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Mac & Bone Hour 3: Panthers Poised to Regress in 2026? · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo on your radio, baby.
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  Speaker 2: This is my friend Matt.
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  Speaker 3: Do it live. All right, y'all. Mack and Bone with you.
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  Speaker 3: Joint practice day in Carolina. Texans in town.
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  Speaker 4: Looking forward to checking out that practice later. We've got
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  Speaker 4: plenty of conversation to have about the Carolina Panthers, including.
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  Speaker 4: An ESPN personality bone that has listed the Panthers among
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  Speaker 4: a few teams that he believes are set up to
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  Speaker 4: take a step back this season.
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  Speaker 3: Take a step back. I read the rundown wrong. Never mind.
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  Speaker 3: Respect the Panther.
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  Speaker 4: We're not happy with that ESPN employee.
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  Speaker 3: Now, our next guest, though, we are always happy with this.
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  Speaker 3: Not buying that person's book.
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  Speaker 4: We are always happy with this ESPN employee. She is
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  Speaker 4: Heather Dinich, and my goodness, do we have stuff to
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  Speaker 4: talk about. It's week zero, so we have football just
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  Speaker 4: a few days away, but my goodness, do we have
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  Speaker 4: drama with the Big Ten and the SEC banning the
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  Speaker 4: pro athletes from coming back. Heather Dinich also has a
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  Speaker 4: book coming out here in the not-too-distant future to tell
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  Speaker 4: us about as well, and she joins us to talk
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  Speaker 4: some college football right now, ESPN's Heather Dinich.
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  Speaker 3: Heather, thank you for joining us. How are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, my friends. I'm great. I'm so happy that
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  Speaker 1: there's college football to talk about, but I know you're
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  Speaker 1: going to ask me something about nothing about college football.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to ruin your morning with this first question.
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  Speaker 4: And we have two local teams playing in week zero.
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  Speaker 4: We can't even get to the games yet. That's true. God,
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  Speaker 4: we need the games. Do you think, Heather, when do
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  Speaker 4: you think when the games start, which, by the way,
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  Speaker 4: every college football media member and fan has probably said
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  Speaker 4: the same thing this week. Please just start the game
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  Speaker 4: so we can focus on them. How much do you
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  Speaker 4: think do we just go all in and focus on
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  Speaker 4: the games? Please tell me this other stuff takes a backseat.
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  Speaker 4: What do you think?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely. And listen, I've been saying this for months,
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  Speaker 1: and they've been trying to get federal legislation, and we've
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  Speaker 1: been talking about playoff expansion. As soon as these teams
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  Speaker 1: kick off on a college football Saturday, everything else seems
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  Speaker 1: right with the world. And college football is still a
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  Speaker 1: fantastic sport. It's one that we all love. It's one
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  Speaker 1: that we will all continue to watch. Interest has never
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  Speaker 1: been higher. and everybody just needs to figure out who
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  Speaker 1: their quarterback is.
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  Speaker 3: And they don't care how much you get paid.
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  Speaker 5: Before we get into the endless chaos, UNC gets it
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  Speaker 5: started in Ireland against TCU on Saturday on ESPN. What's
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  Speaker 5: your expectation, Heather, for Belichick in year two? Your colleague
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  Speaker 5: Paul Feinbaum went off on him yesterday. Are you thinking
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  Speaker 5: this will be a continued disaster, or can Belichick make
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  Speaker 5: some strides here this season?
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  Speaker 1: I'll be surprised if there are major strides made. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: part of it is just how tough the schedule is. But,
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  Speaker 1: you know, also, we don't know what Billy Edwards Jr.
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  Speaker 1: is going to look like as quarterback. What's fascinating, as
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  Speaker 1: we talk about eligibility, is the fact that UNC's QB
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  Speaker 1: is 23 years old. He's 8-8 as a starter. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he just hasn't played. He got hurt, I
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  Speaker 1: want to say, like five games into his career at Wisconsin.
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  Speaker 6: So.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's a question mark there, but look, there's
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  Speaker 1: a question mark for TCU too, where Jaden Craig is
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  Speaker 1: taking over at QB Harvard. He's got to be pretty smart.
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  Speaker 1: You would think 20 and four record as a starter.
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  Speaker 1: He's only got 15 career intersections in his career, which
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  Speaker 1: is as much as TCU quarterbacks had last year. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's going to be an interesting experiment
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  Speaker 1: for Belichick, but I would be surprised if there's some
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  Speaker 1: gigantic turnarounds.
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  Speaker 4: We're talking to Heather Dinich, ESPN, talking some college football
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  Speaker 4: here on the Mac and Bone Show. I will ask
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  Speaker 4: you the question that will probably put a frown. Turn
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  Speaker 4: that smile into a frown, Heather, because I know you've
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  Speaker 4: talked about this so much as someone that covers college football.
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  Speaker 4: But the latest news with the SEC and the Big
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  Speaker 4: Ten coming out with these rules, it sounds like the
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  Speaker 4: Big 12 and ACC are going to follow suit. It's
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  Speaker 4: hard for me, though, not to feel like These guys
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  Speaker 4: will run to a court and will then probably win
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  Speaker 4: a court case and be back. Where do you think
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  Speaker 4: this situation with the pro players coming back goes from here?
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  Speaker 1: Into a courtroom.
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  Speaker 3: I think you're absolutely right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the reality of the situation. But the
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  Speaker 1: other thing too is, and I said this in July
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  Speaker 1: when we were at SEC Media Days and everyone was
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  Speaker 1: talking about the SEC, quote, breaking away. And my response was, listen,
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  Speaker 1: here's the reality of this. When we're talking about that,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about these conferences making their own rules and
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  Speaker 1: And it is not dissimilar to what the Big 12
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  Speaker 1: did with the Brendan Sorsby case. Lawsuits left and right,
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  Speaker 1: all over the place, over the most Basic rule in
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  Speaker 1: college sports, you cannot bet on your own team and
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  Speaker 1: go play in a game. And some judge said otherwise, right?
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  Speaker 1: This is a similar situation. You can't sign a pro
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  Speaker 1: contract and come back to college. My 16-year-old cannot play
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  Speaker 1: on my 14-year-old soccer team. This goes down to the
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  Speaker 1: very grassroots of youth sports, right? But some judge said otherwise.
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  Speaker 1: So what happens? The conference is flexed. And just like
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  Speaker 1: with the Sorsby case in Big 12, your mark and
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  Speaker 1: those leaders in that league filed a federal lawsuit. So
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  Speaker 1: that hasn't reached the point with the Big Ten and
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  Speaker 1: the SEC and everybody else yet with this particular case.
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  Speaker 1: But the point is, is when you don't have the
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  Speaker 1: United States government bailing you out, you have to solve
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  Speaker 1: the problem yourself. And this is what I would expect
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  Speaker 1: to see more of at the conference level.
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  Speaker 5: Heather, how smart was it for the Big Ten conference
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  Speaker 5: to threaten the half-year coach suspensions? Because basically what we
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  Speaker 5: assume that is for is if the players sue the
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  Speaker 5: conference and they say you can play, well, they're basically
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  Speaker 5: telling the coaches, go ahead and play those guys. But
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  Speaker 5: if you do, you can't coach them for half the year.
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  Speaker 5: Was that a really smart move by the Big Ten
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  Speaker 5: if that's what the reasoning was?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it's very smart because it's a show of unity
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  Speaker 1: from the leaders in these leagues whose very own coaches
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  Speaker 1: are trying to pursue these guys. And I've reached out
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  Speaker 1: multiple times to LSU to figure out what the next
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  Speaker 1: step is and haven't gotten a response yet. But the
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  Speaker 1: reality is there's basically three choices, right, for these coaches.
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  Speaker 1: You can either try to break the rule.
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  Speaker 3: And see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: You fight it in court, or you just simply part
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  Speaker 1: ways and.
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  Speaker 3: Say, hey, man, you know what?
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  Speaker 1: I can't do this anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Good luck.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt. But I like I like what y'all
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  Speaker 4: are saying. Like, I would love to see. I know
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  Speaker 4: the SEC hasn't yet announced what their punishments would be.
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  Speaker 4: I'd love to see Greg Sankey say Lane Kiffin. How
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  Speaker 4: about this one? You're going to be suspended half the
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  Speaker 4: season if you bring me.
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  Speaker 3: I would love to see them try that as well.
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  Speaker 3: I like drama. I'm not going to lie, Heather. I
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  Speaker 3: like drama. We all do.
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  Speaker 4: We're college football people. OK, so let's get you started.
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  Speaker 4: One of the things we know you for is football fans.
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  Speaker 4: Are you kind of breaking down playoff scenarios and covering
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  Speaker 4: the college football playoff? So as someone here in ACC
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  Speaker 4: country that wants this conference to improve, that loves what
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  Speaker 4: Miami did last year, but we need more, right? We
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  Speaker 4: need help for Miami. What are the chances the ACC
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  Speaker 4: can have multiple playoff teams in the 12-team playoff? And
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  Speaker 4: who are the most likely candidates to join Miami? What
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  Speaker 4: do you think?
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  Speaker 1: It's not impossible, but it remains really hard. And the
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  Speaker 1: thing that I love about the ACC right now is
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  Speaker 1: there are multiple teams who can make a run at this.
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  Speaker 1: The question is, who is the next best team? And look,
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  Speaker 1: I have been paying attention to the ACC for decades,
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  Speaker 1: and we all know... that as much as we think
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  Speaker 1: Miami can, will, and should win the thing, we know
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  Speaker 1: how this works, right? I mean, correct me if I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 5: Didn't Miami lose.
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  Speaker 2: To Louisville last year?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: There we are.
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  Speaker 2: Right. So let's start with Louisville.
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  Speaker 1: That's a team that can make a run at this thing.
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  Speaker 1: I definitely have my eye on Virginia and NC State.
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  Speaker 1: According to ESPN Analytics, There are six teams in the
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  Speaker 1: ACC with at least a 10% chance to reach the
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  Speaker 1: conference championship game. Virginia is one of them. But you
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  Speaker 1: look at C.J. Bailey at NC State and what he
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  Speaker 1: did to Virginia last year, he carved them up on
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  Speaker 1: the ground and in the air. So this is wide open,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, besides Miami. But we cannot not talk
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  Speaker 1: about Clemson. I will be shocked if Clemson isn't significantly
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  Speaker 1: better this year. And I know that there are still
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  Speaker 1: a lot of questions, but I talked to Dabo Sweeney
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  Speaker 1: this off season.
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  Speaker 3: He owned all of it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you guys know how he rolls, but I
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  Speaker 1: think that they're going to be better defensively with the
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  Speaker 1: second year under Tom Allen. And I think they're going
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  Speaker 1: to play Miami in the ACC championship game.
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  Speaker 3: Heather, to sum up.
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  Speaker 5: All this, whether it's the ACC and the age eligibility,
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  Speaker 5: I can't believe what I saw yesterday of the Virginia
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  Speaker 5: offensive line. Their years, Mac, also are five, six, six, seven,
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  Speaker 5: and seven. They have two six-year guys, two seven-year guys,
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  Speaker 5: a fifth-year guy, and the tight end is also a
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  Speaker 5: fifth-year guy. That is, you talk about, that's got to
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  Speaker 5: be the oldest position group in all of college football,
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  Speaker 5: I would guess.
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 4: That's got, yeah, they've got so much experience on that
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  Speaker 4: team in general, you know, including in the trenches. Uh, Heather,
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  Speaker 4: we've got to, I've got to bring up your book here.
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  Speaker 4: I want people to know it's coming out in the
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  Speaker 4: spring in April. It's never flinch on, on football family
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  Speaker 4: and finding my seat at the table. And I want
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  Speaker 4: you to know this Heather, when I'm reading the, you know, like, um, uh,
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  Speaker 4: website of the Hackett, uh, Hatchet book group about this book.
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  Speaker 4: I am so intrigued to find out about you sitting
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  Speaker 4: on Bob Knight's back porch eating sloppy joes just days
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  Speaker 4: after he was fired.
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  Speaker 3: Like, I'm ready. I need to read this book now
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  Speaker 3: just for that story alone.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. And he ate his with a fork,
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  Speaker 1: by the way.
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  Speaker 2: He yelled at me.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. That's disappointing.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate it so much. Thank you for bringing it up.
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  Speaker 1: I wrote it last year. It's coming out this spring.
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  Speaker 1: And it's just it's meant to entertain people. inform people and,
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  Speaker 1: and just honestly lift people up and help people because
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  Speaker 1: over decades of my career, I've had opportunity to sit
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  Speaker 1: down with coaches like Bob Knight, Joe Paterno, Bobby Bowden,
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  Speaker 1: who you guys know very well. And I mean, being
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  Speaker 1: able to call Bowden at his house, you know, and his,
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  Speaker 1: his wife and just, I could remember her holding the
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  Speaker 1: phone down and being like, Bobby, Heather, Heather's on the
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  Speaker 1: phone from ESPN.
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  Speaker 2: He always took the call.
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  Speaker 1: Um, Um, and just life doing this as a mom
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  Speaker 1: of three boys and what it's like really to cover
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  Speaker 1: the college football playoff for ESPN behind the scenes. So
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  Speaker 1: thank you guys.
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  Speaker 3: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: There's also another one here that's got me intrigued. All right.
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  Speaker 4: Because, uh, Russell Wilson was an NC state quarterback and
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  Speaker 4: you apparently left your, uh, spaghetti covered infant locked in
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  Speaker 4: a high chair to do a quick interview with Russell Wilson.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm intrigued.
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  Speaker 3: Priorities. And he probably just gave you all his cliches anyway.
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  Speaker 5: Heather, I remember, you're right, the first time I had
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  Speaker 5: to call Bobby Bowden as a producer for the guest,
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  Speaker 5: to be a guest, we were taping it, and I
• 12:05
  Speaker 5: grew up a Florida Gator fan, so I'm thinking I'm
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  Speaker 5: going to have to talk to Bobby Bowden. What am
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  Speaker 5: I going to do with this guy? And then as
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  Speaker 5: soon as he talked to him, he's like, what's going on, Travis?
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  Speaker 3: How you doing, buddy? And it's like, oh, my God,
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  Speaker 3: I love him so much. That's so awesome. He's so
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  Speaker 3: easy to like.
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  Speaker 4: The nicest man, no doubt about it. All right, Heather, well,
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  Speaker 4: good luck with that. Keep up the good work on ESPN,
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  Speaker 4: and thanks for joining us. Appreciate you.
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  Speaker 3: You bet, guys.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Enjoy these games.
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  Speaker 3: All right, there you go.
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  Speaker 4: That is Heather Denich joining us here on the Mac
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  Speaker 4: and Bone Show.
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  Speaker 3: I told my dad, I've got to talk to the enemy, Bobby,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm going to tell him how I feel about it.
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  Speaker 3: My dad says, yeah, get him. You know how it is, Mac.
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  Speaker 3: What's going on at that gum in North Charlotte? He's
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  Speaker 3: just the nicest guy, dude. How do you hate that man?
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  Speaker 3: He's the Dolly Parton of coaching.
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  Speaker 4: And that's what made that, and I was in Florida
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  Speaker 4: at the time. That's a good call. And that's what
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  Speaker 4: made Bone that rivalry. so good is Bobby Bowden was
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  Speaker 4: America's grandpa and so nice. And Steve Spurrier was just
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  Speaker 4: Lane Kiffin before there was Lane Kiffin.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: So it was just, it was very easy to root
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  Speaker 4: for the Knowles back then. I'm going to be honest
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  Speaker 4: with you. By the way, she talked about Virginia and
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  Speaker 4: like the FBI chances of them winning the ACC.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: They have a higher percent chance in state. Of course,
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  Speaker 4: their favorite win this game by five and a half.
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  Speaker 4: But I was listening to Roddy Jones talk about this
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  Speaker 4: yesterday and If you look at the schedules bone for
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  Speaker 4: both for the Lord knows I've talked enough about the,
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  Speaker 4: about CJ Bailey and state schedule. Like y'all have heard
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  Speaker 4: enough about that and the opportunity that that gives state
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  Speaker 4: to have a good season. But Virginia schedule to bone
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  Speaker 4: is also one of the most manageable in the ACC
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  Speaker 4: as well. Like, so this is a huge game where
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  Speaker 4: they both have these schedules of opportunity. If they can
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  Speaker 4: just win this game, you know, so this one's huge.
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  Speaker 3: On Saturday, man.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, for a week zero game. Because it's in
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  Speaker 5: that spot, Matt, because obviously it was supposed to be
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  Speaker 5: in Brazil. It's a weird start for Virginia State, Matt,
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  Speaker 5: because as a State fan pointed out yesterday, because the
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  Speaker 5: way it worked out, Brazil game, they don't have a
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  Speaker 5: week one game, either team. They don't play again until, what,
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  Speaker 5: September 12th, whenever week two comes up. So it's kind
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  Speaker 5: of odd that they do play week zero, but they
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  Speaker 5: don't play week one. The Heels don't play week one either, right?
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  Speaker 5: Which makes you wonder, why didn't they just play this
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  Speaker 5: game in week one then after it came back from Brazil?
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  Speaker 3: They wanted to.
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  Speaker 2: Do week zero.
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  Speaker 3: It was originally scheduled for a week zero game.
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  Speaker 4: And then remember, they asked week zero games are not
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  Speaker 4: supposed to be on camp, I don't think. Or there's
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  Speaker 4: some sort of regulation about it. There are some on camp,
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  Speaker 4: so I shouldn't say that. But they wanted it to
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  Speaker 4: be played week zero. And I think the reason why
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  Speaker 4: is I think both programs want the publicity.
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  Speaker 3: It's true.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: You only have so many games on at 330.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I know USC is playing San Jose State,
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  Speaker 4: but I don't think they wanted to play it. With
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  Speaker 4: more people watching. By the way, to the point about
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  Speaker 4: their schedules. Maybe ACC also may have wanted a doubleheader also.
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  Speaker 4: I think the ACC wants the publicity for all these schools.
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  Speaker 4: They have four different games involving ACC teams this weekend.
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  Speaker 4: But Virginia's schedule, no Clemson, no Miami, no Louisville. And
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  Speaker 4: then NC State's schedule, Bone, is no Miami, no SMU.
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  Speaker 4: and no Clemson. So that right there speaks to how
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  Speaker 4: big of a game this is, man. They don't play
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  Speaker 4: a lot of the big dogs. Very good point there.
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  Speaker 4: When we come back, ESPN's Bill Barnwell names the Panthers
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  Speaker 4: as a team he expects to take a step back
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  Speaker 4: this season. Does his reasoning that you'll hear make sense,
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  Speaker 4: or do we think he's just a big giant boob?
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  Speaker 3: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
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  Speaker 7: For myself, a cup of ambition and yawn and stretch
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  Speaker 7: and try to come to life. Jump in the shower
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  Speaker 7: and the blood starts pumping out on the streets. The
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  Speaker 7: traffic starts jumping with folks like me on the job
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  Speaker 7: from nine to five.
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  Speaker 3: Working nine to five.
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  Speaker 7: What a way to make a living.
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  Speaker 3: Getting by.
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  Speaker 7: It's all taking and no giving. They just use your
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  Speaker 7: mind and they never give you credit.
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  Speaker 8: The rest of it has just been getting him really
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  Speaker 8: comfortable with this system and making this system his. That's
• 16:19
  Speaker 8: what we've really been working on the last one and
• 16:20
  Speaker 8: a half seasons is just we have all these concepts.
• 16:23
  Speaker 8: We all have these schemes, but I want to make
• 16:24
  Speaker 8: sure that this fits what he does well and what
• 16:26
  Speaker 8: he wants to hear coming over the radio waves. That's
• 16:29
  Speaker 8: really what's happened. Even as we go into camp right now,
• 16:32
  Speaker 8: just his level of comfort with the guys having the
• 16:35
  Speaker 8: same crew to throw to and then just anticipating stuff
• 16:37
  Speaker 8: before the snap on his first step as he's going back.
• 16:40
  Speaker 8: eliminating things by coverage, eliminating things by pressure, and just
• 16:43
  Speaker 8: playing fast. So I love where he's at right now.
• 16:46
  Speaker 8: We've got a long camp to go, and he knows
• 16:47
  Speaker 8: we've just got to continue to get tighter as a group.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: There you go, Coach Canales. Talk it to Stephen A. Smith.
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: Yesterday um put some respect on my name interesting interview
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: very interesting interview and that's him talking to and it
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: makes sense the more they work together bone the more
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: they can cater the offensive system to bryce then you
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: throw in it's a call and plays not having a
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: distracted play caller canalis being a better coach daryl bevel
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: being brought in i likey I like these changes. I
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: also love me some 9 to 5 and love me
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: some Dolly Parton. May she rest in peace. 6 to 10,
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: what a way to make a living.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: We should do our own version. We should do our
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: parody song.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: We're talking 6 to 10. That's Boney Parton. It's a
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: whole different animal. Boney Parton. It's a far cry from
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: the setup that Bryce Young has now. to what he
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: started in the chaos of his rookie year when all
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: the voices in his ear, it seems much more streamlined
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: now for Bryce to have success, both in his now
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: fourth year coming up, but also feels like there's an
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: order of.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: In orders in place that simply wasn't there for young Bryce.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: No doubt, man. And then the confidence, too, man. There's
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: so much I like. Now, listen, today's test is a
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: tough one. So, like, if Bryce Young makes a couple
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: of mistakes against the No. 1 defense from last year,
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: the No. 1 turnover defense from last year, if the
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: offensive line gets, you know, maybe Anderson and Hunter get
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: the best of our boys, we don't need to go
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: losing our minds. It's a great test. And as multiple
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: texters said, Bone, Even if you do feel like, oh man,
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: Texas defense got the best of the Panthers offense.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: There's so much to learn from that.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: You, you, you probably will not play a defense this
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: good all year, you know? And you certainly won't play
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: many that are this good. If there are, if you
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: want to argue, there are others as good. So it
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: can only help you moving forward.
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: Granny's looking for Heine here. She, what is she talking about?
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: What's that? Oh, Heinz, not Heine. Heinz. Why, why no
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Heinz on Sunday? Granny have a catch-up problem? What's going
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: on here? Well, I know Heinz on Sunday. Did you
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: mean Haynes? I wanted to see him again. Haynes King?
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: And the game's Friday, Granny. She's got the game day wrong.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: She's got the name wrong.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: Granny, we know you've been having a little bit of a...
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: of a movement there in the last week or so.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: We got to get you back on your game here, Joe.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: You had a Heinz issue this week and a Heine
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: issue last week.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Oh no, Finney, how dare you? Poor Granny. Oh my God.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Granny, you're talking out your backside right now. Oh my goodness. Anyway, yes,
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: no Haynes King this week, man. And we'll see what
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: happens on cut down day. I still would guess he's
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: going to be on the roster. I want to talk
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: about this Bill Barnwell piece. For those of you that
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: have texted in asking how Finney's night out with a
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: lovely lady went last night. He will give you those
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: details coming up in the random crap segment, Bone, coming
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: up at 845.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: What a lie.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: What a sign of respect for Finney. If you care
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: about Finney's dating life, it's at the bottom of the
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: random crap segment.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Not even at the top.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Of it.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Oh, we can make it at the top if you
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: would like, sir. We can put it there at the top. Anyway,
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: all right, let me talk about... He's not buried behind
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Nick Saban's new hobby. Let me talk about this Bill
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: Barnwell article, sir. Let me talk about that. Because he
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: did a piece on ESPN.com where he talked about the
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: teams that he thinks are going to take a step
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: back this year in the NFL. And I'm going to
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: be honest with you. He named a couple of teams
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: that I have already said that are on the Panther
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: schedule that I expect to take a step back. The
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Chicago Bears and the Denver Broncos. So I'm not going
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: to act bone like I think he's completely out to
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: lunch on this. I just want to talk about his reasoning.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: Some Panther fans are already texting annoyed with Bill Barnwell.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: They read the article. They're annoyed with him. I want
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: to talk about his reasoning, Bone, and how do we
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: feel about it? Does it make any sense to us?
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: He brings up advanced metrics. Of course he does. Advanced
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: metrics and computer models, Bone, do not like the Carolina Panthers.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: They do not.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: But I saw us in a playoff game playing one
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: of the best teams in the NFL who we beat
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: previously right down to the wire. But anyway, advanced metrics.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: He talks about how the Panthers' FPI last year was 25th.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: And that was the worst in the division last year,
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: despite the fact they won the division. Talks about the DVOA,
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: another metric, was 25th in the league last year. So
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: what he's trying to basically say is, yeah, they won
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: the division. But the metrics indicate how good they really
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: were down in and down out. And they were not
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: that good of a team. So I guess he is
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: expecting them, Bone, to play closer to their metric. Does
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: this mean anything to you? Or could you reverse that
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: and say, now hear me out. that yes, the metrics
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: were not in their favor, but yet they still figured
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: out a way to win some games and won the division,
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: albeit a bad division. So if they can improve some things,
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: they can be a better football team because maybe those
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: metrics improve a little bit. So they won MAAC despite
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: not being a good football team. They still won a
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: division championship. So can you spin that as they're only
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: going to get better in our mind? So maybe now
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: going forward, those things can improve and they can win
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: even more football. You can spin if you want to bone,
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: you know, you can dance if you want to as well.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: You can leave your friends behind. He also brings up
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: one score games. I knew this was coming. This is
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: a big analytics person thing. If you win a lot
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: of one score games. the season before. And it's one
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: of the things I'm using on Virginia. They won three
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: overtime games last year. I'm betting bone. They won't be
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: so lucky this year. Um, and that's what he's saying
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: about the Panthers that they were six and two in
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: one score games last year, that they only won one
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: game bone by more than eight points. Um, that was
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: the blowout of the Falcons. And he is basically saying that,
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: you know, teams he's used this bone against, I think
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: the bears as well. Teams that win, and the Broncos,
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: teams that win a lot of close games, the analytics folks, Bone, believe, eh,
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: that luck will turn around. You will lose some of
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: those close games this year. Does that mean anything to you?
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: Well, Broncos 11-2, Eagles 8-4, Steelers and Panthers 7-3 in
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: one score games, Patriots 7-3. He said 6-2. Right here
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: it says 7-3. Does that include the play? Well, they
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: had an 8-point game. I don't think he counted that
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: for some reason. So that should count. I'm just reading
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: what it says.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Maybe that includes the playoff game, too?
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but my point is, I feel like the other teams, Mac,
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: are not being downgraded nearly enough for one-score games as
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: the Panthers are. I don't feel like that's used for...
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: the Eagles and the Patriots and Broncos. He didn't use
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: it on the Broncos. Overall, in general, when people bring
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: it up, I feel like the Panthers are used the
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: most of that group to downgrade him for that. If
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: you have, I don't know, man, if you've got Bryce cold, baby,
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: if you've got Bryce who is good in those situations,
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: you know, I would think there's a chance bone that
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: he can repeat it and be good in those situations.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Again, I also think bone, they will. because of their
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: defense this year, I think they will have games where
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: Bryce doesn't have to pull them out late.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: I think they will have more games that they.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: Can put away because the defense doesn't make it so
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: that Bryce has to keep making these plays. Imagine games
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: with two score leads. Oh, That'd be nice, wouldn't it?
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: I know the edge rushers would love it.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Because then all of a sudden they could pin their
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: ears back. I would expect there's going to be more
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: games like that this year. He also brings up, Bone,
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: the fact that this is Bill Barnwell, why he has
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: the Panthers on ESPN.com as one of his teams he
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: thinks takes a step back. Final day, they needed help
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: to win the division. They won the division on a
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: three-way tiebreaker. So he's bringing that up as well. I mean, 98%
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: of the national media, you know they backed into the
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: playoffs last year and didn't even have a winning record. Yeah,
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: but look at our offseason. This team is going to
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: be improved. They're not going to be that same team
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: last year that needs, in my opinion, needs to back
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: in and needs tiebreakers.
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: No teams in the NFL are the same year in,
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: year out. Of all the sports, Matt, teams change the
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: most in one year.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: It might be the NFL. Absolutely.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: No doubt about it. And by the way, in this article,
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: he does acknowledge the Panthers are improving. They make good
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: moves in the offseason. And he says they have the
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: sixth youngest core and they have talent on their roster.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: And he says if they stay healthy, he also brings
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: up our injuries bone early on. You know, he also
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: brings up the Icky and the Moten injuries and Braswell
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: and Skorton. And I don't think we can deny that.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? We've all felt a little bit,
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: you know, gun shy because of those. But he does
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: say on in this piece, if they stay healthy, they
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: could have a big year. He thinks we're headed in
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: the right direction. He is predicting, though, Bone, a step
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: back before they make a step forward. It's not a
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: completely evil piece.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: That says that we're, you know, completely... a non-factor for
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: the next decade or some.
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: Crap no i think we're out of the evil peace
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: game i think we move closer to more balanced pieces
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: than the pure evil pieces we had a lot of
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: time back in the evil peace world not fun can
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: i bring up a panther point here that i just
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: wanted before i forget about this did you see yesterday
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: mac it pertains to the start of the season did
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: you see what ben johnson said yesterday mac about the
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: bears offensive line He's not sold right now on their
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: offensive line. So while we're talking Panthers offensive line, Ozzie
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: may not be ready. Trapillo may not be ready for
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: week one. They're still trying to figure out their left
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: tackle situation. There's other offensive line questions.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Darnell Wright got hurt yesterday, too, by the way. They're
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: worried back about their offensive line heading into the beginning
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: of the season. Yeah, right tackle Darnell Wright, elbow injury yesterday.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: And the left tackle spots already in question for the
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: beginning of the year.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Wow, well, what happened to Ben?
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: And their center, didn't their center retire, didn't he? I
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: believe their center retired in the offseason, didn't he? I
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: think that's part of their problem also.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: You might be, yeah.
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: Somebody, let's see here. Anyway, you look that up. Drew Dahlman,
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: their Pro Bowl center, retired in the offseason at 27
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: years old. It's a left tackle, right tackle, center. It's
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: not just the Panthers entering week one that have questions. Oh,
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: let's go eat that offensive line up, Phillips. Phillips and Brown,
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: go get after these boys.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: It's an interesting admission from Ben Johnson because the last
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: quote I saw from Ben Johnson is him saying, our
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: goal is not just to win the Super Bowl, but
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: it's to win every game, and it's to average the
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: most points in the history of the NFL.
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: Shit.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: So he seems a little more realistic now, Bone, about
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: the fact that they may not be the greatest offense
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: the NFL has ever seen.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: How do you go from that to I'm not 100%
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: sold on our offensive line right now?
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Anyway.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: I want to get that in there before I forgot. Listen,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: I like Ben Johnson. Don't get me wrong.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: I wanted him to be the Panthers coach, and he
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: had no interest in us. But I still think we
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: ended up with a pretty darn good coach on our own.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Different, right?
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: I don't view him, Bone, as the complete offensive brilliant
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: whiz kid. I'm talking about canalis now that ben johnson
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: is but i also think canalis is a really good
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: culture builder and i think he's a really good ceo
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: head coach and i think the fact bone that he
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: has given up play calling like ben johnson you get
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: the feeling with ben johnson bone you will have to
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: pry the play call sheet.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: From his cold dead hands. He'll never give it up. No,
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: no shot. And in fairness, he's, he's amazing at it.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Whereas I don't necessarily think Canales in his three years
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: of play calling has, if that's been his biggest strength,
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: but I think, I think he's great for culture. And
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: I think he showed what kind of overall leader he
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: is by giving up the play calling. I definitely do. 704-570-9610.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: If you want to jump in here on the Mac
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: and Bone show, what do you think about the Bill
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Barnwell argument against the Panthers?
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: We also need to mention Bone. It doesn't, I mean,
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: mildly annoying. You know what I mean? Mildly annoying, but
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: I'm not like.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: Throwing a fit over this the way I've thrown fits
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: over other online content.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Questioning the Panthers. That's kind
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: of where I'm at. You know what I mean? Yeah,
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: I got you. It's mildly annoying.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: I know you're going to go to the analytics talking
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: points and stuff like that. He also brought up our
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: strength of schedule as well. But again, we don't know
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: how that schedule will look at the end.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: Of the season. People bring up the close games. the schedule,
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: and Bryce being short. Yeah, at least he didn't bring
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: that up. So usually that's in Panthers' negative bingo. At
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: least Barnwell didn't say a word about Bryce in there.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: I know Barnwell kind of looks like Fiddy.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: A little bit, by the way.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: He's in the brigade, isn't he, Fiddy? But Barnwell didn't
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: take it home, did he? Barnwell still called the sack nation.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: He called it.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Fit dog took it home and turned into a studly
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: stallion that had a date of all dates last.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: Night will there be a day two we'll find out
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: more on that random crap more on that just minutes
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: away baby.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Maybe that is is that disrespectful to put fitty's date
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: stuff in ran i didn't really think of it Is
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: that disrespectful?
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Of course you didn't.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: Does Finney's date stuff need to be somewhere else?
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: He wants three hours on this thing.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: Oh, my goodness. All right, I want to mention this, Finney.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: I'm just going to ignore that, Finney. I'm going to
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: mention this. There's a Packers reporter bone, and I forget
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: the name of this guy. You told me earlier.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Easton... Easton Butler. Easton Butler covers the Packers.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: And he said on Twitter last night that the Packers,
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: the Panthers are shopping tight end Jatavian Sanders and the
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Packers are one of the teams that has reached out.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: So again, I hadn't seen that anywhere else. Hadn't seen
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: any of the Panther writers report that. But to be
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: honest with you, it would make sense, right? If they're
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: considering keeping Waller to do that role, Right. Of that
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: tight end that can stretch the seam, you know, that
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: can attack mismatches. It would make sense, Bone, that if
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: they're considering cutting Sanders, they would try to see if
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: they can get anything for him in a trade.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: So it would make sense.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Tucker crafts off the knee injury that he suffered
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: against the Panthers last year. He's obviously a star, but,
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: you know, they're bringing him along slowly. And Luke Musgrave,
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: the backup tight end, has been out for a while here.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: So that would make sense of why the Packers, despite
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: having a great tight end and a good backup, why
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: they'd want another one. Well, they have questions entering the
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: season at the tight end spot.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: Would you have a problem if the Panthers are trying
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: to trade Jatavian Sanders?
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: No, because I feel like they've got to free up
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: some spots somewhere, whether it be for A.J. Dillon's spot or...
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: you know all these wide receivers we talk about i'd
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: rather i'd rather maybe sacrifice mac a tight end than
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: one of the other spots which i think they might
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: be more usable than.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: Extra do you want you want waller and frank's on
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: there and not sanders.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah frank is on there for his obvious reasons and
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: waller i think is more more of a known commodity
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: if he's right Sanders, to me, has had opportunities. Ultimately,
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: is he going to have a game when he looks
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: okay and then disappear for three or four games? Is
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: he going to be a consistent presence? I have not
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: seen that yet. I know Waller, if he's in there,
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: can be consistent. He's supposed to be the athletic. The
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: only worry with Waller is the injuries. Three stints on
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: the IR last year. He acknowledged it himself when he
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: signed here. He said, it took this long for me
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: to get a call, and part of it is my...
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: the injuries, the availability last year. But when he played,
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: he produced.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: He made catches downfield in the intermediate range, and he
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: made five.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: In the deep range. J.T.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: Sanders was brought here, Bone, to be a guy that
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: can beat guys down the seam, that can give you
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: big plays as a tight end. He averaged 6.6 yards
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: a catch last year. He didn't do it. He did
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: it way better in his rookie season. And to your point,
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: I can't imagine any Panther fans... you know, feel some
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: sort of sadness for JT. I'm not trying to be
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: mean about it, but this is his third training camp.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: His third training camp, and they decide to bring Darren
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: Waller in. It was pretty obvious right then, Bone, in
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: my opinion, how they feel about JT Sandler.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: And he's also not staying healthy either. No, it's true.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: He had the frigate's injury, but he also had the
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: broken ankle, right? Definitely.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: So, yeah, has that taken away a little bit of
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: the athletic ability as well? Speaking of athletic ability, here
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: is Fitty Plops Marlow.
• 33:25
  Speaker 9: A little hometown or a big old city.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: Might as well share Might as well smile.
• 33:32
  Speaker 9: Life goes on for a little while.
• 33:37
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• 34:04
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• 34:04
  Speaker 2: That was a great update, Fit.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: Great update. That was good stuff. One of your best,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: I'd say.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: I was going to talk about the Braves beating the
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Dodgers 4-3, but let's just go to break and get
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: the hell out of here.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: Game-winning hit for all beasts. And Iglesias survived that night, man.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: Survived it.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: All right, when we come back, it is random crap.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: We are going to tell you about Nick Saban's latest
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: hobby that cracks us up. Well, Melo makes a wise
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: driving decision. And the main event, Fitties Date Recap. Sports
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: Random crap, random crap. Mac and Bone talk, random crap.
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: Random crap, random crap. Mac and Bone talk, random crap. Random,
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: random crap. Random crap. Random crap.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: What the deuce?
• 35:06
  Speaker 8: Oh, crap.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: Oh, crap.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: We stink. like a baby's blowout infested diaper. They talk
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: about crap that is random.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: It's the queen city's favorite born in tandem.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Mac and bone, random crap, mac and bone. All right, y'all,
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: let's do it. Let's do it. Uh, 50s, uh, PR man.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: The Bone Man has requested that Fitty, at least if
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: he's going to get stuck in the Random Crap segment
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: with his date review, that he at least gets top billing.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: We are honoring that right now, Bone, here at Random Crap.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: We are giving Fitty's date top billing. He moved ahead
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: of Lomelo and Nick Saban. Nick Saban praying bridge with
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: Miss Terry's girls. But anyway, before we get to that brilliance,
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: Fit Daddy. What are we allowed to say? I don't
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: know what I'm allowed to say, man, but I know this, baby.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: You are strutting around like you George Jefferson, baby. What
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: can you tell us about last night's date?
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: Let's see.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: I've been on the show for a little over two
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: years now.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: That's it?
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Phrasing, I know it feels longer. Gone on a
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: couple of dates during my time with the show. Last night,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: by far and away, officially the best first date I've had.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: How about that?
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Since I became your producer.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: There you go, baby. Someone told us our clap's not
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: as manly as KB's.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: I clap. I clap.
• 36:39
  Speaker 9: Put hands together and clap.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: And I can't help but think it's because we have
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: kept Mac from talking about the date. That's the only
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: thing that popped in my head when it went so positive.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: Couldn't it be that you found a good match for yourself?
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: The one concerning thing that scared me at first, and
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: I'm not even joking when I say this, she was
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: nearly your.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Cousin though, right?
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: And I'm not even joking here.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: It's amazing how small the world is. Her aunt and
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: my uncle had a previous relationship. Like 15-something years ago. So, yes.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Dodged a bullet there. This thing would be as ineligible
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: as Lane Gifford's players. She's cousin to Jace.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: We're good. You're not family, but you were awful close
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: to being family.
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: You also said, I don't want to spill the family
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: tea here, but something happened where Mama's not happy with
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: some here?
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I saw my aunt and my cousin, who
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: I used to live with, they were at the restaurant.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: What?
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Last night, and Maumau thinks that they were planted there.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: And when I got home and told her this, she said, quote,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: I'm going to kick your uncle's ass. And so Maumau's
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: now on the phone.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: They were spying?
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: That's what she thinks. I told her that I think
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: it was just.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Spygate.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: You know, Momo, it's Monroe. It's Union County. There's not
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: a lot of places to go.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: You've got to go to a different Mexican restaurant. That
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: seems awful coincidental, doesn't it?
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: But, so, yeah, Momo was on the prowl. She's going
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: to be hunting some people down today.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Give this man some dang privacy.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: You know how badly I wanted to be out there
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: in a damn Bobby Valentine disguise?
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Mac, you should have because.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: But I stayed home. I gave the man his space.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: Momo!
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: It was the emptiest. Like, every time I've gone to
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: this restaurant, it's usually packed. I don't know if they just...
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: What was going on last night in Union County, there
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: were three tables there that had people sitting down to eat.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Oh, dang. I don't know what's up with that.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: She was wanting you to plan the second date while
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: the first date was still going.
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: On, right?
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: That is correct.
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, Finny.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Just tell me when the wedding is. Wedding bells, baby.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: And there we go.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: I'll be ghosted by the end of the weekend.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Thank you for that, Matt. Was that the wedding march
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: or the Fox Sports team? What was that one? That
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: was my wedding march, baby. Can we be in the wedding?
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: That's all I got. Are we groomsmen? Oh, yeah, y'all
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: be there.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: I think Finney's afraid, though. I'll Matt curse it. You
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: know what I mean? Surprised Finney even will invite me.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: You flounder in a tux in a cummerbund? Let's go, baby.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: I went to Bone's wedding. I'll just put it that way, Finney.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Max said, I wish you nothing but the best.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: You also went to Willie's, too.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: That's true. That one seems to be going along well.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: I think she's still tolerating him.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Tolerates a word. Willie is moving houses. We are.
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: Assuming she's also moving houses, right? Did she kick him out?
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: You'll be mad about that coming up. How dare you assume?
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: People are excited right now. Texter says, did Sir Loin
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: of Beef show up to put in a good word
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: for Fiddy? I tried to get Beef to go out there.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: Fiddy said he didn't.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: He moved out of the area, though.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: She would have probably eaten it up.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Her personality, she would have thought it was great.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Let's do it second date. Let's send somebody in there
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: to act like you're a big radio star.
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: People are laughing at Fiddy that we couldn't talk about
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: this two days ago. I just said, are we girls, Ben?
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: And Fiddy said, yes, y'all will be there. Two days later,
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: Finney's giving wedding plans. Yeah, this dude says, what happened
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: to Mac not talking about the date? He's now talking
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: about a wedding.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Well, it's only because I don't have many friends. I
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: have Flound, NASCAR Brad, and my buddy Tanner that lives
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: in Texas.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: You got us, baby. You got all the listeners out there.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: They're all rooting for you. Are we going to let
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: the text line help plan the wedding also?
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: DJ Vinny, where you at, man? Vinny Esposito, where you at, buddy?
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: We need a DJ. He did a great job at P-Man's.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: He did, man.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, he had Jumpin' Joe Person out on that
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: dance floor, baby. Joe Person invited to the wedding.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely. He's got to lead the dance crew.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: I feel like all the regular Mac and Bone Show
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: guests will be there.
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: Will Conkle and his beautiful hair will be back. The
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: common man, Darren Gant. Stro will be there, right?
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: DVR Dave will do a Panthers roundtable.
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: Dressed as the Reaper.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: You know what, Finney? I promise you this.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: I hate to speak for another man, but Darren Gant
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: and I, if you do have a wedding, Darren Gant
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: and I will even get haircuts for it.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: All right? I'm sorry, Darren, if you think I overstepped
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: the boundaries. I can't wait until the toast at Finney's wedding.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you something right now. This man here.
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: He's going to be married for 35 months and 17 days.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: He's only got him married for three years.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Our boss, Colin, texted him. This sounds like when y'all
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: were planning the parade route.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: What could go wrong? Oh, that's a good point, though, Colin.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: That's actually a very good point. That was Swain's fault.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: He was all hopped up on something. All right, man.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: By the way, let's get to the other. Where is
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: the second day going to be, by the way? Do
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: you know yet? Same place. It goes back to the
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: same place.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: Do you have a special second day place, or do
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: you usually not get to that date?
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: I told her about the Jersey Mike's routine, how Tuesday
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: is the gospel according to Jersey. She's down for Jersey Mike's.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: This girl's taking a date to Jersey Mike's? That's a test, Finny.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: She's testing you, bro.
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: She did not know about the show. Does she now
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: know about this whole thing?
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: No. I mean, she knows I work in radio.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: But she doesn't know that you weren't just hunting subs
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: at Jersey Mike's. So she doesn't know she's getting married yet.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: I don't know about that. Seriously, Fit, do not fall
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: for the, I'm willing to go to Jersey Mike's on
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: our second date.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Go upscale, baby. Go upscale.
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: Firehouse.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Firehouse.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: They are more expensive.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: All right. Let's get to the lesser random crap stories. Obviously,
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: Fitty's successful date.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: Who's going to wheel Granny Pat into Fitty's wedding? Is
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: that what somebody said?
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Dang, y'all.
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: Seriously.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: There's going to be more of it, right?
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Aren't you going to get a husband? All right.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Weatherman Mark.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: What do you think we're going to do? We're going
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: to do a wheel of cranny right out of the way. Oh,
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: my goodness. All right.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: Let's get to some of the other stories. Lonzo Ball
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: did admit Bone in a podcast. We will not play
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: this clip here, Fetty. I will just cut to the
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: chase that LaMelo in a new city, Bone, has finally
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: hired a driver.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: The folks from Minnesota. Great news for you in Minnesota.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: Doesn't do much for everybody in Charlotte that was affected
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: and scared by LaMelo when he drove here.
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he could hire a man, Matt, to drive his
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: car that is blind, and that might be a better
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: option than Mello driving in Minnesota.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: Please tell me, Bone, that he has learned his lesson,
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: that maybe I've got to ease my way out of.
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: The garage after days. Those icy winter days. Dude, do
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: not Mello. Don't pull out of that Lambo at Mach 1700.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: With an icy, bro.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: But he's got a driver. We're good now. He will
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: slide to Michigan up there. He's got a driver. Fiddy,
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: we have a request to be in the wedding party,
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: by the way, Fiddy.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Who's it from?
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Fiddy, I'm your friend, Weatherman Mark. I'm also your friend, Fiddy.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Every good wedding has a meteorologist. Bring the turbines, Weatherman.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: Every good wedding has a meteorologist. That's a Fiddyism right there.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: Can he do the best man speech? I say you
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: let him do the speech, Fiddy. Weatherman Mark.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: Shiver me timbers. I never thought this day would happen.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: Last story in random crap. Nick Saban told a funny
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: bone on the ABC affiliate in Birmingham. Nick Saban talking
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: about how he now plays bridge with his wife, Miss
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: Terry and the girls, her friends.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Listen to this.
• 44:23
  Speaker 9: So Miss Terry tells me, we'll teach you how to play.
• 44:26
  Speaker 9: I said, okay, teach me how to play. So they
• 44:28
  Speaker 9: taught me how to play. And they said, now you,
• 44:31
  Speaker 9: We're playing with these older ladies who are very southern.
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: Proper.
• 44:35
  Speaker 9: You know, proper folks. Terry says, can't talk. And I said,
• 44:43
  Speaker 9: I'm not playing if I can't talk. Now I got
• 44:48
  Speaker 9: all those prim and proper ladies talking.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: He livened up that bridge game, man. He loves the S-word,
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: doesn't he? That is his go-to word.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Isn't it?
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: He just drops that like you dropped an F-bomb on
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: the radio. I was just going to say how unprofessional.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: He cusses on the air all the time, and then
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: I don't remind him of yesterday's issue.
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: Mac, one guy that it'll be interesting to see if
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: Willie P ends up in Fitty's future wedding or not.
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: He's going to join us next. Also, is Willie P believing?
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: that this is going to go well for Fit. He's
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: always got thoughts. We'll talk Panthers. We'll talk FC. It's
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: Willie's World next on Sports Radio. NASCAR, George, do the speech.
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: It's Willie's World. Can be the reverend.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, they get that wedding over. I'm sorry. I shouldn't
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: have stopped. How long is that wedding going to go on?
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.