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Hello, and welcome to the UK column today. I am joined by Matthew
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Errett. Some time ago we spoke about the issue of UFOs and the UFOs
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being a psychological operation, and in fact we spoke about it because you had
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started investigating this, and by coincidence, I can't even remember what it was
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was in the media at the time that I mentioned to you, but you
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have produced two documentaries so far on this issue, and I've just watched episode
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two, which you sent it to me and said, this will blow your
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mind, and indeed it did. So let's start off if we could with
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a little bit of introduction about your background and why you decided to cover this
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particular topic. Oh, Mike, Yeah, thank you for having me on,
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and yeah, I'm very passionate about this, so I'm very happy to
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be with you to chat a little bit more about the process and why we're
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doing this. It's not a solo act. My wife has really pulled this
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together and we recently about a year and a half ago, almost by happen
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chance, during the or two years ago, during the Trucker convoy, we
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had the good fortune of making the acquaintance of a podcaster named Jason Dahl,
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who happened to be an incredibly talented filmmaker as well, and due to COVID
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it wiped out his business. He was working in a kitchen, but he
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was still maintaining a little podcast called super Spreaders, and he asked me to
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be on as a guest, and I just gotta I gotta show you this
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quick story how we discovered that he has this talent because he sends me,
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about a week before I'm about to be honest, as his guest, a
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promo video that he made about ten minutes long, and he said, here,
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you can use this to promote our upcoming chat. It's one of the
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highest quality promo videos, like nearly documentary level promo videos that he made off
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the cuff. And then he made another one, and then he made another
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one for a small podcast that would have maybe you know, a few hundred
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people watching it. And I was like, wait a minute, there's too
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much talent here. We have to do something with this. So we began
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to see what was possible by giving him little scripts, little articles that we
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had written that we were curious to see if this could be rendered into multimedia,
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and sure enough, everything we sent over the ensuing months turned out beautiful.
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So we've just been pushing the limits to see where how far this multimedia
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capability can go, and so far we haven't found a limit. And now
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my wife and I we've written or my wife is bearheaded Cynthia Chung. She's
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a fantastic writer, and she's written a series of films on why there are
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no limits to Growth. We've done two episodes of that series. There's gonna
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be about nine or ten total. Then we've done a parallel series of videos
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for my Canadian Patriot Review and that's going to be about eight videos on the
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Hidden Hand behind UFO. So we've now done two of those episodes. You've
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seen the second one that we just released this week. I myself have always
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been well not always been, but early on in my in my being broken
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out of normal land i'll speak subjectively here back into I think it was around
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two thousand and four. It didn't take me long after going through nine to
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eleven is as an inside job and starting to have a lot of my my
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major narratives break down that I encountered. And everybody does this, you know,
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everybody encounters this. It's there to be found. The role of secret
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society's esoterica that has been sort of weaved through our entire history. It's not
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you you can't avoid it if you're looking at history from a conspiratorial angle,
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which is the only healthy way to do it. But then there's a lot
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of misinformfield. And for a bit of that time, for about a year,
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I became obsessed with aliens, and I was starting to think for between
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two thousand and five two thousand and six that maybe this oligarchy that's been managing
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humanity conspiratorially, maybe they do have special powers, Maybe there are special secrets
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known only to the inner elites, and maybe it has something to do with
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interfacing governments interfacing with aliens, which if it does occur at all, and
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I was beginning to believe that it did, then that would mean that it's
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likely that it's always been the case. Maybe there's always been aliens going back
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to ancient civilization, making the pyramids and communicating with the elites. So it's
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all a big you know, what's the point fighting an oligarchy that has superhuman
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powers given to them in technologies by an alien breed, you know that's out
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to enslave us or something, and you know, I encountered some David Ike
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readings along the way that put some fuel into that fire. And and then
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I decided I was going a bit crazy. The level of things that I
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was believing in that I couldn't prove to be true and that were full of
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misinformation was too much. So I had to put some brakes on that.
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And for about eleven or twelve years, I was a volunteer. I'd stumbled
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around that time on the Schiller Institute and I began to volunteer with them in
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a Montreal office that existed. So that gave me a chance to become more
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self aware and know and more disciplined in researching history and science from what I
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found to be a much more reliable method of research, which allowed me to
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then appreciate things I couldn't appreciate before I began that exploration regarding the role of
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British intelligence in the Roundtable movement, the Fabian Society in taking over control of
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the United States as well as many European countries. So all of these things
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gave me a better backbone, I guess, more muscles to then revisit now
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in the last couple of years since you know, UFO disclosure is going mainstream.
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We're seeing it in CNN, and they're having congressional inquiries in Mexico and
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Washington. The UK Department of Defense is releasing not too secretively. It's intended
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to be very public this sort of messaging that aliens are with us, they've
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been interfacing with us. And so because it became obvious that this is a
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big part of a major sy op which I think has a certain ritualistic initiation
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process behind it to bring people into a belief in a new pagan pantheon of
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deities, of course they're going to have a more et UFO vibe in this
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current situation managed by a technocratical priesthood. I figured I have to revisit some
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of the things I was thinking about twenty years ago and do it with a
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little bit more scrutiny than I was back in two thousand and four. So
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my wife and I have been just doing that and reconstructing as much as we
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could what is really behind the whole UFO phenomenon and mythos, and what is
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the role of people like HG. Wells or the Fabians or Sir Edward Bulwer
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Lytton comes in playing a big role in other occultists for some reason, And
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idink this was why we started talking about this, because I had been making
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the point to you just how the British press was so infused in recent weeks
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and months with UFO stories and really pushing this narrative that they're out there,
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and again today the daily mill is full of it every day almost there's another
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story along these lines. Now, of course we're all familiar with terms like
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Project Bluebeam, but what a lot of people don't appreciate is that a lot
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of this narrative did come from Britain and we need to go back to the
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beginning of the twentieth century to really get the beginnings of the modern narrative on
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this. Yeah, and that's sort of what Episode two actually episode the end
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of episode one we began to leave people with that sense that we need to
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go back to specifically the Theosophists, the Fabians, and the British Society for
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Psychical Research as some extremely important conduits. As far as there were certain battles
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that were taking place within the British High Command at the end of the nineteenth
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century over what to do in the face of a world of growing sovereign nation
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states that are beginning to break free of the shackles of the British East India
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Company, the City of London. They were beginning to utilize national banking protectionism.
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We saw Lincoln do this and a lot of his followers, many of
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whom died Garfield McKinley to varying degrees. We're tapping into this. Russian leaders
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admiring Lincoln. We're bringing the success of the industrial projects of America into Russia.
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We saw the same thing with Bismarck. We saw it also in Asia.
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They had one hundred Days reform movement in China that was that was unfortunately
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taken down working with Sergei Vita to build rail between China and Russia. So
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there was this idea of a world of cooperating nation states that was being fought
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fought towards. We were moving closer to that era where we overcome the system
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of empire and exploitation through finance or the cover of finance, but to promote
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feudalism. So that idea of feudalism under a financial sort of veneer was being
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finally overthrown. There was a crisis within the the higher echelon of structures within
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it. Within the Empire, we saw much of this circle, you know,
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the the the the decision to create a new breed of think tanks.
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Some of them came online as the Fabian Society under the leadership of a bunch
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of misanthropic eugenicists that would utilize a certain socialistic or a certain socialism to attract
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the poor the working class, but really not because they cared about the poor
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working class, but rather just that they wanted to exploit and use them as
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weapons to to overthrow governments you don't like, and then to accept or demand
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their own enslavement under some form of a world government. The Roundtable movement was
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another one. The Theosophists were brought on around the same similar time under Madame
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Blovotski and her you know, all costs of a bunch of these mediums and
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spiritualists trying to create a new type of global religion based on the most superstitious
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mystical elements of every world, every every religion of the world. Mediums were
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circulating quite a bit, being promoted channelers of unseen worlds was being were being
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promoted by things like the British Bureau for Psychical Research. Henry James in America
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was setting up a branch. We had a lot of these things, and
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many of them overlapped with the Roscicrucians which were all over the British Royal society
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as well, the invisible colleges they called it. So all that to say,
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there was an idea I think of reorganizing the British Empire. Fooksing on
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the battle of the mind more than the battle of the bodies of the world,
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and part of that involved the role of HG. Wells, who comes
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up very prominently in this second episode, was a student of Thomas H.
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Huxley, part of HG. Wells a variety of mandates, but one of
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those things is as as a very creative, misanthropic person. It was discovered
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that he has a penchant for science fiction. A lot of those those works
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that he was writing, like The War of the Worlds, The Invisible Man,
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a lot of them were influenced by the writings of Sir Edward Bulwer Lytton,
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a major figure within the occult underground of the of the aristocracy of Britain,
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wrote things like describing things like Vril that the Nazis were later on to
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be inspired by for their Virial society. This this you know, etheric medium
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that only the elite Ariyans can tap into mentally that allows them clairvoyance and telepathic
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powers. And the Nazis, the SS, the Thula Society, the Black
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Sun Order were obsessed with this virill uh stuff that allowed them to control their
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robots, their automata uh. In the case of Bulwer Lytton's story and but
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a big chunk of this under Wells and his retooling of it became uniting the
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world around threats of from other planets, especially Mars. He was doing part
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of his medate was under under Huxley to write for Nature magazine, which was
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an X club magazine, to promote Darwinism in opposition to other, what I
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would say, more competent theories of evolution that were not simply Darwinian in their
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in their baseline, there were other other, much healthier approaches to explaining the
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the the changing fossil records and evolution as a as as something tied to intelligent
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design, harmony, purpose directionality that was all banned by Darwin. So part
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of the the promotion of the British Empire was to justify scientifically, saying,
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look, the law of the strongest over the over the weakest is part of
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nature. So you can't refute that a rule by empire is needed by by
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nature, says. So that was part of the reason why they needed Darwin
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to be so popular, and so Huxley and then later on HG. Wells
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a student, we're promoting working on the mind of people and and and shaping
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through predictive programming, sending messages that would that would leak in underneath the sentinels
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of logic, utilizing the cover of fiction works. A lot of the stories
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that projected aliens as as their known today and as they were designed by Hulls
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as effectively a future human. If you extend lock the evolutionary forces into the
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future, according to people like Hulls, you would get these creatures that have
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these big brains and little little mouths, big eyes, big hands, frail
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bodies because they don't have to do work anymore, and that would become something
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that would use to organize us around the world government. You've named a few
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names there, Glovatsky, IT'SG. Wells, Huxley, and Huxley we're talking
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about Allus Huxley, but also Julian Huxley, and all those names are associated
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with the United Nations to some degree. So we've got this cabal that's pushing
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world government which are directly in many ways involved in helping build the League Nations
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and then the United Nations. But as well as that, the other thing
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you've mentioned there is Darwinism, and what we're looking at there, it seems
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to me, is a form of sort of scientific dictatorship, which we then
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see in the modern day as the way that the climate science is handled or
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the way that that public health science is handled. And and then another name
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that springs to mind, and I don't know if there's any connection here is
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Bertrand Russell, of course, because he was proposing, you know, the
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the idea of the scientific dictatorship as he described it. As you know from
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the from the documentary, we link up directly the creation of cybernetics as a
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science of control that grew especially under the Manhattan Projects, and the the unspoken
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major players behind the creation also of the Manhattan Project itself and the outgrowth of
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cybernetics which became the sort of post World War two system of managerial controls under
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sort of scientific principles under the Rant Corporation. We saw this also brought into
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NATO, into the OECD, into pretty much every governing institution of the Transatlantic
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after World War Two. Was the growth of one of the students of Bertrand
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Russell named Norbert Wiener, was an information theorist and information scientist working on radar.
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Norbert Greena studied as a young prodigy in Cambridge under Bertran Russell in nineteen
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thirteen. It was very it was made very clear that this science of cybernetics
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sponsored by the Rockefeller Foundation the Josiah Macy Foundation, which were also sponsoring eugenics,
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keep in mind, which is not different in a very serious way.
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They were very clear that this was the practical application of what Bertrand Russell had
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laid out in his three volume Principia Mathematica or Principia Scientifica no Mathematica I Mixed
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them Up, which he co published with Alfred North Whitehead between nineteen ten and
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nineteen thirteen, outlining a rebrand a method of looking at the universe that presumed
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that the entire universe was a closed system that could be that everything ponderable within
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the universe was the thesis of Wells and Whitehead could be reduced to a limited
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array of axioms and postulates, and that these limited axioms and postulates, once
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you had them memorized, you could explain away everything that is, ever was,
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and ever will be, and you would essentially be like Laplace's demon.
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You'd have the power of God if you just have the data to plug into
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the what effectively was a computer model. You could then extrapolate the earliest time
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of the Big Bang that they postulated existed without even a lot of evidence that
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that was the case, and the heat death, the ultimate heat death of
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the universe, which they believed to be the natural consequence governing teleologically all life
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and what appears to be order and change in their cosmology of this oligarchist network,
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that that Wells and bertrand Russell were devoted to. Wells himself, like
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like Whitehead, were both Cambridge Apostles, which is a very high level.
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I mean, this is extremely I mean to be a Cambridge apostle, you
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are in the inner sanctum. They all postulated, effectively a universe governed by
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the principle of death and decay. It's a closed universe. There's only a
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limited amount of energy to go around to keep the parts moving. And because
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of that, every time you have more growth anywhere in the universe, that's
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more energy to go around and thus more heat, death, more aka entropy.
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So that was a big part of the foundation of cybernetics. That that
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also became the bedrock of transhumanism. So Julian Huxley, who coined the term
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transhumanism, was utilizing a cybernetics information theory, ideology or language. But back
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to your original question, and this is also a cover for eugenics, twenty
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first century eugenics. It's not too many steps between the modification of darwin to
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social Darwinism. And it's a so called opposing school of the eugenics, which
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are two fake oppositions. They both lead you to the same place into effectively
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transhumanism, not that later aft through the gateway of cybernetics as the control mechanism.
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Now, this is what also HG. Wells is calling for in his
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World Brain, a nineteen forty doctor book he wrote that was sort of an
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organizing manual, as well as an earlier book, The Open Conspiracy, a
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blueprint, a blueprint for world revolution. He outlines this quite clearly, the
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need for the science of controls under a managerial elite. Both Wells and Russell
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at different times are Fabians, But the Fabians is just a conduit. It's
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a think tank, you know. Not everybody who's a Fabian is necessarily in
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on the joke either there. But you know, Russell is a part of
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this same network that Lord Milner is participating in through the Cofficient Coefficients Club,
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which was a dining club of a bunch of these managers of the Roundtable movement.
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The Fabians Trusts Webb had overseen its creation, and Wells was a frequent
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participant. Lord Balfour, who was also a leading member of the Bureau for
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Psychical Research, was a frequent guest. Mackinder participated. So these different think
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tanks appeared to be different things. One catered a little bit more to a
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conservative sort of the Roundtable movement and its associated Rhodes Scholarship program Out of the
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Roads Trust appealed to a little bit more of a conservative imperial personality type,
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whereas the Fabians appealed a little bit more to a left leading personality type.
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But they were always interfacing with each other and their leading figures managing Both were
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always closely communicating with each other, and yeah, there's so much that could
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be said about this, but now Bert and Russell plays a very important role
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and always interfacing with H. G. Wells, whether it's in the Bolshevik
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after the Bolshevik Revolution, it was both Wells as well as Russell who traveled
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together to meet with the leading Bolsheviks, especially Trotsky, who they really wanted
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to be their guy who would be successful as the sort of top dog of
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Russia in the nineteen twenties. That didn't work out the way they wanted.
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But still, you know, they're they're traveling together, They're they're definitely and
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I think there's sort of a Poncho Sanza and Don Quixote type of relationship that
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they maintain in a weird way. I don't think us still necessarily respected Wells
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at that much. Wells is from a poor family, Russells from a higher
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higher level of the patrician class, you know, multi generational. But Wells
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is very brilliant. He's sardonic, He's got a deep hate of humanity matched
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with a very deep cleverness and creative sort of power, so he's useful.
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And yeah, like you said, he plays a role in actual structures like
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the League of Nations. He runs the League of Nation Society. In nineteen
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nineteen January, Lord Balfour again who's always working with him, is spearheading a
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big chunk of this operation in Paris. Their followers, the Wellsians in America.
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You've got a Fabian grouping set up in America under students of William James,
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like John Dewey who creates the New States, the New Republic. Walter
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Littmann also is a Fabian, a Wellsian setting up shop in the heart of
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America to build up this Fabian apparatus inside of the United States. These are
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the groups that end up creating the Council on Foreign Relations. They oversee the
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attempt to create a League of Nations, which fails because there's still too many
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nationalists in America who rejected and Wells. Yeah, his work goes into the
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Universal Declaration on Human Rights that's adopted as sort of an appendix to the UN
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Charter in nineteen forty seven, but he already drafted that in nineteen forty As
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you pointed out, the falls of Blavatsky, like Alice Bailey, any Bassant
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play a role in these institutions as well. Bailey herself creates the Lucifer Publishing
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that becomes the Lucius Publishing that still to this day bank rolls a lot of
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the publications for the UN. They have a whole meditation room that's very theosophical
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in its essence, which is again a fake perennial religion, taking the most
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superficial aspects of mysticism of every religion and creating a Schmorgesborg which is built into
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the New York UN headquarters. I think there's certain legitimate parts of the UN
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that had a different origin story, but that got very contaminated after Roosevelt died
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by these forces. Unfortunately, we're talking about this group of people that they
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and others have been building this world government infrastructure which has eventually arrived to see
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United Nations. But what has that got to do with the UFOs. Yeah,
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that's a good question. Well, part of the thesis of you you
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could unite the world around hope or fear, and the oligarchy found that it's
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much more useful to do some combination of unite people around fear or false hope,
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so hope that actually has carries no no reasonable justification for it. Hence
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Obama type hope right open in a world that will never happen because it's you're
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because the people who are who are being induced to hope this way are are
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fools. So the idea that that Wells outlines in a lot of his stories,
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the World Set Free, involve the threat of human self extinction because we
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are just so you know, there's these these these images of human nature just
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being so selfish, corrupt, foolish as our as our natural state of being
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built baked into all of his stories. World Set Free features the first nuclear
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bomb, which wipes out humanity. The The War of the World has a
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slightly different twist, but again, we we're essentially useless in the face of
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the higher technology and the higher intelligence of these warlord aliens from Mars who want
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to wipe us out. We end up defeating them purely by accident through a
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germ that kills them, not human ingenuity. In a lot of Wells's stories,
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the only resolution to the man made problems which is never empire, it's
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never oligarchism. It's always some combination of extraterrestrial threats or humans being corrupt,
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selfish, stupid things that can only use technology badly, so we destroy ourselves.
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And the solution is a world government. And it's just sort of it's
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everywhere. It's in so many of his of his works. And that's on
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the one hand, the predictive programming that then wires a lot of the science
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fiction novels, the movies, and then especially the nineteen forties, fifties,
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sixties all the way to the present day. So much of this is wired
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by the template for how to do storytelling based on what Wells innovates. He's
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not alone, but he a big one. So a big chunk of this
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after the Manhattan Project, which is I think part of the Manhattan Projects that
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it never ended, it was retooled, a part of it was incorporated into
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Project paper Clip and certain other things that involved taking Nazis or finding all of
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the innovative scientific and technological works that the Nazis were pioneering, especially in the
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domain of drones, automated drones that were using certain Tesla technologies, flying flying
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machines as well. There was a flying saucer aviation projects that was very covert
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by that the Nazis were running. Victor Schauberger was on that team, as
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were the Horton brothers. There's a variety of models, but they were never
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put to work, and it seems to be in my research that a lot
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of them were absorbed by US Air Force, US Military industrial complex, the
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British military industrial complex. And people began seeing certain things flying, starting especially
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in the nineteen late forty six forty seven especially, people were noticing Air Force
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pilots were looking out their window and seeing what appears to be unidentified objects flying
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around, little drones, little circular things flying around. Civilians were seeing these
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things at night, looking out their windows. So what were they seeing.
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On the one hand, there had to be some narrative created to shape to
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tell the people what they were looking at, because to say we're using rebranded,
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repurpose Nazi technology that we're testing out is not acceptable, especially under the
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age of the Cold War. On the other hand, too, it involved,
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as is so many things with oligarchical operations. There wasn't simply a one
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to one mechanical cause effect relationship behind, Like why are we going to tell
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them that there are these these stories of aliens interfacing with humanity. Part of
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it was, I think also to bring about a an initiation process where people
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would become inclined towards believing that these aliens have been around for a long time,
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and so part of the idea was always as we see it now.
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Increasingly it helps to know about things like Project Blue Beam and other things like
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that, but just general illusionist tricks that are that are being used by those
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who control the media, those who control our perceptions of what is reality through
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mainstream media and through other things. They can create the idea that these aliens
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are from other dimensions and they have a technology that allows them to interface into
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our dimension, or they're just they have new technologies that allows them to go
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from other planets to ours. Either way, there's many of these narratives that
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we're seeing portray them as a threatening thing, the graze. They want to
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destroy us, just like the aliens in Wells's novel. We have David Grush,
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who's alluding to the sort of thing too, who is an intelligence spook
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who has been trodded out to be a movement, who's alluding to the various
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species of aliens in congressional testimonies. Right, that's making it seem very real
29:14
for civilians who don't know how to think about intelligence. They're like, wow,
29:17
there's multiple species of aliens, and the Russians and the Chinese are working
29:22
with the more evil aliens, where we are at least having our interfacing with
29:27
the better aliens. Which accounts for why twenty trillion dollars of the Pentagon budget
29:33
can't be accounted for. Oh, it's that's why. It's nothing more than
29:37
we have a secret science breakaway civilization program says Catherine austen Fits and many others
29:44
that involves interfacing with UFOs, and so we have this unaccounted for money,
29:48
which everyone can understand, I mean why they had to do this, because
29:52
it's for the greater good to have this, you know, black budget for
29:56
communicating with aliens. And some of them are really bad, some of them
30:00
are less bad. The ones working with the US military are the less bad
30:03
ones. We have this with. It's just everywhere, right, and so
30:07
the idea that sort of floating about is increasingly that we will be made safe
30:12
from these creatures, these forces if we band together under some form of independence
30:18
day world government scenario are referring to the nineteen ninety seven movie, where we
30:26
just either and we get a world control, a world government to protect ourselves,
30:30
we stop fighting each other and we just deal with this alien threat.
30:33
Maybe they'll give us a peace treaty and leave us alone or something. But
30:37
they're out there, and so maybe that's what's always been out there. Maybe
30:41
that's what Jesus was, Maybe that's what Muhammad was. Maybe that's how I
30:44
have to rethink about all of my conventional religions and traditions, is from the
30:48
standpoint that what we thought we were prophets and saints and people who did so
30:53
much good were actually aliens this whole time, you know. And there's all
30:59
sorts of variations of the theme that we see promoted by the Joe Rogan channel,
31:03
and Robert Malone is promoting this too, and there's a variety of different
31:10
flavors to ultimately what is the same thing. The idea of Project Bluebem,
31:15
if I remember correctly, is, you know, advanced technology is going to
31:18
be used to present some kind of massive event which appears to be alien in
31:26
nature, and this is going to drive us all together. Humanity is facing
31:30
an existential threat from outside the earth, and therefore we've all got to come
31:33
together behind some kind of new world part organization. But there's a religious aspect
31:41
of this as well, and you've alluded to that with the suggestion that some
31:45
of our previous religious leaders were you know, the suggestion that they were aliens.
31:51
In fact, how does this fit with the whole sort of climate crisis
31:59
motivation into that seems to be taking us into, uh, you know,
32:04
a world religion based on Gaia cult. And how do these two narratives fit
32:09
together. Are they the two sides of the same coin that are just trying
32:13
to capture people from different points of view? Or how does this work?
32:16
No, that's a great question. I wish I wish we had more time.
32:19
I mean, but yeah, in the most discinct way I can answer
32:22
that, Yeah, I agree with you. I think that this is two
32:23
sides of the same singular operation. And when you look at how to say
32:29
this in a quick way, Uh so a big part of the ancient mystery
32:32
cults that manage the geopolitical world of ancient Rome, ancient Greece, ancient Babylon
32:39
before that, ancient Persia, and it's wholly uh it was a world managed
32:45
by mystery cults. That's the key thing. So the center of command and
32:49
control of intelligence, banking, geopolitical machinations were the the the people would have
32:55
to go. Generals, kings would go to pay a lot of money to
32:59
get at intel from the oracles, the the sybols of Rome or you know,
33:06
the the oracle of Delphi, which are usually you know, doped up
33:10
young women typically not always who were were kept stoned on opiates and other forms
33:16
of hallucinogenic uh you know, uh, funguses, plant blights, wheat blights,
33:22
things like that that are the derivative of of LSD today. It comes
33:27
from like a general rot of bacteria or a fungus that grows on wheat.
33:34
All I have to say that was used as part of the the the sacred
33:37
elixirs of the ancient world. And so these these these girls would you know,
33:42
sputter out random mutterings. Sometimes there there were techniques of of going through
33:47
a ceremony, of cutting out blood guts from from a bird or from a
33:51
maybe a human victim to i'm i'm i'm I think is probably the case more
33:55
often than not for the for the big the big forecasts and what what people
34:00
what? The generals, the kings were being told was what messages the gods
34:05
had for them answering their questions. These were essentially channelers, right like nineteenth
34:08
century channelers were a variation of what was going on already back then, and
34:13
then they would be told, okay, based on the money you gave to
34:16
go to war with this, this neighboring thing, to make a peace alliance,
34:22
you know. So whole geopolitical strategies were built around people going to these
34:25
these doped up girls being and their words were interpreted by a priesthood of of
34:31
of initiated high priests who would interpret the mutterings of these poor girls or whatever
34:37
the blood gouts we're doing. And so that's the way the world ran,
34:43
and the population had a there was sort of a set of rituals. Everyone
34:46
was expected to be at least inducted, even the slaves of this ancient world
34:52
of Egypt, of Isis, the Isis of Cyrus cults, the cult of
34:58
Demeter, which had certain Bacchanalian Dimnysian orgies, which are just sort of two
35:04
sides of the same thing. The masses were expected to be initiated on a
35:08
low level. There's a diffuse form of first degree initiation for sort of everybody
35:14
based on the on on on the maximization of sensual pleasures as an organizing principle
35:22
of your identity. So during the night, you know, you would have
35:24
promote orgies, popular orgies, you would promote do what Thou wilt sort of
35:29
stuff, you know that the hell Fire Club and then Alli later on revived.
35:32
And then in the daytime you'd have the Apollonian sort of principle of behavior
35:37
of do your duty, do your duty slave, you know, pick pick
35:40
the cotton, and then at night get drunk, get wasted, just have
35:45
your your animal lusts satisfied. And this type of like vacillation between extremes was
35:51
what was expected for everybody. Now amongst the within the mystery cults, there
35:58
is there are always degrees of initiation for those who would have slightly more influence
36:01
or responsibilities to manage the system of empire. That would go through usually about
36:07
seven or eight gates, you know. The ancient cult of Gaya, the
36:14
matter cults was a big part of this to sort of worship the purity of
36:20
nature over humans. So it had a misanthropic bent. So part of the
36:23
idea was human beings are just so corrupt. So our nature is so sinful,
36:29
vice ridden that we're not really good, we're evil, and so there's
36:32
this idea that we are actually humanity is evil and that nature because it is
36:37
more pure, more non changing, more you know, you don't put a
36:43
dog in jail for killing a cat. It's it's something to worship. And
36:46
so you had things like the cult of Sybelle, which was one of these
36:53
these cults. It was a you know, they did a lot of castration
36:57
of their priests who would be brought into the upper slightly higher initiation, not
37:01
not at the highest, and it interfaced always with things like the cult of
37:07
Mithra more men only warrior cults, and these two cults of Mithra and Sibel
37:12
were often closely aligned no matter where they went, whether they were in their
37:15
Phrygian form or whether they're in the Roman form. But there were two aspects
37:21
of the human condition that would be used together to manage society. Christianity made
37:29
these things more difficult because the Judeo Christian movements denied paganism, they denied the
37:37
pantheon, They basically denied the mysteries, and they said, look, the
37:39
mysteries are for everybody, they're not really mysteries. They're not supposed to be
37:43
secret. We're all made in the image of a living, loving God.
37:46
Now there's obviously different rituals that people would dispute about, but that principle of
37:51
one God, one creator was very disruptive to the system of controls of the
37:57
mystery cults, and and so they had to, you know, in some
38:01
cases they rebradded themselves, uh, you know, in the form of the
38:06
Gnostic Christian sects, the Manicheans, the Marsians. There's there's a variety of
38:12
these, these Gnostic Christian gospels that were promoted that basically were repackaged forms of
38:19
rituals that we had only seen in the Isis cult earlier. That that removed
38:25
the the the special place of human beings as something divine within nature. So
38:30
the oligarchy always wants to reduce us to another thing within nature, that there's
38:34
nothing qualitatively different from a rat, a cockroach, and a human baby.
38:37
It's all the same thing. It's all just flesh with passions. So that's
38:42
part of what they what a lot of the Gnostic gospels were promoting. When
38:45
that didn't work, largely because of the combats of people like Saint Augustine and
38:49
the other Platonists. In the fifth century, a lot of them basically went
38:54
deeper underground, but continued in the form of things like Benedictines, Benedictine Order,
39:00
which got out, you know, control of the the various uh many
39:06
of the mithraum were are still today found in Britain, all across Europe.
39:09
There's hundreds of these mithraum right, these underground temples were were the mythraic rituals
39:15
would be held, and a lot of them are found under churches today.
39:19
A lot of them are Benedictine churches. The Isle of Capri is A is
39:23
a massive control center of this zone, with a lot of these underground caverns
39:28
catacombs where these rituals were held by Tiberius earlier, and this was given over
39:32
to the Benedictines when that order was created in the sixth century. We saw
39:38
a splinter group of the Benedictines create the templars under you know, the Sisters
39:45
Sistercian Order. So Bernard de Clairvaux was the sort of the Bertran Russell Grant
39:52
strategist of his own day, or the HG Wells of the eleventh century.
39:57
Established the charter for the Templars that would be effectively a a rebranded mythric order
40:00
masquerading as Christian to oversee the Crusades. That was part of part of that
40:07
spiel. But then there was transmogrifications of this thing into the Franciscans the Dominicans
40:15
that played a sort of conjoined role. You know, both were created by
40:19
two guys who were collaborated with each other in the twelve fifteen period. One
40:25
ran the more like masculine inquisition, crushed the infidel aspect of the church,
40:32
that's the Dominicans. The other ones, the Franciscans under the Order of Saint
40:37
Francis, were more you know, give your gospel to squirrels and trees that
40:43
are as equal of receiving the gospels and teachings of God as humans are,
40:47
because we're all equal. So it's sort of like a renewal of the Gaya
40:52
principle in a Christian sort of veneer. There were a lot of good for
40:54
Chiscins and a lot of good Dominicans. Don't get me wrong, I'm not
40:57
saying everyone's in the inner sanctum, but I'm just saying these are some of
41:00
the Garbs that were created around which the Jesuits were later on formed as an
41:05
outgrowth of the Franciscans, and the same year that Anglican Church was created in
41:12
fifteen thirty four. So I I in my research it looks like there's a
41:15
direct connection between that's not a coincidence, and venice plays a role in both
41:21
creations. So you have this this attempt what ends up We see this express
41:28
itself, this gnostic occultism in the form of the new Rosicrucians and Cabalists under
41:34
Francesco Zorzi who's advising the papacy as well as Henry the Eighth in the fifteenth
41:39
twenties, the leading cabbalist of the day in terms of how do you you
41:44
know, what do you create a new religion? Do you get a divorce?
41:46
What do you do? So these are leading Kabbalists and these are these
41:49
are this is what creates the rose aicrusion order inside of Britain itself. It's
41:55
all that to say, there's this whole thing that goes that ties directly into
41:59
what Huxley was doing, what HG. Wells was doing and acting upon as
42:06
part of the occult underground that that shapes Anglo American grand strategy. This with
42:10
the British Bureau for Psychical Research was expressing in its own time after the eighteen
42:16
eighties, and it still is today and is what became at the heart of
42:19
things like Tavistock, MK Ultra, the parapsychology operations out of Fort Bragg are
42:27
all directly tied to this occult underground in many of Alistair Crowley's own followers.
42:32
His disciples like l Ron Hubbard, who was a disciple of Crowley, play
42:37
a role in the story too, as as the founder of Scientology, which
42:42
is a major plays a major role in both predictive programming and UFO cults,
42:49
as well as mk Ultra and things like the Stanford Research Institute and the remote
42:52
viewing operations of Stargate. It's run by a bunch of high level scientologists were
42:57
effectively you know, crowd and jacqu Vallets. I would say this back to
43:01
the original point. Jacques Valet is a major player within this UFO disclosure movement.
43:07
He's a co founder of the modern Internet as they call it, as
43:10
he was working for Darbennett. He was also a student of Jalen Heineck,
43:16
who was a I think he was Cia, but he was always a controller
43:20
a manager of this sihop after nineteen forty seven with Blue Book that he advised
43:24
on. He was himself a fan of Manly p. Hall and Theosophist literature.
43:30
According to his student Ballet, he ran something called the Invisible College,
43:37
which was sort of a rebranded Invisible College of the Rosa Krushnan Order back in
43:40
the eighteenth century, so he sort of rebranded that. That was his inspiration
43:45
and he created a whole network of figures would be devoted to undermining, undoing
43:53
Christianity, replacing it with a new set of sacred beliefs. Vallet's was the
44:00
person. He was the person who first innovated the idea of interdimensional aliens in
44:07
his Road to Magonia. Road to Magonia in nineteen sixty nine, which was
44:15
the first deposit that all of the folklore, the fairies, the pixies of
44:20
Ireland, the imps, the elves, these different folklore of the different parts
44:23
of the world, including the older sacred stories of Christ and other religions,
44:31
were actually describing aliens that would abduct us, the elves, that would abduct
44:36
the children from the village in the thirteenth century were actually aliens that only certain
44:40
people could interface with because they would do certain drugs. And this is according
44:45
to you people like I mean Vallet has been promoting this, help Putov has
44:52
been promoting this that certain narcotics, LSD other things that were experimented upon by
44:58
Tavistock and mka Ultra give us access to the other dimensions. They say that
45:05
that alien beings could speak to us or give us technology which the ancient mystery
45:09
cults of Rome and Egypt were accessing through their their sacred elixirs of of opiates
45:16
and stuff. So yeah, this this was I think put more into motion
45:23
in the sixties after jiff K was murdered, was they doubled down on this.
45:29
And there was a whole network in of this occult underground in Russia too
45:32
that was built up even before the Bolshevik Revolution. It was it was what
45:36
was overseeing the murder of Zar Alexander the Second that remained behind as stay behinds
45:42
after the Bolsheviks reorganized things. A big chunk of this, this Russian occultism,
45:49
tied to some of these older families remained behind and interfaced with these Western
45:52
groups, growing things like cybernetics into Russia as a as a governing mechanism him
46:00
after Stalin died. This is what was brought in by Krushchev into Russia as
46:04
the governing mechanism of control for the Russian Soviet state. It was also being
46:08
done at the same time by Rand in America over JFK's dead body game theory
46:15
was a sub section of this right as far as a way of thinking about
46:17
the world as one system of controls managed by a priesthood. So climate change,
46:23
oh yeah, so climate change, Yeah, it comes into this.
46:27
It's it's it's such a big topic though, it's almost like a whole separate
46:30
thing. But but yeah, it definitely plays a big role in this.
46:32
Yeah. Okay, look, we're more or less out of time. So
46:35
I want to do two things. First thing I want to do is I
46:37
want to put a name to you. Who's a British name and and it's
46:42
all over the British media when it comes to this topic, and that's Nick
46:45
Pope. Pope. Yes, yeah, so I was going to ask you.
46:49
I was going to ask you about him. First of all, what
46:52
do you know about him? I don't know. I haven't done a proper
46:54
deep dive. I mean, I've just done a summary like bio sketch,
46:58
which is just alarm bells. As for you, I'm sure you know like
47:00
this is obviously somebody tied to British Intelligence I did. What do you know
47:07
about it? Actually, maybe you could educate me a little bit on Pope.
47:12
No other than what you've just said. I don't really know very much.
47:14
I mean, nobody really knows as far as I can say. And
47:16
anybody who in this day and age, with the media being what it is
47:20
as a giant empire of lies, anybody who's that much of a media darling,
47:24
who's being fed to us on that regular of a basis so intentionally,
47:30
there's something shady going on. One has to presume that he's part of what
47:35
he was openly a part of as far as British intelligence he's I don't see
47:39
any reason why he stopped doing that, and I would look very based on
47:45
what we were just saying in the course of the last fifty minutes, fifty
47:47
five minutes, people should think, I think a bit more critically about the
47:52
type of messaging that he's putting out there and who it benefits. And you
47:54
know, is there a more human explanation for a lot of the phenomenon that
47:59
people like him, like Elizondo or Alputof. You know, there's a variety
48:04
of these figures, David Grush, these are selected public spokesman. Tom DeLange
48:08
is another one who's who are public figures selected to promote a common narrative for
48:16
disclosure? Is there a more human explanation that doesn't involve going to the supernatural
48:21
to explain a lot of the empirical data that they're talking about. I would
48:24
say yes if you approach things our history from this more critical standpoint, And
48:30
the other thing would be yeah, Like look at the role of people like
48:32
Lawrence Rockefeller, Like Lawrence Rockefeller founded just the Disclosure Project. Does Lawrence Rockefeller
48:38
who oversaw the HG. Wells War of the World si OP broadcast in nineteen
48:44
thirty eight to see how people would respond information of an alien attack being portrayed
48:47
as news. Does he have a vested interest in the truth what he and
48:53
his class represents or has he been consistently working to enslave humanity and would prefer
49:00
that we think about aliens rather than thinking like John F. Kennedy or Martin
49:04
Luther King junior or something more potent. But he founded the Disclosure project.
49:08
He was the guy who hired Stephen Greer, you know, one of the
49:12
biggest, loudest spokesman for this disclosure thing. Greer was an employee. He
49:16
was on the David Rockefeller, Lawrence Rockefeller ranch. He was employed by him.
49:21
That was what was brought into the Clinton White House. Is what Podesta
49:23
and Hillary Clinton were recruited to by Lawrence Rockefeller. This is what's bankrolling.
49:30
Is what was behind the creation of the DeLonge operation with Helputov, is what's
49:35
behind Harry Reid, all of the Pentagon disclosure operations in Congress. It's all
49:38
being it's an illusionist trick. It's the same things that they were doing back
49:43
in the nineteen hundreds to get us to believe that these mediums were channeling paranormal
49:47
activity and exoplasm and stuff from the other domain so people could speak with the
49:52
dead or whatever. It's not that different. It's actually the same thing with
49:57
better CGI today and Bluebeam has advanced quite a bit since Edward Lansdale's efforts to
50:04
overthrow Castro with his Elimination through Illumination operation. Right back in the early sixties,
50:10
that's that's Blue Beams. That's the early proto blue Beam. It's gotten
50:14
further in a danced and tech you produced to documentary so far, I think
50:20
they're about an rh how many intending to have in the series and how do
50:23
people watch them? At first there was going to be four, then eight,
50:30
Now I'm thinking if we can do about eight to ten, I think
50:32
that that's probably what would do justice to the story. But it's very comprehensive.
50:38
And how do people watch them? Oh? Yeah, so yeah,
50:42
go to Canadianpatriot dot org or Risingtaiefoundation dot net for both of those documentary series.
50:50
The other thing is my substack Matthew Eric dot substack dot com is a
50:54
great way to get access to a lot of these things early on, as
50:59
they'll be released every two months or so. Yeah, that's that's good.
51:05
Yes, matt I'm going to say thank you very much for joining me.
51:07
It's been a fascinating discussion. The documentaries that I've seen are brilliant and I
51:14
absolutely hardly recommend them everybody, So good luck with it and we'll keep everybody
51:17
posted whenever you release a new one. Thank you for joining me.