Latest / Parent's Talk with Francine Juhlin / Episode 9: Want confident kids_ A neuroscientist explains how!
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Have you ever considered what neuroscience could do in helping
- 0:05Speaker 1: you raise a confident kid? Well, I have Dr. Rob
- 0:10Speaker 1: Kelly here with me today, who is the absolute expert
- 0:15Speaker 1: on the field. Dr. Rob, tell everybody who you are
- 0:19Speaker 1: and what you do, please.
- 0:20Speaker 2: Thanks, Francine. Hey, guys, my name is Dr. Rob Kelly
- 0:23Speaker 2: over in San Antonio, Texas. But as you can tell,
- 0:26Speaker 2: by my accent, I'm not from Texas. I'm from a
- 0:29Speaker 2: little old place called Manchester, England. I've been in America
- 0:33Speaker 2: for 20 years and we specialize in neuroscience, the mind,
- 0:37Speaker 2: the behavior problems, behavioral problems, anything from anxiety to addictions,
- 0:42Speaker 2: alcoholism to, you know, doing better as a father or
- 0:45Speaker 2: mother because I lost my children when they were ages
- 0:49Speaker 2: one and three and never contacted them again from 30
- 0:53Speaker 2: years later. So, You know, we found out about the neuroscience,
- 0:57Speaker 2: the learned behavior and enmeshment from parents into children and
- 1:01Speaker 2: how everything that the child does today, whether they be
- 1:05Speaker 2: three years old or 30 years old, is a direct
- 1:09Speaker 2: link to what happened in the house. Not necessarily parents,
- 1:12Speaker 2: but caregivers and teachers and how we can change that.
- 1:16Speaker 1: Well, that's absolute too. Anybody who's listened to this podcast
- 1:19Speaker 1: knows that my key moment in life was eight years
- 1:23Speaker 1: old when my aunt said, you'd be such a pretty
- 1:25Speaker 1: girl if you just lost some weight. And that set
- 1:27Speaker 1: me down that spiral of unhealthy eating and dieting and, well,
- 1:33Speaker 1: almost killing myself. So I'd love that you really drill
- 1:40Speaker 1: in on what childhood programming is does to kids and
- 1:46Speaker 1: how we can prevent those negative programs.
- 1:50Speaker 2: When we talk about childhood trauma, most people think it's
- 1:52Speaker 2: a car crash or a divorce or accident. And what
- 1:56Speaker 2: our research on neuroscience, and we spent almost $ 2 million
- 1:59Speaker 2: on research pertaining to behavioral and psychological damage that's done
- 2:06Speaker 2: as we grew up in the house, is they plant seeds,
- 2:10Speaker 2: you know, you'd be, you'd be so much period only
- 2:13Speaker 2: if you, and that end saying the end couple of lines,
- 2:16Speaker 2: it was what defines us going on. So it doesn't
- 2:19Speaker 2: matter how we look, what's planted in the subconscious brain
- 2:22Speaker 2: is that you need to lose weight. So you grew up,
- 2:25Speaker 2: they grew up, children grew up with the attitude that
- 2:27Speaker 2: they're never going to be tall enough, blonde enough, thin enough,
- 2:29Speaker 2: or rich enough. It's like, no matter what we do,
- 2:32Speaker 2: there's always a defect there. And by, by education, parents
- 2:36Speaker 2: and caregivers and teachers, I want to just say that
- 2:39Speaker 2: this is nobody's fault. I just want to put that
- 2:42Speaker 2: out there because there's no big books that come with
- 2:44Speaker 2: raising a child. Oh, I failed you. No, you didn't.
- 2:47Speaker 2: You know, you did what you thought was right. Even
- 2:51Speaker 2: in addiction, you thought what was right or you was
- 2:54Speaker 2: deranged or your mind wasn't working properly and the brain
- 2:57Speaker 2: was a defect is what happened. But everybody has a
- 3:01Speaker 2: chance today, new parents and old parents, to change behavior
- 3:06Speaker 2: and to change thought patterns. As a toddler running around
- 3:10Speaker 2: the kitchen, for instance, if mom says to child, don't
- 3:14Speaker 2: touch that stove, it's hot and it burns you. And
- 3:17Speaker 2: we touch it because we're kids and it burns us.
- 3:21Speaker 2: The biggest thing we learn there as a child is
- 3:23Speaker 2: whatever mom tells us is true. That's it. So let's
- 3:27Speaker 2: switch that scenario to her, you know, getting a bit older,
- 3:31Speaker 2: maybe six, seven, eight, nine. Dad comes home two or
- 3:34Speaker 2: three times a week after being to the bar. He's drunk.
- 3:37Speaker 2: Mom and him gets into a fist fight two or
- 3:40Speaker 2: three times a week. She sees this going on. And
- 3:43Speaker 2: the next morning they get up. And what does dad say?
- 3:46Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. And she said, oh, I love you.
- 3:48Speaker 2: Don't worry, hubby. I love you. And the child's watching this.
- 3:51Speaker 2: And then what the child grows up to believe is
- 3:53Speaker 2: violence equals love. There's these small things that we see
- 3:57Speaker 2: in the house that define our thoughts and our personalities
- 4:03Speaker 2: and our behavior going forward.
- 4:04Speaker 1: Well, you just hit it right on the head. I
- 4:07Speaker 1: remember watching my mom say, well, I'm stuck. There's nothing
- 4:12Speaker 1: I can do. I can't, you know, this is all
- 4:15Speaker 1: I've got. And regardless of where we were in our lives,
- 4:19Speaker 1: she always felt like that was the best she could get,
- 4:21Speaker 1: the best she could do. And I grew up with
- 4:24Speaker 1: that too, even when I got out of the military
- 4:28Speaker 1: and I stayed with the military for 33 years because
- 4:31Speaker 1: I said, wow, this is just a great thing. It's
- 4:34Speaker 1: the best I could do. It's security. I'm making a
- 4:37Speaker 1: good paycheck. And then when I retired and I started
- 4:42Speaker 1: my entrepreneurship journey, then I kept getting these negative programs
- 4:49Speaker 1: from childhood saying, well, I'm going to keep driving my
- 4:54Speaker 1: old car, even though it's breaking down because it's the
- 4:57Speaker 1: best I could do right now. And I am going
- 5:00Speaker 1: to stick with these clients who aren't really ready to
- 5:06Speaker 1: be with me because, well, it's the best that I
- 5:10Speaker 1: could do right now. And I had to break that
- 5:15Speaker 1: negative program cycle to move beyond what my mom programmed
- 5:20Speaker 1: in my head.
- 5:22Speaker 2: So.
- 5:23Speaker 1: How would you explain to parents how to see the
- 5:28Speaker 1: signs and how to start breaking these cycles?
- 5:32Speaker 2: So everything from parents to children is passed down. It's
- 5:34Speaker 2: called a measurement and learned behavior from parents. So we
- 5:39Speaker 2: wanted to prove this was right with all sorts of
- 5:42Speaker 2: stuff that we come across. We got a thousand fleas
- 5:45Speaker 2: in a mason jar, a huge big mason jar. And
- 5:49Speaker 2: we screwed the cap on and we punched holes in
- 5:50Speaker 2: the top and we left them for three days. Now,
- 5:53Speaker 2: fleas can jump three, four, five foot in the air,
- 5:56Speaker 2: as we know. After three days, we unscrewed the cap
- 5:58Speaker 2: and we put the cap away somewhere. Not one flea
- 6:01Speaker 2: would jump higher than where the cap was, which we're
- 6:04Speaker 2: kind of expecting that. But we left them in there.
- 6:06Speaker 2: And then when they had babies inside the jar, the
- 6:08Speaker 2: babies wouldn't jump higher than where the cap was and
- 6:10Speaker 2: they'd never even seen the cap. So we do what
- 6:13Speaker 2: our parents, you know, if we can achieve what our
- 6:16Speaker 2: parents do, then we max out at that. where parents
- 6:21Speaker 2: are on this thin line. If I push them too much,
- 6:23Speaker 2: they'll resent me. If I don't push them enough, they'll
- 6:24Speaker 2: resent me. And we always want to do as good
- 6:28Speaker 2: as our parents. But I think the idea is, the
- 6:31Speaker 2: more we get talking over the last 20 years about this,
- 6:33Speaker 2: is parents want us to do better. And I think
- 6:36Speaker 2: that's where it lies, the communication, the teaching, and stuff
- 6:39Speaker 2: like that. If you're allowing your child to come home
- 6:42Speaker 2: from school at 3, 4 o'clock and go gaming upstairs
- 6:45Speaker 2: until 9 p.m. at nighttime, first of all, I'll show
- 6:48Speaker 2: you a future addict's And secondly, it is distorting the mind.
- 6:52Speaker 2: There's nothing there, you know, is not going to grow
- 6:55Speaker 2: up the same. So nurturing is the number one thing
- 6:58Speaker 2: that we talk about. I'm busy. We both have jobs. Yeah,
- 7:04Speaker 2: we know that. Most people today have to have man
- 7:07Speaker 2: and woman working to afford a mortgage or rent. But
- 7:10Speaker 2: when you get home, when you get the quality time,
- 7:12Speaker 2: when you get time to nurture, most people don't because
- 7:14Speaker 2: they're tired. Again, nobody's fault here. They're tired. And then
- 7:19Speaker 2: what happens is they get neglected. Now, listen, this saying
- 7:24Speaker 2: might seem harsh, but it's true. With 30 years experience
- 7:27Speaker 2: in the industry is anything less than nurturing as a
- 7:31Speaker 2: child is child abuse. Think about that real hard before
- 7:35Speaker 2: you shower the screen. What does he know? It's so true.
- 7:39Speaker 2: You know, for my part of my behavioral science PhD,
- 7:44Speaker 2: my professor sent me to the zoo for a year
- 7:46Speaker 2: to watch the primates. through the wind, the freezing, the snow.
- 7:51Speaker 2: I hated that guy for that. But we learned so
- 7:54Speaker 2: much there of the nurturing and stuff. So whenever you
- 7:57Speaker 2: get a choice with children, one must be nurturing and
- 8:01Speaker 2: taking care and being there and listening and directing and
- 8:05Speaker 2: realize that everything you do, the child will do. Monkey see,
- 8:09Speaker 2: monkey do. So if you're not keeping yourself to a
- 8:13Speaker 2: certain standard or routines and stuff, the child will follow that.
- 8:17Speaker 2: So if you have no dreams and aspirations, like most
- 8:19Speaker 2: of my people in my family didn't, again, no fault,
- 8:23Speaker 2: then I was supposed to follow rank. I was supposed
- 8:26Speaker 2: to get married early, have a child that I wed love,
- 8:29Speaker 2: then get married, have a job at the factory around
- 8:32Speaker 2: the corner, Friday night drink with the rest of the
- 8:35Speaker 2: guys and go home. That was it for me. All
- 8:36Speaker 2: my family's done that. And I wanted different. Now, growing
- 8:40Speaker 2: up an alcoholic or addict, I still ruin my children's
- 8:43Speaker 2: life because of my drinking habits. I had to go
- 8:46Speaker 2: into treatment centers, and eventually my wife left with her
- 8:48Speaker 2: two children. But we get a chance to make it
- 8:52Speaker 2: up in the future. And I think the idea of
- 8:55Speaker 2: normal parenting, I don't believe in normal parenting because there
- 9:00Speaker 2: isn't normal parenting. Every child is different. Every parent is different.
- 9:03Speaker 2: Every circumstance is different. And we must try to work
- 9:08Speaker 2: out a relationship with our child. One of the things
- 9:11Speaker 2: I hate, Francine, is, oh, we're like sisters. We're like
- 9:16Speaker 2: best friends. No, you're the parent. Parent the child. You're
- 9:21Speaker 2: not best friends. You're not sisters and twins. No, you're parent, okay?
- 9:26Speaker 2: Stop letting your kid come home and game all night
- 9:28Speaker 2: and stuff like that. I have rules and regulations in
- 9:31Speaker 2: the house that will bode them well for future life.
- 9:34Speaker 1: One thing you said before that really just planted in
- 9:38Speaker 1: my brain, and I have to talk about it, You said, parents,
- 9:43Speaker 1: don't get mad at me for saying this. Well, in
- 9:48Speaker 1: my mind, if a parent got mad at you for
- 9:51Speaker 1: saying that, I hope they stuck around to listen to more.
- 9:55Speaker 1: Because if it struck a nerve in them, they're seeing
- 9:58Speaker 1: something of themselves. in what you said so can you
- 10:03Speaker 1: address that.
- 10:04Speaker 2: I mean they're harsh words but they're true i mean
- 10:07Speaker 2: it's very oh they're more we get into behavioral science
- 10:09Speaker 2: uh so neuroscience and behavioral science holds the key to
- 10:13Speaker 2: our life or the future and what we know today
- 10:15Speaker 2: pertains to any kind of psych behavior or limb behavior
- 10:17Speaker 2: that we do So it's very important that we realize
- 10:21Speaker 2: that nurturing is number one. Again, you might have jobs,
- 10:25Speaker 2: two jobs, three jobs. I know, but every time you
- 10:28Speaker 2: spend with your child, it's going to be precious and nurturing.
- 10:30Speaker 2: If the child is told like I was, that don't
- 10:34Speaker 2: be so stupid, Robert. You can't go to college. You know,
- 10:36Speaker 2: you're too stupid. Nobody's been to college in your family.
- 10:40Speaker 2: That would be just ridiculous. Then that's what I'm going
- 10:43Speaker 2: to believe. Whatever somebody tells you on a regular basis,
- 10:47Speaker 2: especially growing up, you believe as a child. So the
- 10:50Speaker 2: part of the brain is called the basal ganglia. It's
- 10:52Speaker 2: our repetition strength and confirm. So if I tell you
- 10:56Speaker 2: a lie now, you might believe it, you might not.
- 10:57Speaker 2: If I tell you a lie often enough, you're going
- 10:59Speaker 2: to believe it. But guess what? If I tell you
- 11:01Speaker 2: a lie real often enough, I'm going to believe the lie.
- 11:05Speaker 2: So what we tell our children, this time we've spent
- 11:07Speaker 2: with our children is very, very important. Sometimes it's a
- 11:11Speaker 2: matter of life and death. If we place them in situations,
- 11:14Speaker 2: we allow them to get away with stuff at home.
- 11:16Speaker 2: It's like everybody's busy. I know that, guys. But it's
- 11:19Speaker 2: important that you give your child the best chance going forward.
- 11:23Speaker 2: And this is regardless if you're growing up on the
- 11:25Speaker 2: projects like me or you're growing up in a million-dollar house.
- 11:29Speaker 2: I've seen more trauma in $ 20 million houses, Francine, than
- 11:33Speaker 2: I have on the projects. It's because money does not,
- 11:37Speaker 2: you know, void you away from not raising the child properly.
- 11:40Speaker 2: It's to the contrary. So we have to look at
- 11:43Speaker 2: these facts and figures and realize that during that prime
- 11:47Speaker 2: time is when you really have to nurture and stick
- 11:50Speaker 2: with the nurturing. And you're not going to get any
- 11:52Speaker 2: thanks for it, parents. You're not going to get any
- 11:54Speaker 2: attaboys for it. But what you'll get is a child
- 11:56Speaker 2: making a sensible decision at the right time that I'll
- 11:59Speaker 2: either take him down this way or this way. And
- 12:03Speaker 2: then you'll start to realize that you had a huge impact.
- 12:05Speaker 2: Most men want to be like their dad. Most women don't.
- 12:09Speaker 2: most girls with mom with dad sorry but they want
- 12:14Speaker 2: to be like mom so raise them standards just a
- 12:16Speaker 2: little bit you know food etiquette knives and fork I
- 12:19Speaker 2: don't care what it is just make them aware of
- 12:22Speaker 2: something that they don't know and the change will be
- 12:25Speaker 2: amazing and if.
- 12:28Speaker 1: Your teenager hates you. You're doing something right.
- 12:31Speaker 2: Something good. Yes. Yes. She just said she hates me.
- 12:37Speaker 2: Let me guess. Is she 14? How did you know?
- 12:39Speaker 2: We're supposed to be hated at 14.
- 12:40Speaker 1: Right.
- 12:41Speaker 2: It's all good.
- 12:42Speaker 1: But the problem lies in the parent who is a
- 12:46Speaker 1: people pleaser. Oh. And all they want to do is
- 12:50Speaker 1: please the kid. Oh, my God, my daughter hates me.
- 12:53Speaker 1: So then they overcompensate to please the child, which is
- 12:58Speaker 1: the worst thing a parent could do. Yeah.
- 13:03Speaker 2: And again, that's just natural behavior. It's like there has
- 13:06Speaker 2: to be limits on everything that we do. But yeah,
- 13:09Speaker 2: I did this, you know, something. So five years ago,
- 13:14Speaker 2: maybe six years ago, my daughter got in contact with me.
- 13:17Speaker 2: The last time she saw me, I was homeless, begging
- 13:19Speaker 2: on the streets. Now she gets older than me. I
- 13:23Speaker 2: have companies worth multimillion dollars. I have four companies. So
- 13:27Speaker 2: what's the first thing I did when we get in
- 13:28Speaker 2: touch and we're all great? I bought her a house
- 13:31Speaker 2: and then I bought her a car. That was five
- 13:35Speaker 2: or six years ago. And my friend come on and went, ah, ah, ah,
- 13:38Speaker 2: that's not the way to win her back, Rob. We
- 13:41Speaker 2: have to learn even at the age of 36 or
- 13:42Speaker 2: whatever she was, uh, you know, that you can't just
- 13:47Speaker 2: keep providing. Because that's what I did all my life.
- 13:49Speaker 2: I provided, when I was in active alcoholism, I had
- 13:54Speaker 2: my business, I had an amazing job. I was earning
- 13:56Speaker 2: lots of money and I would buy stuff for them. But,
- 13:59Speaker 2: you know, I built a playhouse on the back of
- 14:01Speaker 2: the house just for them, two little girls to play in.
- 14:04Speaker 2: What they didn't know is I built it so I
- 14:05Speaker 2: could drink in the afternoon while they were playing in there.
- 14:09Speaker 2: I had brand new cars that I would drive them
- 14:11Speaker 2: to school in because I wanted everybody at school, including
- 14:14Speaker 2: their teachers, to realize that Charlotte's father is very wealthy
- 14:18Speaker 2: and he's made it. And look at him, he's amazing.
- 14:21Speaker 2: And during talks over the last four years with my daughter,
- 14:24Speaker 2: she said to me something that floored me one day.
- 14:27Speaker 2: He said, remember when... I said, yeah, that was a
- 14:29Speaker 2: brand new Mercedes, Charlie. Top of the class Mercedes. And
- 14:32Speaker 2: she looked at me and said, Dad, I didn't care
- 14:34Speaker 2: about all that stuff. I just wanted you to say
- 14:36Speaker 2: hi and spend some time with me. Oops. That still
- 14:41Speaker 2: gets me. So again, you know, Money can't buy love,
- 14:45Speaker 2: you know. Time and nurturing buys everything that a child needs.
- 14:53Speaker 1: And it doesn't even take a lot, just sitting there
- 14:57Speaker 1: together and reading a story for 10 minutes a night.
- 15:01Speaker 2: That's it. The story, nurturing, you know. I know for
- 15:04Speaker 2: a fact I could go to my mom for anything.
- 15:07Speaker 2: My dad was very quiet, never said a word. But
- 15:09Speaker 2: my mom, if I murdered somebody, went home, she'd cover
- 15:12Speaker 2: for me. You know, it was that kind of relationship. Mom,
- 15:15Speaker 2: I did this. I did something stupid. And a biggest
- 15:17Speaker 2: rule growing up with the children is never being the
- 15:19Speaker 2: police to our doorstep. That was a big thing for
- 15:21Speaker 2: the family. And I brought the police to our doorstep
- 15:23Speaker 2: on several occasions. So, you know, but yeah, it's relationships
- 15:28Speaker 2: are complicated if you let them be complicated. But it's simple.
- 15:32Speaker 2: Like I, during my drinking, used to go upstairs with
- 15:36Speaker 2: my two girls and read them a bedtime story. Now.
- 15:40Speaker 2: They still remember that today. They didn't realize I was
- 15:42Speaker 2: drunk and wasted, but they realized that I took the
- 15:44Speaker 2: time for 20 minutes a night, sat on their beds,
- 15:47Speaker 2: reading them a story. And you can show that the
- 15:50Speaker 2: confidence from that reflects in their daily life to even today,
- 15:54Speaker 2: all them years on.
- 15:54Speaker 1: And I love hearing that, of course, because I'm a
- 15:57Speaker 1: children's author. Read to your kids. It's important, which is
- 16:01Speaker 1: why I write the books.
- 16:03Speaker 2: Probably one of the most important things you're going to
- 16:05Speaker 2: do at that age is reading them a book, get
- 16:08Speaker 2: them into literature. Like your job is amazing, what you do, because,
- 16:12Speaker 2: you know, I don't know what your mindset around is,
- 16:14Speaker 2: but you write these beautiful books, you know, and kids
- 16:17Speaker 2: get to read them. But then we dig deeper into
- 16:19Speaker 2: the psychology behind that.
- 16:21Speaker 1: I never told you this, but I wrote an adult
- 16:23Speaker 1: self-help book and I listened to feedback from my audiences
- 16:28Speaker 1: when I was out speaking about them. And they said
- 16:31Speaker 1: the young kids need to hear this. So my children's
- 16:34Speaker 1: books are snippets from my adult self-help, the six step
- 16:38Speaker 1: process of personal change. And I just break it down
- 16:42Speaker 1: so the kids could understand it and enjoy the stories.
- 16:46Speaker 2: I love that planting seeds in children, you know, from
- 16:49Speaker 2: adult conversations or stories. It's amazing. You know, it's, we're
- 16:53Speaker 2: all on development growth, even at the age of I'm 65.
- 16:56Speaker 2: Now I take really good care of myself, um, and
- 16:59Speaker 2: the best condition of my life. Um, I can do
- 17:03Speaker 2: anything I want to do. And that basically comes back
- 17:05Speaker 2: to my mom telling me that years ago, like when
- 17:08Speaker 2: I was growing up. And it was only like 10%
- 17:11Speaker 2: of her whole life. The rest was you can't do it.
- 17:13Speaker 2: It's just stupid. You're reaching beyond. She always scared of
- 17:16Speaker 2: me getting hurt. So she didn't want me to think here.
- 17:19Speaker 2: She'd rather me think here and stay safe. God bless
- 17:21Speaker 2: her for doing that. But yeah, it's just children have
- 17:25Speaker 2: to realize as they get into teenagers that everything is
- 17:30Speaker 2: for the taking. I mean, it really is, but you
- 17:32Speaker 2: have to have a foundation of love, uh, parents around you.
- 17:35Speaker 2: So if you're growing up one parent family for whatever reason,
- 17:39Speaker 2: it's tough. It really, you know, it really is tough.
- 17:41Speaker 2: So the more nurturing you can give the better. Now
- 17:43Speaker 2: does nurturing mean let them do anything they want to do? No,
- 17:46Speaker 2: there has to be rules and regulations because when they
- 17:48Speaker 2: leave the nice, comfortable, do anything you want to do
- 17:50Speaker 2: inside his house and they get into a harsh reality
- 17:53Speaker 2: at school, you know, once, once the mind starts to, uh,
- 17:57Speaker 2: settle down and make sure it's whole about 23, 22,
- 18:01Speaker 2: 23 years old, then the world is open to anything
- 18:04Speaker 2: you want to do. Because I say this all of
- 18:08Speaker 2: the time. I would hate anybody to get to the
- 18:10Speaker 2: age of 80 or 90, look back in their lives
- 18:13Speaker 2: and realize two crucial things. Number one, nobody was watching you.
- 18:18Speaker 2: And number two, you really could have done anything you
- 18:20Speaker 2: wanted to do. And I think that thought plan and
- 18:23Speaker 2: behavior comes from nurturing as a child.
- 18:27Speaker 1: What's really funny in what you're saying is when I
- 18:31Speaker 1: decided I wanted to join the Navy, I had my
- 18:35Speaker 1: father telling me, you'll never make it through boot camp.
- 18:41Speaker 1: And my mom telling me, you're so clumsy, you'll shoot
- 18:44Speaker 1: your foot off. But I didn't listen to this negative talk.
- 18:52Speaker 1: I decided, well, dad said girls don't need to go
- 18:56Speaker 1: to college. Well, I wanted to do something. I didn't
- 18:58Speaker 1: want to be in a dead end job for the
- 19:00Speaker 1: rest of my life. So I said, this is my opportunity.
- 19:05Speaker 1: And I don't care what they said. I'm going to
- 19:07Speaker 1: prove them wrong. So if you put your child in
- 19:10Speaker 1: a position where they're going to want to prove you wrong,
- 19:14Speaker 1: make sure that it's something positive and growth.
- 19:19Speaker 2: And you don't want to set the sights too high, but.
- 19:23Speaker 2: It's just negative thinking from their parents. That's all it is.
- 19:26Speaker 2: They stayed safe. They made sure that, you know, but yeah,
- 19:30Speaker 2: it's really important that we want the best for our children.
- 19:33Speaker 2: And again, the first time when I start speaking about
- 19:37Speaker 2: responsibilities as a child, a parent or teacher, they want
- 19:40Speaker 2: to start saying, well, it's not my fault. No, no, no, no.
- 19:43Speaker 2: It's definitely not your fault. No one's blaming anybody here.
- 19:46Speaker 2: Even if you had all the rules and regulations in
- 19:48Speaker 2: front of you, there's a thing called life out. there
- 19:50Speaker 2: and it gets in the way. And time is flying
- 19:53Speaker 2: by all of the time. So I think when we
- 19:56Speaker 2: sit down, we have a family systems program here. When
- 19:58Speaker 2: we sit everybody down, that's the first thing we say.
- 20:00Speaker 2: There's no fault in this room. I don't care what
- 20:03Speaker 2: dad's drinking himself to death or he's caused this or
- 20:05Speaker 2: she's not going to. There's no fault here. We need
- 20:07Speaker 2: to restructure the family and the family thinking. And the
- 20:10Speaker 2: nurturing and everything else will start falling into place. Even
- 20:13Speaker 2: if your child is 40 years old, it's never too late.
- 20:17Speaker 2: I was about 45 when I came to America. And
- 20:23Speaker 2: I had a partner. And I split with my partner
- 20:26Speaker 2: 10 years ago. And I left everything to her. I
- 20:29Speaker 2: left the houses, the cars, the ranches, the money. I
- 20:31Speaker 2: left a million dollars in the bank. I left that
- 20:34Speaker 2: relationship with $ 200 in my pocket 11 years ago. Uh,
- 20:39Speaker 2: I met my wife today and w and we started
- 20:42Speaker 2: 11 years ago and we build, we build empire. So
- 20:45Speaker 2: it's never too late. It really isn't. I, I hate
- 20:48Speaker 2: you when people put timeframes on our lives, like, you know, well,
- 20:51Speaker 2: you told to do this says who I, I, I,
- 20:55Speaker 2: so I, this is what I was told, uh, three
- 20:59Speaker 2: years ago. So I always, as a, as a British
- 21:01Speaker 2: man wanting to go into a British restaurant in Texas.
- 21:05Speaker 2: or Irish pub, and to meet one Irish person or
- 21:08Speaker 2: one English person in them places and make me a
- 21:11Speaker 2: British sandwich. And nobody can. They get a burger, they
- 21:14Speaker 2: stick a flag on it and call it a London burger.
- 21:16Speaker 2: So I decided three or four years ago to open
- 21:19Speaker 2: a full-blown English restaurant next to my offices, serving all
- 21:24Speaker 2: English food. People thought I was insane. My financial guys
- 21:27Speaker 2: were like, this is the biggest mistake you're ever going
- 21:30Speaker 2: to make. You're going to stick like a quarter of
- 21:32Speaker 2: a million dollars in this place? You've lost it already.
- 21:34Speaker 2: It was four years ago. We're in the top 12%
- 21:37Speaker 2: of performing restaurants in San Antonio. But if I were
- 21:40Speaker 2: to listen to those, but I questioned it. And the
- 21:44Speaker 2: answer was, well, my mom and dad always says, says who?
- 21:48Speaker 2: Is that right though? I mean, are you happy living
- 21:51Speaker 2: the way you're living or do you want to change
- 21:53Speaker 2: your life? Are you happy the way you've grown up
- 21:56Speaker 2: and you want better for your children? These are the
- 21:59Speaker 2: questions that are great to ask yourselves is of course
- 22:03Speaker 2: we do. So very quick story. about children growing up
- 22:08Speaker 2: and what they believe. We went into a primary school
- 22:12Speaker 2: many years ago, just after college. My friend was the
- 22:15Speaker 2: headmaster of private school, and the children were something from
- 22:18Speaker 2: like 7 to 12. And we asked them, can we
- 22:23Speaker 2: come in and test your children? We have this exam,
- 22:25Speaker 2: this test, and basically what it does, it reveals the
- 22:28Speaker 2: top three students in your school. And he said, well,
- 22:31Speaker 2: that's impossible. And I said, no, you know, we're psychologists,
- 22:34Speaker 2: we just want to try it. And he Because it's you, Rob. Okay,
- 22:37Speaker 2: we'll try it. So we spoke to the board and
- 22:39Speaker 2: everyone agreed. And we went down and we handed the
- 22:41Speaker 2: test out. It's about 20, 30 kids. 20 minutes. It's
- 22:45Speaker 2: all filled in. Just general questions. We went back. And
- 22:49Speaker 2: we'll say, we'll be back tomorrow with our top three.
- 22:51Speaker 2: So we went back. Remember, true story, guys. We went
- 22:54Speaker 2: back and we said, here's your top three. You have Jimmy, Bill,
- 22:56Speaker 2: and I can't remember their names. And he's like, Billy?
- 22:59Speaker 2: Are you sure? Billy Johnson. Yep, Billy Johnson. Oh, wow.
- 23:03Speaker 2: That surprised us. And then there's Tony. Tony. Oh, all right.
- 23:08Speaker 2: And Julie. Wow. I'm not sure about this, Rob. Well,
- 23:12Speaker 2: we'll be back in a year's time. Please don't contact me.
- 23:15Speaker 2: We'll see how it goes. So when we pulled up
- 23:17Speaker 2: in a year's time, we'd made all the phone calls.
- 23:19Speaker 2: We were there at 12 o'clock. And when we got there,
- 23:22Speaker 2: not only were all the staff and the board were outside,
- 23:24Speaker 2: but the parents were outside as well. And we got
- 23:27Speaker 2: off and the headmaster run up. He said, Rob, how
- 23:29Speaker 2: did you do it? And I says, do what? How
- 23:32Speaker 2: did you do it, man? We need to call the
- 23:33Speaker 2: government now. We need to get that test into the
- 23:36Speaker 2: government because this is unbelievable. And we took them inside,
- 23:39Speaker 2: no parents, just the board. And we sat down and said,
- 23:42Speaker 2: here's how we did it. We come to your school
- 23:45Speaker 2: with the test papers. Everyone filled them in. On the
- 23:48Speaker 2: way home, we actually ditched them in the trash. We
- 23:50Speaker 2: threw them away. And we got home and we picked
- 23:53Speaker 2: three random people out of your school, three random kids.
- 23:57Speaker 2: And then we come back the next day and we
- 23:58Speaker 2: told you that they were geniuses and they were going
- 24:01Speaker 2: to be captains of industry and stuff. And he said,
- 24:03Speaker 2: I don't get it. So I said, well, we chose
- 24:05Speaker 2: the three random kids and we told you that they
- 24:08Speaker 2: were going to be geniuses and because you treated them
- 24:11Speaker 2: as such, so they become. True story.
- 24:14Speaker 1: Wow, I just got the chills on that one.
- 24:17Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 24:18Speaker 1: That's amazing.
- 24:20Speaker 2: So what you tell your children you can do, they
- 24:22Speaker 2: will become. But you've got to, you know, convince yourself
- 24:24Speaker 2: and then them that things open up to the world.
- 24:27Speaker 2: There's no limits. Everyone's putting limits on stuff. There's no
- 24:31Speaker 2: limits here, guys or girls. girls who are growing up
- 24:34Speaker 2: wanting to do a pilot or an astronaut. There's no limits.
- 24:38Speaker 1: I was an aircraft electrician for the military. So yeah,
- 24:44Speaker 1: there are no limits. And I'm not even an athletic person.
- 24:48Speaker 1: So there is no limits. And trust me, whatever you
- 24:54Speaker 1: tell yourself, whether it's positive or negative, your brain believes it.
- 24:58Speaker 1: So you might as well just tell it the good stuff.
- 25:01Speaker 2: The brain doesn't know the difference between the truth and
- 25:03Speaker 2: the false, guys. It can't tell reality to fake. It
- 25:06Speaker 2: just can't. So whatever you feed it, it will run with.
- 25:10Speaker 2: So if you convince yourself or keep saying, I'm going
- 25:13Speaker 2: to do this or I'm going to get that job,
- 25:15Speaker 2: it'll happen because the brain's just following your internal dialogue
- 25:18Speaker 2: and suggestions. Now, add that with the way you're brought
- 25:22Speaker 2: up and the belief system that you have from the
- 25:24Speaker 2: family system and you will become that person. There was
- 25:27Speaker 2: something in your life, Francine, when somebody said to you,
- 25:29Speaker 2: you can do this, you'll be amazing at this. Even
- 25:32Speaker 2: if it was a remark that the conscious brain didn't
- 25:34Speaker 2: pick up, like a conversation at nighttime that you heard
- 25:37Speaker 2: from mom and dad as you were going, whatever it
- 25:39Speaker 2: was planted that that can halfway convinced you that you
- 25:43Speaker 2: can go and do anything you want. And so you did.
- 25:45Speaker 2: And that's the way the brain works.
- 25:47Speaker 1: I remember that during the run. I don't think I can,
- 25:50Speaker 1: but I know I can. I don't think I can,
- 25:52Speaker 1: but I know I can. And one time I really couldn't.
- 25:55Speaker 1: I had an asthma attack and somebody, I don't even
- 25:59Speaker 1: know who it was, grabbed the name tag off my
- 26:02Speaker 1: shirt and put it on his shirt and crossed the
- 26:04Speaker 1: finish line. So even though I physically couldn't do it,
- 26:08Speaker 1: I still passed the test.
- 26:09Speaker 2: Wow.
- 26:12Speaker 1: I just put it in my head. Somehow I'm going
- 26:14Speaker 1: to stay in the army. Nice.
- 26:18Speaker 2: I love it.
- 26:19Speaker 1: And parents, you could do it too, and you could
- 26:23Speaker 1: help your.
- 26:23Speaker 2: Kids do that. 100%. Once you start to believe that, guys,
- 26:28Speaker 2: it'll happen. It really will.
- 26:30Speaker 1: It's all a matter of what you believe.
- 26:33Speaker 2: Correct. Yeah. And that's been backed by quantum physics, quantum
- 26:38Speaker 2: science for many, many years. It's like what we believe
- 26:42Speaker 2: we will become, but it's what you believe in. It's
- 26:44Speaker 2: been planted at an early date, you know, what's my
- 26:47Speaker 2: belief system of what I can achieve in life. And
- 26:51Speaker 2: you will achieve it.
- 26:53Speaker 1: Well, on that note, how can people get in touch
- 26:56Speaker 1: with you or get more of your world?
- 27:00Speaker 2: So if you're listening, not watching, you'll notice if you're
- 27:03Speaker 2: watching a spell name with two B's, R-O-B-B-K-E-L-O-Y.com is the website.
- 27:09Speaker 2: Jump on there. You'll see some, we have a software
- 27:12Speaker 2: on there. The company's called breathbox.studio. It's one of my companies.
- 27:16Speaker 2: It's done online. It changes pathways. It changes the brain
- 27:19Speaker 2: completely from negative to positive. Jump on there. Hit all
- 27:23Speaker 2: our socials. And there's a great book out there called Daddy, Daddy,
- 27:28Speaker 2: Please Stop Drinking, which the last thing I said to
- 27:30Speaker 2: my daughter, go and have a look at it on
- 27:33Speaker 2: Amazon and then don't buy it. We've got 10 copies
- 27:38Speaker 2: right here to give away. So contact myself or Francine.
- 27:41Speaker 2: I'll sign it personally to you. I'll pay for all
- 27:42Speaker 2: the posts and everything. Everything's free. And when you get it,
- 27:45Speaker 2: have a great read and then pass on to somebody
- 27:47Speaker 2: else free of charge who you think deserves to read it.
- 27:50Speaker 1: That is an amazing offer. Thank you so much. I
- 27:55Speaker 1: am so glad I met you because this conversation was
- 28:00Speaker 1: absolutely amazing.
- 28:04Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you.
- 28:06Speaker 1: And with that, that's our episode of Parents Talk. And
- 28:10Speaker 1: I will see you next time.