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Uncanny Emergence of Collaboration: "Real growth doubles back on itself because it is messy and it is unclean." | Candid Conversation. Underdog Wisdom. | Goodpain Podcast S1E09

About This Episode

In this candid conversation, Tyler and Jeremy explore the difficult transition from the "frenzy of activity" found in denial and defiance to the quiet, transformative space of collaboration. Tyler describes this episode as the most challenging to produce, noting that the struggle to edit the conversation mirrored the internal struggle of finding a balance between personal and collective experience during a catastrophe. Using metaphors from creative projects like photography and woodworking, he illustrates how we must learn to collaborate with the "despair" and "moments of…

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