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Activists Around the World: Listener Mail · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and welcome to Stephane. Never told
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  Speaker 1: your protection of I heart radio and yes you heard
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  Speaker 1: that right. It is just me. I am going so
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  Speaker 1: low today because Samantha is feeling under the weather. She
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  Speaker 1: thinks it's a migraine, which suck. I can speak from experience,
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  Speaker 1: so just me today, but I am excited about this
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  Speaker 1: when I'm very sad that she can't be here because
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  Speaker 1: I know she would have many thoughts. But we're doing
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  Speaker 1: a listener mail today, UM and as always, so many
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  Speaker 1: of you have written in with insightful comments that we
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  Speaker 1: want to share, uh, and please keep those coming because
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  Speaker 1: we would like to do these more often because you
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  Speaker 1: all just have so much, so much to add to
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  Speaker 1: what we're talking about. So thanks to everyone who's already
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  Speaker 1: written in. Please write in if you haven't, or write
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  Speaker 1: an again if you have, because we love, love, love
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  Speaker 1: doing these, and we get a lot of email about
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  Speaker 1: our recent technology episodes that we've been doing. Our string
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  Speaker 1: of technology episodes that's going to continue actually for another
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  Speaker 1: couple of weeks. So if you have any thoughts about
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  Speaker 1: UM things like air b ab or discord are AI
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  Speaker 1: or any of that kind of stuff, those are episodes
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  Speaker 1: where we're looking at doing in the next couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 1: But in the meantime, let us hear from some listeners
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  Speaker 1: who have already written in, starting with Sarah. Sarah wrote, Hello, ladies,
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  Speaker 1: thank you as always for brightening my days. You asked
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  Speaker 1: how Reddit makes money on your recent episode. I'm a
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  Speaker 1: frequent redditor and I'm surprised y'all aren't. I like it
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  Speaker 1: because it reminds me of the days of early interwebs
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  Speaker 1: with homemade fan websites and a O l aim. Hey
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  Speaker 1: I am anyway, Reddit sells ads. They look like normal
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  Speaker 1: user post they're marked as ads, but I've been initially
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  Speaker 1: confused more than once until I saw the promoted able.
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  Speaker 1: They also make money by selling skins for your Reddit icon.
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  Speaker 1: I think they can make more money though, on redditor awards.
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  Speaker 1: These are things you can buy to give to any
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  Speaker 1: post or comment. They started with a gold and silver
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  Speaker 1: medal award, then they expanded to all sorts of things.
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  Speaker 1: Many of them have additional effects, including boosting the post
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  Speaker 1: or comment higher in the chain of comments some more
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  Speaker 1: people see it. There's a laughing skeleton, give a bear hug,
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  Speaker 1: and a this pointing hand. I love them all l
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  Speaker 1: O L some subs. Subreddits have their own custom awards too.
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  Speaker 1: Plus there are some sens of awards, like someone going
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  Speaker 1: into a door on the right and then another award
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  Speaker 1: of someone coming out of the door on the left.
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  Speaker 1: If rereditors time it right, they can give these to
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  Speaker 1: the same post and make it local. Okay, it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of pointless, but yeah. Also I want to add that
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  Speaker 1: although Simon Preddit is toxic, there are also so many
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  Speaker 1: safe spaces, and unlike Twitter, trolls can largely be kept
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  Speaker 1: out of these communities to let people have more constructive conversations.
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  Speaker 1: For example, I have a gluten allergy, and in the
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  Speaker 1: g F subs I could ask people whether I'm being
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  Speaker 1: safe or totally overthinking cross contamination. And although I've been
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  Speaker 1: in a stable relationship for ten years, the sub r
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  Speaker 1: slash x no contact is a wonderful community where people
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  Speaker 1: support each other and getting up her breakups and fighting
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  Speaker 1: the constant urge to check your ex's Instagram. That's all
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  Speaker 1: for now, but let me know if you need more.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks again to you both for interesting and informative content.
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  Speaker 1: I just wrote about y'all for my social justice class,
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  Speaker 1: and even included Annie's cosplay pick uh, and then Sarah
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  Speaker 1: followed up later. OMG, how could I forget? Annie probably
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  Speaker 1: already knows about this, but the Star Wars meme subs
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  Speaker 1: are the best. Are Slash sequel memes, are Slash prequel memes,
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  Speaker 1: and also our slash Borkini bottomed Twitter has some of
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  Speaker 1: the best and also some of the most awful memes.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that our slash super Bowl is actually our
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  Speaker 1: slash superb Owl makes me think there's hope for humanity
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  Speaker 1: and our slash proper Lifting has the cutest teeny tiny
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  Speaker 1: plants you've ever seen. I love you guys, keep being
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  Speaker 1: bad inclusive feminist b I F thank you so much. Sarah,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for all of this information, very very informative.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, all of this sounds pretty amazing to me.
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  Speaker 1: I I've I've seen a lot of good Star Wars
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  Speaker 1: memes in my day, but it makes me happy to
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  Speaker 1: know if that's a rabbit hole I want to go down,
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  Speaker 1: there is a place for me to get lost in.
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  Speaker 1: It also so cool that you talked about as in
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  Speaker 1: your social justice class and had a pick of my cosplay,
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  Speaker 1: which I can only hope just tears and cheers and
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  Speaker 1: praise as it deserves. But no, honestly, this is like
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  Speaker 1: this stuff I love about the Internet. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: we rightful, We are always pointing out issues, but also
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  Speaker 1: you know a lot of the social justice benefits of
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  Speaker 1: these platforms and technologies. But I don't want to get
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  Speaker 1: lost that they can just be fun. They can just
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  Speaker 1: be fun and interesting in a place to share memes,
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  Speaker 1: and that's fantastic. So thank you, thank you. Sarah Dina wrote,
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  Speaker 1: I just listened to your and Samantha's episode on Mandalorians
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  Speaker 1: and toxic masculinity and loved it. O f C. I'd
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  Speaker 1: not put my finger on exactly how I feel about
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  Speaker 1: the armor and the helmet, etcetera. And you summed up
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  Speaker 1: the underlying messages so well. I couldn't agree more with
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  Speaker 1: everything you said, and also had to check my own
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  Speaker 1: fascination with Mandalorians. The fact Din Mandalorian takes off his
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  Speaker 1: helmet should be celebrated. I'm just in the process of
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  Speaker 1: starting a project slash business that is centered around mental
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  Speaker 1: health education, and I think a lot about men and
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  Speaker 1: mental health. Of course, I think a lot about women
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  Speaker 1: and non binary g and see folks and the issues
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  Speaker 1: we encounter when it comes to health and mental health.
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  Speaker 1: But men's and boys emotional well being so suffers under
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  Speaker 1: the patriarchal system, and it's terrible. Dn is a great
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  Speaker 1: example for the armor men are expected to put on
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  Speaker 1: every day, hiding their humanity, masking their feelings, and showing
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  Speaker 1: no a vulnerability, trusting no one, killing slash hunting people
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  Speaker 1: for a living, and seemingly no emotional impact on him.
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  Speaker 1: Grow Gou slash baby Yoda. Uh. Then it seems to
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  Speaker 1: change that, which is nice to see. But I completely
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  Speaker 1: agree that had a woman been in this role, she'd
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  Speaker 1: have been expected to turn into Mando super mom instantly.
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  Speaker 1: It also, like you mentioned on the pod, shows perfectly
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  Speaker 1: how we celebrate men for doing the absolute bare minimum
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to parenting. Dan keeps Grogu alive, Okay, cool? Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: if gro Goo spends his whole childhood with Din, he'll
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  Speaker 1: need therapy, don't we all by the time he's a
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  Speaker 1: teenager because he gets absolutely nothing emotionally from him, let
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  Speaker 1: alone cuddles, conversation or play. Physical safety and the occasional
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  Speaker 1: macaroon and metal bal toy does not make a securely
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  Speaker 1: attached life form Anyways, another thing that's been on my
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  Speaker 1: mind is this after Keno's tragic a f moment of
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  Speaker 1: I cannot swim uh And you know if you know,
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  Speaker 1: this theme has come up again and it bucks me.
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  Speaker 1: I know Star Wars is partly about sacrifice, and I
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  Speaker 1: know it's a longstanding mythical theme, but not just since
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  Speaker 1: the war in Ukraine. I've been thinking a lot about
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  Speaker 1: war and the glorification of violence in the US and
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  Speaker 1: around the world. I really don't need to or love
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  Speaker 1: to see quote real heroes die for the cause. Sure,
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  Speaker 1: rebellions need sacrifice, but it seems to me that fandoms
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  Speaker 1: require death as the ultimate sacrifice, especially if the character
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  Speaker 1: is a woman. To me, there are two and probably
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  Speaker 1: more issues here. First of all, this theme is what
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  Speaker 1: governments require for citizens to sign up for the military
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  Speaker 1: and give their lives in combat while the people who
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  Speaker 1: send them into war zones are safe. I have never
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  Speaker 1: agreed with that. When I see a hero on screen
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  Speaker 1: sacrifice their life to save others, it doesn't fill me
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  Speaker 1: with pride that humans are so selfless. It fills me
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  Speaker 1: with sadness and anger that this person had to die.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's noble. I think it's necessary sometimes,
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  Speaker 1: but it doesn't make the death of that person any
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  Speaker 1: less sad and usually unnecessary in the first place, because
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  Speaker 1: Warren sacrifices about systems, and it's the system that's wrong
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  Speaker 1: when the dead hero story makes it about the individual,
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  Speaker 1: diverting responsibility from those in power. So this is a
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  Speaker 1: harmful theme in my opinion. You can see this especially
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  Speaker 1: well in the Star Wars fandom with the hate Rose
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  Speaker 1: got for saving Finn from sacrificing himself. We know that
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  Speaker 1: there is racism underlying this too, and the fact that
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  Speaker 1: Rose is a woman and essentially also quote deserved to die.
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  Speaker 1: Rose's sister Page had about two minutes of screen time,
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  Speaker 1: but was heralded in the fandom as the better sister
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  Speaker 1: because she gave her life. Holdo got so much respect
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  Speaker 1: after disciplining a man male character because she sacrificed your self,
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  Speaker 1: Tala had to give her life a redemption. Women really
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  Speaker 1: seem to be expected to die in order to be
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  Speaker 1: respected as quote true fighters are even worthy humans. Reva
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  Speaker 1: seems to be thought of as not worthy of redemption.
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  Speaker 1: That potentially would change if she died at some point,
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  Speaker 1: which hopefully Star Wars knows should absolutely not happen. We
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  Speaker 1: all know that this is an issue, not least because
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  Speaker 1: women and especially women of color, still do pay with
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  Speaker 1: your lives for mistakes they make speaking up against men
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  Speaker 1: or simply for being women. I'm wondering how you see this.
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  Speaker 1: It's been bugging me so much since the last Jedi,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a theme that keeps coming up. Now some
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  Speaker 1: jolly stuff. Are you calming to Star Wars celebration of London?
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  Speaker 1: About tickets? And I'm likely going, although my Star Wars
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  Speaker 1: buddies have dropped out. If you are, maybe we should
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  Speaker 1: do some nerding out, have some blue milk. I know
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  Speaker 1: it's a long way to go from the U S
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  Speaker 1: and it's expensive for you guys. I'm not sure I
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  Speaker 1: can go yet, but we'll try for sure. Oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: I would love to. First of all, data and I
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  Speaker 1: hope I'm pronouncing your name correctly. Um. I always look
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  Speaker 1: getting your messages, your Star Wars messages, because there you know,
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  Speaker 1: I just nerd out and I love them. I've never
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  Speaker 1: been to celebration. I've always wanted to go. I honestly
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  Speaker 1: I teetered after you sent this. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I could go to London, I could do the stuff
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  Speaker 1: I could still have and who knows there's time, um
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  Speaker 1: but blue milk one day for sure, and then absolutely
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  Speaker 1: to all of this. Honestly, I spend an embarrassing amount
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  Speaker 1: of time thinking about how people perceive characters like the
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  Speaker 1: Mandalorian and why they're so lauded for what sounds to
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  Speaker 1: me like self destructive behavior, and then occasionally being nice
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  Speaker 1: as I said, I love that character. I've written that character.
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  Speaker 1: I get it to some extent, but there's something about
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  Speaker 1: the way that I could go on and on about
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  Speaker 1: how men who have spoken to me about it talk
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  Speaker 1: about it about like, oh, I like that he's he
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  Speaker 1: never shows emotion, he has his armor on and doesn't
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  Speaker 1: show his face and doesn't share his voice and doesn't
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  Speaker 1: share his name, versus how women do it in fan fiction,
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  Speaker 1: which is like and this is a generalization, but I've
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  Speaker 1: read a lot of Star Wars fan fiction, so it's
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  Speaker 1: a generalization I can back up with some anecdotal evidence.
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  Speaker 1: But like that it is a good thing when he
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  Speaker 1: takes off his helmet, but also that the violence is
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  Speaker 1: a good thing too, like it shows how much you care,
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  Speaker 1: or something like the violence in the name of something
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  Speaker 1: you love or protect, which again I have also written,
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  Speaker 1: I get, but it gives me a lot of pause.
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  Speaker 1: I also, in responding to this email, I said I
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  Speaker 1: found an Instagram post recently that I had me nodding
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  Speaker 1: my head furiously where someone was saying, you know, children's
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  Speaker 1: books or entertainment is not meant about It's not for
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  Speaker 1: us to be like, oh gosh, this is child abuse
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  Speaker 1: and all of this. It's about children overcoming obstacles, which
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  Speaker 1: I totally agree, but I do think it gets complicated
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  Speaker 1: with something like Star Wars, which has like such a
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  Speaker 1: base of adults fans who grew up with it but
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  Speaker 1: are now adults. This is also kind of meant for children.
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  Speaker 1: So it's one of those things where sometimes I'm like, well, yeah, sure,
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  Speaker 1: the nine year old is flying a a ship in
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  Speaker 1: space alone. Yeah, because it's for kids. But then there's
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  Speaker 1: another part of me that's an adult that's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: a nine year old shape and space alone anyway. So
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  Speaker 1: these are just things I I wrestle with as a nerd.
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  Speaker 1: But also I completely agree about men's mental health, boys
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  Speaker 1: mental health and issues, and this kind of being an
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  Speaker 1: example of what we're teaching them and I recently had
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  Speaker 1: a very um insightful but upsetting conversation with a man
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  Speaker 1: in my life where he was talking to me about
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  Speaker 1: childhood trauma like it's the first time he's ever heard
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  Speaker 1: of it, and it kind of broke my heart. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. I think about that
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  Speaker 1: a lot, and I absolutely agree about the sacrifice, especially
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  Speaker 1: of women, especially of women of color, being glorified. I
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  Speaker 1: think you you summed it up really well that we're
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  Speaker 1: basically and this is like at the heart of Star
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  Speaker 1: Wars and so many other things. But I've always said, like,
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  Speaker 1: I loved Darth Vader's story, but in the end, he died,
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  Speaker 1: like he doesn't do the redemption work. He just dies
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  Speaker 1: and then we're like, ah, well that's good, and it's
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  Speaker 1: really not. But yeah, people getting uplifted because they died
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  Speaker 1: for the cause, and it is very complicated, But um,
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  Speaker 1: I totally agree, and I think I'm with you one
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  Speaker 1: d with Riva. I I personally believe with all of
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  Speaker 1: my heart that a lot of fans and especially like
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  Speaker 1: Dude bro fans, wanted her to die, did not want
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  Speaker 1: her to be redeemed, and feel like I feel like
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  Speaker 1: she should have died um and and I think that's
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  Speaker 1: a problem. And I also yeah with the last Jedi
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  Speaker 1: and Rose being like, you know, we have to live
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  Speaker 1: to fight that dying and glory thing um, which by
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  Speaker 1: the way, has been twisted in so many ways when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to what a cause that we would not support,
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  Speaker 1: say um and her being telling Finn like, no, we
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  Speaker 1: need to keep living and keep fighting and then kind
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  Speaker 1: of getting reamed over the goals for it is also
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  Speaker 1: pretty telling and a problem. And I think Marvel has
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  Speaker 1: been showing this a lot in a lot of their
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  Speaker 1: recent movies and treatment of women. And I will say that,
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  Speaker 1: uh and perhaps a future episode, but I just I
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  Speaker 1: feel like, you know, it's pretty It's not like a
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  Speaker 1: lot of these franchises have a lot of women, and
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  Speaker 1: there were a lot of women of color in the
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  Speaker 1: first place. And then if you're killing them all off,
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  Speaker 1: mmmmm mmm um. But thank you, thank you for writing in.
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  Speaker 1: And then lastly, Michelle wrote, I was listening to the
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  Speaker 1: fiction episode. It happens to be December two and Nana
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  Speaker 1: Ramo is over National Novel Writing Month. But I had
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  Speaker 1: to write in when you mentioned my favorite event of
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  Speaker 1: the year. I'm a Municipal Liaison mL for National Novel
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  Speaker 1: Writing Month, which is a fancy name for a regional
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  Speaker 1: volunteer who organizes the event locally. There are many mls
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  Speaker 1: all around the world making NANO fun and providing support
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  Speaker 1: to local writers. Shout out to my fellow mls. Nana
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  Speaker 1: Raimo is a writing event that started as a local
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  Speaker 1: thing in one place that spread all over the World's
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  Speaker 1: fantastic and helps writers develop a daily writing habit. The
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  Speaker 1: official goal is to start a new novel November one,
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  Speaker 1: and then write fifty words of that novel during November. However,
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  Speaker 1: this isn't a hard and fast rule. NANO rebels are encouraged.
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  Speaker 1: I've been a rebel many times. Some examples are continuing
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  Speaker 1: in existing project, editing a project, writing short stories, poems,
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  Speaker 1: or even art. Our region has had artists participate and
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  Speaker 1: we decided a drawing was worth a thousand words. Winning
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  Speaker 1: isn't about competing against others. It's competing against yourself and
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  Speaker 1: all the things that prevent you from writing. It's about
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  Speaker 1: developing a habit of writing every day, and it's about
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  Speaker 1: the community support, the camaraderie, the friendships. For myself, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't win this year, but that's okay. Sometimes life and
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  Speaker 1: truths and you must be kind to yourself. For those
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  Speaker 1: who participated this year, no matter how many words you
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  Speaker 1: wrote or didn't write, you are amazing. You wrote, you
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  Speaker 1: created words that didn't exist before, and you can write
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  Speaker 1: all year round. The Nano Reimo website even has a
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  Speaker 1: feature to set your own personal goals anytime. You don't
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  Speaker 1: have to wait for next November. So keep growing, all
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: you rhemos. The world needs your novel. I love this.
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  Speaker 1: I've always been curious about mls UM because Atlanta they'll
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  Speaker 1: do events like write in and at restaurants or even
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  Speaker 1: stores or libraries or on the train on Marta, which
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  Speaker 1: is really really cool. And I totally agree that Yanna
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  Speaker 1: Raimo is. It taught me like an invaluable lesson, which
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  Speaker 1: is to just right, like don't get hung up and
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  Speaker 1: editing every word, don't get hung up in questioning if
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  Speaker 1: it's good or bad or not, like to just do it.
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  Speaker 1: And after the first time I did do it, which
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  Speaker 1: we're now reading on this fiction thing that I wrote
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: during Anna Raymo, it changed it, like changed my perspective
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  Speaker 1: on what I could do and what I could write,
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  Speaker 1: and it made it much easier for me to be like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I feel like inting and I'm just
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  Speaker 1: gonna write and I'm not going to to stop because
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: I think it's not any good or because I need
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  Speaker 1: to edit this or there's a better way to say.
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  Speaker 1: I like to just get it on the page and
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  Speaker 1: then you can do all that stuff later, um, if
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  Speaker 1: you want to. But also I love this about Nano
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  Speaker 1: Rebels because I had my question about if people were
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  Speaker 1: cheating and you've clarified it. So thank you, thank you,
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  Speaker 1: thank you very much. UM. And yeah, I would love
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  Speaker 1: I would love to hear from any other listeners about this,
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  Speaker 1: about their novels, their experience with Nana Raimo and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: as a reminder, please please please keep writing in and
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  Speaker 1: we would love to do these more often. We love
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