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Best of Chuck & Buck 6-2 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Good morning anybody out there.
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  Speaker 2: Oh good, the water's cooled again. Hey, good morning, and
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  Speaker 2: welcome in the radio show. It is Chuck Powell and
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  Speaker 2: Ashley Ryan with you here on this Tuesday morning. Great
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  Speaker 2: to have you with us. We've got you for the
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  Speaker 2: next four hours as we will take you to ten
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  Speaker 2: o'clock today talking about all sorts of things in the
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  Speaker 2: world of sports, including a red hot baseball team that
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  Speaker 2: has now won seven consecutive games. We'll get to that
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  Speaker 2: in a moment, but of course we'll also be talking
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  Speaker 2: about and with a lot of our experts, the blockbuster
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  Speaker 2: trade yesterday in the National Football League. Of course, so
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  Speaker 2: we are wondering which billionaire is just gonna float his
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  Speaker 2: yacht up to the station today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, do we have any yachts out there?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so, sir, I haven't seen anything just yet. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, we had one yesterday. I guess some time.
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  Speaker 2: I guess Facebook boy rolled by here yesterday. A lot
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  Speaker 2: of different theories as to why he might have done that.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently meta payswell.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, if you're Mark Zuckerberg, Yeah, if you are
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  Speaker 6: one of the employees thousands of employees that got laid off, I.
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  Speaker 2: Wonder with Zuckerberg, if you know you got that much money,
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  Speaker 2: which basically you stole, and if you do just basically
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  Speaker 2: wear hoodies all the time that's pretty much all you wear,
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  Speaker 2: I would think that's a great opportunity to like save
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  Speaker 2: a lot of money.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because your wardrobe is all hoodies and you're not
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  Speaker 2: wearing like suits and stuff like that. You're not barely
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  Speaker 2: a fashionista, right, And yet something tells me that he's
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  Speaker 2: got to feel like he's wearing something expensive. So my
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  Speaker 2: guess is that he has like million dollar hoodies just
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  Speaker 2: to feel like he's fancy.
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  Speaker 6: I think that's all billion millionaires or billionaires that wear
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  Speaker 6: like T shirts all the time. The sweatshirts are it's
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  Speaker 6: not like they went to the gap, right.
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  Speaker 2: No, But I mean, what's the highest you would spend
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  Speaker 2: on a T shirt.
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  Speaker 1: That I would spend on a T shirt? Twenty dollars?
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  Speaker 6: Twenty dollars Okay, So it's like, if it's like a
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  Speaker 6: you know, like a Maritor T shirt, you're gonna spend
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  Speaker 6: probably like forty dollars.
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  Speaker 2: But put yourself in the shoes of anybody. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: what is the highest Like if money was no object,
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  Speaker 2: what I mean, what is an expensive T shirt?
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  Speaker 6: I can I imagine there's like T shirts that are
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  Speaker 6: like three hundred dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Three hundred dollars. Still, that's not even making a dent. No,
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  Speaker 2: the fortunes of a person like this, they'd feel.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty gross to spend three hundred dollars on us.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know they probably waste a lot more
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  Speaker 2: money in a lot of other areas. So I would
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  Speaker 2: think three hundred. But if you're sitting there like, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: I've got to have this fabric that was made, you know,
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  Speaker 2: by the hands of babies in Malaysia, and it costs
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  Speaker 2: three million dollars to get that kind of baby quality.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if you're just like I will spend whatever
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  Speaker 2: it takes. I still want to wear a hoodie, but
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  Speaker 2: I also have to wear really expensive stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Got to be really soft, really soft?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, are we growing?
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  Speaker 5: You know?
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  Speaker 2: I grew my own alpaca arm in Mongolia. He might
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  Speaker 2: have done that in order to have the softest thread
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  Speaker 2: hair hair thread possible for this sweatshirt. It costs four
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  Speaker 2: and a half million dollars and I've got fifty of them.
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  Speaker 6: I'd be like, sir, if you could just give that
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  Speaker 6: to us or the Facebook employees.
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  Speaker 2: I do want to know that he didn't skimp on
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  Speaker 2: the boat. I'll tell you that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Did he take the boat up here to lay off
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  Speaker 6: all the people?
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  Speaker 1: Last week?
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  Speaker 6: I have no one and just hung out for the
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  Speaker 6: weekend and was like, you know what, Seattle's really nice.
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  Speaker 2: It's really rubbing it in people's faces. It really are as.
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  Speaker 6: We're just sitting there at work yesterday looking out like
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  Speaker 6: that's a nice yacht?
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  Speaker 2: Is that? Yeah? Yeah, you came in to fire everyone.
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  Speaker 2: You're just like, you know what, while we're here firing everyone,
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  Speaker 2: why don't we enjoy my wealth? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Why don't you guys? Come sit on my yacht.
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  Speaker 2: No, not you guys.
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  Speaker 1: You guys that I fired. I don't think about like
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  Speaker 1: the other people that are up here with me.
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  Speaker 2: No, the one other person that I brought. Let's really
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  Speaker 2: flaunt this. And by the way, go get my l
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  Speaker 2: pack of sweatshirts out of the car.
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  Speaker 1: The car.
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  Speaker 2: All right, well, good morning to you. Welcome into the
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  Speaker 2: race show. It is Ashley Ryan, it is Chuck Powell,
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  Speaker 2: and we have a lot of things to discuss today.
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  Speaker 2: What's on tap coming up in a moment, I'll tell
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  Speaker 2: you who's going to join us to discuss these things
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  Speaker 2: on the program because it should be rather riveting, I
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  Speaker 2: would think before it all comes to a close. But
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  Speaker 2: let's start with the National Football League. My goodness, it
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  Speaker 2: was one of those am I seeing this the right
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  Speaker 2: way kind of moments as a sports fan, especially the
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  Speaker 2: modern day sports fan, and that is the sports fan
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  Speaker 2: that has a phone with them at all times and
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  Speaker 2: is constantly harassed by Adam Schefter. Doesn't matter what time
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  Speaker 2: of day or night I get text from Adam Schefter.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that means he really likes you.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, I'm just on the group thing that he does.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know I didn't even sign up for it,
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  Speaker 2: but apparently I get Adam Schefter tweets and they will
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  Speaker 2: come constantly, but not many like this as we found
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  Speaker 2: out yesterday, and a blockbuster headline that the Los Angeles Ran,
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  Speaker 2: our chief rival in the division, our chief rival for
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  Speaker 2: winning the Super Bowl, trying to go back to back,
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  Speaker 2: have added the best defensive player in the world, Miles Garrett.
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  Speaker 2: What a trade yesterday. You don't see many this big
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  Speaker 2: Garrett going to the Rams in exchange for young pass
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  Speaker 2: rushing star Jared Verse. Also a first round draft pick
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  Speaker 2: this year, a second round draft pick next year, and
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  Speaker 2: then a third round draft pick in the year twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty nine, all part of the package to land Miles
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  Speaker 2: Garrett in Los Angeles. And so now suddenly the team
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  Speaker 2: that was supposed to be the team that was the
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  Speaker 2: biggest threat to the Seahawks trying to repeat the Super
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  Speaker 2: Bowl has the reigning MVP on their roster back and signed,
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  Speaker 2: and the reigning defensive player of the Year on their
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  Speaker 2: roster coming off a record breaking season. There's really no
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  Speaker 2: way to chop this up, slice it up, and come
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  Speaker 2: away feeling better about your chances than you did twenty
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  Speaker 2: four hours ago when we started this show. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you can try. You can dip into your you can
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  Speaker 2: jump into your seahawk pool and wrap yourself and your
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  Speaker 2: you know, pour some seahawk bubbles and wrap yourself in
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  Speaker 2: a seahawk blanket if you'd like, and try to convince
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  Speaker 2: yourself that, no, we're better off today than what we
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  Speaker 2: were twenty four hours ago. But the truth of the
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  Speaker 2: matter is they just sign one of the greatest pass
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  Speaker 2: rushers in the history of the NFL. It happens to
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  Speaker 2: be a very valuable position. And even though Jared Verse
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  Speaker 2: was good, very good, this guy is undeniably great. And
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  Speaker 2: so the Rams have gotten better since last you and
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  Speaker 2: I stared at each other through this glass window of ours.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they absolutely have.
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  Speaker 6: And I am wondering if the Seahawks are going to
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  Speaker 6: do anything or if they're confident in where they are.
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  Speaker 6: And part of me thought, yesterday, well, you know what, Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: the Rams are better, but it's just gonna feel that
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  Speaker 6: much better that are when we kick their butts at
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  Speaker 6: the end of the year.
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  Speaker 1: And then I thought, God, I hope we can kick
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  Speaker 1: their butts at the end of the year.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, sure that can still happen. I think
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  Speaker 2: that the Seahawks are still on a trajectory of getting better.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like there's any kind of complacency over there.
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  Speaker 2: As Devin Witherspoon, who's potentially looking for a new deal
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  Speaker 2: himself this offseason, is the first guy reporting to everything
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  Speaker 2: that looks like a practice. It feels like they're as
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  Speaker 2: hungry as ever. Mike McDonald's track records suggests that his
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  Speaker 2: defenses just keep getting better on his watch, which they
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  Speaker 2: did from year number one to year number two, and
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  Speaker 2: I suspect it's going to get even better in year
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  Speaker 2: number three. Absolutely, we have a burgeoning superstar potentially in
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  Speaker 2: Byron Murphy, who we just talked about yesterday for twenty
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  Speaker 2: minutes with Corbyn Smith. So that's probably going to get better.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there is an element of respect being shown
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  Speaker 2: here by the Los Angeles rams as to the beast
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  Speaker 2: that there are against. I will give the Kaam's credit
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  Speaker 2: for this. Sean McVeigh doesn't seem to have the Mike
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  Speaker 2: McDonald's struggles that Kyle shanahan does. McDonald is way up
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  Speaker 2: in that ferret headed face of Kyle Shanahan. He's he
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  Speaker 2: knows everything he's gonna do before he ever does it.
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  Speaker 2: McVeigh struggled the first time in three meetings last year,
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  Speaker 2: and then the second two times it was McDonald, Chas
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  Speaker 2: and McVay, and it's in the other two matchups, and
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  Speaker 2: oddly enough, we won.
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  Speaker 1: The first, yes, lost the first and one and then one.
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  Speaker 2: The other two. And nonetheless, Sean McVay didn't seem to
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  Speaker 2: have Mike McDonald issues when it came to putting points
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  Speaker 2: on the board like Kyle Shanahan did. And yet still
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  Speaker 2: there's no way sitting on that momentum, if you will,
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  Speaker 2: even though they're on a two game losing streak and
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  Speaker 2: they did not win the Super Bowl, I think there
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  Speaker 2: was a absolute hip of the cap of that team's
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  Speaker 2: gonna keep getting better defensively, they're gonna keep being difficult.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how good they're going to get on
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  Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball. I don't know how
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  Speaker 2: many points we're gonna be able to put up on
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  Speaker 2: the board against that dude and the athletes that he's assembling,
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  Speaker 2: and the way everybody's buying into that program over there.
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  Speaker 2: We've got to have a better defense. And even though
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  Speaker 2: we were good with Jared Verse, and we were one
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  Speaker 2: of the best teams in the NFL and if not
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  Speaker 2: our two part convergent, we would have won it all.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing that screwed him up, right right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's that's it. It really comes down to that. That's
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  Speaker 2: what it was. Clearly why you didn't win the Super Bowl, idiots.
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  Speaker 2: And so this is them saying, we're all in on this.
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  Speaker 2: We gave up a really nice package for this player.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people and I think maybe even myself
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  Speaker 2: might weigh that trade as a Cleveland Browns win yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: And yet this is an organization and I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe Sean McVay constantly thinks he's only gonna coach for
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  Speaker 2: one more year. I don't know. But this is an
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  Speaker 2: organization more so than any other in the National Football League,
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  Speaker 2: that is in the moment, even more so than San Francisco,
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  Speaker 2: even more so than Philadelphia. The Los Angeles Rams are
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  Speaker 2: in the moment. What's it gonna take to win the
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl? Right now? I prefer to be on a
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks quest, on a Seahawks timeline like they're on right now,
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  Speaker 2: where we're still the team to beat. I don't care
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  Speaker 2: what you add, we're the defending champs and we're set
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  Speaker 2: up beautifully for the next ten years to just keep
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  Speaker 2: this thing going. Who knows how many we can rack up.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see. I'd rather be on that trajectory. But I
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  Speaker 2: do have to acknowledge, man, they when they go all in,
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  Speaker 2: they go all in, and they've gone all in on this,
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  Speaker 2: and I think it's it's around the datement of man.
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  Speaker 2: We have to give up fewer points, period. And even
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  Speaker 2: though we have a very good player at edge, the
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  Speaker 2: opportunity to get a great player, a transcendent player, maybe
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  Speaker 2: the best player defensively in the world right now, and
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  Speaker 2: we're going to go for that, and we're going to
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  Speaker 2: become that much better of a team. And I don't
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  Speaker 2: think there's any way that we can convince ourselves here
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  Speaker 2: in Seattle that our chief competitor for the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 2: Crown just got better yesterday.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you can't ignore it, and you can't pretend that
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  Speaker 6: it's not something that's going to be. You know, an
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  Speaker 6: extra thought for Mike McDonald as he plans to play
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  Speaker 6: the Rams twice a very pivotal time of the year.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, we are first game against the Rams is
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  Speaker 6: on Christmas Christmas Day, so two games at the end
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  Speaker 6: of the year that we're going to be playing this team.
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  Speaker 6: And I understand why the Rams are all in too.
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  Speaker 6: I mean with Stafford aging and the fact that you
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  Speaker 6: had you know, they didn't know if if he was
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  Speaker 6: even going to be able to play all of last
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  Speaker 6: season because at the beginning of the season he had
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  Speaker 6: back problems. And so if you're dealing with that and
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  Speaker 6: you don't know how fragile he may or may not be.
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  Speaker 6: Obviously proved to be not as fragile and win the
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  Speaker 6: MVP Award, but you just don't know, and they don't
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  Speaker 6: know what kind of timeline he's really realistically on.
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  Speaker 1: So I get it. Yeah, go be the best you
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  Speaker 1: can be right now and see what happens.
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  Speaker 2: Well, even if there's not an injury his time, I
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  Speaker 2: mean's thirty eight years old, right, that timeline is probably
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  Speaker 2: two years. They just drafted a quarterback with the first
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  Speaker 2: round selection. So they're trying to win the next two
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowls with Stafford and Nakua and Garrett as their foundation.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and they improve their secondary well, yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And they've added mcduffee this offseason as well, and those
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  Speaker 2: are that's a hell of a foundation to work off
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  Speaker 2: of it, and certainly it feels like they've gotten better.
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  Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, your rumors about Aaron
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  Speaker 2: Donald maybe he wants to come back now, and now
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  Speaker 2: it gets even more terrifying for the Seattle Seahawks. But
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  Speaker 2: there's no question that they got better yesterday. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sitting here and I'm like, Okay, maybe the Cleveland
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  Speaker 2: Browns did win this trade. I think that there's an
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  Speaker 2: argument to be made for that they're not ready to
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  Speaker 2: win right now. They don't have their Matt Stafford in place,
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  Speaker 2: nothing anywhere close to Matt Stafford in place. They're not
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  Speaker 2: going to win this season. They know they're not going
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  Speaker 2: to win this season. And Miles Garrett, even though he's
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  Speaker 2: not old, is thirty years old. By the time they're
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  Speaker 2: ready to win, he's thirty two. That is probably going
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  Speaker 2: to be a declined player by the time they are
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  Speaker 2: ready quarterback wise to have a shot at this thing.
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  Speaker 2: So while they're trying to fix their roster and make
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  Speaker 2: it like the Seahawks championship caliber, they move Garrett now
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  Speaker 2: for a twenty five year old edge rusher who's much
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  Speaker 2: more affordable at this stage that by the time that
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  Speaker 2: their quarterback theoretically is ready to go, whoever that might
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  Speaker 2: be in twenty twenty eight, you've got a twenty seven
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  Speaker 2: year old edg rusher who's should be in the prime
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  Speaker 2: of his career. Plus they just got a first round
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  Speaker 2: draft pick as well, so they can tack that onto
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  Speaker 2: what they already have and in a quarterback draft might
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  Speaker 2: be able to move up into the top spot even
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  Speaker 2: if they don't have the worst record in the National
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  Speaker 2: Football League. Plus you got a second rounder and a
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  Speaker 2: third rounder over the course of the next couple of years.
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  Speaker 2: There are a lot of people, a lot of smart
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  Speaker 2: people that are saying the Cleveland Browns won the trade overall,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll hear that argument, But right now, what makes
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  Speaker 2: us better? Jared Verse has twelve sacks in his NFL
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  Speaker 2: career over two seasons. Miles Garrett had twenty three last year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so Miles Garrett has had twice the number of sacks
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  Speaker 2: than Jared Verse in half the amount of time. That's
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  Speaker 2: how good he is, that's how what a difference maker
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  Speaker 2: that he is. It's got thirty seven over the last
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  Speaker 2: two years, so three times the sacks. Now Jared Versus young,
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  Speaker 2: probably getting better, probably was going to have a bigger
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  Speaker 2: sack number this year year. He's third I think in
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  Speaker 2: the National Football Tame and pressure, So he wasn't getting
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  Speaker 2: to the quarterback, but he was harassing the quarterback, and
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people will tell you that's the more
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  Speaker 2: important statistic because you were affecting more passes, more plays
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  Speaker 2: by getting that many pressures on them, and sometimes you
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  Speaker 2: just don't always get to the quarterback and bring him down.
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  Speaker 2: So Jared Versus certainly on a path to become a
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  Speaker 2: great defensive end, but they know that Miles Garrett already
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  Speaker 2: is that. So it's a it's a bit of a
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  Speaker 2: certainly an eye opener. My goodness, did that come as
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  Speaker 2: a shock coming over the wire yesterday. And sounds like
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  Speaker 2: the Rams have been working on bringing him in for
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  Speaker 2: the last four years. That's the report as now. NFL
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  Speaker 2: insiders everywhere wants you to believe I had this story four.
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  Speaker 6: Years ago, right of course, but when you said it,
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  Speaker 6: I thought it was a joke. I was like, there's
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  Speaker 6: got to be some parody account that's putting this out there,
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  Speaker 6: like it didn't seem real.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, And it's fine. I don't your parody accounts.
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  Speaker 2: Text to me just Adam, just Adam Schefter sometimes at
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  Speaker 2: three in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's nice of him. He just wants to make
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  Speaker 1: sure you know he's there.
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  Speaker 6: I will say I could I see for sure that
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  Speaker 6: both of them won because both of them got what
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: they needed right now. I mean, Cleveland got what they
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: need to start building their team of the future and
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: the Rams got what they need to try and win
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: a Super Bowl this year. So I'd say it's a
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: win win for both teams and they should both be
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: thrilled with it.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: I agree, But it is a loss for the Seahawks. Yes, yeah,
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: so I agree with you. I think Cleveland got what
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: they needed out of it. They have to project two
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: years from now because they don't have a quarterback.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Right and then you use those two draft picks, and yeah,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: go get them.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: And I think the Rams went from having a very
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: good on his way to being great defensive end and
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: they traded him for the best defensive player in the world.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: So I think they both won for what they were
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: going after and where their timelines currently sit. But from
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: whoever lost in the trade Seahawks forty nine ers and.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Cardinals well, the Cardinals have lost a lot.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you see, you're right. Maybe we don't even put
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: the Cardinals in there, because I mean thinking about the
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: big picture just yet. But Seahawks, certainly we lost yesterday
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: because the Rams got better that much better since last
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: week spoke. So we'll talk about it. How much better.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not worried about it. I'm ready to
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: go to war with them.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: I'm ready. But it does worry me a little bit,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: I'm fine, I think, yeah, I think he got better.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: But man, a football season, that's a hell of a thing.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: A football season.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Yep, you never know what's going to happen.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: We don't even meet you till the last two to
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: three games of the year, and who knows. Maybe Miles
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Garret's not even healthy by then, maybe Matt Stafford's not
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: maybe both are not even healthy. Who knows. During the
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: course of a season, you don't need to knock on
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: wood I'm talking about there.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: Oh I know.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: But then I was thinking, if you're talking about that,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: what about our guys?
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: So then I started to knock on because I just
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: can't not so so.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, who knows what can happen during the
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: course of the season. But on paper, certainly the Rams
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: are a better football team. All right, let's find out
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: what's on tap for the rest of the show coming on, Chuck,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: and what's until what's untel? All right, here's what we
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: got coming up. Hugh Millan's going to be joining us
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: today at seven five. So yes, of course, a trade
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: of this significance we got to bring in our QB
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: one today. So we'll chat with Hugh today about the move.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: We'll also ask him if the Hawks need to counter
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: this Miles Garrett move, we'll talk about it ourselves. Coming
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: up at six forty five, there was another big trade.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: This was the trade that was supposed to go down.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: It was supposed to be just AJ Brown day, and
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: the Rams screwed that up.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, they stole all of the thunder.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: AJ Brown goes to New England. That was the worst
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: kept secret in the National Football League. I mean, Diana
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Russini's known it for years. Yeah, he's known it for years.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: But she's really good of what she does.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Yep, she gets it all above board, right.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: So it was a first round pick in twenty twenty
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: eight that the Eagles get in return. They also get
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: a fifth round pick in the upcoming draft as well.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: One series will continue today. And if you're like, what
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: do you mean continue, well, maybe you didn't join us
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: yesterday because we started our one series. We do it
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: every June. It's one Seahawks analyst slash insider breaking down
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: one key Seahawk player for one entire interview. We've never
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: had this guy. I don't know why we've not had
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: this guy. If you all know this guy, or a
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: lot of you know this guy, Rob Staton is going
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: to join us for the first time ever in the
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Seahawks One Series. So looking forward to that and looking
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: forward to see which player he chooses. We give them
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: the choice of what player they want to break down
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: because they got a lot of talking to do. Brendan Soresby,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: the Texas Tech quarterback who is in trouble for gambling.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: He was in a courtroom yesterday, apparently a two hour hearing.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: College football has said absolutely not, we have to draw
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: the line on this guy. He cannot continue playing college football.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: And yet he was in a courtroom in Lubbock, Texas
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: of all places, to try to figure out a federal case.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: And so who knows what result We're going to get
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: but he's trying to stay in college football so he
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: can rebuild his reputation one snap at a time. He
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: scheduled to play for the Red Raiders this year. We
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: shall see. Speaking of Texas Tech, a wild day yesterday
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: and the Women's College World Series, the softball Final four
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: was held, and there could have been two games yesterday.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: There could have been four games yesterday. Both Texas and
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Texas Tech had to win both games yesterday against teams
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: who had not yet lost in the College World Series,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: and damn if they didn't both pull it off. So
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Texas takes out Tennessee and Texas Tech takes out Alabama
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: last night, and so the same two teams that met
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: in the championship a year ago are going to meet
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: in the championship this year. The World Series now comes
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: down to a three game series, one game per day,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: starting on Wednesday, between Texas Tech and Texas, two natural rivals.
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: I mean, we've been saying this since last week, but
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: if you are not watching women's college softball, it's highly entertaining.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: It's great. It was on my TV all day long,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: my second TV all day long yesterday, and it has
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: been very enjoyable. Melinda French Gates has joined One Roof.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about this with Chris Daniels today at nine thirty.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Just the significance of this obviously, now though One Roof
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: has the money that the NBA is looking for, if
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: in fact we needed a little extra cash, I think
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: she's got it. So that's kind of the significant news.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: But she'll also be a part of the krack and
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: operation as well. It looks like going forward, so we'll
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: talk about that later. Stanley Cup playoffs are going to
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: start tonight between Las Vegas and Carolina. Seeing a lot
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: of Las Vegas picks, I'm going Carolina. NBA Finals will
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: start on Wednesday, Nicks versus Spurs, as the Mitch Johnson
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Show continues in San Antonio. And of course the Mariners
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: in action last night, three two winners over the New
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: York Mets and ten innings. They've now won seven consecutive
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: games and they are playing Mariner baseball, all close, all
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: handed over to the bullpen, and that's the way we
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: kind of like it. Josh Naylor also left the game
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: with an injury, a backspasm last night. We haven't gotten
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: much of an update. We'll try to find that before
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: the show ends today, and the same two teams will
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: play tonight at six point forty. We'll cover all of
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: it next with Mariners morning after on Sports Radio ninety
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: three point three KJRFM.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Getting someone mentioned golf to this offense could be the secret.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: High fly right field.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Times run number.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Parnis TV on the call last night, Josh Naylor tying
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: the game up at two with that home run and
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: then mysteriously left the game with a h an injury,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: which we didn't get an update on until after the
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: game was over. Turns out he had a backspasm while swinging,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that that back died a hero there in
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: that moment, and so he had to come out of
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: the game and the Mariners still end up pulling it
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: off three to two in ten innings. Cole Young with
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: the game winning RBI in extras. It is just a backspasm,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: That's how they are positioning it. So I think there's
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: a good chance with treatment, we could see Josh Naylor
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: back in the lineup tonight, But then again, I think
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: there's a good chance that he won't be in the
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: lineup tonight. We shall see Logan Gilbert will get the
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: start tonight. For the Ms at six forty again the Mets.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: They will counter with young Jonah Tong Tong to Tong
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Tong Tong.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be great all night in my head.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, six forty, first pitch as the Mariners look to
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: make it eight straight wins. They are on a bit
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: of a roll right now. Let's keep it going. Let's
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: take a look at your other headlines. They are brought
• 25:20
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• 25:25
  Speaker 2: big story, We'll get to that in a moment. Stanley
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Cup playoffs start tonight. It'll be Las Vegas versus Carolina,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Game number one taking place this evening. The NBA Finals
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: won't start until Wednesday. That will be the Knicks at
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: the San Antonio Spurs. Go Mitch Johnson, Go Spurs. Melinda
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: French Gates joins One Roof as a big time investor
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: in both their efforts to lord the Sonics back here
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: to Seattle. And of course I'm sure she's going to
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: be a part of the Kraken ownership group as well.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: So that was big news. We'll talk to Chris Daniels
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: about that today. At nine point thirty, Texas Tech had
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: an interesting day. Yesterday, their quarterback Brendan Soorsby had a
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: two hour hearing to determine whether or not, as a
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: gambling degenerate he will be allowed to play football this
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: year for the Red Raiders, or if he has in
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: fact crossed the line by just being two gambling at
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Texas Tech or prior to arriving at Texas Tech. Meanwhile,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: their softball team nothing but celebratory as they won two
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: games against Alabama yesterday in the Final four. They had
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: to win them both and they make it to the
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: finals to take on Texas starting on Wednesday. That will
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: be a three game series. Speaking of series, the one
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: series continues today here on Chuck and Buck. Rob Staton's
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: going to join us. He'll break down one Seahawk player
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: for one entire interview at eight o'clock. We'll probably also
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: talk to him about the trades that were swung yesterday
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: in the NFL, aj Brown to the New England Patriots
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: for a first round pick and a fifth round pick,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: and the Biggie Miles Garrett has been traded to the
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Los Angeles Rams from the Cleveland Browns for young defensive
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: end Chaired Verse, a first round pick, a second round
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: pick and a third round pick in the next to
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: three in FL drafts. And so with that, we had
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: to bring in the big guns today to talk about
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: this monster of a story. Joining us now is our
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: QB one. Hugh Millan is with us. Good morning, sir.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: What's happening gang, Good to be with you, Great to
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: be with you. What was your reaction to that deal yesterday?
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: Well, it evolved a little bit over the the the day,
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: because you know, I wanted to know what they gave
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: up and and you know, I have somewhat of a
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: fuzzy vision of how players at the age of thirty,
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: at that position even can have a drop off, and
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: I've got some numbers that can bring more focus into
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: that point. But then, as I, you know, endeavored to
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: sit down and say, okay, I to do a lot
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: of tape study on Miles Garrett, and I'm gonna do
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: a fair amount on Jared versus as well, just to
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: see what the Rams traded for. Essentially, when we're talking
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: about the twenty twenty six year, and I, you know,
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: I thought, well, hey, we don't know for sure that
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: the twenty twenty six that you know, certainly beyond twenty
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: twenty six, you could say this is good for the
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: Sea Hawks. There's an argument to be made there. For
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: twenty twenty six, I thought it was a little bit
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: more in question. Well, then the more I spent watching
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: the tape, it's very hard for me to come forth
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: with the argument that the Rams aren't better in twenty
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: twenty six. I mean, you know, just to put this
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: in perspective there. Now, Miles Garrett turned thirty late December,
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: and so he was twenty nine most of the year.
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: But the NFL just to have apples and apples the
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: way they tabulate that it's what's your birthday on or
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: your agent at the December thirty first. So here's the
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: four guys that the top sack achievers age thirty or
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: under in the history of the NFL. There's only four
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: over one hundred. Notice how how these first three are
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: clumped together.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: TJ.
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: Watt at one hundred and one, he's number four, Jared
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: Allen he's number three at one hundred and five, and
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: Reggie White at one hundred and eight. Who's number two.
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: Number one is Miles Garrett at one hundred and twenty
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: four and a half. So and the gap between one
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: and two the gap between Miles Garrett and Reggie White
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: is greater than the gap between second and twelfth on
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: the all time list. So we're we're talking about a
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: guy who is in canton. It's not in pencil, it's
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: not in penn it's already been emblazoned on in brass.
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: And he doesn't have to worry about losing his hair
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: because his bust has already been made.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: He's in canon. Yeah, yeah, no question about it. A
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: phenomenal football player, there's no question on that front. And
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: so how much better does he does one guy? I mean,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: you are already good at that position. How much better
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: does Miles Garrett? Then make the rams?
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: Well, I compared him to Jared Verse, and and really
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: there's no comparison. We're talking about a class of player
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: that I mean, if you think the great defense, the
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: edge players of all time, you want to say Lawrence Taylor,
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: Reggie White, Bruce Smith, whatever, whatever league you can put,
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: he's in every league. So so then you throw on
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: the tape and you look at Jared Vers, who's a
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: very good player, I mean a Pro Bowl ish level player,
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: but he can't compete with that class of player. I mean,
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: if you look at my Garrett just watching the tape.
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: Here's the guy that the first thing you noticed before
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: the balls even snapped is his frame is six to
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: four in a quarter, which is a fifty eighth percentile
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: on height, but his arm length is is ninety fourth percentile.
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: In fact, out of two hundred three defensive ends who
• 31:18
  Speaker 7: had his a sack or more last last year, he
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: had the tenth longest arms. So the old saying low
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: man wins. That's great. We say, well, you want tall guys.
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: You want tall guys because you generally want the correlation
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: of the height to arm length. But he has the
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: arm length, his strength. His forty one in is vertical.
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: I had to I had to say, there's no way
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: where he jumped forty one. It's no way I had.
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: I had to check like four sources before I'd come
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: on to the radio with this. It's the highest ever
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: for any player ever at two hundred and seventy pounds
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: more and he was two seventy two. You say, well,
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: you don't really jump much in on the field. That's
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: not the point. The point is is is the power
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: which was defined to me when I was playing in
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: the in the weight rooms. His strength over time his
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: power and then that shows up on field is how
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: twitchy and how powerful And he had thirty three reps
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: on the on the bench ninety fifth percent of so
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: the strength the frame, he's thick, tall enough, but then
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: has leveraged long arms I mean like and his four
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: six four forty times the seventh best ever for anybody
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: over two seventy. So, so the athletic profile is there.
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: And then and then stats. I mentioned what he's done
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: in his career, but last year uh twenty three sacks
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: obviously a record setting number one Havoc plays. This is
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: an NFL stat that got off of their portal that
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: that is defined as one of five things tackles for
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: lost force, fumbls, interceptions, pass breakups, are sacked. He's number
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: one in the entire league at any position in Havoc plays.
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: Hits on a quarterback number two. Pressures number four now
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: is he's a durable guy, played a lot of snaps.
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: Is pressure percentage at seventeen and a half percent, that's number
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: thirty three in the league. But that is that is
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: offset by this stat the double team that is defined
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: the NFL says point four seconds or more engaged by
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: two or more blockers. He had one hundred and eighty
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: six rushes where he was double team. That's the most
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: since twenty eighteen. So yeah, really dominant. And when you
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: look at verse, he almost looks like a JV player
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: compared to Miles Garrett. When you throw in the end
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: zone copy, which is how lineman study the tape, the
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: game tape. I'm looking at the same stuff the Seahawks
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: and the Rams and the Browns are looking at, and
• 33:44
  Speaker 7: you just see, you know, just an entirely different cut
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: of steak.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Wow. QB one. Hugh Millan is with us here to
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: talk about the Miles Garrett trade yesterday sent shockwaves throughout
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: the National Football League and of course here where we're
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: World champs in Seattle. How are we going to contend
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: with this new foe? Charles Cross is pretty good, but
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: is he good enough? Are we going to have to
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: prepare double teams for Miles Garrett twice this season, maybe
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: three times this season? Or do you think that Charles
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Cross or any left tackle can hold their own against
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: this beast? Well, you got to have a.
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: Plan, certainly, and you know you're gonna you know, turn
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: the protection half slider turn, which means that you generally
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: want the cent. He's a right end by the way,
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: I think he was number one and plays off the
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: right end and versus was a right end, so that's
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: a swap of the same position. He doesn't always play
• 34:41
  Speaker 7: it right in, but he has the highest percentage of
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: playing at right end. So if if the Rams are
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: only in a four man rush, you would want the
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: center to slide to the left and maybe depending on
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: the front, the center can get the next guy in
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: and then Gray's abel can go out and help, and
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: you can get a double team, or you can you
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: can have a tight end. Obviously you can keep a
• 35:03
  Speaker 7: tight end in well that that's gonna that's gonna hinder
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: you against zone coverages because the tight end who was
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: was supposed to it. If you're not the primary at
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: least he's supposed to be in the pattern to influence
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: zone defenders to that side, you're gonna lose that.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: You know, you can chip running backs and what have you,
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: but sometimes depending on the capability of the chip or
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: sometimes that messes up the tackle more and gets gets
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: him off balance or they collide into each other. So
• 35:32
  Speaker 7: there's there's there's no one hardened, agreed upon way to
• 35:38
  Speaker 7: double team. But you're gonna double You're gonna have a
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: plan to do it. And if Cross can't hold up,
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: you can't just say, well, you know we're gonna shut
• 35:46
  Speaker 7: down the office today. You still gotta function.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Do the Seahawks have to make some sort of counter
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: move to this that you the Rams just got better yesterday,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: so now it's on John Schneider to find a player
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: that can counteract that. Or do they just go with, Hey,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: we're in a great position, young team coming off a
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl. We're just going to count on improving and
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: just doing it the right way the rest of the time.
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: Well, I kind of put that question into two categories
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: of answers. I don't think that you do anything to
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: the Seahawks offense. You know, there's no offensive per se
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: to specifically deal with Miles Garrett. You're not going to
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: replace Charles Cross, right, You're you.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Know, you know, I don't.
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: I don't think you're going to go out and get
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: some kind of elite blocking tight end that you say, well,
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: you know, we're going to help Charles Cross with him,
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: and certainly there's no tight end the league that can
• 36:43
  Speaker 7: handle him. So so I don't. I don't think in
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: that regard. I think I think you're probably asking the
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: broader question, Hey, do the Seahawks make some more impact acquisition,
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: perhaps on the defense, not necessarily to contend with Miles Garrett,
• 36:59
  Speaker 7: you know, directly, but maybe, but just an indirect response
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: to make the team better. That's fine. I mean, I
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: think you can categorize it. Look, the the Rams are
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: going pot committed on this, right, I mean, they are
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: playing the short game and it's logical for them for
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: a couple of reason. Number one and most importantly, Matthew
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: Stafford and not only was the the MVP. In my
• 37:22
  Speaker 7: tape study of Matthew Stafford, I thought he was an
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: MVP that you only kind of see that performance every
• 37:28
  Speaker 7: three four five years. That wasn't just you know, uh
• 37:32
  Speaker 7: oh yeah, he's the best this year. That was the
• 37:34
  Speaker 7: best performance I've seen. If you had a five year MVP,
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: he was the MVP based on that. I mean, he
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: was that good in my opinion. So now his health
• 37:43
  Speaker 7: has been in question. He didn't throw all through August,
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: so I don't know what he needs to come forward
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: and help the rest of humanity. How he solved that
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: dog on backpropa because for him to play at that
• 37:55
  Speaker 7: level after having not been able to essentially move back
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: in August is is quite an accomplishment by somebody. But
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: you know, so you said they acquired Trent McDuffie. They
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: obviously with this, Miles Garrett, they're all in. They're playing
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: a short game for logical reasons, and they've done it.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Before in twenty twenty one.
• 38:19
  Speaker 7: And where I thought, you know, I'm kind of eating
• 38:22
  Speaker 7: my popcorn watching the twenty one Super Bowl against the
• 38:26
  Speaker 7: Bengals and say, all right, all right, you got that one,
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: but you're gonna have to pay the piper at some point.
• 38:32
  Speaker 7: You know, this is gonna be fun watching you guys.
• 38:34
  Speaker 7: You know, splat not bounce, And yet it seemed like
• 38:39
  Speaker 7: it didn't happen. So let's need the GM. My old
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: buddy Kevin Demoff, the president, who's the son of Marvin Demoff,
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: who is my agent all.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Through through my career.
• 38:50
  Speaker 7: I mean, the people in charge at the RAMS, they
• 38:53
  Speaker 7: sure as hell know what they do, and they've won
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: a short game Super Bowl in a manner that didn't
• 38:58
  Speaker 7: seem to cripple them in the sub sequent years. So
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: now if Ty Simpson can't play, then they're gonna be
• 39:04
  Speaker 7: in some trouble uh down the line.
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: But but I think the.
• 39:07
  Speaker 7: Sea Yorks are playing more of the long game. So
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: I think Schneider will possibly look, you know, but I
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: don't think this is gonna, you know, cause him to
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: deviate from their philosophy.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, and I don't want him to.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Quite frankly, I mean things are going pretty well, you know,
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: pretty good, pretty good situation.
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: That we've got up here in Yeah, you know, you
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: got a younger quarterback by ten years, and and uh
• 39:32
  Speaker 7: you know, a young defense, and and you've got a
• 39:35
  Speaker 7: uh this is kind of John Schneider what I call
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: John Schneider three point zero. I mean, the first seven
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: years with with Carrol's was incredible, won nine playoff games.
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: The second seven years won one playoff game. Uh, and
• 39:50
  Speaker 7: then now we had to say, okay, how do Mike
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: McDonald and uh John Schneider mesh and and obviously these
• 39:59
  Speaker 7: pass Cup years showing that the acquisition of uh, you know,
• 40:02
  Speaker 7: what they've assembled that they they they are working not
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: just well in concert, they're working the best in concert arguably.
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: And so so I think they feel like, hey, we
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: just we just plot our course and and over the
• 40:16
  Speaker 7: long haul. Even if the Rams were to get us
• 40:19
  Speaker 7: this now, they're they're they're not conceding that. Let me
• 40:21
  Speaker 7: let me say that, you know, they would bristle that assumption,
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: but I think that they just are going to hold
• 40:27
  Speaker 7: to the long game.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: It is uh, it's it's quite the statement that they
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: made yesterday. You now have the reigning MVP and the
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: reigning Defensive Player of the Year on the same ball,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: on the same roster. I should say, yeah, I mean,
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I imagine if Dan Marino and Lawrence Taylor would have
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: hooked up once upon a time.
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: You don't see these kind of pairings often, right, I mean,
• 40:49
  Speaker 7: you know Hall of Famers. Yeah, and you know, and
• 40:53
  Speaker 7: just watching the tape, you know, I'm here, I'm rattling
• 40:56
  Speaker 7: off stats, but but watching the tape, you know the
• 40:59
  Speaker 7: guy Garrett, you know, he has every you know, the
• 41:03
  Speaker 7: first thing, Okay, does he have the speed? Can he
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: turn the corner?
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 41:08
  Speaker 7: His speed to power absolutely. We talked about the bull rush,
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: just the straight bull rush. Yes, he powered. And then
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: he has this thing, this kind of euro step whereas
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: the right end he's he comes up on a left
• 41:20
  Speaker 7: tackle and his outside leg. He kind of takes a
• 41:23
  Speaker 7: big step that would be his right leg, but then
• 41:26
  Speaker 7: he like he crossovers like an NBA player going down
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: the middle of the lane with this big euro step.
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: Then he goes straight laterally with this huge euro step
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: to his left foot and then accelerates. He pulled that
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: move that I just described against Trent Williams, the Hall
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: of Fame bound left tackle for the forty nine ers.
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: He got the sack on Rock Purdy. The NFL registered
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: it at two point three seconds. That is that is
• 41:53
  Speaker 7: just freaky and Trent Williams Burriley laid a fingernail on
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: on Garrett Well and just like that was just jaw dropping.
• 42:02
  Speaker 7: And then he he does that same move and then
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: goes back out to the outside. So it's an out
• 42:06
  Speaker 7: in out euro step. Like he's got this whole bevy.
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: I think the only thing he doesn't have great hands,
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: He just uses his strength and feet. And then I
• 42:16
  Speaker 7: would say, lastly on his profile, he uh, you know
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: everybody talks about his first step. I would say, he
• 42:24
  Speaker 7: reminds me, have you ever written a driven a V
• 42:28
  Speaker 7: six turbo in the day? You know where you punch
• 42:32
  Speaker 7: the accelerator and it just takes a split second longer.
• 42:36
  Speaker 7: Like I don't think Miles great Garrett has an elite
• 42:39
  Speaker 7: first step, he's too big, but his second step and
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: and his third and fourth like once just a split
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: second where once he gets going that acceleration, and of
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: course his body's built like a HEMI if I'm going
• 42:52
  Speaker 7: to continue the analogy. So that's that's the profile that
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: I would summarize from watching the tape. It's it's it's
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: a it's impressive, it's devastating. I think Charles Cross, you know,
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: is chugging some tombs this morning and last night. You know,
• 43:10
  Speaker 7: if he happened to watch the tape I watched.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Well, get like you said earlier, get out the popcorn.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be very interesting here Seahawks versus Rams. I'm
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: not sure the forty nine ers can hang in this
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: conversation anymore.
• 43:23
  Speaker 7: So, well, I hope you're writing that on the forty
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: nine ers front. You know, if we can clear things out,
• 43:29
  Speaker 7: I don't have to deal with it till late in
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: the season. But I think the NFL looks at at
• 43:34
  Speaker 7: these two teams as the clear you know, the clear
• 43:40
  Speaker 7: classes of the league. And in Seattle they've lost a
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: little more, so you probably figure they're right, you know,
• 43:48
  Speaker 7: if you're a gambling man, you say they're just about
• 43:51
  Speaker 7: neck and neck.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: All right, man, great stuff as always, Thank you so much,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: appreciate it.
• 43:55
  Speaker 7: Thank you.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Is Humell and r QB one here at kJ R
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: breaking it down. Of course, that's the that's the call
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: you make when a Milescarett trade something of that significance
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: goes down, you got to get huge thoughts on it.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: So we're glad we could catch up with him here
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: this morning. Coming up next though, on the radio Progrim
• 44:13
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• 44:37
  Speaker 2: let you know that Rob Staton, for the first time ever,
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: is going to be joining us in our one series
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: at eight o'clock. So we've already talked a lot about
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Miles Scarett joining the Rams here this morning. You just missed,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Hugh probably kicking yourself over that. Just huge breakdown of
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: it at seven oh five. But we have a lot
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: more on Miles Scarett coming your way. But certainly we
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: have a baseball team playing it's best base ball right now,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: playing Mariners baseball right now, and figuring out how to
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: win games. Late last night, a three to two victory
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: over the New York Mets to make it seven in
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: a row. And the formula is there. It's starting pitching.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: It's a bullpen that seems fresh and fantastic, just like
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: you exactly, Oh I need a T shirt says.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: That, Yes, I'll get on that right, fantastic.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: So that's going well, and then just getting just enough
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: offense and actually knocking in runs. I mean, we should
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: have been on sackwatch last night. Turns out we didn't
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: need one because Cole Young ends up getting a base
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: hit off the end of the bat for a game
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: winning RBI single that scores Randy or Rose Arena. So
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: where's the alphabet gonna take us here this morning? Well,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: we left off of the letter D yesterday. D is
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: for Dan Dan Wilson, and I realized that a lot
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: of you are still crushing him for this, but I
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: think we've seen some progress in the area of Dan
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Wilson and his left righty platoons that he is doing.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: I think that was wonderful. I suggested it yesterday. The
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Mets are not sticking with Austin Warren. Everybody knew that.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Beyond an inning or two, he only went one. You're
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: gonna see Sean Maniah most likely coming in soon into
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: the game. But there was also a chance they could
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: go to a long reliever who was right handed in
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: that situation if you built up too much of a
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: right handed lineup, And so he did the little balancing act.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: He had Raley and Refsneinder in the lineup and the
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: same time, which we rarely ever see. And then he
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: just kind of had to write it out. You know,
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: they brought in Maniah. I'm not gonna take out Rayleigh.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: But in the seventh inning they did take out Rayley,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: and they brought in Patrick Wisdom, and he didn't come through.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: He was zero for two. He certainly did not come
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: through for the team last night. But to me, that's progress.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: To me, those are correct moves. They don't always work
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: out those are correct moves in that situation. And so
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: I I think what we're seeing here recently out of
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Dan is him getting his arms around this, getting a
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: handle on how he should be platooning when he should
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: be pinchhitting. I see progress.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: I've seen it as well.
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: And it is funny though, because I think we are
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: so accustomed to being irritated with his moves. We got
• 47:15
  Speaker 6: a text when we came in this morning that was
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: why the f did he pinch hit for Naylor? The
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: person didn't have their TV volume on, so they didn't
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: realize Naylor had.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Been hurt, but they were like, what are you doing?
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: So I felt bad just sitting there angry at Dan
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: Wilson for sixteen hours.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: But luckily now they can be calmed.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, and I know, and so we kind
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: of just jumped to this. But Luke Rayley can't hit
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: left handers, he never has. I think it's a good
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: idea to platoon him. I think it is a good
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: idea to pinch hit him. I don't like pinch hitting
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: him too early, penchhitting for him too early, because I
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: won him late. Like the Diamondbacks series, was a perfect
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: example of that. They only have one left hander, they
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: can only play that trick one time. It's like the
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: scene with the the you know, the the green bomb
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: and Game of Thrones, you know, the you know, the
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: dwarf can only play that trick one time.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Think about it for a second.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: And so that's what they had to do in that situation.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: So I see some progress there, and I think he's
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: finally starting to understand how he wants to incorporate this now.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: I just brought up Byron Buckston's name yesterday on Day
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: one a trade season. That helps with a lot of strategy.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: If you just can have a superstar playing the outfield
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: every day and you don't ever have to consider pinch
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: hitting for him.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: That would be nice.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: That's how wonderful.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just imagining it.
• 48:35
  Speaker 6: Although the concern I think when we've brought up Buckston
• 48:39
  Speaker 6: is does he have a no trade clause? But then
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: I was thinking, I mean a lot of people have
• 48:42
  Speaker 6: a no trade clause. You just have to have the
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: right trade partner that they'll agree to go to.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he said last year he was never going to
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: wave it, and then all of a sudden he said,
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: I would for the right situation. How could this not
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: be the right situation playing for this team. He's already
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: accustomed to the life in the North.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: There's at least a chance.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Uh oh, I think more than a chance. I think
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: if we traded for Byron Bucks and he'd be like,
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: where do I sign? All right? He is for Ewing.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: We saw aj Ewing, who is one of the Mets
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: young prospects, and he's made quite a splash with the
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: New York Mets. And he made two good plays last night,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: to very good plays, maybe even one great play. But
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: of course he did make one play in which he
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: timed out his dive so that he could be on
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: the highlights last night. And I just want to take
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: this time to again, I hope you appreciate that Cole
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Young made a much better defensive play than either of
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: the aj Ewing plays last night. But I'm sure Ewing
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: got on all the highlights because he got his grass,
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: He got grass on his jersey. But Cole Young just
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: waited on a high chopper at second base and turns
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: the double play with a runner crossing right in front
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: of his face. Do you know the degree of difficulty
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: of that play? Do you know what this young man
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: is doing at second base so far for this base
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: ball team. I mean, this is the second time in
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: a week where I think he has made just a
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: sensational play that won't ever get on the highlight film
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: because he didn't leave his feet in order to do it.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, that was a great Once again, Cole Young
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: authored a great defensive play, even if the stupid umpire
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: didn't know the rules.
• 50:23
  Speaker 6: And I thought Cole Young's play was equally impressive, so
• 50:26
  Speaker 6: I think it should have made a highlight reel. And also,
• 50:28
  Speaker 6: does New York just have a thing with Ewing's They
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: like stars named ewing Is?
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, yes they do know it's funny thing. Dallas
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: the TV show was originally supposed to be shot in
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: New York.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: That makes so much more sense now, Jr.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: You right, sneaking, that's how much they love you. Yeah,
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: makes sense, Patrick Jr. And a pretty much the mount
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: rushmore of Ewings.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: That's it right there, all right.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: F is for fail And not only did that umpire
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: because I'm not done with that umpire? Well, how stupid
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: are you?
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: Buddy?
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: Like what else? What else was Cole Young supposed to do?
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: And you literally wanted to call interference on that play unreal.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: I am glad that you had another umpire to tell you.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: I'm going to try to cover for you on this,
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: but you are looking really dumb right now, like you
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: don't know basic rules.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: The basic rules of thing.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: But that's not who's going to be my fail. F
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: is for fail and I am directing that at the
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Mariners television broadcast. Why do we do this? And I'm
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: not blaming Brad or Angie. This is all about the
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Mariners not giving updated information. I don't why why do
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: you protect this? You have a fan base that wants
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: to know things that you should be happy that you
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: have thousands of Mariner fans, tens of thousands, hundreds of
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: thousands of Mariners fans watching that really want to know
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: why Josh Naylor left the game.
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: I just told you about a guy who thought he
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: just got pinchhip for it because he had no clue
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: because there was no update.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: You don't talk about it when a guy goes out.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's one thing because I'm gonna blame Aaron
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: on this too. Number One, you don't need to protect
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: injury information like that. Dan then got to his press
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: conference and said it as casually as could be. Yeah,
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: he had a backspasm when he swung, and we just,
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: you know, precaution took him out. But we don't think
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: it's going to be anything big. We'll see, says a cat.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Why can't that be mentioned? This is not football. And
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: even in football you have sideline reporters that get information
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: from the teams and pass.
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: It along knee injury return doubtful, right, And that's in
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: football when they can come back into the game.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, once a guy leaves the game, what are you protecting?
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: Why do you need to protect his injury information? Let
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: the audience know what's going on with Josh Naylor, especially
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: when it's something as semi as well. He tweaked his
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: back a little bit on that home run swing, and
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: we just felt it was better to take him out
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: of the game. Why can't that be told to Brad
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: or Angie and relayed onto the broadcast. And if you're
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: not gonna do it, if you simply nope, that's our policy.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: We're not gonna do it. We're not gonna We're not
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: going to tell our fans anything. Then at least tell
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: your play by play man to talk about Josh Naylor
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: not being in the game anymore. We do this all
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: the time. Somebody gets hurt and then we act like
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: it didn't happen. That was the biggest story going on
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: in the game, and we act like there's a no
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: hitter being thrown, which I have a problem with in
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: the beginning. In the beginning, you know that we don't
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: mention when a no hitter is being thrown. Are you
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: kidding me? You are the narrator to the baseball season
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: and to the baseball game, and you're not gonna talk
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: about the biggest issues during a game. Josh Naylor leaving
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: with a mysterious injury is a big deal in a
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: baseball game. And not only do the Mariners keep the
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: information from getting to the sideline reporters, the play by
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: play man won't address it. And I think it's a
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: complete failure on the part of Mariners TV. So John
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: Stanton listens all the time. John put an end to it.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: It's silly. It is ridiculous. There is no reason that
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: you can't update us in a game when one of
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: our star players leaves with a mysterious injury. When you
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: have the information right there at your fingertips, and it's
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: not going to hurt any person, any player, it's not
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: going to give any kind of strategic advantage to the opponent. Nothing,
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: give us the information. We shouldn't have to wait till
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: after the game is over to find out that it's
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: no big deal.
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: Well, and it didn't seem like we used to have
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: to find that out. It seems like a recent thing
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: because they used to. I know, when I was covering games,
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: they'd announce what in the press box, what it was
• 54:53
  Speaker 6: that the person was out with.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: It's the point of having a sideline reporter, that is
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: the absolute There's no point in showing us what kind
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: of food you get in a suite. There's no point
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: to having a sideline reporter that Like in the NFL,
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: just asked the head coach as he's coming off, how
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: did the offense look? How did the defense look?
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: What are you gonna do in the second half?
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Pointless gathering information in game that the fans and the
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: viewers don't have access to. That is the primary job
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: of the sideline reporter, and the Mariners won't let their
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: sideline reporters do their primary functions. Let us know what's
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: going on. We've had this with cal We've had this
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: with Julio. We've had star players who have left games
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: and we've got to go innings hours without knowing if
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: he's okay or not. It's ridiculous. Stop doing it, period,
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: end of story. I would agree, all right, coming out
• 55:52
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• 55:54
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• 56:38
  Speaker 2: we've never had this guest on during our Seahawks one series,
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: and I'm excited about it because I've heard him talk
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Seahawks all the time. I also do find it very curious, Ashley,
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: while all of the young, handsome journalists that come on
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: our radio program always want to do zoom calls, so
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: I have to look at my old haggard face next
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: to theirs. Seems to be a trend.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: Think he just answered on questions you know exactly why
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: they do it?
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're rubbing it in my face. Hey,
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: buddy youth you Yeah, I think that's what's happening. Joining
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: us on the program. He is the senior sports journalist
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: at BBC Sheffield. He talks Seahawks across the Pond. He
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: has a Seahawks blog and you hear him a lot
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: here in Seattle. Rob Staton is with us here on
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: Chuck and Buck. How are you man?
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: Fantastic Chuck it. It's it's great to be with you,
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: and also to know that you are another person in
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: America who can't help but introduce somebody from England without
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: doing a British accent.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Did I do it? Did I slip into it?
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: He did it?
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: Slyly slip into just a little bit. I don't want to.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: Ashley's mom's British, so I feel like through her, you're allowed.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: I'm allowed.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's got to be as fun.
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: I like it. I like it as long as you know,
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say yeha or anything joining this interview,
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: so it's a one way street in that regard.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: You know what, though, I think I might have the
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: best one of anyone you've ever heard.
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: It's pretty good. It's pretty good. That's that's a Southern accent.
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: So I'm in the north, so I you know, I'm
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: kind of like, yeah.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Liverpo Can Liverpool.
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: If you've ever watched Game of Rows, I'm in the
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: Winterval area and that's more in the south. But it's
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: a it's a very good British accent that you Oh.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: Good, you court me too.
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry, Robert, I'm so sorry.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: He's getting now uncomfortable with it. I at first I
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: was just playing along, but now we need to stop
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: and talk about the Seahawks. All right, Well, it's great
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: to have you on. I will be careful with my
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: British accent in the future, I promise. But let's uh,
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: let's launch into this thing. So who have you chosen
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: you had anyone but Byron Murphy that you could have
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: broken down with us today. What Seahawk player do you
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: want to talk about for the next fifteen minutes.
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: I have picked DeMarcus Lawrence. He is perhaps my favorite
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: player on the team at the moment, and I never
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: waste an opportunity to talk positively about DeMarcus Lawrence.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: All right, well, I definitely want to get into it.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: But speaking of defensive ends, I got to get your
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: thoughts on what happened yesterday Miles Garrett to the Rams.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Your reaction.
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: I'm really disappointed by that news. I think a lot
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: of Seahawks fans will be. I genuinely think this is
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: an amazing move by the Rams. I don't take any
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: pleasure in saying that when you can take the argue
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: with the best player in the NFL, certainly the best
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: defensive player in the NFL, and you put him with
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: a Sean McVay offense with Matthew Stafford. If they both
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: stay healthy, Stafford and Miles Garrett, the Rams are going
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: to be the team to be next season. They are
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: going to be incredibly difficult. It doesn't mean that they're
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: guaranteed to win anything. Doesn't mean that they're going to
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: win the NFC West or the Super Bowl or anything
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: like that. But you can't help but think this is
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: a great deal for the Rams. I think they've got
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: good value from the trade. I think it's gonna make
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: life harder for the Seahawks and the Niners in that division.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: And you kind of wonder, is there anything the Seahawks
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: can do between now and the start of the season
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: to throw a counterpunchhit?
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, would you do something? Or do you look at
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks and say, man, things are going really well.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, world champs, young team, good cap situation, just
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: stay the course and win the race and the long
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: term I.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: Think I would be prepared to do something if it's
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: for the right reasons. You can't just react to the
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: Rams trading for Miles Garrett and then feel like you've
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: got to do something and then overspend in a trade.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: But if you get to let's say six weeks into
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: the season and the Las Vegas Raiders are struggling again,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: and they think, do you know what, we need to
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: look for more draft stock and we need to make
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: more of an investment in the future. We are going
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: to review trading Max Crosby again, We'll see what's out there.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: I'd be very interested in doing something like that. I'm
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: not sure that's the kind of deal you can be
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 5: able to strike now. It's probably something that's down the line,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: maybe even when the season starts. As a mention, So yeah,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: i'd be very open minded about doing something. I'm just
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 5: not sure how possible that is today or before training camp.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: Rob Staton is with us. I know you've heard and
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: read Rob's work. He blogs so the Seahawks works over
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: a BBC Sheffield and he's I mean, he's wearing a
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Seahawks hat on our Zoom call. For goodness sake, this
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: man loves himself some Seattle Seahawks. So it's great to
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: have him on to do our Seahawks one series. And
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: as he's already mentioned, he is going to break down
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: for US today. DeMarcus Lawrence. So what ran through your mind,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: being a DeMarcus Lawrence admirer when we were hearing in
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: the offseason that he was contemplating stepping away from the
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: game and ending with a championship.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, very concerned about that because I don't think you
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: can replace DeMarcus Lawrence. With a rookie. So when there
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: was taught that he might retire and you're looking at
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: some of these players that were available in the draft,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: you're thinking, no one is going to come into this
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: team and he's going to be able to replace his leadership,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: his presence, his physicality versus the run. There were not
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: many great options in free agency as well, so it
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: was a concern. Now they've got good players on the roster.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: I think Derek Cole potentially could be the air apparent
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: to DeMarcus Lawrence and could be the long term version
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: of what Delau provides for the Seahawks. But right now
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: and here and now, in terms of your best chances
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: of getting back to a Super Bowl next season, you
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: needed DeMarcus Lawrence, so that was a concern. I think
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: him revealing last week that he is going to be
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: playing next season and that he's not retiring was the
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: best piece of information the Seks could have got this offseason.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: It's not been particularly eventful. They've not made any big trades.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: They've replaced the players they lost in free agency in
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: the draft. I think the big news, the most positive
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 5: news they could have had, they did have last week.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: DeMarcus Lawrence returning for the twenty twenty six season.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: And it didn't sound like he was all that serious
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: about it. It sounds like a story kind of ran
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: them up this offseason and he just didn't take the
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: time to squelch h I mean, that was my interpretation, Rob.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know about yours, but I'm not sure DeMarcus
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: Lawrence was thinking about hanging it up. And after watching
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: him kind of own the streets during our Super Bowl
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: parade with his shirt off and he looked like he
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: was having a better time than anyone else out there,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: I would have been shocked had he not returned to
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: this football team.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: Well, firstly, if I looks as good as Debarcus Lawrence
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: without my shirts, and I would never wear a shirt
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: like I would just walk around shirtless the whole time.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so going to get produce, Yeah, no big deal.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 5: Well welcome to him for that. But I don't know,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: because he's just had a child. You get to a
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: point in your life playing in the NFL. I've never
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: been an NFL player, so I'm not speaking from experience
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: it at all, but I imagine it's a bit like
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: running into a brick wall every week seventeen times a year,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: and it will take a lot out of you. He's
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: played for a long time, He's had some injuries in
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: his career, even last season that he missed a couple
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: of games. So I do think that when you get
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: to his age, you are probably constantly thinking about whether
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: you want to come back and play another year. And
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: when you win the Super Bowl, it would be the
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: perfect time if you are thinking of retiring, to go
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: out on a high. But then I also imagine that
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 5: for some people, moving away from something that's been a
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: huge part of your life and then sudden deciding you're
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: going to do something completely different is a huge decision
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: as well. And if he just loves playing the game
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 5: and enjoys the game, he's maybe taking his time to
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: give this real careful consideration. And then it's thought, of course,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: I'm going to play like gu I'm going to come back.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: I want to play again. I love playing with this team.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: He said that last season he'd had more fun than
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: at any point in his career. It feels like a
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: really close connected group. He's playing for an amazing defensive
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 5: minded head coach. So yeah, really great news that he's
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 5: coming back and the Seahawks are going to really need
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: him next season.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: Rab Staton is whether we're doing our Seahawks one series,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: one analyst breaking down one key Seahawk player for one
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: entire interview, and he's a recruiter obviously played a hand
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: in bringing over Dante Fowler. Your thoughts on that, and
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: then secondarily the bigger picture. You know, we're talking about
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: Miles Garrett to start this interview. He's joined the division.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: This team's lost boy A Mafe in the offseason. Not
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: that he was a huge contributor to the sack total
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: here in Seattle, but it's one player off of your
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: front seven grouping. So just talk about him recruiting Fowler
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: and if that's enough to keep this pass rush elite.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: Well, they absolutely needed somebody else, and Dante Fowler of
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 5: the remaining options, was one of the most attractive in
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: terms of pure pressures. Last season. He was still very
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: productive and has been for some time. Whether he's got
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: enough juice left to be the kind of player that
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: we became familiar with when he was playing for the
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: Rams previously, I don't know whether that's going to be
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: enough again, I don't know. Boya Mafe did not get
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: a lot of sacks last year, but he was reasonable
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: when it came to pressures. If the Seahors can replace that,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: then they may feel somewhat confident that they can get
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: this done. But they did need somebody else, And it
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: seems that the impact of Adam Dirty is really underrated
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: as well. He played a big part in DeMarcus Lawrence
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: comeing to Seattle a year ago. They worked together in Dallas.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: Dante Fowler's worked with Adam Dirty as well. It feels
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: as if his influence plus DeMarcus Lawrence's has helped bring
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: him here. The one thing that just gives me that
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: little bit of pause is in the two the last
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 5: two games against the Rams, they didn't get a lot
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 5: of pressure on Matthew Stafford. They need some quick wins
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: against Stafford and the Rams if they are going to
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: have a better defensive performance in the future against that team.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure if they've done enough to address that.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure if Dante Fowler is enough to solve
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: that problem. That is going to be a key question
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: mark when they eventually play the Rams late in the season,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: as they're going to this season twice. At the end
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 5: of the year.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: What about Lawrence's age. Yeah, as you know in the
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: National Football League, sometimes you can look good one day
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden you hit that wall.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: You were concerned at all that Lawrence is near the wall.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: I think you always have to be conscious of that.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: The one thing I do think, and I was writing
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: about this last week, was if you are going to
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: be a Super Bowl team, I think you need some
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: experienced veteran players. And the comparison that I made was
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: the Philadelphia Eagles when they won their two Super Bowls
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: and lost the Super Bowl as well to the Chiefs
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: in a shootout. You know, they had the likes of
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: Fletcher Cox, Brandon Graham, Jason Kelcey Lane Johnson who obviously
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: is still playing now. Fletcher Cox and Brandon Graham and
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: Kelsey probably were not at their peak performance level when
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 5: they actually got to the Super Bowl, but their ability
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: to have been there, done it, got the t shirt
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: lead by example, provide a physical presence in the trenches,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: be able to get up and do it week after
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: week after week and be really consistent is and it
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: compliments of the young players that the Eagles had. And
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: I think with DeMarcus Lawrence and with players like Jaron
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: Reid and Cooper Cup on this roster. That's why the
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: Sealks needed them last year, is that you've got a
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: lot of talented younger players. But when you've got the
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: two players who are barking at the rest of the
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 5: team in the tunnel before the Carolina game, who are
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: they It's it's Marcus Lawrence. It's Jaron Reid. Who are
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 5: the people leading the huddles? It's Jaron Reid. It's to
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: Marcus Lawrence. You need some players like this. So whether
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: or not he's going to hit a wall in the future,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: as you quietly said, when he's walking around with his
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: shirts off, the guy doesn't like he's going to hit
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 5: a wall. That it took. Yeah, I mean, he looks
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: better than a lot of these college students who are
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 5: coming into the league age twenty one. So I don't
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: worry too much about that. Injuries eventually will catch up
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: with you, but I'm confident that he can give us
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: another season of football here.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: What do you think is his greatest attribute? If you
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: are listing, then he has numerous ones. But is it
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: something tangible or intangible? Is it leadership or is it physicality?
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: What would you rank. DeMarcus Lawrence's main attribute.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: I think the main thing is is we saw what
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: helped the Sealk to be such a productive past rush
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: team last year was that they could rush with for
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: whatever the situation, and that allowed them to play nick
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: emun Worry as this kind of roaming hybrid player who
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: could almost act like a Sam linebacker some of the
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: time and then drop into coverage and other times. And
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: the reason they could do that is because they've got
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: the four upfront, the not having some blitzer as much
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: having to put extra bodies into the pass rush. And
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: you could only do that if your front four are
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: very good against the run and the pass and having
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: somebody like DeMarcus Lawrence who can line up. If I
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: was an offensive tackle and I'm looking across at DeMarcus Lawrence,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: I'm not thinking this is going to be an easy
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: day for me. He's going to make your life a
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 5: misery against the run, and then he's going to provide
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: some pass rush ability as well. So he is a
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: complete edge rusher. He's not the biggest, he's not two
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 5: hundred and seventy five pounds, but he kind of plays
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: like he is versus the run. So you've got that,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: you've got some pass rush. He provided a big plays.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: Think of those two touchdowns he got against Arizona, the
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 5: sat fumble against Minnesota, who was one of the best
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: plays of the season, even if it was against a
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 5: very inexperienced quarterback. Still that's going and make the play.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 5: Those are the kind of moments he provides, as well
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 5: as doing the dirty work that he needed defensive linemen
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 5: to do, defend the run, set a tone up front,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 5: be physical, mate, life difficult for the other team. He
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: definitely does that, along with all the leadership qualities he has,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: and he's got that alpha presence. He's very experienced, and
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: it's just to get off the bus kind of player,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: isn't he. He gets off the bus the other team
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: though they're in for a battle.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's interesting he said that because when he was
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: when he when the Seas acquired him, and I saw
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: the weight. You know, you start doing your little research
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: and you want to pass on the information on the airwaves,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: and so I saw the height and weight and I'm like, wait, no,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: that can't be right. He's much bigger than that, isn't he.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is about him, but he
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: plays a lot bigger than he actually is. I mean,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: even to this, I got to watch him every snap
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: this past season. I'd still I still think he looks
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: like a two hundred and seventy five pound player. He
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: just seems to impact the game from a physical standpoint
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: more so than his weight suggests. Yeah.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm about one hundred and ninety pounds and
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 5: his six pat looks like it weighs as much as
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 5: I do. So I don't really understand how he's like
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 5: two fifty or something like that. I mean, the guy
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: looks about two seventy pounds. Yeah, and it's all muscle.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: He's got muscles on muscles, hasn't he. So he looks big,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 5: and yet he's got that still got that extra bit
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: of quickness to get around the edge. If you think
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 5: about the play against the Rams in the NFC Championship
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 5: game where Stafford actually got away from him, just kind
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: of slipped through the tackle and got a first down
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: on fourth down, the quickness that he showed on that play,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 5: you know, deep into an NFC championship right at the
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 5: end of the season, shows that's where the maybe the
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: two fifty shows up. He is still a quick player.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 5: He can win off the edge, but he just looks bigger,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 5: doesn't He does look to seventy two, seventy five, And
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 5: in some of these games, particularly when you get into
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 5: the into the playoffs, it is about lining up and
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 5: being more physical in the trenches. The fourteen nineers couldn't
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 5: handle Seattle in Week eighteen or in the playoffs because
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 5: Seattle were just bigger, tougher, stronger in the trenches. And
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 5: you need people like DeMarcus Lawrence to have that. It's
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 5: great having the Abdul Carters and the Micah Parsons's, you know,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 5: the undersize, they're quick, they can create sacks and pressures.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 5: That's great. You need those kind of players as well.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: But if you're going to be a winning team in
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 5: the playoffs, you need people like DeMarcus Lawrence.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: Well, the Seahawks have won the Super Bowl without DeMarcus
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: Lawrence last year.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: No, they wouldn't. And that's something I wrote about. They
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 5: wouldn't have won the Super Bowl with that. I think
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: he and Cooper Cup if you look at the stat sheet,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 5: like he had six sacks, he had I think thirty
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: nine pressures. He's not Miles Garrett, you know, He's not
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 5: twenty three sacks there and seventy pressures or whatever Garrett had.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: But you do need that kind of player. There isn't,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: like you mentioned, an intangible quality to someone like DeMarcus Lawrence.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: The same with Cooper Cup. You know, Jackson Smith and
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 5: Jig Burt got all the yards, got all the touchdowns,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: but Cooper Cup's ability to go to a young receiver
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 5: room and even to speak to Jackson Smith and Jig
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 5: Brins say, look, when I'm having a two thousand yard season,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 5: this is what I do. I'm going to turn up
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: every single day. I'm going to go to OTAs, I'm
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 5: going to look after my body at my age. I'm
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: going to be ultra professional, and I'm going to show
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: Tory hort and how to do this. I'm going to
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 5: show you, know, Elijah roy okman In is a rookie,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 5: how to do this. I'm going to show someone like
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 5: Jackson's within Jigbet how I've done things to have the
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 5: career that I've had. You need those players. The secret
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 5: weapon for Seattle last season was definitely their professionalism and
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: their commitment to we're going to do this as a
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 5: team together and we're going to be serious and business
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 5: like from day one. And when you're watching the clips
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: over and the photos from OTAs this year, and the
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 5: voluntary stuff that the Seahawks did, and you see their
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 5: key players turning up, their big names, their veteran players
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 5: who had told you don't have to be here, and
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 5: they still turn up anyway. That's a difference maker compared
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 5: to some of these other teams where they're flashier, players
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 5: will be sat at home on a couch on a
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 5: b each watching TV, doing something else, maybe even the
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 5: case of Pukua Kou, doing things they shouldn't necessarily be doing.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 5: You know, the Seugs have not got that kind of mindset,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: and you don't have that mindset without a player like
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 5: DeMarcus Lawrence.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: I sure hope you have some mates over there that
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: love American football as much as you do. I just
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: don't want to picture you sitting alone every Sunday by yourself,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: because you can't find in a field of soccer fans
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: enough for American football fans to watch games with. Do
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: you what's the situation?
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: Do you know what it's It's probably the fastest growing
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 5: sport in England, so nothing's ever gonna top soccer, you know,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: football as we call it over here. That's that's always
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: going to be the number one sport. But you then
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 5: got some of the traditional other English sports, your crickets,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 5: your rugbies and stuff like that. I had to say,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 5: they don't market themselves very well and their popularity is waning.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 5: And then you've got the NFL. It's just growing and
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: growing and growing. When I moved back, I used to
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 5: live in Canadas, live in Vancouver, and then I moved
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 5: back here and if I saw an NFL jersey it
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 5: was a surprise. And now I can go to the
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 5: mall down the road from our work here in Sheffield
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 5: and I'll see Seahorks jerseys all the time. I'll see
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 5: Sea Oorks hats. You know, they're a very popular team
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 5: over here because of the Lob success and the success
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 5: I've had recently. They're one of the trendier teams over here.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 5: But you'll see other teams as well. So I have
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 5: got a few mates who follow the NFL. It is
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 5: ever DROI not enough though, which is why I have
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 5: to keep going back to Seattle. So I will be
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 5: in Seattle for Week one against the New England Patriots
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: to see that Banner Rays to go and speak to
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 5: some friends that I have in Seattle, and I kind
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 5: of wish I could wish away the next few months
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 5: to get out there to Seattle again and go and
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 5: see that.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: Well, great stuff. I've heard you a lot and we've
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: just never made the connection. So hopefully this is the
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: first of several conversations we get to have in the future.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: Great to have you on and tremendous breakdown at DeMarcus
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: Lawrence for us here today.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 5: Rob, thanks well, thanks having me on, and a good
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 5: look to the United States the world, cub. I hope
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 5: you finished seconds with England.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate it State and joining us right
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: here on Chuck and Buck. I think that's actually generous,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: you know, because I don't think that we're going to
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: finish second. I think that's Rob. That's that's a really
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: generous wish. Yeah, he's being very kind to Americans. Well,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: probably overachieve it before we finish eleventh, all right, So
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: we appreciate Rob joining us. Of course with BBC Sheffield
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: senior sports journalist there, he does a Seahawks blog, he's
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: been doing it for years. He does television over there
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: as well, and and he also, I don't really think
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: like my British accent now wasn't my best.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: You don't think he liked your British.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: I don't think he did. I think he was just
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: The first one was all right.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: I mean I used to be a voice actor. I
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: can do it. Maybe I didn't have my best fight forwards.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: I don't think the accents were bad. I think he
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: just wondered how many accents am I going to get?
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: He could have got a lot.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: I was done.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: You were You weren't ready to be done.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: I could have kept going. I really could have. All right, Well,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: coming up next on the program, we are going to
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: get back to baseball, because yes it's torn for the
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  Speaker 4: There you go.
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  Speaker 2: I just zipped up my jacket, got rid of my
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: turkey neck T shirt underneath. Now you can't see it now.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: Heley and I are matching. Now we got black matching.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: Hoodie's going on right now.
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  Speaker 6: He doesn't want you to see the stretched out neck
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 6: of his T shirt, right, Yeah, anything, you're gonna shame him.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you might judge me for that. You're always got
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: some bacon neck I did. I had. I had that.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know why I picked that T shirt this morning.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: I tend to put my T shirt over my nose
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: when I'm just like sitting and watching and relaxing. I
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: don't know why. And I put on that same T
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: shirt this morning. So I had a little bacon neck.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I talked like something that my four year
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: old would do.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: A four year old and I a lot of people
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: have thought have been really similar, very similar, and the
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: way we conduct ourselves in life. Ryan Eally joins us
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: here on the program. But now it looks like matching
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: hoodie brothers and I like that. As Ryan was on
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: the call last night and another Mariners win three to
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: two and ten innings over the New York Mets. So
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: they had started this little seven game stretch last Monday,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: but they've not start They've not lost since we last
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: spoke last Tuesday. So what are you seeing different? What's
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: the what's been the little adjustment the way that they're
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: playing that's resorting resulting, I should say, and wins.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: Isn't that nice to say? Yeah, this Mariners team hasn't
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 4: lost in over a week at this point, it's it's
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: a lot of fun to watch. The energy, the confidence
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: is high. It would be easy for me to say, oh,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: it's the home runs or oh it's the pitching staff,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 4: But the pitching staff has been great all year. Yeah,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: the offense been inconsistent, and right now they're answering the call,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: especially when the visiting team puts up runs. I give
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: them so much credit. During the d Back series, anytime
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: the Dback scored, like in the sixth inning in that
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: Friday game, they tied the game, put four up, and
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 4: then Luke Rayley had a home run the bottom half. Like,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: the responses are happening quicker. But the secret sauce for
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 4: me right now, Chuck, is the defense. If you remember
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 4: that that Royal series about ten days ago. Now, they
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 4: were giving away a lot of extra bases and extra outs,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: And when you do that in the major leagues, they're
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 4: gonna get punished at some point because one through nine
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: those guys can do damage for major league kidders. And
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: the Sacramento series, they did a tremendous job and you
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: actually saw it on the flip side. The A's were
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 4: giving away extra bases, and the A's are giving away
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: extra outs and the Mariners capitalized and made them and
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 4: they punished them for that, and then they played really
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: clean baseball to the weekend against the d Backs. The
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: Sunday game, there were a few plays that got away
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: from them. The Corbyn Carrol Hustle double that was a
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: chopper up the middle that he just ran and Julio's face.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: Had a chance to talk with the third base coach,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 4: Carlos Cordozi yesterday about that and I told him was
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: against a baseball fan, you had to appreciate that play.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: He goes a little bit, But there's also ways we
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: can get better on both sides of the ball. They're
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: defensively and offensively. He's like, we got guys in our
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: team that can do that same play. But they didn't
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: let that play be the headline. You know what, by
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: the time the game was over, they were able to respond.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: They were able to find a way, you know, Cole
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 4: Young gets a bunt down and extra innings. It's the
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: little details that are really come together that every single
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: Mariners fan listening right now thought this team was capable of,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: and for the first time in the twenty twenty six season,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: we're seeing it come to light.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Uh, no doubt about it. And you mentioned Cole Young, like,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I don't know if you did
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: growing up or coming up in the system, or whatever
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: the case may be, if you always wanted to hear
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: you had such an incredibly high ceiling. Maybe all athletes
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: want to be described that way. I like my high floor, guys,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: and I I'm not saying that Coole Young doesn't have
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: a high ceiling, but man, does that kid's floor. I mean,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: he just looks like he's just gonna be a special
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: regular for the next ten to fifteen years in Major
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: League Baseball. And we're watching him every game, I feel
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: Ryan get a little bit better at practically everything.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: Did you have any idea how bad his may was?
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: I know that he was slipping like offensively, A little
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: bit like did you did you the numbers?
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: Defense or offensively? I should say, I.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: Don't know if I did see them directly, No, but
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: I knew when.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: I saw them. When I saw them when I came
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: back here, I was like I would have never guessed
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: that he was hitting in the ones for the month
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 4: of May, just because the quality of bat is still consistent.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: And to your point, Chuck, that the floor is very high.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 4: There is still consistencies, there's still productivity even when he's
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: not getting hits or hitting home runs, And a lot
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: of that comes from the defense inside the ball. He
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: is able to save runs and get big outs in
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: those situations that could flip the game on its head immediately.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: He's he's been such a bright spot for this team
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: and I'm excited to see what he does with one
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: hundred and sixty two games, Meaning how many times did
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: he go through that cycle of having a rough May
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: where he does hit in the ones and where is
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: he also able to contribute? But a high school player
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 4: got drafted in the first round, Chuck, do you think
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: he got drafted in the first round because of his
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: bunting ability?
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: No high school period.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 4: Bang in baseball's around the yard in high school. So
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: he had to learn how to bunt in professional baseball.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: And I can almost guarantee you he wasn't doing much
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 4: of it in the minor leagues. And if you think
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: about playoffs from twenty twenty five, how important do those
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: sacrifice buttons buns become Laton games? And if Cole Young
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: is a guy that you can count on in your
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: lineup to get one down. Wow, that is definitely raising
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: the floor for key components to winning World Series that
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 4: this Mariners team was looking for this offseason.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: And I know you're a fan of JP and you're
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: not in any hurry to rush him away. That said,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: Colt and Cole up the mill. I think maybe I've
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: asked you this before. I mean, I'm ready to sign
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: up for that for the next ten years. We've already
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: locked Emerson up for the next nine years. I'm ready
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: to do that with Cole Young. Your response to that
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: and then piggyback wrong word to use. Piggyback?
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: Is that word?
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: The Emerson impact and impression that you've gotten here early
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: in his stint as a major leaguer.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: I would love to see Cole Young get locked up
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: as well. And my guess is if there hasn't been
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: conversations about it, there will be conversations that come. I
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 4: think Brendan donnovan coming back will create some unique formats.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: I believe Colt has anchored himself into being an everyday guy.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: It doesn't mean that, you know, they won't get off
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 4: days between Colt, JP and Cole. I think Brendan will
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 4: be able to give all of them off days when
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: he comes back, and then the dynamic of that of
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 4: how Dan Wilson utilizes his surplus of quality bats and
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: defenders will be really nice to watch. JP Crawford has
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 4: done such a great job of answering the fel ever
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: since he said I'm only go to third base, I
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: feel like he's flipped it into a different gear on
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: both sides of the ball. Offensively, hitting multiple home runs
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: first every career two home run game last week, had
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 4: the big home run in Sacramento as well, the game
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: saving play up the middle, the way that he was
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: able to slide and scoop that ball. I don't think
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: people realize how tough of a play that was. They
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 4: made it look easy. I know the question was how
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: excited am I for this young middle infield ticket together,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: and trust me, I am. But I'm also enjoying the
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: leadership that I'm watching JP Crawford execute right now on
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: a big, big level, and I don't want that to
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: go unnoticed. The presence that he brings in a daily basis,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: the work ethic every day when I go to the
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: yard about two o'clock, you know, four and a half
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 4: hours more game time. Guess who's out there every single
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: day hitting early work JP Crawford. Guess who's out there
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 4: every single day getting his early extra defense, JP Crawford.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 4: He is leading by example in showing this team that
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: I'm willing to do whatever it takes to get to
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 4: where we oltately want to go as a club. And
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: I love that leadership, and I think the young guys
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 4: are really really attaching themselves to it and learning.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: Former Mariner Ryan Healey now on Mariner TV. You've heard
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: him the last couple of series. He's killing it on
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: Mariner's TV as an analyst up in the booth with Aaron.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: And fortunately we got in on the Ryan Heay train
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: early on. We had him last year and he now
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: is a regular with us here every Tuesday to talk
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: some Mariners baseball. All right, let's talk about the piggyback thing.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: Let's actually discuss it, and they're going to go away
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: from it now here for the next couple of turns
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: through the rotation. I'm not sure I would. I mean,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, I realize how many loud, harsh critics are
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: out there about this thing, Ryan, But Luis Castillo's not
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: pitched better all season long. I mean, I think Bryce
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: Miller is one of our top three guys. I don't
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: think I would him specifically in the piggyback, but it's
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: gonna be a hard thing to go away from now
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: because last night was a direct result of piggybacking. All
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: four of those relievers that came in the game looked
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: like as good as they've looked all season long. So wait,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: where's your head at right now with how the piggyback
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: should or shouldn't be used going forward?
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 4: I think that both pitchers have done such a great
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 4: job doing their job. They're performing well. And I was
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 4: laughing a little bit this weekend with Aaron Goldsmith about
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: like we need to think of a new word for
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 4: the piggyback because it has a negative connotation now next
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 4: to it. So I'm gonna I'm gonna call it a
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 4: starter surplus. The Mariners have a starter surplus, And what
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 4: a great problem to have. And more importantly, like if
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 4: you were the Diamondbacks coming in and you had to
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 4: face both of those starters over the weekend, like you're
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 4: not looking forward to that. There are no breaks, there
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 4: are no gaps in that game, and the last Castillo
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 4: comes out of the bullpen throwing ninety seven ninety eight
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 4: mile an hour sinkers with a nasty slider, and then
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 4: he's the guy that you got to face in the
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 4: ten dinning because you end up going to extra innings
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: and we're sitting there like, I wonderful see Louise come
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 4: out at the ten dinning, and sure sure enough he did,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 4: and he got out of a big spot. It was
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 4: unbelievable to see. Do you understand why they're going to
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: the six man though? Right with how the scheduling is,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 4: I think they have sixteen games in seventeen days, So
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: like just the travel, the wear and tear that happens
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 4: to these guys, it does make sense to be able
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 4: to stretch out some of those guys a little bit,
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 4: allow Luis embrace the opportunity to push past that five
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 4: inning mark that we've seen them both kind of cap
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 4: at and see I would love to see what Bryce
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 4: Miller looks like in the sixth, seventh, and maybe even
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: eighth inning, with how good he's been, I think that'd
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 4: be really exciting. No matter what Louis does, I think
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 4: the trend that he's on is really positive. The bullpen
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: being fully healthy allows some more opportunity there. How fun
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 4: does it have to be, though, to be Dan Wilson
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 4: right now and making decisions in high leverage games where
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: the it's late and it's close with the score and
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 4: he has every single arm healthy and available to him.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 4: How fun is that to lot?
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: Well? I mean, and look, I think Dan sometimes struggles
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: with these That's just my own personal view of it.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: I've never done it myself, so I've never you know,
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: obviously been there making these decisions. He's pitching decisions. But
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: I said in the offseason, said a last year, said
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: it this year. Last year when he was just managing
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: to win ball games and didn't have to worry about
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: all the stuff the early season rest and who can
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: go and how many guys pitched. Yesterday when he was
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: just managing to win ball games, he did really well,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: and we went on a run and won the division
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: and nearly made it to the World Series. And so
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: the piggyback kind of gives you that day off where
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: it allows you to I get to use whoever I want,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: whenever I want to use them. And the biggest reason
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: we won last night, Cole Jung was the star individual player.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: Emerson was terrific. Josh Naylor had a clutch hit, but
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: four no hit innings from the bullpen, and they all
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: looked fresh as could be. I think that was the
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: reason for the win last night.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 4: I agree with you. And Friday was the first game
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 4: where that was fully deployed and you saw Kirby brash
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 4: for rare, bizarre doo spy er munhos and then Kriswell
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 4: came into tenth like that was unbelievable usage. And I
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 4: thought an aggressive decision early in the game. And George
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 4: Kirby didn't look tremendous, he didn't look like his normal self,
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: but to go out there and get him, I believe
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 4: it was in the sixth inning when he pulled him.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 4: I think George ended up going about five and a
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: third maybe, and then he went out there and got
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 4: brashed and things went a little bit south in that inning.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: You know, the Dbacs offense came in really hot, but
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 4: overall this team was able to silence, you know, really
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: quality team. And I don't know if fans saw this,
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: but the Dbacks went home played the Dodgers in one last.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 5: Night, four to one.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's not like they just all of a
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 4: Sudden became a terrible team in Seattle. No, the Parriders'
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: pitching staff shut them down. They kept to Telmarte Qui.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 4: They kept Corbyn Carroll fairly quiet as well, apart from
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 4: a couple of hits here and there. But they did
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 4: such a great job and to have access those weapons.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 4: And I think to your point, Chuck, what you just
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 4: touched on was really important. The time of year really matters.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 4: When was Dan Wilson making those I'm only here making
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 4: decisions to win games. What time of year was.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: That late in the season.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so if you want to be able to
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: make those decisions late in the year, you have to
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: have your pitchers healthy and fresh. Have you ever seen
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 4: Gave Spire throw the baseball as well as he is
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 4: right now? I mean, yes, go back to last year,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: but this season. No, he threw three fastballs right by
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 4: Corbyn Carroll on Friday night, and like they pitched around
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 4: Marty to get to Corbyn and then Corbyn comes up
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 4: Golden and I are like, uh this, like, how do
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 4: you walk Marte to get to Corby and Carroll? Because
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 4: he got Katee Spire and then guess what pitch gave
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: spire through the three to two counts. The best hitter
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 4: in Major League Baseball last night, one Soto fastball on
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 4: the outside count. He went right after him.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 4: I was floored at that because it would have and
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 4: so easy to get cautious and careful in that situation
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 4: to pitch around a very dangerous back. The gauge's fire
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 4: has so much conviction and stuff that boom here it
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 4: is hit it or don't, It doesn't matter. But yes,
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: it seems like the first six weeks of the season
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 4: that's when the manager has to be more cautious with
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: this decision. But not going back to back, it's not
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 4: stretching guys out. And now as they're getting closer to summer,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 4: Dan Wilson can make more of those winning decisions, and
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 4: credit to the starting surplus that they have, they're able
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 4: to give the bullpen a complete day off and it's
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 4: really been working out nicely.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: We're gonna send that past test audiences to see if
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: they like starting surplus.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: We're gonna see how that, Yeah, are being pulled, right?
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: Are they being pulled right now?
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 4: Good? They're gonna they're gonna hate it.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: Well, they don't like piggyback, that's for sure. Ryan Haley
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: is with us. You know, obviously when you're winning, everything
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: feels good around there. But you know, you did get
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: cal Raley back in the clubhouse this week, you were
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: around that. How much does that really matter or to
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: get you know, that big of a central figure on
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: your baseball club, even though he's not playing and he's
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: probably still a couple of weeks from playing. How much
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: does it matter to a clubhouse to see your guy
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: come back through the doors a ton.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: I'm sitting in the dugout yesterday with Rick Riz and
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, this large figure walks by and
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: he's got the mask on, so you have no idea
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 4: it's calf and then he pulls the mask up and
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 4: he pulls a fist out. He goes, hey, Ryan, how
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 4: are you. It's like, oh my gosh, that's Kyle Rowley.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 4: Can you sign this for me please? Like they just
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 4: kind of came out of nowhere, Like he's got this
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 4: big smile on his base and he just got was
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: able to catch a bullpen and just I know for him,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 4: like if you've heard any of his interviews that he's
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 4: done pregame, he's talked about the difference of appreciation and
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 4: respect that he has for this team and how talented
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 4: this team is, and when you're in the thick of it,
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 4: especially if you're struggling the player, it's hard to not
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 4: be looking at a mirror constantly about how bad you're struggling.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 4: So for Cal to be taken out of this live roster,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 4: in the live lineup and have a different perspective on things,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 4: I hope that really helps him when he comes back
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 4: to say, this team is already really good and I
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 4: don't have to hit sixty home runs a contribute. I
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: can just do my thing and really help in different ways.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 4: And I think he's he's seeing this. He's seeing baseball
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 4: through a different lens right now than he ever has been.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 4: But to your original question, Chuck, having a player like
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 4: that in your locker room, whether he's playing or not,
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 4: is a game changer. It's the leader, it's the consistent voice,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 4: it's a consistent attitude every single day that he brings.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 4: He is even Stevens in that locker room. You can
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 4: ask anyone around there. So his presence being around is
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 4: tremendous for this club.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: We didn't lose Josh Naylor for any time did we
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, what's a backspasm do to a baseball player?
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 4: It definitely doesn't feel great. The timing of it was
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 4: was funky. I know we saw the conversation between Dan
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 4: Wilson and him, and it sounded like Dan made the
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 4: ultimate decision because I know Josh was gonna say, hey,
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 4: coach me out of this game, like that's not how
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 4: players function. It can come and go pretty quickly. I'm
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 4: eager to see if he'll be in the lineup tonight,
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 4: But even if he's not, I think a couple of
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 4: days of treatment can really help that. The backspasms are
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 4: kind of a normal thing for baseball players. It just
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 4: depends on what spot of the back it is. Is
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 4: it more muscle, is it more you know, bone? And
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 4: from there, if he can maybe not rotate for one day,
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 4: like hey, take today completely opt on swing the back.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 4: We'll get some treatment and then they'll see how you
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 4: feel tomorrow. Something like that could really turn things around
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: within a forty eight hour window.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: Should he should players steal third more? I mean it
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: seems like it's easier to steal third. Randy Roserena got
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: there early. I mean they did him some favors by
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: doing the two pickoff moves, so he knew they weren't
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: going to do a third two.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 4: Non competitive pickoff moves too.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they just handed him third base, which that's stupid,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: but I mean, it just feels like teams are having
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: so much trouble, like moving a runner to third in
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: that situation. Would you try it once? I mean you
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: can't with everybody, but you know, a real's arena, even
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: a Josh Naylor, they seem to just steal third more
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: easily than they do second base.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 4: It takes some ball knowledge to be honest, and understanding
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 4: the game and understanding the pitcher's time and the looks.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of prep work that goes into that
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 4: that I know, you know, e y Eric Young Junior
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 4: does a great job of helping making sure these guys
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 4: have the right information available to make those aggressive decisions.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 4: But there's also like a catch twenty two to a chuck,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 4: like what's the goal on rule baseball? You don't make
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 4: the first or the last out of third base or
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 4: home right, So if you're gonna steal third base, you
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 4: better be one hundred and ten percent that you're gonna
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 4: be safe. And that takes a couple pitches to get
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 4: the looks down to see what the timing is of
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 4: the pitcher's leg. But you won't really see a pitchers
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 4: mixing slides steps the runner on second base. So if
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 4: it's if it's a higher leg kick, longer arm from
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 4: a pitcher, then they know they're gonna have about a
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 4: second and a half. And it gets above one point
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 4: five seconds, then that's plenty of time for the runner
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 4: deal to get there.
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  Speaker 2: Uh well, I am going to come to the game tomorrow,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: so uh you're you're going through this series? Correct?
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 4: Yes, sir?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, and then when's your next one?
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 4: Uh end of or middle end of August. I'll come
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 4: back up for that. And then September.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's too long. That's too long without Ryan Healy
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: on the call of a Mariner's baseball game, I'll talk to.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 4: Some Yeah, I picked all my own games, definitely one.
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  Speaker 2: So throwing your weight around already, are you?
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I'll light some fires. So when
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: I'm there at the ballpark, because obviously you want to
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: talk about weight, I was gonna.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: Say it a fight over who has more pole over there.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: Who's got two thumbs and a lot of weight with
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: the Mariners this.
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  Speaker 4: I'll be hiding in the boot tomorrow while you're while
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 4: you're currently raising a store.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: Poor Ryan's in the corner like he doesn't speak for me.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 4: I just want to be friends.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 5: Friends.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: You see back?
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: Can you see me going in there just throwing a fit?
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: You should be on more games.
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  Speaker 1: I'm fine with August.
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  Speaker 2: I'm happy to be here.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know him.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, look, John, I've had enough. All right, man, Well
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  Speaker 2: we'll be listening tonight. I'll see you tomorrow. Thank you
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: very much, appreciate you.
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  Speaker 4: Yn't wait. Have a gret day, guys.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: All right, Ryan a late joining us right here on
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: Chuck and Buck in the morning. So he does not
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: represent me, all right? Coming up next? Oh wait a minute, coming.
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  Speaker 1: Up now, Yeah, we got to do it.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: We got a guess what do we have. We've got
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: a Seahawks extension.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 6: Oh, the Seahawks have reached a three year agreement, three year,
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 6: forty two million dollar agreement with Derek Hall, who we
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 6: were just talking about with Rob Stayton as somebody that
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 6: could be important when DeMarcus Lawrence decides to hang it up.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: Interesting, I did see that flash, and I never and
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: I was too busy and I couldn't, like, couldn't look
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: at it to the bottom of him. Gosh, you know
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: what I'm gonna hate about. This is what I'm gonna hate. Okay,
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: you're gonna have for the next two hours. Smart ass
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: rams fans, both of them, you know, going, Oh, nice counter.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: That'll make up for us getting Garrett.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's definitely not the counter. But I'm glad that
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 6: they locked him up. I like Derek Hall a lot, all.
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  Speaker 2: Right, coming up next, Chris Daniels, so will join us.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to ask him about Derek Hall.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 6: That's why I figured we had to get it in
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 6: right now, because otherwise it was gonna that's a little difficult.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: Derek Hall, with his new finances, wants to be an investor,
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: a minority investor in the Sonics.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: He might want to be.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: He actually might want to be. We'll talk to Chris
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: Daniels about that next Sports Radio ninety three point three
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I think Chris Daniels needs to just start charging a fee. Like,
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I know how to feel about
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: something until I hear from him.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're keeping him very busy, you know what I mean. Yeah, No,
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: I get that. It's like, oh, like, just for example,
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: they were just talking about the weather. It's gonna be
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: eighty degrees. How should we feel about that? And then
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: tomorrow's seventy with possible showers? I don't know.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: Well, let's ask Chris Daniels. Yeah. No, I think I've
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: got a pretty good handle on how I feel about
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: the weather. I don't know at this stage of my life.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: But whenever it comes to something like Sonics related, I'm like, Okay,
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: I read the story, but what is Chris think that's fair? Yeah,
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: So joining us now on the program is Chris Daniels
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: to tell us what to think about the news yesterday.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: He is, of course with Como News and has been
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: following the Sonics leaving and trying to return to Seattle
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: for years. Yesterday we learned that billionaire and filling philanthropist Gosh.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: I shouldn't struggle with that. That's an easy word. Melinda
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: French Gates joined the Seattle crack and ownership group, fueling
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: speculation about NBA expansion bid at the exact same time
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 2: that a tweet from Chris Daniels who joins us here
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: on the program. How are you, sir? Good?
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  Speaker 3: Philanthropy is a big word. It doesn't always roll off
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  Speaker 3: the to.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I just got caught in the middle of
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: it because, you know, because you can go philanthropy but
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: then philanthropic and then so I got caught in between
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: the two different pronunciations of it and screwed it. Ups
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: are tough, right exactly? Maybe I put the wrong emphasis
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: on the wrong salable. You're right, all right? So what
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: does this mean then, Chris? When I read this headline
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: of yours, how am I supposed to feel about it?
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  Speaker 3: I think it was a low key but big move.
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  Speaker 3: And in the first announcement you know that through ESPN
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 3: and through Emily Kaplan was she's investing in the Seattle kracking.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 3: But when you dig a little deeper, she's not just
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 3: investing in the Seattle crack, and she's investing in the
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 3: Umbrella Organization One Roof which controls now, climate Pledge Arena,
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 3: the construction of Memorial Stadium, the One Roof Foundation, the
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: Cachella Valley Firebirds, Aftercure Arena. She's buying into that, and
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 3: that is the group that's being put together to bring
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 3: back the Sonics and make a bid on an NBA
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  Speaker 3: expansion team, and all you have to do is one
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: Google search to know how much Melinda Frenchgates is worth
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 3: thirty billion dollars. And she gives this group instant credibility.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: The questions if they do make that bid and she
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 3: is part of that bid, those questions about the financial
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 3: wherewithal of the group go away, we'll see who else
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 3: is also part.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: Of the group.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 3: But as they go out and get other investors and
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 3: put the cross the t's and dot the i's on
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 3: their financial package that they're going to be to the NBA.
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  Speaker 3: She is an extremely, extremely credible person, not only in
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 3: the United States and North America, but globally around the world.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 3: Instant credibility. And I think also everything that she had
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: to say through the Seattle Krakens social media channels yesterday
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 3: talked about community and civic engagement. It's what she's been
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 3: about for the last thirty years. She's from here, grew
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 3: up within Microsoft, and I think it matches what Samantha
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 3: Holloway and the rest of that organization have preached thus
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 3: far since they started in twenty twenty one, and everything
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 3: that they're involved in now, I just instant credibility and
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 3: instant financial wherewithal to get this across the finish line
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 3: by the end of the year with the NBA.
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  Speaker 2: Did we know that she was a sports fan?
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 3: No, And I think that the Gates name has been
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 3: tossed around with all the professional sports franchises over time
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 3: because of the success of micro Soft and the thought
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 3: that either Mackenzie Scott or Melinda French Gates could be
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 3: interested was you know, a lot of people dismissed it.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 3: Clearly Samantha and her team had been working on this
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 3: for a while. The timing here should not be lost
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 3: on anybody either, right before the NBA Finals, in the
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 3: NHL Stanley Cup Finals that this is getting announced. They
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 3: did something similar months ago with the announcement that Samantha
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 3: had bought the controlling interests of the arena and started
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 3: one roof right before the NBA Board of Governors meeting.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 3: So the timing here should not be lost. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this is the first she said She's never
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 3: invested in sports before, but because of what she has
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 3: seen with sports and I'm paraphrasing what she said on
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 3: their social media channels, because of the power of sports
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 3: and bringing community together and what it can do for
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 3: young people and what the Kraken have already done in
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 3: places like Northgate and Kirkland. That is why she's getting involved.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 2: Chris Daniels is whether senior porter COMO News and of
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: course as our go to guy everywhere for sonics news,
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: and we had some yesterday with Melinda French Gates getting
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: involved in As you mentioned, she has so much money.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, is she just a piece to get you
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: across the finish line or is there a chance here, Chris,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: that she might want to be the majority owner. I mean,
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: she's got that kind of cash.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's a great question. I don't think
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 3: I've had a straight answer on that yet about what
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 3: her level of interest may be. You know, I think
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 3: I told you the last time I was on your air.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 3: In some ways, I'm trying to will it into existence
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 3: that Mackenzie Scott gets involved. Her name was whispered quite
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 3: a bit around the Portland Trailblazers before they were sold
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 3: to Tom Dundan by reputable reporters down in Portland who
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 3: clearly were having her name whispered in their ear as
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 3: a potential buyer boy Oh boy. Mackenzie Scott and Melinda
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 3: French Gates have teamed up on the the new park
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 3: down on the Seattle Waterfront that will open later this week,
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 3: Centennial Park and Myrtle Edwards. That's been a two year
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 3: long renovation. They put their private money into that as
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 3: part of a public private partnership. So I've had my
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 3: eye on McKenzie somehow getting involved at a certain point too,
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 3: whether it's with the Seahawks or with this organization, because
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 3: that both McKenzie and Melinda are here in the community
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 3: and if you're trying to sell this sell potentially a
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 3: new franchise to the community as well, that does matter.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 3: We saw what happened when the Sonics left and who
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 3: they were purchased by. But boy, if you had Samantha
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 3: and Melinda and say a McKenzie involved, that is I
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 3: think the best case scenario for everyone involved. And again
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 3: that's a little bit of me willing it into existence.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 3: But there is a story shaping up right now where
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 3: I think there could be a great story to tell,
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 3: not only for potential ownership group in Seattle, but also
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 3: for an ownership group to go to the NBA and
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 3: say we want to be the new owners of the Sonics.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: And all female, all female own.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 3: Would you, which I think would also be a heck
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 3: of a heck of a story to you know, round
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 3: it out after twenty years, after everything the community went through,
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 3: to have civically minded, community focused owners in charge of
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 3: a new franchise who have the financial wherewithal where you're
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 3: not going to have to worry about it out of
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 3: the gate. I mean, again, this is a little bit
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 3: of me talking here versus what they're saying, but I
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 3: think it could be, you know, for the NBA too,
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 3: that story would be a heck of a story to
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 3: latch onto.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: I think, no doubt, no doubt. All right, So what's next?
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: What has to happen from here?
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 3: Well, I think there's a potential that this comes up
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 3: either with Gary Bettman for Game one or with Adam
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 3: Silver before Game one. There's an NBA Board of Governors meeting.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of people know at this point
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: in July, and there's not an expectation that the NBA
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 3: is going to make some sort of final decision at
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 3: that meeting. Adam Silver has already indicated that when meeting
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 3: with reporters a month or so ago, So we're looking
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 3: to potentially September October for that NBA Board of Governors meeting,
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 3: or even through the end of the year. I mean,
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 3: Adam Silver has said it's going to be done at
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 3: some point this year one way or the other, and
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 3: so I kind of zero in on an early fall.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 3: But I remind everybody the NBA last expansion with the
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 3: Charlotte Hornets in December of two for an four start,
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 3: So that's not out of the realm of possibility. But
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 3: the bottom line is, if the NBA is going to
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 3: do this, they want to have a couple of year
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 3: head start for actually launching the franchise to get everything
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 3: in order.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: If I were to try and express my confidence that
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: the Sonics were coming back, would you recommend that I
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 2: just get a custom made keychain or do you think
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: that I should just go and take my vehicle and
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: just go custom Sonics green and yellow with Sonics twenty
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: seven on the license plate or maybe even emblazon along
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: the side. What should be my confidence level right now?
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: What should I purchase?
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't get a car with twenty seven, maybe
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 3: twenty eight, Okay, I'd start with the keychain, start with
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 3: the keychain. Get the keychain first, then see the early fall,
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 3: how the tea leaves are going, and who these other
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 3: investors are. Keep in mind, I think this was a
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 3: low key strategic move from the folks over at kCi
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 3: without without listing all their names and the people they
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 3: have lined up. They don't They've said it over and over.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 3: We don't want to get ahead of the commissioner. They're
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 3: still waiting to hear from the financial firms that have
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 3: been hired by the NBA to solicit at the bids.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 3: So they are they're taking a very cautious approach to
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 3: what they are publicizing. But having Melinda French Gates also
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 3: in the group, if there's another group, and I keep
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 3: hearing whispers there's another group, and Adam Silver said he
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 3: expects multiple bids if there's another group that's trying to
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 3: put together their money as well, having Milinda French Gates
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 3: in the other camp may scare you off, knowing that
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 3: what she stands for the community and knowing the financial
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 3: wherewithal that she brings to a potential ownership group.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: You are the man. Thank you very much, sir. We
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: will bug you soon, I'm sure.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 3: Always great to talk and good luck with the Salabils.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, thank you. I'm going to need that.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: Chris Daniels joining us right here on Chuck and Buck,
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: Senior reporter at Como News. You can follow Chris and
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: you need to be at Chris Daniels Underscore TV, Big
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: TV star, that guy big, just the best, big, you know,
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: big knowledge in that Hea wats and yeah, and so
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: we we lean on him pretty heavily for this stuff
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: and we appreciate him joining us here today. Coming up next,
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: one last thing to close out our Tuesday show on
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety three point three kh A r f
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