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10-22-26 Hour 1 - Nuggets are back TONIGHT/Bo still working through ankle injury/NBA odds & ends · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher Lombardi and Kane on demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 1: every weekday morning from 7 to 10 on Altitude Sports
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you all this on Thursday. Tomorrow's Wednesday. There's
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  Speaker 2: nothing to even really say. Broncos don't play till Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: So that I'll give you all my analysis. about the
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  Speaker 2: Cardinals and about everything else, but that's all I got, man.
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  Speaker 2: I'm tired. I'm going to throw some laundry in the
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  Speaker 2: washing machine. I'm going to go to bed and I'll
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  Speaker 2: see you on Thursday and we'll get her done. All right,
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  Speaker 2: dude's late.
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  Speaker 3: I got to say, I've been, Vic, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: about you. I've been waiting with bated breath for Mosher's
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  Speaker 3: analysis on the Cardinals today.
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  Speaker 4: I've been waiting for his laundry. His laundry production.
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  Speaker 3: You've got to be careful, Mosher. If you leave your
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  Speaker 3: laundry sitting in that wet washer without throwing it in
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  Speaker 3: the dryer sometime soon after that, it can start to stink.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll stink.
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  Speaker 2: Broncos don't play until Sunday, so f * * * that.
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  Speaker 4: I'll give my analysis on the Cardinals later.
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  Speaker 5: In the week.
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  Speaker 3: Mosher, can you break down the Cardinals for us now?
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  Speaker 4: What great analysis do you have on the Cardinals?
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  Speaker 2: They suck.
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  Speaker 3: And you saved that for me because the Nuggets opened
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  Speaker 3: their season tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, that's what I want to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: I'm more interested in the start of the Denver Nuggets season.
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  Speaker 2: Thank God we finally got here. I'm going to throw
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  Speaker 2: some laundry in the washing machine. I'm going to go
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  Speaker 2: to bed.
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  Speaker 3: You're welcome.
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  Speaker 2: I've got a real problem with what I saw at
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  Speaker 2: LaMelo Ball last night.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not talking about LaMelo Ball traveling to start
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  Speaker 3: the show, so you just hang on to that.
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  Speaker 2: That's for a little bit later. Jane, let me say
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  Speaker 2: this then, and I'll shut up for the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the segment. James Harden ruined the frigging NBA. James Harden himself.
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  Speaker 3: That's not how we're starting today. I'm going to, nope,
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  Speaker 3: penalty flag. Not how we're starting the show. This is
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  Speaker 3: how I'd like to start. I don't know. I've asked
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  Speaker 3: the people in the appetizer. I ran my own little
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  Speaker 3: straw poll and I asked them, where do you think
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  Speaker 3: this season ends as of right now for the Nuggets?
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  Speaker 3: Where do you think the last game is played? Is
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  Speaker 3: it in the finals? Is it in the second round?
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  Speaker 3: Is it in the play-in? Where do you think it's at?
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  Speaker 3: And most people gave the answer of second round. I
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  Speaker 3: would say that was the median answer. And that's kind
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  Speaker 3: of where I am. It's the first time in a
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  Speaker 3: while that I haven't had sort of the, this team
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  Speaker 3: is finals ready. Now that can change, and it changes
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  Speaker 3: for me with one thing. I looked around the league
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  Speaker 3: at the end of the playoffs last year. even in
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  Speaker 3: the first couple of games this year. Teams that are
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  Speaker 3: really good can run 10 or 11 deep without batting
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  Speaker 3: an eyelash. Like, they have 10 guys that they trust
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  Speaker 3: coming off their bench. Do the Nuggets have that? And
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  Speaker 3: can they get that? Can Trevin Brazil be a guy?
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  Speaker 3: Not every team has that. I'm saying most.
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  Speaker 4: Not most, no.
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  Speaker 3: The teams that won last year, yes. Three of the
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  Speaker 3: last four teams, the Knicks, the Thunder, and the Spurs
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  Speaker 3: all did that.
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  Speaker 4: They all did. I'm not sure the Knicks did. The
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  Speaker 4: Knicks rode their starters hard. They only used like three
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  Speaker 4: or four bench guys. You can go back and look.
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  Speaker 4: They were running 9-10 deep a game in the finals.
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  Speaker 4: It's okay to say you're wrong.
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  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, you're wrong. It's okay. I'm telling you,
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  Speaker 3: you're wrong.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, not everyone's Oklahoma City's the deepest team in
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  Speaker 4: the league. That's a given. And The Spurs run a
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  Speaker 4: deep bench. It's a given. But there aren't many teams.
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  Speaker 4: I was watching Minnesota last night. They don't have a
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  Speaker 4: very deep bench. They ran their starters a long time.
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  Speaker 4: I was watching the Lakers last night. They don't have
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  Speaker 4: a deep bench.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they also don't have rosters of guys that get
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  Speaker 3: hurt a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm looking for Brazils or Diallo's or Whitmore's or
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  Speaker 3: Bagley's or somebody like that. Can you be people that
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  Speaker 3: are just trusted? That's what I'm looking for. Like, we
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  Speaker 3: can all say, we can do the easy thing today
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  Speaker 3: and say, like, oh, you know what? If the Nuggets
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  Speaker 3: stay healthy, okay, we've played that game for about three
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  Speaker 3: straight years. It's been very difficult for them to do that.
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  Speaker 3: And so that can't be something I trust anymore. I
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  Speaker 3: need to look somewhere else. And I've said this all offseason.
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  Speaker 3: I think your top seven is as good as anybody
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  Speaker 3: in the NBA. I will ride and die with your
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  Speaker 3: starting five, including DeMar DeRozan and Spencer Jones. Anything beyond that,
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  Speaker 3: I have no idea. And that's where my fear comes from.
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  Speaker 2: What are you doing?
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  Speaker 3: Nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Just sitting here with my teeth in my mouth. James
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  Speaker 2: Harden ruined the NBA.
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  Speaker 3: Why are you being difficult this morning? Like, why are
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  Speaker 3: you being difficult already?
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  Speaker 4: You had the day off.
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  Speaker 3: You should be well rested.
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  Speaker 4: You had a day off to think about yourself. So
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  Speaker 4: what's your problem?
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  Speaker 2: Let me say this. I think Brett is correct. Can
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  Speaker 2: we just have somebody pop? Is there somebody coming off
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  Speaker 2: the bench that I don't know about yet that can pop?
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  Speaker 2: I'm not talking about Bagley or DeRozan or guys who
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  Speaker 2: have been around. I'm talking about somebody to pop, Brazil pop,
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  Speaker 2: Diallo pop, damn hard pop, some sort of pop where
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  Speaker 2: I would go, wow, I didn't know we had that.
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  Speaker 4: That's good.
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  Speaker 2: I like that.
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  Speaker 3: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 4: I'd love to see somebody pop Caruso in the face tonight.
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  Speaker 4: How long before A, Shea Gilgis Alexander angers you, B,
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  Speaker 4: Chet angers you, or C, Caruso angers you tonight?
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  Speaker 3: Chet's on site, so that's tough. I mean, just seeing
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  Speaker 3: his face.
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  Speaker 4: Upon seeing him.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, just his face. That's immediately.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what his hair looks like, Vic, but
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  Speaker 2: start with the hair. that big bushy thing of hair,
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  Speaker 2: and then the scrawny beard.
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  Speaker 4: For me, it's in.
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  Speaker 2: And then scrawny chin. And yeah, I'm with Brett. I
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  Speaker 2: look at his face, and I get pissed off. And
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  Speaker 2: then I'm sure he's going to do something in the
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  Speaker 2: first 30 seconds that I don't like.
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  Speaker 4: What about Dagnall?
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  Speaker 3: It's on sight. You've got to give me somebody like
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  Speaker 3: Jalen Williams' smile is going to bother me. Now, Shea.
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  Speaker 2: Those guys are insufferable, man. Insufferable.
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  Speaker 3: I just... They're also very good. They're very good.
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  Speaker 4: And they're deep. I mean, they got McClain coming off
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  Speaker 4: the bench, busting six threes the other night. Six for
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  Speaker 4: eight from three like it was nothing. Um.
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  Speaker 3: What were you at, Vic, if I asked you that question?
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  Speaker 4: Wait, it's McCain or McClain? McCain. Sorry.
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  Speaker 3: It's not John McClain from Die Hard.
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  Speaker 5: Um.
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  Speaker 3: If I asked you that question... As you sit right now,
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  Speaker 3: where do you think this season ends? When's the last
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  Speaker 3: game played? Without seeing some of the new acquisitions and
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  Speaker 3: what they could mean to the roster, what would you
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  Speaker 3: guess is kind of where they're headed?
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  Speaker 4: They're headed to the playoff mix, and whether or not
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  Speaker 4: they're healthy in the playoffs will determine how far they
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  Speaker 4: go in the playoffs. And the playoff mix is top five,
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  Speaker 4: top four.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That's how I see the Nuggets. You know, the thing
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  Speaker 4: about them is you watch some of these other teams, man,
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  Speaker 4: There is some youth out there, youth that is being
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  Speaker 4: served on some of these other squads. I'm watching a
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  Speaker 4: lot of young players emerge. And you're right, the depth,
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  Speaker 4: the youth. The Nuggets, you heard the stat yesterday. How
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  Speaker 4: many players are still on their opening day rosters from
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  Speaker 4: the 2021 season? And the Nuggets have four of those
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  Speaker 4: players on the opening day roster. Out of 28 in
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  Speaker 4: the league. 28 in the league, they have four. So
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  Speaker 4: that's a team that's been together a while. The core
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  Speaker 4: has been together a while. They're older. They're going to
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  Speaker 4: need an infusion of youth from somewhere. I agree with you, Moj. Somebody, somebody.
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  Speaker 4: Somebody's got to pop. Has to pop or it's going
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  Speaker 4: to be a long year.
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  Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, Vic. On that subject, again, if
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  Speaker 3: you guys missed it, since the 2021 season, there are
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  Speaker 3: only 28 NBA players that are on the same roster.
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  Speaker 3: as they were back in 2021. It's so crazy. Opening
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  Speaker 3: night roster. The Nuggets have four. Jokic, Murray, Gordon, and
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  Speaker 3: Zeke Nagy, of all people. Here is, and this is
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  Speaker 3: why I think that stat's important, Vic. This year, overall,
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  Speaker 3: feels very much like a blueprint year.
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  Speaker 4: What do you mean by that?
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  Speaker 3: If you have another first round exit, hell, if you
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  Speaker 3: have a second round exit that doesn't look believable, you
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  Speaker 3: might blow this thing up with one certainty. Jokic, this offseason,
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  Speaker 3: will be offered the contract extension. He will sign it.
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  Speaker 3: He's said as much already. There's no question about that anymore.
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  Speaker 3: You don't have a Giannis Milwaukee Bucks thing happening, but
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  Speaker 3: you might have a Milwaukee Bucks thing happening of everybody
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  Speaker 3: that surrounded Joker forever is now gone. That's what this
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  Speaker 3: season could mean if you don't reach a certain point.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know what that point is, but that's
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  Speaker 3: what I'm talking about when I say it might be
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  Speaker 3: a blueprint year.
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  Speaker 4: But if you had trouble moving contracts, big contracts, Now,
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  Speaker 4: what makes you think if you have a so-so season,
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  Speaker 4: they're going to be easier to move a year from now?
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  Speaker 3: It's not that it would be easier to move necessarily.
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  Speaker 3: It would be that you had at least, hey, if
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  Speaker 3: the team stays healthy from last year, maybe we had
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  Speaker 3: a better shot. I don't know if you can convince
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  Speaker 3: yourself that again. That's the thing. Again, Vic, you can't
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  Speaker 3: tell me that Jamal Murray is immovable. people will take
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  Speaker 3: an all-NBA player on their roster.
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  Speaker 2: But I think this is, you call it a blueprint.
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  Speaker 4: It's so funny when you say that. I just... taking
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  Speaker 4: a contract of that size, that magnitude, changes two franchises immensely.
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  Speaker 4: What makes you think there are teams out there that
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  Speaker 4: are willing to take that kind of money on without
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  Speaker 4: something to juice up that deal?
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  Speaker 3: Because he's an all-NBA player. Kawhi Leonard had a giant
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  Speaker 3: contract too. He got moved.
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  Speaker 4: There were trades.
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  Speaker 3: There were picks involved. Yeah, that went back to the
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  Speaker 3: team that Kawhi got traded from.
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  Speaker 4: There's always picks involved.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but they didn't attach a pick with Kawhi. They
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  Speaker 3: got picks.
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  Speaker 4: So let me ask you this. Let me ask you
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  Speaker 4: this question. Toronto, let's say the Nuggets had offered Jamal
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  Speaker 4: to Toronto.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Who would they have chosen? Kawhi or Jamal in those contracts?
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  Speaker 3: I honestly don't know. You think that it's a no-brainer
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  Speaker 3: they take Kawhi over Jamal? Kawhi doesn't play. And he's
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  Speaker 3: got a giant contract for a guy who does not play.
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  Speaker 4: I think the actions speak louder than the words.
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  Speaker 3: And way older.
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  Speaker 2: Way older.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if the Nuggets offered him to Toronto. Like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if that was the case. All I'm
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  Speaker 3: saying is, there's not a world in which the Nuggets say,
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  Speaker 3: does anybody want Jamal? And everybody says no. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think that he says.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with that. To me, this season is a
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  Speaker 2: reality check season, Vic. You call it a blueprint season.
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  Speaker 2: I call it a reality check season. What do you
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  Speaker 2: really truly have?
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  Speaker 3: Where are you.
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  Speaker 2: Really in the grand scheme of things in the Western
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  Speaker 2: Conference and in the NBA? Do you have enough to
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  Speaker 2: compete or do you need to tear it down and
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  Speaker 2: redo it?
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  Speaker 3: That's it, Moj.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And that's a scary thought. This is a reality check. Well,
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  Speaker 2: it is because we've been riding this high for a
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  Speaker 2: long time. But the further you get removed from.
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  Speaker 4: I think the Avs are in this a little bit, too,
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  Speaker 4: and we'll talk to Jerry Bednar.
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  Speaker 2: What time today?
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  Speaker 3: 8 o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: 8 o'clock.
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  Speaker 4: And what time do we talk to Kaz today? 9.25.
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  Speaker 3: And we talk to Jeff Legwell at 9 o'clock.
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  Speaker 4: We have three guests on the show. Is that a record?
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  Speaker 4: Might be.
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  Speaker 2: So the point is that the further you get away
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  Speaker 2: from your championship season, the more soul-searching and true digging
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  Speaker 2: you have to do about who you are as a club.
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  Speaker 4: And... We're going to find out a lot. We're going
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  Speaker 4: to find out a lot.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, did you realize that the Thunder are
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  Speaker 2: a 10-point favorite tonight?
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  Speaker 3: I think they're the best team in the league. They
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  Speaker 3: probably should be. And they're at home.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Moj, here's the.
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  Speaker 4: That's a big number.
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  Speaker 2: But Brett, when was the last time the Nuggets were
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  Speaker 2: a 10-point dog anywhere?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a big number. That tells you another story
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  Speaker 4: right there. Even when the Nuggets played OKC... in that postseason,
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  Speaker 4: where it wins seven games, at no point were the
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  Speaker 4: Nuggets 10-point dogs, double-digit dogs, in any game.
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  Speaker 3: I think people have a lot of questions about the Nuggets,
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  Speaker 3: and I think those are totally fair. Like, one of
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  Speaker 3: the things that you pointed out between the Avs and
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  Speaker 3: Nuggets comparison, Moj, that I think makes this a little
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  Speaker 3: bit different, similar situation in that sense, what you were
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  Speaker 3: talking about, years removed from a championship, how long do
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  Speaker 3: you continue to trust the core of that, whatever. The
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  Speaker 3: difference is, the Nuggets are in a conference that features
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  Speaker 3: the two best teams in the league. And that's the
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  Speaker 3: Spurs and the thunder. And they're going to play them
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  Speaker 3: often during the regular season and have to get through
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  Speaker 3: them in the post season.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: I know that the abs have teams like Vegas and
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  Speaker 3: Dallas and, and all these different teams that are very,
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  Speaker 3: very good, but not the favorites, not the favorites. Those
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  Speaker 3: teams are, and that's what makes this a little bit different.
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  Speaker 4: Um, What the whole tone of this show to start
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  Speaker 4: has been one of cynicism from you.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't, I'm not cynical. I'm not, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think it's cynical. I mean, it's, I think that the
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  Speaker 3: Nuggets have.
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  Speaker 4: A good year. It's the first day of the season.
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  Speaker 4: It's game one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Game one is always one of hope.
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  Speaker 2: Can I say something to you?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think the way you approach.
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  Speaker 2: Jack's cynical over here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. You, you, you started this whole show by saying, well,
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  Speaker 4: this season's in the screwed up and they're going to,
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  Speaker 4: Break it down after this year. I didn't say that. Moj,
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  Speaker 4: is that the impression you got?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure a lot of people got.
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  Speaker 2: That, too. Yeah, it's just like somebody took a whiz
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  Speaker 2: in his wheeze this morning.
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  Speaker 3: I'm very excited for tonight.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, really? It sounds like it. It sounds like it.
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  Speaker 4: The topics that we just hit in the first segment,
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  Speaker 4: who are they going to trade to disband this team?
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  Speaker 3: No, I didn't say that. I said this very much
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  Speaker 3: could be a blueprint year. Let me throw something at you, then.
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  Speaker 3: With Strother out, let me throw something at you. The
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  Speaker 3: starting five, DeRozan and Bagley, I feel good about. Those seven,
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  Speaker 3: I feel great.
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  Speaker 2: If we started the postseason right now with those seven,
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  Speaker 2: And healthy, that frigging team can go all the way.
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  Speaker 3: That sounds like something I said.
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  Speaker 4: Here's something you should.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't say nothing like that.
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  Speaker 3: I said the top seven, and you said Bagley. I
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  Speaker 3: said Spencer Jones.
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  Speaker 4: Here's something you should consider.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, top eight then. Top eight because Bagley will get some.
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  Speaker 2: He'll spell Joker at times.
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  Speaker 4: Spencer is questionable for tonight. I doubt he even plays.
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  Speaker 4: He's got an issue. But I'll say this. The Denver
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  Speaker 4: Nuggets can very easily lose to Oklahoma City tonight and
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  Speaker 4: still have a promising season. Oh, sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Can you imagine the scene in OKC? They just came
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  Speaker 4: off a win against San Antonio in the opener. They're
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  Speaker 4: back home against another team they hate. We hate each other.
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  Speaker 4: It's mutually. And they get to open at home against
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  Speaker 4: that team. It's going to be insane tonight in the
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  Speaker 4: OKC corral.
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  Speaker 3: So that game is tonight, 730, as the Nuggets open
• 15:41
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  Speaker 2: it'd be something totally different.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, we had beads earlier.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: Cool, Carl.
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• 17:23
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• 17:28
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• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Unsolicited.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: You'd like that, wouldn't you?
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: So, we'll talk to Jared Bednar at 8 o'clock. We
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: have more nuggets to get to in a moment. You
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: guys remember.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: We've asked the question, and I felt like, you know,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: it's probably something that needs to be discussed, but you
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: don't want to use it as an excuse. But Bo
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Nix having 37 rushing yards through six games is weird.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: We can all admit that, right?
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird. It's off the norm.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: It's not what anybody anticipated. I know we're going to
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: delve into a lot of what he had to say yesterday.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: I thought it was fascinating. Again, another window into his psyche.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: Last week was the first picture. This one is the second.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: and listening to him speak now, and he's talking a lot.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: It's not quick responses. It's in-depth stuff.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Just to give you guys a comparison point, I just
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: found what I feel like are some of the most
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: immobile quarterbacks in football. Aaron Rodgers, who's 50 years old,
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: has 18 rushing yards this year. Stafford, who's 38, has 21.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Jared Goff, who's just slow, has 16. Like these guys
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: are right behind Bo Nix in rushing yards through six
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: games this year. So the question is, is there a
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: mental aspect of recovery that you're over?
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: And he said, you know, I'd be lying if I said, no,
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: I don't think, I think that's just what happens. I
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: think you come back and you're like, every day is
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: a progression. It's like you're doing treatment for the whole
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: entire year. And I'm not necessarily doing physical therapy treatment,
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: but I'm out there on the practice field, getting rep
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: after rep, trying to get back in, Super great shape,
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: you know, so my carries can go up. So I'm
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: ready when my number's called and when I can run.
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: But I'm not scared. I'm not physically, like, worried. I
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: just think there's something to the sport. I think all guys,
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: when they come back from an injury, it's like just
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: doing it one day at a time.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: That's just part of the game.
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: That's part of the process. And, you know, I had
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: surgery probably, I think, six months ago. You know, it
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: takes a while for things to fully reengage and re-come back. And,
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: you know, I'm confident myself. I know I'm going to
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: get back. and be exactly what I was, if not better,
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: because as I get older, that's how it's been.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: That seems incredibly reasonable to me.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he acknowledged it.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: It's the truth listen again I told you my first
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: real insight to this was nearly 30 years ago when
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I talked to Lafonso Ellis about his name but but
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: really he went in depth about it I mean he
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: he actually you know started talking to me about his
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: mental process and coming back and trusting his body. That
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: he's not scared. It's just these hurdles you have to
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: get over before finally you don't think about it anymore
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: and you just be yourself.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Listen, man, all you can be is honest with yourself
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: and with anybody else. And I think he was just
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: much more out front there and honest this week in
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: his assessment. And last week. It's not about a narrative.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: There's no narrative. It's your play. It's your product. It's
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: what you produce. That's not a narrative. That's what we see.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: So what's wrong? I love the way he took accountability.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Why is that a difficult concept to take accountability? The
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: quarterback always should take the most accountability. Head coach or quarterback.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: What is your job as a head coach or quarterback?
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: First and foremost, as the leaders of the team, you
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: take accountability. How many times has Nikola Jokic taken accountability.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: When he shouldn't? For example, when he's actually the only
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: guy doing something, but he's like, I got to be
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: better and so on and so forth.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: For example, when this show sucks, it's not my fault.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: It's on me.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: It's all you. It's on me. Oh, no, no, no.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: That's called accountability.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Let me take some accountability.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: That's called accountability.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I make this show suck. Frequently.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: You do.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: That's accountability.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: But it's on me for allowing you to do that. Oh,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: that's what it is. I've allowed you.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Well, stop me from doing this. James Harden ruined the NBA.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: Stop.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: James Harden ruined the NBA.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: There's nothing you can do about it. Somebody says here,
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: what accountability did he take? Well, he took part in
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: the blame, at least. He said, I've got to be better.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: He's got to be better. He knows that. And it
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: comes with time. He also knows that he's overcoming an injury.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: And that's a mental hurdle that perhaps he did not
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: anticipate taking this long.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's any question. He's had ankle problems before.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: But there's something about the right ankle of a right-handed quarterback.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: That foot makes every decision on the field. That's the
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: foot you push off of. to throw the football. That's
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: the foot that you push off of to step up
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: in the pocket. That's the one that you take off
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: and run with. That's like, that decides everything. And Jacob
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Mizorowski for the Brewers throws the ball 105 miles an
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: hour because he gets pushed off of his right foot.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: That's where it comes from. And when that doesn't feel
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: right or you don't trust it, I'm sure it affects
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: a lot of things. Now, he was asked what, what
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: couple of things that he can correct in his game.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: He said this.
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: Now, like, I think it's the balance of being aggressive,
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: not stupid. For me, I'm not going to ever get
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: out there and try to be reckless with the football.
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: I think it's just being aggressive and taking the.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: Shots that they're like.
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: The other day we had a couple that we put
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: the ball up in the air, and we got good
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: positive plays out of it. We got a penalty that
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: put us at the one and some other really close ones.
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: But I think it's just as the season goes, it's
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: all about being aggressive, and it's putting our team in
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: an aggressive mentality, aggressive state, And I think when the
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: guys see me be aggressive, I think everybody else will
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: be aggressive too. And, you know, that's how we want
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: to play offensively.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: We could quibble with that. What is aggressive? What is
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: the definition? I mean, if you have a guy open
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: at the sticks and you choose to go underneath, I mean,
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: what is that? You know, if you choose not to
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: go to the guy open, that's not being aggressive. He
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: might see that as reckless. What is your definition of
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: reckless versus aggressive?
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Okay, here's a very good question that Kreckman asked yesterday.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: And this is going to sound stupid, but I think
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: it's a really interesting one. What's the point of the
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Broncos offense? Is the point of the Broncos offense to
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: score touchdowns? Or is the point of the Broncos offense
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: to not mess things up for the defense?
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Right now, the point is don't screw it up so
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: that your defense can win you a game. That's the
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: God's honest truth. I totally agree. And do just enough,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: just enough to get by.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: I'll give you an example. If the point was to
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: score touchdowns and not mess things up for the defense,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: if they're fourth and one from the one-yard line, every
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: team in the league is going for a touchdown there,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: except the Broncos didn't.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: Why?
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Because points mattered. Because they have a good defense. And
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: they'd like to take the guarantee.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: If this team had to score, like, listen, we really
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: have to score this game to win. We're going to
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: have to score a lot. They couldn't do it. Not
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: right now they couldn't. Could not do it. You said, hey, listen,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: we see these 37-33 games, these crazy, the frigging Lions
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: every week, they're in one of these. We got to
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: put up 40.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, shoot up.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: We got to put up 40 or we're dead type
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: of scenarios. If they had to do that, Vic, eh-eh.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: Total dolphin, eh-eh, eh-eh.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Ain't going down.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: But I've thought about this, man. Do you know who
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: would love Bo Nix as a quarterback? Vic Fangio when
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: he was the coach here. Why? Well, Vic Fangio had
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Drew Locke as his quarterback, and then what did he do?
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: He got Teddy Bridgewater. And why would you get Teddy?
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Teddy doesn't have more potential than Drew Locke. He doesn't
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: have a better arm. He can't throw the ball better downfield.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: He's just the safety valve.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: He doesn't turn the ball over.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: He's just the safety valve.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: And Vic Fangio is like, my defense is so badass
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: that if I get a guy that's not going to
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: put us in a bad position, we'll win a bunch
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: of games. I think that's what they're doing right now
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: with Bo Nix. And I think that'll change if it
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: shows that he builds some confidence as the year goes on. Like,
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Sean Payton doesn't want to play this way. Sean Payton
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: is an offensive-minded head coach.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: This is not... When you watch the team... It's killing them.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: You can tell it's killing them. I'm sure it's killing them.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: When you watch them, this is not a Sean Payton
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: offense right now. Or it's not operating like a Sean
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Payton offense. It probably drives him batting.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: Which is why I say... It probably does. Why doesn't
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: anybody ever agree with me when I say this? Why
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: don't I get people agreeing with me? Why don't I
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: have people behind me?
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Well, say it, and I'll tell you how wrong you are.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: Why don't they come out slinging the ball like crazy lunatics?
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Just to start the game.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: See? Nobody wants that.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't mind it, Vic. I was with you
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: last week.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: Why don't you, you know, okay, so, well, we don't
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: want to take those chances. If you already put that
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: in somebody's brain, well, we're going to establish the run.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: We're not going to take any chances. Then it's over.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: It's done. I want to see on the first three
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: plays in Arizona, three go shots. Just throw the ball.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: And if it gets intercepted, it gets intercepted. You have
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: the rest of the game to deal with it.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: But you know what? I'm not even saying I disagree
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: with you. But I will say this.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: You're not agreeing enough.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: I actually have a lot of respect for what Sean
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Payton's done this year. To take the points on fourth
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: and one from the one-yard line, which we all agreed
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: was the right decision at the time because he needed points.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: That's killing him to make that call. He called a
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: timeout about it. He called his timeout, and I swear
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: to God, before he called that timeout, which game was that?
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Why am I blanking on which game that was? But
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: you guys know what I'm talking about, right? Was that
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: the Chargers game? It was a timeout on fourth and
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: one from the one, and I bet here's the conversation.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Am I really going to kick this bleeping field? Am
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: I really going to do this? It's the smart thing
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: to do. I know it's what it should do. I
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: don't want to do this. But that was the discussion.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Because he's like, this is what we have right now.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: And this is what I got to work with. And Vic,
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you can force confidence into a
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: player that's not confident right now. Because that's kind of
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: what you're asking to do.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: He should get confident this weekend. He should get confident.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Somebody said this is why Vic is not and never
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: will be a head coach. Exactly. I'm not a head coach.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: But I am a doctor of sport. And I'm telling you,
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: if you want to fix this issue, the diagnosis is obvious.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: They're frozen. They're paralyzed. If you want to fix it,
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: come out slinging. Who do you think I am?
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I am.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Well, because that would lead to three and outs. I'm
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: not saying to do it every play. I'm not saying
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: you do it the entire game.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Not a dreaded three and outs.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, listen to what you just texted me
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: in the show, 5886. It would lead to three and outs.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: Did you watch the last couple games? What do you
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: think they do now?
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Please, don't do the three and out thing. I'm so
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: not used to that.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: You know, why not?
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, you're going to doom our offense.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: I'll give you an example.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: If you're afraid of public speaking, they say you have
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: to go do it. Comedians talk about it all the time.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: The only way to get through it is to do it,
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: to get through the adversity. If you're afraid of anything,
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: you've got to do more of it. You have to
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: face it head on. All right? If that fear exists,
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: the only way to get through that fear is to
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: do it. Okay, but... So why not just come out
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: doing it?
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: If we're talking about a case of the yips, again,
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's something you can just force onto somebody.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: When Chuck Knobloch couldn't throw the ball to first base,
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: it's not like he didn't try over and over again.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: He did it.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Over and over. It's a mental block, and I don't
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: know how that gets facilitated.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: That's the problem. Let's say that you take on Arizona,
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: and they stay in their too deep safety look. All right,
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: so they're going to say, we're not going to let
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: you throw it deep. All right, run a bunch of corners.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Run some back shoulders. Throw the ball beyond seven yards
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: is all I'm saying.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, that has to happen. Is that asking a lot?
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: No, that has to happen.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: I want the first three plays to be pass plays
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: beyond seven yards. This is not asking for the world here.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: I ain't asking for the world here.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Jonathan Cooper's back, by the way. All these players that
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: were on the exempt list are now off. So Josh Jacobs,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Jonathan Cooper. Cooper comes back at a pretty good time,
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: to be honest, because it was... A week after Jonah
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Ellis gets carted off the field and is in crutches
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: in a boot right now. And you know what's funny?
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: I don't really care. I was thinking the exact same thing.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: I don't really care about the defense right now.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I don't either. It's going to matter.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, not really. It won't really matter.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think right now, gentlemen. And I use
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: that term loosely. What would have to happen... For me
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: to be concerned about this defense. They're missing Cooper for
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: six weeks. So what? Oh, you're missing Sertan for two games.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: So what?
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, Riley Moss is out. So what? Oh, Hufang is.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: So what?
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: There's one concern.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: What's that?
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: You can run the ball against this defense. You can.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: That's concerning. No, you absolutely can. And if another team
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: got a lead and committed to running the ball, they'd
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: be in trouble.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Well, teams have had leads.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I understand. Because then they stopped running the ball
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: for some reason.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: See, you throw in that qualifier at the end for
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: some reason. Why is that? I don't know. Why do
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: teams repeatedly throw the same out pattern to get picked off?
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Why would Matthew Stafford, the reigning MVP...
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Look to his left and throw it right into a gut.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Because these things seem to happen for the opposition when
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: they're playing the Broncos. Things that shouldn't happen. That don't
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: typically happen.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: They're happening.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Why would Harbaugh, with the lead and the Broncos' offense,
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: unable to escape its own shadow, why would he go
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: for it on fourth down on his own side of
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: the field? Today?
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Today?
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I do not apologize.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: Seriously.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: If you go through, I do not know just quickly.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: If you go through each win for the Broncos this year,
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence had a terrible interception that led to them
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: going down 20 to 13. Stafford had a terrible pick
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: six that led to them losing their lead. The chargers
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: had a terrible decision to go forward on fourth down,
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: which led to them on their own side of the
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: field when they had a seven point lead and Sam
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Donald through two picks, which allowed the Broncos, um, an
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: opportunity to close out the game, which they didn't, and
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: then to close out the game in overtime.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Sam, listen. We got away with it. Woo! Got that
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: game-tying feel. Woo, mama mia. Anyway, here's what you don't do.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: You literally do anything. Deflate the football and eat it
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: at the 40.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: Thumbs up. Let's do this.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Leroy!
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: I say you start with Leroy Jenkins.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go full Leroy from the get-go, man.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: Leroy Jenkins on two to start the game.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: I'm dead serious. The first series. What's the worst that
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: can happen?
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: What?
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: What?
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Three and out?
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: You throw a pick.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. So what? Yeah, I agreed. So what? Screw it.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: Let's go.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: I'm with you.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: 303-504-0925.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Jared Bednar in 20 minutes.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: Stick around.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: All right, Jared Bednar is going to join us in
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: 15 minutes. So stay tuned for that. All right, Moj,
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: you got something you want to get off your chest now?
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: James Harden has ruined the NBA. I'm telling you, Vic,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: why do they make it so difficult for me to
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: fan out? Why? Just call what's supposed to be called.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Watching LaMelo Ball take seven, literally, Brett, seven steps last night. Yeah. Seven.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: It was unreal. Did you see the official?
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: It's right there.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: It's right in front of him.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Then he chucks up a three, nails it. Okay, good.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: But why not just call it?
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: It's embarrassing. You know, he's not the only one to Nelly.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: Let me count them.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Ready?
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Here we go. Let me.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: You didn't pick up the ball yet.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: You messed up.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: You messed up.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: You didn't pick it up. You don't even know the
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: rules of basketball.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Go back to it. Nelly was watching his feet. What
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: does he pick up the ball?
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: He hasn't picked up the ball yet. All right, go ahead.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: It's dribbling.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: It's this one.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: It's still way too many. He moved five yards without dribbling.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: He moved five yards to his right. You think that's
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: the only one? You think that he's the only guy? No,
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: I saw Luka's half-quarter. You see Luka?
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: So Luka makes this ridiculous half-quarter. That's another story because
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: he got into it with the rookie last night. He
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: makes this. I mean, it's awesome. Backboard, off the backboard, bank, half-quarter.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: Should not have counted. Should not have counted. I tweeted
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: it out if you want to put that up on
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: the big screen at All Nelly because he got away
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: with a massive walk as well. And the NBA is
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: doing everything it can who eliminate a lot of this
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: shenanigan stuff, right? They don't want the flops. They don't want...
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: How about just calling travel? Just basic travel. Now, watch this.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: Look at his feet before he shoots the shot. Watch
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: it again. Watch his feet. I mean, come on, dude.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Way less egregious than... No, but tell me, how many
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: steps did he take?
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: 17?
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: He had the Fred Flintstone twinkle toes thing happening.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: Come on, man. Come on. What are we doing?
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Why does the league do this to me, though, Brett?
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Why do they consistently do this to me? I don't
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: want them to do it to me. I'm not even
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: sure they want to do it to me, but they
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: do do it to me. The problem is that it bleeds.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: This bleeds down into other leagues, other age groups. It
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: gets to the college game. Then the high school guys
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: start doing it.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: And then you go to Gold Crown and you'll see
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: a kid all of a sudden take three crab steps
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: to his right to attempt a three. And I'm telling you,
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: I'm watching this and I'm like, the kid's only doing
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: what he sees on television. He's doing what he sees.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: It's pretty remarkable how I think basketball in the youth arena,
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: more than any other sport, is heavily influenced by what
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: they see on TV. I told you guys, I watched
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: a 12-year-old AAU game. Kids are 12. They get a bucket,
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: they're yelling and one. They're pounding their chest. They're looking
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: towards the crowd and flexing after a bucket. I'm like,
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: you're 12.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: What are you doing?
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: Well, this just happens in football, too. I've been to
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: a couple of youth football games, and a lot of
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: the same mannerisms take place there. I mean, you know,
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: the whole role model thing.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Did you guys hear, by the way, Nelly, can you
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: cue up Victor Wimonyama for me? I'm just going to
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: say it right now. I think his game's incredible. I
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: am not a fan of Victor Wibinyama.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: He missed his first 12 shots the other night?
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Wibinyama speaks like somebody who wants to be, how do
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: I put this? Like he wants to be like a Kobe.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: He wants to be generational.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: He wants to be the guy that like, you go
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: back to his press clippings like 25 years ago and
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: are like, Remember when he said this and how profound
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: that was? Like Kobe's like, job's not finished, right? That
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: whole thing. He wants to be that. I want you
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: to hear Victor Weminyama yesterday. Go ahead.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: I need to go back to playing the basketball I like.
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: This is not the sport I like right here. So
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: I got no reason to be hesitant, no reason to
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: not be myself. For me, it's as simple as that.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: I'm good when I have fun.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: What the hell is he talking about?
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: He said, I feel like it's obvious for me. I
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: need to go back to playing the basketball that I like. Bro,
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: it's one game into the season.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: What is he talking about? What is he referring to?
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: That he had a 1 of 13 performance and they said, well,
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: what happened?
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: What does that have to do with liking basketball?
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Said, this is not the sport I like right here.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: I got no reason to be hesitant, no reason for
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: me not to be myself.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: What does that mean? Is he being told not to shoot?
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: No.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: No, no. Here's what happened.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: He had a bad game, and he's trying to do, like,
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: the philosopher quote of, like, I just got to go
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: back to having fun, man. I'm not having fun right now.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: It's a game into the season, Wimbinyama. You can't be
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: pulling that out now.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: Let me ask you something about Wimby's game, and I
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: love Wimby, and I think he will be generational when
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: it's all said and done, but right now, other teams
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: are figuring out how to get to him, and they
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: get to him by being ultra-physical, like they try with Joker.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: What is his go-to move? He doesn't have one. I'll
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: tell you what I think his problem is. You know, like,
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: Joker has Sambor Shuffle. He has the floater that can't
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: be stopped. He has several go-to moves. Wimpy doesn't have one.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: He doesn't have... A patented textbook.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: He doesn't. Don't give me a bucket. He's a seven foot.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: His movies, he's seven foot five. Yes.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: His movies to dunk.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And defend. And he can block any shot on
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: the planet.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: But he. He plays like he wants to be Durant.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: I'm like, dude, don't be Durant. You're a freak.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: I understand that Durant's like 6'11, and he shoots threes
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: and does all that stuff. Like, go be 7'5. That's different.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: That's a different makeup of a body. But are you
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: guys with me on this?
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: He is going.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: He pulled the.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: Ugh.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: I just need to get back to playing the type
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: of basketball that I love after the first game of
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: the year. Yeah, I'm just confused as to what that means.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: If Bo Nix said that, I totally get it. We're
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: six games into the season. He's been struggling. And if
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: he goes, hey, man, I just got to get back
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: to having some joy playing the game again. I'd be like,
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: you know what? I totally understand that. If he said
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: that after the third drive of the year.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: Let me ask you guys tonight, because watching Nuggets and
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: OKC is going to elicit a lot of emotion, right?
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: No matter what. Because these two teams do not like
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: each other. They do not like each other, and there's
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: a history. What is Oklahoma City going to do, try
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: to do, to Nikola Jokic tonight? They're going to try to...
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: He's going to wear Alex Caruso like he's wearing a
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: Baby Bjorn. And if it's not Caruso, it's going to
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: be Cason Wallace?
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: It's going to be somebody else, correct. It'll be Cason Wallace.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: That's correct. It's going to be A.J. Mitchell?
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: They're going to be all over him. I must wonder,
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: do they not do that in... the first game of
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: the year against them?
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: Maybe not.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Do they try and play just straight up with Chad
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: or with Hartenstein or whoever?
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Maybe.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Or maybe like a bigger type of, like a Jalen
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Williams type of body.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: And Shea is going to, he's going to drive and
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: fall and whatever else he does.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: Okay, so who guards Shea? Is it Christian?
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: I would imagine that would be at least a start.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: I would imagine that would be it.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: Let's just set up the starting fives. So you got
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: Christian on Shea. And that's a tough assignment for anyone.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: And there are going to be buckets tonight that Shea scores,
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: and you're going to go, what the hell, man? It's
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: going to happen, right? It's just the way it works.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: So then Jamal on Wallace.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: Jamal's going to cover Case and Wallace. That means Cam
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: on J-Dub. Cam on J-Dub. That leaves Aaron Gordon on Chet.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but... And.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: Joker on Hardenstein.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: Hardenstein plays like 15 minutes a night. I mean, he
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: starts the game, and then he gets pulled, and then what?
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Do they bring in... Is it Mitchell or McCain after...
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Or Caruso, I guess.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: They have an assortment of subs that they can go to.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: And that's where they're so deep. They can go to
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: the other Jalen Williams. Don't forget the 7'2 kid.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that Michigan guy.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: He's going to.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: Play a good 14 minutes tonight. So they go big
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: to bigger.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Big, bigger, biggest.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: Mara's going to get a lot of time. And when
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: the Nuggets go to their second unit, somebody's got to
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: deal with him. I think Oklahoma City. is better than
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: they were a year ago.
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: I think they're better.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: We'll see.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Despite losing Lou Dort. Yeah.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: I think Cason Wallace is better than Lou Dort.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: You do. Yeah.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: And I think AJ Mitchell's and, and McCain and, and
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: the guys that they have coming off the bench, they
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: can all shoot and Caruso. I think they're a better team.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: They could be. Thor's a good player. Thor's good. We'll see. Um,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: So Jared Bednar is going to join us in just
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: a couple of minutes. Reminder to you guys that this
• 42:49
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• 42:53
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• 42:59
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• 43:17
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