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NFL Week 4 REACTION: 49ers stay undefeated, Seahawks bounce back, Chiefs-Raiders & Bills-Patriots · The Richard Sherman Podcast

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Richard Sherman podcast and what another great
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: day of football in week four. A lot of long
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: field goals, long field goal attempts, some big plays, some upsets,
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  Speaker 1: just great all around football. Mitchell, how you feeling?
• 0:23
  Speaker 2: Richard, I'm feeling good for you because the Seattle Seahawks
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: get back on track after a disappointing week out east
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  Speaker 2: against the Washington Commanders. Take care of business today against
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  Speaker 2: the Chargers. Then you go a little further south, the
• 0:37
  Speaker 2: San Francisco 49ers in a big matchup against the Denver Broncos. Richard,
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  Speaker 2: defensive battle in that first half. Your boy, your MVP,
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  Speaker 2: Brock Purdy, gets it done again. Big game. Let's start
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  Speaker 2: right there. San Francisco hosting the Denver Broncos. A matchup
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  Speaker 2: that I think went under the radar because these are
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  Speaker 2: two teams we could see in February, Richard. They both
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: have great defenses. It was a shame to see Patrick
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: Sertan go out there in the second half. But Richard,
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  Speaker 2: I'm curious to see when are the 49ers going to lose, man?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, is it next week against Seattle? The matchup
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  Speaker 2: everyone in America has been waiting for. This team, 4-0.
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  Speaker 2: off to a recklessly hot start. Your thoughts, my friend?
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  Speaker 1: Well, Mitchell, I don't know. Those are questions I don't
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  Speaker 1: like to ask because I don't want the answer to them. Mitchell,
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  Speaker 1: right now, they are going to ride the train. And
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  Speaker 1: despite all the injuries and losing Kyle Hughes' check today,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it looked like a hyperextension. You hope that
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  Speaker 1: it didn't get his meniscus or anything like that. But
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  Speaker 1: Brock Purdy continues to play well. Wasn't a perfect game today.
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  Speaker 1: He was relatively efficient, 19-30, 2-18, two touchdowns, no interceptions.
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  Speaker 1: He did some things with his legs, kept himself out
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  Speaker 1: of trouble. But again, the huge story here is the
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  Speaker 1: offensive line, who still has yet to give up a sack. Again,
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  Speaker 1: came into the season, I was questioning, along with quite
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  Speaker 1: a bit of the 49ers faithful, why this hasn't been addressed,
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  Speaker 1: why this offensive line, especially the interior, has not been
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  Speaker 1: addressed through the draft or free agency. There were people
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  Speaker 1: available that we thought could help this team, but they
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  Speaker 1: didn't address it. I guess they addressed it in some ways,
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  Speaker 1: but overall, they went with the unit that they've gone with,
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  Speaker 1: at least four of the five, and it's worked out
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  Speaker 1: incredibly well. They have protected Brock Purdy, and when Brock
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  Speaker 1: Purdy has been pressured, he's gotten the ball off, he's
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  Speaker 1: gotten out of harm's way, or he's just made a play.
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  Speaker 1: In this game, it was everybody. Christian McCaffrey, 15 carries
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  Speaker 1: for 52 yards and a touchdown. Got 18 yards through
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  Speaker 1: the air on three catches. Deebo Samuels got a touchdown
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  Speaker 1: through the air and had some really cool runs on
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  Speaker 1: the ground. Mike Evans tough through a rib injury. Had
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  Speaker 1: some cool plays. I thought he was going to get
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  Speaker 1: in the end zone early in the game on a
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  Speaker 1: corner route it looked like, but got tripped up by
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  Speaker 1: a friend of the program, Talanoa Hufanga, the former All-Pro
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  Speaker 1: 49er safety who is now with the Denver Broncos and
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  Speaker 1: having a fantastic season. Eddie Pinero, one of two on
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  Speaker 1: the field goals, three of three in extra points. Kalon Black,
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  Speaker 1: only six carries for 13 yards. Again, that ground game.
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  Speaker 1: This is a great defense, so I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: take anything away from them, but we watched what Kenneth
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  Speaker 1: Walker did to this defense early in the season and
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  Speaker 1: how he dominated and destroyed this defense, so they can
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  Speaker 1: be run on. Now, as the season progresses, teams, they
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: game plan, they get in better shape, they figure things out,
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  Speaker 1: so Um, there's, there's something to be said there, but
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  Speaker 1: I think the San Francisco 49ers defense, this was a
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  Speaker 1: defensive battle early in the game. Denver was winning three
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  Speaker 1: to nothing. And then the San Francisco 49ers tied up
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  Speaker 1: to three to three. And then we get going, we
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  Speaker 1: get going and we start to figure out who this
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  Speaker 1: team is. Uh, they finally get a touchdown to Debo Samuel.
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  Speaker 1: And then the touchdown to George Kittle, the touchdown to
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  Speaker 1: George Kittle was such a cool play. at the perfect time.
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  Speaker 1: They ran a double A-gap blitz, single man-to-man, everybody's man
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  Speaker 1: across the board, nobody in the middle of the field.
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  Speaker 1: Kittle catches the ball, accelerates, and you talk about a
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  Speaker 1: guy coming off a major injury last season, and he looked,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he looked very limber right there, Mitchell. He
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  Speaker 1: looked very, very, very nimble. Jack be nimble, Jack be quick,
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  Speaker 1: and he was out of there. 56-yard touchdown. This team
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  Speaker 1: is going to be incredibly difficult to beat late in
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  Speaker 1: the season if they can find a way, just find
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  Speaker 1: a way to get relatively healthy. I mean, they're putting–
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  Speaker 1: I saw Cooks get some reps out there. They're putting
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  Speaker 1: anybody in there regardless because they know, hey, as long
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  Speaker 1: as you know your assignment, we can get it done.
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  Speaker 1: And I hear all these fan bases complaining, man, our
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  Speaker 1: receivers are hurt. That's why our quarterback isn't playing well.
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  Speaker 1: All our receivers are hurt. It's one quarterback who's not
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  Speaker 1: complaining about his receivers being hurt. He's lost– One, two,
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  Speaker 1: three receivers already this season. They're on to receiver five, six,
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  Speaker 1: maybe even seven at this point. And this offense just
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  Speaker 1: continues to be productive. 24 points in this game against
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  Speaker 1: a defense that can play at a really high level. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: Denver has some questions to answer. Davis Webb. Davis Webb,
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  Speaker 1: the new play caller for the Denver Broncos. Sean Payton
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  Speaker 1: gave the play calling duties over to him. And the
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  Speaker 1: results have been a mixed bag. In this game, you see...
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  Speaker 1: Bo Nix struggled. 42 attempts, only 214 yards, one touchdown,
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  Speaker 1: 80.9 passer rating. J.K. Dobbins, 11 carries for 40 yards.
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  Speaker 2: R.J.
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  Speaker 1: Harvey, he looked like he did more than this. He
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  Speaker 1: had 10 receptions for 68 yards on the ground, but
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  Speaker 1: he only had seven carries for 25 yards. Again, this defense,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't get a sack. But again, they played aggressively.
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  Speaker 1: They played fast. They put pressure on them. They made
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  Speaker 1: them uncomfortable. They played tight coverage in the back end.
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  Speaker 1: They tackled well for the most part. Obviously, it's not
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  Speaker 1: a perfect game. They have yet to play a perfect game.
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  Speaker 1: There are very few perfect games out there. But in
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  Speaker 1: terms of what you expected from the San Francisco 49ers
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  Speaker 1: defense and the question marks that you had and I
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  Speaker 1: had and everybody had for them coming into this season,
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  Speaker 1: They have exceeded expectations, and Raheem Morris deserves a ton
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  Speaker 1: of credit for what he's been able to get out
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  Speaker 1: of this group, and they're only going to get healthier.
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  Speaker 1: They're only going to get guys back. Think about when
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  Speaker 1: they get Nicholas John Bosa back, when Mikael Williams, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Mikael comes back. He's going to be a big part
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  Speaker 1: of this. And as they continue to get healthier, and again,
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  Speaker 1: there are guys out there, the Buccaneers are now 0-4.
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  Speaker 1: So Vida Vail, Vida Vail's from down the street, Mitchell.
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  Speaker 1: He was born six miles away. from the stadium, from
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  Speaker 1: Levi's Stadium. So if I'm John Lynch, I'm calling Tampa
• 6:47
  Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers and saying, hey, he was disgruntled before. You
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  Speaker 1: guys weren't sellers. You're 0-4 right now. Are you sellers
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  Speaker 1: or not? What is the price? And if the price
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  Speaker 1: isn't above a third rounder, then I think you got
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  Speaker 1: to make that move. Even if it's just a one-season rental,
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  Speaker 1: I think you got to make that move and try
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  Speaker 1: to get this team better, especially against a run. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it only strengthens your team. He's one of the best.
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  Speaker 1: defensive tackles in the National Football League, but the Denver Broncos, man,
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  Speaker 1: I feel terrible for this defense. They lost Patrick Sertan.
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  Speaker 1: They lost Riley Moss. They're two starting corners in the
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  Speaker 1: same game. I think Riley Moss had a rib injury.
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  Speaker 1: Patrick Sertan had a non-contact, maybe calf, but you know
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  Speaker 1: those calves, man. They sneak into that Achilles area, so
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  Speaker 1: you keep your fingers crossed that it's not anything more
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  Speaker 1: serious or it doesn't lead to anything more serious, but
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  Speaker 1: They've got to find some explosiveness on offense, and they've
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  Speaker 1: got to find a way to stop waiting until the
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  Speaker 1: fourth quarter to wake up. This team, and Sean Payton
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  Speaker 1: has said that on multiple occasions, they shouldn't have to
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  Speaker 1: wait until the fourth quarter to learn how to play
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  Speaker 1: football and to be explosive and to get yards and
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  Speaker 1: to score points. I think that's true. Against good teams,
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  Speaker 1: and the San Francisco 49ers are a really good team.
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  Speaker 1: They're number one in our power rankings. They're number one
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  Speaker 1: in my power rankings. Mitchell, your Buffalo Bills, I think
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: you had. Just went down to the New England Patriots today.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right about that. You're right about that. Richard,
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  Speaker 2: I'll say this too about the Broncos. You know, they got,
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  Speaker 2: from a name standpoint, a good wide receiving core. Cortland
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  Speaker 2: Sutton paired next to Jalen Waddell. 41 combined yards today
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  Speaker 2: from that duo. It's unacceptable. It's not like Bo Nix
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  Speaker 2: does not have weapons. He does. What he's doing with
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  Speaker 2: those weapons is that question. Denver 2-2 to start the season.
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  Speaker 2: Below expectations here. But I tell you what, Richard, the 49ers,
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  Speaker 2: what they did today to me proved they're going to
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  Speaker 2: be a force in the NFC. Anyone with questions, and
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  Speaker 2: I was one of those coming into the season, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that they beat the Rams. Yeah, that built an excuse
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  Speaker 2: from the Rams. Oh, we had to travel the day before. Well,
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  Speaker 2: you chose to travel the day before. Oh, we didn't
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  Speaker 2: have Aaron Donald. You know, the DN was out, right? So...
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  Speaker 2: You look at that, and then they play the Dolphins
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  Speaker 2: and then ultimately struggle against Arizona. Now you're welcoming one
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  Speaker 2: of the top five teams in the AFC to your home,
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  Speaker 2: and you take care of business by 10 points. Richard,
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  Speaker 2: San Francisco and this 49ers team is going to be
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  Speaker 2: number one in my power ranks this week. I will
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  Speaker 2: join forces with you, my friend. They have convinced me
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  Speaker 2: as such. Let's talk about another team in this NFC West,
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: this vaunted NFC West, the Seattle Seahawks, Richard. They suffer
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: a loss against the Commanders, against Marcus Mariota and the Commanders.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people starting to wonder, hey, us included,
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  Speaker 2: what's going on with their running game? You see Kenneth
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  Speaker 2: Walker running wild in Kansas City, and you just think, hey,
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: what if? What if we would have paid K-9 instead
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  Speaker 2: of Rashid Shahid? Well, Richard, they might have found their man.
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  Speaker 2: Emmanuel Wilson totes the rock 21 times for 81 yards
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  Speaker 2: and a touchdown, has three receptions for 39 and another.
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  Speaker 2: Did they find their guy? today, Richard, in Emmanuel Wilson
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  Speaker 2: at running back?
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  Speaker 1: They definitely found something. They found some success, and that's
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  Speaker 1: what you're looking for. And they found some success. And
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: mix it up. Put Rasheed Shaheed back there and found
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  Speaker 1: some success. And I think that's going to be the case.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be by a committee. They're going to
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: have to keep trying things, experimenting until they find what works.
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: Charbonnet practiced this week, and that's a big deal going
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  Speaker 1: forward for this team. That's a guy they feel like
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: they can lean on, a guy they have high expectations from.
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  Speaker 1: So if he can come in and continue that and
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: them also know they have a guy like Emmanuel Wilson
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  Speaker 1: in the fold that could come and kind of spell
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: Charbonnet until he gets fully acclimated into the football season.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, this is, this was a much better showing.
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  Speaker 1: They averaged 4.2, a carry 33 carries for 138 yards
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  Speaker 1: and two touchdowns. One from Rashid Shaheed on that 28
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  Speaker 1: yard scamper, uh, where he looked incredibly explosive. It looks
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: like a punt return where he weaved his way to
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  Speaker 1: the end zone. This team looked fantastic. And early on
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: in this game, this game started off back and forth.
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: And I know that the LA charger fans, Hey guys, Hey,
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: Probably need to stay off my pod. Like, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: the guy. I'm not the guy. Ball knower here.
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  Speaker 2: Ball knower.
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  Speaker 1: So not the guy to talk about. We've been talking
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  Speaker 1: about this Justin Herbert thing for a number of years,
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: and it's always somebody else's fault. It's always the scheme
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  Speaker 1: or the offensive coordinator. It was Greg Roman. Now it's
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: Mike McDaniels taking the bullets. And it's always somebody else,
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: and it's never Justin Herbert. And I understand that. There
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: are other people that made mistakes in this game. The
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: offensive line has struggled. The defense has had its struggles.
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: But some of these interceptions– This is first play of
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  Speaker 1: the game. First play of the game. He throws it
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  Speaker 1: to the other team. Mitchell, it wasn't pressure on his face.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't him taking a ton of hits. It was
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  Speaker 1: a mistake. And when you make mistakes like that, you
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: make it hard for people to defend you. And you
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: make it hard for people to justify what the future
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: is going to look like in LA. And I know
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: this is a mixed bag. You can have whatever opinion
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  Speaker 1: you want for the LA Chargers, what they should do.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't think you get rid of Mike McDaniel
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  Speaker 1: this quickly. People remember... He was part of the offensive
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: staff that took Jimmy G to a Super Bowl. Jimmy
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: G went to a Super Bowl with Mike McDaniel. The
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  Speaker 1: offense works. He made Tua Tungabailoa look like a very
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  Speaker 1: competent quarterback, helped him earn a $ 50 million per year contract.
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: Let me be, hold on one second, because I want
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: to get this number right. I want to get this
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: number right. I want to tell you what he did. Because, Mitchell,
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  Speaker 1: I get tired of these conversations where people say what
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: they want to say and say what they need to say.
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  Speaker 1: In 2023, Mitchell, Tuatunga-Vailoa, 4,600 yards, 29 touchdowns, 14 interceptions.
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  Speaker 1: That was probably his best year. The next year, he
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  Speaker 1: had 19 touchdowns, 7 interceptions, 2,800 yards, but he only
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: played 11 games. In 2025, he only played 14 games,
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: didn't have a great season, 20 touchdowns, 15 interceptions, 2,600 yards. But...
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  Speaker 1: When you tell, when I've heard this constant rhetoric from
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  Speaker 1: Chargers and from people who really can appreciate, man, give
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  Speaker 1: Justin Herbert an offensive coordinator like Kyle Shanahan. Give him
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: somebody like Sean McVay. Well, they just did that, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they understood what this offense entails and
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  Speaker 1: what it takes to play quarterback in this offense, and
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  Speaker 1: it's not that easy. And it's been cool because I
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: got to watch Kyler Murray, and I wondered how Kyler
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  Speaker 1: Murray would do in Kevin O'Connell's offense because there are
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  Speaker 1: similarities there. and he has to throw it in really
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  Speaker 1: tight windows, and you've got to trust it, and you've
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  Speaker 1: got to throw it to openings, and you've got to
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  Speaker 1: layer it over guys, and he's not the tallest quarterback
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  Speaker 1: in the world. And obviously, there's a learning curve there,
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: but you can see Kyler Murray in this last game
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  Speaker 1: against the Dolphins, and I know people are going to say, oh,
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: it's the Dolphins. You can see him layering throws. You
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  Speaker 1: can see him throwing the spots on the field, trusting
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  Speaker 1: the read, trusting that the defense, trusting that, hey, this
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  Speaker 1: is the play that was called. This is the expectation.
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  Speaker 1: This is where I'm supposed to put the ball. My
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  Speaker 1: guy's going to be there, and that's what it takes
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  Speaker 1: to run this offense. Now, Justin Herbert, again, had some
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: phenomenal moments in this game. There was a fourth and
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  Speaker 1: seven near the end of the game where he threw
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  Speaker 1: it to QJ, and it looked great. It was a
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: great big arm throw. Like, my God, spectacular play, but
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  Speaker 1: they were already down in the game, and he had
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: already thrown two interceptions and had a really tough game.
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  Speaker 1: And he got beat up in this game. He made
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  Speaker 1: bad decisions. He held the ball longer than he needed to. So,
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  Speaker 1: You wonder what they're going to do. Is it time
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: for him to have a new scenery, or do you
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: get rid of Jim Harbaugh? Like, what do you do there?
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  Speaker 1: But on the other side, the Seattle Seahawks look fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: They needed to bounce back after that game, that commander's game.
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  Speaker 1: They needed to play well. Sam Darnold started this game
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  Speaker 1: not much better than Justin Herbert. He threw an interception.
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  Speaker 1: I think they said it's the first time in history
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: that both quarterbacks threw an interception to start the game.
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  Speaker 1: But he got it together. He figured it out. He
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: started to find his rhythm. 13 for 22, only 168
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  Speaker 1: yards and two touchdowns. But, again, he got it done.
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  Speaker 1: He got the ball to Jackson Smith and Jigba. He
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: got the ball where it needed to be on the field.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't have a whole lot of success, but he
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: didn't put the ball in harm's way. This was one
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: of those games that you just needed to get out
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  Speaker 1: of there with a win. You just need to keep
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: getting your legs under you, keep the crowd into it,
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  Speaker 1: keep doing your things until you were able to get
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: out of there with a win, and that's what he did.
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  Speaker 1: Like you said, Emmanuel Wilson had a great game. The
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: defense was what really– Broke this game open. Multiple interceptions
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  Speaker 1: in this game. And obviously having Julian Love back was great.
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  Speaker 1: But Drake Thomas with the first interception of the game
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  Speaker 1: on a great play. They just played good football at
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: the end of the day. They just played good football.
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  Speaker 1: Uchenna Nwosu made the strip sack at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the game to end it. He's a former Charger. That
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: was a cool moment for him. But there's so much
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: depth on his defensive line. It hasn't gone... like they
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: wanted in every game. But I think this is, again,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: death by a thousand cuts. This team is going to
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: keep chopping wood. This team is going to keep showing up.
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  Speaker 1: This team is going to keep progressing, and it's going
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: to come together. You're going to look up at the
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: end of the season, and they're going to either be
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: the one or two seed, and everything is going to
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  Speaker 1: go through them. And that's the way it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be them in San Francisco. That's why I'm looking forward
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: to that game next week between Seattle and San Francisco. Mitchell,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: we knew when the season started this was going to
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: be a huge game, and nothing's changed.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: This one's it, Richard. I want to get back to
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: this Justin Herbert conversation, though, because you brought up Jim Harbaugh.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: It dawned on me, Jim Harbaugh has been viewed as
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: this QB whisperer ever since the Colin Kaepernick days with
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: the 49ers. And I don't know how much of his
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: credit is truly deserved. I mean, Colin Kaepernick, obviously, out
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: of Nevada, under Jim Harbaugh, rose to stardom, great quarterback.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: But since then, I mean, what are we talking about here, man? Yeah,
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: you go to U of M. We saw what happened
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: with J.J. McCarthy. Looks like a failed experiment in the NFL.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Now we go to the L.A. Chargers. And under Brandon Staley,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: I think it's fair to say Justin Herbert looked like
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: a star on the rise in this league. Statistically, he
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: was airing the ball over the field. He elevated a
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: lot of the receivers around him. But for some Quinton Johnston,
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: dropped big passes downfield. his stats could have been a
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: lot higher than what they are. That being said, when
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: you look at Jim Harbaugh and his introduction into this team, Richard,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I've seen nothing but regression. I don't know if he's
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: gun-shy or what, but when you look at the tape
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: from Justin Herbert from two years ago versus last year
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: and now this year, it's almost like you see a different,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: more reluctant quarterback behind center. And I wonder how much
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: it has to do with Jim Harbaugh, the one that
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: is pulling the strings behind the scenes today. Richard, you
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: played under Jim Harbaugh. What are your thoughts here? Do
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: you think it's a coaching issue with Herbert?
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: It could be, but at the end of the day,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: coaches coach, players play, and cheerleaders cheer. At the end
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: of the day, you're out on the field, you make
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: the decisions, you pull the trigger or don't pull the trigger,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: you throw these passes, you make those decisions, and if
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: you're saying the plays aren't good enough, the tape will
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: say that. But if you're throwing into double and triple coverage,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: if you're throwing the ball too low straight to linebackers,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: it's hard to put that on the coaches. You throw
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: interception to Drake Thomas' first play of the game where
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: the receivers, it looks like six, seven yards behind the linebacker.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: It's hard to defend that. It's hard to put that
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: on Jim Harbaugh. So I don't know how much of
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: it's on Jim Harbaugh. Obviously, there's been some regression, but
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know what else, what do you think is
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: the right decision in this situation, Mitchell? Do you fire
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh and Mike McDaniel and say, oh man, it's
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: not Justin Herbert, fire them and bring somebody else in.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: But then when it doesn't work again, when you keep
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: doing the same thing and you keep getting the same results,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: when do you start to stop avoiding pointing the finger
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: somewhere and just say, hey, maybe he is great. Maybe
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: he is an incredible top five talent in the National
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Football League. And maybe it cannot work out here. Maybe
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: that's the truth of the matter. Maybe it cannot work
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: in L.A. for some reason. And you need to build
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: around somebody else. You need to build the team a
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: different way because you have tried for seven years. And
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: they are looking 0-5 right in the face. What are
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: you going to do? What are you going to do?
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Your next game is the Denver Broncos coming off a
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: tough loss. Motivated team.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: This season they need a factory reset on it because
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: this could not be going any worse for the chargers
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: i mean the houston texans and the la chargers stories
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: of the nfl for the reason you don't want to
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: be in them and that's just horrendous starts uh these
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: are two teams that a lot of folks were picking
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: as dark horses to make the super bowl so you
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: look at it in the afc and i just got
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: to believe justin Herbert. If you opened him up on
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: the open market, I would venture to guess two-thirds of
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: the league would have their hand in the air. They
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: want him as their starting quarterback. I think it's a
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: schematic issue with them in L.A., and hopefully this plays
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: out because I think he's a tremendous talent. Richard, let's
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: talk about the Kansas City Chiefs. in the Las Vegas Raiders.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: This game came down to the wire in Vegas, and
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: you know what? If anything, it's a bummer the Raiders
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: lost because they put up a heck of a fight,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: and it certainly looked like they could have won that game.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: If anything, this proves the Las Vegas Raiders are for real.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: They are a different team this year under Clint Kubiak,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: and you see the talent surrounding Kirk Cousins. I mean,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: These guys that have had relative unknown careers, the Cody
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Whites of the world, coupled with the superstars of Brock
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Bowers and the rising star in Ashton Gentry. This Raiders
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: team has all the weapons there, and then you look
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: at the free agent additions they did defensively. They're a
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: different team this year, but credit to the Kansas City Chiefs.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: This is a team coming into the season with a
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: lot of questions around the health of Patrick Mahomes, and
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: I think he's put that story to bed thus far.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: And then again, Kenneth Walker III, Richard. I'm going to
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: hammer this every single week. 177 yards on the ground. Unbelievable.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: 177 yards on the ground. Three total touchdowns in the game.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Just an impact player. Mitchell, there was a point in
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: this game where he scored a touchdown. The Raiders fumbled
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: and he scored another touchdown. I think only 20 or
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: so seconds that went off the actual game clock. I mean,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: two touchdowns in 20 seconds. Mitchell, the guy was unbelievable today.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: And Patrick Mahomes was good, and Taequann Thornton was good,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: and he suffered a lower extremity injury, and you hope
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: that he's okay and it's nothing major. But if you
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: look at this team, if you look at Patrick Mahomes
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: in this game, it's not up to the standard that
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: we hold Patrick Mahomes to. But the reason they're still
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: able to win against a Raiders team that just kept fighting,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: just kept fighting. Again, Kirk Cousins with Clint Kubiak. Seems
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: like a match made in heaven. He continues to be productive.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: He was 31 of 52, 52 pass attempts, 365 yards,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: two touchdowns, was not sacked once. Under pressure, under duress,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: a lot, but not sacked one time. Ashton Gentry, 15
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: for 58, but he was finding a way to get
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: his big time tight end, Brock Bowers involved, Michael Mayer involved.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Both guys had over 80 yards receiving. Obviously, Bowers had
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: the touchdown, but for the Chiefs, they need to find
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: who's going to be the most consistent. And I thought
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: that Taequann Thornton was starting to figure it out. They
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: attacked my guy, Hezekiah Masses. What are you starting to
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: understand in this league is, hey, if you say you
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: can get the football and you're aggressive, they'll take your
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: aggression and use it against you. And they attacked him
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: at times in this game. He did not back down.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: He continued to fight. He continued to scrap. He continued
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: to battle. I thought that Max Crosby continued to battle.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: It was fun to see him, but I'm sure he's disappointed.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: and the defense giving up 30 points in this game. Obviously,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: that fumble was critical in this game. The team was
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: in good position until that fumble, but Kenneth Walker is
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the MVP of this team right now, MVP of the
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs, and probably number two in the MVP
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: race of the National Football League with how he's playing.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: They do not win these games without him. They are
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: not 4-0 without Kenneth Walker III, and I think... I think...
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: They understand that. I think Andy Reid understands that. I
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: think Patrick Mahomes understands that. And it takes so much
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: pressure off Patrick Mahomes and him having to be such
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: a magician, such a superstar, so superhuman every single week. Hey,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: if he's just good enough, you got a guy back
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: there that can make it happen. And if you're great
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: and the Patrick Mahomes that everybody remembers that's won multiple
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: MVPs and Super Bowl MVPs, then this team is close
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: to unbeatable. But This takes so much pressure off of
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: him that it allows him to play more free, in
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: my opinion. And on the other side, the Las Vegas Raiders,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: give them a ton of credit. This team, this is
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: the team that picked number one in the draft last season,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: and they're coming out. They could easily be 4-0. A
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: few more bounces their way, and they win this game.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: They showed that they belong in this conversation. They belong
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: with the Kansas City Chiefs and the Buffalo Bills and
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: teams like that. They're a good team. Um, and they
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: should not be overlooked in any way that it's unfortunate
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: result in this game. They did not win it, but
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: they showed that they can play. They can go toe
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: to toe with the Kansas city chiefs or anybody else
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: for that matter. Um, their defense, again, some plays that
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: you want to have back. That's what happens on defense.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: You learn, you live and you learn, you're playing some
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: young guys, but they were putting a lot of pressure
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: on Patrick Mahomes, uh, in this offense throughout this game.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: They sacked him twice. Um, And I think Raiders fans
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: are really excited and they should be excited for the future.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: They got a good coach in Clint Kubiak. You always
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: wonder how these coordinators, how it translates to being a
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: head coach. And I think so far so good for him.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing how they continue this season.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: They got a game against the New England Patriots. I mean,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: this game, this season is so like topsy-turvy. I don't
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: know how to call that game. I'm not even going
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: to think about it right now.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: It's wild, and the Raiders are a team that's tough
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: not to root for. I mean, they've been through a
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: lot recently. They're in a cool city in Las Vegas,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: and they've got a bunch of rising stars on their team.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, Brock Bowers, the way he's playing right now,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: and Kirk Cousins, again, Michigan State Spartan. Cody White, I
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: love to see it in the Raiders. Maybe I'm standing
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: alone on that island, Richard. Maybe it's the Michigan State
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: and me talking, but I like the Raiders.
• 25:44
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• 25:52
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• 25:55
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• 25:57
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• 26:04
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• 26:12
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• 27:53
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• 27:57
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• 28:00
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• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I'm not talking about the six foot three, you know, guy,
• 28:06
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• 28:15
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• 28:17
  Speaker 2: as a cornerback in the league?
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Well, you got to go with a guy like Champ Bailey,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: a guy who played great coverage, just an incredible athlete,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: played both sides in college at Georgia. A guy that
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: can make plays, In the air, over 50 interceptions in
• 28:33
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• 28:37
  Speaker 1: incredibly athletic, but also incredibly cerebral player. He's a Hall
• 28:43
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• 28:45
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• 28:48
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  Speaker 2: And we saw a wild one in Philly. I know, Richard,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: the NFC West fan base all wanted to see Philly
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: come out on top in this one. Philly led 20-10
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: at half, looked like they were in control. And then
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford leaned on Ole Reliable, Puka Nakua. Richard, what
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: happened in this game? How did Philly blow it?
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Philly blew it the same way they almost always blow it.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: They've had games this season where they struggled offensively, especially
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: in the third quarter. In the second half, they're one
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: of the worst second half offenses in the National Football League.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: And Jalen Hurts struggled mightily in this game. He only
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: had 88 yards passing, or 93 yards passing on 27 attempts.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: That's abysmal. Obviously, they lost Saquon Barkley early in the
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: game to a hamstring injury, but they went And I
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: want to get this right, Mitchell, because this was a struggle.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: They went 0-for-12 on third down. 0-for-12. That's the story
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: of the game. Their defense battled against a really good
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Rams offense. Matthew Stafford, you know, wasn't as sharp as
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: he usually is. Missed some throws, threw two interceptions, won
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: the Cooper-Dejean. There was some questionable officiating. There was a
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: pass interference call on Trent McDuffie late. in the second half,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: right before the half, that allowed Philly to set up
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: their second score to Cooper, and the first score to Cooper,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I thought was going to get intercepted. Quentin Lake was
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: right there, but he was backing up into the end zone.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's probably going to be one of the
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: highlights of this week. The pass tips off his hands,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: into Cooper's hands, highlight touchdown. The second pass was much easier.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Cooper was wide open in the end zone, touchdown there,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: but I'm not sure they should have even been there
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: because of the penalty call. McDuffie was kind of phantom.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: McDuffie's hand kind of got caught in the jersey or something,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: in Dontavian Wicks' jersey. As they were running, they're both
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: looking for the ball. I thought it was a no call,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: but they gave it to Philly, and that's what allowed
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: them to have the 10-point first half lead. In the
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: second half, they did not score a point. They did
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: not score one point. And, I mean, the Rams battled
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: after missing– A 40-yard field goal in the first half.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: You know, they were trying to battle. They were finding
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: their rhythm in the fourth quarter. When they need to
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: have it, Puka Nakua showed up in a big way.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Kyron Williams showed up in a big way. Stafford on
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: the last drive. He's the guy you want with the
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: ball in his hands and playmakers all around the field.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Stafford pushed the ball down the field. Had a 32-yard
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: deep shot to Puka Nakua earlier in the quarter. But he...
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: He's the reason they were able to win this game.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: When they needed to have it, he was really good.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: He ended the game 32 of 51 for 316, but
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: no touchdown passes. Puka Nakua, 9 for 125, but Kyron Williams,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: his 16 carries for 80 yards, just a constant force,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: 10 catches for 66 yards. He continued to kind of
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: steady the ship throughout the game and keep hope alive
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: for them, and I just, I really, if you're Philadelphia,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: I don't have really great answers for you. You know,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: your quarterback didn't play well. Your superstar running back is injured.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Your defense battled, kept you in the game, but your
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: superstar corner, Quinion Mitchell, is out now with an injury.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Cooper Dejean went out throughout the game. He kind of
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: got banged up in this game. And if you're watching
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: this offense, you really, I mean, outside of the quarterback,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: and I know Philadelphia fans don't want to hear that.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: You don't want to hear negative criticism to the quarterback,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: but he did not play well. And It's not all
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts' fault, but after so many offensive coordinators, after
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: so many changes offensively, and trying to continue to find
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: a way to tailor this offense to Jalen Hurts, I
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: know he's won a Super Bowl. I know he's gone
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: to another Super Bowl. He has had playoff success. He
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: is a great player, but we have to admit he
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: is struggling right now. He is struggling, and for whatever
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: the case may be, for whatever reasons, Maybe you say
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have the playmaking on the outside. Maybe he
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: doesn't have a great enough run game. Maybe the offensive
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: line isn't playing well. This was one of his worst games.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: This is one of his worst games. He was unproductive.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: He just looked like he didn't have any answers. Looked
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: skittish in the pocket. I thought Philly was still going
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: to find a way to win this game because of
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: the way their defense was playing. But I mean, after
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: a while, a defense wears down. A defense wears down,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: and a quarterback like Matthew Stafford is going to find
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: a way, and he did. They won this game. I
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: had the Rams winning this game before the game started.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: I didn't know it would be in this fashion, Mitchell.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Richard, it's wild to see. I mean, the Philadelphia Eagles,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: they're 2-2 on the season, but they could easily be 0-4.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, they struggled against Washington in the opener. They
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: narrowly escaped the Tennessee Titans team that's been abysmal all season.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: And then they got absolutely boat raced by the Chicago Bears.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: And then this game, up 20-10 at the half, up
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: 20-10 at the end of the third quarter. Sean McVay
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: huddles his offense on the sideline and has what looks
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: like a pretty impactful conversation with them. Richard, what do
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: you think McVay was telling his offense in that moment,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: seeing their struggles leading up to that point?
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: We only need one drive. We need one drive. This
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: is a drive we have to have. It doesn't matter
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: how the rest of the game went. We need this one.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: We need to be great right now. And I'm sure
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: some version of that is what he told his offense.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure Matthew Stafford kept his offense calm and said, hey,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: we're in control right now. We can win this game.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: We just, hey, just trust me. Keep me safe. Keep
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: me protected. Receivers catch the football. Kyron run it well.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: And let's get out of here with a win. And
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: that's why you saw him ecstatic, jumping for joy on
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: the sideline. Because it's great when your team battles all day.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: They're down the whole game. And then they respond the
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: last drive of the fourth quarter. You come away with
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: a win. And you're looking one and three in the
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: eye before then. You're looking one and three in the face.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: With the trip to, with the trip, with the game
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: against the Buffalo Bills coming up in the next week. So,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, get one and three. With Buffalo on the schedule,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: that's not where you want to be. And so I'm
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: sure Sean McVay is incredibly ecstatic this week. They got
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: a chance to go into this game with some momentum,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: with some confidence, a great last drive. Puka Nakua worked
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: himself back into the lineup. Matthew Stafford gained some confidence
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: and momentum on that last drive, and I think they
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: feel really good.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: And as for Philly, they travel to Jacksonville, a team
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: that's red hot as well. They could be off to
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: a 2-3 start here, Richard. That's something to keep our
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: eyes on. I didn't see Philly struggling this much. I
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: expected them to struggle without A.J. Brown, but this much,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: this is a bit of a surprise this early in
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: the season. Let's take it to another thriller. The Houston Texans,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: in desperate need of a win after starting 0-3 on
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: the season, got off to a really hot start against
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys. Nico Collins was involved early. They jumped
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: out to a 16-6 lead. We're getting crafty offensively, and
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: it looked like the C.J. Stroud of old. And then
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: this vaunted defense that we've been hailing all offseason Struggles.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Kamari Lassiter with two big holding penalties. And C.D.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Lamb.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, you want to talk about a day. This
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: is the definition of a day. 17 receptions for 100
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: and however many yards. 189 yards, Richard, and a touchdown.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, when Dallas gets these weapons involved, this offense
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: can become very tough to stop. How did the Cowboys
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: come out with a win this game, trailing early in
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: this one, Richard?
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: This was a dogfight. They struggled. Both teams kind of
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: struggled a little bit offensively in the first half, but
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: the second half they figured it out. Dallas comes out
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: in the second half, scores on their first possession. Javante Williams,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: 19 carries for only 62 yards, but three touchdowns on
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: the day. He was critical in the red zone. He
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: was a guy making sure that they left the red
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: zone with seven points each and every time. Brandon Aubrey.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: I won't even say he struggled. They attempted two 60-plus
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: yard field goals, one 65-yarder that he missed and another
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: 62-yarder that got tipped at the line of scrimmage. He
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: made a 50-yarder. I don't know what's going on in
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: the NFL anymore. I mean, 60-yarders used to be, I mean,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: not even thought of. For a team to attempt two
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: of them in the same game is just, I mean,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: it's blowing my mind right now. And there were multiple 60-yarders,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: 60-plus yarders attempted in other games and made. I think
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: there was a 64-yarder in the Baltimore game. There was
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: a 60-yarder in the Arizona game. It's just the game
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: is changing, obviously. But you got to give a lot
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: of credit to C.D. Lamb and Dak Prescott for just
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: staying the course. When taking what the defense could give them,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: obviously this Houston Texans defense isn't playing as well as
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: they've played in previous years. And Kamari Lassiter, and I knew,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I can't say I knew because you can't predict anything
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: in the National Football League. But I was concerned that
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: after that play in Buffalo, when he got that, when
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: he dropped that interception, Mitchell, it's been downhill since then.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: He dropped the interception that could have sealed the game
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: and beat the Buffalo Bills. I mean, theoretically, there was
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: still time left on the clock, but that would have
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: been a critical play. And then gave up the touchdown
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: the next play, Mitchell, it's a downward spiral, and It
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: looks like the Dallas Cowboys studied that tape. They attacked
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: him early and often in the red zone, in the
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: end zone, multiple penalties on third down. You know, the
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: defense gets stops. They're in the right position. He gets
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: a holding call on two third downs from inside the five.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: That's tough to recover from. He battled his butt off,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: gave up a long pass to to George Pickens on
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: a post route where he probably should have just came
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: over and batted. It looked like he tried to make
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: the catch, ended up catching George Pickens. C.D. Lamb kind
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: of attacked him throughout the day, whether it was short
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: or long passes. And I think sometimes that gets your confidence,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: and that was a big part of that. I mean,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: not that C.D. Lamb didn't attack everybody, and their whole
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: secondary kind of had a rough day. um the defense
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: you know will anderson and daniel hunter they got some
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: pressure they had some sacks in the game they had
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: three sacks on the day uh total but again it's
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: just not looking the way it did before and they're
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: owing for to start the season they've been in just
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: about all of these games but almost isn't good enough
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: in this national football league And they started the season
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: last year 0-3. They start this season 0-4. You're putting
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: yourself in a hole that, I mean, it takes a
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: miracle to dig yourself out of. And thankfully, they were
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: able to do it last year. I'm not sure they're
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: going to be able to repeat that. C.J. Shroud actually
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: played a really good game. I don't think this one
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: is on C.J. Shroud. I think Nico Collins is starting
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: to look like his old self. You know, he spread
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: the ball around. They were explosive offensively. David Montgomery. There
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: was a play, third and 14, late in this game
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: when Houston went up and took the lead 30-27 where
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: I thought that was the game. I thought Houston had
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: won that game. A hook and ladder. The same one
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan and San Francisco 49ers ran earlier this last week.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: On third and 14, critical play. Tight end catches it,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: pitches it to David Montgomery. He gets the first down.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: They score on the next play. I thought that sealed
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: the game. Honestly, I'm sure everybody on that sideline felt like, hey,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: that won them the game. But Dak Prescott drove these
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: boys down the field, connected with CeeDee Lamb in the
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: end zone for his first touchdown of the game. 17
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: catches on 21 targets. It's just incredible. You got to
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: give them a lot of credit. Dallas Cowboys. Have Tampa
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers next. I think that's a game they can win.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: They're playing an undrafted rookie quarterback. It doesn't look like
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield will be back anytime soon. The Houston Texans
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: play the Tennessee Titans, who actually battled against the Baltimore Ravens.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: They lost that game 24-18, but they put up a fight.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: And the Houston Texans 0-4. I mean, you can only
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: go up from here, but wow.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Wow, just wow.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Is this the biggest shocker for you of the season
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: thus far, this 0-4 start by Houston?
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, this is the biggest shock by far. And I
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: think we were worried that maybe C.J. Stroud had lost
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: his magic. Maybe he wouldn't come back the same after
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: he struggled in that playoff game against the New England Patriots.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: He threw those four interceptions. He looked just discombobulated. We wondered, hey,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: how would he respond this season? I think he's responded well.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: we kind of assumed and presumed that this defense would
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: show up in the way that they've always shown up.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: They had the same all pros. Derek Stingley, Kamari Lassiter,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Kalen Bullock. Like, they have the guys. They added Reed Blankenship.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: You thought, hey man, this is a team that could
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: be one of the best defenses in the National Football
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: League once again. And if their offense, Nico Collins and
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: his playmakers play like they did, David Montgomery, their run game,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: kind of wake up. They could be one of the
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: top teams in the AFC, but Looking at 0-4, I mean,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine there's anything but tremendous disappointment and concern.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: And you've got to look at the defensive side for
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of those struggles. Obviously, the offense hasn't been perfect.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: They've had their games where they struggled, but this wasn't
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: one of them.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Buffalo, Richard. The Red Hot Buffalo Bills
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: are hosting the sputtering New England Patriots. It looked like
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: they had a bit of a Super Bowl hangover to
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: start this season. Enter week four, this team was eyeing
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: one and three to start the season. They pull off
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: a big win, and I'm going to call it an
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: upset because it is one. A big win on the
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: road against division rival the Buffalo Bills. Drake May got
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: them started early, but again, the turnovers are a big
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: deal here. Throwing an interception, losing a fumble. But Drake
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: May ultimately rose to the occasion and got Romeo Dobbs
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: involved for two touchdowns. How impressed are you with New
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: England's ability to rally and overcome this tough 1-2 start
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: and take care of business on the road in Buffalo today?
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: This game, I expected Drake May to play better. You
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: hoped that Drake May would turn it around, but you
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: definitely didn't expect him to go in and beat Buffalo
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: in the way that they did. They held Josh Allen
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: in check majority of this game. I don't know what's
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: going on with Josh Allen. It just doesn't seem he's
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: more hesitant to take off and run. He's not running
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: as often as he would before. He only carried the
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: ball five times for four yards in this game. And
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: it just seems like even when there's a lane there
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: and you expect Josh Allen to run, he's not taking off.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if there's injury. I don't know
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: if there's been a conversation with Joe Brady about just
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: taking care of your body and just getting through the season.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: But you can clearly see it when he's out there.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Plays where you would expect Josh Allen to say, hey,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Pull it down and run. He's trying to get the
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: ball out, whether it's complete or not. James Cook had
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: a solid game. Only 12 carries in this game, which
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: was kind of concerning because he was having success on
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: the ground. 75 yards, one touchdown. But Drake May. Drake
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: May started this game and fumbled the ball. The pocket
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: collapsed around him. And you start to think, ah, another
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: bad Drake May game. Like, the saga continues. They're going
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: to keep beating him up about this. Then... The Patriots defense,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: they're battling. They take the ball from Buffalo near the
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: end of the half. And you're like, okay, Drake May
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: got a chance to get some momentum, drive down the field,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: maybe get some points before the half. Then he throws
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: it to Romeo Dobbs, off his hands, into the air.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Buffalo picks it off, and they get the field goal
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: before half. And that was a microcosm of how this
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: game would go. Back and forth and back and forth
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: and back and forth the whole game, Mitchell. The finish
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: was wild. Buffalo took a 26-21 lead on Josh Allen's
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: 34-yard strike to Keion Coleman in the back of the
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: end zone. And you thought, hey, that's it. Buffalo's closed
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: the door. They're going to go for two. Kind of
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: solidify this. They missed the two-point conversion. And then you're like, okay,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: New England has a chance. But can Drake May, with
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: how he's played all season, really drive this team down
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: the field and get a touchdown? And Drake May did it.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: He played well this whole game, even with the turnovers.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: He played well. He took the yards that were there
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: with his legs. He was accurate with a lot of
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: his passes through the air. He had two turnovers in
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: the game, but you would argue the interception could have
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: been a complete pass. Romeo Dobbs made up for his
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: dropped pass that led to an interception with a touchdown
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: in the game, but They were 3-for-3 in the red zone,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: and that's the reason they won this game. Drake May,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: when they needed to have it, when they had to
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: have it, made enough plays and got them down the
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: field and scored. And scored a touchdown and got the
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: two-point conversion. And again, in a play where he could
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: have used his legs, things were kind of chaotic on
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: that play on the two-point conversion. Turned around, hit the
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: running back in the flats for the two-point conversion. There
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: were so many plays and so many little things he
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: did throughout the game that were so impressive. where you're like, okay,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: that's the guy who was second in the MVP voting
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: last year. That's the guy who was an All-Pro last year.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: And maybe New England can find some solace and some
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: peace in that maybe he just had a rough start.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Maybe he just had a rough start to the season.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: And he is the guy that they think he is.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: Let's go back to Buffalo here real quick, Richard. The
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: first two weeks of the season, they just looked absolutely dominant,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: especially offensively. And then these last two weeks, they look beatable.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: And obviously they got beat this week, but they should
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: have lost last week as well. The Chargers turned them
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: over five times and really blew the game that they
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: easily could have won. With all that being said, what
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: do you think has changed over these last two weeks
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: to affect them offensively? Because they just don't look like
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: the same team.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it has to do with
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen not using his legs as often. I think
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: without that threat, and the defenses are starting to see
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: it on tape, they have to be seeing what I'm seeing,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: that he will not take off. That takes away a
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: lot of your stress of what Josh Allen can do.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: If you can leave guys in the coverage, you can
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: play man-to-man coverage because you're not expecting Josh Allen to
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: take off with the football. That changes the way you
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: play him. That changes the way you guard this team.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: And I obviously have said this in the past, I
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: don't think their defense is good enough. I think that's
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: going to be the thing That takes this team down.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: I think that's going to be their Achilles heel. Their
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: defense is not good enough to win a Super Bowl
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: as they're currently constructed. And I think that's what happened
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: late in the game. Their corners are getting attacked no
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: matter who it is. Obviously, they're without Benford. But even
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: when Benford was playing, they were attacking him. So it's
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: not like, hey, they got these world beaters on the
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: outside that can get it done. And that's what ends
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: up being the difference in these games. when Josh Allen
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: can't just take over, when Josh Allen can't just save
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: the day. And he had the ball with almost two
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: minutes to go and a chance to win the game.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: He threw an interception. You know, you got to also
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: acknowledge that. Josh Allen had a chance to win, but
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: it can't just keep being, hey, let's just survive, survive, survive,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: give Josh the ball with two minutes to go and
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: expect him to win the game. Like, it has to
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: be a team effort. It has to be a complete effort.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: And with the defense, they're going to have to carry
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: their weight and they're going to have to I talked
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: about this when we had their game in Buffalo, like
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: they have to get that last stop. They have to
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: give them at least one stop. And when he needed
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: them to get a stop, when he needed them to
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: stop Drake May in this offense to win the game,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: when he gave them a lead, they couldn't get it done.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: And that is the story of the game.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen could have had a chance to win it.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: He could have drove down the field and, and, and,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Hero balled another win for the Buffalo Bills, but that's
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: not a sustainable way to win football games. That's not
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: a sustainable way to win a Super Bowl. You got
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: to have balance. You got to have both sides clicking,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: and when a defense can't get a stop when you
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: need it, it's going to be hard.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: Let's go on to Cincinnati. Boy, was I wrong. And
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: I apologize, man. I had this team earmarked as a
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: surprise story of the season. And after starting 2-0, Cincinnati
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: looked to be proving me right. But since then, they've
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: been 0-2, even things out to 500. And the Jacksonville
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Jaguars continue to scorch onwards. This team looks like a
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: team that could absolutely contend in the AFC. They go
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: on the road, take care of business against the Bengals, 22-17.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: All of that with Joe Burrow. Richard, if I were
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: to tell you that Joe Burrow would have 287 passing
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: yards in the second half, and they lose this game.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's wild to me that this team that was,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: we said it all leading up to the season, their
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: defense has to improve. Their defense has to improve. Well,
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: here they are. Their defense did improve. It only gave
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: up 22 points to a Jaguars team that's been pretty
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: hot offensively, and yet Joe Burrow, and this Bengals offense
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: cannot get things done. We saw Jamar Chase go out
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: with the injury, but T. Higgins is still there. Richard,
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: how does this happen with Cincinnati? How did they have
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: this good of a statistical offensive game but only put
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: up 17 points?
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Mitchell, they went two for four in the red zone.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: That's an issue, but they lost Jamar Chase early in
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: this game to a concussion. and on a play where
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: they pulled his face mask, you thought, oh man, they're
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: going to get a first down, and then he took
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: a major hit, hit his head against the ground, and
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: that was a big change. Obviously, Jamar Chase is the
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: biggest part of their offense. T. Higgins still had some success.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: He had 11 for 157, no touchdowns, but the two
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: turnovers that he had, this Jacksonville Jaguars defense is really
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: good at taking the football away. They're incredibly opportunistic, and
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: they were in this game. Jordan Lewis had one on
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: a tip Joe Burrow pass. It looked like somebody hit
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: his arm while he was throwing it, and Jordan Lewis
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: was in the right place at the right time. Our guy, Oluokun.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Oluokun always shows up, Mitchell. You're going to keep hearing
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: his name because he's the linchpin in this defense. He's
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: the guy that takes it over when they need to play,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: when they need to turn over, when they need a sack.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: But that front line, our guy, Eric Armstead, Friend of
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: the program, Mitchell. Friend of the program. Had a sack
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: in this game. I thought he had a sack and
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: a half, but it looked like they didn't give him
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: the other piece of that sack. But their defensive line
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: was putting pressure on Joe Burrow, but Joe Burrow was
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: incredibly productive. But you got to finish. You got to finish, Mitchell.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Some of those were empty yards. This game really didn't
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: have to be as close as it was. The Jacksonville
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Jaguars were beating themselves in this game. Ten penalties missing.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: in the first half. Two touchdowns called back. Two touchdowns
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: called back in this game. Tootin had a, I want
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: to say, 30, 40-yard run that was called back on
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: a Cam Little holding call that, I mean, it was obvious.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: It was obvious. It was a real penalty. I can't
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: say they're getting cheated or these are bad calls, but
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: it was just undisciplined. This game didn't have to be
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: as close as it was, and obviously once Jamar Chase
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: went out, the Jacksonville Jaguars offense actually played solid besides
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: the penalties, besides the penalties, with those penalties, those are
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: the things that held them back from really breaking this
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: game open. Trevor Lawrence played really well. Brenton Strange came
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: through in clutch moments. He fumbled a ball. He fumbled
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: a ball trying to hurdle somebody, Mitchell. It's going to
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: be a highlight play of what not to do in
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: the National Football League. The ball pops out. I think
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: it was Jacoby Myers punches it out of bounds because
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: it was bouncing around. It looks like the Cincinnati Bengals
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: were about to have a huge play to turn this
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: game around, but he was able to punch it out.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: A really smart play by him. But you got to
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: give this team credit. They're finding ways to win. Their
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: big-time players are showing up in big-time moments. I like
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: the way Travis Hunter played in this game. I don't
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: know who said he would be an all-pro DB in
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: the National Football League, Mitchell. I don't know who said it.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know who said, just let him play DB.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: because he has all the skills, he has all the measurables,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: everything you need to be a really great DB in
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: the National Football League. And this game, he was tight
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: in coverage. I mean, he laid big hits on people.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: They called a hitch, Mitchell, and I just saw him
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: drop his shoulder, and I was like, okay, he's been
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: in the weight room. He must have added five to
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: ten pounds, because he was very light in the ass
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: when he came out of Colorado, Mitchell. And so you
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: could see the difference in his play style, and obviously
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: their receiver room is packed. It's packed. You got Jacoby Myers.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: You got Brian Thomas, who had a better game today.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: You got Parker Washington. You got Brendan Strange. So there's
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: only one football. So I love that they're finally starting
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: to allow him to feel comfortable on defense. He's adding
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: his own element to that, especially against a receiving core
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: like the one they just faced. I really feel good
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: about the Jacksonville Jaguars, Mitchell. They're playing good football. Liam
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: Cohen has them going in the right direction. If they
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: can clean up those penalties, they're usually not As sloppy
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: as they were today, they're going to be tough to
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: deal with.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: No question about it. They look like a team that
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: could represent the AFC in the Super Bowl. I truly
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: mean that. Just how they've been playing as a team. Richard,
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: you were highly critical about this team last year, the
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: year before that. You've been critical about Trevor Lawrence since
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: he's struggled in this league. And he hasn't lived up
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: to the first overall pick billing that he was. What
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: has changed ever since Liam Cohen was introduced as head coach?
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Because it looks like the Jacksonville Jaguars has taken on
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: a new identity as a team. What has changed ever
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: since Liam Cohen stepped foot in that door as a
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: head coach for the Jacksonville Jaguars?
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's playing faster than his feet anymore.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: I think there are answers built into the plays. I
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: don't think they're dependent on him just having a super
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: arm or making superstar plays all the time. Sometimes... They're
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: giving him layups, like, hey, just make the layups. And
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: when we need you to be pinpointed and we need
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: you to have all this arm talent and do these
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: spectacular things, you can, but that's not the way we're
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: going to decide this offense. We're not going to depend
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: on you making incredible throws and making out-of-this-world plays for
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: our offense to be productive. They gave him a run game.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: They gave him a run game, a run game that
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: he can depend on. You can turn around and hand
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: it off, and he's been better. He's been better with
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: his decision-making. He's not forcing the ball down the field.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like he feels a lot of pressure
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: on his shoulders. They're protecting him really well. That's what
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: it's coming down to. They put playmakers around him. I mean,
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: Parker Washington has developed into one of the best receivers
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: in the league. They gave Jacoby Myers a big deal
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: because of what he was doing last year, and he
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: still finds a way to make plays. Brian Thomas was
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: the guy. He was their number one guy a few
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: seasons ago. He's starting to find his stride again. Brendan
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Strange is a good tight end, a good pass catcher
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: who can create mismatches with these linebackers. And when you
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: have all these mismatches, and Liam Cohen is designing plays where, hey,
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: there are answers in these plays. Trevor, you don't have to,
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: it's not going to be, hey, throw it up, and
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: this guy has to make a spectacular play, and you
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: have to thread it through a tight window all the time.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: I'm going to make it so, hey, within the play,
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: there's going to be a guy open. I'm designing openings
• 57:30
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• 57:33
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• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Let's take it to the fourth quarter here on the
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: Richard Sherman Podcast. Richard, some games today. that I don't
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: know how many people are going to care about. But
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: let's start overseas. The Indianapolis Colts took down the Washington
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: Commanders with ease, 30-13. Daniel Jones, a relatively low-key stat
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: line with 143 passing yards. But Jonathan Taylor continues to
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: be the bell cow of this team, 95 rushing yards
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: and two touchdowns. Are the Indianapolis Colts back? After starting 0-2,
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: they're 2-0 in the last two weeks. Do you consider
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: them contenders for the playoffs this year, Richard?
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: I'm still not sure right now, Mitchell. Obviously, this Commander's
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: team was without their top two quarterbacks, so that has
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: a tremendous impact on this game. But you've got to understand,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor playing like this is a big deal. I
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: don't know if Daniel Jones is quite the Indiana Jones
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: that he was last season before the injury. Maybe he'll
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: get there eventually. Only 143 yards passing and one interception
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: on the game today. Not using his legs in a
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: way he did last season. So, again, that leaves me concerned.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: But their defense, they had a takeaway in this game.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Two sacks in the game. Again, this is a commander's
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: team that's without their top two quarterbacks. Jaden Daniels was out.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: And then you lose Mariota early in this game. I'm
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: not sure I'm ready to give them that quite yet.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: But who knows? If they beat the Pittsburgh Steelers next week,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: We'll start to have that conversation.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: Fair enough. They just don't look the part right now.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but Washington trotting out Athens Calacamanas and
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: throwing 186 on you. There's still questions out there for
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colts, but hopefully after going 2-0 in the
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: last two games, they can get back to their winning ways.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: This Green Bay Packers team, you saw firsthand in Thursday
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Night Football, get absolutely destroyed by the Atlanta Falcons. They
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: take on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers this week in Tampa,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: which sounds like a very challenging game until you realize
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: you're lining up against Jalen Daniels, the undrafted free agent
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: rookie out of Kansas. And this game was competitive. I
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: know we kind of sounded the alarm on Green Bay
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: after Thursday Night Football, but Does this win do anything
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: in your eyes to ease your concern about this team?
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if it eases my concern, but
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: you got to give their offensive line a lot of credit.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: They got beat up really bad against the Atlanta Falcons,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: and some of the things they put on tape were concerning,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: and then you look in this game, and they gave
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: up no sacks. Jordan Love was kept relatively clean, and
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: he was effective when he was kept clean. He was
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: able to You know, pass the ball around the yard.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: He was 22 of 30, 197, two touchdowns. But I
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: think that's the biggest point of focus for me is
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: that offensive line. They picked up a few guys out
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: of free agency. They picked up Lakin Tomlinson, a former
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: teammate of mine. I think he started in this game.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: And a couple other guys, Mekhi Becton, just about everybody
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: who's ever– who's ever started meaningful games in the National
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Football League, who was a free agent and played offensive line,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: they picked up. And it made a difference. It made
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: a difference. Obviously, this Tampa Bay team is 0-4. They
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: were 0-3 coming into this game. They've struggled mightily. They're
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: starting an undrafted rookie, Jalen Daniels, not to be confused
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: with Jaden Daniels. And he struggled. He struggled, as you
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: would expect an undrafted rookie to start unless you're Brock Purdy. And...
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: I think they got a lot of questions to answer.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: It wasn't undrafted, Richard. Brock Purdy was Mr. Irrelevant, my friend. Mitchell.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Mitchell. You got it. I get it. I get what
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: you're saying.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: Continue. Continue.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: We'll correct this. Brock Purdy was not undrafted. He was Mr. Irrelevant.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: Just a hair off. Just a... You know, but.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: This team is struggling. They're spiraling right now, and the
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers have no real answers. Baker Mayfield doesn't
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: look like he's going to be available for the next
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: three to four weeks, potentially. He can't grip the football
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: right now. They're not scoring a lot of points. They
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: had some hope at the end of the game. They
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: brought the game to within three, but if you're them,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: I just don't know where you find offense. I just
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: don't know where you find offense. The Packers, they found
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: some hope. Their defense is really got after it. There
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: was some concern. Obviously, you lose Edrin Cooper in this
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: game to what appeared to be an Achilles injury, a
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: guy who was having a very dominant game before that point.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: I hate to hear that. There's so many injuries today,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: so many injuries throughout the league right now, and major players.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: So you really hope that he's– that it's not an Achilles.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: You hope that it's not an Achilles injury. and that
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Green Bay's defense continues to play well. But this Packers team,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's still leaving a lot to be desired.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: They won the football game, but they didn't really give
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: you a ton of confidence in any other capacity. They
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: scored 17 points. They gave up 14 to a Buccaneers
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: team that wasn't expected to do much. They got a
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: tough game against the Chicago Bears, but The Chicago Bears are,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: is Caleb going to be back or not? That's going
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: to be a big conversation. But if their offensive line
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: plays like they did today, they'll be in a better position.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: This team, the biggest thing that stood out for me
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: about this team is the running back situation. Caleb Johnson
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: and Marshawn Lloyd, despite the win, it's just unimpressive. Neither
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: one of them can be considered secure with the football
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: in their hands. Both fumbled today. I'm looking at, What
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: can they do? Is there a free agent out there
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: that they can plug and play that are better than
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: one of these two guys? Because that seems to be
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: what's really holding them back without Josh Jacobs there. Let's
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: take it on, and we'll stick in the NFC North here.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: The Vikings, 4-0, take care of the Dolphins. Obviously, we
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: talked about it leading into this game. This is the
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: Brian Flores revenge game. There might be no other team
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: in the NFL that's talked about least than the Minnesota Vikings,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: and this team is 4-0. Richard, you didn't even bother
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: to bring them up for your top five of the
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: power rankings last week when they were 3-0. Does this
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: win and improving to 4-0 do anything for you in
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: terms of bumping them up and putting them in the
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: top five of your power ranks?
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: Not really. And it's because they struggled with the team
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: with no wins. And, you know, there were some positives
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: you could take from it. Kyler Murray found some rhythm.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: You know, he looked comfortable. And Kevin O'Connell's offense threw
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: the ball on time. Aaron Jones ran the ball well.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: Their defense continued to take the football away and create sacks.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: Miami's defense got their first four sacks of the season
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: this game, but that's, again, why there's a level of concern.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about the Baltimore Ravens taking care of the
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans. No surprise there, but the Ravens got closer
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: at the end than a lot had thought if you
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: didn't watch this game. 24-18, Lamar Jackson goes out with
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: the injury. The offense sputters down late. Zay Flowers returns
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: from the hamstring injury. Eight receptions, 118 yards. He's the
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: storyline of this game. Certainly elevates that team offensively. Is
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: this season going to be any different for the Baltimore Ravens,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: improving to 3-1? With what you've seen through four games,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: do you view them as true contenders in the AFC?
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: Um... I think the NFC can go either way. I
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: like the way Lamar Jackson played in this game. He
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: had a couple drives where he was incredibly efficient. He
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: looked elite through the air, just looked in total command,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: 144.2 passer rating. Then Snoop Huntley came in the game
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: in the second half because Lamar had an ankle injury,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: it looked like, in the first half. And I don't
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: know if they were just being really safe with him
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: because they had such a big lead or if there's
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: something more serious going on. You hope it's nothing more serious.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: They got a game against Atlanta. This team could potentially
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: be 4-1. Derrick Henry, 23 carries for 73 yards. Again,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: still is doing it at a very high level deep
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: into his career. The Tennessee Titans still searching for answers.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: Cam Ward, 24-31, 222 yards, one touchdown, one interception. A
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: better game for him. Carnell Tate's best game of the season,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: nine receptions for 145 yards. But again, only two sacks
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: on the game. This team is still searching for their
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: first win. They looked better in this game, but that's
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: not enough.
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  Speaker 2: And then finally, the New York Giants improved a 3-1
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  Speaker 2: on the season with a win over the Cardinals, 36-24.
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  Speaker 1: 3-1.
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  Speaker 2: It's an impressive start for the New York Giants. It's
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: a very shame that Jackson Dart is out for this season.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: Given the circumstances in New York, with Jameis Winston under
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  Speaker 2: the helm, what is the ceiling for the New York
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: Giants this season?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what to expect from
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: the New York Giants.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: It's a good question, Richard. I've been thinking about it
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  Speaker 2: all day, man. I was excited to hear your answer.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, their ceiling can be the basement or it can
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: be the penthouse, Mitchell. I don't know. It depends on
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  Speaker 1: which day and which Jameis you get. If Jameis plays
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: like this, he was 18 of 29 for 250, three touchdowns.
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  Speaker 1: But those two interceptions, Mitchell, that's the Jameis experience. that
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  Speaker 1: you're going to get– he was sacked four times, but
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  Speaker 1: he found a way to win. He found a way
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: to make enough plays at the end. Obviously, the New
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: York Jets defense, Deontay Banks with a pick six of
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett near the goal line was the obvious difference
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: maker in this game. They played really well in the
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: red zone. Their defense had three interceptions, three takeaways on
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: the day and two sacks, but you just really never
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: know what you're going to get from this team. And
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: that could be a good or bad thing. They play
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders, and again, they're banged up right now
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: playing their third string quarterback. They could find a way
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  Speaker 1: to be 4-1, which is, if you're a Giants fan,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: is more than what you expected coming into this season.
• 1:08:55
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• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: Wait, wait, Mitchell, Mitchell, Mitchell. Marvin Harrison Jr. should be
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: traded to the Eagles. That's my hot take of the day.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: I think the Eagles should trade for Marvin Harrison Jr.
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  Speaker 2: There.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: Devontae Smith has a hamstring injury. They don't have a
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: ton of depth at the receiver position. Dontavian Wicks has
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: been a really good addition to this team. But I
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: think Marvin Harrison Jr. needs a new start. He needs
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: a fresh setting. He needs a new team. And I
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: think they should go out. That's the kind of the
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: move that Howie makes. And I think they should. It's
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: a good call. I mean, Marvin Harrison Jr.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: Has turned into the third option in Arizona behind Trey
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: McBride and Michael Wilson, Stanford Cardinal, go tree. He's emerged
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: and obviously they paid him coming into the season. They
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: like him, and for a team that is always going
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: to be airing out the ball, playing from behind in
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: most games, you would expect Marvin Harrison to at least
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: have some garbage time stats. He's got none of them.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: We saw a nice over-the-shoulder fade, corner of the end
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: zone for a 12-yard touchdown, and that was it. It's
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: not enough. A change of scenery is necessary, and I
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: like your call. The Eagles, not a bad one. Richard,
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• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: got the Atlanta Falcons at the New Orleans Saints. And
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: these are two teams, a lot of question marks. New
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: Orleans looked good despite being 1-2. Atlanta looked terrible. Then
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: Michael Penix came back and delivered greatness for them last
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: Thursday against the Green Bay Packers. What is your hottest
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: take about this Monday night matchup between the Falcons and Saints?
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: My hottest take? That's a good question. The Falcons will
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: have three sacks on the game. I got Xavier Watts
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: with an interception. I think the Atlanta Falcons win this
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: game because... I watched them against the Green Bay Packers,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: but with my luck, they play the opposite of the
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: way they played against the Green Bay Packers, and the
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: Saints win by 21. This is one of those games. Teams,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: they've been a mixed bag on both sides of the football,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: both teams. Which Tyler Shaw are you going to get?
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: Which Michael Penix are you going to get? Those are
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: the questions they've got to answer.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of big names in this game. Bijan Robinson,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: Drake London. I mean, Kyle Pitts. We go on the
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: other side of the fence. You got Alvin Kamara reemerging
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: as a starting quarterback or starting running back for the saints.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: And then Chris Alavi, who's been hotter than the skillet
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: to start the season, which player will be the deciding
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: factor in this game?
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: It's going to be Bijan Robinson in one way or another.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: If he, if he has a great game, I think
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: Atlanta wins. If they find a way to stop Bijan Robinson,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: you stop Atlanta, you win the game. Um, It's as
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: simple as that. If you can't stop Bajon, you have
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: no chance of stopping this team. They got big time
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: receivers on the outside. If you go all out to
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: stop him, you better be able to cover those guys.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: And they're not going to allow you to go all
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: out to stop him. So there should be lanes. And
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: if there's lanes, even if there's not lanes, he finds
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: a way to create. He's going to be the biggest
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: factor in this game.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: Richard, both teams are 1-2. This is the NFC South
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: that we make fun of on a weekly basis, but
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: it's still an intriguing matchup for Monday Night Football. The
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: winner of this game is going to take the lead
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: for the division, so there's a lot at stake here.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: What is the biggest storyline coming into this game?
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: There's not a lot of storylines, if I'm being honest.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: Both teams are 1-2. They can get to 500. The
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: storyline is the NFC South you know, could potentially be
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: 500 at this point. You know, it's one of those games.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: I got the Atlanta Falcons winning this game. You know,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: maybe if they can go on a run, we can
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: start having more of an in-depth conversation about what this
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: team can do later on.
• 1:13:02
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• 1:13:17
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• 1:13:20
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• 1:13:24
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  Speaker 2: Richard, we saw a bit of a wild scene, something
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: we don't see a whole lot of. It's going viral
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: right now on X, Instagram, whatever social media site you
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: want to go on these days. And it's Trey McBride
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: in an exchange with an official and the official saying
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: F you to Trey McBride. I got to believe, you know,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: as a player, you do not take to that very kindly.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: How does this happen? What are your thoughts about officials
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: talking back to players in this manner?
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: Well, it happens all the time. Maybe this is one
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: of the few times it gets caught on camera and
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: fans get an insight to how the dynamic works sometimes.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: But these referees are human beings and they get overly
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: emotional and get overly caught up too. You saw it
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: in the Minnesota Vikings game. One of the defenders was
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: kind of thrown into a referee. The referee gets up,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: gets all in his face, starts pointing and yelling at him.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: And these are highly charged games. These are high adrenaline games.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: you know, individuals playing in these football games and you
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: got to try to keep your cool as a player
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: while these referees aren't always keeping their cool. And they
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: have a lot of power and they have a lot
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: of power on the outcome of these games. So I'm
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: sure the league will reprimand the ref in some way,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: but it's just a snapshot into the dynamics of a
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: football game. You know, you wonder, how these guys do,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, man, these guys are pretty calm
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: and reserved, and they're not. They're not always reserved. And
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: sometimes you get into it and you wonder why a
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: player's gotten so frustrated throughout the game and why he's
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: going off, and it's because sometimes there's been numerous conversations
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: with this ref and there's a level of disrespect happening
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: that you can't respond to because you'll be penalized. And
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: this is just one of those examples where a player's
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: getting cursed out and what are you going to do?
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: You just got to turn around and walk back and
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: hope that something's done about it. Not every time is
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: it caught on camera like this.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: Have you ever had exchanges with refs in your days?
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: What was the worst thing a refs ever said to you?
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: I've had many exchanges with refs and, and you know, it's,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: it's just, it's charged in a moment. I can't remember
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: everything that said, or, you know, I'm not going to
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: try to try to relitigate things from the past, but again,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: it's charged up. They don't always agree with the things
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: you're doing. And sometimes the, the, the refs are offensive
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: centric usually. And obviously in this, this clip, it's Trey McBride,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: a tight end who was frustrated, but, A lot of
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: times they're almost frustrated with DBs to the point where
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: they're like, hey, get the F off of them. You know, stop, stop,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: stop doing this. Like they're with the offense. And you're like, hey,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: I'm playing in this game too. You're supposed to be
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: an objective party. And so you get kind of frustrated
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: with that. But you got to deal with it. That's
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: part of the game.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: Well, Richard, it's a pleasure sitting down with you every weekend, man.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: As Sunday nights, these are the best nights. It's football season.
• 1:16:56
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• 1:17:00
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• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: As always, you could be anywhere in the world, but
• 1:17:22
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• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: I hope you guys are healthy and happy and doing
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: well and enjoying this Sunday. If your team won, great.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: If they didn't, as always, next week. We'll see you
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: next time. All right.