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Best of Ian Furness 9/25 · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go down a path that's... I need
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  Speaker 1: a Mariner thing, but I'm not... The playoffs, I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: We put them to rest yesterday. We played the funeral music.
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  Speaker 1: We're done. And I'll let you chime in, Ashley, as
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  Speaker 1: well here in a second. But I just want to...
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  Speaker 1: On a weekend that, from a baseball standpoint, is a
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  Speaker 1: nothing burger means nothing. And a weekend in which you're
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  Speaker 1: not playing meaningful games. So your final four games of
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  Speaker 1: the season end up being meaningless. You have your worst
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  Speaker 1: record in years.
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  Speaker 2: You.
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  Speaker 1: On the field, and I'll just use Joe Sheehan's words,
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  Speaker 1: but I think most Mariner fans would agree, it's the
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  Speaker 1: most disappointing baseball team in this century on the field
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  Speaker 1: in terms of results. There's a time and a place
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  Speaker 1: to get back to that. It'll be Monday for Molly
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  Speaker 1: Watt Monday, and whenever they decide whatever they're going to
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  Speaker 1: do with Dan, the coaching staff, if or anything's done
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  Speaker 1: with the front office, we'll get to that Monday and
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday next week. I just want to say thank you
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  Speaker 1: to Rick Riz. That's all I want to do. I
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  Speaker 1: want to say thank you to Rick Riz. In the
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  Speaker 1: broadcasting business, there are certain people that are different. A
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  Speaker 1: lot of people can call a game. A lot of people,
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  Speaker 1: and I do believe play-by-play, selfishly, I believe play-by-play is
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  Speaker 1: a craft, something that you have to have some unique
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  Speaker 1: talents inherent to you to do it well, but also
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  Speaker 1: something that is a craft that you work on And
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  Speaker 1: not everybody can do it at the highest levels. Not
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  Speaker 1: everyone can do it. A lot of people try. There's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people that are in our business of
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  Speaker 1: broadcasting that give it a go or are given opportunities.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, just look at ESPN over the years when
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  Speaker 1: they used to do the double Monday night football games
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  Speaker 1: and they'd throw whoever the host is in there and say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: go do play-by-play. Rich Eisen is a great example. Rich
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  Speaker 1: Eisen does a lot of European games. He is not
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  Speaker 1: a play-by-play guy. He's a great host. Just that's not
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  Speaker 1: his thing. It's hard to do. Baseball is a unique
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  Speaker 1: skill set. Because the storytelling, all the things you do
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  Speaker 1: in addition to calling the actual game, and I've done
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  Speaker 1: a lot of baseball, especially in Salt Lake. I did
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  Speaker 1: the AAA team a lot down there because we had
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  Speaker 1: a little trade-off. The AAA guy, when they did TV,
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  Speaker 1: I did radio. When we did hockey on TV in
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  Speaker 1: the season, he would do radio. So we had that
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  Speaker 1: little thing with the late, great Steve Klauke, and it
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  Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. I did baseball in Tri-Cities.
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  Speaker 1: I find it really difficult to do because the stops start.
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  Speaker 1: Every sport's unique. Football, very succinct. Down, distance, time, blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 1: Where's the ball? Basketball is continuously flowing. Hockey is different
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  Speaker 1: than all of the above. But baseball has to have
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  Speaker 1: a unique skill set. You have to call the game.
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  Speaker 1: You have to describe the action. You have to paint
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  Speaker 1: the picture. But you also have to be a storyteller.
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  Speaker 1: And no one was better than that than Dave.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But Rick was right there with him. And for 50 years,
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  Speaker 1: this baseball team has really not been very good on
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  Speaker 1: the field, six playoff appearances in 50 years. But for
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  Speaker 1: a good chunk of those 50 years, we have had
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  Speaker 1: the ability to be entertained on television and radio by
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  Speaker 1: two of the best ever, Dave and then Rick. Rick
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  Speaker 1: Riz and his voice, it's like whatever makes you happy
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  Speaker 1: at night, warm glass of milk, glass of wine, whatever
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  Speaker 1: it might be. He is that comforting voice and has
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  Speaker 1: been for so many years. I'm going to miss him.
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  Speaker 1: We're all going to miss him. I'm glad he's going
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  Speaker 1: out on his own terms. I'm glad he's able to
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  Speaker 1: go and enjoy time with his grandkids, travel when he
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  Speaker 1: wants to, as he said. But the thing with Rick
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  Speaker 1: is he was not only one of the best at
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  Speaker 1: calling a baseball game and underappreciated, I think, on a
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  Speaker 1: national scale, mostly because of Dave. And the little stint
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  Speaker 1: in Detroit didn't help replacing Ernie Harwell, but He's been
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  Speaker 1: one of the best in Major League Baseball. And we
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  Speaker 1: are lucky and blessed to have him. And then the
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  Speaker 1: work he does in the community, what he does to
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  Speaker 1: make this area better, cannot be overstated. He is truly
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  Speaker 1: a treasure for all of us in our community. One
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  Speaker 1: of the nicest people I've ever met. The day I
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  Speaker 1: walked into the building for the first time, a new
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  Speaker 1: guy here at KJR, he knew who I was, was great. gracious,
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  Speaker 1: so nice to this day. Uh, I'll tell a quick
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  Speaker 1: little story. My, uh, future son-in-law, if he ever gives
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  Speaker 1: her the damn ring, uh, and my daughter live in
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  Speaker 1: Issaquah and they go to Gilman village all the time.
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  Speaker 1: That's where his coffee shop is. And, um, Keegan ran
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  Speaker 1: into him a couple, it was about three, four weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: And he goes, Oh, Rick Riz is here. And he goes,
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  Speaker 1: I want to say hi, but I just can't. I go,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you right now. He's the most
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  Speaker 1: approachable guy in the world. Go say hi. Tell him,
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  Speaker 1: you know, me, whatever. And he says, he went up
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  Speaker 1: to me, he texts me later and he goes, I
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  Speaker 1: just talked to Rick for like 10 minutes. You have
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  Speaker 1: a coffee. I'm ordering a coffee for Brianni.
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  Speaker 4: Here we are.
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  Speaker 1: And he said, I told him who I was and,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, my relationship with your daughter. And he says,
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  Speaker 1: look down and goes, you take care of Ian's daughter.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, thank you. Thank you, Rick. But
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  Speaker 1: that's who he is. Even if you've ever met him,
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  Speaker 1: you feel like you know him and he treats you
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  Speaker 1: like that. Uh, sad weekend coming up. I'm mostly sad.
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  Speaker 1: as we all are, that he's not going to get
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  Speaker 1: a call World Series. That's not right. But that's also baseball.
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  Speaker 1: He'll be the first to admit that. That's baseball. This
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  Speaker 1: year went off the rails.
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  Speaker 5: That's sports.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to say thanks to Rick. Thank you, Rick,
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  Speaker 1: for everything, for making our summers better. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: miss the happy totals. Not nearly enough of those this year. Goodbye, baseball.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to miss as well. But we're going to
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  Speaker 1: miss you, Rick Rizzo. Enjoy your retirement. I'll let you
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  Speaker 1: have the final say here before.
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  Speaker 2: We get to a break.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to say too, it's so apparent
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  Speaker 3: how much he means to the players on the team
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  Speaker 3: and the organization as well. I mean, they went out
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  Speaker 3: of their way on that 50th anniversary weekend to make
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  Speaker 3: him feel so honored and his emotions were so.
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  Speaker 1: It was just great.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I cried the most when Rick was being
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  Speaker 3: honored because it was just so cool. And I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if you saw this, but Cal got the chest
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  Speaker 3: plate made with Rick and pictures of Rick with various
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  Speaker 3: players throughout the years. And the look on Rick's face
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  Speaker 3: when Cal was like, after I wear it, I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to put it on a frame for you.
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  Speaker 2: And Rick looked at me and goes, you're going to
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  Speaker 2: wear this?
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  Speaker 1: Like it. he's very humble.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It was like the idea that Cal would wear something
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  Speaker 3: of Rick all weekend long.
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  Speaker 2: And Cal was like, yes, I'm going to wear this
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  Speaker 2: all weekend. And then you get it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: It's just that I thought that interchange right there, exchange
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  Speaker 3: spoke volumes about him. And he's just, he's just a, a,
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  Speaker 3: one of a kind classy individual who we are so
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  Speaker 3: lucky to have representing our city here. And, and he
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  Speaker 3: has let us all be a part of his life too.
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  Speaker 3: He's gone through some very difficult things in his life
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  Speaker 3: and he doesn't shy away from it. And, and you
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  Speaker 3: do feel like he's part of your family cause he's
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  Speaker 3: in your house every all summer long, like in your house, on.
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  Speaker 1: Your car and everything else.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I it's, we're going to miss him. Uh, I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: he's sticking around. I can't wait for it. Player hall
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  Speaker 1: of fame things to me are almost a dime a dozen. Like,
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  Speaker 1: you know who's, okay, great. You're a Hall of Famer,
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  Speaker 1: Mariner Hall of Famer, whatever. But honoring him to me
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  Speaker 1: will mean more because he's us. He was a fan.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like, you know, a lot of these players that we've
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  Speaker 1: honored as Hall of Famers, you know, they went and
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  Speaker 1: played elsewhere. And he went for two years, but he
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  Speaker 1: came back.
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  Speaker 6: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: He's one of us. And I just, yeah, it's next year.
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  Speaker 1: I'm the same way. When he got honored that day,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, whoa. All the feels. What are you
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  Speaker 1: doing to me? All the feels. All the feels are
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  Speaker 1: coming right now. Yeah. Baseball gives and takes a lot.
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  Speaker 1: And in this town, it takes a lot from us.
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  Speaker 1: But what Rick gave us over all those years cannot
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  Speaker 1: be replicated. The five best things about the Mariners organization
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  Speaker 1: in 50 years, and I'm not a big Mount Rushmore guy,
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  Speaker 1: but Really, it's simple to me. It's Griffey, it's Ichiro,
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  Speaker 1: it's Edgar, it's Dave, and it's Rick. And the list
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  Speaker 1: ends there. Those are the five, those are really the
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  Speaker 1: only five things that matter to me in this baseball
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  Speaker 1: history until they win a World Series.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And unfortunately, we won't be with Rick behind the mic.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we'll take a break, come back. Greg Cosell, Seahawks, Commanders, Sunday, next.
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  Speaker 6: It's time for Egan's weekly visit with NFL Films' Greg Cosell,
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  Speaker 6: brought to you by Seattle Cider Company, on your home
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  Speaker 6: for the 12th man in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Sports Radio 93.3, KJR FM. All right, here we go.
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  Speaker 1: 12 o'clock hour on a Friday, Football Friday, and Greg
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  Speaker 1: Cosell joining us to talk all things Seahawks Commanders. He
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  Speaker 1: does this every week with us. We preview the games.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, I was just thinking this off the
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  Speaker 1: top of my head. I'm going to throw this out
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  Speaker 1: there before I get too far in. First of all, Greg,
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  Speaker 1: how are you, my friend?
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  Speaker 5: I'm doing great, Ian.
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  Speaker 2: How are you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm good.
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  Speaker 4: I'm good.
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  Speaker 1: You're looking good. Got the TV show taping. I can
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  Speaker 1: see with the suit on. That's perfect. You look fantastic.
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  Speaker 5: This morning yeah yeah all done yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Looking good go espn matchup show it's on like a
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  Speaker 1: zillion times now with the nfl network and all espn's
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: uh properties go check that out see see our guy
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  Speaker 1: greg on tv he looks good they put makeup on
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  Speaker 1: him he looks fantastic so uh go.
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  Speaker 5: Without that you know i don't look good so i
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  Speaker 5: need a lot of that i spend a lot of
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  Speaker 5: time in the makeup chair.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you're preaching the choir with me my friend uh
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  Speaker 1: the behind the scenes world that we live in. I
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  Speaker 1: just had to send a picture of the makeup we
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  Speaker 1: used last year for the reorder for our hockey this year.
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  Speaker 1: So my, my wife just, my wife just laughs at me.
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  Speaker 1: She goes, my husband wears more makeup than me. And
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  Speaker 1: I said, well, you know, that some of us need
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  Speaker 1: it more than others. That's all.
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  Speaker 4: Um, correct.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Let me, um, I want to bring this up just
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  Speaker 1: cause I was thinking about this. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned this to Ashley. I don't even know when
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  Speaker 1: the Seahawk bi-week is like week eight or 10 or
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: something like that. It's down the road.
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  Speaker 5: I can tell you in a sec, cause I got
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  Speaker 5: it here. Uh, They are not in a bye week
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  Speaker 5: until week 11.
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  Speaker 1: Week 11. That's the week we need to do the
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  Speaker 1: Greg Cosell, Hugh Millen think tank again, if you're up
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  Speaker 1: for that again.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: God, that was fun. That was so much fun. I
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: was telling somebody about that the other day, where the
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  Speaker 1: bye week, no game to talk about. It was Hugh
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  Speaker 1: and it was Greg. They're both part of that 33rd
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  Speaker 1: team and all that stuff. And I just say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: Greg's here, Hugh's here, and I just got the heck
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  Speaker 1: out of the way and let you guys talk football.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll do that again, all right?
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  Speaker 5: We can do that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm assuming he was going to be okay with it.
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  Speaker 1: I know he'll be good with it. Let's get to
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  Speaker 1: the game coming up this weekend. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: chatter about quarterbacks. Let's start first on the Seahawks side,
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  Speaker 1: we believe. We won't find out until probably about 40
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  Speaker 1: minutes from now or so when the first of the
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  Speaker 1: injury and practice reports comes out for the Seahawks. We
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  Speaker 1: are believing that Sam Darnold is going to play. He
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  Speaker 1: met with the media yesterday as the starting quarterback. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think they're playing any games. Mike Holmgren says, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this isn't something you'd be trotting him out there if
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't going to play. So we're expecting Darnold. He
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  Speaker 1: didn't make it definitively, but he thinks he's going to play.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like he's going to play. But you've watched
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  Speaker 1: Drew Locke the last couple weeks. What have you thought
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  Speaker 1: of number two for Seattle out there?
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  Speaker 5: He's played well, but the thing that has really stood
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  Speaker 5: out to me and again, you know, I assume it's
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  Speaker 5: likely a function of the new offensive coordinator, Brian Flurry,
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  Speaker 5: because of his background, but they've been a pretty heavy
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  Speaker 5: 21 and 22 personnel offense. They certainly were last week.
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  Speaker 5: Russell played 31 snaps, which was 44% of the offensive snaps. Um,
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  Speaker 5: And their 11 personnel percentage, meaning three wide receivers, in
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  Speaker 5: their first two games was only 32%. They played a
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  Speaker 5: slightly higher percentage versus the Patriots week one, but it
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  Speaker 5: really looks like they will be more of a base
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  Speaker 5: personnel offense. And, you know, that could well be the
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  Speaker 5: influence of Brian Fleury, as I said, and you know this,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm sure the audience does too. He came from
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  Speaker 5: the 49ers. where they played with Kyle Juszczyk for 10 years.
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  Speaker 5: And Juszczyk normally plays 40-plus percent of their offensive snaps
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  Speaker 5: in San Francisco.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if that is as much of– I understand
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  Speaker 1: what you're saying about Brian Fleury's influence. I wonder– I'm
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  Speaker 1: wondering this out loud, Greg. I'm wondering– how much of
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  Speaker 1: that maybe has to do with just the fact that
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  Speaker 1: the Seahawks kind of right now have Jackson Smith and Jigba,
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  Speaker 1: but not a lot else on the outside. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Cooper cups, you know, at the end of his career,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's just,
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  Speaker 1: it's not, there's not a lot there right now.
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  Speaker 5: Well, they still have Shahid, right. And granted he's not
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  Speaker 5: likely to be a volume target, but he certainly has
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  Speaker 5: juice and he certainly presents concerns for a defense, um,
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  Speaker 5: By the way, saying things out loud, I do that
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  Speaker 5: a lot at home. And then my wife always says,
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  Speaker 5: are you talking to me? And, you know, so I
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  Speaker 5: do the same thing when it comes to football. I
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  Speaker 5: just say stuff out loud and I'm really not talking
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  Speaker 5: to anybody at home. But we'll see. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 5: Cup is obviously not what he was a number of
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  Speaker 5: years ago, you know, going back to when he won
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  Speaker 5: the Triple Crown and the year surrounding that. And Shaheed,
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  Speaker 5: like I said, is not a volume target per se,
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  Speaker 5: but it's not as if they're total stiffs. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: they can line up an 11 personnel and present some
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  Speaker 5: problems for a defense. So we'll see. I mean, uh, look, I,
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  Speaker 5: I guess, uh, I guess to Jerry and prices is
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  Speaker 5: banged up a little. I don't know what his status
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  Speaker 5: will be for this week.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's going to play.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It looks like he's going to play.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: They ran the ball more down the stretch, obviously with
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  Speaker 5: Emmanuel Wilson. I mean, that was, you know, that's the
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  Speaker 5: way that game played out. I don't think Emmanuel Wilson's
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  Speaker 5: going to get, um, you know, 21 carries every week,
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  Speaker 5: although it was mighty impressive in that they got the
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  Speaker 5: ball with 11 and a half minutes remaining and they
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  Speaker 5: put together a 16-play TD drive that ate up more
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  Speaker 5: than 10 minutes of clock and that Wilson rushed six
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  Speaker 5: consecutive times in the middle of the drive. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: you can't draw that up any better than that. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: that's the way you want to close out a game. But,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I guess we'll see. One other thing I
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  Speaker 5: want to mention. which I thought really stood out to me,
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  Speaker 5: and I don't know what their plan is going forward.
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  Speaker 5: It's two weeks in, so you don't really know. Number one,
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  Speaker 5: I thought the offensive line, I thought, played really well
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  Speaker 5: in the run game. I mean, I've just really been impressed.
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  Speaker 5: We've talked about them before. I'm really impressed with Sundell,
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  Speaker 5: the center. Zabel is a really good football player. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: they're both athletic offensive linemen who can work effectively to
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  Speaker 5: the second level. They can track and block linebackers in
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  Speaker 5: the run game. Sundell has outstanding snap-to-step quickness off the ball.
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  Speaker 5: And I got to tell you, I thought that the
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  Speaker 5: rookie from Iowa, because he played meaningful snaps, because I
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  Speaker 5: don't know what Bradford's status is, but obviously they rotated
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  Speaker 5: a bit at right guard with Haynes and Stevens. I
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  Speaker 5: thought he looked really good. I mean, I was very
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  Speaker 5: impressed with his take.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: We can stay there just for a second. They put
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: Bradford on the injured list, so he's going to miss
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: four games. Oh, there you go. It sort of still
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: feels like they want to rotate Haynes and Stevens, but
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: I want to go back. I'm interested to hear. You
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: really like Stevens. Just a little background, Greg. Bo Stevens,
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: the fifth-round pick out of Iowa. He was in training camp.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: he really, when we watched, you know, we were out
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: there for every practice in, in training camp, he never
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: really got elevated up past the third team. Like he was,
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: he was never a second, never got first team reps.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: So for him to come in and play as well,
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: like you said, I think you said the same thing
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: on Monday. You liked what you saw from both Stevens.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: That's a good sign.
• 15:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: And again, you don't want to necessarily be in a
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: position of, of, uh, doing what you're doing and rotating
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: offensive linemen in one position. I don't think any team
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: wants to do that. And again, it's one game. I'm
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: not going to sit here and say he should now
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: be the guy who's playing. I'm not there every day.
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: I wasn't there throughout the whole offseason. So they know
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: a lot more than I do, Ian, and I would
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: not presume that I know more. All I'm doing is
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: coming into my office here at Films and watching tape.
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: And I think Stevens is I liked his tape more
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: than Haynes' tape this past week. I wouldn't say one
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: guy was a 10 and one guy was a 3.
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: I just like Stevens more. That doesn't mean a whole
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: lot other than that's all it means, that I liked
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: his tape more in this last game.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: I like it, though, because that's a good sign for
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: this team moving ahead. It's Greg Cosell checking in every week,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: NFL Films ESPN matchup show. All right, on the other
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: side of the ball, what are they going to see
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: with this? Dan Quinn, Washington Commanders defense. I should point
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: out it looks like Frankie Luvu is going to miss
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: the game. He has not played practice this week. They're
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: listing him as out. Sonny Stiles, the first-round pick out
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: of Iowa State, another linebacker. They're pretty good inside with
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Payne and Kinlaw. So what are we expecting to see
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: with this Dan Quinn-led Commanders defense?
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: Well, it's actually, it's interesting you say that because it's
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: a little bit more of a Durante Jones-led defense, and
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: he came from the Brian Flores School in Minnesota. This
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: is a team that blitzes a lot. They play very aggressively.
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: The problem is at the corner position, and that's a
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: concern because the corner that they really wanted to be
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: their number one corner was Trey Amos, and I believe
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: he's on IR, so I don't believe he's playing this week. So,
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: you know, they're kind of stuck a little bit at
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: the corner position, and that's a little bit of a problem.
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: But they are an aggressive defense, which always can pose
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: problems just because those kinds of defenses, as you know,
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: if they catch you right, they can make plays because
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: that aggression at times can be a problem. But they're
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: not a strong defense overall in terms of personnel. But again,
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: what that means, that's always hard to know because I
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: don't think the Seahawks in an ideal world given the
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: completeness of their team, Ian, and you tell me if
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: I'm wrong, you're there, but this is just my sense,
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: you know, having gotten a feel for Mike McDonald over
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: these last couple of years. And I think the way
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: he'd ideally like to play and it kind of showed
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: up last week against the cards. They're not a throw
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: ball team. They're not going to, you know, now every
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: game is different. I know that. And who knows what
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: will happen this week, but I don't think ideally, that
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: they want to come out and have Sam Donald drop
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: back 40 times by choice. I don't think that's the
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: way they ultimately want to play. Wouldn't you agree with that?
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I would 100% agree with it. It just goes back to,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, they've got the best, at least in
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: terms of last year, offensive player of the year and
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: what he's done so far this year, one of the
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: best wide receivers in football in Jackson Smith and Jigba.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: And so they've got that going for them. But yeah,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I think what you saw, you mentioned it earlier, I
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: think what we saw at the start of the game
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: or the end of the game against Arizona, let's just
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: run it down your throat. That's Mike McDonald's style. He
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: wants to play tough guy football. He wants to kind
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: of exert his will on him, and I think that's
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: what they'd like to do.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: I mean, every coach wants to score on every try.
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: We know that. That's not a profound thing to say.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: But I don't think their goal is to come out
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: and just toss it all over the yard as the
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: means of scoring. No. I think they want to establish
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: a physicality, a toughness, You know, this is a four-quarter game.
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: We're more physical than you are, and they wear you down.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, look at last week.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was.
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: 14-7 in the third quarter. Was it 7-7 at the half,
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: I believe?
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 7-7 at the half, yeah, yeah.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I don't think, look, obviously you'd like to
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: be winning. I'm not saying that that's okay, but I
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: don't think they view that as a negative, like, oh,
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: my God, it's only 7-7. I think they see the
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: game as a four-quarter battle of attrition, and they're going
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: to win the battle of attrition.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: I totally agree. It is Greg Cosell. Let's just real
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: quick before I go to the other side of football.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I always like, we watch the highlights. We watch the game.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: People see number 11 for Seattle, Jackson Smith and Jigba
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: doing his thing out there. You're studying the tape. What
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: are the nuances? What does the tape say about what
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: you see from what this guy does? Because it just
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: seems like every week there's more of a wow factor
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: with him.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: Is he the wide receiver that's pretty good, by the way,
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: that's on Seattle?
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: He's okay. He he's just okay.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah yeah I mean he's ridiculously good you know
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: he's one of those guys I mean I'm not going
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: to add anything to the discourse on Smith and Jigba
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: I mean you know it's uh they do some really
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: good obviously that first touchdown I have no idea what
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: what you know, happened on that play. Cause obviously that
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: was not supposed to happen the way it happened. And
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: I couldn't tell you what they were supposed to do.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: I don't know the answer to that. I watched the
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: play 10 times. I mean, the corner Johnson just let
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: him run by him clear. I mean, if you're doing that,
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: unless you just went brain dead, you're clearly expecting help
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: over the top, but the safety Booter Baker, who's obviously
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: been a very smart, savvy player, his entire career, he
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: stayed inside and low. So it just became pitch and catch.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: What really stood out to me on that play, too,
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: by the way, was left guard Zabel had unbelievably good
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: one-on-one pass protection versus D-tackle Walter Nolan. But that doesn't
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: surprise me because Zabel's a really, really good player. I mean,
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: you can start going through every single play with Smith
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: and Jigba. You know, based on what you said earlier,
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: you wonder why more teams don't necessarily bracket him or
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: double him, whatever they want to do. You know, but
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: I think they do a nice job with how they
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: get him matched up on people. I mean, Think of
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: his 12-yard touchdown early in the fourth quarter on third down.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: They went empty. And, you know, Smith and Jigba was
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: number three to trips. And for people who don't know
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: what that means, that means he's closest to the formation.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: The way wide receivers are numbered, it's from the outside in.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: So he was closest to the formation at number three.
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: And so they got him matched on a safety. You
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: can do that with, you know, your formations. You know,
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: they got him matched on Baker and he beat him
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: on the in-cut. I mean, you know, look, The Seahawks
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: also know that teams might try to do things and
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: they have responses as well. That's why great receivers do
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: catch a lot of balls. Yes, there are teams and
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: times when teams do try to double or bracket or
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: set their defense for a great receiver. But the great
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: receivers at times still win those kinds of things, Ian.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I love that. Greg Cosell joining us. All right, flip
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: to the other side of the football. As we speak now,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: we're waiting for the next half hour or so to
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: maybe get some more definitive word on Julian Love's status.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Did not practice yesterday. Surprise to us. If he doesn't go,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: we would expect it to be Rodney Thomas because Okada
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: is still out along with A.J. Finley back there. They're
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: going to see a backup quarterback, Marcus Mariota, because Jayden
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Daniels is out. What do we see with Marcus Mariota?
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, look, you can line up and play with him, obviously.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: I mean, he's played started a lot of games in
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: the NFL. He's certainly not as dynamic as he once was.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: You know, it's almost hard to know how they would
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: go about playing this game. You know, they don't really
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: have a true number one back. I can only give
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: you my personal interpretation. I would think that given Mariota
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: being there, that you might see more Katron Allen, the
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: rookie from Penn State, who's a grinder and a sustainer. And,
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: you know, he can turn a three-yard run into a
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: six-yard run. And in this game, they need that. You know,
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: they have to find a way to sustain offense. I mean,
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: this Seahawks defense, now they have a legit four-man D-tackle
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: rotation because Riley Mills is showing up on tape. And
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: you've probably noticed it as well. I mean, he's making plays.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: He's controlling and displacing interior alignment, making plays in the
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: run game. I mean, I really loved his tape at
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: Notre Dame. Unfortunately, until he hurt his ACL his last year.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: But now they have a true four-man D-line rotation, D-tackle rotation.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: We see what they do with Williams and Lawrence. Tremendous versatility.
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: They're starting to do some more creative things. Standing up
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: Byron Murphy. You know, I mean, you can see that McDonald,
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: that the wheels are turning. And, you know, he's just
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: got really good people. Every time I watch their defense,
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: I come away going, God, Drake Thomas is a really
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: good football player.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: I watch.
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: I watch what they do with their fronts. They're really
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: good at setting their fronts so that there's a gap
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: that's available, particularly when they're in nickel, so that there's
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: a gap available for either Witherspoon to shoot through or
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: Thomas to shoot through. And they do that with the
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: way they set their fronts. So they're just, you know,
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: they're not like a glitzy defense. Like they're not a
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: high percentage blitz. They play almost predominantly out of a
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: too high safety structure and You know, they don't do
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: a ton of stuff in the way you think of
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: a ton of stuff. But I said to one of
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: my guys in the matchup show that there has to
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: be so much more there because I wouldn't call their
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: defense vanilla. But yet they don't blitz a lot and
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: they don't play a ton of, you know, single high.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: But there's got to be a lot more there that,
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: you know, I'd have to be in the meeting rooms
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: to know that.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: But.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: They're so disciplined. I mean, they play with tremendous discipline
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: on the defensive side of the ball.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Greg Cosell joining us. Nicky Minori only played a handful
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: of snaps last week, but he has been a full
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: participant all week. They're expecting, and he's telling everybody, he's
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: expecting to play a lot more.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: They'll go back to their big nickel. And now that
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: means they'll probably play dime because they've hardly played dime
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: the first two weeks because they haven't had him in
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: worry out there. And by the way, there's nothing wrong
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: with the way Pritchard's been playing at the field corner position.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: So I'm sure they're okay with that. So they'll go
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: back to dime and they'll go back to their big
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: nickel because they've been playing, you know, they've been playing
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: some 5-2 base. They've been playing some 4-3 base with Knight.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: My guess is now you'll see, you might still see
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: a 5-2, but I don't think you'll see the 4-3
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: with Knight. I think it'll be big nickel with them
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: in Warwick.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: So they list Imanwari as a safety. If someone just
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: came up to you, walked into your office right now
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: and says, Greg, what's Nick Imanwari? What position does he play?
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: How would you answer that?
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: Well, it's multiple depending on the offensive formation. He's a
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: slot player. He's an overhang player. He's a Sam linebacker.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: I mean, he's a multiple position player. You know, there's,
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: you know, Derwin James is like that. There's not 20
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: guys in the league like that. And that's what makes
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: these guys so special and important to a defense. Because
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: don't forget, you're quote-unquote nickel. Let's just designate him as
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: that for the moment. Depending on your defensive front, there
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: are times that player has a B-gap responsibility in the
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: run game, which is why you're not seeing nickels the
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: way we used to, who are like Mike Hilton, who
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: are 5'9, 180 pounds. Because they have to have a
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: B gap at times, not all the time, but there
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: are times. So, you know, even someone like Witherspoon is
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: not sick, you know, he's not the size of Emanuari,
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: but he is a physical competitor. I mean, he can
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: play the, there's no problem. with Witherspoon and the physicality
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: required to play the run. But if you can't do that,
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: it's hard for a team to really put that kind
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: of smaller nickel out there.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt. Yeah, I think we're looking forward
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: to seeing some more No. 3 out there just because
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: of versatility. There was a play last week. I talked
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: about it on Monday with Hugh. It was a big
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: third down play, and Eamon Worry was basically lined up
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: as an edge rusher. And they had to keep Trey
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: McBride in to block him. So you just took your
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: best offensive weapon off the field because of number three.
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, Eamon Worry is just, you know, it's funny.
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: I probably told you this, but I remember, you know,
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: studying South Carolina's defense when they had two or three
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: guys coming out and Eamon Worry.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Was a freshman. Okay.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: And I didn't know, I didn't even know who he was.
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: And I'm watching South Carolina's defense because I usually try
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: to get through six, seven, eight games. You know, when
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: I watch these players for the draft, as you know,
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: and I'm seeing this safety, and I'm going, who is
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: this guy? And, you know, he was playing pretty much
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: traditional safety, obviously, in South Carolina. I looked him up,
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: and I saw he was a true freshman. I said,
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: I just sort of made a note that I wanted
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: to be aware of this guy because he was really
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: good as a freshman in college.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Apparently, John Schneider made a note, too.
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, apparently. Yeah, so if he's healthy, you know, I mean,
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: it doesn't mean he'll play 100% of the snaps, but
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: I'm sure they'll go back to being you know, what they,
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: I think, want to be.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: What's on the matchup show this week?
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: The matchup show is, you know, there's good games. I mean, and,
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: you know, what we try to do a lot early
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: in the season is teams that, you know, we don't
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: know how a season's going to play out. Like, we're
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: doing the Raiders at the Saints this week. I mean,
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: I'm sure it wasn't on your bingo card that the
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: two highest passing yard totals in the NFL through two
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: weeks are– Tyler Shuck and Bryce Young. That probably wasn't
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: on your bingo card, Ian, I would imagine.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: So I did a piece on Tyler Shuck this week.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: I really like him a lot. So we've got the Chargers, Bills, Eagles, Bears, Ravens, Cowboys, Rams, Broncos, Cards, 49ers,
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: and Bengals, Steelers. And who would have thought that the Bengals,
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: I don't know if you play them this year, But
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: the Bengals' defense, believe it or not, has been incredibly
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: good through two games.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think Seattle sees them, which is fine.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's struggling. People in Seattle love that because we're still
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: bitter from that Super Bowl back with Mike Holmgren in
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: his era. So that's all good for us. What do
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: they say? Who, dad or don't? Whatever their thing is in...
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. Go get them. Buddy, great stuff as always.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Love you. We'll talk to you next week. We'll be
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: watching the matchup show. NFL Network, all ESPN. Cosell's got
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: the good looking, he's got the nice patterned shirt, black
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: suit going on today. Looking good. That's an A-plus effort
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: on the attire, my friend.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: I appreciate that really well. At least from the neck down,
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: maybe I look okay.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we won't talk about waist down. I go jeans
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: most of the time if people can't see it. Nobody
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: needs to know that, so that's all good. So, hey,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: great stuff. We'll talk to you next week, Greg. Take care.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: Thanks.
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: Appreciate it.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: That's Greg Cosell. Danny O'Neill coming up in the 1
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  Speaker 1: More on them in a moment. Hello, Danny O'Neill. How
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  Speaker 1: are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm good.
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  Speaker 4: How are you, Ian? Good.
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  Speaker 1: Always hear your voice on a Friday. It's always good
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  Speaker 1: to hear that. There's a lot to discuss. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: to Graham Bensinger. We'll get to the Seahawks on the field,
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  Speaker 1: the dark side, all that fun stuff. Let me start here, though.
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  Speaker 1: I just brought this up with Ashley a minute ago.
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  Speaker 4: You.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe me, Ashley, I think maybe some people that are
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  Speaker 1: more media people probably look at it differently than maybe
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  Speaker 1: a fan who doesn't do this for a living. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be condescending. I'm not trying to
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  Speaker 1: be that. That just sounds like a condescending. What a
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  Speaker 1: dipstick I am. Anyway, I asked the question for the Mariners.
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  Speaker 1: What do you want to see happen over the next
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  Speaker 1: four days? Let's assume Dan's out. Do you want to
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  Speaker 1: hear he was fired or does it matter, number one?
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  Speaker 1: And number two, the entire coaching staff out? Number three,
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  Speaker 1: what about Jerry and Justin? What do you want to
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  Speaker 1: see and hear happen?
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  Speaker 4: I would like to hear that Dan resigned and kind
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  Speaker 4: of everybody recognizes this just isn't the right fit going forward.
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  Speaker 4: I don't have any preference about the coaching staff. I
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  Speaker 4: don't think that this season can be attributed to the
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  Speaker 4: instruction that players received.
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  Speaker 2: If the new.
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  Speaker 4: Manager wants to have his own guys in here, I'm
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  Speaker 4: fine with that. I don't have a strong feeling about that.
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  Speaker 4: It's tough to answer for the front office because I
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  Speaker 4: think it's a defensible and rational argument to say, hey,
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  Speaker 4: given the operational constraints, the payroll that this team has afforded,
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  Speaker 4: the guys that are in there do a good job
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  Speaker 4: of putting a good team on the field that contends
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  Speaker 4: for playoff berths, usually not this year, and has the
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  Speaker 4: possibility of catching fire in the postseason and getting to
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  Speaker 4: a World Series, which we came close to last year.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's a defensible position. My position is I'd
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  Speaker 4: like someone else to drive. I think that this year
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  Speaker 4: reflected some of the difficulties that they've had culturally within
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  Speaker 4: the organization. I think that this franchise is screaming out
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  Speaker 4: for a different strong voice and maybe getting sort of
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  Speaker 4: a real hardline manager is enough to do that. But this,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's 10 years now and two playoff berths.
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  Speaker 4: It would be my preference that somebody else got to drive.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, our thoughts were much the same. I think for Dan,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the best thing would be just whether it's
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  Speaker 1: pregame on Sunday or postgame Sunday. Hell, maybe it's even today.
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  Speaker 1: I'm managing my last game or I'm done. What if
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  Speaker 1: he does it after Sunday? But, you know, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: stepping down. It's time for someone else. I think I'd
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  Speaker 1: like to see that just for him. You know, like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think we need to, I mean, I know
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people want guys fired, and that maybe
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  Speaker 1: makes you feel a little bit better for a moment,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't, what's the difference? The end result's the same.
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  Speaker 1: He's not coming back. We all understand that. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and Dan Wilson is all things Mariner Hall of Fame, right? So,
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  Speaker 1: that part of it. The coaching staff, I would differ
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  Speaker 1: with you there. I think they just need a clean start.
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  Speaker 1: I just think, just turf them all. I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: some of the pettiness we heard from some of the
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  Speaker 1: coaches this year, they're yelling at, you know, blaming the
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  Speaker 1: media for things. There's a couple guys, and You know,
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  Speaker 1: here's the thing. The defense was the worst defense in
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  Speaker 1: the league. So Perry Hill, maybe you're not a genius.
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  Speaker 1: Manny Acta, a lot of people thought he should have
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  Speaker 1: been the manager anyway, but they didn't make him the
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  Speaker 1: manager then. They're certainly not going to do it now.
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  Speaker 4: Move on.
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  Speaker 1: Pete Woodward, to me, the pitching coach, and there's two
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  Speaker 1: of them, and there's three hitting coaches. I guess there's
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  Speaker 1: only two. Well, no, they brought the other guy up.
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  Speaker 1: There's three hitting coaches. Hitting was awful. Starting rotation was bad.
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  Speaker 1: I think he just– I like a clean start with
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  Speaker 1: the pitching stuff. You go back to Jerry and Justin
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  Speaker 1: in the front office. I tend to lean towards you.
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  Speaker 1: Ashley and I had the same conversation a few minutes ago.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not really, I don't have a massively strong feeling
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  Speaker 1: one way or the other because there's part of me
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  Speaker 1: that still looks at the roster and says, hey, you
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  Speaker 1: put a pretty good product out there, they just didn't perform.
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  Speaker 1: And sometimes it's on the players, right? Or the manager
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  Speaker 1: on the field. At the same time, for every good
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  Speaker 1: move you've made and good draft pick you've made and
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  Speaker 1: what have you, good trade you've made, well, there's the
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  Speaker 1: Rob Refsnyders and the A.J. Pollocks and the Colton Wongs
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  Speaker 1: and then, oh, by the way, you went and traded
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  Speaker 1: for a Taylor ward who ended up being the worst
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  Speaker 1: player in baseball over the last two months of the season. Like,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't know. I I'm, I guess I'm torn there, Danny.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think it's fair to say that, that I would,
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  Speaker 4: I would say like for me, one of the things
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  Speaker 4: I look at is that you you've got that finger
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  Speaker 4: pointing that you mentioned kind of the media being the problem. Well,
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  Speaker 4: in some ways that's a reflection of the tone that's
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  Speaker 4: been set from the top of the baseball operations on
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  Speaker 4: down that that's how I feel. In Jerry's defense, he's
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  Speaker 4: done a pretty good job of overall turning around the
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  Speaker 4: franchise that he inherited, and they are in much better
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  Speaker 4: position than they were 10 years ago. But whether it's
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  Speaker 4: sort of looking at players like Widgets and not communicating
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  Speaker 4: with them, I do think that there's been a toll
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  Speaker 4: on their baseball culture.
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  Speaker 1: That's Widgets.
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  Speaker 4: Get out there and do your job. I mean, there's a,
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  Speaker 4: it's a people business. Like I do, I do believe that. And,
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  Speaker 4: and you, and you're right. You can look at this
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  Speaker 4: season and say, Hey, when you're three best hitters, the
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  Speaker 4: three guys that you've paid for, who, by the way,
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  Speaker 4: we were all on board to pay Cal Raleigh, Josh Naylor,
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  Speaker 4: and Julio Rodriguez, when all of them have substandard years,
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  Speaker 4: how's that on the GM? Like, I think that's a
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  Speaker 4: pretty valid argument. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: On the, on the flip side, I would say like, man,
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  Speaker 4: When things start to go bad and you don't have
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  Speaker 4: ways to be able to– there's no one internally that's
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  Speaker 4: able to stem the tide and get people to be
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  Speaker 4: moving in a positive direction. I think some of that
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  Speaker 4: reflects the culture that's been built and that might pervade
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  Speaker 4: the baseball operations.
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  Speaker 1: I would tend to agree. Daniel O'Neill joining us. By
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  Speaker 1: the way, Mike McDonald just moments ago speaking on Friday
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  Speaker 1: after their walkthrough. Julian Love is indeed out for the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: He will not play. So Rodney Thomas and A.J. Finley
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  Speaker 1: are your starting safeties since Eamon Ward is more of
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  Speaker 1: a strong linebacker. They're your starting safeties this week, so
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  Speaker 1: note Julian Love. Good news is Sam Darnold off the
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  Speaker 1: injury report Sam Darnold will play on Sunday against the
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  Speaker 1: Washington Commanders and start against the Commanders. So that's the latest.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to the Seahawks on the field in just
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  Speaker 1: a second. Danny O'Neill joining us before I move off
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  Speaker 1: the Mariners. We've all had kind of our say. Rick
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  Speaker 1: Riz is saying goodbye after 41 years on the mic
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  Speaker 1: here in Seattle, 50-plus overall in baseball. What do you
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  Speaker 1: want to say about Rick?
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  Speaker 4: We all.
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  Speaker 4: Would be lucky to love our job as much as
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  Speaker 4: Rick Riz loved his. And the actual joy that Rick
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  Speaker 4: conveyed behind the mic is, I'm envious of someone who
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  Speaker 4: was able to see the world as positively as he did,
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  Speaker 4: but I also think that he spread that optimism and
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  Speaker 4: that happiness. We're lucky in Seattle to have had as
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  Speaker 4: many tremendous voices as, as we've had from knee house
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  Speaker 4: to Rabel to, to Bob Rondo. Like there have been
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  Speaker 4: some incredible, incredible and guys that are there now too,
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  Speaker 4: but I've always Rick Riz is just sunny disposition. And
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  Speaker 4: the fact of how he made this place, his home is,
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  Speaker 4: and really carried on Dave's legacy in a lot of
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  Speaker 4: ways is really, really special. And I'm glad he's, what
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  Speaker 4: do the kids say? I'm glad he's getting his flowers.
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  Speaker 4: I'm glad that that happens because in today's world where
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  Speaker 4: workers are treated increasingly as disposable widgets, it's great to
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  Speaker 4: celebrate someone who's had a tremendous run, and Riz certainly has.
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  Speaker 1: He's just a treasure, man. Absolutely a treasure. Daniel Neal
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  Speaker 1: joining us. On the other side of the broadcast spectrum...
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  Speaker 1: We've got a guy named Graham Bensinger.
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  Speaker 4: Who?
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  Speaker 1: Well, if you're watching Mariners games on Root for the
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  Speaker 1: last few years, before they transitioned and made their way
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  Speaker 1: from Root Sports to their own little streaming channel, you
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  Speaker 1: would see these promos all the time. Graham Bensinger, and
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  Speaker 1: we joked about it on the air a lot, actually,
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  Speaker 1: over the years. Like, who the hell is Graham Bensinger?
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  Speaker 1: Why does he have these big names and just some
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  Speaker 1: syndicated show? And I don't know, my guess, he felt very,
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  Speaker 1: you know what he felt like? He felt very Jordan
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  Speaker 1: Schultz-like to me. You know, like Howard's kid who is
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  Speaker 1: kind of an insider, but really, for being honest, he
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  Speaker 1: pays for guys. He gives guys gifts, lets them stay
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  Speaker 1: in a penthouse suite in New York. He kind of...
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  Speaker 1: he bribes guys for information and stuff and it's the
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  Speaker 1: Schultz way, I guess. But anyway, he, but Benziger kind
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  Speaker 1: of feels that way too. Like, who are you and why, like,
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  Speaker 1: why are you getting that interview and not, you know, A,
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  Speaker 1: B or C that actually is a journalist or a
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  Speaker 1: bigger name? Well, he got to sit down for some
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  Speaker 1: reason with Mike McDonald in McDonald's house. I give him
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  Speaker 1: credit for that. And we all know the story this week.
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  Speaker 1: And then the, the, got published. I'll, I'll let you
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  Speaker 1: have a, I know you wrote about this this week
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  Speaker 1: as well in the dang apostrophe at Danny, Greg Bell
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  Speaker 1: found out and talked about it on his show earlier.
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  Speaker 1: You know how Ben Singer released a statement. They gave
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  Speaker 1: the Seahawks an opportunity and all this stuff. They, he
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  Speaker 1: sent a link to, to the PR staff and basically
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  Speaker 1: gave him like 20 minutes to look at it. And
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  Speaker 1: if he didn't hear back, he just went, went with it.
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  Speaker 1: So like he lied about that too. I mean, so
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  Speaker 1: the whole thing's greasy, but how would you describe the
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  Speaker 1: Graham Bensinger, Mike McDonald incident?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I thought the interview itself was really good. And
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  Speaker 4: the one thing, cause I have similar feelings about, about
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  Speaker 4: Graham Bensinger and his background, like the first, the way
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  Speaker 4: he rose to notoriety was he, He's the one that
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  Speaker 4: interviewed Terrell Owens in 2005 that got Terrell suspended, where
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  Speaker 4: he complained about the Eagles not adequately celebrating one of
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  Speaker 4: his accomplishments. He had an internet radio show then, and
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  Speaker 4: that's kind of been something that launched this career. Look,
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  Speaker 4: I have a lot of admiration for people who kind
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  Speaker 4: of forge their own route, and he's done that with
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  Speaker 4: syndicated radio– or syndicated television interviews that air during rain
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  Speaker 4: delays for the most part. Like, I think that's a
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  Speaker 4: big part of that. But, like, I like long-form interviews,
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  Speaker 4: and I thought it was interesting the things that McDonald said,
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  Speaker 4: especially about dealing with what very much sounded like depression.
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  Speaker 4: And I– I think that's awesome that those discussions are happening.
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  Speaker 4: As soon as I saw the Sean Payton clip, the
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  Speaker 4: immediate reaction was like, oh, that's an awesome story. But instantaneously,
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  Speaker 4: I was like, I'll bet Mike did not expect that
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  Speaker 4: to go out. Even before I started looking at the
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  Speaker 4: lighting or the cues for it, I probably thought, initially
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  Speaker 4: thought maybe he just got too comfortable. Maybe he just,
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  Speaker 4: the interview had gone on so long. But then when
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  Speaker 4: you looked at it, you're like, oh, I don't think
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  Speaker 4: he knew. And that brings up a different question of,
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  Speaker 4: and for me as a journalist, or when I was
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  Speaker 4: doing journalism, it's, I think it's fair, the person you're
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  Speaker 4: talking to should know what's on the record and off
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  Speaker 4: the record. And I've seen in the past, few days,
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  Speaker 4: all sorts of people saying, well, if you don't declare
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  Speaker 4: it's off the record, then it's on the record. And
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  Speaker 4: you're like, yeah, some people handle it that way. But
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  Speaker 4: when you start getting into these very blurry situations where
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  Speaker 4: you're sending an interview for approval to the team, like
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  Speaker 4: that's not normal. And then the fact that they didn't object,
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  Speaker 4: you take as a green light to publish whatever you want.
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  Speaker 4: But then when it becomes an issue, you're like, man,
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  Speaker 4: something about this whole process clearly was confusing to the
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  Speaker 4: people involved. And it's never a good thing when you're
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  Speaker 4: a journalist and the person that you've talked to ends
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  Speaker 4: up feeling that you hosed them, that you aired them out.
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  Speaker 4: And even if it's not your fault at all, that's
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  Speaker 4: usually a good sign that something went screwy along the way.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 1: The whole on-the-record, off-the-record, there's... There's assumptions, and you're not rolling.
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  Speaker 1: You don't think you're rolling. I know it's a hot mic,
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  Speaker 1: and there's been those that have complained and said, well,
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  Speaker 1: McDonald this and McDonald that. It's a casual conversation you're having,
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  Speaker 1: and it's going to be taped when you do the interview.
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  Speaker 1: You have active people around the set setting things up,
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  Speaker 1: moving lights and cameras around and doing all that. The
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  Speaker 1: assumption is that that's off the record. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: that that's just, that's just, it's assumed it's, it's understood.
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  Speaker 1: You shouldn't have to say it, you know, and Mike's
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  Speaker 1: just trying to break the ice and, and, you know,
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  Speaker 1: get things loosened up, which I appreciate as someone that's,
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  Speaker 1: we've all done interviews and long form interviews. I appreciate
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  Speaker 1: the fact he did that. You know, like we, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we tape interviews. You did the same thing when you
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: were in radio, when you were across the street, we,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: we pre-tape just because of show schedules and guest schedules,
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  Speaker 1: we all pre-tape a lot of interviews. And a lot
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  Speaker 1: of times, We pre-taped those and like, you know, we're
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  Speaker 1: setting things up. Ashley's setting things up and we're talking
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  Speaker 1: to the guy and then, you know, oh yeah, we're
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: good to go. Okay, well, here we go. Three, two, one, right?
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  Speaker 1: But we could have had a five minute conversation, right?
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  Speaker 1: We just did that with Greg Cosell today, which we
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: do every Friday. Well, like what if Greg would have
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: said something inflammatory in the first five minutes before we
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: actually did the weekly segment and we played it? Well,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: there'd be ramifications. Like he would never come on the
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  Speaker 1: show again, right? Like in this case, this guy doesn't
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: have anybody to answer to, and I think that's the problem.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Or sometimes when you're taping an interview, and I
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: actually wasn't present for this, but it's a Monday after
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: the Seahawks have lost a game in Cincinnati that included
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: a difficult penalty against a defensive tackle. for roughing the
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: passer on an interception return from Earl Thomas. And as
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: two of the members of the Monday afternoon radio show
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: are waiting to tape it, that defensive tackle who read
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: the criticism in the Kitsap Sun comes in and questions
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  Speaker 4: one of those fellows who used to work at your
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: station as well. And at one point it makes the
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: expression that it was an F word. I'm not going
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: to forget the quarterback and forget you. That tape never
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: saw the light.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Of day either. No, and it should have. And it
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: should have. It should have.
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  Speaker 4: But what you're bringing up is like when I worked
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  Speaker 4: for the Seattle Times, I spent a lot of time
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  Speaker 4: talking to guys in the locker room, a lot of
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: time interviewing. But there were times that I was just
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: talking to guys. And the rule that I had with
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: people was if I'm not writing it down, don't, I'm,
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: I'm not quoting you directly. Like we're talking. And there
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: were times that somebody would say something that I'd want
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: to use. And I would say to them, is it
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  Speaker 4: okay if I use that in the story? Because this
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: is my, I believe that the operating question is, is
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  Speaker 4: about fairness. It is fair for the person, like the
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: fairest thing to do is that the person you're talking
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: to knows that what they are saying is potentially going
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: to is eligible to be used in print. They should
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: understand that. And all of the different things about like, well,
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  Speaker 4: if you don't specify a top of the record, then
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  Speaker 4: it is on the record. Like, yeah, that's true for
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  Speaker 4: politicians and CEOs, but it's also a weird situation. If
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  Speaker 4: I'm telling jokes with a player and then all of
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  Speaker 4: a sudden they say something and I'm like, Oh, I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to use that. Like the player should know or
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  Speaker 4: the coach should know, Hey, what I'm saying is eligible
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  Speaker 4: to be used. And again, And about getting to that,
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  Speaker 4: that Ferris point, I think everybody involved, the story is funny.
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  Speaker 4: It demonstrates sort of the paranoia and competitiveness of coaches.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think anybody looks too bad, but I come
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: away from that very clear that Graham Bensinger was operating
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  Speaker 4: in a sort of move fast and beg for forgiveness
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: if they don't like what happened. And that's how you
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: get into trouble as a journalist. That is how you
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: burn relationships.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: The ask for forgiveness, not permission, that sounds good and fine,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: but not in journalism. The injury report has come out.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Julian Love out, Ty Okada out, so both starting safeties
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: are out. But nowhere on the injury report do I
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: see the name Sam Darnold. He is a full go.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: The commanders this weekend are missing their starting guard. They've
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: got actually five players, including their starting guard. Jayden Daniels,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: the starting quarterback, and their best defensive player, Frankie Louville,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: all out for the game. I don't know if there's
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: such a thing as a stress-free game, especially going across
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: the country, although that doesn't matter anymore. Those guys have
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: been fine even since the end of the Pete Carroll
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: era going across the country. Quick thoughts on the Seahawks'
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: defense against Marcus Mariota. I think he played down the
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: street somewhere in Oregon.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: He did, and he's a good backup quarterback in this week.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: He's kind of on that list that Drew Locke has
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: written himself onto. But Seattle's defense and Julian Love is
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: a hell of a player, and he's been really important
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: to them. But the run that Seattle's defense has been
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: on and the carryover that is from last year, people
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: in the league will tell you that year to year
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: offense carries over more consistently than defense. And that's true
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: because it's tied to quarterbacks, but this defense, the number
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: of people that they brought back from last year, the
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: way they're playing and the way this thing has been built,
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: I just, and, and Seattle's got it starting quarterback back, man,
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: that game against Arizona, that second half was a, It's
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: about as one-sided a game as you can possibly see
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: in the NFL, the way that they just squished him.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: And honestly, I don't think Washington is going to be
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: able to be much more effective than Arizona was against Seattle.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: And the Seahawks offense should be better with Donald back.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree. I would agree. Hopefully they're, uh,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, it just kind of, it feel, I don't
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: think there's a stress free, but it's as close to
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: it as you should probably get. Uh, even with Jaden Daniels,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: that's just not, Dan Quinn does not have a good roster. It's,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: I feel bad for the guy just does not have
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: a good roster there. That's a, That's a train wreck
• 49:00
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And the season starts.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's taxing. I'm getting up there in years. Usually
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  Speaker 1: It will. Noted. Well done. We'll talk to you next week,
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  Speaker 1: my friend. Thank you.
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• 50:42
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• 50:46
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• 50:48
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• 50:52
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  Speaker 1: the Hawks and the Commanders. Hi, Rob Rang, how are you?
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: I'm doing very well, Ian. How are you, sir?
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: I'm good. We've got a lot. Finally, we've got that
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: schedule we've been waiting for in college football. We're so
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: excited for college football to start, Rob, and then you
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: get a week zero, and maybe there's a decent game
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: week zero, oftentimes maybe not even that, and then you
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: get week one, and maybe in the first couple, three weeks,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: you get a couple games, non-conferences are okay. Obviously, we've
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: got Texas, Ohio State, and stuff like that. But now,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: here we go, man. It is the main event time.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: A lot of good games this weekend, my friend.
• 52:08
  Speaker 7: Oh, a lot of excellent games. It's a little bit
• 52:10
  Speaker 7: like going into Farrelly's, getting yourself an appetizer. You're excited
• 52:13
  Speaker 7: about the pizza that's coming. The appetizer's pretty good those
• 52:16
  Speaker 7: first couple of weeks of the college football season. But
• 52:19
  Speaker 7: now is when that Northwest Classic, or excuse me, Northwest
• 52:21
  Speaker 7: Traditional comes. It really is a fantastic weekend of college football.
• 52:26
  Speaker 7: We've got six games in top 25 teams against each other.
• 52:29
  Speaker 7: We've got the Big Ten opener, of course, for University
• 52:32
  Speaker 7: of Washington as well. There's all kinds of really exciting
• 52:36
  Speaker 7: football matchups. I'm excited to break it down with you.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: I was just thinking about the dad's bacon and cheddar
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• 52:45
  Speaker 1: All right, let's get things started with you. We'll get
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: through as many of these as we can, uh, and
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: just kind of power through it because there might be
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: more games that we can get to today, but let's
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: just start early 9. Let's go. We've got number one,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Texas against number 14, Tennessee. We talk about Texas. We
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: talk about Arch Manning, but, uh, the volunteers have a
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: couple of dudes as well.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: They really do.
• 53:04
  Speaker 7: Uh, you know, as you said, I mean, Arch Manning,
• 53:06
  Speaker 7: of course, is going to dominate the story. Not only
• 53:09
  Speaker 7: because he is the top-ranked prospect and likely to be
• 53:13
  Speaker 7: the number one overall pick, but at the same time,
• 53:16
  Speaker 7: it's also his return, his family's return to New England
• 53:20
  Speaker 7: Stadium at the University of Tennessee. Of course, that's where
• 53:23
  Speaker 7: Peyton Manning played. So I think that that's going to
• 53:26
  Speaker 7: be a fascinating storyline. But the Tennessee Volunteers have a
• 53:29
  Speaker 7: couple of players on defense, Ian, that I think are
• 53:32
  Speaker 7: going to make Arch Manning's you know, the Manning family's
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: return to Tennessee, a little bit uncomfortable. The linebacker area
• 53:40
  Speaker 7: on Carter, number seven, is one of the better linebackers
• 53:44
  Speaker 7: in coverage that I've seen so far this season. And
• 53:48
  Speaker 7: his name might be familiar to some NFL draft fans
• 53:50
  Speaker 7: out there because for a little while there, he actually
• 53:53
  Speaker 7: had put his name into the 2026 NFL draft before
• 53:57
  Speaker 7: deciding to return to Knoxville. Again, he's number seven, 6'1, 235.
• 54:02
  Speaker 7: He's got nine passes broken up over his career. So, again,
• 54:06
  Speaker 7: he's better in space than he is as just a rusher.
• 54:09
  Speaker 7: We see so many linebackers. That's all they do is
• 54:11
  Speaker 7: rush the quarterback. To be a three-down linebacker in today's NFL,
• 54:15
  Speaker 7: you've got to be able to do it all, and
• 54:16
  Speaker 7: this kid can.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: So I'm excited about him.
• 54:18
  Speaker 7: And then the cornerback, Caden Lee, number 14. And Caden
• 54:23
  Speaker 7: Lee is interesting because he is a transfer from Auburn,
• 54:27
  Speaker 7: And that is where Texas' top wide receiver, Cam Coleman,
• 54:33
  Speaker 7: also was a transfer from Auburn.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: So these guys know each other for a long time here.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Caden Lee only.
• 54:38
  Speaker 7: Has three interceptions over his college career, but he has
• 54:41
  Speaker 7: 17 pass breakups. So he makes a lot of plays
• 54:45
  Speaker 7: on the football. I'm fascinated by that one-on-one matchup on
• 54:48
  Speaker 7: the outside to Arch Manning's favorite receiver.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: All right. Is Arch sliding at all? What are you
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: hearing about his draft status?
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's sliding.
• 55:01
  Speaker 7: I think that the perception is that he is the
• 55:05
  Speaker 7: number one overall player, and so if he has any
• 55:07
  Speaker 7: mistakes whatsoever, then I think they just get magnified. The
• 55:11
  Speaker 7: fact that he didn't have an impressive stat line this
• 55:14
  Speaker 7: past week against the Ohio State Buckeyes, I think, again,
• 55:17
  Speaker 7: there's a lot of people out there who just look
• 55:18
  Speaker 7: at the box scores. But he had a couple of
• 55:21
  Speaker 7: big plays, including a drop from Cam Coleman That surprised me,
• 55:25
  Speaker 7: as well as a touchdown, an interception that was, you know,
• 55:28
  Speaker 7: basically his intended receiver, it was a dime of a throw.
• 55:33
  Speaker 7: The ball went through the receiver's hands and then into
• 55:35
  Speaker 7: the hands of a defensive back. So, of course, Arch
• 55:38
  Speaker 7: Manning on the statistics gets an interception, but it was
• 55:40
  Speaker 7: a heck of a throw. So I think that he
• 55:42
  Speaker 7: is not the polished, you know, final product type of
• 55:46
  Speaker 7: player that maybe people are expecting. But in terms of
• 55:50
  Speaker 7: just the physical upside that he possesses, I mean, his size,
• 55:53
  Speaker 7: his speed, his arm strength, this is not Peyton Manning
• 55:57
  Speaker 7: or Eli Manning all over again. This guy can motor.
• 56:01
  Speaker 7: And so because of that ability, I've always used the
• 56:03
  Speaker 7: comparison of Trevor Lawrence. It's going to take a little while,
• 56:06
  Speaker 7: but I think that he is very much a franchise
• 56:08
  Speaker 7: quarterback in a way.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: All right, let's get to some of the next game.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: 1230's got an incredible time slot coming up tomorrow, so
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: We probably won't get to all of them, but I
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: want to start with Oklahoma at number two, Georgia. It's
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: been a disappointing start for Oklahoma. Lost to Michigan. No
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: one's happy with John Mateer and OC Ben Arbuckle. But
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: this is a game I think you're watching both defenses,
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. Some studs on both sides on
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: both defenses for both the Bulldogs and for the Sooners.
• 56:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah, let's talk about the Bulldogs for a moment. They're
• 56:41
  Speaker 7: number two team in the country right now, at least
• 56:43
  Speaker 7: according to the AP coaches poll. And I think that
• 56:47
  Speaker 7: a lot of that has to do with just the
• 56:50
  Speaker 7: promise that Kirby Smart, as head coach, of course, a
• 56:53
  Speaker 7: defensive-minded guy, he's got a lot of really young players
• 56:56
  Speaker 7: that are going to be first-round or second-round picks someday,
• 57:00
  Speaker 7: but it remains to be seen how many of them
• 57:02
  Speaker 7: are going to wind up going to the 2027 NFL draft.
• 57:07
  Speaker 7: The first one I would mention would be another off-ball linebacker,
• 57:10
  Speaker 7: Chris Cole, number nine, 6'3, 235 pounds, and Ian, the
• 57:14
  Speaker 7: guy just moves so fluidly. You can just see that
• 57:17
  Speaker 7: he is going to be a difference maker. The safety,
• 57:20
  Speaker 7: KJ Bolden, is one of the better just all-around safeties
• 57:23
  Speaker 7: in the country. The young cornerback, number one, Ellis Robinson IV,
• 57:28
  Speaker 7: he's only a third-year sophomore. But again, talk about guys
• 57:31
  Speaker 7: who just move with such agility and acceleration. The game
• 57:34
  Speaker 7: just seems to come easy to him. He is a
• 57:37
  Speaker 7: player that I think is potentially going to be a
• 57:40
  Speaker 7: top 15 type of a guy someday. On the opposite
• 57:43
  Speaker 7: side of Oklahoma, again, everybody's going to talk about the quarterback,
• 57:46
  Speaker 7: John Mateer.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: I get that.
• 57:47
  Speaker 7: But if you're looking at it from a Seahawks perspective,
• 57:50
  Speaker 7: then the edge player, number 44 for Oklahoma, Taylor Wine,
• 57:54
  Speaker 7: to me is a really intriguing player.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: He's 6'4.
• 57:57
  Speaker 7: He's 265 pounds. He's really physical at the point of attack.
• 58:00
  Speaker 7: He's not the most explosive edge rusher. He doesn't have
• 58:03
  Speaker 7: that great twitch or that great flexibility to dip under
• 58:07
  Speaker 7: the reach of tackles, but he's powerful. He's instinctive, so
• 58:11
  Speaker 7: I like him a lot. David Stone, the defensive tackle,
• 58:14
  Speaker 7: number 0, 6'3, 315-pounder, he does.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: Have some of that twitch.
• 58:19
  Speaker 7: He might be a high first-round pick when it's all
• 58:21
  Speaker 7: said and done. You just see great initial quickness, considering
• 58:25
  Speaker 7: the fact he's 315 pounds. That's pretty unusual, but I
• 58:29
  Speaker 7: want to see a little bit more consistency with him.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Problem is, Rob, that when people are talking about John Mateer,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: they're not talking in positive terms down in Norman, Oklahoma
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: right now. All right, let's get to number— God, Mississippi coming off.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Ole Miss coming off that massive win against LSU. They're
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: up to number four in the rankings. They go to— how
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: about Florida? New coach, new year. Old Florida starting to
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: come back. They're in the top 25, ranked number 21
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: in the country. I got to start with Trinidad Chambliss, man.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: I just, I love this player. I hated when he
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: went against Wazoo last year, but just feels like a
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: special talent. Also feels like if he was two inches taller,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: we'd be talking about him in the top 10 and
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: top five of the draft. But Trinidad Chambliss, Ole Miss
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: taking on Florida on ABC at 1230.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: And you're such a pro, sir.
• 59:14
  Speaker 7: You could be doing this job as a scout because
• 59:17
  Speaker 7: I think that you're absolutely right. I don't care that
• 59:18
  Speaker 7: he's two inches shorter. I think he might wind up
• 59:22
  Speaker 7: being a top 10, top five pick anyway. He actually
• 59:25
  Speaker 7: measured in officially at 5'11 and 7'8, so just under
• 59:29
  Speaker 7: that six foot marker, you know, that a lot of
• 59:32
  Speaker 7: teams like to use. But of course you think about
• 59:34
  Speaker 7: some of the shorter quarterbacks that have had some success
• 59:37
  Speaker 7: in the NFL and everybody initially points to Kyler Murray,
• 59:41
  Speaker 7: but I also mentioned guys like a Baker Mayfield or
• 59:43
  Speaker 7: a Russell Wilson or Brock Purdy, who's six one, you know, again,
• 59:47
  Speaker 7: these guys that are a little.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: Bit short, but have really thick builds.
• 59:51
  Speaker 7: I think that because of their compact frame, they actually
• 59:55
  Speaker 7: allows them to be a little bit more durable and
• 59:58
  Speaker 7: than maybe some of the other so-called undersized quarterbacks. And
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 7: he is a gamer. I mean, my goodness, he is
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 7: a quality scrambler. He's not a run-first guy. He is
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 7: very much a pass-first guy. And just his story is
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 7: so fascinating. Very under-recruited, originally at Ferris State as a backup.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 7: Then when it was his turn, they just won a
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 7: national championship. He goes to Ole Miss last year, again,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 7: as a backup. But when there was an injury to
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 7: the starter, he took over the reins. And, of course,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 7: they got themselves into the playoffs that The dynamic win
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 7: you mentioned against LSU this past week and then last
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 7: year against.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: Georgia, really open eyes.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 7: That's my latest article at FoxSports.com right now as I
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 7: try to put the binoculars on. And I always take
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 7: quarterbacks and try to evaluate them through the lens of
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 7: what I call the five A's. I'm always evaluating quarterbacks
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 7: on their awareness, their anticipation, their accuracy. their athletic ability,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 7: and then just their attitude. And that's one of the
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 7: things about Trinidad Chambliss. He's got the attitude that you want,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 7: the quarterback position. The guy is just a winner. Throw
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 7: some of the measurables out the window and just watch
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 7: the kid play football. This guy is a future franchise quarterback.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 7: I think that he is a first-round caliber player. and
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 7: would be selected as such if the draft were today.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: A couple of pretty good running backs in that game
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: as well. Rob, Mississippi and Florida. Kiwan Lacey from Ole Miss.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: And Florida's got a heck of a running back in
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Jaden Baugh.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: They really do. I mean, that to me, again, everybody's
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: going to focus on the quarterback. I get it.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 7: And it's certainly going to be a fun evaluation to
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 7: see how Trinidad Chambliss handles the swamp. But at the
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 7: same time, to me, the reason why this game is
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 7: so interesting is is because of the running back talent.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 7: I would argue these are the two best running back
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 7: prospects for this upcoming draft. And it's kind of a
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 7: sneaky need for the Seahawks. Obviously, they invested in their
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 7: first-round selection this past year in Jadarian Price. But with
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 7: Zach Charbonnet, a pending free agent, as well as Emmanuel Wilson,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 7: Seattle might be considering a running back earlier than most
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 7: Seahawks fans would anticipate.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: He won Lacey. I mean, he's just as dynamic as
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: it gets.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 7: I have used the comparison before with Devon Achan. The
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 7: dynamic smaller running back for the Miami Dolphins. I mean,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 7: he is a guy that, again, is just so quick
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 7: and so accelerates so smoothly. And he answered a lot
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 7: of questions about durability a year ago with how dynamic
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  Speaker 7: he was. He has struggled a little bit with injury
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  Speaker 7: so far this season. So that bears watching. But Jaden
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  Speaker 7: Baugh is a dude. I mean, he is exactly the
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  Speaker 7: type of player that John Schneider has preferred in the past.
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  Speaker 2: He's 5'10, he's 230 pounds.
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  Speaker 7: He almost plays a little bit like what we saw
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  Speaker 7: from Emmanuel Wilson this past week against the Arizona Cardinals,
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  Speaker 7: where he is just trucking guys and is much quicker
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  Speaker 7: to and through the hole than you'd expect. Again, 230 pounds.
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  Speaker 7: He's got three runs of over 50 yards just this season.
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  Speaker 7: So I'm really excited to see what he's going to
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  Speaker 7: do against Ole Miss this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: didn't ask you about Iowa and Michigan. Number 17 at
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  Speaker 1: number 19. Number 17, Iowa, number 19, Michigan. Kyle Whittingham's
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  Speaker 1: first year there. mostly because I think you just want
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  Speaker 1: to talk about guys in the line of scrimmage, and
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  Speaker 1: so I'll let you do that, my friend.
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  Speaker 2: Well, again, you talked about Pirelli and the cheese sticks.
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  Speaker 7: I think that there are a couple of guys that
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  Speaker 7: play for the Iowa Hawkeyes and Michigan Wolverines. That's traditional
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  Speaker 7: Big Ten football, where it's not so much the skill position, guys.
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  Speaker 2: It is the big boys on both sides of the
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  Speaker 2: line of scrimmage.
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  Speaker 7: There's a couple of individual one-on-one matchups that I think
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  Speaker 7: are fascinating. Number 59 for Iowa, the left tackle, Trevor Locke, 6'5, 314-pounder.
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  Speaker 7: He's one of those guys that is just as clean
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  Speaker 7: on tape as you get. But, of course, he's one
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  Speaker 7: of those players that the scouts are going to nitpick
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  Speaker 7: a little bit because there's some question about his arm length.
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  Speaker 7: We've had that conversation how many times over the years.
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  Speaker 7: But the guy is a terrific player, and he's going
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  Speaker 7: to be going up against a couple of really talented
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  Speaker 7: Michigan pass rushers. We've talked about John Henry Daly before.
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  Speaker 7: He followed Kyle Whittingham. from Utah to Michigan. I think
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  Speaker 7: he's a star. Number 90, he's not the flashiest guy,
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  Speaker 7: but again, just powerful and instinctive. 6'5, 252 pounds. Dom
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  Speaker 7: Nichols is kind of the opposite. He is much flashier athlete,
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  Speaker 7: and he's just a pup. He's only a third-year junior,
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  Speaker 7: but you can see the twitch to him. He's 6'5,
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  Speaker 7: he's 245 pounds. I think he's a little raw, but still,
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  Speaker 7: you can see that he is going to be a
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  Speaker 7: big-time player. And then finally, I'd mention a player in
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  Speaker 7: Cade Piper, number 58. He's the right guard that actually
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  Speaker 7: probably is going to project better to center position in
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  Speaker 7: the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: He also was for Iowa.
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  Speaker 7: Again, 6'3, he's 290 pounds, a little bit undersized with
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  Speaker 7: what NFL teams traditionally like, but he might be the
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  Speaker 7: quickest offensive lineman I've seen off the line so far
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  Speaker 7: this season, Ian. And of course, that is one of
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  Speaker 7: the things that John Benton and the Seahawks and their
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  Speaker 7: traditionally wide zone offense, they're definitely sprinkling in some more things.
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  Speaker 7: But he is the type of player that I think
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  Speaker 7: that John Benton would absolutely love.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Rob, let's get to a couple of late games.
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  Speaker 1: I'll start first with number 20, Oregon, number 12, USC.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just go right here. Let's just right go to
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  Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. Dante Moore, Jordan Maieva.
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  Speaker 7: You know, it's interesting because Dante Moore, to me, has
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  Speaker 7: all the traits that you're looking for. I want to
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  Speaker 7: see him put it together. And we've seen flashes of it.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, for a couple of years. but he has
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  Speaker 7: just struggled with inconsistency and obviously the loss to Oklahoma
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  Speaker 7: state a couple of weeks ago, you just wanted to
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  Speaker 7: see him, you know, put the, put the ducks on
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  Speaker 7: his back, so to speak, and then just lead them
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  Speaker 7: to the victory.
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  Speaker 2: I think this is his opportunity to do that.
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  Speaker 7: Oklahoma state to me that that game, I certainly chalk
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  Speaker 7: up a little bit to Oregon, just kind of overlooking
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  Speaker 7: Oklahoma state.
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  Speaker 2: This is the game that everybody's eyes are going to
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  Speaker 2: be on.
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  Speaker 7: Cause as you mentioned, it's, It's an opportunity to go
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  Speaker 7: up against USC, Jaden Maiava, who is not as gifted
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  Speaker 7: of a player, I would say, as Dante Moore. But
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  Speaker 7: he just does all the little things right. He doesn't
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  Speaker 7: have the biggest arm. He's certainly not a dynamic athlete.
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  Speaker 7: He's more of a traditional kind of drop back passer.
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  Speaker 7: He can scramble when he needs to. But he is
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  Speaker 7: a survey the field type of a guy and then
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  Speaker 7: just delivers consistently catchable balls. I've been impressed by the
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  Speaker 7: improvement that he has shown, despite the fact that USC,
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  Speaker 7: of course, lost two wide receivers to the NFL. Malachi
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  Speaker 7: Lemon and then Jacoby Lane, both being early draft picks,
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  Speaker 7: both flashing early on in their respective NFL careers.
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  Speaker 2: But Jaden Maiava is taking strides.
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  Speaker 7: So this to me, you can talk about all the
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  Speaker 7: guys you want to talk about, USC and Oregon, a
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  Speaker 7: load along the line of scrimmage. This is the game
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  Speaker 7: I want to see the quarterbacks basically just go mano
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  Speaker 7: a mano and see who can wind up as the winner.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to serve this as almost a preview, because
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  Speaker 1: you know what? I'm all here for the Husky fans.
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  Speaker 1: I'm here for you guys, dog fans. I'm one of you, right?
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  Speaker 1: Here we go. Help you out. I joke. Certainly joke.
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  Speaker 1: But 8 o'clock tomorrow on Fox, Minnesota at Washington. We
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  Speaker 1: know about Washington. We know about DeMond Williams and everything else.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about just a couple matchups. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: before I get to the matchup on the line of
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  Speaker 1: scrimmage with Anthony Smith, the edge for Minnesota, against Washington's
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  Speaker 1: right tackle, let's just give us a little feel for
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  Speaker 1: what Drake Lindsey, the quarterback for Minnesota, is all about.
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  Speaker 1: Because at least in terms of looking at the numbers,
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  Speaker 1: he looks like your prototypical NFL quarterback at 6'5, 230.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. That's the thing. It's such a contrast.
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  Speaker 7: You've got DeMauro Williams, who maybe is 5'10 and 190 pounds.
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  Speaker 7: But at the same time, I mentioned Kyler Murray before.
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  Speaker 7: That's who DeMauro Williams has always reminded me of. He's
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  Speaker 7: just such a dynamic athlete who happens to be a
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  Speaker 7: pretty inaccurate passer as well. So really intriguing talent. But again,
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  Speaker 7: you worry about the size. Whereas with Drake Lindsey, he
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  Speaker 7: is not nearly the dynamic athlete, but 6'5, 230 pounds
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  Speaker 7: with an absolute rocket for an arm. You know, he
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  Speaker 7: is a really interesting player. And that's one of the
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  Speaker 7: things that I've noticed about P.J. Fleck, the head coach
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  Speaker 7: for Minnesota, is that he finds some of these guys
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  Speaker 7: who are a little bit raw and then just develops them.
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  Speaker 2: So with Drake Lindsey, he's only a redshirt sophomore.
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  Speaker 7: He has got a lot of growth that needs to
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  Speaker 7: happen before he is going to become a legitimate NFL prospect.
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  Speaker 7: But he is not just some guy. He is a
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  Speaker 7: player that I think the NFL scouts are already very
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  Speaker 7: much paying attention to. And I'm curious to see how
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  Speaker 7: he handles the pressure of the Big Ten opener on
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  Speaker 7: the road at Montlake.
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  Speaker 1: What's the line of scrimmage battle you're watching?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned it.
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  Speaker 7: Their edge rusher for Minnesota, Anthony Smith, is a guy
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  Speaker 7: that And he had 12 and a half sacks a
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  Speaker 7: year ago.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, so of course, he is somebody that you're
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  Speaker 2: you're going to watch.
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  Speaker 7: Um, and I think that his matchup primarily likely to
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  Speaker 7: be against the, the right tackle drew as a party, um,
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  Speaker 7: who to me is, is UW best player on offense,
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  Speaker 7: at least for this 2027 NFL draft, maybe even their
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  Speaker 7: best prospect.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, Anthony Smith does not have that elite, uh, speed.
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  Speaker 7: But he is 6'5, he's 250 pounds, and he is
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  Speaker 7: a guy that can be very physical at the point
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  Speaker 7: of attack. And so with Drew as a party, 6'7,
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  Speaker 7: 320 pounds, physicality is not the issue. It's just sometimes
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  Speaker 7: he can get a little bit too high and guys
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  Speaker 7: can kind of bull rush him. That to me is
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  Speaker 7: going to be a really fun matchup that may wind
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  Speaker 7: up determining what a game that I think is going
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  Speaker 7: to be closer than some are anticipating.
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  Speaker 1: Rob, great stuff as always, my friend. Enjoy the games
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  Speaker 1: this weekend. I know in Rob Rang Central, the TVs
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  Speaker 1: will be going, the notepad will be out, and away
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  Speaker 1: you go, because this is our best weekend yet in
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: college football. So can't wait for that. Can't wait to
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Ian.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. That's Rob Rang. We'll take a break.
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