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Chuck & Buck 3-17 Hour 2: NBA expansion talk with Mike Vorkunov, Cal's return and MacDonald's special skills. · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 2: And of course, the big news from yesterday which we
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  Speaker 2: led with today, the NBA will have its Board of Governors.
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  Speaker 3: Meet next week at this time one week.
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  Speaker 2: From today and Mike stretch into Wednesday to vote on
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  Speaker 2: whether or not they like the idea of Vegas and
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  Speaker 2: Seattle being added to the league as expansion franchises and
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  Speaker 2: to join us now to discuss this very topic. In
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  Speaker 2: lieu of Greg Bell, who we've given a couple of
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  Speaker 2: days off too, we are having We're gonna have an
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  Speaker 2: NBA conversation this morning with Mike Vorkinoff, who is with
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  Speaker 2: the Athletic. He's a basketball reporter. I think he does
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  Speaker 2: a podcast. Oh man, he just let's just put it
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  Speaker 2: this way. Dude knows this stuff, and we need somebody
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  Speaker 2: who knows his stuff right to educate us on what
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  Speaker 2: is going on with this story from yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, Mike, Hey, how's it going great? You know
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  Speaker 3: your stuff?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: We haven't so yeah, we haven't investment in the wrong person,
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  Speaker 3: have we.
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  Speaker 5: No, No, they haven't fired me yet, so I think
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  Speaker 5: legally I do know my stuff right now?
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  Speaker 2: a green beer already in hand?
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  Speaker 3: By chance?
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  Speaker 5: I listen, I'm gonna admit it, I'm a little too
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  Speaker 5: washed for this. I I will maybe drink them later tonight,
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  Speaker 5: but I'm not gonna be out in the streets.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, you're quitter, Mike is quit celebrating?
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  Speaker 4: Agree? I agree.
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  Speaker 3: I'm right there with you. I'm right there with you, Mike.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Well, let's dive into this story.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously here in Seattle, this getting the Sonics back ripped
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  Speaker 2: the heart out of this city. Excuse me, Losing them
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  Speaker 2: ripped the heart out of this city. And then they've
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  Speaker 2: been teased with maybe, maybe not that Seattle's going to
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  Speaker 2: get another franchise, and in the last couple of years,
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  Speaker 2: it just feels like Adam Silver is kicking this decision
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  Speaker 2: down the road time and time after again. And so
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  Speaker 2: there are a lot of people up here that are
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  Speaker 2: just living in a world of I need to see
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  Speaker 2: it in order to believe it. What would you tell
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  Speaker 2: them about yesterday's news and how good they should feel
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  Speaker 2: about Seattle getting an NBA franchise back.
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  Speaker 5: Well, look, it's a great first step for Seattle and
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  Speaker 5: for expansion. The NBA has been kicking this idea.
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  Speaker 4: Around for I mean a better part of a decade.
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  Speaker 5: At this point, I think this is the first substantive
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  Speaker 5: move towards that. It is not a guarantee that expansion
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  Speaker 5: is happening, but I would think that when the team
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  Speaker 5: owners vote on this next week, they will vote to
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  Speaker 5: explore which just means they will then vote to see
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  Speaker 5: if someone is willing to throw enough money around to
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  Speaker 5: bring teams to Las Vegas and Seattle. And that's better
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  Speaker 5: than what had been the status quo. So I think
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  Speaker 5: it's a good first step, but it's not the final step.
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  Speaker 6: Mike, obviously, Yeah, it's not the final step. And yet,
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  Speaker 6: I mean the idea if we were just to assume
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  Speaker 6: that there is going to be some folks that are
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  Speaker 6: going to come up with with big money, whether I
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  Speaker 6: mean it's Vegas folks or some people up here in Seattle,
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  Speaker 6: is there any other hang ups? I mean, if you
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  Speaker 6: were just to think of getting past this initial vote
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  Speaker 6: that should happen in a week or so, is there
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  Speaker 6: any potential hang ups that you could see that would
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  Speaker 6: make that first vote not pass.
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  Speaker 5: I would think if they're getting this far down the road,
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  Speaker 5: it's become public. I mean, Adam Silver has been talking
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  Speaker 5: for so long about, hey, we need to at least
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  Speaker 5: look at this.
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  Speaker 4: You know, leagues grow over time. And I also think there.
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  Speaker 5: Is no downside to exploring it. Right, They're going to
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  Speaker 5: explore whether there are enough bidders to make a substantive
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  Speaker 5: enough offer for an expansion team in those cities. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I think there's no downside for the league to go
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  Speaker 5: through and see what's the financial outlook look like, who
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  Speaker 5: are the bidding interested investors out there, and what would
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  Speaker 5: the cost be for an expansion fee. I think that
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  Speaker 5: that I would think would go through. There's no downside
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  Speaker 5: for the league, so why not just do it.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Warkanoff is with US basketball reporter at the Athletic.
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  Speaker 2: He has confirmed that he knows his stuff and it's
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  Speaker 2: why he is joining us here this morning in reaction
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  Speaker 2: to yesterday's news that there will be a meeting next
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  Speaker 2: week to discuss the next phase in the expansion process.
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  Speaker 2: And where do you think that the figure is going
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  Speaker 2: to be? I mean it was reported yesterday like seven
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  Speaker 2: to ten billion dollars for a franchise. Do you think
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  Speaker 2: that's lofty? Do you think that's under selling it? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: how big could this number get before it's all said
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  Speaker 2: and done?
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  Speaker 5: Mike, I think they're probably eyeing about eight billion dollars.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously they'll be super happy if it goes above eight billion.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, the presumption a few years ago, before
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  Speaker 5: the Celtics sale, before the Lakers sale, was that an
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  Speaker 5: expansion team in Vegas and Seattle will cost about five
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  Speaker 5: billion dollars. Right in that time, we've had those two
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  Speaker 5: teams go for a lot of money, and.
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  Speaker 4: So that's pushed the price up.
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  Speaker 5: And so I think they have some good idea of
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  Speaker 5: the market too. Like you know, interested investors and bidders
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  Speaker 5: have been getting their stuff together for years. They've let
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  Speaker 5: the league know they're interested, so they have some idea
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  Speaker 5: what the market looks like. But once it actually starts
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  Speaker 5: happening and people start placing bids, you know, that's that's
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  Speaker 5: what can drive prices up even higher, more so than
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  Speaker 5: just like someone telling the league, Hey, I'm interested, this
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  Speaker 5: is what I might pay.
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  Speaker 6: How about the the stuff that kind of surrounds the
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  Speaker 6: entire decision and whatnot. That the new arena here, Climate
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  Speaker 6: Pledge Arena is pretty amazing. There's there's some stuff that
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  Speaker 6: that was part of the reason that they were kind
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  Speaker 6: of ripped out of here with some stuff like that.
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  Speaker 6: So is there anything outside of that that you're hearing
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  Speaker 6: is is good in favor of the Sea of Seattle
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  Speaker 6: getting their team back?
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  Speaker 4: I listen.
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  Speaker 5: I think the good is that everyone knows that the
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  Speaker 5: NBA expands theoretically, Seattle should be a top the list, right.
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  Speaker 5: I think there's remorse within in the league that the
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  Speaker 5: NBA ever left. They are the I believe the second
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  Speaker 5: largest media market, or Seattle is the second largest media
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  Speaker 5: market without an NBA team. It's got major, you know,
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  Speaker 5: companies there. It's got significant wealth that can sell luxury
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  Speaker 5: suites and all those things that are important to a
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  Speaker 5: team owner, and you know, making revenue on arenas and
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  Speaker 5: all that stuff. I think there's a lot going for it,
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  Speaker 5: and so really the question is will it draw enough
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  Speaker 5: in an expansion feed to make the delution of revenue
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  Speaker 5: worth it for other team owners. I think there's a
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  Speaker 5: lot that's going in Seattle's favor. I would think that
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  Speaker 5: it's the favorite, presumptively over Las Vegas in terms of, Hey,
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  Speaker 5: if you had to pick one, which city would it be.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Workanoff is with us from the Athletic talking about
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  Speaker 2: this story about the governor's meeting next week in the
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  Speaker 2: National Basketball Association. Looks like we're and we've been in
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  Speaker 2: a long time to actually seeing this come to her
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  Speaker 2: reality expansion and the Sonics returning here to the NBA.
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  Speaker 2: What about the dilution of the talent. I mean, you've
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  Speaker 2: got a tanking problem already in the NBA, and now
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  Speaker 2: we're going to thin out the available talent by two
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  Speaker 2: more franchises. Do you believe that could be problematic?
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  Speaker 4: Mike, Yeah, Listen, that's an interesting question. I think there's probably.
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  Speaker 5: There's probably more talent in the NBA now than there
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  Speaker 5: ever has been, Like some of the players who are
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  Speaker 5: deeper down on the bench, you know, you know, the
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  Speaker 5: fifth guy on a team are probably more talented now
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  Speaker 5: than they used to be. But adding thirty new roster spots,
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  Speaker 5: six new two ways, if you add up, you know,
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  Speaker 5: two new expansion.
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  Speaker 4: Teams is a lot.
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  Speaker 5: It's definitely going to delude it. But that's the tradeoff
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  Speaker 5: I think that the league is willing to make. And
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  Speaker 5: you hope that, you know, down the line, you're able
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  Speaker 5: to produce more.
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  Speaker 4: Talent and make up for it.
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  Speaker 5: And you know, I think nothing's clean about expansion, So
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  Speaker 5: you have to have some trade offs, and so they're
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  Speaker 5: willing to take the financial upside over maybe a drop in,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the talent delusion across the league.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, last time they expanded, I don't think that
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  Speaker 2: the game was as globally sound as it is now.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's plenty of talent out there despair, but
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  Speaker 2: that's just me personally. What about the expansion process the
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  Speaker 2: National Hockey League The last time it expanded, and we
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  Speaker 2: know this very well, they made it easier on the
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  Speaker 2: expansion franchise to compete earlier than what they have in
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  Speaker 2: the past. Do you have any insight into this at
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  Speaker 2: all as to whether or not they might adjust rules
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  Speaker 2: so that these new franchises don't have to wait five years,
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  Speaker 2: ten years like they used to before they're competitive.
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  Speaker 5: Well, there are rules, very specific ones written out in
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  Speaker 5: the CBA, so I don't know what the NHL did,
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  Speaker 5: but for the end, if you're coming in, you know
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  Speaker 5: your salary cap is going to be two thirds of
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  Speaker 5: what the other NBA. You know the existing NBA teams
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  Speaker 5: are in year one, it's gonna be eighty percent.
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  Speaker 4: In year two.
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  Speaker 5: You're probably not getting an opportunity to win the number
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  Speaker 5: one overall pick in the lottery, So you know, there's
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  Speaker 5: there's some there's some costs to come in, and they
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  Speaker 5: do make it harder to compete right away. So I
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  Speaker 5: don't think that unless there's the new CBA before a
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  Speaker 5: team comes in which you know, based on the timeline,
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  Speaker 5: there probably isn't going to be It's probably a little
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  Speaker 5: bit tough to come.
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  Speaker 4: In and you know, be great in year one like the.
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  Speaker 5: Las Vegas Knights were or you know, I know, the
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  Speaker 5: crack and have had success.
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  Speaker 4: But on the other hand, you're bad but you have
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  Speaker 4: an NBA team.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I guess there's nowhere to go.
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  Speaker 3: But uh, I think that's the way.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, there was rules kind of hamstring in
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  Speaker 6: the organization to start with it.
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  Speaker 3: It kind of sucks your your wife is homicidal, but
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  Speaker 3: you're married. Yeah, yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 6: I mean money talks and obviously you were talking the
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  Speaker 6: number probably somewhere around eight billion dollars, and you can
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  Speaker 6: overlook different things where whether it's you know, winning earlier,
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  Speaker 6: the dilution of talent across the board. I mean, when
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  Speaker 6: you're just talking to other people outside of the Seattle market,
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  Speaker 6: does it sound like most people are really wanting Seattle
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  Speaker 6: to get a team in Vegas for that.
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  Speaker 5: Matter, you know, I actually think that there is a
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  Speaker 5: good amount of you know, of NBA fans who want
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  Speaker 5: a team back in Seattle. If you're a certain age
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  Speaker 5: like the Sonics are, you know, this great franchise with
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  Speaker 5: a great logo and uniforms, and you loved watching Sean
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  Speaker 5: Temp and Gary Payton and those teams.
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  Speaker 4: So I think anytime you bring up expansion just to.
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  Speaker 5: NBA fans outside of the NBA, sorry, outside of Seattle,
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  Speaker 5: there's some interest in, like, hey, let's just bring a
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  Speaker 5: team back to Seattle and get this over with, right.
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  Speaker 5: I think they're a little bit annoyed too, that this
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  Speaker 5: has been kind of going, you know, back and forth
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  Speaker 5: and spectatably for the last decade too. So I think
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  Speaker 5: there's a lot more interest in having a team back
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  Speaker 5: in Seattle, bringing the SuperSonics back than there is, you know,
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  Speaker 5: a team in Vegas or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: How old were you when the Sonics left, Mike, Do I.
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  Speaker 4: Have to answer that question?
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  Speaker 3: Please?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 5: I was I'm trying to think now, probably about twenty one.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, oh okay, former yeah, I remember those I
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  Speaker 2: was I was expecting here.
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  Speaker 4: Like, yeah, nose.
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  Speaker 5: Those teams from the nineties are awesome, you know, the
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  Speaker 5: nineties Sonics teams, the early two thousand Sonics teams, and like,
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  Speaker 5: I think just everyone likes to think through the the
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  Speaker 5: realm of nostalgia and so everyone wants to bring that
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  Speaker 5: back if you're an NBA fan.
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  Speaker 2: Really, all right, last thing, and let's just I do
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  Speaker 2: want to ask you while we got you, well, just
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  Speaker 2: a general NBA question.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, here we are, We're not too far away.
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  Speaker 2: March Madness is beginning in college basketball, so the NBA
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  Speaker 2: playoffs will start after that. I mean, what's the story
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  Speaker 2: this year in the National Basketball Association? What's the sexiest
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  Speaker 2: thing about the league right now? According to Mike Borkinoff,
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  Speaker 2: as we get ready for playoff basketball.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, to me, it's is this the start of
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  Speaker 5: the era of Wemby. You know, everyone thought that we
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: might have a new dynasty with the Okay Oklahoma City Thunder.
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  Speaker 5: You know, not to bring that up, but Wemby now
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  Speaker 5: might be taken over the league a lot earlier than
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  Speaker 5: anyone expected. And you know, it's possible that the Spurs
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  Speaker 5: win a title. And so that, I thought, to me,
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  Speaker 5: is the most interesting thing this year is do we
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  Speaker 5: have a coronation of a new kind of like top player,
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  Speaker 5: top star.
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  Speaker 4: In the league.
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  Speaker 3: I think you're right. I think it nailed it.
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  Speaker 2: Nice work, Mike, Thanks man. We appreciate great to get
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  Speaker 2: to know you a little bit. We'll bug you again
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  Speaker 2: another time, all right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I assume we'll be having a lot more conversations
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  Speaker 5: on this issue going forward.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, good, good, good, Thank you, Mike.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks guys.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Mike.
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  Speaker 2: Borkanoff joining us right here on Chucking Buck in the morning,
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  Speaker 2: basketball reporter for The Athletic as he's given us the
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  Speaker 2: latest on the Seattle situation.
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  Speaker 3: Again. NBA Board of Governors will meet next week.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like most people believe that's just part of
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  Speaker 2: the process. As I said earlier, I don't think they
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  Speaker 2: would be having that vote if Adam Silver didn't already
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  Speaker 2: know that it was going to get past that stage.
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  Speaker 2: But there's Mike Borkanoff, who covers the league for a living,
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  Speaker 2: and he's telling you what Ashley and so many of
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  Speaker 2: our Texters are trying to warn us of. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's not like it's a guarantee. It's not a foregone conclusion.
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  Speaker 2: There is a process here to work your way through.
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  Speaker 2: I just think that they will work through it just fine.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to be any heavy obstacles here.
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  Speaker 6: Well, is there anything that we ever talk about when
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: it comes to large sports or just basically life in general,
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: that you can't follow the dollars and make it make sense.
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: I mean, to me, so if a couple of years ago,
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: when we've been kind of strung along or whatever with
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: this whole topic, if the idea to these owners was
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: four billion dollars to dilute the product to some degree
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: by two more teams, then I could see them being like, yeah,
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: you know, I've already got a lot of money, and that's.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Not really that big of a deal.
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: You double it just a few years later, right, basically
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: say no, it's not four, it's eight or maybe ten
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: per team, per team. Yeah, Then all of a sudden
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: they're like, Okay, now, now maybe I'm kind of a
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: little bit more interested. I mean, just you just have
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: to follow the money, and you typically will find the
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: answers that you want to find. And so I think
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: for a long time Adam Silver has been wanting this
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: to happen. Now, he obviously can't do anything on his own.
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: He has to go to this board and the owners,
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: and he has to get approval from a majority of
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: these guys. And yet he's had to figure out a
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: way to kind of string this thing along. And that's
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: at our expense is sonic fans of quit stringing us along.
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: And yet he's like, I'm trying to do I'm trying
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: to get you a team. And if you wanted me
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: to just jump the gun and go straight to a vote, Seattle,
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: do they get a team or not? If you wanted
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: that four or five, six, ten years ago, you wouldn't
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: have got it. I mean thirteen years ago, in that
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: twenty thirteen time that actually was talking about when they
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: were thinking about we still had the old Key arena,
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: you didn't have. You hadn't done enough that the NBA.
• 18:27
  Speaker 7: Aliens Huh they had arena plans down by the stadiums.
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but you would have had a couple of years
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: where you would have had to wait for a team limbo.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there would have been a team in limbo. So
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just you. I think that now you.
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: Got all the ducks in a row, right, Seattle has
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: their ducks in a row, And it seems like to me,
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: it feels like there's more momentum going in the direction
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: of all right now the you know, they're actually taking
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: this to a vote, which it is further than we've
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: been right, the vote of are you going to get
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: a new team. Are we going to let two new
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: teams in this league right now? You're gonna We're gonna
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: find out.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: No.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And Climate Pledge Arena probably is like the key
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: to it all. And I think that's why toddleli Wiki
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: told us on the air two years ago, like it's
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: it's happening, you know. I think that's why he knew
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: that there's there's not going to be that. I mean,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Kansas City built us an arena a few years ago
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: just in case the NBA ever wanted to come there.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: And now it's too old. Now that's sad, and that's sad.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: It's just sitting there and they're never they're not going
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: to get an NBA franchise because now it's not the
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: state of the art thing that we have here down
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: the street from us. But they thought of that. Toddleli
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Wiki thought of that. I'm sure others thought of that,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: and and we're set to go now. So I don't
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: think there's anything getting in the way of this. I mean,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I get it. Go ahead and keep your obstacles in
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: front of you, keep the wall around your heart. I
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: realize it got broken all of you out there but
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: I don't see anything get in in the path of
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: this now.
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: But I can understand where, you know, where most people
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: are just a little guarded.
• 19:59
  Speaker 7: I think most people have thought it's happening. It's just
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: we keep talking about it's happening. Eventually, it's gonna happen. Eventually,
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: it's gonna happen. Well, yeah, that's all that's been happening,
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: all right.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Coming up next, we are in the midst of our
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: countdown toward one of our favorite days of the entire year,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: and it's going to involve a certain guy with a
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: big butt. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. We
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: are nine days away from the start of the Major
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: League Baseball season. Yes, the countdown continues opening day. Just now,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: how sweet does that sound? Just rolling off the lips
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: right there? Day about it? Now, there's a national holiday.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: You always make fun of me for making up holidays.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: That's a holiday.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: It's not made up.
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: No, this was not made up. It's a real one.
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: I'm with you one hundred percent. And it should be
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: a day off. Matter of fact, two days off that
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: day and the next day should be off. Let's like,
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: let's do this thing, right, there's a bunch of holidays
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: that we get days off for that are not nearly
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: as cool.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: We don't even get a day off for draftness exactly. Yeah,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, what on earth seems ular? Yeah, we don't
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: need more together. Get it together, America. Yeah, let's go
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: pull yourself together, world.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what are we doing voting on all of these
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: school issues and we're not even getting Draftmas off?
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: You don't even give kids off Draftmas.
• 21:13
  Speaker 7: We should at least get it off for one hundred
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: and fiftieth year of America in Draftmas.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I'm not talking about the entire month. Oh not yet. Yeah,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: I just the week of that's all. That's all I'm
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: asking for.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: But nine days away from opening day of Major League Baseball, and.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Man, I don't know.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure in his own way that Cal
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: is loving this experience of the WBC and being on
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Team USA and everything that goes with that, and and
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: tonight they got a chance.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: To win the whole thing.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure what we know of Cal that he
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: wouldn't trade this experience.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: That's anything. That's it.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: It could have gone a whole lot better, could have
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: gone a whole lot better for the big dumper and
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: My guess is that there's a little bit of a
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: part of him that just can't wait to get back
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: into the fold with his rotation, playing every day, you know,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: and preparing for the Mariners to get ready for opening Day.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, by the time he gets there, even if
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: he jumps on an overnight flight back to Peoria tomorrow,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: he'll get back. Tomorrow will be the earliest that he
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: could get back with his team. Something tells me, I mean,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: this has not exactly been storybook no, for cal this experience.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: He doesn't have a hit.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: He has played every other day because it's the catcher position,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: and you know how much he wants to play every day.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: He can't stand.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, just watching him sit in the dugout when
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: he's not playing, it looks like he's being tortured over
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: there on the sidelines. He's had the first, like real
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: negative criticism about him and his character for the first
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: time in his career, and even though I think it's unfounded,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: nonetheless it's real. I mean, he's been destroyed the last
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: week and a half by social media warriors out there
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: for the way that he's conducted himself at the WBC.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: I just I just I think there would be. I
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: know he wouldn't trade this for anything, Bucky, but I
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: think there's a little part of him is like, I
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: just can't wait to get back with my guys and
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: start getting ready for the Mariners season.
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: I mean, I'm sure the day after the handshake Gate
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: and when he was talking to reporters was the most
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: uncomfortable he's been in front of a camera. And that's
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: from a guy who wasn't super comfortable when he first
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: came on the scene just because he was young, and
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: he you know, he wasn't He's not a natural speaker.
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't say, kind of more of a you know,
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: I lead by example, not necessarily talking as much. Now
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: he's grown into that, and you thrust himself into the
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: spotlight with hitting sixty homers last season, sixty five if
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: count of the post he's night. I think that he's
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: he's grown into it. He's he's turned into like, Okay,
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: I can carry this weight. I'm fine with that. I
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: think that when he was all of a sudden, I
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: have to answer questions like whoa Jesu Louise, all I
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: was doing was just trying to stay in my lane,
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: just trying to do my thing, and I wasn't trying
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: to be personal, you know, wasn't trying to be bad
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: against my teammate.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: He actually had to he had to use the phrase,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: I'm not taking any questions. Yeah, he had to actually
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: use that phrase. So I think that he obviously was not.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: He's not super pumped in the way in which it's went.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's probably, you know, I mean, he's
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: not hung up too terribly much on the fact that
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: he's you know, zero for nine or whatever, even though
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: he wants to be doing better. I mean, for him,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: he cares more about the team winning than him having
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: some great WBC and then getting knocked out in the
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: first or second round, you know, or not making it
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: out of pool play.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: So I think that you're right.
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: I think the big thing is, you know, we heard
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: about Julio and how he said, you know, how much
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: this would mean winning the WBC for him. I don't
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: think for most American born players that's the case, because
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: they just don't. It's not the same. When you grow
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: up here, you're like, I would love to win the
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: World Series. That is the pinnacle. When you're in Latin America.
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: What they do there is. I mean, their winter ball
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: thing is off the charts.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: They want to be recognized that they are at the
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: same level as anyone out there, and this is their
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: opportunity to show that.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Yes one.
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: So to me, it's yeah, the idea of what he's
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: what he thought about all postse or all off season,
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: wasn't just winning the WBC and then we'll see what
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: happens in the regular season. His main thought was, I
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: want to win the World Series. I want to take
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: the you know, the Seattle Mariners in this fan base
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: to a place they've never been before. And then oh
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: and before that all goes down, I get to where
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: I get to have the pride of wearing the USA
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: across my chest and hopefully winning that tournament. So to me,
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: I'm with you. I think that he's I bet he's
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: pumped up about wanting to win this thing. He's I'm
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: sure he's wanting to be in the game tonight, and
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: yet when this thing's over, it's going to be okay.
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: Now it's back to the true mission at hand, and
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: that is leading the Seattle Mariners club.
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like he'd be very good at the
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: second it's over. It's like all right, business.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he might take a red eye, yeah.
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: Right, just to be back and ready to go tomorrow.
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: I wouldn't be surprised by that, because he just seems
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: like he's going to give it his all while he's there,
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: and because that's the kind of athlete he is. But
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: the second he's back to spring training, the earliest he
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: can be back to spring training, he's there and ready
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: to go.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I mean the pass ball, Yeah, it's about as uncharacteristic
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: a play as cal Rawley could even make you. And
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: so I don't know, I don't know. I don't know
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: if all of this, I mean, he's never had to
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: experience this before. He's never had to experience backlash before.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I'd never have to experience being raked over the coals
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: by an entire you know, generation of you know, of
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: communicators on social media.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: It's never had to I don't know if it has
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: bothered him. I don't know if it is.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: You know, I'd like to get back with my pitchers.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I'd like to get back in my comfort zone. I
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: don't know if it's affected his play whatsoever, but it
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: probably would have mine. Yeah, you know, it probably would
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: have affected me a little bit. Experiencing that for the
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: first time on this grand of a scale. Maybe it
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: has kept him from playing his absolute best in this WBC.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm sure that that Randy thing.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I'm sure that there's a big part of him, just
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: like I want to see Randy and I want to
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: get this thing buried. You know I would be I
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: mean you, no, I don't have the I don't know
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: if I have the mentality of a champion, but it
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: would bother me that that was still unsettled. And I'm
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: the captain of the baseball team, and I would want
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: to get in front of him and have this thing
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: hammered out as soon as possible. But you're still playing games,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: and you're trying to keep your focus on your present team,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: which is Team USA. I don't think he's going to
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: play tonight. I think Will Smith's going to get the start.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I know that Cal was the starting catcher when the
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: process began, but I think DeRos is going to probably
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: play the hotter hand right now and Will Smith will see.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: But maybe he's played his last pitch in the WBC.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: But I know there's a part of him. It's just
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: like I want to get back to being cal Rawley
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: of the Seattle Mariners, and I can't wait until I'm
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: back with my guys.
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, oh, I think that. I think it's definitely not nothing,
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: I'll say that. I mean it's I think that you
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: got to be able to be good at compartmentalizing to
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: be a baseball player, first and foremost, you got to
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: be able to just kind of get rid of things
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: you don't really want to think about and focus on
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: the things you need to. So I think he's doing that,
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: but the idea of wanting to get this as buried
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: as possible, get it put behind him, make sure that
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: it's he and Randy are on the same page, and hey,
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: we're good to go, right, I mean, this is what
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: this matters, right. I wasn't intending that as something negative
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: towards you personally. I'm sure that he's chomping at the
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: bit to get back there and do that. But first
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: things at hand, go out there and win one more
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: game and celebrate with your boys, and then get.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: To your real family. Yeah, welcome home.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I'm excited for everybody to get back to
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Peoria safely.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: I want all my little birdies in the nest.
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: YEP, tuck them all in, Mama bird feed him all right.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Coming up next, a little bit on the Seahawks secondary.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: It's experienced a little bit of change here in this
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: off season.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: Is everything Okay. Sports Radio ninety three point.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Three KJRFM, Chuck Buck and Ashley with you right here
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: on Chalking Back in the morning. Sports Radio ninety three
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: point three KJRFAM. Ever it fits you to join us
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: at eight thirty, don't forget it as a cracking ticket
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Tuesday Tree.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: You get those brackets filled out as well.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: It's kind of been weird that we haven't had just
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: football segment after football segment because it's dominated our lives
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: here recently. But a lot of other interesting things to discuss.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: And we are, of course coming out of the frenzy
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: and NFL free agency, but the Eastahawks are never far
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: from our thoughts, especially when you're world champions.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: And yes, there's been a little bit of shakeup in
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: the secondary.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Goneer Kobe Bryant and Rieke Woolan and in on really
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: cheap deals. Rodney Thomas and then Noah Igbinoghany.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Nailed it. Once you get.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Him down, once you get the difficult names down, you
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: love saying them more than any of the other names.
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: I was just say also, I can copy and paste that,
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: so next time you have to say it, just point
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: to me and I'll play it where you said it perfectly.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to see Noah play this year.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell was talking about the new cornerback. Yes, and
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: yes he's here on a cheap deal. But this is
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: a former first round draft pick. What does he bring
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: to the table?
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: Greg Bell?
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: It was the first round pick a few years ago
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: by the Miami Dolphins, and that means that they're not
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: the only team that was intrigued by him and got
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: traded to Davis And for the Commanders two years ago
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. He was a nickel defensive back and
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: primarily nickelback for them and got a lot of snapses.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Most of his career he was an injury replacement at
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: that position, and then last year past season twenty twenty five,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: he barely played. And he's known as a physical jam
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: the receiver off the line, corner, a little shorter, little
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: stock here. He's had problems tackling, which Washington people highlighted
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: quite a bit, which is usually a problem in Seattle.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: If you can't tackle outside. This is yet another John
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Schneider fringe, second third wave signing, probably adder just above
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: the league minimum for veterans million dollars, low risk. If
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: he doesn't work out, I've seen people saying, well, he
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: must be now the new wooln No. I think it's
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: clear that there will not be a three quarterback rotation
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: for two spots this year, and that the money they're
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: paying Joe of eight million dollars a year and the
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: money they're about to pay Witherspoon thirty plus million dollars
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: a year, I mean, those are the two guys. But
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: they'll try these guys that are now signing for low
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: risk deals, and if they don't fit into depth pieces
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: and special teams, they'll cut them.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: This is something to talk about at greater length at
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: another show. But I think this is the scariest thing
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  Speaker 2: facing the rest of the NFC West and the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the NFL for that matter. And look, it's a
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  Speaker 2: short sample size still. I mean, we got a World
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  Speaker 2: championship under our belt, but two years into Mike McDonald,
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  Speaker 2: the league tends to adjust. They're going to devour everything
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  Speaker 2: this offseason to try to figure out what it is
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  Speaker 2: that he was doing so right and they were doing
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  Speaker 2: so wrong against him, and so I mean, you got
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  Speaker 2: a target now on your chest. So they're going to
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  Speaker 2: exhaust hours the rest of the National Football League figure
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  Speaker 2: out why Mike McDonald was so successful so quickly, and.
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  Speaker 3: What we're going to do to counter that.
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  Speaker 2: That's what's going to happen throughout the National Football League,
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  Speaker 2: certainly in the NFC West. We've already seen it with
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  Speaker 2: some personnel decisions made by the forty.
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  Speaker 3: Nine ers in the RAMS.
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  Speaker 2: But the scary part for all of them Ty Ocotta
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  Speaker 2: and Drake Thomas, because those two guys didn't look like
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  Speaker 2: they belonged on an NFL field in preseason like that
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  Speaker 2: zero just like, oh, I hope we don't have to
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  Speaker 2: play ty Ocotta this year. Yeah, I mean that was
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  Speaker 2: sort of the notes that I wrote down. And if
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald is so good that he's like John, we
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  Speaker 2: don't need to spend big money. Look what I did
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  Speaker 2: with Okata and Thomas. What I need are guys who
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  Speaker 2: are intelligent, who get the system, who are coachable, who
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  Speaker 2: are violent and physical. Those are the guy and the
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  Speaker 2: guys I need. You give me those guys. There are
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  Speaker 2: some areas we need to spend big money on. We
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  Speaker 2: can't lose JSN. But I can fill in the cracks.
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  Speaker 2: Trust me on this. If he's able to repeat that,
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  Speaker 2: if he's able to take an Igbinogheny who didn't work
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  Speaker 2: out with three his other two teams, and he shows
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  Speaker 2: the world you can averariqu woman at fifteen million dollars,
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  Speaker 2: I'll take that cornerback for one million, and I'll probably
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  Speaker 2: get a better player if he does that.
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  Speaker 3: I would be terrified if I'm the rest of the
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  Speaker 3: NFC West.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm with you on that, because I mean, you
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  Speaker 6: can have a target on your back and people can
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  Speaker 6: dissect the tape all they want and try to find flaws, right,
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I remember Hugh talking about the complexity of
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  Speaker 6: the defense, unlike what Pete Carroll did when he had
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  Speaker 6: Legion of Boom that was just kind of cutting dry.
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  Speaker 6: This is what we do. Good luck trying to stop it.
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  Speaker 6: We got the guys that you can't really and so
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  Speaker 6: to me, the idea of there's little moments in time
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  Speaker 6: when people are shifting, excuse me, and that you end
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  Speaker 6: up needing to you could have a hole in that defense.
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  Speaker 6: You can dissect that. But you can't dissect if he
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  Speaker 6: turns people from decent ballplayers to good ones, or good
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  Speaker 6: ones to great ones.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's scary.
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  Speaker 2: Well, like I said, talk about it at a greater
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  Speaker 2: length at a future show. But coming up next we
• 35:28
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