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- henry: Hey guys, welcome back to the Podicy. I'm Henry Wilkinson. I'm Andrew Bosler. This is episode eleven, where we're gonna be doing a little bit of a deep dive into Ridley Scott, who a lot of you probably know from directing The Gladiator, which I know is one of the most popular films I'd say of the century. I think a lot of especially a lot of guys our age I think really gravitate towards that film. He came out with a new movie called The Dog Stars that just got released this weekend. We were thinking about going to see it. So we wanted to dive into some of his work and then we saw some of the early reviews for the Dog Stars was not very good. and we decided to go watch Coyote vs. Acme instead. So yeah, we'll we'll talk a little bit about that and then we'll like I said, talk about Ridley Scott movies, the ones that we watched throughout the week. So I think we'll we'll save what we've been watching this week for later. I guess unless did you watch anything else besides Ridley this week? Doing and yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So those are really good. I've been wa I've had on my watch list for a long time. And obviously with Dune part three coming up in December. I I I had to watch it. yeah, but I really like the I really like both of them, I'd say honestly, like pretty close. I feel like I don't know, is the is the consensus that part two is like really like a lot better than part one? Or don't people I think maybe maybe for like the general public, I think 'cause like there's a lot more people that like Dune part two. But I think from a critical standpoint they're pretty close. I'd still think people will probably lean Dune part two. Yeah, I think I would too, but I just think yeah, I don't know. I feel like I always heard that like there's it's just like a lot of setting up in in Dune and like a lot of talking and stuff, but I didn't really feel that way. I thought it was Yeah. pretty atten like your attention is always captivated and it It feels like it's it doesn't like drag at any point. yeah. So yeah, I really like I really like both of You gotta be you gotta be locked into the first movie. And I think a lot of people Yeah. I don't know. It it can be really easy to miss something and everything is so intentional and obviously it's a book too, so they already have source material for it, but so it I think it feels Like it's slow in a sense that there's a lot of dialogue and there's not as much action as like the second one. Right. But it's also fast paced and just they literally drop you right into the world right away and are like using language that you're not familiar with. And yeah. I I ended up liking that movie a lot more on second watch. the first one? Yeah. Yeah. The second one I've only seen one and it's a five star. I love that movie. Yeah, the the first one has grown on me a ton. Yeah. I think it's kinda grown up. I like I think it's just aged really well too in general. I think people as time goes on and maybe as now people are kind of preparing for Dune Three. I think people are enjoying it more. And from what I've heard, I haven't done this yet, but like after watching the second one, they say that that makes the first one better. Like you watch the second one and go back and watch the first one. But yeah. I don't know. For me, outside of Ridley and the Coyote vs Ackman movie, I watched the sheep detective. I saw that. You weren't a fan. Yeah, I don't know. It was just kind of it was super cheesy and corny and stupid and like that was what it was and that was what its intention was. So I'm not trying to knock it a ton, but like there's a couple of characters that are just over the top where I think if you don't buy into them as an audience, it just doesn't work. And like one of the characters in specific I just did not buy into. Sure. and I was watching it with Addison and we were both kinda on the same page, but then the last half an hour was actually pretty solid. Okay. And I think kind of landed landed the plane a little bit. And like she ended up tearing up at the end. ended up really enjoying it. So like I think I said in my review, like the last thirty minutes saved it from being kind of a waste, so they they find a way to I don't know, pull out your s at your heart strings a little bit. That's good. Without it like being I mean, I hate when people say like a movie's emotionally manipulative, like where they just It's the point of all movies. They yeah. Where they're they just these people died just 'cause they wanted to make you emotional or like the dog died or something like that. But I think they did a good job in this movie, so I gave it a two and a half. I don't know. I I I don't know if it's probably more of a I don't know. Actually no, two and a half. That's where at with it. Yeah, dude. That's where I'm at with it. It's like a perfectly okay movie. Okay. Like Addison. What would you say, Addison? you think it's lower? Yell yell, Addison. Okay, three and a half from Addison. So But I don't know, I think there it was a twenty twenty six release that I've been wanting to watch for a while. Mm-hmm. So I mean I'm glad I I'm glad I ended up watching it. It's got like a 3.8 on Letterboxd, so people are really liking it. Yeah. But I remember when I first saw like the trailer for it, I'm like, there could not be a stupider movie. And then I saw everyone really liking it. I'm like, And everyone's like, yeah, the trailer, everything sucked. But the movie's actually good, trust. And it was it was fine. I'm I'm excited to watch it because I've been wanting to watch it for Yeah. But I don't know. Just in general, there's a lot of twenty twenty six movies that I wanna get to. Mm-hmm. Like I really wanna watch Backrooms. Yeah. Which I guess this is kind of movie news stuff, but it's coming on Max in September, so I think like the twenty fifth or something like that. Nice. It's I don't know, it's a young filmmaker and like I've listened to him talk a lot too and he j he sounds like a really smart guy. And he was doing some promo stuff for the It Ends movie. yeah. Which I don't know what the status is on how big of a release it's getting, but it's it came out this weekend. Probably at like just some art house theaters and stuff. But I don't know, and the letterbox earnings keeps going down for it and I'm like Dang. It's like a three point three now. It was like a three point seven when a handcon released, so but then every once in a while I see someone with like a four and a half star review. backrooms or it ends. It ends. okay. Yeah. but yeah, back to backrooms. Kane Parsons, the director, he was like doing press stuff for that movie to like try and help promote it, just 'cause the guy that made that movie's like twenty and he's like a college student, so Yeah, I j I just think it's cool to see young filmmakers doing that. But yeah. Yeah, backrooms I really want to check out. That's like one of the bigger twenty twenty six ones I haven't seen, I feel like. but yeah, let's let's get into movie news for this last week. Yeah. I'll kinda jump with the young filmmaker topic. this isn't a young filmmaker, but Knight Shyamalan, the director, he does the sixth the sixth sense, signs, the village. Unbreakable split. He's got he's got kind of an interesting filmography where he's I guess kind of similar to Ridley Sky, which we'll talk about, but he's got a lot of films that are kind of have like a cult following to them, and then he's got a lot that just seem to miss the mark. He's someone I really want to dive into, but Sixth Sense I really like and Signs I really like. But he just came out and said that he is starting a YouTube channel. Really? And he's I don't know his age, but he's gotta be in his fifties probably. But I d I just think it's inch interesting to see Like he's kind of buying into how the younger filmmakers created their audiences. Like Kane Parsons and Curry Barker. Parsons with backrooms and Barker with obsession. and even like Jordan Peel to an extent. Like a lot of those guys they built their audience on like YouTube and social media and stuff. So it's interesting to see a filmmaker like Knight. Hop on YouTube as like a older filmmaker to try and draw that same crowd. yeah, I don't know. We'll see what he ends up posting. Yeah, that's cool. I I think yeah, what you just said, a lot of newer filmmakers probably will go that route. I just saw or I've been following two filmmakers that are one's from Chipua. And she's making movie. I think I saw it. Have you seen that? I think so. I've seen that on social media. I've seen a couple of like local stuff. Like if you're in the area. And Which is really cool. There's a Hallmark movie being shot in Chippua. Really? Yeah, like a Christmas Dang movie. Chippewa Valley represents Dude, I know. Duluth is like a hot spot for like making movies too. Really? Yeah. but the other one I d well, I just mean like I mean I've seen it only from social media and I think that's a really big tool for like yeah raising money too. The other one I was gonna say is there's this guy who's making a D B Cooper movie called called I Have a Bomb. And he's like he's like raising money and he's got like these it's I thought it was cool and like kinda funny how he does it. Like there's these tiers of like donations that you can like give and like certain donations will give get you something like in the credits or like, you know, I'm sure that happens a lot. But one of them was like like directive creativity or like so like you get some sort of input in the movie. And I was like, I just think that was funny. It was like it was like 20 grand or something. I was like, dang, that's kinda sick. But he's like I saw one of his posts he was saying it's like a lot of money for like DB Cooper like jumps out of a plane or whatever. Like that's the story. And he's like actually gonna like I don't know if it's I don't know if I can't I can't remember, but I think it's him directing and he's D V Cooper in the movie. Okay. So I think he's gonna like j actually legit jump out of the plane. But I don't know. But yeah, just to your point, social media and like YouTube and that type of stuff is definitely gonna become I think it's just gonna become more prominent and like gaining audience and gaining traction for a like a film. I mean you can put on free for free on YouTube. That was what Barker was gonna do with Yeah, he almost said that with obsession, which is crazy. Yeah. Yeah, I think I don't know, I think people just like seeing the authentic side to the filmmakers. And like we've talked about a ton, like just the behind the scenes stuff of movies that like Christopher Nolan and Kugler have shown, like they don't have their audience on or they didn't gain their audience from YouTube or social media, but like that has been a lot of the marketing for Yeah, definitely. Yeah, people definitely want to see that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, what do you got? Well I was just gonna say box office from Coyote vs Acme. so I think like Thursday night, which is like, you know, debut night or whatever, like it does whatever whatever number, but then obviously opening weekend is kind of what people count. I think it was saying around fifteen million. Yep. Which is was I mean good. I thought yeah, I was I was thinking around like ten. Yeah. Or that would that is what my guess would have been. So I'm glad it is doing better and I think that's kind of testament to the fans and like a lot of people were like wanting to go see it because of kinda how it was made and like why it was made and I mean it was made basically because of the fans, so I think that definitely helps it. And obviously people just like Looney Tunes and Yeah. John Cena is funny and Yeah. So I think that too obviously and but yeah I mean it's doing good and then brand new day is like still doing crazy crazy numbers so it's at number one again for fourth straight weekend which is yeah that's like not normal yeah no and it did like forty million yeah domestically forty million so that's pretty crazy but yeah then I mean Dogstars kind of Tanked. Yeah. It didn't do great. And I wanna say the Dogstars had like a huge budget too. yeah. Like opening night I I saw it was like less than a million. A hundred and ten million dollar budget. That's crazy. That's yeah, it's gonna lose lose a lot. I mean it it's I don't know. I w I wanna watch it. I don't know if I'll go see it in theaters. Yeah. We'll see. Every once in a while I see someone on social media be like, you know, it's actually a good movie, I don't get why. Yeah. And then I kinda get bought into it. But Yeah. I think I'll go see it in theaters. Yeah. But I mean Yeah, I don't know. But I think I mean, it seemed like Scott like wasn't really like invested in the movie. Like he didn't really seem to like care about it a lot. He said he he said he didn't even read the So I mean I mean that kinda gives you. Yeah. And like I was telling you, like the trailer didn't do a whole lot for me. Like there wasn't really a ton of promotional stuff. Yeah. Like there was only two movie posters made for like I feel like when there's like a big movie there's like a bunch of different ones that are being posted like every single day. Like new poster for This movie. Yeah, and you get excited. Yeah. Well yeah. What are you gonna say? Well, I just I don't know. I don't know if there was just a lack of investment because I didn't feel good about it or yeah. I don't know. Because when you texted me that, like it was like it wasn't doing good and like you like Scott didn't even read the book. Yeah. And I was just thinking because I remember seeing the trailer like a while ago. Probably like when we went to a movie like in Duluth, like Maybe like Project Hail Mary time. what's up, Bob? But I remember being so excited when I saw the first trailer. Yeah. Like this looks sick, like the story looks sick. Kinda like, you know, I don't know, good cast. Yeah. And then that was it. Like I don't think I saw a different trailer. Yeah. And it wasn't like you said, I wasn't being pushed and maybe that was because the studio didn't feel good, but Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. I'm definitely gonna see it, but yeah, I mean I I'll watch it. I don't have a big urge to see it. Yeah. Which kind of sucks. 'Cause I like most of Ridley Scott's movies. Yeah. Or the mul the majority of the ones I've seen. I guess I haven't seen a ton. Yeah, it does it is a like I made right when twenty twenty six started, I made like a twenty twenty six most anticipated list or whatever and had like the Odyssey and Dune Part three. Hunger Games The Spielberg movie, Disclosure Day. And like I was like trying to rank but it gets hard after a while. But like I know I had like my top five, but then it was like the dog stars. Like since the start of the year, I had like probably just outside the top five of being like one of my more anticipated movies of the year. Yeah. Just because of Ridley Scott and seeing who was in the movie and hearing that like it was a relatively good book it seemed like people liked the book. it just sounded like it had some potential. and yeah, not gonna judge it after not or before seeing it. but it doesn't it doesn't seem like a big hit like some of the other movies we've got this series. Yeah, and you definitely you would hear about it if yeah if it was or like if it was really good, but Yeah. And yeah the like first the opening for the other thing. They like didn't do like any early screening stuff, hardly at all. Which usually is kind of an indication that they're not feeling the best about it. 'Cause then that thirty percent rotten tomatoes came out like the day before opening weekend and then I think that kinda turned everyone off from it. Like if that hadn't come out, I betcha does it's not it's not like it's gonna go crazy, but more people would have seen it. Yeah, I'm sure more people would have seen it. But yeah. In general I'm not a Rotten Tomatoes guy. Yeah, I'm sure. So But still that's kind of an alarming number to have. But yeah. Insidious. Did you see anything about that? I didn't. Yeah, I just I I don't know. I guess I saw people logging it. Yeah. Kind of throughout. The I don't I'm gu was this it's opening weekend? I think so, yeah. I'm sure some other people I've or some people I follow probably got early screening stuff, but Yeah. I don't know, like two and a halves to threes, I think. Right. Yeah. And I'm not into the insidious stuff at all. Yeah, me neither. I just thought it was like twenty five million domestically, so Yeah. I mean that's with hor I mean, any IP really, but I feel like horror IP always gets A decent opening weekend. That's true. Godzilla Minus Zero. yeah. I I can't remember when it's I think maybe November, October, but I really want to watch the move the first one, Godzilla Minus One, which came out in twenty twenty three or four, won an Oscar for I think best editing maybe, or best visual effects, something like that. they just came out with a behind the scenes teaser for Godzilla Minus Zero. And it looks really, really good. And they added in the teaser that it's the first ever Japanese film shot for IMAX. So it seems like it's gonna be kind of a historic movie for You said November? I think it's either end of October or November. But yeah, it's I don't know, they're they're shooting it for IMAX, so they want it to be on a premium format. I'm sure we'll see other Japanese movies do the same thing in the future. Yeah. But yeah, it's the first one. I thought that was really cool. I just saw something on social media about how it's like a way bigger deal than people are realizing, I think, for yeah, for Asian cinema in general. So that's sick. A new trailer for social reckoning now that I'm like fully on board with the social network, like I really, really like social network now. Does that make me more excited for social reckoning? Probably not. Not really. Maybe less excited. I don't know. Man of Tomorrow has officially wrapped filming in theaters July ninth. You got no you got no I just think it was a dumb I kinda disagree with the idea, but I you liked Superman though, right? I think I gave it like a three. Like I thought it was okay. I think I was probably like three and a half. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Did you see I didn't even add this, but James gun announced Some show that the DC's doing now. And it just like I hadn't I hadn't even heard of it. Which I'm not a big DC guy, but like gosh. I can't even remember. But it's like I saw this one guy made a video on it. He's like, you have so many things at your disposal to do, and like you decide to make this show of these characters that Yeah, no, I I mean it was like I don't know, I was I was excited for just James Gunn the takeover after Superman and then like hearing about that he's gonna do Clayface and then it seems like Supergirl kinda Yeah derailed it. But what is it so what is it? So it's the people versus Gorilla Grod. And it's a T V show and this I don't know, this guy's like you got like you don't have a Batman in your universe. You know, you haven't done anything with like Wonder Woman or I don't know, just like you have all these other characters like the fla like you don't have the flash and there hasn't been a good live action flash. Like Yeah. So it's this T V show. Yeah. And like the I didn't I did did you see the Flash movie? No. I didn't see it, but it people like hated that movie so much. So I don't it seems like he has stuff to work with and I'd I would say I genuinely gen generally trust James Gunn. Yeah. And I s also saw that's what I was gonna say too, that they're casting for Batman. And like people on on Instagram were kinda like Like his Batman. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like who was gonna play. the DC. I saw that too. what were some of the names? Glen Powell. Yeah. Alan Richmond Reacher. People really liked Alan Richmond for Bat I don't know. I don't think he would be bat he doesn't seem like Batman to me. No. He He couldn't play a good Bruce Wayne on the I don't think so either. I thought Austin Butler could be really good. Yeah. 'Cause I feel like he has like I don't know, just like that like super calm person. Okay, but the other one was Bill Skarsgard. Yeah, I did see that. I thought I don't know. I haven't seen a ton of his stuff, but you don't like it. He doesn't look like that then. Yeah, that's true. That's part of it. But I mean, don't you think Austin Butler they they just dye his hair, give him a wig or something? Yeah, I feel like they wouldn't. I don't know. I don't know who though I don't know. I saw some other names too and I kinda Jake Jalen Hall, no. Jake Jalen Hall, no. I just I just saw like people were saying like kind of debating should it be one of those guys, like bigger, more established names, or should it just be like, you know, someone who doesn't really you know, like a some kind of someone who hasn't established himself as an actor. Yeah. And I'm kinda on that. Page, but a lot of people say like Bruce Wayne should be like a kind of like a you know rich playboy type of guy. Like he should be an established actor, but I don't know. I'm kind of sick of that. And that's why I really liked the Batman because Pattinson as Bruce Wayne is kind of like that was like the best contesting. Yeah, that's what mean. It just seems like I don't know. Bales, Bales, Bruce Wayne f to me is like too it's a little too much. I think so too. And I don't really love Ben F like as Batman. I haven't I haven't seen any of those. Kind of really I really want to watch like the Zack Snyder movies because they have like two points something letterbox. I honestly d you gotta watch Man of Steel and then I didn't love Man of Steel. you watch Man of Steel. Yeah, I guess yeah. You have you seen Batman versus Superman? Okay. I really liked that one. Did you watch the director's cut of Zack Snyder's Justice League? I don't think watched the director's cut. Four hours. I didn't watch the director's cut but I watched the Yeah. Okay. 'Cause like it's very meh. It's honestly worse than there are some people that that I follow that are Zack Snyder director cut like they love it? Yeah. really like one of their favorite movies. Really? And what else do they defend? It might be like I don't know, Batman versus Superman or something like that. Yeah, no, it's very meh and the I don't know, the Wonder Woman movie was pretty good. I remember that being okay. I haven't seen that. I mean I it just you can just tell like with all the DC movies, it's just like they're trying to catch Marvel. Like that's just what it feels like. Yeah. And like that's why I kinda like the switch to James Gunn, 'cause it feels like he's not trying to do that. Yeah. So so I'm hype for Clayface and We just went off the cusp there for a while. New teaser for the new Cliff Booth movie. Yeah, that's right. titled The Further Misadventures of Cliff Booth. That was the first time I saw that. Yeah, as the title. I don't know. yeah. I don't know if they had announced that before, but that's first first side scene of that. it's releasing an IMAX November twenty fifth. I don't know when it Getting a normal release, but I know there was some speculation. We talked a couple weeks ago how they were doing reshoots and stuff, and people were wondering if it was still gonna come out in twenty twenty six, but it sounds like it is. Yeah. But the teaser was literally just like three seconds of him driving a car and it didn't like do anything for me, I guess. But the announcement that it's gonna be twenty twenty six was exciting. Yeah, for sure. I was just talking to about this, but there was a new look of the Ray Gun movie, which is Brad Bird's new animated feature. Coming out on Netflix. They've been going back and forth on a release date. It sounds like it's gonna be December. Brad Bird's the director The Incredibles, Ratatouille, the Iron Giant. The film follows a private inspector drawn into a case involving aliens and murders, all in the alternate futuristic city. Metropia. they came out with some other stuff a while ago, but we didn't talk about it. 'cause I think it was before the pod. But like everything that I've seen looks really, really good. Yeah to me. It looks like I don't know, just a different different type of animated movie that I've seen at least. Yeah, I I only saw the one trailer, I think, but I just remember the is the animation style like a little bit different than yeah. I remember that and then I remember the cast being pretty good, right? I don't know. I don't know. I don't even know who's I swear I saw I don't know who's voice acting. I mean I'm sure he's got good people, but yeah, I I haven't seen stuff about this one for a while and yeah, I haven't really seen they haven't really released like too many video stuff. It's just been kinda like stills and but yeah, it just I don't know. Haven't really seen like an animated movie and like f futuristic Like it's kind of giving like Blade Runner. Blade Runner vibes a little bit. Sam Rockwell. Okay, that's a great voice cat. Yeah, that's right. And Scarlet Johansson. That's awesome. Sam Rockwell. I love Sam Rockwell. Ooh, and Patton Oswald. He's Remy. Okay. In in Ratatouille. Okay. Interesting. Hmm. But yeah, that I kind of forgot about that I'm really looking for. Yeah, me too. I r I remember s just seeing the trailer and then when you brought it up I like, yeah, I forgot about that. So they're saying December? Yeah, like they've thrown out a couple different dates. I don't know. Yeah, it says expected December eighteenth. Okay. You might have to hit the triple feature. Yeah. I hope it comes out in theaters. They're better. yeah, dude. Like like Wake Up Dead Man. Yeah, that's stupid. It went straight to Netflix, but like it wa we were in or no. It was over winter break, I think. So maybe maybe I would have been in Eau Claire for it, but they showed it for like a week or two. I thought it was a I thought it was in after that. I thought it was like February. I don't know. But whatever. No, it wasn't in theaters. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it it was I think I l like maybe they had it for a couple days, but That's so yeah, I we'll see what they do with that. Movie poster looks so Yeah, dude. That movie poster is really cool. So Yeah. Yeah, I'm excited for it. And I I don't know. I think I guess I've only seen The Incredibles and Ratatouille. I haven't seen the Iron Giant yet. We were just talking about that, but it's might be the best out of those three. Yeah. So he's a he's a great great director and it's not like Disney or Pixar. I mean it's with Netflix, but he's kinda able to do his own thing. So Yeah, I'm like I'm really excited. I'm just realizing I forgot I just blanked on bringing animated mov I have Ratatouille. I could have brought. And what else do I have? That might be it. Yeah, that's you got anything else for movie news? No. All right, let's get into what should we do first? L let's do Coyote vs Acme. Yeah. Spoiler free. So we went and saw it yesterday. Spoiler free, what'd you think? Thought it was good. Yeah. Bobby didn't think it was good. Or did she think it was really good? Prim didn't think it was good. Okay. Good. I thought it was good. Yeah. And I was kinda scared of that because like I was really excited for it. And I was like, this is just gonna be mid and then I'm gonna be really underwhelmed and that's exactly what happened. So kind of sucks, but it was still fun, but it was just like I don't know, it's just like too corn yet sometimes the line there's some really bad writing and yeah the script wasn't get very good and Yeah. That's I don't know. That's where I'm at too. I think I have it as a three maybe. I haven't rated it yet. But it's got like a three point nine letter box. Why? Like my friends rating's like a four point two. Yeah. I don't know if people are just letting the whole backstory like inflate it or something. I think so. Like Yeah, but you gotta just rate it off the movie. Yeah. I I re I just was thinking it was gonna be like a lot more like Looney Tunes. Yeah. Like involved in the movie. Yeah. And I guess I don't know why I was expecting that. But whatever. It was fun. Yeah. It was okay. It was yeah. Maybe it wasn't fun. It was just I don't know. I I just really wanted it to be like really good. Yeah. And I think that's just not a good mindset to go in with a movie that got shelved by a by a huge company. So maybe they actually did know something. Either way I don't know. I mean ketchup is making bank off it. Yeah. They're definitely I mean make hopefully. I think I saw they bought it for like fifty million or something. okay, maybe not. So they Probably make money. Fifteen domestic? Yeah. They'll make money then, probably. I'm sure it'll make some money globally. Yeah, I don't know. Right away I felt like they had me at the beginning. Yeah. Like and I literally just watched It was called like the fast and the furious, like the Wiley Coyote's like debut for Looney Tunes. And I'm like, yeah, they're referencing all this stuff. Like this is great. Yeah. And then and it's it's not like I wanted the whole thing to just be a remake of all of his Looney Tunes scenes. Yeah. I feel like right from the get go I'm like, yeah, this is gonna work really, really well. Yeah and then I just I felt like it lost some steam. Yeah, I'm definitely in the same boat. I f I I just feel like they They relied too much on like I it just felt like they were kinda like using the audience almost. Yeah. and just relying on like the actual just like straight Looney tunes, which is like that's fine if you're gonna do that, but then actually do that. Don't try to mix in Yeah, it was this other crap and the The assistant girl intern was making me mad. Yeah, she she was making me mad. I don't know. I The other actors in the aw in the office were making me mad. They're just terrible. And like it's kind of the same sentiment I had with the sheep detectives. Where it's just like some of those characters are so over the top. It's like if you If you don't f if you aren't bought into those characters, like it's just not gonna work as well. Yeah. Also I think the trailer just like did way too much. I don't even know if I watched the trailer. It just like had lit it was just like all of like the seemed like the best parts of the movie. yeah. So like every time I saw one of us, I was like, Well, all right, well I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Will Forte. Mm-hmm. He was like he was giving me major like Paul Rudd vibes the entire movie. Like I don't know why I was like trying to pinpoint like at the beginning of the movie, I'm like, who's he reminding me of right now? And then like halfway it clicked for me like, it's Paul Rudd. Yeah. Like his mannerisms. Yeah, that's the way he was talking. I don't know. I've I haven't like seen him in anything before. Yeah. But yeah. I mean it was I was like laughing at some scenes, like genuinely laughing. Yeah, there was some funny stuff for sure, but also like some very not funny stuff. Yeah. I wish bugs would have been in it way more. Yeah, when he It was so funny when he was in it. I don't is that even a spoiler? I don't know. shoot. No, I mean is that he's in the he's in the trailer. Okay, so then it's not, but Yeah, when he gets on the phone for the first time, I thought that was hilarious. I was laughing pretty hard at that. Yeah, I just I the trailer kinda gave me the the impression that there was like a lot more like Looney Tunes characters, but I f they were probably just using that, you know, in the trailer. And the guy who voiced them, I watched a podcast with him in it, so I was kinda thinking like he probably has like a huge like part, like, you know, there's probably a ton, but the two main Looney Tunes That they have, neither of talk. Yeah. Roadrunner and Wiley Coyote, neither of them talk. So it's kinda like Alright. Whatever. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I I didn't have super high expectations, but I don't know. I was expecting like a like a good three and a half. I know, maybe. Like quality like a quality three and a half movie. Very good. Yeah, those Those can't go overlooked for me. I don't know if I had like really high expectations. I think I was just really excited. Yeah. Like I just I just was totally bought into like the the fans like essentially bringing it back from the dead and like demanding it get released. Yeah. Which I think is still a cool part. But Yeah. I mean, obviously didn't they didn't release it for no reason, I guess, Warner Brothers, so I don't know. I They shelved the Scooby-Doo movie with it, and I don't want to see that. I mean, that doesn't that makes me not want to see that too. Yeah, it is kind of funny. Like all this stuff about Crowdy versus Acme getting shelved and like now it's coming out and everyone's like, screw Warner Brothers. Yeah. Like no one's Hey, let's get the Scooby-Doo movie. Yeah, exactly, dude. Yeah, nobody cares. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I saw John Cena was talking to this guy that I like on Instagram who was interviewing him and I don't know. He like didn't seem that frustrated about it getting shelved. Like Yeah. I felt like there was a super big thing built up around it about these people putting a ton of time into it and it being a finished product. And like John Cena was like, you know, they're the one that's paying me the money. Like they're the ones that own it. Yeah. Like it's up to them right what they want to do with it. Like, you know, it can be frustrating, but I don't know. I think if it was like I'm sure there's frustration. Yeah. From them. But I think if it was like a re like the if all the actors were like, This is really good. Yeah. Like then you probably would've heard about it more. But I saw Will Forte on a podcast, like, Yeah, got shelved or whatever, like we didn't really know this was gonna happen or whatever. It's kinda like whatever and then the guy who does the voices was kinda like same deal. He's Yep, Warner Brothers shelled then like It's whatever, you know, I was doing this during that time, so it's like they d they probably don't care. They're probably getting their money either way, like Yeah. And I mean obvious obviously that's r mainly just the fans that really care. Yeah. and that's kinda why I got released. So Yeah. Which I mean in general it's doing well with the fans. Yeah, true. I mean, apparently we're just maybe not on that same boat, but I guess not. I don't know. What I already logged it as a three. I would give it a three as well. Yeah. I haven't logged it yet, but so I mean a three is like overall. I had a decent time with it. So Yeah definitely it wasn't a bad I mean, it wasn't a bad movie. It wasn't a I wouldn't even say it was a good movie. It was okay. I'd say it was okay. Yeah. Good is kind of a stretch, I think. Yeah. It's hovering right around there. Yeah. There's enough fun parts for me to be like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I don't know. Do you agree? Yeah, I mean I I like I had a fun time. Yeah, exactly. But yeah. I don't know. Maybe if I watch it at home I give it like a two or Yeah. I don't know, but and we we were like, Yeah, we're gonna do Coyote or Dog Stars Review and then Dog Stars Tanked and then we were looking at getting tickets and Literally no one had gotten tickets for this movie and were like, Okay, if we do like a spoiler free or a spoiler review of this movie, literally two. Nobody has seen it. Like unless unless we somehow just reached the need that audience. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I think that's the extent that we need to go into that. I agree. Probably. It's a movie. It is a movie. You could see it. Yeah. If you wanted to. And I mean, shout shout out to catch up in that movie. I guess. I mean, like it's it's still a cool story. I'd be interested to watch the one they did prior to this, like three years ago. Yeah, I actually started it. you did. and it was it was pretty solid actually. Okay. So Yeah, I'd like to see that in comparison to this. Yeah. But all right. We basically spent our week watching Ridley Scott films and he's he's the director, most famously known for Gladiator. but he he's had a he's had a really good career in filmmaking. He's kind of been notably as of lately very, very hit or miss. seems to be missing recently. Yeah. But when he is when he's at his peaks it's It's pretty good. Yeah. Very good. So what so what did you watch? So I watched I in the order that I watched them, I watched Blade Runner. Which I had seen Blade Runner twenty forty nine without watching the original Blade Runner. So watching Blade Runner for the first time was a lot of fun. Watch Blade Runner, The Martian, which was a rewatch, Kingdom of Heaven, Thelma and Luis, Gladiator, which is a rewatch. Yeah, that's what I watch for recently. I watched The Duelists, Kingdom of Heaven, Blackhawk Down, The Last Duel. All first time watches. Yeah, I I had seen like or I've seen I saw Blackhawk Down a very long time ago. Like super long, like maybe eighth grade or something. So Last night I watched Alien too. I just didn't log it on Letterboxd. So I didn't say it, but yeah, I watched Alien. When did the doelist come out? Sh this is his first movie, so Alright, so why don't let's let's go in release order for Hidley. Yeah, good idea. so you watched the duelists. Yeah, so and let me pull up the Fencing is a science. Loving is a passion. Dueling is an obsession. In eighteen hundred, as Napoleon rises to power in France, a rivalry erupts between Armand Armand and Gabriel II, lieutenants in the French army, over a perceived insult. For over a decade they engaged in a series of duels amidst larger conflicts, including the failed French invasion of Russia in eighteen twelve and shifts in the political and social systems of Europe. It's got a three point nine on letterboxed. I gave it a three and a half. so this is nineteen seventy seven and it's really Scott's first like not a short film, like feature film. Yep. The poster is so sick. Yeah, the poster is sick. That's like what made me want to watch it. Yeah. but basically Spoiler free, or just kinda overall kind of plot of the movie. Armand essentially is this guy who is obsessed with dueling. and like when in that era, if if you had like a problem with someone, even if they're like they're on the same side, like they're both in the French army. So like as a like a gentleman, like you would just duel. Yeah. Which is kind of sick. Like to the death. Like you i i which would like makes no sense, but like You could literally just have an argument and then just be like, Let's go duel and like you can't even like say no. Like you can't be like, nah, dude, I'm alright. Like to Which is kinda like the point of this movie because Gabriel is like he's like very he's not like against it, but he doesn't really want he doesn't seek out dueling Armand. and it's the opposite. So like the movie starts out and you see Armand dueling and he's like very like rageful and like you can tell like this is his obsession and they meet and they kinda like it I think on purpose, but the movie is like kind of it's not unclear what what the reason is for like their argument. It's like one of them throws an insult at at the other and then there's like a girl in between them kind of. So it's kinda like a you know, they're kinda fighting not fighting over her, but yeah, and then so then it just kinda follows like Gabriel, what he does, and then like every once in a while in the movie, like you'll see like a cut to Armand and like what he's doing. And then like you'll see like they'll like meet in a location and then they'll duel. And like then though then like you know, they'll ten years will go by. They're like in France, like invading I don't know if it's wherever they're invading. And they meet and they have to like kinda team up and then they duel again and then the the final twenty minutes Gabriel like gets promoted and like he's got all this like military success and like he's got a huge house and like whatever. And like these guys come to find him and they're like we're like we kinda like we know Armand and like he's been looking for you. And then they have a a final duel. Yeah. So what'd you what'd you think? It's pretty sick. Like just the idea of the movie is really cool and I was reading a little bit about it and Ridley Scott is behind the camera for most of it. So which which I think is really cool. Like the shots are very beautiful and it's like a really well like thought out and really cool. Like the final shot is super sick. I can't remember where it's shot. I think it's just in France, like northern France. which is a really beautiful area. so there's just like some sick landscapes. For a film shot in seventy seven, it's it's really like the fencing scenes are really cool or like the the dueling scenes are really cool. Like they're very it reminded me a lot of like Star Wars. Like it's very like that era of like lightsaber battles. Mm-hmm. which I thought I thought they were they were really good too for a like I said, for a film in seventy seven, which is pretty crazy. But I just like the way Scott kinda like I like the shots and like how he how he captured them, I guess. Yeah. They're really cool. Yeah. Yeah. I just I just looked it looked it up and it looks pretty sick. Yeah. It looks like three and a half I could definitely bump it up. I just like there's some parts where it just like feels a little slow and yeah. Yeah. All right, so that that's his first that's his first feature is the Duelist. And then he goes on to make Alien, which is up there as probably one of the more influential sci fi movies. one of the more highly regarded ones. I think for maybe our generation of casual movie watchers, it's not as recognized, but in the film community, it's like very, very highly regarded. It's got a four point two on letterboxed. If you were to look up like best sci-fi movies of all time, this would definitely be on there. It's got Shigorney Weaver in there. she's kind of the main character of the movie. She's really good, but the synopsis is in space no one can hear you scream. During its return to the Earth, commercial space spaceship, no stromo, intercepts a distress signal from a distant planet. When a three-member team of the crew discovers a chamber containing thousands of eggs on the planet, a creature inside one of the eggs attacks an explorer. The entire crew is unaware of the impending nightmare set to descend upon them when the alien parasite planted inside its unfortunate host is birthed. I haven't seen the thing fully, like start to finish. Yeah. But my brother and dad We're watching that like a long time ago. Nice. And I had caught glimpses of it. Like this was kind of giving me like the same vibes of like this was seventy-nine, I think the thing is eighty-two. Mm-hmm. And just the like visual effects that are used. It's kind of kind of similar. Like I can't remember exactly what the thing used, but like they use like melted gum or something like that. And I don't know if they use the exact same stuff in Alien, but it was just giving off a lot of the same vibes and visuals. And the same thing goes with the next Ridley Scott film I'm gonna talk about. But I have some problems with like older sci fi movies and like the visuals. Talked about Star Wars before. the original Terminator was a movie that like conceptually worked really well for me, but visually I just like it's probably like I don't know, like a four and a half maybe if I could buy into the visuals. I think I gave it a three and a half. But like Alien, like looks really good to me. And like I c I was able to fully buy into it. it's not like a traditional horror movie. Like it's similar to like the thing where it's just like constant like suspense and tension and you know, there's this this creature that's in the spaceship kind of like there's always that sense of like you don't know what's going on, but like you're also like super curious about it. And like you you're waiting for it to pop up on screen and you're always like trying to look in the corner of a screen and find it. And then as soon as you like kind of relax, it just like comes out of nowhere and it's really cool. Yeah, I I really enjoyed my time with it. I don't know what I'd give it. It's probably like a four or four and a half, but I really, really loved it. It's been something on my watch list for a long time. especially 'cause a lot of the people I follow it, it's got like a like a four point five among my friends. So yeah, it's I'm really glad I got to watch this a while ago 'cause I wanted one of my one of the like I don't know, I don't make a bingo card, but I said my twenty twenty six bingo card is to watch older movies and more foreign foreign movies. Yeah. And I texted my dad a while ago, like when I was still in college and was like, What are your favorite movies from like the seventies through the nineties basically? And like this is at the top of his list. So I was really excited to finally watch it. Yeah, and for this to be his second feature film is like insane. But yeah, so then he's six with Sci Fi and he does Blade Runner. Which has Harrison Ford in it as the lead. How many years after Alien is Blade Runner? Three years. This is nineteen eighty two. Man has made his match, now it's his problem. In the smog choked dystopian Los Angeles of twenty nineteen, Blade Runner Rick Deckard is called out of retirement to terminate a quartet of replicants who have escaped to Earth seeking their creator for a way to extend their short life spans. So Like I said earlier, I've seen Blade Runner twenty forty nine. I watched it a couple years ago though, and I like kinda fell asleep halfway through. I was watching it with a buddy, and then I like wake up and I'm like, what's going on? And that that movie's like super atmospheric. but like for this being an eighty two, like it looked incredible. And I kinda had some reservations 'cause I'm like, It's like dystopian society, like neon lit thing, but it's from the eighties. My hopes aren't super high because I don't fully like Star Wars, but like this looked so good. It it looked insane. Harrison Ford, this might be my favorite Harrison Ford role. he kind of carries this movie. And he's kind of yeah. Yep. This is your favorite Harrison Ford rule? yeah. See that's right here? I do. You see that? You're t really? Okay. Yeah. Wow. It's geez, yeah, yeah. I I haven't seen it so I can't say anything. Yeah, it's basically these like the replicants are robots, basically, like they're not actual humans and Harrison Ford is hunting them down and it like doesn't it like gives you a little bit of info at the beginning but then it like does no hand holding throughout the entire movie. like you kind of don't know what's going on. You just see Harrison Ford like moving throughout this like neon lit city. And the entire movie is like dark. So like you're just you're getting the lighting and you're getting like the like the reflection of the rain off the blacktop with like the neon lights being on the blacktop. And then all of a sudden He just starts like chasing this person down. You're like, what's going on? And then you're yeah, he's like hunting these replicants, is what they're called. But then like the ending is like one of the best endings I've ever seen. Really like it's the last like the last half an hour is so good, but then it gets better like the last 10 minutes, and like the last scene, you're just kinda like, what just happened? I've been thinking about it since I watched Dang, okay. Yeah, it's it's very, very good. And this is more like Alien was kind of kinda like one of those movies that is like shot in like one space. Really like most of the time you're s spending time in the ship with the characters where here I mean you're on or you're it's supposed to be Los Angeles in twenty nineteen. like there's a lot more action and a lot more like upbeat scenes, where I feel like he's kind of broadening his style as a filmmaker, like even just from alien to this. but yeah, Blade Runner is yeah, I gotta watch that. Harrison's Ford's best. Yeah, it might be. Wow. Yeah, I gotta I'll have to watch that this week. All right, it's me again. It's Thelma Thelma and Luis. it is. in nineteen ninety ninety one. So he did three movies in between there. Legend, Someone to Watch Over Me, and Black Rain. And then in nineteen ninety one he comes out with Thelm and Luis. somebody said get a life, so they did. Taking a break from their dreary lives. Close friends Thelma and Luis embark on a short weekend trip that ends in unforeseen, incriminating circumstances. As fugitives, both women rediscover the strength of their bond and their newfound resilience. Suzanne Sarendon and Gina Davis are the two leads, and they really kind of carry this movie. they have really great great chemistry together. Basically, they're just two wives that. Aren't super happy at home with their husbands and they're kind of tied down, I guess, and they plan on going on this weekend trip together and kind of letting loose and having fun together. But then there are some events that transpire where they end up being on the run from the cops and it kind of takes a shift. And you can see like Basically at the beginning one of the characters is kind of like the alpha and being like like really trying to get the other girl to come out of her shell and then as the movie keeps going and then when they like actually start to become or I guess once they are like criminals then like both of their roles switch kind of and I think the actresses just make that switch really seamlessly and it's like one of the best looking movies I've seen. Hans Zimmer does the score, so the score is really good. it's got a really, really good cast. It's got those two girls and then Harvey, Keitel, Michael Madsen, who they're in like a bunch of Tarantino movies, like they're both in Reservoir Dogs. Okay. and then a young Brad Pitts in there. And he he's like just like this young broke hitchhiker that just kind of joins the journey halfway through. And yeah, I think it was like one of the actresses advocated for him to be in the movie and like he hadn't been a ton at that point. And this was like one of the movies that kind of springboarded him into getting bigger roles, like especially like in the nineties with like seven and fight club. So but yeah, this one and I hadn't really heard a ton about it, but it has a four point two on letterbox. So like people really, really like this movie too. and I had a lot of fun with it. Texted my mom and dad 'cause it kinda seems like something they both like, but like definitely my mom, my dad's like, No, I actually haven't seen that one and then like a couple minutes later my mom texted back in all caps like, Yes, I love this movie. So I saw McConaughey was doing Criterion Closet. yeah. And he has and he was yeah, he was talking about how like film school. Yeah, when he was younger he like he would go to like the normal theater and all these other people like, you gotta go to the art house. He's like Well, why I like watching the movies that I watch. And like, Well, because those movies suck. Like you need to watch this, this, and this and he just he stuck to his yeah, his guns, but yeah, that was I literally just saw that today too. Yeah, Fo Thomas Luis is is really good. It's like well, chronologically I guess, but in the order that I watched them, like I was kinda getting like medieval stuff with like Kingdom of Heaven and Gladiator, like swords, and then like really just a ton of sci fi 'cause it was the Martian Ale or the Martian and Blade Runner. And so this was like something there. This was something totally different. Yeah, nice. And I wasn't sure how he's gonna like it, but I loved it. And now I think it's gladiator for us, which is Yeah, I w I I was asking my dad about just if he had seen any of the other Ridley Scott films. Mm-hmm. And he the he has seen The Conquest of Paradise. Yeah. Which is Columbus, and he said that was not very good. And then White Squall, he said he's seen two. what do you have to say about that one? He said it was okay too. He said it was pretty good. But I feel like there was one more he saw. Maybe it's it's probably later. It's down. I feel like he did it was legend. He said legend was with Tom Cruise. Yeah. Yeah. He said Legend was pretty good. And Tim Curry, Rest in Peace. Yeah. Movie News forgot Tim Curry. Tim Curry, Dolly Parton. and then the Ooh, Optimus Bryant. Yeah. What's his name? I don't know. Can't remember. Yeah. Like back to back to back to Yeah, crazy. American Gangster, that's the other one my dad was like, You gotta watch that. I didn't get to that one. I r I wanted to watch that too. yeah, but so it's Gladiator. Yeah, which I feel like is probably for like the newer generation, like is most most well known, is most popular definitely. Especially with the second one that came out. Like I feel like that definitely got people to revisit the first one or got people to watch the first one for the first time. But yeah, so Gladiator, What We Do in Life echoes in eternity. After the death of Emperor Marcus Aurelius, his devious son takes power and demotes Maximus, one of Rome's most capable generals, who Marcus preferred. Eventually Maximus is forced to become a gladiator and battle to the death against other men for the amusement of paying audiences. So Russell Crowe and Joaquin Phoenix are kind of at the helm here. They really carry this movie, I think. I know Crow got the Oscar, but like I I think Walking Phoenix his performance was my biggest takeaway from the movie. Yeah. Yeah, I d I don't know. And I so I watched this like a year and a half ago probably with my roommates and I didn't really like it. I gave it like a two and a half and then I think I unrated it. But yeah, th now this time I don't know. It just all clicked for me and I gave it a four stars. Yeah. I really, really liked it. it kinda has like everything I want in a movie, and the more that I watch movies, I think the more that I'm drawn towards like the big scale, like a ton of extras, battle scenes, like medieval stuff with like horses and swords. Yeah, just all that stuff is just super sick. Yeah, and this is kind of the first time that Ridley does does a movie to this kind of scope and scale, I think. and yeah, he he definitely delivers. Howby when was when was the last time you watched Gladiator? I'd say probably about two years ago. Okay. I wanted to rewatch it but I just never got to it. Yeah. This this past week. But it's one of my favorite movies. I think it's like it's Of all time. I think it's like six on my top a hundred. Really? Okay. So this is Yeah. This is I've yeah, I yeah, I don't know. I just it's probably one of the first movies I watched that kinda like got me into watching movies more. Yeah. And I feel like it's probably one of the first movies I watched that was like like a really like kind of critically acclaimed movie too. You know, like that people kind of agree that is like really one of the, you know, best movies or It's up there for sure. I think a lot of people say. and my dad would always say, like, it's one of it's I think it's my my dad's favorite movie ever. And he just like loves the plot. yeah. He always talks about the plot and how good the plot is. Which I I think so too. Just like the whole revealing of Russell Crowe being Maximus is a super cool scene and like Yeah, I don't know. I also read I also watched it along like I watched it and then I read Meditations, which is Marcus Aurelius, like the real emperor. Like he's it's like a very famous book, like it's like his journal, essentially. which just talks about like how you should live life and it's like very very big book in like in stoic stoicism. Bob Yeah. but then I think that kinda just made me like want to watch it even more, even though he's not he's only in the start. Yeah. And that's not really like him, obviously. Like it doesn't. But I think it's just another thing that draws people to the movie a little bit, just like that era of kind of like what he's talking about. yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I I really like Marcus's character though, I think. He plays a very important role in the story. Like you see his his passion for having like he he could kind of foresee like the different paths that Rome could go on like under certain types of leadership and he knew that Maximus was the type of leader that Rome needed. and he just he kind of plays like a gentle giant in a sense of you never see him being like super physically imposing, but you just you know that he's a super wise guy and he understands He really understands the character of Commodus and Maximus really, really well. And yeah, and he knows He knows what ends up happening in the movie essentially because Commodus ends up being the emperor. So Yeah, I don't I don't know why I'm I just I don't think I was fully locked in the first time I watched it. Yeah. 'Cause yeah, just the story is really, really great. It's really, really great. Yeah. I love Russell Crowe in it too. Yeah. Yeah, I mean this I think he He won Best Actor for this this one, Best Picture, Best Actor, Costume Design, Sound and Visual Effects. So five wins. Got nominated for twelve. Yeah, a lot a lot of people consider this Ridley's best film. It seems like you probably do. Yeah, I think Kingdom of Heaven's pretty close. Yeah, I I I would still take Gladio Gladiator, but I think it's right there. Yeah. All right. Blackhawk Down is he makes Hannibal in two thousand one and then also Blackhawk down in two thousand one. That's crazy. So you saw Black Hawk Down. I've I've this has been on my watch list for a while. I know Tarantino has it as it's like his like favorite movie of the the century or something. Like it's in his top twenty of the century or something. And Ridley Scott disagrees. Yeah, which is weird, but anyways. I agree with Tarantino. I mean not that high, I guess, I wouldn't say. I think I gave it a four. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I gave it a four. letterbox has a three point seven. And it looks like most people are hovering at a four too. Yeah, but when US Rangers and it and an elite Delta Force team attempt to kidnap two underlings of a Somali war Somali warlord. Their Black Hawk helicopters are shot down and the Americans suffer hedge casualties facing intense fighting from the militia on the ground. So it's basically like can't remember the name of the guy, who they're like capturing. but essentially he's like a huge warlord and he's like in Somalia he's essentially like r starving the country and like a lot of really bad crimes like and America decides to help and send troops in and these guys essentially like are planning to kidnap him and kinda I don't know negotiate or whatever the plan the plan is I guess but so it's supposed to be like a know in and out operation. they have like a base like half hour away from the city and the cast is pretty crazy too. Like there's a lot of young, really good actors. Tom Hardy's in it, Ewan McGregor's in it. Who else? The guy Ooh, the guy from Prison Break, I can't remember his name. But anyway, I think that I mean there isn't really like a lead actor, and I think that's kinda one of the main things I wrote on my review on Letterboxd is Scott kinda like there it doesn't feel like there's ever like it's about one person. It's about kind of the whole team of guys, which is pretty cool. Tom size no, never mind. From wait, Prison Break? Yeah. The show? Yeah. okay. Did you say Tom Sizemore already? who is he? He's in Saving Private Ryan. He Point Break. But yeah, no. Okay. but yeah, no, there's really a lot of good actors and I just think it does a good job of for two thousand one, there's like some really cool action scenes and like probably like one of the f first kind I feel like there's like a really a spike in like movies like this kinda after it. Like military ish, like kinda like GI movies almost. and this was this one kinda does a good job of like not it doesn't seem like the US is like the hero and it's not like it's not like rewarding like anyone's behavior or like It's not like uplifting the US for like going in and and doing this. It's like basically just like about the guys who like died and sacrificed their life and all that type of stuff. But really cool action scenes. really just like a s very simple story made kind of like blown up. And I think that's another cool thing that that Scott does too is just like takes really small stuff and then, you know, makes like a whole movie out of it. so did you say Tom Hardy? Yeah. He's like super low build on this. Dude, yeah, he's like in it for like a second. Really? He's barely in it. He must have been young. Gosh, who's the guy that Orlando Bloom. He was in this? Yeah. He's in it for like a second too. Frickin' falls out of a helicopter. really? Yeah. That's 'cause I watched Kingdom of Heaven before this and then I was like d this guy's on a hot streak. But I guess he's probably he's in it before, but yeah, so yeah. Blackhawk Down it's a great one. Jeremy Pivin, who is He's in heat and he there's a lot of heat overlap in this movie. Is there? Yeah. Who does he he play Entourage, have you ever seen Entourage? The show he's Can't remember the character's name. I've never seen it either, but I always see clips of him. He's like this is one of the suits he was he's Ari Gold. That's his name in the show. Okay. He's just like a super funny like character, but yeah, so the the cast is really good and like I said, it doesn't focus on one guy, which is pretty cool. But next is Kingdom of Heaven. Mm-hmm. Just Magstick Men, which is a three point six. I don't I've never Yeah, I hadn't heard of it. I was just listening to a podcast today that was going through Ridley Scott's entire catalog, like all thirty films. And apparently that's got that's got like a cult following to it. It's Nick Nick Cage. Yeah, I d I don't know anything about it, but yeah, it looks like it's solid entry in his filmography. But Kingdom of Heaven. I had a buddy that loved this movie that he recommended it to me a couple weeks ago and I'm like, that's perfect because I'm probably gonna go through Ridley Scott's stuff before this movie that I'm excited to go see. Not that didn't come out. Yeah. Or didn't we didn't go see. Yeah. But Kingdom of Heaven. Be without fear in the face of your enemies, safeguard the helpless, and do no wrong. After his wife dies, a blacksmith named Bellion is thrust into royalty, political intrigue, and bloody holy wars during the Crusades. I had this out of five stars right after. It's now four and a half for me. But like I I love this movie. I've got it out of five. It's I was like blown away just from the opening couple scenes of the visuals. like even before it gets into this huge war. Like just like the quieter moments in the village with You know, whether the sun's setting or like even when it's just like dark out and the sky's just blue, like it just all looks so good. and yeah, we talked about how Rotten Tomatoes isn't always indicative of the quality of a movie with the dog stars. Well, here it's not 'cause it's like a thirty nine percent or something on Rotten Tomatoes. That is crazy. What is it on Letterboxd? Three point seven. That's crazy. But there's a little bit of a discrepancy here because There's a theatrical version. sure. That is like two fifteen. And there's a director's cut that's like three hours. What? But you watched I don't know if I watched. Was it three hours? I don't know. I'm pretty sure I watched the theatrical. Okay. 'Cause I I watched the three hour version. Yeah, I guess I I have no idea if I did or but I can't remember. The general consensus is the theatrical version was not good and then the extended edition came out and people really, really liked it, so Edward Norton or Maxine. Dude, yeah. Which like you never even No, yeah, you don't on never even and they And they don't they don't tell you. Yeah, he said like for all the marketing and everything, like they never had his name attached to the movie 'cause he just wanted to stay Yeah. Mysterious and he felt like the character wouldn't worked as well if he got revealed Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I don't I don't know. I was just it's like similar to Gladiator, but it just works so much better for me for whatever reason. Yeah. I don't know, I think I think it's more visually appealing. I can see why people would like the story of Gladiator more, but like the entire time of this movie I was just like, Wow. I'd yeah. This thing looks incredible. I definitely think it's more visually appealing. Yeah. yeah, I don't know. I I wrote in my review that this is as far as like scope and scale goes and capturing landscapes, like it's it's comparable to some of the greats in my definition. Yeah, me too. I would agree with that. I think so too. I think the The scale for sure when you see like the battle scenes of all the people, like yeah, the huge catapult tower things that they made, like just really cool stuff. Yeah. Like it was it was like eerily reminiscent of like some of the Lord of the Rings battle scenes. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, especially with Orlando Bloom. Yeah. Which is something that's really hard to replicate and like not it wasn't like a beat for beat thing but like just the feeling that I was getting from watching those scenes was similar to how I felt watching some of those Lord of the Rings. Well and this is before that, right? I think no. No? Yeah, this is after all three of This is two thousand five. it's two thousand five. Okay. Yeah. but yeah I don't I think like yeah, the set pieces and everything I think really excel this movie and add to it but Like this could have been super fast paced and action packed, but like I really enjoyed like the methodical approach to this film and like the thought provoking elements of it. It's like it's super focused on like human motivation and right from wrong. Yeah. Yeah. I I was super gravitated towards that. Orlando Bloom is really, really captivating in a lead role here. He was kind of on a run in the early two thousands. Crazy run. Lord of the Rings and Pirates of the Caribbean. And like this is kind of the the only role, I guess, for me that I've seen him in like a lead role. But like he can really carry it in my opinion. Yeah, I think he was very very well cast and I think He does a great job. yeah, I think it's on par for sure with Gladiator with everything. For some I just like Gladiator a little bit better, but I think it's just I think it's right up there and I I don't know why it doesn't really get the same recognition. The only stuff I had seen about it before is literally Edward Norton or Maxine and Instagram edits. That's it. Yeah. Like I didn't I didn't e I didn't even realize like that was the same movie until like I like until I saw him in it. I was like, shoot, this is this is the one I've been seeing. And he he does yeah, like you said, just right from wrong, like I just think it's an interesting topic to tackle in like a movie that deals with religion too. Yeah. and I think it does a good job of like focusing on that instead of like it's not it's not focused like so much on like the actual religion part of it. Yeah. Like it it is but it isn't. at the same time. Yeah. And it and it and it the movie kind of, you know, does its own thing in regard to Muslims and Christianity, which I think it was it would would be really hard to do if you were making a movie about, you know, one of the the Crusades. Which I think is cool too. Yeah. I think I right after I watched I had it with a five star and then I texted you and made me want to go down a rabbit hole on the Crusades. And I think I think probably from like a purely fictional standpoint, like this is probably five stars for me. Yeah. But like there's like there's and it's just like minor stuff for me, but like just a couple of historical inaccuracies. But it's the it w I feel like some people in that instance would be like, I hate this movie now. Like that's not how I feel about it at all. And I was I texted my buddy right after him like, yeah, I really loved everything about the film, but it kinda like misrepresents this, this, and this. And he was like, Yeah, that's true. But I just looked at it fictional. Yeah. And like that's my takeaway from it too. So Yeah. I I f this might be I don't know. I it's hard to rank these. To me he's just a four and a half star merchant, apparently. 'Cause I literally have all like every single fives. Every single film I watched like this week, I actually think is a four and a half of his. I that's that's totally fair, I think. I I mean I haven't seen Alien or Blade Runner, but yeah. I yeah, I have the I don't have Gladiator logged, but I would give it a five and then I I guess that I guess Gladiator had was a four, but that could be a four and a half. I don't know. What do you have the you have the Martian as a four and half? Yeah. I love the Martian. Okay. But alright, let's let's see. What what do we have? That's after Kingdom of Heaven. Probably a big time jump. American Gangster is one that I wanted to watch but didn't get to. Prometheus is also one that I r I really want to watch. It has a three point three on letterbox, but like it looks really, really cool. And you like don't have to watch Alien before we watching it, but it's kinda like a spin off of that. Okay. And now that I've watched Alien, I'm like super curious to see what it is. but yeah, I guess next that we have that one of us has watched at least is The Martian. And I've I've just always loved the Martian. I've I've probably seen it like seven or eight times now. Dang. I watched it a ton when I was younger. Yeah. During a manned mission to Mars, astronaut Mark Watney is presumed dead after a fierce storm and left behind by his crew, but Watney has survived and finds himself stranded and alone in the hostile planet. With only limited supplies, he must draw upon his ingenuity, wit, and spirit to subsist and find a way to signal to Earth that he is alive. it's a book by Andy Weir. And so is Project Hail Mary. So it was really neat. revisiting the Martian for the first time after seeing Project Hail Mary earlier this year and like really loving it. 'Cause it kinda has like the same DNA as Project Hail Mary where you have you get your your lead guy, Matt Damon and Ryan Gosling in this instance where they're kind of stranded. you know Ryland Grace is literally like in space where Mark Watney's on Mars, but they're stranded by themselves and so they kinda have to command this story by themselves. So you really have to cast a good lead for that role and Matt Damon fits that role perfectly. And similar to Project Hail Mary, the characters of Mark Watney and Rylan Grace use a lot of like comedic elements to cope with what they're going through. And I like when movies do that because that is a way that a lot of people like cope with hard things. And I think when those situations get treated with like such seriousness, it just doesn't seem as authentic or real because I don't know, you gotta find a way to get through those moments and humor is that way for a lot of people. and this is like one of the trio or quartet of Matt Damon move like trying to bring Matt Damon home or whatever. So that was also funny to watch, like yeah bring in Matt Damon trying to get home. Yeah. but yeah, I don't know. I half expected this to age not as well for me, but I've I've I still loved it. Four and a half. At at a time when like I hadn't seen as many movies, I probably would consider this like one of my favorites when I was younger. but it was fun to rewatch. It's definitely been a couple years since I've seen it. But like the I don't know, this is kind of around that same time as like Interstellar. you know, it's to me it's not as good as Interstellar, but I see a lot of people online that are like, This is my Interstellar, like this is better, and I I think that's valid. It's a great it's a great movie. and it has it has that like similar emotional core that Interstellar has true. and I think Yeah. I think that is what propels it a little bit ahead of Alien for me. Sure. That emotional core. Yeah. Yeah, I I love it. And you haven't seen it ever, right? No. Yeah. Really, really good. Yeah, I need to watch. so right after that he makes Alien Covenant, which is Sci Fi, but also like a spin off of Prometheus and like Alien, like it's in that like same universe kind of. Mm-hmm. And this is another one that I really wanted to watch but I didn't get to watch. Yeah. it only has like a three point one or something. Yeah. But I've seen some of the visuals. It looks great. it's Michael Fassbender who's I really like. He's So is that like Alien? Is it the alien than Prometheus then this one like in order? He kind of. It's more so like Alien is kind of on its own. And then there's actually Aliens is made by James Cameron in the eighties, which is essentially like Alien Two. Okay. And then there's an Alien Three made by David Fincher. really? Which yeah, but apparently that one sucks. Because and like David Fincher has come out and said that it sucks. Okay. Cause he like didn't have any say in how to do it. whatever. But so like those are kind of their own thing. And then like Prometheus is like the start of that's like Prometheus. Alien Covenant and then like Alien Romulus came Okay. But yeah, so I kinda wanna make my way through like just that entire thing. But Alien there's some people that I follow that like I am seeing five stars and four and a half all over from people I follow. So Yeah, but then it's it's the last duel from something that one of us has watched and you just watched that. Yeah. I'm just looking at the one in between it too. It's all the money in the world. Yeah. I remember seeing something on Instagram about it. But yeah. But yeah, I watched the last duel. It was pretty good. I mean Honestly I don't know. I after like taking a day, I'm like kinda down on it a little bit. Like not down on it, but maybe just not as good as I like I thought right after I watched it. Okay. Interesting. it's just like an interesting kind of like plot to the movie, but The true story of a woman who defied a nation and made history. King Charles declares that Knight Jean De Co Decorar I don't know how to say that. Settled his disputes with a squire. Here's another name I have no idea how to say. Jacques Legris. Yeah. By challenging him to a duel. I think it was just kind of Dueled out. True. That's true. I watched the duelists and then I wa I think I did I really I was thinking about it. I was like, I need to watch Thelma and Louise and I need to watch like something other like a different vibe. Yeah, because I watched Kingdom of Heaven and then or the Duelist and then Kingdom of Heaven. Yeah. And then Blackhawk Down. So it's just like straight manly. You're getting a lot of death. I know. I needed so After watching this, I mean I it was very good, but yeah after I was like, it's kinda kinda whatever. And I think I don't know, I think I I could take it or leave it. It is yeah. It just like wasn't it's just not as good as other Ridley movies. in my opinion. Well I haven't seen it but I really wanna see it. Yeah. I th I think it looks it looks really cool to know. The shots are very cool. And just anything from I feel like I don't know, like really in like the past yeah ten years when he gets, you know, the new tech and the way he shoots the stuff is really cool. The cast is yeah pretty good too. Cast is good. Matt Damon, Adam Driver. Judy Comer who's in Twenty Eight Years Later, one of my favorite movies from last year. and I've been wanting to see yeah like more of her movies just 'cause she was a stand up for me there. Yeah. Ben Affleck. yeah, it looks interesting. Yeah, I kinda just I don't know, I was pretty tired and I wasn't in a great mood when I was watching it and I was just like So where d where do you think you land on it? I'd probably say three. Three, okay. Maybe three and a half. Okay. Yeah. Still good, but Yeah, it it looks interesting though. And it seems like kind of I don't know, from the last Really from the last decade. That's probably his most well received one. Yeah. 'cause then he makes House of Gucci, which people didn't really like. People didn't really like Napoleon. Gladiator two is kind of hit or miss among people. It's got a three point three on letterbox. I hate the story of it. I hate the story of it. Mm-hmm. I kinda liked everything else. Yeah, I don't know if I'll even watch that. It's The it just suggests something that I think ruins the point of the first movie. Right. So without spoiling anything for the second movie. I don't need to watch that. But I'm just seeing now h on his Yeah. Like future movies got Treasure Island. Yeah, okay. I What the heck? He's stealing from Matt Johnson? He said He said he'd next he was doing another alien movie. Mm-hmm. And then he I just saw an interview he was talking about that, so I have no idea what he's doing. The is it two separate movies? Yeah, but I don't I he said like what I'm doing next, but I don't even see any I don't see anything about an alien movie on here. I just see the Treasure Island movie. So I don't know. What the heck? Yeah. Maybe it'll work together. Matt Johnson and Ridley Scott team up. I mean Matt Johnson isn't even on here. On where? As anything. Yeah. Yeah. No, I I I would assume it's a different Yeah, it's gotta be a different thing. Different thing. But yeah, I don't know. Obviously Ridley's done a ton of films combined. We maybe covered less than half of his filmography still, which is kind of insane. Yeah. but he's been at it for a while. It was really fun to watch I mean a lot of his films have been just taking up my watch list. so it's fun to check some of those off. And yeah, I feel like I feel like now watching some of those older Ridley's is like springing me into other stuff. Like now I want to watch all the alien movies. Get back to a new hope, watch it again. Like now I I want to rewatch Blade Runner twenty forty nine now after seeing the original Blade Runner. How about how long has it been since you've seen the Indiana Jones? while. I watch haven't you not seen The Last Crusade? No, I think I've seen them all. Okay. When I was like eight. I thought you hadn't seen the one with Sean Connery. I don't know. I don't know. I I feel like I had to I had to. Since you've been eight? I don't know. If you liked Harrison Ford and then and like that's like that age of movies. I d I mean I I watched Raiders of the Lost Dark this summer at some point. You did? Yeah. Okay. And I like I really liked it. I d I'm not like, this is One of my favorites. Like I think the four star, but I really like it. Yeah, yeah. But I remember which I remember when I was younger, I like loved Temple of Doom. Like I loved like the opening scene of that one. Do you hate that one? No, I love it. okay, good. And I feel like I haven't seen a bunch of stuff where people like don't ride for that movie apparently as much. But Yeah. I like literally remember the opening to that scene with the little kid driving and Yeah. I would Yeah, I don't know where I would rank those. That would be tough. Yeah. But I think my favorite's probably The Last Crusade, honestly. Okay. Which I think is a kind of a hot take, but Yeah, I don't I think I think ja people are usually raiders or the Last Crusade. I I think so too. I honestly like the most recent one. Yeah, you the what's it called? The Dial of Destiny. Yeah, Dial of Destiny. I honestly thought it was good. Yeah. I I've heard some other people come out of the woodworks and talk about it. Yeah. I thought that was pretty good, honestly. Yeah. I don't yeah, overall it's it's been it's been fun. Very fun. Yeah, really, Scott. Great director. I think I'm gonna keep working through some of his stuff. Yeah, I definitely am too. We I don't know, there's not like a new release w coming up super shortly. The twenty fifth of September? Yeah. okay. But I like there's nothing really where I'm like, I want to dive into that director's stuff. Right. You know, sooner. Yeah. I think probably the closest thing is Wildwood. I want to watch all of the Leica Studios stop motion movies. Which is how many? Two? Five. really? Yeah. So it's it's Coraline. I can't remember like literally Okay, Corline, Kubo and the two strings. sure. Those are crus the Christmas one. It's not. I don't think it's That's not them? I swear they have a Christmas one. Okay, Coraline, Paranorman, The Box Trolls, Kubo and the Two Strings, and Missing Link. What am I thinking of? Are you thinking of like Klaus or something? Maybe. I don't know. I'm way off. Wow, I didn't I didn't know they had that many movies. Yeah, so that I don't know. But otherwise 'Cause I feel like when new releases come out it's like I watch something for a week to prep and then it's like I reset and have to watch something else to prep. Yeah. For the next week we're now Yeah, I feel like I might still be able to work some more Rudley Scopped stuff. Yeah, I'm definitely gonna hit Alien and Blade Runner for sure. Yeah. And I wanna watch Del and Louise as well. and I kinda wanna watch may at least one of one of them that I just think is interesting and maybe people didn't like as much. Yeah. Because I think he gets a lot of it is it is a lot of very like people are like, Yeah, he's hit or miss. Yeah, there's one I'm like, Well, maybe it's a hit for me so one from this podcast that I wanna watch the Columbus one kinda. My dad said it was terrible. He's like this is terrible That was a while ago. I feel like the Counselor. The Counselor has a two point seven on letterbox, but like Brad Pitt. This yeah, this one podcast, they like wanted to put they wanted to rank it like as their fourth best ribbon. Like and like they're dang, this cast is stacked. Yeah. And it's like it's a the ringer podcast. Like it's it's like a big podcast. Like I don't know. It's not just like these random guys from Eau Claire, Wisconsin doing podcasts. There's a lot of p I'm seeing some r high ratings. I mean Yeah. Yeah, the one guy. So there's a one and a half, a one, and then like a lot of un unrated, and then the guy from the Ringer podcast that I follow gave it a four and a half. Wait, so unrated? Does that mean you just it's so bad you won't rate it? No, or just just for whatever reason you don't rate it. I don't know. Okay. But yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Overall White Squall looks pretty good too. Yeah. But yeah, Ridley Scott, I mean, he's been doing it for a long time. It's cool that he's still making movies. Yeah, definitely. If he makes Treasure Island before Matt Johnson, dude. Dude, I just need there to be a cool Treasure Island movie. Yeah. Yeah. I guess one of them I could see really actually he would make a bank on Treasure Island. What am I talking about, bro? I don't know. He said he's like eighty eight. Is he that old? Dude. I was like, whoa. And he's talking about like Maybe dude, his final movie Treasure Island. Well how I mean, what do you need to you don't need to be young to make a movie? No, I know, but I'm just like You think he's gonna die soon? What do you think? Yeah, I'm like I don't Yeah, that's true. I don't know. I'm sure that's why he wants to make as many movies as he can. Yeah, I guess. But All right. So we kinda bounced all over this episode. But we got a short little coyote versus Acme thing. Then a Ridley Scott. This is kinda like last week where we were doing the biopics because we thought we were gonna see Tony. Yeah. And then we weren't able to see Tony. But Tony is being shown in Oak in Eau Claire now. And it's because Henry DM'd the Instagram of Mike on D. No, I th No, they put it on they sh they bought the movie from A twenty four. Even though they never responded. They saw the poticy won. They the poticy wanted, and the poticy got what they wanted, bro. That is true. We got some pull. We have some poll, dude. Let's get cocky now. Yeah. Let's demand some other movies. Yeah, what else? What else do we want? We want Lord of the Rings and we want the trilogy. All these re releases. Come on, we need a Lord of the Rings re release. My con. Yeah. That's funny. But Yeah, we're essentially in the same boat where we watched all these Ridley Scott movies to watch the dog stars. Didn't happen. Yeah. So we're kinda pivoting for next episode. In the spirit of Coyote vs. Acme and Looney Tunes. we're gonna we're gonna do a draft of our favorite animated movies. So next episode we'll draft animated movies. This is episode eleven of the Podicy. I don't know what the title of is of it is yet. True. To be determined. Ridley Scott Slash Coyote verse acne slash. I don't know. We'll see. but thanks for tuning in, guys. See ya.