest Gum and
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: a Few Good Men should have been nominated for Best
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Adapted Screenplay Night to Night two. You want answers. I
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: think I'm entitled. You want answer the truth. You can't
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: handle the truth. I like your creativity. I like your
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: You're going outside the box. I like that you're bringing
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: up Aaron Sorkin and a Few Good Men, uh, which
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: is an automatic must watch. I have a greater responsibility
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: than you can possibly fathom. You are going to be
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: hard to beat in this round, Katie. You can try,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: you know. I don't feel super confident now with that intro,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: but I'll do my best. So my personal answer to
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: this is that get Out should have be Shape of
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Water in seventeen. That's the movie I feel like people
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: that has stuck with folks for the longest. And no
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: offense to Gamel del Toro, I just didn't think Shape
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Water was the best of the year. Um. But my
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: actual answer, because I'm pandering a little bit to both
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: you and listeners, um saving private Ryan over Shakespeare and love.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I can't remember what year it was, it was like
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: ninety six, maybe listen. It's a good answer, but it's
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: a cliche. It's also very obvious. Yeah, it's a total cliche.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I can't give you credit for that, Simon. So we
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: actually already talked about this. Uh, Titanic. People love that movie,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: but do people realize that con Air came out that summer?
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: And when I think about star power and great movies,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: con Air man Nicholas Cage just using sex, I mean
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: all the actors in that. There's so many big names
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: in Conna, especially compared to Titanic. Sorry, boss, but there's
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: only two men I trust one of those main it's
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: not you, and I was shot the budget of it.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I know everyone talks about the budget of Titanic, let's
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: talk about the budget of con Air. Unbelievable. All the
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: stuff they did in that movie. So a name that
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: should have won the Oscars, it's got to be listen.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: That is a really that's a powerful answer. I do
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: love it. I feel like Conair, like in the form
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: of air driven disaster movies, can't hold a candle to Armageddon,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: which probably also deserved an Oscar. And so I'm gonna
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: have to give you no credit for that. And I'm
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: giving Michael the win because he pandered significantly better than
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: either of you. By the way for the Thank you
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: for the record, Katie. I did think about say in
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Private Ryan, it's night. But I did think about that
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: last night because I do think, especially in the Harvey
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Weinstein you Know Me Too era, like a lot of
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: people already felt like Private Ryan should have won. And
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: then because the interging thing, Chad if I might um
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: about the Oscars and there was there was an article
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: about this recently. Somebody's tell me about that is the
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: year they look back in history as that is when
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: like hardcore campaigning started, and it was started at Harvey
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Weinstein where they were like not just getting people to
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: see their movie, they were poisoning the well about other movies.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: I think Chase Turned Love is a brilliant film and
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: it won a lot of Oscars that night, so it
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: wasn't necessary undeserving. But I've watched them both since, and
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: same type of Ryan I think is a better film. Simon.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. I thought you were
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: gonna say l a Confidential because that lost the Titanic.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: But coon Air is a masterpiece, so good on you.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: That was a joke. I'm glad you told me. Now
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I got to get back to the plane I would
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: love to get your take, Michael on Nick Cage, because
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I have a friend who is presently watching every single
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Nicolas Cage movie ever released, which is a surprisingly long list,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: and now has the hottest take that Nicolas Cage is
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: the most underrated actor in history. So he's an incredible actor.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: The weird thing about Nicolas Cage I gotta go on
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: YouTube and find this. He he wins the Oscar leaving
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Las Vegas. He's like on a red carpet somewhere, it
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: might have been at the Oscars, and they're literally like,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: what do you want to do next? And he says,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: with the straightest deface, is I want to be an
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: action star. And then he goes to the gym, he
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: gets ripped, and then he does the rock um next,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: which is a masterpiece. I mean one of I saw
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: the movie four times that week he came out. I mean,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: it's incredible. It's the only movie to ever pull off
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: the die Hard formula. That and Speed are the only
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: two movies that kind of I think evoked die Hard
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: in the right way. But no, Nichols Cage is a genius.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: He's I mean, you know, he's got his own issues
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: which have been heavily documented. But he's a great, great actor. Also,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: he won an Oscar. You can't be underrated if you
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: win an Oscar. Yeah, that's right. He made a different
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: path for himself. Alright, Part three, Here we go. Good
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: sports pass. Sports movies are great. Sports are great. Unfortunately,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: sports movies are not always great. I will ask each
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: of you two questions about a sports movie. One good,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: one bad. Speed round here Simon. Remember The Titans is
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: a good sports movie. But in the film, Player Alan
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Bossley is not good. Despite earning Player of the Week
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: five times, he gives up two catches on the first
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: drive of the season and get benched. For a guy
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: who's never practiced playing cornerback. The role of Bosley was
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: a big Hollywood break for this young heart throb, a
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: two time Oscar nominee and star of the movie The Notebook.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: This is why I hate the thunder Dome is I
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: could I've seen this name a million times now I
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: can't remember it is Ryan Goslin. Beautiful. Thank God, I
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: fucking love you for knowing that Michael as an Oscar's
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: expert will make this one harder for you. The Champ
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: was nominated for Best Picture in the nineteen thirties. The
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Quiet Man, a movie about a retired boxer, was nominated
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: in the fifties. Okay, Since then, the Academy has nominated
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: four boxing movies for Best Picture for one point, name
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: the two that one best picture for two points? Name
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: all four movies nominated? Okay, the two. The one best
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: picture was Rocky in nineteen seventy six, Million Dollar Baby
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: in two thousand and four. The third one is Raging,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: which was nominated, and then the fourth boxing film. You
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: just have to think for a second. You want to hint, Sure,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: I'll take it ahead. The win, the winner, the Best
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Supporting Actor came from this movie in the last fifteen years. Oh,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, of course The Fighter Christian Bale for The Fighter. Yeah,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: how about me knowing that clue without even getting anything
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: in the script from Matt Mitchell. Great question, because I
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: don't even know. I'm not knocking the question. I don't
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: even know if you think of The Fighter as a
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: boxing movie per se, because you think of the family,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, You think of the sisters,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: and you think of the drug addiction. But it is
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: a boxing movie. You're right, It's a really good boxing movie.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: It's a great boxing movie. Katie. Airbud film about about
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: golden retriever who plays basketball. It's spurred four sequels, each
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: one more embarrassing than the last. I will now list
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: the whole franchise for fun air Bud, air Bud to
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Golden Receiver, Airbud World, Pup Airbud, Seventh Inning, Fetch, Airbud
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Spikes back the original film. Buddy a dog would be
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: game famous in real life, but appearing on this famous
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Hosts Network TV show, which occasionally featured pets performing inane tricks.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: But we'll find anything in there. If there's a dog
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: can't play, no roles for the dog can't playing basketball.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: First of all, Airbud is right in my wheelhouse. I
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: was born in ninety four, so the Airbud franchise carried
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: me through childhood. Second, I have never really watched network
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: talk shows, so I have zero glue. Who has a dog.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: I know it can't be Fallon. I know it can't
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: be Kimmel. I have to guess it's either j Letto
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: or um, Oh my god, Letterman? Is it Letterman? I'm
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: gonna go with Letterman. Oh my, I don't want to
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: give it to you because like Letterman is so anathema
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: to your ability to think about like late night TV shows.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: But yes, it's a Letterman. Hey. His Netflix series was great.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Enjoyed that quite a bit crap. It was crap, It
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: was self indulgent. He wasn't the same Letterman. It was terrible.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Simon the two thousand one film Summer Catches a very
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: bad sports movie. This summary is quote a rich girl
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: summering and cape cud as a romance with a local
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: poor boy who hopes to become a major league ball player.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: It starts Freddie Prinn's Jr. And this actress Esquire Magazine's
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Sexiest Woman Alive in two thousand five and the wife
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: of Justin Timberlake. That's a horrible review. That's a great movie,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: especially when you're in love and it's Jessica Bill. I
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: feel like that was her big sexual breakaway from Seventh Heaven,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: so I definitely remember the shift of me watching her
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: on daytime TV to her making out the Freddie Prince Jr.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, this is aggressive. We are learning
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: so much about Simon's history with the ladies through his
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: movies with Titanic and now Jessco Bill and seventh Heaven,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Michael should be right up your alley. The trade magazine Variety,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: where Army Archard worked for many, many years, called the
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy film Here Comes the Tigers, a direct rip
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: off of the Bad News Bears with dull directing and
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: awful acting. This g rated pile of crap was directed
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: by Sean Cunningham, better known for co creating directing this
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: famous horror film about an abandoned summer camp. Um, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that has to be Friday. It is Friday thirteenth.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: That was a good question. That that was twisty. It
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: was the Yeah, Matt Mitchell's He's got a gift for
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: this Katie film. A League of Their Own is a
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: great sports movie and its poster features three of the
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: film stars. One is an Oscar winning actress. Oh my god,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: this is great. One is a two time Oscar winning actor.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: The other was an international superstar who performed the Oscar
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: winning song Sooner or Later from the movie Dick Tracy
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: that same year. Name all three stars. This is really embarrassing, actually,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: because I did an oral history for A League of
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Their Own at ESPN where we interviewed like the screenwriters
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  Speaker 1: and a bunch of other folks, and I just you know, Okay,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: it's Jeanne Davis. I know it's Madonna. And then who's
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: the third You're missing? Don't the third Tom Hanks? I
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: don't know the third. That's embarrassing. Yeah, that's probably the
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: easiest for anyone else. Now, I mean Tom Hanks might
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: have might have will be Orson Welles for you. But
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: you know, if it were Chet Hanks, I would have
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: got it immediately. That's true, exactly. So al right, here's
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: the prompt for the part three. Some of the worst
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: movies of all time have been based on a true story.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Give me your pitch for the worst sports movie imaginable
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: based on a true story from the last five years, Katie,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: your first. The opening series between the Rockies and Dodgers
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: this season, there was a feral cat that ran onto
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: the field. There are tons of feral cats at Corus Field,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: which I live like blocks from. So my idea is
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: to have a movie about the journey of the serial cat.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: After it was collected by the security guards, apparently it
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: escaped from them. Where did it go next? Did it
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: hop on a train at Union Station right up to
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: the Rockies. I don't know. I'd like to find out, though,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I got a title for you. What is it? How
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: about the movie nobody's ever gonna want to see? No,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: I saw it all over your face. It was not
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: it was not landing at all. Uh, signon, save us
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: from Katie's like horrible idea. This would this would get
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: her kicked out of a pitch meeting in two seconds.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: That's the whole point. Though supposed to be the worst
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: sports movie, so I think she she knailed it. That
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: I was pretty it would be super boring. But also
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: everyone would take their children to see it, um so
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: for mine. I obviously I wanted to say with a
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: pandemic to like, that's too easy. So I would love
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: if they did a movie like a like a sad
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: story about feeling bad for the Huston Astros for cheating,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: because remember Houston, like they wanted people to feel bad
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: for them. They're like, people are being so mean to us.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: People are bowing us at these away games, calling us
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: cheaters scum bags. We all hate them. I would love
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: if they did a movie a like feeling Bad for
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: the Houston Astros because people would just absolutely hate that movie.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: It's not bad. That is a terrible idea. But now
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: that I think about it, is it worse than a
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: movie about Ferrell cats at at the Rockies home stadium.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Michael, I feel like this could be
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: right up your alley. You've probably heard so many bad ideas, Simon,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: You're gonna love this. So I was. I was going
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: through the internet last night and thinking about what are
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: some weird stories and what I decided cannot make this up.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: I have a very good friend named Todd Waldman who's
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: from Houston and is the biggest Rockets fan of all time.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: But my pitch was to do like almost a Robert
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Altman style, you know, like thirty character, you know, five
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: year story spanning of all the woes of Houston sports
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: of the last five years. So you have three storylines.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: You have the Astros getting found out for cheating, you
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: have James Harden being unbelievable but never getting over the hump,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: and you have j. J. Watt being unbelievable but being
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: on basically a bad team. So my pitch was sort
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: of just like doing almost like a drama about like
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: the state of Houston fandom. Because of my friend Todd,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: So It's so funny that Simon brought up Houston, because
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: I was just trying to think of, like, well, what
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: are the sad moments sadly of sports the last couple
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: of years, and the Astros, I mean, that to me
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: was a big deal because they were like, remember when,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: like they were on the cover of s I and
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: they were like, you know, they're gonna be the best
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: for the next three years because they're scouting and blah
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: blah blah, and it was kind of all a lot.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I kind of love that answer because I know a
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: lot of folks from Houston too, and I can't tell
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: you how many times I've sat in a bar with
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: friends from Houston who, before the Astros won the World Series,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: would talk to me about how I'm from Chicago, what
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: talk to me about? How anything they're going through is
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Houston sports fans is worse than anything we ever went
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: through as Cubs fans. And it is unbelievably boring to
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: listen to uninteresting because Houston is not one of those
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: towns anybody cares about. So I feel like this is
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: terrible and nobody would want to see this movie, even
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: like people from Houston might not want to see this movie.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: It would make Michael, I'm giving it to you. Thank you.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: All right, we head into the final round. Katie, I'm
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: surprised that you're in last place with six points. I
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: can't quite believe you still have not taken into account
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: the human factor. You're this definitely like the smartest of
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: everyone on this this show, So this is weird to me. Simon,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: you're normally in front. As we get into the final round,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: you're only at seven. Michael, you're blowing the field away
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: with eleven, so I'm excited for you. This is the
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: last round. You guys each have to tell us how
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: much you would like to risk. So close your eyes,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: very high tech, close your eyes, hold up your fingers
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: with your wager amount. Here we go. At the Academy Award,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: the song Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now was nominated for
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Best Original Song. It did inspire a number of sports
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: franchises on their paths to glory. One of those teams
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: was the Portland's Trail Playzers, who played it during home
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: playoff games on their way to the NBA Finals. Unfortunately,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: something did stop them the Bad Boy Pistons, but the
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: song's biggest champions are the Montreal Canadians, who's coach heard
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: it on the radio during a losing streak and distributed
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: cassette tapes to every player. Just as the song promised,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: nothing stopped the Canadians on their way to Stanley Cup
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: victory over this team, who were led by a player
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: known as the Great One. Please submit your answers while
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: we listen to the song. Our answers are in Michael,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: your first, Your your first first. The Great One is
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Wayne Gretzky, married to Janet Jones, who was in Police
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Academy five when they go to Miami. I know you
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: know that yet better known for her role in what
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: other sports themed movie? Well it's is it? Vision Quest? No?
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Maybe not Vision Quest? Janet Jones started an American anthem
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: co starring Mitch gay Lord and that was in nine.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: That's right. Oh yeah, okay, mont Martreal Canadians beat So Gretzky. Um,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: well at that time, I'm just gonna take yes here.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: I mean he he played for the Kings, I thought,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: so I'm gonna say the l A the Kings. You
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: are correct, the l A Kings. How much did you
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: wager five? So you are now at sixteen? Oh? I
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: also had l A Kings, but I put all of
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: it in. I think I only had seven points on
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: at fourteen. Uh, so you're at fourteen. Well, you always
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: go all in, so that's pretty good for you. Yeah. Finally,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: this is the only one I've gotten right in six
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: weeks and I lost. It's totally true. By the way,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: it is the first one you've gotten right, Katie, I
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: played scared. I only wagered five points. My answer is
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: also the Kings, which I only know. I'm not a
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: hockey man because I spent time working at l A
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: news stations and was forced to learn about the Kings
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: and the docks. Well. Listen, as any good Susan Pacific
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: grad should know, you do your time at l A
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: news stations and you get to know all about hockey
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: all around Southern California. Super popular, everyone loves it. Michael,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: you are the winner, amazing highlight of my life. Thank you. Listen,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: this has been an endurance test and we appreciate you
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: taking the time. Uh, and we appreciate you lay along
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: You Michael Ascar are the winner of the Thursday Thunderdome
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Oscar's edition. Solomon and Katie put your ship in the box.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: You're fired. Listen before we sign off, here is a
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: word from our fearless leader, Action Network CEO, Patrick Keene.
• 47:18
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• 47:23
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• 47:26
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• 47:30
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